DC Comics: Evil Green Lantern Origin

[@cameronh1856]

Please cover Universe X and Paradise X. I loved the Earth X story you originally covered and would love to see you continue with it's sequel stories.

[@LuisCastillo-or1sl]

Uh oh, time to comment on every video again. “Rubs hands”

[@cameronh1856]

@@LuisCastillo-or1sl true *rubs hands*

[@marcusmoore7600]

Rubs hands..... .DO IT. JUST DO IT

[@deceptive_plays2637]

I totally agree ‼️

[@joshyogiiblaiir9194]

Rub hands

[@exilhannabal]

"He usually does the right thing. Except when he blew up a world. That wasnt the right thing" 😭😂DEAD

[@christianmontgomery6156]

Literally read this right before he said it 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tyking33]

Debatable

[@thenationaltimelyactionhou9328]

Along with 2 billion people

[@scinnyc]

John Stewart never blew up a world. He failed to stop a world from being blown up by someone else

[@keatonfallin9810]

The main premise of the ‘slippery slope’ is that once you do something once, it feels like a more normal thing to do. Just like John Stewart on Earth 3, once you kill once (or in his case incinerate) it makes it MUCH easier mentally to do it again. It’s part of the reason why there’s such a thing as repeat offenders.

[@digunder14]

yeah is more so being able to justify it once, makes it easier to do more, even if not actually reasonable or justifiable

[@Edub271]

I think it’s not a personal issue at all when it comes too the slippery slope ideal. Rather how the public sees you. People fear the red hood because at one time he was killing people. People feared Batman because they’d get the snot beat out of them. None the less everyone in Gotham knew with one was just a hospital visit and jail. The other was a death sentence

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Indeed.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

@@Edub271 Exactly.

[@keatonfallin9810]

@@Edub271 Yes... but I was more talking about the POTENTIALITY of ‘slipping down the slope’ of criminality because of one action

[@zipperman6045]

Kind of mischaracterization of the slippery slope it's more about likelyhood. I.e someone with a addictive personality in relatively mundane ways i.e overeating shouldn't gamble at all because it's incredibly likely they'd fall down the slope and be unable to stop. Same sort of idea with the Emrald Knight is after he burnt that one fella killing surely became a lot easier for him.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly!

[@PureGoldNeverCorrodes]

Well think about how often American police kill innocent civilians, slippery slope from having capital punishment and guns without background checks.

[@Watch-0w1]

Yep because you also got to see it in the victims your protecting. When they see you kill someone even if you only kill one. you still going to be a killer. If you willing to kill that mean you can kill anybody .which they're going to fear you . if they fear you they're going to hate you and they want you gone.

[@rayiskoala]

I feel like the slippery slop argument applies to those that let emotions or pride cloud their judgement.

[@parallax7789]

Or those that initially had no legitimate choice in the matter and things carried on to a point where they crossed a line they couldn’t uncross.

[@smexehcougah3]

I think it also applies to people who don't let their emotions inform your decisions. There's a big difference between listening to your feelings and letting them control you. If someone has forgotten how to listen to their feelings then they have become evil.

[@fernandomendoza4219]

I agree, the slippery slope argument is just an excuse for writers who either can't or don't want to elaborate on a character's reasoning and progression

[@JediAcolyte94]

For the slippery slope argument, I'd recommend the story of Freedon Nadd or Ulic Qel-droma between those two stories you should find your answer Rob...assuming you can find them.

[@cosmicdropout8187]

Is a book or a cómic??

[@JediAcolyte94]

@@cosmicdropout8187 Both of them appear in comics written by Kevin Anderson and Tom Veitch, however, they are difficult to find from what I've been told.

[@jacksvendsgaard2270]

Glad to see you picking up the Earth 3 comics, such a great series!

[@MarchallWhite12345]

Beyond Omega Level: Magus Beyond Omega Level: Perpetua Beyond Omega Level: Impossible Man Beyond Omega Level: Deweller-in-Darkness Beyond Omega Level: Trigon Beyond Omega Level: Highfather Beyond Omega Level: Serpent (Cul Borson) Beyond Omega Level: D'Spayre Beyond Omega Level: Griever at the End of All Things

[@AllYourPals]

and mordru

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

@@AllYourPals mordru is a beasssst

[@djyua9157]

Definitely Highfather I have so many questions about that dude

[@jamesabernethy7896]

I'll be honest, I'm commenting before I've watched this video but I just wanted comment on a fresh video. Been subscribed for a while but have only got back into your channel again, been watching lots of movie analysis vids. I do love your channel, I never had a huge exposure to actual comic books but feel I had anappreciation for their storytelling when I was exposed to it. You are a great storyteller yourself and have this energy that is so infectious. You have so much passion for what you do and really shows. Been piecing together videos from your channel an other channels to make a workout playlist. Although I won't say I was small before, I put on a bit of weight after... maybe less a battle with cancer and more a short scuffle with it. I had a lot of support in the real world but content creators like you really kept my spirits up when I was feeling rough after the chemo. Your channel will mean different things to different people and you seem to realise that, we all appreciate you in individual ways and that has to be a great compliment. Thanks for your channel.

