DC's YA Graphic Novels Reach Peak Cringe

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@seandoyle7307
@seandoyle7307 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie “Oh my god it’s Bruce Wong!” floored me.
@gabe_ed
@gabe_ed 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting Brunce Wang :(
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 4 жыл бұрын
@@gabe_ed >>> And his pal, _DICK Grayson...._
@mikeylambda1322
@mikeylambda1322 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Wu! Lol
@captainbucket983
@captainbucket983 4 жыл бұрын
More like Bruce Wrong
@lasura
@lasura 4 жыл бұрын
Freudian slip 😂
@exxinferis24
@exxinferis24 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the mark of untalented writer that she can only write characters like herself?
@Spookie_Dookie1978
@Spookie_Dookie1978 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jeangentry6656
@jeangentry6656 4 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@hombreg1
@hombreg1 4 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, these people are hired explicitly to write characters like themselves. That's one of the main tenets of intersectionality
@rodney2x48
@rodney2x48 4 жыл бұрын
Most YA novels are filled with that kind of self insert mentality in mind. It's literally a common thing in those types of books, which is why most of them kind of suck, but they still sell cause the point of a lot of YA novels is to give young readers a self insert fantasy story.
@KitsyX
@KitsyX 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, not necessarily... Writing has many different aspects... Descriptions, dialogue, character, style etc... Of course, the best writers will be great at it all, but you could still be pretty good at some areas and bad in others, yet still be talented... Also, many people have multiple facets of their character, so it might not be as straightforward as it might seem... And hey, the best writers often write what they know, that's not really a new thing. The more you know something, the easier to write about it. Oh well, a lot of it is subjective anyway, so maybe? lol.
@wbbooth
@wbbooth 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be fun if I took a character everyone has loved for decades and changed everything about them to resemble ME?
@gabe_ed
@gabe_ed 4 жыл бұрын
*M E*
@FunZies.
@FunZies. 4 жыл бұрын
How does one *happily* announce that they're going to 'self-insert' themselves into others' work like that? XD
@rodney2x48
@rodney2x48 4 жыл бұрын
If it's an Elseworlds type of thing, sure. They've done that for decades.
@dandare9055
@dandare9055 4 жыл бұрын
"Still a loner" - WTF? Batman was a loner and you can argue that bruce refused to 'settle down' but he NEVER EVER was a LONER. He was actually quite social and often depicted as center of attention during the parties. Not only that: his charisma and ability to make friends with other people were something that undeniably helped him with successful run on Wayne Industries.
@douglas2938
@douglas2938 4 жыл бұрын
You could argue that Batman wasn't always that much of a loner, that that aspect has only been more highlighted recently as opposed to what he was at the start. But "loners" can be extremely successful socially, they just don't take pleasure in it and are happier when they don't have to engage in such occasions.
@thelaughingman6975
@thelaughingman6975 4 жыл бұрын
He id a loner....just ignore all the Robins, Alfred, the JL, Selena, Talia, Gordon, Barbara, Ace, and Terry.
@ooferrell
@ooferrell 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelaughingman6975 and dont forget his soulmate.... Joker lol
@thelaughingman6975
@thelaughingman6975 4 жыл бұрын
@@douglas2938 Well he likes being alone not out of pleasure but fear if someone close to him is gonna get hurt or worst. Also in Some cases (universes) Joker is his wife
@thelaughingman6975
@thelaughingman6975 4 жыл бұрын
@@douglas2938 Well he likes being alone not out of pleasure but fear if someone close to him is gonna get hurt or worst. Also in Some cases (universes) Joker is his wife
@fonzylopez5806
@fonzylopez5806 4 жыл бұрын
teen titans: thats so raven
@batman369able
@batman369able 4 жыл бұрын
@Galaspark yeah. Take the basic plot of That's So Raven except when her plans backfire, everyone dies and she has to find a new home/family
@DarkpawTheWolf
@DarkpawTheWolf 4 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there. Many probably won't get it.
@toganium4175
@toganium4175 4 жыл бұрын
@@batman369able Almost read backfire as "Blackfire."
@mysryuza
@mysryuza 4 жыл бұрын
*Chokes on my drink*
@codeninja100
@codeninja100 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@meh4757
@meh4757 4 жыл бұрын
when i was in high school I hated high school. The people were awful the classes sucked, i had to wake up at like 5am every damn day. Why would i want to leave a school full of douche bags to go home and read about a school full of douche bags?? The only reason why i loved manga and anime then is because it was a different take on what high school actually was and was a form of escape from what reality was really like
@fujifilm5127
@fujifilm5127 4 жыл бұрын
same,i read/watch shit about high school and feel like i completely missed out on a school experience. school is fucking boring, it lasts 6 hours then you go home and sleep, this is what teens do now, i have literally never EVER seen a love triangle in real life.
@souljastation5463
@souljastation5463 4 жыл бұрын
So, it turned out that changing Japanese names for American ones wasn't a good move. It's a liitle harder to escape when you have characters named Jeff, Ash, Jill etc...
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr! Also isn't he supposed to be Chinese? 9:43 is Japanese, and so is the play they mentioned, Madame Butterfly.
