DCS Mi-24P Hind-F First Impressions & Should You Buy?

[@Spudknocker]

Hey guys! I never thought I would like a helicopter as much as I love the Mi-24P! For you fixed wing guys, I definitely reccomend checking her out! There's definitely issues with the AI and some flight model bugs but other than that its a very solid and visually beautiful module!

[@pablolozoyaparada5260]

Sir, what are exactly those Flight Model bugs? I've flown it, and to me it feels right. Maybe I'm missing something? Thanks so much.

[@getsideways7257]

Indeed, it exceeded my expectations by far. And I thought nothing could rival the Huey in terms of flight model enjoyability.

[@pablolozoyaparada5260]

@@getsideways7257 Absolutely. I'm quite sure @Spudknocker is a bit confused in regards to what may be considered a Flight Model issue/bug. Thanks very much for the video anyway!!.

[@getsideways7257]

@@pablolozoyaparada5260 Errrm, let's not be too harsh here... After all he admitted it himself that this is his first foray into helicopters and he learned to fly one basically yesterday. Coming from fixed wing some of helicopter peculiarities might indeed come out as "bugs".

[@pablolozoyaparada5260]

@@getsideways7257 Absolutely, I didn't want to be harsh at any point. I'm sorry, English is not my native language and sometimes those misunderstandings happen. I just wanted to say that maybe then it's better not to be so much conclusive when someone is new to a field, and making conclusions about something that much technically specific. No offense was intended at any point. Thanks for noting and advising.

[@Ryak84]

0:35 "It is the very first attack helicopter modeled in DCS World" DCS Ka-50 : Am i a joke to you?

[@theonefrancis696]

He probably meant gunship.

[@Power5]

@@theonefrancis696 ka50 is everything the hind is, just newer helo. Hind only brings troop transport to the table. But both can fire atgm, rockets, bombs, and cannons.

[@jacobdenning9759]

It was hurting me internally lol my Blackshark is everything

[@Power5]

@@jacobdenning9759 yes this is a conundrum. Love the Black shark but being able to fly a Hind is on another level. But can't really snipe from 8km with the Hind like in the BS. But flying the Hind has been fairly easy. Now to learn how to employ it. BS is easy to just hang back out of range and soften up the target before running in. I suppose similar can be done with the sturms???

[@jacobdenning9759]

@@Power5 I totally agree. The Hind is an absolute blast to fly. Cool weapons, good flight model, fast are just some of the Awesome parts of the Hind. But the Blackshark's difficulty is what made it my favorite. The Blackshark is insanely stable yet, only does what it wants to do. The weapons are fun and easy to fire but just getting to the enemy is a challenge for some on the Blackshark. The Hind for me just feels to easy to fly. But that's personal opinion and the module is Absolutely FANTASTIC.

[@SkyGuy-gr2zc]

The Mi 24 Hind kinda reminds me of a Republic LAAT Gunship, can carry troops into battle and has hella weapons

[@Spudknocker]

This LAAT’s in Star Wars are based off of the Mi-24. George Lucas has even said that’s why the inspiration for them came from

[@Rokaize]

Been flying the mi24 a ton since it hit early access. A few things. 1. Petrovich is still very much a work in progress. He doesn’t identify vehicles, hel simply say “tank”. Which could mean anything from a pt76 to an abrams. He also doesn’t distinguish between friendly and enemy vehicles which is immensely frustrating in CAS missions and you must be extremely careful as to who you have him target. He also struggles terribly with identifying targets in low light. Forget sunrise or sunset missions. He literally cannot see any of the targets on the ground and you can fly as close as you want. He still won’t see them in order to target them. He also won’t warn you of missile launches from manpads or help you land like a real hind gunner would do. He won’t even tell you if he hit his target or not. 2. The mi24 is famous for its durability. But it isn’t invincible. The hind is designed to take fire from the front. The tail boom and tail rotor aren’t armored. The cockpit glass is only armored in the front of the pilot and gunner. The pilot and gunner wear a huge and very protective helmet to protect themselves from rounds entering the side cockpit glass. Even then, the frontal armor is only really meant for at most 23mm. Can it protect you from 30mm? Yeah, a bit. But it is not at all designed to be taking hits from large caliber weapons Even if one of your engines fails the other will automatically pick up to compensate. The hind is perfectly capable of making it back to base with one engine. Or in some cases even complete its mission. Check the panel near the bottom left of the cockpit. Near the landing gear switch. It has the backup systems including the backup hydraulics and the emergency backup landing gear lever. The hind has backups for basically every system. Making it exceptionally good at resisting catastrophic damage. Near the fire extinguisher panel is the fire extinguisher control switches. There are many of these and they work well. No reason your hind should be on fire for more than a few seconds until you hit the correct switch to put out the fire.

