DCS: AH-64D | TSD Basics

[@Maverickf20]

I’ve just spent the morning studying for chemistry finals, and then thought, “Let me relax and watch a new Wags video.” It turns out the Apache is both more stressful and complicated than chemistry.

[@SsgtHolland]

Should have chosen physics;)

[@Maverickf20]

@@SsgtHolland As long as it’s not economics, I’ll be fine

[@mr.simulator4724]

Its not that difficult its just confusing at first with all the acronyms. Once you use it a few times you will know what everything does. Its easier to use then a flip phone

[@ColonelAkirNakesh]

Funny, that was me in 11th grade chemistry reading the Jane’s Longbow manual in class instead of paying attention.

[@Ceej64]

Chemistry PhD Student.... can confirm :D

[@SsgtHolland]

Ok, this system makes the ABRIS look like Nintendo. Can't wait for the next video's and dive in deep! Your instruction is still second to none, Wags. Thank you.

[@jakubdabrowski3846]

And it's just TSD Basics...

[@indianajon7980]

If only i studied as hard at uni as I do now with these videos!! Can't wait !!!

[@giuseppefazio9313]

Same, my guy. Same.

[@Syd536]

Always a good day when Waggy Daddy puts up a new video!

[@Pricklyhedgehog72]

Finally had some time to watch this. Very impressed, and intimidated, by the detail, and the layers to the various systems, even if they're not all fully implemented. Study sim' for sure...

[@StrongHarm]

Outstanding! I'm so excited for this module. Some of my forum comments in the past, when this module was just a distant dream: Posted May 26, 2015 If ED ever makes a PFM/ASM of the AH-64D, I'll have to dig a slit trench in my office and buy a two year supply of beefaroni.. only to find next time I take a break that my wife has moved out and my dog is bonding with the neighbors. Posted July 7, 2015 AH-64.. I'd gnaw on my monitor and whine like a mutt. Posted February 20, 2018 Me if DCS:AH-64 ever happens: "I don't remember what day I lost my job, my house, my cars, or my wife. I don't even know if today is shower day. I can tell you the launch date of DCS: AH-64 Apache though. Ahh what a glorious day! Hey, does someone on your news crew have a sandwich or something? Yeah ok, I'll take off my VR goggles for a sandwich." Posted January 24, 2018 ..I think my vote would go to the AH-64 instead of the KA-52. The notion does put a fear in me though. I will, very likely, lose my job and my marriage if ED puts out an Apache module.

[@ImagenNoReligion]

Good luck my friend.

[@StrongHarm]

​@@ImagenNoReligion I'm going to need it. My wife thinks I talked my son into joining the Army so I could watch the Apaches. She's not wrong. Whenever we visit him on base we always seem to get lost and end up at the airfield. "Shut your mouth boy, I know where I'm going! No Honey, it's the next intersection, I promise. Me and the boy have to get out and salute these helicopters as they pass though, it's a rule. No one gave you leave to speak yet boy, just get out of the truck."

[@Mossyyyyyyy]

So how are things my friend? Has the wife and dog began to suspect anything is amiss yet?

[@StrongHarm]

@@Mossyyyyyyy Well, oddly enough (and, this is too horrible to be fiction) the Apache Module, for which I've yearned for so long, dropped the day before my anniversary... you know, Date Night, followed by Quality Time Day and Bigger Date Night. Today is our anniversary and I haven't been able to fly yet. It has had an effect though; she keeps telling me that I seem distracted. I can't imagine why! Pray that I might remain strong... pray... for ... me.