[@kylestewart6282]

That's awesome, bro. I hope you're feeling better after your chemo.

[@ilikestuff3706]

You should totally do more videos on this series. I like it, and according to my username that means that this is the good stuff if you know what I mean.

[@ZeroMatrix5378]

I recently re-watched the injustice videos and Rob you did actually agree with the slippery slope argument at one point

[@rogeliovaldez9689]

if Eath 3 is still canonically in the anti-matter universe. this means the Weaponers (opposites of the guardians) of Quard live there, which means there were never any green lanterns, to begin with, and would lay the groundwork for the formation of the yellow lanterns of Earth 1 or Prime Earth by Sinestro's alliance with the Weaponers, and Powering is the result of interference from Volthoom. checkout Syndicate rules by Kurt Busiek i believe

[@majinriley9776]

I don’t think there’s necessarily a lack of self control with the slippery slope. I think the slope is that once you kill someone and get away with it, the temptation will always be there as an easy way out to do it again.

[@sharkyshark1]

Also with killing being easier after your first, and temptation being a thing it makes it harder to exercise your self control. So It's not that you lose it, it just becomes harder to control, but if you super human will power(like supposedly green lanterns have) then it really shouldn't be too much of an issue, although it could cause your willpower to waver, which could cause you to lose your green lantern ring. So ehhh? maybe?

[@smexehcougah3]

If you do something and get away with it your guilt should cancel out any future temptation. If it doesn't then you were bad to begin with.

[@thewistfulpigeon2747]

Yes. The idea that you redraw the line just an inch further, but in 10 years, you've gone 2 miles more than you ever would have let yourself go before.

[@torrancemoore6152]

It's kind of a question of character. The reason batman doesn't kill is because he knows himself well enough to know that it wouldn't stop with just one as opposed to superman who would if he absolutely had no other option but can still come back from it.

[@dakotatrue12]

@@sharkyshark1 yep.

[@lake_cooper]

***YO, PEOPLE*** Rob wasn't asking us to explain/define the "slippery slope" concept. He already knows what it means....and, btw, many of your attempts to explain it aren't even accurate anyway 🤐 Anyway, Rob, was asking if you believe the concept is true, or not. As for me, I'd say it depends on the person, their reason, and the necessity for the murder/act. In some cases, yes, it should be avoided, but in this case, it's reasonable to think John can kill to save his child, and then reserve back to his normal standards & principles. There are no absolutes. Circumstances vary.

[@memes3751]

Awesome comment. People In here explaining giving whole ass research papers on a slippery slope.

[@brnticuzjai860]

Every time.every damn time I'm going thru something.when I'm in a dark place and need a friend to talk to and can't get in touch with anyone.there is rob, with his awesome videos thank you so much,I don't know if I would still be here without you.

[@hamiltonhaugh3982]

Please cover forever evil. Such a good story especially for the villains character development

[@jeremiahdiaz5111]

I believe the slippery slope argument isn't about "it's not their fault" or "they can't help it". I believe says that everytime you do a bad thing it gets easier to do it the next time or to do more bad things. Yeah someone could potentially stop at any time but if they didn't really face consequences the last time they aren't as afraid this time. Or there are cases where they genuinely can't help themselves because there is something deeply wrong with them. We learned about the slippery slope in my classes as I was getting my Bachelors in Criminal Justice. But great video! Always love watching your videos

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly.

[@rockyweird]

I figure that the part of the Crime Syndicate that explains a bit of Starro kind of showed Hal Jordan leading a group of Emerald Knights. Which could explain a little how John Stewart got the Power Ring and not Hal. This series was fun to read and took it in ways I didn’t expect. Especially the later half of the story. I’m hoping we see more Crime Syndicate stories. Never know what to expect if DC comics does make more. The slippery slope argument bit more difficult to see if your for or against the idea. I’m kind of in the middle. Yeah there’s a level of self control to take in consideration. I think the idea behind it is once you done it once, depending on the experience the option is now there in the person’s mind. It’s probably why (mostly DC) some stories have heroes struggle with crossing certain lines or see how far they could take it once they do.