[@5113130]

Should I buy? Hopefully, because I already did LOL

[@Spudknocker]

hahaha oops!

[@caduguimaraes]

Rich guy

[@Jojooooooo]

@@caduguimaraes not necessarily, just because you can buy a module doesn't immediately label you as rich.

[@Spudknocker]

Jojo I think he was joking haha

[@gamer-1100]

Are there heli pads on the Caucasus map? I don't have the Syria map.

[@harritudur176]

it has never been an option to not buy a DCS Mi-24!

[@andrewchr]

Just to clarify. The Cypriot Mi-35P variant was never used in the 74' Turkish invasion. Cyprus acquired 12 of these in mid 2000s. One crashed in Russia during training, which killed the Cypriot pilot and Russian trainer. This particular CY Mi-35P export variant came with the 30mm gun, 4 pylons instead of 6, fixed landing gear, and SAR equipment.

[@Raven-sv4es]

I'm not a virtual chopper pilot too, but sitting in the pilot seat of that bad boy.... you feel like "Yeah, let's kick some ass!"

[@Spudknocker]

That is for sure!

[@PepperPete11]

You didn't say "Spudknocker here...as always". I feel kinda crushed. :(

[@theonefrancis696]

He's leaving us. 😭😭

[@hellcat611]

I noticed this too. I'm pretty despondent.

[@GreyMaulkin]

Perhaps he is growing...or evolving....or mutating!!!!

[@dannydillard7406]

You made me buy it. The next thing you know, I'll be buying the Mig-21 and having to learn Russian. Thanks man.......

[@Spudknocker]

Welcome to the Red Side, Comrade...

[@Rhinozherous]

Awesome as always, thank you! Just a few tipps I already learned: The map is just a piece of paper the pilot can switch out. No rolling background. The only moving thing is the marker I think. In the startup it seems to be better to let the "AIRSPEED SNSR TO DOPPLER" switch in off position as it is a backup system, the navigation on the map seems to be way off with this in on position. Autopilot is not working correctly with "AUTOSTOPS" switch in off position. To seal the cockpit the wheel has to be turned full counter clockwise and the warning beside it goes off after a few seconds.

[@mayuthecop]

The Mi-24 has been a good EA release, mostly because they already had a lot of systems already from the HIP, and because its an old tech. They should focus more more of these older planes and chopper releases because its easier to get them out of EA, like the Mi-24 I doubt it would stay in EA longer than a year, and keep modern jets development longer so they avoid F-16 releases.

[@krispyk.1786]

I hope we can get the su-17 for a red plane cuz that swing wing beast is the Mi-24 of the supersonic realm essentially 👀

[@TOMCATnbr]

My first comrade module, and definitely no regret. She's really a pure russian beast.

[@Spudknocker]

OUR first comrade module****

[@getsideways7257]

@@Spudknocker Well, there are MiG-15bis, MiG-19P and MiG-21bis, not to mention the "Ishak" and the Yak.

[@seuqcaj89]

To our first Comrade module!

[@bazej1080]

Technically not even Russian, but Soviet beast! Which is even more hardcore comrade, with it's green interior and powerful air conditioning system.

[@arguy3297]

You guys don't have the MiG 21? SHAME ON YOU!!