[@StrongHarm]

Update on Apache launch on my 15th wedding anniversary: You know how I said truth was too horrible to be fiction? Well, wife and I were looking at wedding pictures on Amazon Photos on a big TV and this big ass and gash show up, bent over on the screen... one that isn't hers (which we knew immediately because she's a Lady... a good Christian one). I had never seen that butt and didn't know where the heck it came from. I thought maybe someone grabbed my phone and took a butt selfie ... but couldn't imagine how... and I don't know anyone that.. athletic. I come to find out that after my Army son had texted me a URL a few months ago saying he knew a girl on that site and she had messed him over (me and him had a much bigger discussion about making good decisions, and about how just because he's in the military doesn't mean he can treat me like a drinking buddy and send me bad links)... but anyway, I figure this out along with the fact that Amazon Photos backs up pics texted to your phone... and the file name put it alphabetically right next to my wedding photos... by some horrible apocalyptic fate. I explained this to my wife but she barely believes me so this whole thing was an enormous disaster. I've had PLENTY of time to fly Apache since then... while she thinks I'm sleeping on the couch! LOL! This is a true story. It would take Stephen King's dark imagination to make something like this up, right? F my life... but YAY the Apache is out!

[@ArizonaGoldHunters]

Hey Everyone, Wags here from Eagle Dynamics... Ahhhh. My favorite words of You Tube...

[@sabatheus]

Anyone else start salivating when Wags mentioned the Fire Control Radar? He’s got me trained like Pavlov’s dogs!

[@shagrat47]

Astonishingly no. I am more hyped for the fact it is removable and we can shed some weight when going hunting... Buddy lasing for aircraft and playing cat and mouse with technicals etc. 😄

[@TheCraigHudson]

Already own this just waiting for her to drop. I’m pretty confident in my a10c2 abilities and hornet so hopefully the Apache will be right at home

[@maean7410]

adjusting to helis takes a decent chunk of time

[@ConflictGamingGroup]

You are wildly unprepared. The tactics and systems are VERY different.

[@Juhujalp]

Hey Matt, I have a question that has been bothering me recently. I have many friends that want to play with me and given what they play I think the'd have a lot of fun managing the systems of the Tomcat, looking down the sights of the hind or just firing away as a huey door gunner. Has Eagle Dynamics ever considered delivering a "passenger" version of a dlc at a reduced price for people that simply want to join their friends and have no desire to command an aircraft? If you have I'd be very interested in your thoughts and if you have not I'd be more than happy for you to at least consider this option. Thanks for all you do at ED and keep the wonderful work going! Juhuja

[@nickgrey4136]

Dear Sir, we haven't considered it but we will discuss internally. Many thanks and kind regards, Nick

[@sniperwolfpk5]

Yes I am with you

[@dimitrigaillot5033]

Good idea ! It could be awesome !

[@Juhujalp]

@@nickgrey4136 Thank you!

[@FuriouslyFurious]

I completely agree. I think that some people would love to use their mouse and keyboard to control WSO, RIO, CPG stations. For instance, my son has no interest in flying, but he would like to look out for targets and shoot stuff up. Some people also don't want to invest in a HOTAS or head tracking setups. It would certainly open up the sim to a bigger audience and who knows, maybe even convert some of them into pilots who would later upgrade to the full module.

[@SimDeck]

Superb. I hope you guys have a nice break over the Christmas period. Looks like it's been a heavy workload for you all. It just looks so good.

[@ViperBATDTF]

Brilliance. But we expected nothing less. C'mon January.. I need to learn my bird!🤘☠🤘

[@ernestwinslow7316]

From my point of view, the AH-64D module would far exceed the A-10C warthog module in levels of implementation. It beats me on how features shown in this video and previous ones are coded. I am certain all other modules in my hangar would take a back seat for quite sometime for the AH-64D. This module is coming out really good. Thumps up to ED.

[@ekushisu_]

@@AlbertZiegler069 because of the discount ?

[@lindsaybrown5897]

Because it was worth it

[@ctguy1955]

Thank You for the great tutorial, very easy to understand and I appreciate that ! Happy New Year Matt Just turned 67 and am looking so forward to the release of the Corsair F4U and some other Maps.

[@Mightymoose02]

The video made a lot more sense after getting the Apache module and playing around some. Great and informative tutorial.

[@MattWagner]

Yes. we suspected this would be the case.

[@Mightymoose02]

@@MattWagner Thanks for the reply 🙂

[@williamscarlett7505]

The year was 1986 and the system was Commodore 128; the game, Microprose GunShip. Gunship has really grown. Much Thanks.