[@EtotheFnD]

For the love of all things funny, please Rob grace us with another RunDown episode

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Yes!!! 😁😁🤣🤣🤣

[@Drogen0]

I think the slippery slope begins to break down with certain villains, but I always assumed people like Batman knew themselves and were speaking to people like them. Heroes with tons of power or resources where killing someone for the greater good takes almost no effort compared to taking someone alive. Some heroes like Batman are probably borderline psycho-/sociopaths and know once they kill they'll go plummeting off the edge and kill again. Its the only thing that justifies not killing the villains like The Joker. He knows if he does it it's gloves off.

[@deziduzit2934]

I agree with you on the slippery slope comment. However, I also think what makes it a slippery slope is that people will tend to fall into a situation while in a situation. Being so focused on one that they don't realize when another has snuck their way in. Before you know it, you've already compromised yourself on more than one occurrence.

[@fornax4676]

I love Earth 3! The Crime Syndicate, and all the alternate versions of the characters we are used to, have really fascinating stories. Was there a mini origin for that Earth's Superwoman? I would love to see that if it exists.

[@GabrielToribioMonsta]

The mistake that you're making is that you think that killing another person is a rationale decision; it's not.It's a extreme, dreadful, emotinally fear driven decision. You have to be in a dire set of life threatening, terrifying circumstances to kill someone. You don't think that level of fear is going to be triggered. People kill out of fear of being killed. So now once you have that fear, everytime you experience fear, killing becomes the quickest option to eliminating that fear. That's the slippery slope. Also, everytime you kill another human being you are killing someone's child. No matter how evil they have become, they were innocent at one point in time. More often than not, evil influenced them. That's something that you have to live with.

[@hotdogfarmer1899]

Regarding the slippery slope argument, I believe it implies that once one kills it gets easier to do so. With that line of logic it would be easier for a hero to say, well killing would be easier action than to not. Eventually that blurs the lines, not immediately but a slow burn depending on the person/hero.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Truly.

[@kannahuynh909]

Hey Rob, would you cover some of the lesser known Pantheons in marvel comics? Like the Akua (polynesian gods). Mahalo for another awesome video Rob 🤙🏽

[@IrvinReedTemplarUp]

Slippery Slop is akin to Batman's "just one bad day" or "heroes living long enough ro become the villian". When a person surpresses their dark nature, once unleashed, it becomes dominant and extreme.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Indeed.

[@pikeyMcBarkin]

I've experienced the slippery slope in the idea of depression. So I can relate to it as something where emotionally you feel that there is no way to change yourself or your fate and you're just beholden to it now. I have also experienced that choice to be free of it. Where in some way you realize that there is choice in the world giving you freedom to escape your original mindset of being trapped in something. Choice is the key. It can also be something incredibly easy to trap yourself in there, to rob yourself of that choice. Ultimately I see both sides.

[@LeoSpecter95]

Rob you should definitely cover the earth three story!!! These are great!!!

[@dominikRS21]

I do believe in the slippery slope idea Rob. You're right solely saying if you do a bad thing then its impossible to stop isn't logical. We all do make choices, but what happens when the wrong choice becomes easier to do when you've already done it once? I never thought of it as a run away train, but more like an actual triping and falling. You can brace yourself for a fall, and in some cases you can catch yourself before you actually hit the ground. But once you realize you can survive hitting the ground you're not as scared of the fall anymore and you might do more reckless stuff cz you don't fear the fall. Not unlike twisting your ankle, once your ankle is weak its easy to twist over and over even if you are more careful with your steps. But when you have actual powers, like in the comicbooks, and you're an actual good person...how easy is it to just take a life or do bad things before you're corrupted because there's no consequence because you're powerful. That's idea on it anyway.

[@sirJinxter]

One of the best stories I read when I first came into comics was Forever evil: Arkham wars, I love it so much Edit: absolutely cover more of this Rob 🤌

[@dwaynemuth8775]

Great job! Please do a review of the 6 issues! Also a history of the characters going back to JLA 29/30! Crisis on Infinite Earths and abrupt cameo in JLA/AVENGERS! Nice context? You do an excellent job! Thanks!

[@Toriemontrel]

you've got to cover this. Im already invested.

[@theforkedman3030]

The slippery slope idea only works for people who have next to no self control or are suspectable to suggestions and I'm not talking about magic tricks.

[@CamReeds]

The slippery slope argument is really only saying. when you do something once it becomes easier to do it again and again. I agree with it, repetition breeds familiarity

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Indeed.

[@southcarolinagaming2537]

The thing about the slippery slope argument is that once you find a reason or justification for doing something like John killing the guy to protect his daughter you can always find a justification to kill someone else

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly!

