DCS: F-16C Viper | JDAM

[@Pricklyhedgehog72]

Another tasty digestible for consideration on the F-16's capabilities, which a lot of people have been waiting for. Not to mention the new skins and Cyprus! Thanks Wags.

[@henryoshea4951]

Greek, Turkish and Polish liveries have been around for a while, no knows they are there because everyone just flies as a US jet

[@Bricuxpl]

Viper will finally get some deserved attention. Great work ED guys, and we ask for more!

[@craigharris41]

I hope they sell the F35 and F-22 Mod. Also maybe they can make a FireFox mod.

[@Bricuxpl]

@Matt will option MARK (Mark Points) be accesable for use in patch with JDAMS? It's preety handy allowing bomb to 4 targets almost simultaneously

[@ismaelsierra3757]

@@nesseihtgnay9419 FC3 or an actual full fidelity module?

[@AliBaba-vw7mo]

@@craigharris41 what do you mean by “make a FireFox mod”?

[@Error-33]

@@craigharris41 i wish those planes werent classified it would be indirect scamming to just make up a plane and sell it as an f35 or f22 bc we dont know what or how the f22 and f35 works but at the future i hope they make a module for them when they arent classified in the future (hopefully bc idrk when or if they might get unclassified ) for now there is a f22 mod and also a f35 mod (but the f35 mod was broken for like longer than 2 months so idk if they will fix the mod it doesnt work anymore it used to but when the new update came it broke)

[@unsaved013]

"pointy end down the runway lets get going" i hear that's 100% authentic Air Force coms

[@Roofedhobo]

It may not be what pilots say, but it’s what pilots think.

[@frostycab]

It sounds like a remarkable Tim Davies thing to say (kzbin.infofeatured)

[@aarnoman1088]

Other people: Oooh JDAMS. Me: Syria map water transparency issue is fixed! :)

[@krzysztofjankowski7698]

The most important thing is the correct flight model - I look forward to the upcoming fixes :)

[@MattWagner]

As noted in the newsletter this week, we are adjusting the G and AoA, which is the actual crux of most reported FM issues.

[@thomaswhalen3703]

@@MattWagner Great to hear and look forward to future Viper development!

[@b0bl00i]

Sounds great Matt! Glad for details like this!

[@marshal1808]

I can't wait to get back into the cockpit of this amazing jet, JDAMs will make this so much more fun. Thanks

[@KevinS47]

It is SO nice to hear that you will put focus on BUG FIXING rather then just implementing new features! I know this is something you guys decided to do some time ago (because of community feedback), but I become so happy hearing it every time haha, this is going to be great!

[@mvaldman2001]

@Matt Wagner Thank you for the info on the development plan for this bird! Hope we can get the GM and GMT radar modes soon, too! 👍🏽

[@anticapitalistopossum]

So happy to hear there are more people working on the Viper! It was my first and still my favorite module. Pumped for JDAMs!

[@PepperPete11]

I love how even Wags doesn't bother with the ATC in DCS because he knows it's just garbage too. One day I hope for a much more realistic ATC for the immersion factor.

[@rajm1976]

Marianas is supposed to have a new early version of the ATC I think

[@thomasfreimuller4470]

New or much improved ATC is under development but first they overhaul the ATC for the Super Carrier modul and after that they move on for airfield ATC as well as improved radio with tanker, AWACS and JTAC. The future of DCS looks very promising 👍🏻

[@MrPhantom453]

^ This!!! Apparently in the pipeline after the carrier coms is complete. Having said that, upgraded ATC has been in the pipeline for absolutely years!!

[@Golden5er]

@@rajm1976 That was never mentioned.

[@HercNav]

This is a momentus day in ED history! C-130s have upgraded from evil to villainous! ;-)

[@IRONIC1688]

Thanks for the video, and for DCS. Important to note that for a cold start the GBU38 needs to complete an alignment. It does that with general plane alignment but it’s better to make sure RDY appears in SMS page before taxi.

[@SASCAT1972]

I continue to be amazed at what you are producing. This game has always been cutting edge and consistently produced the most incredible experiences. You guys keep at it…I’ll get back to work so I can afford the next module…LOL.