[@Parabueto]

The Hind hasn't dampened my desire for the Kiowa or Apache, but it really does scratch that itch for strafing things on the ground, with the guided missiles easy to use and nice for squashing AAA. It is straightforwards to use as well so it's nice if you don't want to think too hard about things. As a background I spend quite a lot of time scouting in the Gazelle L. Which is great and flying with others I'll probably still fly it a lot but it's only really good for strafing unarmed vehicles and only one or two afvs. It gets cut to pieces really easily which isn't great so it really can't operate alone, so I get frustrated when I get the uge to go strafing in a helicopter. The M is cool but the laser rangefinder's broken and you have a 50m safety buffer between your range and the range of barrel launched ATGMs so where you have to hover stationary often you just get killed ow with the Gazelle M facing off against tanks. On the Hind you can still jink as you're deploying missiles, which is nice (although obviously you have to stay still as possible as it gets close to give best chance of a hit). So it's nice to go to a mission site and blast it to bits without help.

[@mihajlovucinic011]

happy now with the apache? :D

[@DraxTheDestroyer]

I watched this before finalizing my decision on buying it, thanks for going into detail and keeping it fun with shooting live targets!

[@martinethson]

First of all. Turks invaded Cyprous in the 70s not 90s. Also they got the 24s about 20 years ago and they did not fight in the invasion.

[@oldmanfunky4909]

Pro Tip for buying a DCS Helicopter, Ask yourself: "Do I own rudder pedal's?" - A: "Yes" Then buy DCS Helicopter! B: Answer is "No" Than perhaps hold off and buy rudder peddles first! I suggest the MFG Crosswinds.

[@theshinken]

Very used saitek pedals from over 10 years ago is all I can give you. Still a yes?

[@PappyGunn]

I have a Warthog HOTAS. I use one of the engine throttles for the tail rotor. It give you the fine control you need for helos. I tried just about everything, twist sticks don't have the fine control. Anyways, it's good advice: You can't fly a helo without some kind of fine control for the tail rotor.

[@krispyk.1786]

Thrustmaster has neato teeter totter yaw control that works as a very smooth yaw control

[@Chrinik]

It's also an amazing module to come out with the 14 day free trial system, because the operator seat is easy to learn, doesn't require track IR or a hotas (I know the helicopter can be flown from there, but you know what I mean) and it's now free...so it's a good way to get some friends in there that do not want to splash hundreds of bucks to "try" DCS full fidelity ...

[@AvengerBB1]

She's a beast... Don't have the cash right now for her, but that's what the free trial thing is for.

[@therocinante3443]

I'm pretty happy about this, new modules are always happy. However, I'm most looking forward to the Apache ;)

[@Hellfire0220]

For those wondering, the 'CCIP' is done with AoA,Alt, and Speed. If you are erratic in your approach it will be inaccurate. You want to put the Cross hairs on your target, and hold it there until the Yellow light on the opposite side of the green, turns on. That is 'Authorized to fire light'. ALSO Spud is VERY scared of a blade stalls, but you can go WAY faster and be MORE AGRESSIVE than he was. It is not like the Huey's VRS, the Heli will simply begin to ROLL to the right(@350), and all you have to do is Input right rudder, and keep her level. Be calm, Even if you ignore her and roll Her over. Keep the blades level, Keep the nose level as gently as you can, and the engines will probably die, but if you glide for JUST afew seconds, they'll wind back up and you are good to go. The Mi24P is just as tough as the A10C

[@Ddg-mi5cs]

Early cobra in nam do exactly the same as the hind, even many late variants in 80’s,because of those technology limits

[@arekpawlik7013]

Do not turn on the Doppler airspeed switch on the left panel as it is broken atm. It works backwards so down is on and up is off.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

oh no, crud

[@satchking6861]

Very first attack helicopter modeled in dcs you say? Sharks gonna get ya

[@jakubdabrowski3846]

And Gazzelle can carry guided missiles too, so we can call her a "light attack helicopter".

[@TotalFreakUK]

The Turkish invasion of Cyprus was 1974 me old mucker, not the 90's

[@Spudknocker]

Well messed that one up… oh well haha

[@eclipticsim]

This video will be my guide as to whether I buy the module. Thanks

[@Spudknocker]

Awesome!