[@pickedceasar1216]

Slippery slope makes perfect sense. If you can justify it once you can do it again. Think about it like an addiction once something becomes easier or feels better than you'll do almost anything to justify it

[@sunshinesooperman5110]

Rob, you should absolutely cover both Forever Evil and Grant Morrison’s Earth 3 AND the JLU animated movie, “Crisis on Two Earths.”

[@DavidMacDowellBlue]

I think the "slippery slope" is not that "some acts change you so much you lose free will" but rather "some acts change you and you are never the same--it can become much easier to kill, for example, after you kill once." You can still choose not to kill. You can absolutely refuse to kill ever again, and maintain that! But having killed (to use that example) you have become someone new. Mind you, the same can be said of acts of heroism, or romantic commitment, etc. Do something major, something different and life changing, and you are changed. But you still have free will.

[@codo820]

There's a reason slippery slope is also a fallacy but in this case there is the idea where responses to extreme actions incrementally set up a situation in which one can end up having logical sounding reasons for actions which would previously be seen as ridiculously over the top

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

It goes both way with the slippery slope argument. I'd wager though more people than less would justify killing more and more...but definitely some people might keep it exacting or rather no slippery slope but a flat plane.

[@calvinrivera353]

I follow the slippery slope idea in the sense of, the more you act a certain way(conscious or unconscious), it’s like taking a step towards a number away from zero, and the further you walk away from zero, the easier time you will have to continue walking away, with infinity in positive or negative being the pinnacle of a desired persona. But the same is true when you ‘slip’ back; take a single step back, and you’ve made it easier to take another one, and if the momentum grows too fast too soon, you would of fallen to deep back to zero or into the opposing positive or negative. (Negative and positive just representing opposing personas, not necessarily good or bad)

[@aidanlavin8211]

I missed Rob making videos about Green Lantern

[@aaronwilder2775]

Character Explained: Hero Zero (Dark Horse Comics)

[@jeffreyjohnston6023]

The Slippery Slop argument can be sum up to one factor "Consequence".

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Truly! 😁😁😁

[@lordschnitzel7961]

Beyond Omega Level: Mandrak the Dark Monitor (DC)

[@nelleywest263]

Hey Rob, the slippery slope statement simply means that when you do a wrong or bad thing for reasons that you deem are right or necessary. The next time that you have to make a decision similar to that it will be easier for you to rationalize why it needs to be done as opposed to if it should be done.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Truly.

[@adrianmartinez2451]

I think the slippery slope idea isnt just about a lack of self control. But continuing through arguements that justify something until you dont care. And it becomes a matter of not so much losing control. But not caring about the actions your taking.

[@michaeldaversa4098]

I love when you cover DC. I'm curious to see your take on Forever Evil

[@Toxked]

The "slippery slope" is referring to once you cross a line justifying ot to your self. It's easy to cross another justifying it to your self. "He was a jerk he deserved to have that happen to him... he deserved to get hurt... he needed to get hurt bad... He needs to die." Eventualy they become what they were fighting.

[@brendonreynolds3429]

The way you describe the slippery slope, you're 💯 correct. However, it's also tried that after you make the decision to do something that you normally wouldn't, it get easier to make that decision again seeing as "well, I've already done it once, what's the difference if I do it a 2nd time".

[@FAV7557]

Please do more of these origin stories they are awesome!!!

[@wise_thaat]

You should consider starting an Earth 3 "variants" series, I'd share that everywhere 👌

[@frostywarrior4649]

Honestly when it comes to the slippery slope saying, it all depends on the perspective of the person that it applies to... When a person is backed into a corner and feel like their options are limited, you will see someone make decisions that they wouldn't necessarily make with more options at their disposal...

[@kaleiyoakum9449]

This is very informative 👏.

[@steelsandport3613]

Yes, the slippery slope is good for the reason that more characters always change one big moment of this story or the main plot.

[@Jarrik73]

I've heard of most of the heavy hitters on the Crime Syndicate, but this is the first time seeing the Earth-3 Firestorm. That would be an intriguing story.

[@taylorkoenig6489]

I learned argumentative fallacies in high school. Slippery Slope being one of them. When you know all of these you can more adequately judge information that tries to change the way you think. You're instinct to disagree with slippery slope is the correct one.