[@TrickerDCS]

Just what the f-16 needs! Thanks team 💎🚀💎🚀

[@Fireruner97]

It need mor nose auth!!!

[@_DANZIG_]

@@Fireruner97 hopefully it will get that

[@Lxcx311]

I have waited 2 years for JDAMs ^^

[@ceecrb1]

Never understood why the F16 wallpaper in game had them loaded yet we couldn't use them. Cock-teasing!

[@Lxcx311]

@@ceecrb1 yeah it mademe angry everytime i launched the game ... And in the trailers it had them too ...

[@franagorn]

@@CakePrincessCelestia and it's jdam

[@mtnmist1]

Great to hear the development plan update and the focus on refining the existing model before throwing more features at it.

[@mitoiv]

Looking good! Great to have JDAMs to F-16C.

[@bikeguy3034]

That is very welcome news to this Viper pilot Wags. Very happy you are going to focus on refining the general aircraft first also 👍

[@IThanatopsisI]

Any chance you'll implement the 'Mark' function soon?

[@nickgrey4136]

Super presentation 👍🏻thanks Matt. Kind regards Nick

[@lordlobs]

Wow, the new water looks beautiful! Thanks for the tutorial! Looking forward to more features and bug fixing for the Viper!

[@Brimmlinn]

Two videos in one day? I love it. Keep them coming!

[@SQUID_2259]

Much agreed Tricker!! Viper was definitely in need of some development team love. Thanks ED!!!

[@MrPhantom453]

I love it when we get to paste a few C-130's

[@Ventura60kts]

This module is brilliant and getting better all the time well done

[@vasvog2191]

Great news! operation Viper rolls again!!!! Great camo!!!! The cockpit needs desperately a pilot body, it kills the immersion especially in VR. Thank you, keep the nice work guys.

[@fixit9844]

Does the viper not have the toggleable pilot body? Try rshift + p

[@vasvog2191]

@@fixit9844 not yet

[@notproplayer3649]

God bless, two awesome videos in a row!

[@tinuzz88]

I really hope we will get GBU-39s one day

[@calmac938]

Ooh what are 39s?

[@zunyfolds908]

@@calmac938 small diameter bombs, essentially a mini but powerful glide bomb that u can hold 4 of on one rack. would be insane to get them in dcs for the viper

[@Golden5er]

@@zunyfolds908 Not planned...

[@xcsdjujih7466]

Razbam CLAIMS that the F15E will have them, Razbam is making F15E so we might have to wait 20 years untill we get to use them

[@xcsdjujih7466]

source: Razbam Discord

[@lilletrille8998]

Oh, I am so looking forward to using JDAMs in my F-16!!!!

[@theflyinggasmask]

Finally the F-16s turn to get some love! Can't wait for JDAMs! :D

[@mihkeltoomet213]

Good stuff Matt, and thanks for the update that Viper will now get more love. I'm now back to the Viper again. 😎

[@MilitantOldLady]

*plays Dos Gringos - JDAM Blues* Droppin' JDAM's..... :D

[@Solidboat123]

@@CakePrincessCelestia And it's JDAM!

[@Refuse2Lose33]

Even though I'm a hornet guy and haven't flown the Viper yet, this makes me want to get into the Viper cockpit even more

[@D31TCJG]

Thank you Wags! The Drought is over!

[@JayDKB]

I like the plan for the viper

[@laheu]

Eagle Cloudynamics! Viper's getting there

[@lukew2031]

Great as always! I love the Viper just as much as Hornet.. and Hind, but ... all I saw was this huge "29" on a runway. FULCRUM inbound!

[@banzaiib]

I wish the next thing they'd work on is HMCS being able to create SPI and slewing the TGP to that point. That'd completely change CAS in the DCS F-16.

[@MattWagner]

As noted this this week's newsletter, we'll be adding AG functions to the HMCS.

[@banzaiib]

@@MattWagner 2 weeks?