[@facethefrontier]

Probably yes if Hind Ops is your kind of mission type. It's pretty awesome.

[@reillybrangan2182]

Just download it and try it for free for 2 weeks. Make your own decision

[@releasethekraken5039]

Helicopters with fixed forward firing guns are underrated as hell. Choppers like the ah-6 littlebird with it's 2 mini guns or the cobra with a mounted 20mm vulcan are cool as hell. The gun on the Hind P takes the cake though. Its like an a-10 that can hover and deploy troops.

[@hornetsnest1296]

The only Desync issues I have had in MP is when the Operator releases flares he is the only one that sees it. If the pilot releases flares it is visible to all. Random wobbles are present but that depends on the ping of the pilot from what I have seen.

[@OfficialUSKRprogram]

Thank you for making us feel smarter, spud

[@emossg]

Pre order gang reporting in!

[@pjefferson2011]

Here👋😜

[@thebiggestoneyouveverhad]

Should I buy? I hit that pre-purchase button the day it went up...

[@michaelvansise4887]

That fan looks like it is using the fancy motion blur tech that was recently added to the warbirds. :)

[@krispyk.1786]

Wouldn’t be surprised 😂

[@richardhockey8442]

Petrovich voice lines: 'Yuri, where's the vodka?'

[@zanphore2489]

I preordered the Hind in my opinion its a perfect cross between an apache and an a-10.

[@headiii_plays]

More like KA-50 and SU-25T xD But I get what you're meaning

[@lucaallemann5941]

@@headiii_plays *su-25A

[@jakubdabrowski3846]

Yes, but without precisie targeting systems of both.

[@zanphore2489]

@@jakubdabrowski3846 I can say that I'm definitely happy with her :)

[@zanphore2489]

@@headiii_plays Yea i definitely see the KA-50 I don't have enough time on the SU-25 I mainly fly the A-10 :)

[@artyboy1377]

The first thing i noticed was how similar it flies to the Mi-8MTV2 but surprisingly much more steady/stable as in it doesnt drift that much nor does it go berserk too easily if i oversteer. Not really buyer's remorse but it seems just too similar to the Mi-8MTV2 but then again im a sucker for helicopters and this one seems to be easier to fly. I just wish i could completely remove the mirrors in cockpit view (and also the HUD lines).

[@TacticalOni]

Systems wise the 24 was built on the bones of the 8. It's part of the reason a lot of us were flying the 8 to prep for the 24. The stub wings really help stabilize and settle it more than any of us anticipated

[@feastguy101]

It’s a lot faster than the mi8, but I can see what you’re saying.

[@jakubdabrowski3846]

Hello Spudknocker, I found Hind a little easier to fly than Gazzelle, since the latter doesn't have a trimmer at all and is much lighter. But the important thing is, how to set up and tune axis, especially for the rudder input. What about the curvature and saturation? Rudder input can't be over-sensitive since it makes flying at low speeds a real challenge.

[@krispyk.1786]

20-30 curvature is good for a twist grip - 15-25 for a rocker type yaw control - 0-5 for rudder pedals

[@jexmatex]

Nice video Spud what is your screen reference ? looks like a nice ratio to fly with

[@chadvader974]

Do you have a video on how to use the troop transport features of this helicopter? Are they even in yet?

[@Morrov]

12:00 make sure AIRSPEED TO DOPPLER stays OFF. It will mess up your moving map display.

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

"wish you could shade the lamp with your hand to see if it's lit" perhaps they could do this. an anti-flashlight. makes a region less lit.

[@LitlBlackDragonNinja]

Is it possible to play this helicopter with just M&KB? I tried some free modules such as the CH47 and it has no flight control but everything else does work. I am wondering whether this module gives you the ability to fly with M&KB, just like the other modules like MiG-29.

[@Federation42movies]

@2:23 Cypriot is pronounced "Sih-pree-ut", rather than "Sai-pree-ut".