[@TubezThe1]

I think when it comes to the slippery slope argument, it's more about what you will allow. Think of it like this, once you cross a line once, how many times are you going to be willing to cross it again? How many more lines will you be willing to cross? And how many times will it take you crossing that line before it just becomes your rule and go to? Plus some people know themselves well enough to know what they are and aren't capable of. I'm very much of the mindset "people make choices and the choices they make reflect on them as a person" and there's unfortunately too many examples in history and just everyday life of people that lack good judgment in their decision making. I think it's less of an immediate change and shift in who you are as a person, but more a gradual one. And in my opinion, John was kind of going to end up going down this route anyway since he decided to become a cop soooo

[@erimoros]

The concept of the slippery slope actually refers to its effect on your personality and decision making. The fact is that after you for example kill someone then you as a necessity have to build coping mechanisms in your mind to allow you to live with what you have done and go forward in life. Prior to that killing someone probably carried moral significance such that you convinced yourself that you never would do this and it’s much easier to avoid an activity absolutely so that for example it’s a line you’ll never cross well once you’ve crossed it and justified it by whatever means then doing so again is far easier than it was the first time and then far easier the next time and then the time after because the moral weight and significance you’ve attributed to it is lessened and you’ve seen that it didn’t make you an evil person or whatever it was that you used as a reason not to do whatever it is. So the slippery slope analogy just refers to the ideas that if becomes harder and harder to find moral “footing” if you will, to stop yourself the next time due to the diminished significance that is the slippery slope. In John’s case the slippery slope could be two fold the first time you justify taking or using the power for whatever reason (saving is child) then next time it’s easier and doesn’t require such a. significant motivator to justify using the power because you register that doing so last time didn’t “really” affect or change you. The second slope here is obviously in killing, similarly implying that next time will not require as significant of a motivator to kill again. That is what the slippery slope refers to it doesn’t mean that you suddenly won’t be able to stop it just means it easier every time to justify and repeat it. The simplest example is probably someone in a relationship cheating, while they have never cheated it’s easy to hold that up as something they would just never do because they don’t want to be a cheater regardless of the details of the situation that alone is enough. After they chest once though it’s impossible to use that argument because they already are a cheater so then it becomes a process of justifying and using decision. making when posed with the situation rather than automatically rejecting the idea and again it gets easier every time especially if there have been no negative ramifications such as getting caught and only positive ramifications.

[@kamaur01]

Slippery slope: Say you have never eaten pringles before and now you have the chance to eat one. It's okay but then you eat five in the pack. It's now easier to eat five so you eat more. Now you let's jump ahead and you have eaten 6 packs so far, now go through your next pack and eat only 3 pringles. The slippery slope is the constant justification for an action leading to why do I need to justify it, it's now just an action. So to your point, unless there is a conscious check on your self-control throughout the entire ordeal. When you come to some realization that maybe I shouldn't go this way all the pringles are already gone and you are left with a hollow tube of nothingness that needs to be filled with hope. (Replace pringles with Love, Life, Money, other chips, etc.)

[@torrancemoore6152]

That's a really simple yet clever explanation.

[@NoLandGod]

Actually a slippery slope pertains to more than just your actions. Its about the action you made than then effect other actions by other people. A domino effect. Like an avalanche.

[@AtenSol12]

Agree to disagree on the slippery slope. I have always disagreed with you on this. not that it matters. but there is merit to it in the same way that running a red light or a stop sign becomes easier to do the more often you do it. yes, you still have yourself control. yes you can still make judgements. but ultimately your mind adapts to fill in your understanding of your ideals, and therefore attempts to rationalize its actions quite often and will do it over again given new scenarios. you kill this one guy because your a parent and he threatened your daughter. that's extreme. and understandable. next time, you kill a thief in your neighborhood because you're a cop and your duty is to serve and protect. understandable, but there were ways to do escalate and you didn't take them. the next time, you kill a veteran with ptsd having an episode. he was a danger to those around him. had weapons. it was right to do. but you could've brought in a team to subdue him. it was right to do but no other steps were taken to prevent the worse outcome just jumped to the easiest. the next time time, someone is robbing a bank they have a fake gun. you don't know this, but he has someone hostage. why risk it? just kill him and get it over with. the next time it's a reckless driver. you give chase. you know you shouldn't try to force stop the vehicle. but this kid is driver 125 mph on main roads ignoring all semblance of danger. you force the stop. it kills him as the car flips and tumbles. it was the right thing to do to stop a danger to the community. the next time you are off duty. you see a mugger. you tell them to stop and they don't listen. you see that the subject is armed with a weapon but you don't know what kind. you shoot him. he was a danger to the people around him and just committed armed robbery. the community sees you as a hero. it was the right thing to do. in allll the above situations it was fair and right (except 1 or 2) given the circumstances to make the judgment lethal force is necessary. however, it becomes a little easier each time to make that judgment. each time it's easier to run that red light. each time it's easier to pull the trigger. the slippery slope argument isn't that you kill one time and you are gonna just kill everyone from there out. the slippery slope is just that, slippery. maybe before your first use of lethal force your chances of killing someone were 1/100. maybe after that it 5/100. maybe after the second time it's 15/100. it's not gonna happen every situation but it just get easier. this is why I think it's misapplied to batman. the argument is he has super villain criminals that do xyz and should be eliminated for the betterment of humanity. however to a limited degree murder is only justified in a realistic life/like scenario. because you know that will end that conflict right there. in a comic setting, well... Rob you've said it yourself, everything goes back to how it was eventually. captain America was a hydra agent until he wasn't. and he was Captain America again. you kill the Joker? Harley goes crazy and becomes the next. wait no there re 2 or 3 jokers. one of them replaces the main. you kill bane? he's been educating his men on venom and now another more ruthless person is in charge, and he was kept in check by banes presence. you kill penguin? black mask runs free without competition. you kill black mask? another gang rises up. you kill them or their leader. a super villain is made from your actions. the slippery slope applies to real life where we can almost* objectively judge most situations on the merit of what was happening in the moment and what potentially could've happened thereafter. in comics you can't do that. the author could just as easily kill Joker and the skies stay blue for 70 years, or he could kill the Joker and he comes back 36 hours later with a smile on his face and a creme pie in his hands. and like I said it isn't just you lose self control immediately after your initial action. it's the subsequent degradation of morals in situations where they would've prevented you from taking actions you wouldn't have otherwise. it applies just as well in drug abuse as it does murder as it does to breaking traffic laws as it does to being a corrupt politician. once you do it the first time. it becomes a little easier to justify it the second time. it becomes a little easier to justify it further a third time. maybe you don't even think about it in the moment the 4th time but you rationalize it later. you don't think about it again a 5th and 6th time. but you rationalize those, with more lose connections each time. do you even bother rationalizing and justifying it the 7th or 8th time? do you even pause to give a second thought a, "maybe I shouldnt" the 9th or 10th?.... maybe the 11th you just start making up your own justifications, "well this COULDVE happened had I not taken action."