[@OLIV3R_YT]

Do you know if that is possible in the F/A-18C as well? I use it in the A-10CII all the time and I can't imagine CAS without it anymore ;)

[@maxneumann]

@@OLIV3R_YT pretty sure it is )

[@fortinero3361]

Glad to see FM improvements, like the need to select the correct config of CAT I or III

[@hotpocketjr7261]

Can't wait for the GBU-54 to get on the viper now

[@gumuskaplanlar757]

I was also expecting that you show us PRE mode by just entering coordinates. This video gives an impression that we need to always designate via TGP everytime.

[@MattWagner]

No, it is all based on the SPI location which can set several ways... steerpoint, HUD designation, TGP, AG radar, etc.

[@gumuskaplanlar757]

@@MattWagner So long press TMS up will override the current STPT or will generate a temporary SPI just for this shot? Thanks!

[@MattWagner]

@@gumuskaplanlar757 creating offset SPI from the steer point that acts as your cursor zero location.

[@furkadurka]

you should make a bloopers reel of any mistakes or bugs that happen while filming

[@js_models]

Love the viper! Find it drops the snake eyes long at the moment.

[@samuellortie8783]

CCIP in the viper will show you the center of the impact zone, not the beginning

[@js_models]

@@samuellortie8783 yes but for a single bomb it should hit the target. It hits if I change the fusing to low-drag. And I also have no problems with slick bombs.

[@FlyingVolvo]

Heya Wagner! As it looks right now, are there any plans to add store G-limit / speed restrictions for your flagship modules like the 16 or the 18 to prevent hung munitions in the forseeable future? Since this is a significant operational limitation, it'd be great to hear some news on it, especially since the F/A-18 is nearing feature completion. Thanks!

[@lordlobs]

That would be nice and add another layer of depth to these amazing aircraft. And would also give us a reason to switch between cat I and III.

[@krisztiangado5039]

This one sparks joy !!!!!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Thanks Wags! DDI, MPD, MFD, it’s all good! When might we see Syria updated to add Cyprus to the terrain and how long until the Mariana Islands map is ready for release?

[@matthewwagner47]

That delayed fire is interesting. You could time the delay to allow,say other bombers and fighters to deploy munitions with delays so that when the last bombing run comes in on its bomb run, time it so to ensure all the bombs explode after the final bomb drops. That could be interesting for in heavely forested areas where there's troop concentrations or a barracks area. For massive effect, shock & awe...lol

[@speeddemon2262]

Thanks again as always mr Wagner

[@Obi1-KenBone-Me]

Will we get the hsd's acquisition cursor soon?

[@tommo2944]

This brings me great joy !!!

[@outdoorgensch7330]

About the Auto Pilot 3:38: I thought it only works with both switches in combination, i.e. just setting it to "Attitude Hold" won't do anything?

[@OICWSephiroth]

Theres some kind of launch mode for Viper where you insert the coords on each bombs? Similary to Hornet PrePlane?

[@theraptorsnest5891]

Are you referring to the JDAM and JSOW? I think Wags mentioned the JSOW is upcoming! ;)

[@magwo]

There is, but it's not coming in this version it seems. Personally I don't think it's a very important feature as the steerpoint-based mode works in the vast majority of scenarios, considering you will only be dropping 4 bombs at most.

[@OICWSephiroth]

@@magwo when you said “this version” you mean this update (which i expect it’s not coming) or DCS Viper version?

[@safiuddin1997]

Thanks wags. AWESOME UPDATE

[@hunter-c3r]

Great news, thanks! cant wait for update;D

[@dogjutsufpv3813]

Can you use the TGP with the JDAM in VIS mode to designate a new SPI for the JDAMs?

[@SpecialistBR]

the VIS mode is basically a way for you to slew the SPI with the HUD marker instead of the TGP. Once you TMS UP in the HUD, the SPI acts as if you had set it with the TGP.

[@dogjutsufpv3813]

@@SpecialistBR understood, but just checking that sending target coords to the JDAM via the TGP is implemented this next release (happens to be very topical for a mission my wing has been practicing).