[@TrickerDCS]

I came 🐳 I learned 🏫 I conquered 👨🏻‍✈️

[@sedlo]

giggity

[@sloppydog4831]

Yeah, it's boring. Yeah, it is a lot of information. But here I am, three months later, watching and re watching the videos because it makes all sense now, having the real deal on our hands. Thank you Wags for your patience and taking your time to make this tutorials for us.

[@tomaszwota1465]

Is it boring, though? Shooty boom zoom is fun, but going deep into systems is what it's really all about.

[@JSDCS]

Wags presents TSD basics. My brain - information overload!

[@neillander2922]

Wags, you magnificent bastard! Thank you and the team for all that you do. I have been studying the Manual and rewatching your fantastic guides.

[@fansaaap]

Awsome great job so far Eagle dynamics and thank you for the great videos Matt!

[@alcmann]

Sad to hear about MIDS/Datalink. Hopefully this can be revisited, or implement a filler type system that will suffice for gameplay in DCS that doesn't break ITAR, similar to what we have in other modules.

[@MrPhantom453]

^This.

[@Raptor_9]

The datalink the SA overlay is referring to is Blue Force Tracker. AH-64D's have never had MIDS/Link16.

[@SaintBrick]

@@agostonbazmajer1100 We should be getting the SADL datalink. I *think* that may be the datalink system the longbow uses, but in any case we will have some form of datalink for the longbow system.

[@Raptor_9]

@@SaintBrick SADL was only installed on A-10C's and some F-16's

[@luish19779]

This baby was my Christmas present 🎁, but I have to wait for January…. I wait for you baby.

[@KamionKing]

Thanks, Wag! Great info

[@chipwillis]

The level of detail for ADF nav is insane. Is it safe to assume that proper VOR or Tacan is modelled as well? Man, this thing is levels deep so far, cannot wait!

[@Rex-ii2yz]

If I recall the 64D only has ADF. But I could be mistaken. I dont think the 64s got VOR or ILS until the Echo.

[@chipwillis]

@@Rex-ii2yz hmm wow. that seems crazy. we had vor ils in Hueys in the 80s. Then again, this was an attack bird. I cant remember what Cobras had now, been so long

[@Rex-ii2yz]

@@chipwillis I know right! I was flying full IFR capable 60A/L's back in the early 2000s, and it blew my mind when folks told me all the 64D's had was an ADF. But to be honest I dont think it was ever really a limiting factor with the exception of self deploying. I can understand that at the time, it just was not a requirement for the mission that the 64 performs.

[@lindsaybrown5897]

I guess that’s why its paired with a kaiwa

[@robertimmink8487]

Big class and very detailed avionics 🤩 Keep up the good work!

[@flyguy1237]

Looking forward to seeing this in action when it's released. Thanks for the video.

[@Antares2]

It looks like a LOT of features will be available from day 1. Not being a real Apache pilot, I don't know how much is missing obviously, but I like that we get what seems to be a fairly finished product when it comes out.

[@Kathlanus]

@@AlbertZiegler069 Wags stated himself that they jumped the gun with the F16 and it seems they learned their lesson from that. Not saying the Apache will be close to feature complete. As a matter of fact it's confirmed it'll lack at least one of it's major features at launch (which was stated from day one afaik). But I'm fairly sure a F16 level of EA launch won't happen again any time soon. Not saying you should start pre-order again. Just saying ED is capable of learning

[@Antares2]

@@AlbertZiegler069 Normally I agree that you should be careful with preordering anything. However, ED has proven to me more than enough times that they deliver excellent modules. Sure, the releases may have issues in the beginning (like all software), but they always become amazing over time. I'm never worried that they'll stop patching a module before it's done to the same high level as the others. The F-16s release is a dead horse that has been beaten enough. If you look at the Mosquito or Hind, they were in a much better state at initial release. And regardless, the F-16 module is becoming better and more complete all the time, so the release issues are nothing but a bad memory now. I think they've done more than enough to redeem themselves. At least they've done so in my eyes. I expect the AH-64 to have issues in the beginning, and there will certainly be some features that are yet to be implemented. But overall, I am not worried about the quality. Especially down the line once it has been thoroughly tested by all of us and patched.