@meh4757
@meh4757 4 жыл бұрын
@@fujifilm5127 i would often hope that one day school would be like it is in anime xD its kinda dorky but I was desperate
@Adrian-qr6gk
@Adrian-qr6gk 4 жыл бұрын
And let's not forget the amount of variability in anime/manga is probably the most of any entertainment form. The different types of characters, stories, emotions, fights, comedies, and just overall uniqueness far surpasses anything western media does. Hell, the things going on in this "high school" story are stupid american cliches that don't exist, they didn't decades ago and they still don't. yet they keep being implemented.If we take a love triangle for example, in a manga one of the main points about this form of a relationship is the competition between the 2 individuals fighting for the singular love interest. Many different scenarios occur(albeit eastern media has its own set of cliches) and there is dialogue, both internal and external, of the characters and how they feel and what they want. Western media mostly have this relationship portrayed as surface level with the competition being harmful to the characters instead of just individually competing for someone. There always has to be betrayal, hateful speech, or physical violence occurring, and at the end things rarely turn out ok, or no one learns anything unlike in anime/manga. I just really like the stories that exist in non-western entertainment over their counterpart.
@JohnnyRose775
@JohnnyRose775 4 жыл бұрын
The premise of this comic reads like an episode of Terrible Writing Advice.
@kecukraftwork1988
@kecukraftwork1988 4 жыл бұрын
When Dann said "but wait, it gets better...", I almost expected TWA to pop up and shout "who can forget the LOVE TRIANGLE?!"
@somenitrogenconsumer8859
@somenitrogenconsumer8859 4 жыл бұрын
Not a love triangle Love Decahedron
@ericthemadscientist8357
@ericthemadscientist8357 4 жыл бұрын
It's literally gossip girl with batman characters lol
@devin5201
@devin5201 4 жыл бұрын
Well there HAS to be a love triangle!
@greenergrass4060
@greenergrass4060 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh one of my favorite youtubers
@wbbooth
@wbbooth 4 жыл бұрын
My prediction for the "surprise" at the end of the love triangle: Selena starts an Onlyfans account and her two boyfriends love and support her bravery.
@hermitcard4494
@hermitcard4494 4 жыл бұрын
She turns Bruce and Jack bi.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
So they all hookup like in X-Men with Wolverine, Scott and Jean? Hmm, that's a good possibility. OR Selena is bi and goes for a girl, leaving them thirsty...or Bruce and Jack get together lol
@joseagustincuesta
@joseagustincuesta 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking she picks both or neither or something like that
@douglas2938
@douglas2938 4 жыл бұрын
😂 Why are people salty about that?
@ooferrell
@ooferrell 4 жыл бұрын
If that happens then its worth the read lol.
@admiralamel9563
@admiralamel9563 4 жыл бұрын
Western Comic industry is colapsing, it's time to be professional hentai artist.
@rm9308
@rm9308 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Wang?
@vincentq2917
@vincentq2917 4 жыл бұрын
She already tried that remember
@Markcus003
@Markcus003 4 жыл бұрын
@@vincentq2917 did it works? Because if she's here then I take that it didn't work? And my goodness thats an easy peasy lemon squeezy writing right there and she even fail, let me guess in here 16 pages hentai 15 of those is about her character being gay,lesbian, and this is my pronoun and all the bullshit and at the last page they say let's have sex.
@vincentq2917
@vincentq2917 4 жыл бұрын
@@Markcus003 i was talking about orgasm girl lol
@MrCantStopTheRobot
@MrCantStopTheRobot 4 жыл бұрын
Your first mistake was not being one already...
@rodrigofaria9109
@rodrigofaria9109 4 жыл бұрын
Calling it now: she'll ditch Brusoy Wang and Jackster Napier in the end, to be with another girl (I bet on Poison Ivy), because men bad.
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 4 жыл бұрын
And then she cheats on Poison Ivy with Harley Quinn.
@MrCantStopTheRobot
@MrCantStopTheRobot 4 жыл бұрын
>DC would like to know your location
@nooctip
@nooctip 4 жыл бұрын
Actually your half right. She does end up with Poision Ivy in the end sort of.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 4 жыл бұрын
@Qwerty Bastard Batsimp, the White Knight! And Joker already became the White Knight at one point iirc!
@Zeno11Salazar
@Zeno11Salazar 4 жыл бұрын
That would suggest the writers are self aware enough to even write any good relationship. Betting on Selina sticking with both or dating one other classmate or perhaps a girl to make them jelous.
@laoaidan2400
@laoaidan2400 4 жыл бұрын
Reminder: Melissa De la cruz wrote Lele pons "Guide to surviving high school" or at least co authored it, so i don't know what anyone expected Please, to combat this kind of comic behavior, don't buy this book. It tells dc that we're not playing this game
@jamierose9095
@jamierose9095 4 жыл бұрын
Not buying half-assed comics like this doesn't seem to stop the big 2 from shitting them out.
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't bought DC or Marvel comics for more than a year now.
@minnion2871
@minnion2871 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamierose9095 Probably because of the way the supply chain worked.... They would sell them to retailers bundled with the titles that people were actually buying.... The retailers would then be stuck with the bad product and have to keep buying the garbage if they wanted to stock the new issues of what would actually sell... The Corona virus has disrupted this model though so now the big two are gonna be in trouble if they don't quickly figure out what their audience actually buys now that they can't rely on the middle men to take the financial hit....