[@davidtsw]

My first helicopter. Probably not the best choice lol, the learning curve is steep, but once I realized that the throttle levers need to be left in the middle position, flying is easier now :)

[@davidlawrence3230]

What are your sensitivity settings, because it is so difficult nearly all the time. I have constant control issues with uncontrollable movement to the left on the vertical axis.

[@TAWSlautter]

Thank you Spud for the video.

[@Brimmlinn]

Im 21 minutes in. Does Spud ever put the gear up? :)

[@Chrinik]

9 minutes later 😂

[@prichardgs]

Great! I enjoy flying this monster.

[@richardaal3085]

Hey. Do you have manuals for this aircraft?

[@aetlaa]

You forgot the fan, (wait, you did it later…) environment condition systems, and the aircraft did not pressurize on your startup. (A couple of those are critical, especially the fan)

[@skylighterrhd4073]

Question is this on Console? I doubt it but if so how do I go about starting this game? I mean the level of detail is insane! I know little about air craft but I'm very interested. I'm coming from BF3 and 4 dogfights and this is a completely different animal! I'm just blown away with each video.

[@theshinken]

It's on PC only and you can test every aircraft including this one for 2 weeks. PC has to be somewhat decent but you can do it on like a 4-5 years old gaming machine if you keep the settings low. Also it's almost impossible with mouse and keyboard only and hard with a controller - made for joysticks. Maybe you can borrow one - lots of older gamers still have one from back in the day ^^. If you got that I'd give it a try. Pick a cool aircraft, watch some KZbin tutorials, try to replicate it. It's more like learning an instrument like a piano or violin than your usual videogame that can be understood in a minute but also much more rewarding. That said, Microsoft Flight Simulator comes to Xbox in a couple weeks. It's not cool military aircrafts but still a good way to get a feel how it's like to play a serious flight sim. DCS is a bit more hardcore than that even if you put MSFS on full tryhard realism mode but you still see if it's your cup of tea.

[@ilejovcevski79]

Definitely the manliest helicopter ever built!

[@mrflaregamer]

ironically the mi8s rotor brake was the only thing i forgot for its entire startup on my first cold start

[@theonefrancis696]

Mixed feelings about this. The Hind is a brutal machine and the current features are enough to keep us entertained for hours and hours. Didn't really notice any big glitches apart from a glitchy trimmer and unresponsive Petrovich. BUT The lack of a campaign, the shallowness of the CMS system and the bare tutorials don't really feel like it's worth the full price. I suggest everyone to play the free trial and decide. It will become amazing though, that I'm sure of.

[@GasMask_Boio7105]

from what i heard, most hind pilots had their gear down due to the fact when they needed to do emergency landings, now the problem was is that when it was up it took too long to get out, so having your gears down would most likely be better as you wouldn't have much of a hard landing. I can't quite remember, but i do believe there were versions that had the gear stowed remove.

[@phoenixsui]

The multicrew problem i have with all other helicopters as well. I think its not on the module but generally a problem still. Tried Gazelle and Huey Multicrew. Hope they will fix it latest with apache odule. The Hind is pretty cool but it will take me some time to learn it.

[@hamishthecat4370]

Hey Spud, I was gonna buy the Mi-24 but thought it might be too much in resemblance of the Mi-8, so I'm going to hang out for the Ah-64D.

[@Swift41]

every since dayz watching the runningman back in the day i always wanted to fly hind but never had a pc the time hase come

[@WARDUKE_USMC]

What head tracking hardware do you use?

[@40bc47]

TrackIR

[@dabneyoffermein595]

The Huey is a great helicopter.

[@krispyk.1786]

It’s pretty great - but I gotta say this heli feels much more stable and smooth sometimes

[@DynamixTV]

This looks really really cool!

[@Power5]

Have not seen a video using the cannon yet. I assume it doesn't work. I jumped in and had no idea how to turn on weapons but a 30mm cannon was definitely what I wanted to try at the training range. Unfortunately my only option was to land my Hind in a newly created hind sized crater at cruising speed. This thing will make the apache feel like a f-18 compared to a warbird. Honestly easy to employ in a battlefield situation. Really just point and shoot. As for the joystick, I really miss my g940 FFB stick. Got that when ka50 first came out. When it finally had to be replaced I missed it for helos. Being able to trim and stick just stayed in position was intuitive. Centering sticks ALWAYS wobble when releasing the trimmer button.