[@Malthizar]

The Slippery Slope Analogy is 100% a thing and is on both sides of the spectrum. We only talk about the negative because we are slowly and steadily becoming worse, but it follows the same idea that we champion. Namely, "You complete a marathon/climb a mountain one step at a time." Just as you don't instantly climb a mountain, you don't instantly fall off of it. It's continual small decisions that you make throughout the day that put you in a slightly different headspace after making the decision. A guy that wakes up with his alarm clock is in a different headspace compared to that same guy who hit the snooze button. It's going to be much easier for the guy who hit the snooze to make another concession and eat an unhealthy breakfast, 'slightly' half-bake his work assignment, and skip heading to the gym.

[@the5thmemelord256]

I'm against the Slippery Slope argument. To me, it implies that people have no control over there actions and that they can't change. One of the major thing humans are known for is our ability to change. It's not like the parable of the Scorpion & The Frog, where "it's in our nature" to do certain things; it us as humans having the capacity to become greater than our actions. One moment of weakness doesn't define who we are, it's how we respond to those moments that defines us. I liked the Video Rob, and I enjoyed being able to share my thoughts with you on this topic. And for the record I think we should cover Forever Evil, and that also you should do a Beyond Omega Level video on "Mazahs".

[@Crypto2814]

The slippery slope argument isn’t about never being able to objectively assess your actions or beliefs after committing a certain action. It’s more about how after committing an action and being able to rationalize that action, that it thus becomes easier to continue rationalizing that type of action in the future. It’s almost about how people are able to lie to themselves and rationalize most actions after committing those actions. And it’s not a definitive rule, like once you do it then it will always be the case and you can never break free from that thinking.

[@jerryjack6976]

You know what's a slippery slope? Mentioning a slippery slope to Rob, cuz than he won't stop talking about the slippery slope in every video lol

[@FFmaxxx]

Right? I was just thinking he mentions this line every batman video

[@antondelacruz9362]

'Slippery slope' Do something new and it becomes easier to do it again, whether good or bad. After youve taken the first step and the world doesnt end, you have become a different person in a world of different possibilities. Do it long enough and you wont even remember who you were before that 1st time.

[@VinceZanity]

My 2 cents on the "Slippery Slope" concept, I think it might be more along the lines of maybe killing and enjoying or feeling its not as horrible as society makes it out to be. Bc we're told our whole lives killing is wrong, then you get a little order and it's killing is wrong, but sometimes necessary. Like with possible future serial killers, they start with small animals and go up from there, whereas the normal person accidently runs over a squirrel, cat, or dog they tend to feel absolutely horrible and are filled with guilt, which would most likely be the reaction of this same type of person of they kill a person be it accidentally or in self defense, and it's something they hope to never have to do again. Whereas you put that individual whole has shown signs, kills a person on accident or in self defense and they enjoyed the thrill, adrenaline, etc. whatever, they want to experience again. I know that's a ridiculously extreme turn on the topic, but it was simply for explaining my point a little better.... #SRY4THENOVEL

[@ragu8256]

To me the idea of "a slippery slope" means if you'll justify/allow yourself to do something considered bad or wrong, then you'll eventually be willing to take more. "Well, this is okay this time because...." .