@laoaidan2400
@laoaidan2400 4 жыл бұрын
@Minnion right, but the comic book industries arent the ones showing if the bad apples are being sold, they’re just showing “well they got sold to retailers didnt they, so its a win” and retailers are going “see here are the actual numbers of what did and didnt sell”. Trouble is, a good farmer wouldn’t smuggle in bad produce with good produce to supermarkets and expect people to buy them because they would get sick. Marvel, however, is putting bad comics with good comics, and expecting the bad ones to sell when those ones are making people sick Marvel in turn gets mad that their fanbase has common sense
@chanyeolswife5235
@chanyeolswife5235 4 жыл бұрын
Her books sucks. I had never been able to read more than a chapter. They are bad. I don't understand how she is a best seller author.
@xman5393
@xman5393 4 жыл бұрын
These author's are sooo out of touch with the audience they're supposed to be writing for, it's laughable!!
@WastelandSeven
@WastelandSeven 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think they care. They got paid. Probably up front. By people at the company who don't care either.
@Tusitala1967
@Tusitala1967 4 жыл бұрын
The "surprise in the end" is that Selina chooses to go to prom with a redheaded butch feminist named Holly.
@Makoto03
@Makoto03 4 жыл бұрын
When she says theres a 'surprise at the end', that pretty much confirms shes going to reveal Selena to actually be a lesbian by the end of the book. Its cringey and predictable.
@catnipaddict9418
@catnipaddict9418 4 жыл бұрын
I’m putting my money on all three going poly.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 4 жыл бұрын
Calling it now -- Bruce and Jack will fall for each other, and both of them will dump Selina, but she won't care because "she don't need no man". 🙄🤦🏾‍♀️
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 4 жыл бұрын
@@zxyatiywariii8 Who needs a man when you have cats? 😹
@TheJman669
@TheJman669 4 жыл бұрын
Put the teenage or young heroes as students and adult hero's as the teachers! Simple! Jesus no wonder comics are dying.
@Markcus003
@Markcus003 4 жыл бұрын
That already been done in manga countless time and for some reason comics never thought of that are they mentally impaired or something?
@rodney2x48
@rodney2x48 4 жыл бұрын
These are literally just YA graphic novels that DC does on the side. They're not meant to be sold to the direct market; they're made to attract non-comic book readers and they've actually been selling. They keep making them cause they keep selling.
@wj00312
@wj00312 4 жыл бұрын
@@rodney2x48, proof or kick rocks. I don't mean "clearance" rack sales, either. I'm talking"day one" buys! 😆
@rodney2x48
@rodney2x48 4 жыл бұрын
@@wj00312 All right. This took a bit of time to find but I got some from the first line of books they did. Do keep in mind that these are all based on Diamond's own estimates of books they distribute based on order from LCS. Buckle up, cause this is a LONG comment. Here's the one with the Catwoman YA novel, where it was the top selling graphic novel of May 2019: www.comicsbeat.com/sales-charts-dc-leads-may-graphic-novel-sales/ blog.comichron.com/2019/06/dceased-1-leads-may-2019-comics-orders.html Here's one that mentions Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass being #3 on the month of August's best selling Graphic Novels: www.comicsbeat.com/sales-chart-its-absolute-carnage-for-august-comics-sales/ March 2019 chart puts the Mera book as #10 of the top 500 graphic novels of March 2019: icv2.com/articles/markets/view/43078/top-500-graphic-novels-march-2019 Dear Justice League, which is a kid's book, was also in the top of July 2019's charts, with Raven by Kami Garcia being #18: icv2.com/articles/markets/view/43807/top-500-graphic-novels-july-2019 This one's more recent, but TWO Wonder Woman books, one for kids (Princess of the Amazons) and one for YAs (Warbringer), were in the top 10 of January 2020 charts despite Wonder Woman usually never doing this well and January being a bad start for the year: www.newsarama.com/49037-january-2020-comic-book-sales-charts.html blog.comichron.com/2020/02/wonder-woman-750-leads-january-comics.html Do I even have to mention the DC Superhero Girls books? Cause those sell A LOT, too. These books are made to sell to kids and early teens. They're made to get on that Reina Telgemeier or Kayla Miller audience, the main inspiration for the Ink and Zoom line of books. That's the kind of audience most of these books aim for, and I'm only posting the numbers that they share based on whatever Diamond distributes to LCS. I can't find what numbers they have from bookstore sales, so I can only assume they're doing well since they're making MORE. Idk if that Gotham High book is good or not, but there is a precedent or proof that these kinds of books sell really well or at least decent enough to continue making them. They have an audience that consistently buys them. Btw, clearances don't really help increase sales numbers all that much, at least not for comics and graphic novels. I've worked in retail stores and a friend of mine worked at a comic book for a while, so I know a thing or two about how clearances are done in stores. They're usually done to sell stuff that either DOESN'T sell and needs to be removed from the store to make way for other products... or to sell an excess of that product to make run for more of said product or for something else. They rarely, if ever, count the numbers of clearance sales in monthly charts since those tend to be up to the discretion of the store, not the companies that give them the product in the first place. They get more from the product selling at a normal price, than they do with a clearance sale.