[@notproplayer3649]

So you didn't manage to fire the gun? What doesn't work? Perhaps you're experiencing a bug? Because it definitely is possible if everything is set up right. If you want to hear my personal opinion of it I'd say the gun is the highlight of the mi24's weaponry, I literally use it like a sniper seeing how the gun is just so precise and easy to aim with the sight.

[@Power5]

I had just jumped in without watching or reading anything. Like a kid on Christmas. Figured I would figure it all out. So while I was getting to grips with the flight model I was also fumbling with all the switches did not prove very useful. I watched a few videos and found the Russian equivalent of the "master arm" switch. 🤣 Only bug was user error. 🤣

[@notproplayer3649]

@@Power5 haha, that's the spirit ! It was feeling like Christmas for me too, except I watched Matt Wagner's introduction videos to the hind a million times before so I somewhat knew what I was doing ; )

[@feastguy101]

You assume incorrectly, it works... and it’s beautiful

[@wumbo9082]

Question: Does Peetrovich Ai have ANY Voicelines? Like JEster AI?

[@headiii_plays]

They want to implement 2 voices one for the gunner and one for the pilot. Both with russian and english voice lines.

[@hmleao]

Can you you do night ops with it?

[@victoraxelsson9998]

Do you like flying straight, are you scared by turning? Then the hind is the helicopter for you

[@getsideways7257]

Maybe just learn to turn?

[@getsideways7257]

That said, I haven't tried it with the SAS crap on, maybe that's what is getting in the way...

[@feastguy101]

You need to turn it almost like an airplane... the wings are giving a lot of the lift at high speeds

[@jacobdenning9759]

Nobody talks about the Shark anymore smh

[@XxTRUEPINOYxX14]

I’m just waiting for my Apache

[@joefrwy]

How about a video giving suggestions for controller setup (T.16000FCS, Warthog, etc.)?

[@burnttoast111]

Pedals. You really want pedals for any helo in DCS (not quite as important for the Black Shark), as a stick twist will become really annoying, imho. Other than that, the best stick/throttle you are willing to pay for. And some type of head tracking, either through VR, TrackIR, or the budget FaceTrackNoIR option.

[@burnttoast111]

One other word of advice, avoid Saitek, IMHO. A cheaper controller that breaks much more frequently can become a lot more expensive in the long run. So you will want to do some research.

[@burnttoast111]

@AesirHunter Those look really good, especially if you have a brake lever in front of your stick / cyclic.

[@stalhuth]

I notice when you play as RED coalition Petrovich can't see any OTAN BLUE target

[@theonefrancis696]

I've found out that Petrovich can't tell an enemy from a friend, it literally shoots everything. I hope they implement some sort of IFF soon.

[@masterhighground3677]

Vne is not really an issue, you can easily go 330 without issues(well you won’t hit that speed with full rockets ofc but still)

[@julianmorrisco]

I’m curious, genuinely. Is the KA50 not considered an attack heli, or do you mean 2 man attack helis - like the Apache or KA52, or indeed, the hind?

[@higaluto]

40:44 what was that

[@mro9466]

"Should You Buy?" me: _too late_

[@Spudknocker]

LOL! Sorry I didnt get it out earlier for you! haha

[@man_vs_life]

There's something missing from this vid, as always, so to speak.

[@qthemerrybandofanons4481]

Its cool, especially with multi-crew, but the KA-50 is so much better IMO, gimbal mounted gun, can carry way more ATGM's, way better NAV system.

[@michaelvansise4887]

The KA-50 is a straight up newer aircraft, of course it is objectively "better." Some of us like the old beaters for their own sake, DCS covers a wide range of eras.

[@JIMJAMSC]

I have most the planes and all the helis and can jump from each one not killing myself but only really would say I am capable in 6. Of those I consider being "type rated" in the 16, Harrier and all warbirds. Anyone who has a deep knowledge of most and are looking to tackle the Mi 24 and waiting for the Apache should consider joining the military. Evenwith aTM hotas, custom keyboard and a additional mappable pad I can get totally confused.