[@Antares2]

@@AlbertZiegler069 That is obviously your prerogative. I'm not saying that people MUST trust ED and preorder anything. I'm simply saying that I do at this point. Hopefully, the Apache will be an amazing module that we can all enjoy, regardless if we preorder or wait a bit for it to come out.

[@Antares2]

@@AlbertZiegler069 You sound very negative. I don't understand why, but that's your business.

[@Antares2]

@@AlbertZiegler069 Calm down man.

[@brianburcombe81]

Dang, I have a new appreciation for my cousin who piloted one of these. I'm hoping for the "manual for dummies" to come out so I can operate to blow some crap up.

[@carlobaroncini949]

Thanks a lot, Matt!

[@djbiscuit1818]

It's quite frustrating to see the Apache gets pan, but the F-18C doesn't get SLEW. Not to mention the varied map modes. The features are functionally identical, and the Hornet's HSI page as displayed on the AMPCD in the Lot-20 model has very similar functionality to the TSD. It's disappointing to see this early access module getting features the years-old Hornet still doesn't have.

[@nunyabiz6952]

👍Can't wait!

[@Sven2157]

Thanks, and Happy Holidays, Wags! 🤘😊 🎄

[@Greendayle]

Matt not only made a typo, but also forgot 2021 existed.

[@Tailspin07]

Yikes, this is getting intimidating. Hopefully it'll all fall together when we see it in action, and hopefully detailed in-flight training missions will be included with this module as well!

[@charlies40556]

It’s not that bad it’s like a helicopter A-10c2

[@shagrat47]

You CAN use all that detailed stuff for navigation, but you can still Follow Roads and do dead reckoning in the beginning... One step at a time.

[@Renkovic_]

At 8:53 you said contours and FFD are not available on this version. What do you mean by that? The D version doesnot have those or is a DCS thing?

[@dan7446]

Or, has it not yet been implemented in the version that Matt's using, but is it planned to be implemented before release?

[@sniperwolfpk5]

It means the D version don't have that feature

[@djbiscuit1818]

@@sniperwolfpk5 it could also be that they aren't implementing it on the DCS version of the Apache. The Hornet should have similar CHRT, DTED (digital terrain elevation data), and CIB (controlled image base, effectively satellite imagery from what I can tell) modes, but doesn't have them, and they currently don't seem to be planned for implementation.

[@sebastianromanowski3087]

I cant wait for this!!!! Great work guys

[@performance13able]

Matt, as with most DCS pilots I am extremely happy with the release of the new AH-64 Apache helicopter. However in my experience in fighting this early access release, I do have to question the flight characteristics in terms of SACS (Sability Actuation and Control Systems). As a 9 year US Army AH-1G (Moderized, ECAS, AHIS) mechanic and Technical Inspector, I don't understand why there is no control dampening stability effects modeled into this DCS AH-64's flight dynamics. I mean it essentially mirrors the same control dynamics as the UH-1 Huey which I know can't be an accurate depiction of the advanced AH-64's control systems. The hydraulic actuators that are installed within the yaw, pitch and roll controls systems should add much more flight stability and control. Thanks Gordon

[@MattWagner]

There is, considerably. You may wish to take a look at my earlier Controls video and adjust your curves.

[@performance13able]

That's an option, thanks.

[@performance13able]

I tell you what Matt that stability control computer, that sat behind the pilot's seat, was a powerful component in terms of stabilizing the pilot's fight control inputs. An impressive system!

[@Hiuuz]

This gonna be so cool as EECH :P

[@sicario684]

this is what u call basics

[@gopherbar]

When’s it out already purchased I cannot wait aaaaahhhhhh 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@ColonelAkirNakesh]

Would you be able to make a tutorial on your HOTAS setup for the Apache like you did for the Hornet and Viper? This looks great and can't wait to give it a spin!

[@MattWagner]

Yes, it is something I hope to do, time willing.

[@Wntrmute1]

Really enjoying these videos and studying them before the module is released. A little confused though. At roughly the 3:20 mark, does he mean the lower right instead of the lower left for the endurance time?