[@dogjutsufpv3813]

@@SpecialistBR Just saw Wags replied to another post that you can do what he did in the video to set SPI, then TGP will look to it and you can refine in TGP... so cool.

[@DoradoFever]

I wondered why they put mechanical fuzes on the nose of the jdams... usually we just use nose caps if not using the DSU-33

[@OLIV3R_YT]

Pardon my ignorance but what difference does it make?

[@DoradoFever]

@@OLIV3R_YT a redundant fuse/waste when the tail fuse is all that is needed for the JDAM. Nose plug is cheaper and the only thing needed. Also should be easier modeling for Eagle Dynamics to emulate in-game.

[@OLIV3R_YT]

@@DoradoFever thanks for the quick reply 👍

[@Golden5er]

All common nose caps are in the game already, but we can't use them for some reason.

[@leslieblack4790]

Quick question if I may please? If re-arm JDAMS once mission starts on ground ( re-arming screen) I power up and the JDAM alignment doesnt display the get the 'RDY' message until I go gear up, is this correct? I get the alignment countdown after powering up, then blank until I take off . But If I start the mission already loaded I get no countdown just 'RDY' after powering up ( even when on the ground) . Is this normal behavior please? PS the weapons actually work fine in all cases.

[@saucejohnson9862]

Did I miss something or do we not have to add the precise coords to these JDAM's?

[@b0bl00i]

Seems like they are referenced to the targeting computer of the JDAM when designating a spi. Very handy.

[@MattWagner]

It is simply based on the SPI.

[@maxineanu]

I can see VIS mode making DEAD missions so much more efficient

[@Renkovic_]

Why the TGP is not slaved to the HUD in the VIS mode ?

[@docholliday1811]

Okay I admit it, I am new to this, do you have a vocabulary list and definitional. Some of your video I have no idea what you are talking about. Great channel thank you.

[@grunejd9268]

So JDAM for viper is like Laser Guided bombs but without the need to laze and with extra options

[@jarlevanlandeghem8595]

Sort of it's GPS guided. So it don't need and laser to guide and it has an on-board guiding system that remembers the way point you set in the mission editor or with the Tpod. So that makes it an long range all whether launch and forget weapon!

[@grunejd9268]

@@jarlevanlandeghem8595wait a second i dont fully understand it. It said that it can be usen in any weather but it needs a TGP to designate a target. (Never tried it) does BHOT and WHOT mods can see throught clouds?

[@airdirtpc8019]

@@grunejd9268 you can create target points with the TGP. But I believe you will be able to set steerpoints as target points so you can never see a target but if you know the target position you can still drop the ordinance on it.

[@grunejd9268]

@@airdirtpc8019 so its useful only for attacking buildings or group of targets that dont need direct hit to be destroyed i guess

[@tinglydingle]

Is the Watermania water park fully modelled?? Give the people what they want Wags!! Looks great buddy, hope the whole team are super proud of the work they're putting out!

[@sebastiaomendonca1477]

New liveries? Looks incredible

[@MattWagner]

Nope, been integrated for a long time.

[@Spudspike]

Wags! How did the C-130 hurt you?! You seem to have an issue with the Ol' Hurc! Also the Visual mode of the JDAM in the F-16 seems like a very imprecise way to use a VERY precise weapon, I cant wait to see for myself what its all about!

[@MattWagner]

They know what they did…

[@Spudspike]

Matt Wagner LOL!!!

[@lukew2031]

@@MattWagner Packed some guns, added "A" to their designation and crept up at ED as a flyable module I guess...

[@norman191000]

A question: what would happen, if I'd enter the direction of hit for, say, 000', the opposite direction that kinetic bomb normally go. I don't think the bomb will go around target and hit it from the north :) ? Same question with minimum velocity - are there any limits to this value or, technically, how can bomb regulate it's terminal hit velocity without any sort of air brakes? In case of JSOW - it could somewhat work, but have someone tried JDAM drops with these settings? Do they work correctly in 2024?

[@TheSparrowLooksUp]

What is the intended function of setting a JDAM to a 24 hour delay? To give people time to run away?