[@Edub271]

I agree the slippery slope mentality is horrible. However, we’re talking about hero’s and anti-hero’s. Since these people are always in the public eye then that means they will either be looked at as hero’s or monsters. So even if they do one thing bad such as killing or something else. They will always be held at that standard

[@malaltherenegadegod]

The slippery slope? Lol you said it best, Rpb. Self control should tell a greater deal.

[@officerspider7996]

What People always forgets to see about the slippery slope is who it affects. To someone that is prone to addiction they slide down that slope and can’t stop but to someone who isn’t they can stop at the drop of a hat. It’s about the context and who is being judged. That’s how some people become junkies, it takes a good one time and then it’s sealed and the same could be connected to killing people I guess lol

[@finkelzo]

Slippery slope - When people for example, join a cult - They aren't just shoved into it, but rather initiated little by little, because the cult knows if they face the hard core big things right from the start, those people will likely run away. That's a kind of a slippery slope.

[@torrancemoore6152]

Glad to see they changed the name. Barring Johnny quick, he was the only one in the syndicate who had a lame name. And yeah, I'd like to see more of this series.

[@kcollier2192]

Regardless of if you down or up a slope, traversing it is still tricky. My advice is to try to find a level surface to walk on and avoid those downhill spirals...

[@DashXero]

Slippery Slope arguments exist because slippery slopes exist, and people slip on slopes all the time. While they may be poor form in formal debating, slippery slope arguments are correct most of the time. It's not even a matter of free will vs. determinism. People can accurately predict the behavior of other people based on whatever's easiest/cheapest to do and what will cause the most gain.

[@Nexdef]

You definitely should cover Forever Evil!!

[@WalkingDistance8]

I wouldn't say I'm "in support of" the slippery slope argument, but I do think that it makes sense. I don't think it's saying that people don't have self control. I think it's more about the idea that when you do something once, it plants a seed in your mind that it's okay to do it again, or do something worse. It doesn't necessarily mean that you will do it again, but that the likelihood goes up significantly. For example, I work out everyday. If I skip a day, I know from past experience that I'll skip more days and eventually I'll stop going altogether. It won't happen overnight, but I've already made up in my mind that it's okay to skip, so now that seed is planted. Every day that I continue to workout is a reinforcement of the idea that it's not okay to skip. I would assume the same could be said for drugs, murder, and so on. "I killed that one guy because he threatened my daughter. Who's to say this other guy won't threaten my daughter somewhere down the line, if I let him go?" tl;dr: I think the argument is more a testament to the mental gymnastics we do to justify our acts.

[@generalobiwankenobi5890]

Beyond omega level: John Constantine

[@devonroc6854]

Plz Cover the rest of the stories I love Universe 3 crime syndicate stuff! And would love to know more about it

[@Zarreth]

This actually fits in with the slippery slope topic... I am Once Again asking for you to cover Uncanny X-Force Vol 1

[@EmmanuelAniTheSchism]

The slippery slope argument it doesn't have to be one of self-control. Depending on the situation, you could pave the road to hell simply by trying to rectify a mistake

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Truly.

[@underhandedoverachiever]

Rob, please cover this whole serious. I've been hoping it continues as well.

[@franktheavocado7573]

being it just ended its run, heres hoping they do more or pop up in other titles like Ultraman just did in Suicide Squad

[@BigaloMax]

In the topic of the slippery slope , I can definitely say it is something that happens because it has happened to me. I had "friends" back in middle school That told me to shoplift for them And me being an idiot I did it a couple of times but the first time was ALOT harder then the second or third time , By the 5th time you think it's nothing And you get used to it Which funnily enough is actually when you end up getting caught because you become alot more sloppy about it Which I did get caught, They didn't call the cops but they called my parents...who kicked my ass afterwards.

[@NocioKu]

Hey Rob, I don't think you quite understand the concept of a slippery slope. It's not about being logical, it's more of a concept of conditioning. It’s an alternate phrase for Pandora’s Box like once something is out of the box it can't go back in. Most people have enough discipline to not fall into that but there are a lot of people who don’t.

[@jaebee81]

Boy does DC love their variants. They could use a TVA way more than Marvel 🤣

[@fredjenkins1546]

Hell he looks like blue marvel!