[@Kathlanus]

That's a metric ton of information. But I feel like this will not be as hard to learn as it seems once you can actually play with it. It seems all to be layed out quite logically.

[@killajaden891]

Matt, I watched this video 3x all ready and it doesn't seem to much different than some of the other US aircraft I have. The one thing that got me was the amount of information on the small screen making SA to be more difficult. My main question is there a declutter option for some of the information, or will it not an option for these display screens? Like someone else said this is as confusing as chemistry. lol. Also I know that this is a major thought across the community is there any talk between ED and Thrust Master to make a updated Cougar for the Apache?

[@SimDeck]

Bit more thinking time in a helo I suppose. Not bombing around at speed etc. I'm sure it won't take long to wrap our heads around this.

[@Rabies4818]

“….. this concludes the BASIC functions of the TSD” 👀😳 my head hurts already 🤦‍♂️

[@Duvstep910]

It looks so gorgeous; can't wait till I get a laptop capable enough to run dcs

[@kq399]

What is datum for in TSD UTIL PAGE ? Why its 47?

[@thereverant5203]

Finally something that can compete with Jane's Apache Longbow 1/2. Now if only someone made Apache cyclics and collectives.

[@RU1601]

Thx Matt

[@Voodooflies]

Thank you ED.

[@olischwarz2912]

mmmmmmm basic functions 👌 13:07

[@nynphose]

Cool.... but I'll just look out the window, MD made it clear for a reason. :)

[@ceeman3172]

Matt, the Apache is a Christmas gift to myself... Any chances Santa going to deliver before the end of the year. I am cool with not having George for the time being... lol

[@MattWagner]

forums.eagle.ru/topic/283298-dcs-ah-64d-faq/#comment-4787659

[@ceeman3172]

I know it got delayed, I was joking saying I will take it "as is" right now.

[@mattskiduggan]

Can't wait for this!

[@JaZoN_XD]

Holy crap, makes the A10's TAD look like child's play haha

[@twodogs2779]

Freaking cool. Is that a new map?

[@03.armandojoze77]

Dont think so it said sukhumi

[@Johnwilkinsonofficial]

numero uno 🏆

[@Thatsgonnaitchwhenitdries]

That sucks, Apache isn’t going to get MIDS?

[@MattWagner]

That would not be accurate, only the later Guardian added L16.

[@ntme9]

Pre ordered this a couple weeks ago to take advantage of the discount. Then it said Dec 15th.. Did it get pushed back or was Steam bullshitin?

[@simonhouel1984]

Damn ... if the TSD is that complicated I hope the bird is easy to fly ...

[@unsaved013]

yeah he lost me right after "hi everyone Wags here from Eagle Dynamics" This thing makes the A10 look simple

[@FabioDAngelo1972]

Great!!!

[@esquim8334]

Let's go !

[@theofficial2k650]

Waiting for my $4k virpil setup to be able to fly this. Never even played dcs either and i alr own this heli!

[@tonicarrera9647]

Another great video from Matt and the team, Only problem was, I started watching the video and then I was at 13:20, I could have sworn that I only watched a minute of high quality porn during that time. Everything was so interesting, but time just flew So sad that my pre-purchaase has been deleyed, although would rather a delay than a busted bird Can't wait ED, thanks for making what I am sure will be an awesome module for those interested in such things

[@therogerxiii]

I can't get the pilot's cursor to work properly. The CPG's works fine, but when in the pilot's seat it just slews to the top of the screen when I try to move it and stays there. I've tried remapping the controls to a different POV hat (thinking it may be the actual switch being faulty), but it still does the same thing. Help. 😫

[@MattWagner]

Please see this video, it should like an error in the control mapping. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp7Nf52EedVjgKM

[@therogerxiii]

Thanks Matt. I'll take a look.

[@therogerxiii]

@@MattWagner All sorted. I'd forgotten that I had mapped the cursor on an axis on launch day. I prefer it on a POV really, so all good again now. Thanks Matt. 👌🏻

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

I played old games like Janes AH-64D Longbow and though those were just amazing level of detail. Hmph...not even close. Compared to the DCS, those "sims" were like playing Super Mario.