@afuriousblackman
@afuriousblackman 4 жыл бұрын
She wrote the most one-dimensional, bigoted, and ignorant version of Batman I have personally ever seen. Congrats 'Lissa, you are officially an NPC! 👍🏾
@bbureau12
@bbureau12 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, you know Rosa Parks? Awesome lady. Cool story about the bus and all that. I just have a hard time relating to her because instead of a black lady from the South, I'm a white guy from the Midwest... so what if I just wrote her as a white guy from the Midwest, and instead of having her struggle against racism, I have her struggling to find toilet paper at the local supermarket? Hey, you know Amelia Earhart? Cool lady. Generally a good pilot. I just have a hard time relating to her, because instead of a lady flying a plane, I'm a white guy from the Midwest. So instead of writing about her flying a plane, how about I write about her driving the I35 corridor to get to her job in the cities? Hey, you know Abraham Lincoln? Cool guy. Nice job stopping slavery. But even though he's a white guy from the Midwest, I have a hard time relating to him, because he has a beard and never used a cell phone. So instead of writing about Abraham Lincoln, how about I just write about what I did yesterday?
@crypto66
@crypto66 4 жыл бұрын
I'm full Asian and Bruce Wayne's ethnicity never affected how real he seemed to me... unlike his ridiculous wealth. Edit: ...aaaand she shoved the Joker in the romance. And also made Catwoman Hispanic. Goddammit.
@blackcat7k
@blackcat7k 4 жыл бұрын
4:30 Careful, that may just be the twist later: *_"Rejected by Catwoman for the Joker... Batman explores his sexuality in a more intimate way..."_*
@leonardomapache
@leonardomapache 4 жыл бұрын
You think your life is hard? I'm a high school junior wearing 13 million dollar nikes.
@mysryuza
@mysryuza 4 жыл бұрын
Rich Asian Chinese family... *Soviet Union theme plays but immediately stops* Oh wait no--
@danielbollergrimm7059
@danielbollergrimm7059 4 жыл бұрын
always good to notice that Bruce Wayne is the "Crazy rich Asian", Selina is the "Sexy-Latina" and Joker is the "troublesome White boy". i always like my stereotypes when u try to be diverse.
@rociolinares208
@rociolinares208 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I get the feeling the self-insert may actually be the female character. And then you know what happens hahahaha Edit: Also forgot to mention that the fact that a writer is a best seller doesn't make him/her a good author ;)
@Needler13
@Needler13 4 жыл бұрын
Aye, twilight and 50 shades are best sellers. Both are trash.
@rociolinares208
@rociolinares208 4 жыл бұрын
@@PotatoeSnow Hahaha I can also see this being true as well. I just got the feeling the self insert could e the girl because of the way they presented the story in the trailer, it was the girl talking about loving triangles and that kind of stuff hahaha
@TheRealDioBrando
@TheRealDioBrando 4 жыл бұрын
If you want to write a comic about crazy rich asians and highschool romance why not write a comic about crazy rich asians and highschool romance, why bother with the batman part at all, you obviously have no interest in it. Oh because it wouldn't sell on it's own merits of the writers ability and it's easier to sell your race and gender to DC so some editor can farm woke good boy points
@Xardion55
@Xardion55 4 жыл бұрын
The iconic characters are only in name-only. In a nutshell, this story is only writing about _her_ and only for _her._
@raknai
@raknai 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a teenager we discovered Shoujo manga and Vampire knight was the thing. this dont get evem close.
@jacobvargas5651
@jacobvargas5651 4 жыл бұрын
Changing existing characters is annoying and that's how you lose an audience for a smaller one
@souljastation5463
@souljastation5463 4 жыл бұрын
I just don't get corporate's obsession to overuse the same characters again and again and again, FOREVER AND EVER. You want to do a high school, slice of life comic? Fine do it. But why it have to be Batman? Make new, non-superhero characters.
@devin5201
@devin5201 4 жыл бұрын
@@souljastation5463 Familiarity sells.
@souljastation5463
@souljastation5463 4 жыл бұрын
@@devin5201 It's also tiring.
@DaddyDynastic
@DaddyDynastic 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my God are they literally going to make the Joker an incel
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 4 жыл бұрын
I'm calling it now, the story ends with Selina picking Bruce which turns Jack so crazy he becomes the Joker and goes "supreme gentleman" on Selina which leads to Bruce becoming Batman to avenge her death.
@dgsalvilla
@dgsalvilla 4 жыл бұрын
"oh my god it's Bruce Wong - Wayne!" hah, that was nice
@sidgar1
@sidgar1 4 жыл бұрын
How do these no-name writers get bigger billing than the beloved established books they're writing for? I could understand the name with the huge font if they were famous, but honestly I have no clue who Kami Garcia even is. Oh, wait, gay female POC. Instant clout in the comics industry these days 🤦
@XenosImplyer
@XenosImplyer 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a scandal about shitty DC/Marvel writers and journalist making a whisper network and use it to push for nepotism trying to give positions to no-name writers who are their friends or similar ideology.
@KoongYe
@KoongYe 4 жыл бұрын
"I want him to be Chinese living in Hong Kong" Hong Kong is not a part of China.
@AlexandraStubbs
@AlexandraStubbs 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was going to be a BL, Yaoi by how this all feels like! XD You can SO tell this was written by a woman, this does not feel like for male audiences.