[@baloneyjusticecheezedog]

The slippery slope argument is is better used while describing arguments with many parties, and how one small change to a political policy will lead to farm more changes later one. For example. "If we let car manufactures keep making cars with Internal combustion engine, Power factories will be able to point to keep using and producing power with coal, and nobody else will have a incentive to recycle." both sides can use this argument.. Both sides can start saying once we do this one thing.. we can also do this other thing and yet another thing after that.. and now you see it, it could be a good thing.. or a bad thing.

[@baloneyjusticecheezedog]

Slippery slops are also often used by both sides on debates on Sexuality, gun control, and the environment, if you are going to use them, you simultaneous need to have way to prove they are correct, and disprove them so that you can convince people on the other side of the point you are arguing that control can be maintain when you try this. If you loose the capability to argue what will happen should you make a argument that is accused of being on slippery slope or to take advantage of a slippery slope. you not only loose the argument but make it worse since now everyone has a preconceived notion of what will happen. I highly recommend you are careful with making arguments on a slippery slope that ask people to give up anything because it causes political intrenchment.

[@PURPL35IFY]

I totally agree with the slippery slope rule

[@EVENINGWOLF666]

The way I look at the whole slippery slope thing is like this. So you have a fairly straightforward moral compass. Right is right. Wrong is wrong and that's the end of it. So far that has never been brought into question. Then a situation comes up where it is, where essentially the only way to prevent a greater wrong is to do something, less wrong. The lesser of two evils as it were. At that moment, when you compromise the absolutes of your own morality, more importantly when you JUSTIFY compromising your own morality you don't think much of it. BUT, as time goes on you start to see more and more situations where compromising that morality is a necessity. Each time you do it, it requires less and less justification and becomes easier and easier to reconcile until, one day, without even realizing you are so used to compromising your own morality that you lose site of it completely and and instead of doing what's right because it is right, you are doing what is expedient, whether or not it is right, or even necessary. At one point you mentioned the idea of someone being willing to beg , borrow steal or kill to protect their kids. How much of a leap is that to go from protecting your onw kids that way, to protecting the kids of other family members, then the kids of friends, and eventually all kids until despite your good intentions you become so enmeshed in the ides that the end justifies the means that the people you are trying to protect are as afraid of you as the people you are trying to protect them from. Yes. We can all make decisions, and we all have some sense of right or wrong, but it is so easy to lose sight of that in the face of what you are trying to do. It isn't necessarily a weakness of character, unless you consider that ALL humans share that weakness because we are ALL capable of falling into that trap. IT is just the idea that, as I said earlier, the end justifying the means overrides the idea of doing with is right and doing it for the right reason. THAT is, for me, how a slippery slope comes into play.

[@therealyoungpyro]

The slippery slope theory somewhat stands up depending on your personality & mind set. If you do something that you know is bad or that you consider to be crossing the line & like the way it makes you feel, you start to make excuses why you should do it again. It's like for men who cheat. Once they cross a certain threshold, the feeling becomes more of an addiction than anything else.

[@joshuajordan2562]

Rob so when it comes to the slippery slope argument. It’s not necessarily saying you no longer have control. The argument is after you do it one time, the next time the situation arises it’s easier for you to do. So not saying that you will have no control, but your convictions might not be a strong the next time. And the next time and the next time. So yes people do have self control, however, I think it’s more so argument about the changing of ones overall morality. I think when it comes to murder the slippery slope argument can seem nonsensical, but if you apply it to something like diets it seems more realistic.

[@sheepmc3295]

I think the slippery slope only has merit as far as if you can justify an evil act once itll be easier for you to justify it for yourself in the future, but its almost never used like that

[@paulfoote6198]

I think the slippery slope works in hero comics because it is an abuse of power and once someone starts abusing their power it is hard for them to stop and a lot of the founding of the main hero books are from a period when people were: 1. less forgiving or understanding. 2. Comics were seen as influential for children, hence the Hayes code. This is why in modern hero books like Invincible they can murder, because the morality of that universe was founded recently, not when it was considered good to torture gay people until they acted straight. It does not apply in IRL unless you factor in things like attachment issues, substance abuse and domestic violence. Then it’s less a slope and more of a cycle.

[@calvinrivera353]

The slippery slope idea is tied to the foundation of habit. The more you act a certain way, the more you reenforce a habit of being that way. With all possible ways of being having potential In you.

[@slynerdred9207]

Please cover this story the crime syndicate is one of my favorite story's I've read!

[@aaronrobert7785]

How can you not believe in the slippery slope doctrine!!?? Have you not had Pringles?? Can you truly ever stop at one?

[@zacharygroysman279]

Beyond Omega Level: Dark Multiverse Ted Kord

[@TWreckthaMonster]

Please cover this crime syndicate series Rob, tbh I’ve been leaning into Marvel and indie comics because DC has been hit or miss lately but I trust you fam lol

[@CrownMe13]

I love the Crime Syndicate