[@kneecaps2000]

How does your TSD look so crisp? My cockpit looks amazing but my TSD looks lower resolution..

[@MattWagner]

You may wish to check your Options/Systems displays resolution setting.

[@kneecaps2000]

@@MattWagner Ahh thanks. Mine was set to the lowest. Great video. Thanks. Really enjoying the module too.

[@cre8ive34]

How do I get the waypoints "home plate" to show up on the Ihadss?

[@MattWagner]

Make sure you are in Transition or Cruise mode.

[@cre8ive34]

@@MattWagner thanks for the fast reply, that was it.

[@mz_eagle6]

Where is the cash desk? - I want this. now! take my money, my bike, my wife... Apache is my life.

[@horstweihrauch1]

is this module for flying or system management :D

[@MattWagner]

The TSD is certainly the most "academic" element of the -64. But, it is well worth getting to know.

[@horstweihrauch1]

@@MattWagner thanks for the explanation, Wags from ED

[@yannikgg8077]

is theire an release date?

[@mimino0125]

Sooo happy !!!!

[@gloomofficial7736]

who else is ready to learn how to start this up for three hours and then immediately crash. because i sure am

[@billpii6314]

That'w why I skip all that startup crap and get right into crashing. It saves lot of time!

[@robihobby9490]

😊👍

[@Brimmlinn]

Anyone else wising ED would put Charly Owl on staff so his amazing Chucks Guides would be ready to go with module release? I am really hoping he can get one going for the Apache soon after launch. I have a feeling we will need his assistance in learning this birds systems. :)

[@robertzurawiecki7837]

Chuck already has said he wants to remain independent for various reasons. Hard to argue with that, but it does mean he gets nothing ahead of the rest of us.

[@leewalton7403]

But... Can it play Crysis ?

[@DarkIzo]

unknown, but it will most likely be able to play doom

[@kzdcs9574]

Great now release it😐👊🏼

[@easyjet4299]

It was AH-64D, but now It becomes to AH-2077D... }:-/

[@gibbs-13]

So the release date got postponed to January 26. I hope this game doesn't end up like Cyberpunk!

[@anonymous15432]

This is a disgusting amount of detail. You should be proud of yourselves.

[@VirtualGamesPlay]

навигация эт хорошо но давай уже руление, взлёт или вообще применение вооружения по наземке и воздушным целям! *Народ уже давно ждёт Экшона против хаинда и хокума..!*

[@BlueBaron3x7]

This is what you could of been doing but not at the moment lol

[@Tcore999]

TAKE MY MMMOOONNNEEEYYY!!!!

[@TheSirBlackbird]

Donnez-nous une date de sortie s'il vous plait....

[@TheSirBlackbird]

Fin janvier 2022....

[@SsgtHolland]

It's in the description.

[@kalli71]

so when is this coming out? 2-3 months?

[@Zarma4074]

1400 views, 200 likes, WTF !!! Are you all insane ?

[@evidenceplz]

give!

[@quecksilber457]

I want it. Now. And it scares the sh*t out of me.

[@madlarkin8]

Never thought I'd say this, but I like the Russian ABRIS better.... it just seems to have better readability. This has too much clutter.

[@MattWagner]

As noted in the video, you can declutter almost everything.

[@dna8695]

let's be real ... once I get the boom-boom bound to my stick, I'm probably never pressing any of these buttons

[@spitfire4sergi]

Props to Prince Harry, wish more people would watch this just to realize how much work he must have put it to actually qualify on the Apache.

[@chucupluf14]

TSD "basics" lmao

[@complex7956]

Stop pushing back the release date

[@Thedoctv]

It happened only once

[@stephengilmore2741]

I agree - stop being a normal, respectable company and give us a product you're not entirely happy with! I demand bugs and incomplete features! NOW.

[@fightmenow2.063]

First

[@TheOfficialSethos]

Thank you for your valuable contribution to society. My God, what KZbin wouldn't be without people like you.