@FireDragon3131
@FireDragon3131 4 жыл бұрын
Plot twist, she is bi and then she doesn't choose either of them and picks Harley or Poison Ivy
@Balevolt
@Balevolt 4 жыл бұрын
I bet her Husband was pissed when she told him these things, assuming he truly is a Batman fan.
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he's probably a soy-boy so he went back to playing video games because he's not allowed to be pissed when his wife's boyfriend comes over to visit.
@PeterDanielBerg
@PeterDanielBerg 4 жыл бұрын
a chinese batman could have worked in the same way that red son was about a soviet superman. the idea of batman's wealth as a barrier to human connection could have also been an interesting story in isolation. but all this is just too many things at once.
@arisakathedappergoose4796
@arisakathedappergoose4796 4 жыл бұрын
so you mean as a geeky, female comic book fan, you aren't in their targeted demographic?
@mslightbulb
@mslightbulb 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think they even know who their demographic is. They should already know that what girl comic and manga fans like is cute characters dying horribly and nuclear explosions.
@Markcus003
@Markcus003 4 жыл бұрын
@@mslightbulb nuclear explosion over the top exaggerated expression one hour documentary/monologue about there plan, you're to weak, this is not my final form, I'm over 9000, clothes that disregard the law of physics, big ass transforming robot, big booty/tits well time camera angle, weird wet thick slimy sound effect.
@loone3100
@loone3100 4 жыл бұрын
Aragon Mark That’s more boy manga, also tentacles
@Markcus003
@Markcus003 4 жыл бұрын
@@loone3100 sorry my bad
@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881
@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 4 жыл бұрын
@@mslightbulb and non existent gay relationships i.e. Fujoshis
@BellowDGaming
@BellowDGaming 4 жыл бұрын
It's just banking on the Cyclops, Jean Grey and Wolverine relationships. Won't be surprised if Bruce turns to be bi in this one.
@WastelandSeven
@WastelandSeven 4 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of a documentary where Denny O'Neil talked about when they put Jason Todd's Robin death up for a vote. He went somewhere for lunch and the guy saw the Batman pin on his jacket. When they found out he edited Batman, the guy yelled, "Hey dis is the guy that killed Robin!" O'Neil then said the following. "I realized then that the Batman and Superman editors aren't just editing stories. They're the custodians of folklore." This is something Marvel and DC have forgotten.
@AlexLopezMan
@AlexLopezMan 4 жыл бұрын
4 Dislikes!? let´s see: writter. artist, colorist and lettering , fair enough, 02/04/20. 12 dislikes!? well is also editor, assist editor and a few friends
@t.thomas8919
@t.thomas8919 4 жыл бұрын
Got any to go with the newest down votes? Please say you do. XD
@nopatiencejoe6376
@nopatiencejoe6376 4 жыл бұрын
The artist is probably one of the likes, I imagine the pain of having to waste hours on end to draw something that they probably knew was gargabe and had little to no control over it.
@QuartzIsAnOxide
@QuartzIsAnOxide 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna say the surprise at the end is gonna be either: -Jack gets the girl because the writer still thinks "poor man gets the girl" is a plot twist, even though it's been done before, or... -Neither Jack nor Bruce get the girl, and they instead fall for each other, or the girl gets a girlfriend... or both!
@Xeorboom
@Xeorboom Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest: Joker felt more like Trickster...
@ChaosoneX
@ChaosoneX 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I though people were complaining about the cartoon idea posited several years ago. What you read made me so irate, I almost threw my phone. I'm not going to blame the writer, though; I'm blaming the editors who let her do it. And with Batman, of all titles, whose mythos is VERY recognizable by even normies that don't read comics. The level of disrespect to the source material is galling. It's like those people that write fanfiction, but have never read the original work -- everything they know they got from other people's fanfics. And they're proud of this fact. This is what Fifty Shades of Grey would look like if you took all the BDSM sexy/Inner Goddess bits out, then claimed it an adaption of Twilight.
@WastelandSeven
@WastelandSeven 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Even kids coming up know Batman's mythos. Those animated shows that did stick to the origin story are out there. Kids who would be interested in this book know better than this.
@grzegorzpawowski2076
@grzegorzpawowski2076 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe when she says: "Making him Chinese was a no-brainer" she means no brain was used in making that decission
@jeetkuneluke
@jeetkuneluke 4 жыл бұрын
6:46 - The moment I said, out loud, alone, "I want to die now."
@mysryuza
@mysryuza 4 жыл бұрын
Those illustrators/writers need to go a basic class about decent composition
@WastelandSeven
@WastelandSeven 4 жыл бұрын
And be forced to memorize Will Eisner's book on sequential art before they touch a keyboard or pencil.
@konsyjes
@konsyjes 4 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, the surprise is she's a lebian and she's into a strong vaguely ethnic misunderstood genius girl who loves the science.
@TheSouloftheDragon
@TheSouloftheDragon 4 жыл бұрын
This is a CW show waiting to happen.
@officerbucktuddrussel394
@officerbucktuddrussel394 4 жыл бұрын
6:45 Let me guess, the surprise at the end is that she picks neither of them and hooks up with another girl.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow 4 жыл бұрын
"New York Times Best Seller" ... really doesnt mean much these days when its clear the quality control department was shut down at some point.
@kylethomas9130
@kylethomas9130 4 жыл бұрын
When I first saw this, "Who the hell is Jack?"