[@thetrainshop]

Sabotage known convoy routes???? I agree it's strange

[@Pylon5Productions]

Were those some new internal sounds for the Viper as well?

[@texel9]

I noticed it too!

[@yieovgwqxaz7912]

The hornet can fire jdam with the envelope thing you don't have to follow any steering line??

[@DL-bp7jp]

Hi, you show designating with TGP. What about releasing at preplanned stpt? That is mostly the way these JDAM can be used to fire at preplanned assets.

[@MattWagner]

There is no such thing in a 2007 Blk 50 Viper. You instead can create steerpoints and set as SPIs.

[@pyramidhead9155]

Hey everyone. I seem to be missing something during startup. Whenever I select 'start from runway' or start in the air, the HAD is working fine. Whenever I do a cold start and head out, the HAD is functioning, but is not displaying any radars. My HARMs are turned on, Mastermode on, the left hardpoint switch is on (the HAD display is working), RWR power is on and threats also show up on the RWR, but they don't show up on the HAD. Is there some switch or mode I forgot to turn on at startup? Cheers.

[@EvilTea70]

NIce to see some love being given to the viper, even nicer to hear the Hornet is nearing completion too... so, regarding the '38s - target designation is only via the TGP or HUD, does that not negate the purpose of JDAMS being GPS guided and the ability to drop with the target obscured ? since it appears that you'd have to establish LOS with the TGP anyway. If didn't use the TGP would the target point be preset from the mission editor, since their was no apparent SMS LAT/LONG entry like the Hornet. ...perhaps these features will be on a later update ? - great work as always !!

[@MattWagner]

You can create a steerpoint and set that as your SPI for attack.

[@arguy3297]

You can set a steer point with the DED through the STPT button on the ICP

[@r4id1337]

Hey Wags, can you tell your ED homies to fix that fps drops in the Cockpit? Outside i have 60 fps vsynch but inside 40 to 45. Thanks

[@Brody961]

Please increase the G tolerance in the F16 as well. Much needed.

[@alphacars796]

Hey man awesome work on the video!! Quick question, will the F-22 Raptor or the F-35 ever be added to the game??

[@MattWagner]

No such plans.

[@alphacars796]

@@MattWagner would be amazing if one of those aircraft were added.

[@Lorian667]

This is really great! I love it :-)

[@Mrv9019]

Will this update offers flight model improvement

[@b0bl00i]

Thanks a lot for sharing some long wanted news on the Viper. If I understand the implementation correctly, designate target 1 for let's say station 3 JDAM 1, change to weapon 2 on station 3 new target designation,rinse repeat for station 7 weapons. Approach release area, pickle 4 Jdams in one sweep? Boom goes for targets?

[@dogzero1]

Hi Matt. Could you give us your graphics settings please? Yours looks really crisp and detailed.

[@MattWagner]

Please see About section.

[@dogzero1]

@@MattWagner Where is the about section Matt?

[@MattWagner]

@@dogzero1 at the top of the channel page.

[@sixaout1982]

Is it normal to have a CAT III holding point for the runway but no CAT I?

[@LtFalcon]

Can we expect JPF-fuze functionality with initial release too, or is that something for the future when some sort of modular bomb functionality gets added?

[@lasselahti4056]

Just bought f-16 yesterday. Most of the A/G trainers are totally undoable because wpn triggers dont work or some other thing does not work in sms etc. A/a training missions have mission triggering (HOX! in mission itself triggers, different that A/G WPN-triggers, which also does not work) problems (they go to next step before have done ANYthing about anything (shoudl trigger after shooting stuff, well you get it..). But weirdest is that I trialed about 5 months ago viper, and back then was same thing: No AG (Weapon-) triggers working, and many of wpn controls / settings are more or less messed up. Is this going anywhere, any clue? Just for interest: Are those Jxxx (jdam; jsow) somehow different by triggers while dropped like from hornet, while they do work in hornet flawlessly (the triggers, or at least I can change em... :) ) I might sound moran, but why dont they work suddenly in f-16? Is it just f-16 buttons / displays that are not working, or is there somekind of renewal going on in DCS OB ? Do these work in non ob version? But yeah. Pretty dissapointed that first topics ppl wondering this are from 2 years ago, and still they dont work. I think it is fair to ask this, while paying full price on product. Yes I know it is beta but.. Sry for my "rally" english - Finnish ppl... :D

[@dimitristaessens2912]

Something looks different... Is this the new Vulkan API in action?