@seanb390
@seanb390 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted a part 3 to Bad Comics, I really need to be careful what I wish for.
@mysryuza
@mysryuza 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't trying to change the races of characters for the soul purpose of being inclusive, realism, and be hip with the crowd be considered "cultural appropriation?"
@WastelandSeven
@WastelandSeven 4 жыл бұрын
Only if Bruce Wayne wasn't a white male. Besides, race/sex swapping is all the rage with them.
@cutecobra9696
@cutecobra9696 4 жыл бұрын
If I was able to pick whatever DC or marvel superhero to "revamp", I'd choose a Ghost Rider.
@ashleycarpenter4254
@ashleycarpenter4254 4 жыл бұрын
Omg Madam butterfly Wtf why they got to make everything asian Its supposed to be zoro or the grey ghost Something that a young bruce was inspired by to be a hero What kind of hero is in madam butterfly
@renatonovis
@renatonovis 4 жыл бұрын
the love triangle is straight out of Terrible Writing Advice
@hmvd22
@hmvd22 4 жыл бұрын
“Ultimately there’s a surprise at the end” She picks another woman (probably Ivy), while Bruce and Jack hook up... mark my words.
@blackRXrider
@blackRXrider 4 жыл бұрын
This is still better than when Supergirl fell in love with her horse or when she wanted to marry her cousin.
@zerokidd21
@zerokidd21 4 жыл бұрын
5:36 "but wait...." Me: "there's more!!!!" Dan: "it gets better" Me: "awwww she got me."
@thosewhocando
@thosewhocando 4 жыл бұрын
Ouch. And Alfred is in Hong Kong while Master Wane is in Gotham...not bloody likely. Also Why does Joker look like early 90s grung rock?
@mephistopheles1086
@mephistopheles1086 4 жыл бұрын
That feel like a really bad Twilight/Batman fanfic and I thought I read the worst fanfic ever made. XD
@rouju
@rouju 4 жыл бұрын
Is this fan fiction? Or how 50 Shades of Grey version if Batman is...Twilight? How cringe can this be ha ha
@FrozenGale
@FrozenGale 4 жыл бұрын
Surprise, she's lesbian. Or surprise Bruce hooks up with Joker. Or surprise it's gonna be about making someone gay and that's the big twist.
@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet
@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet 4 жыл бұрын
They have a three-way with now gay Alfred...
@unicornwater3792
@unicornwater3792 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so great. I just found you and I've been watching all of them the last few days. Good luck getting yourself out there!
@error_404.69
@error_404.69 4 жыл бұрын
That quote sounds like the author gave DC a copy of their fan fiction
@dahazelgen
@dahazelgen 4 жыл бұрын
There was actually a batman cartoon that was cancelled called gotham high
@batnerd5148
@batnerd5148 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the people told to write that said, “okay” and then made Batman Beyond instead. I don’t think they even had a name for the original idea, because Bruce Timm and co. immediately decided that ‘Bruce Wayne as a teenager’ is a horrible idea that everyone would hate, but what do the creators of Batman: The Animated Series, a.k.a. The Best Superhero Cartoon of All Time know, right?
@lolzfake1237
@lolzfake1237 4 жыл бұрын
@@batnerd5148 there was a second attempt but came about other than a few promo images on the batman wikia
@lordchaosmonkey552
@lordchaosmonkey552 4 жыл бұрын
If DC want some of that manga money, DO A MANGA!!! I'd read a hardcore dc manga.
@Markcus003
@Markcus003 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot if it's DC or Marvel but there is a actually comics manga which is quit good actually and yes I know that manga is just a Japanese comics what I mean is it has the looks and story of a manga but published by either by DC or Marvel.
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. There was Batman manga in the 80s & it was pretty good in its time. Why doesn't DC just do that anymore?
@Markcus003
@Markcus003 4 жыл бұрын
@@P.Whitestrake I don't know because maybe manga destroy there sell chart? And they don't like manga because if you know manga you know how diverse it is just look it up you can find what suits you there the good one and the bad one this makes me sad and happy sometimes.
@revolvertaco7493
@revolvertaco7493 4 жыл бұрын
There actually were a few around 10 years or so. Batman goes to japan and ends up fighting the yakuza with some Japanese characters. A friend of mine had them in college.
@lordchaosmonkey552
@lordchaosmonkey552 4 жыл бұрын
taco nice. I read a bit of the marvel manga, years ago. Never caught dc one. They definitely need to bring it back.
@FromthegeekDen
@FromthegeekDen 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no it's Bruce Wong 🤣🤣 now that's a slip of the tongue! What the hell is SJW self indulgent culture doing to these beloved characters???
@cokeglas
@cokeglas 4 жыл бұрын
No offense, but are female comic writers unable to write stories that aren't centred around themselves? They don't seem to have much imagination.
@rougesnek2454
@rougesnek2454 4 жыл бұрын
SJW comic writers and misogynistic men can't write stories that aren't centered around themselves. Heck, Webtoon and Hivesworks has better stories and art than whatever YA SJW crap the western comic industry is currently pulling up their ass. If you want to read a good comic written by a competent female writer and illustrated by an outstanding artist I recommend the comic Lackadaisy, especially if you're interested in historical fiction and into good characters.
@QuartzIsAnOxide
@QuartzIsAnOxide 4 жыл бұрын
"Wind * Water * Flame * Earth" That's one typo away from the Element Skateboards logo
@psyrolz1626
@psyrolz1626 4 жыл бұрын
4:53 and "Bruce Wong" killed me! The only good thing about this kind of cringe and Marvel's are the videos about them. I miss older stories. hell, even Spiderman's clone saga looks amazing in comparison with recent stories.
@zeldaprincessgirl100
@zeldaprincessgirl100 4 жыл бұрын
Lets see..i'm Puerto Rican and Dominican woman, when i draw my characters, they are usually in a fantasy world, and i never insert myself in any of them, i give them their own things, it's not hard to write a character, we're all human beings, we all have the same struggles and goals, we're no different aside from skin color and ethnicity, we can use that and put them in characters, their goals, struggles, flaws, mental issues etc I can go ahead and redraw the characters as other characters and change the story, i'm not a professional artist, but it would be fun.
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 4 жыл бұрын
The fact a normal fanfic can be better than this fanfic is sad, tragic and insulting at the same time.
@jasontodd6779
@jasontodd6779 3 жыл бұрын
So the writer can not relate to her character because he is not Asian like her and she have to changes him from white to Asian like her in order for her to relate to him. That sound kind of racist.
@cygnusx10
@cygnusx10 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to "Read Along with dannphan". I'd listen to you read it all, tbh. Great vid.
@Xegethra
@Xegethra 4 жыл бұрын
She want's a character to be more representative of her background? You know....she could just come up with something herself. It's more effort sure, and noone would really care but it's better than making Batman....not Batman.
@pedroalmeida5550
@pedroalmeida5550 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. You are pretty weird in how eloquent and animated you are, and that energy (and editing) make your videos very easy to watch! Keep up the great work, very entertaining.
@augustinequinault9609
@augustinequinault9609 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the context and perspective regarding YA lit in general. I don't think any other reviews did that.
@Matej_Sojka
@Matej_Sojka 4 жыл бұрын
Having that preview read aloud was torture. Even in your pleasant voice.
@fizzydrink6921
@fizzydrink6921 4 жыл бұрын
16:07 How do you do fellow kids?
@ShermanistDruid
@ShermanistDruid 4 жыл бұрын
He who laughs last, thinks the slowest...
@masterstuffing
@masterstuffing 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of self insert is hilarious
@thewholefnshow
@thewholefnshow 4 жыл бұрын
You are so consistent and entertaining with these videos. Keep it up
@phangkuanhoong7967
@phangkuanhoong7967 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Chinese, and this bullshit comic incredibly insulting.
@lordwarryl5712
@lordwarryl5712 4 жыл бұрын
4:35 the sarcasm is too much XD
@diosnelfrica7589
@diosnelfrica7589 4 жыл бұрын
Hey when are we starting the bets to see who’ll fail first if Gotham High or New New Warriors?
@magnumcornetto
@magnumcornetto 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought the idea behind these was to make YA novels with some Elseworlds-like version of the comics' characters. Like, it was DC's attempt at getting in the YA novel business. The fact that these things are actually comics is both baffling and lame. Who do they think is going to buy this? Girls are not going to buy this.
@MrCantStopTheRobot
@MrCantStopTheRobot 4 жыл бұрын
"Peak cringe." Oh yes, feed me
@EnnuiElpis
@EnnuiElpis 4 жыл бұрын
Just thought you might want to know, Melissa de la Cruz is the person who wrote the Descendants novels. I read the first one and it was, okay. A bit pulpy and campy, but okay. The more you know.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
A few thoughts: 1) Batman is Asian based on a stereotype that the half or part Asian approves of. Money equals Asian in America...okay. Also, a little rabbit hole logic. If the author is progressive in politics, chances are a Chinese Bruce Wayne seems suspect with current sentiments with the country and how socialists approve of CCP government. 2) Everyone except the guy who is going to become a villain is ethnic. And looks like a 90s grunge kid...because that screams Joker. He was psychotic, not rebellious. He was an unfunny, awkward guy in life in most popular iteration. 3) The art sucks 4) Alfred being gay adds nothing to the story. The fact Bruce made his uncle his butler, his uncle pretty much sending him away after his parents died probably isn't the best image you want to give Asians, because the author thinks that is so important. 5) I doubt it mentions the Hong Kong protests and how China is bad. 6) Selena being from a poorer rich family just in order to have some relation to Bruce makes no sense. She was commoner if not poor, so giving her disipating wealth is just...I don't get it. Wouldn't she be feminist or bitter at her circumstances? Selena Kyle was also a seductress, she used men. I bet that changed entirely. 7) Why did they take away all of Thomas Wayne's (who also looked Asian) accomplishments? That was supposed to be something that grounded Bruce's perspective on wealth and looking after those less fortunate. They gave it to his wife, changed the iconic scenario of their death and none of it had even the slightest impact compared to what we all know. 8) It's fine if Dick Greyson is black, but why change his race? Why are he and Bruce the same age? Why give another rich kid a card to train how to fight when he has the means and money to do so already if being picked on? His parents would sue the school, so the whole scenario is unrealistic. Also, all Asians know Kung-Fu. 9) Jack pulled a crisp bill out of a dumpster because he has money-sensing abilities. He could sniff a quarter out of a cowpie. 10) New York Times Best-Sellers are only there because they follow some kind of trend on the market, not because they are good authors. Good authors adapt, not try and make a character a self-insert. Castlevania, this, and too many other Western adaptions of some property into another form end up disastrous in America. Is our ego this massive while touting individuality? It seems a subculture is forming from popular media because we are only seeing bitter, ego-drive, typically wealthy (ironically) young people enter these industries and ruin it. Or we get pervy old dudes trying to be cool conforming, then later getting caught for looking up naughty things, though pro-female. I'd love to say all of this is intentional, to destroy mediums of prior generations or just bombard young people with a particular view or mindset until it because the norm. Once it's a norm, it goes under the radar. In the other instance, we are seeing truly creative people pushed out the industry for whatever views for emotionally damaged of particular class or ideology hijack something they neither care for or know about. This author left out Batman's intelligence and determination, his real superpowers. Their view= "it's his money." They know nothing of Batman. Castlevania inserted eroticism and took pointers from Game of Thrones, not the IP itself though saying they were fans of the games (though admitting later knew nothing of the game they were adapting), then Marvel.....nuff said. Manga will reign supreme as long as this madness continues or comics are gone altogether aside indie.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
@Tom The Fish You mean does. I don't recall American comics being popular worldwide.