[@sloppydog4831]

Comrad Wags has just defected! :-o

[@psvialli]

Is it just me as I can only get singles loaded I cannot find a 2x GBU38 in the list ?

[@MattWagner]

Check under the BRU-57 options.

[@psvialli]

@@MattWagner OMG how did I miss that many thanks

[@therealtjpek]

Wags taking off with nws on the whole way, have me anxiety 😂

[@AllisterCaine]

Is this not moderated speed dependent? Sounds like bad things waiting to happen.

[@ravagetalon]

Is there a way to do pre-planned attacks independent of Steer points (i.e. like PP mode in the hornet?)

[@MattWagner]

You can create new steerpoints to act as SPIs. Viper IAM PP is more like the Hornet TOO mode than PP.

[@theaceofspades485]

The 2000ibs JDAMS seem to have a much better chance to hit. The BRU-57 - 500ibs bombs took me 4 attempts. I am not sure if they are just less accurate or if the 2k ibs bombs just do more splash damage. The one that hit directly had a the shortest flight time.

[@deadpooleo18]

I am so confused, are the SPI and steerpoint linked or are they separate points?

[@MattWagner]

They can be, or a designation point via the HUD, TGP, or AG radar.

[@Jax_Malren]

Will our block 50's recieve the JHMCS? I figured they would since the hornet has the JHMCS and after doing research on them they both seem to have gotten this jhmcs upgrade with first upgrades happening around September of 1995. * I do not know how accurate this info is* it was pulled from multiple sites saying late 1995 and some others saying early 2000's

[@Jax_Malren]

So are they going to implement where you can see friendlies and enemies like in the f18 and where like it shows on the manufacturers website for the JHMCS

[@David_Martinez_USA]

Love my F-16

[@jimmy8x541]

can you guys please fix the JDAMs? it is currently impossible to hit pre-planned targets that are input via coordinates. this is a huge issue and it has been going for 6 months since the april patch! it is completely impossible to use JDAMs in the Viper unless you have line of sight on the target with TGP! this invalidates the purpose of a GPS guided munition . . . and makes some campaign missions impossible to complete!

[@MattWagner]

I don't recall seeing such an issue in a long time, so I just tested in the public build in both air start and ramp start. In both cases, the IAM landed within the expected 5m CEP. Please post a track to our F-16 support forum and we can help you determine where you are going wrong. Thanks.

[@CaptainMetalwing]

What about TOO using the pod? Is that possible in the F16 or something to come later?

[@CaptainMetalwing]

@@mobius7089 it looked like preplanned in the video, I thought he was just using the pod for battle damage assessment.

[@zachhenshaw6377]

What sound mod do you have on your F-16C wag. I can tell it sounds very different lol.

[@MattWagner]

We have tuned the higher AoA and wind-over-canopy sounds effects for a later update.

[@mikkelsrensen5125]

Is there a function that makes you able to drop multiple bombs that hit separate targets in one pass and if not, will it be added?

[@MattWagner]

Based on our available documents, no.

[@MattWagner]

Bit of a cludge, but I don’t see why not. Just note that it is not as capable as the Hornet in this regard.

[@scarletlightning565]

Why would you want to delay a JADAM for up to a day? Like what's the mission objective that requires that?

[@MattWagner]

Makes airfield repair more difficult.

[@wiesenbefeuchter]

What about the CBU-105 ?

[@cerealsam7634]

MFD* Multi Functional Display MPD Multi Purpose Display is for F-15s

[@nynphose]

So the azimuth would be in relation to the actual target and you would choose the magnetic or true heading into which the JDAM would attempt to fly itself to the target point?

[@oznckr]

Is this update live? Can't see them ingame. Edit: O yeah I heard very near future in the end this time :D