@codeninja100
@codeninja100 4 жыл бұрын
BluMiu very concise, well written and spot on. American comics died in the 90’s. Manga has gotten better and better for the past 60 years. It is no contest story wise, art wise, concept wise. I’m glad even as an American I was privileged to be that early 2000’s generation that grew up on manga and not western comics. Only thing entertaining about western comics is the dumpster fire that is the industry.
@codeninja100
@codeninja100 4 жыл бұрын
MrNahual2099 without a doubt
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
@Tom The Fish Are you thinking of anime or manga? Anime is more popular in the West as many don't like to read or know how, but both mediums have been global. Western comics have never been huge outside of America, save perhaps Europe to some degree. You have a handful of superheroes many can recognize, while manga has produced successful shows, games, movies, merchandise, audio dramas and what else. Marvel and DC have only stepped up with movies the past decade, while the comic industry collapses. Manga i supported in its home country and abroad. If you simply don't like manga, that's your issue, but it clearly is superior because most mangaka care about what they create, not pushing agendas. They tell a variety of stories in many genre while the West only has superheroes.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
@@codeninja100 What restrictions and obstacles do mangaka face compared to a Western industry that blocks anyone from entering because they don't have the same ideology or beliefs? That's one huge problem. The other problem existed since I was a teen and realized; Western comics stopped trying to be diverse in the things you mentioned. Even if they don't have the scope manga has in every day life to giant robots, it still was able to tell cohesive stories with their superheroes. I just think it finally came to a point where you can only do so much with the same characters, rehash the same story so much and have the same experienced and thoughtful writers behind it. Manga flourishes because you have different individuals putting their own work out, not a system in which a lot of different things have to be adhered to. Also as an artist, I enjoyed seeing different styles and genres explored compared to Western comics. I still like certain superheroes, yet you have to be clear what iteration of that character unlike in manga/anime, the character is consistent because they are respected.
@flyingfck9838
@flyingfck9838 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Wong vs. Joker Chan in a high octane romance school slice of life drama
@neildorsett3225
@neildorsett3225 4 жыл бұрын
It's weird that Warner chooses DC to make this kind of product when they could easily just buy out one of those customization companies that puts your child's name in a book. That kind of crap has been around for decades.
@oldhatAN
@oldhatAN 4 жыл бұрын
They really do have to make everything about themselves.
@PuppyMonsters
@PuppyMonsters 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I stopped caring about comics back in the 90's when they made three decades of comics I had been collecting completely worthless.
@MyForgeStudioss
@MyForgeStudioss 4 жыл бұрын
I am from Brazil and I met your channel now and it is very good, you are fun and speak well /
@dougauzene8389
@dougauzene8389 4 жыл бұрын
YA = Young Adult? NOPE! YA Now = Young Asians! "FORGET IT, BATMAN... IT'S CHINATOWN!" ;-) (Apologies to Robert Evans)
@andrelinoge9178
@andrelinoge9178 4 жыл бұрын
The real twist at the end is... She chooses the principal!
@QuietRage
@QuietRage 3 жыл бұрын
I find it very ironic that youtube recommended this to me after 'I am not Starfire' was unleashed on the world
@DD-jj2tc
@DD-jj2tc 4 жыл бұрын
Just think of all the money this will make with scholastic sale.. good thing the kids are at home
@Noperare
@Noperare 4 жыл бұрын
The real question is... Is Bruce Wang gonna do a "free Honk Kong" reference? I mean, he is not just chinese, he is from Honk Kong and we have enough "orange man bad" references in comics.
@bcluett1697
@bcluett1697 4 жыл бұрын
I guess it might escalate into something more interesting later. I laughed when Selina says she's the girl next door. LOL Not hardly. A little too slick for that. I think the audiences like Joker to be cruel and dangerous so she's got a chance of building him up from scratch. She's hardly covering new ground with highlighting Bruce as a rich kid separated by wealth. Nothing surprising there.
@tranquilk5912
@tranquilk5912 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any words for this.... Because I have none. Not even Gordon Ramsey's insults can describe this...
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