[@Johnny641]

What are you having trouble with ?? other than the AI there isn't really anything extra to be mapped, I have the TM warthog as well, I put Petro AI on the TMS hat and Observe on DMS down. For showing the AI menu I use the pinky button, for looking through the gunners sight I use the missle step button on the side. I fly in VR so I try and avoid using the keyboard where possiple, I use left ctrl as a modifier and then use my hotas for the extra binds like knee board etc.. These I try and keep the same for all modules. Flying can quite a be a little tricky , I trim out before the hover check which I find easier. For landings I treat it like the MI8, I have VRS a couple (ok more than a couple!) but now getting the hang on how much I can push the decent. I think the thing that can be catching people out is the tail rotor, the hind uses pedal dampners so you can get out of wack with pedal movement, you have to be quite slow on the pedals. You can turn off the damper, its under a red safty switch on the front panel, left side (just above the main rotor RPM guage) This then makes the pedals move in time with your own pedals (might help a bit).

[@getsideways7257]

In case you are forgetting, there are also people too old for the military (or just not having good enough health).

[@jr0815_aka_gulredrel]

@spudknocker: Training with Casmo paid off I guess :-)

[@virtual812]

Good thing hot starts are not modelled in this!

[@cultusmechanicus8001]

I wish i had the Chin Turret :(

[@bhishmaMbt]

Approved!

[@tomriley5790]

First attack helicopter - Black Shark - am I nothing to you? :-(

[@getsideways7257]

That's not a helicopter.

[@tomriley5790]

@@getsideways7257 what is it?

[@getsideways7257]

@@tomriley5790 It's a Kamov scheme... thing. Not to mention it was never really fielded. Although Ka-52 is not much more of a helicopter either. Edit: that's right, I think I have a good description for it - a manned drone (if that makes any sense).

[@tomriley5790]

@@getsideways7257 it's a helicopter with contrarotating main rotas, negating the need for a tail rota. It's still a helicopter.

[@getsideways7257]

@@tomriley5790 And it flies like a drone. You can call it what you wish, but it makes absolutely no sense of ED to include it in DCS while it's taking them forever with other relatively modern Soviet/Russian equipment. And at the very least it should have been Ka-52 instead. Better yet, a Mi-28.

[@subjectc7505]

Can't Eagle ask the countries that owns the certain Aircrafts? Like they can ask Indian can they use the SU-30 MK1? Or that Russian law works for all? And I can't wait to try the Hind, when we're able to get gaming pc parts. I been wanting to get into Dcs for a while, Arma 3 had been my dcs 😹.

[@theonefrancis696]

Every country has specific laws about top secret military files. I'm honestly surprised that Russia allowed the Hind to be developed, considering it's still in use in so many countries.

[@subjectc7505]

@@theonefrancis696 I'm surprised they did it for the KA-50 as well, I wonder what's so secret about the rest like the SU-30.

[@theonefrancis696]

@@subjectc7505 well the Ka50 is a retired chopper, it was replaced by the Ka-52 after the Chechen Wars. The Sukhoi are still widely employed by the Russians and that's why we don't have any clicky-clicky jets so far, unlike the Western aircrafts. They are very jealous of their progress with aviation.

[@subjectc7505]

@@theonefrancis696 I mean, the Su-30 is a awesome Aircraft, well the Indian version and it's not like we're going to steal it😹. I think the Hind was just enough for use to research. But I see why, I hope they'll open up. I wanna try the Havoc and the have a full clickable Sukhois and Mig.

[@quadg5296]

@@theonefrancis696 you have US air force pilots training Iraqi pilots to fly their new mi-35. if the US military has instructors in the airframe then its a waste of time to ban it from the game. that ship has sailed. take the taxes from ED instead. something like 30 privately owned mi-24 in the US.

[@pierrelofinusound3020]

Excellent skills ! .............aaaas always ! ;-)

[@ImKindaPanda]

Feel you need to do more research and understanding before pushing a video out history incorrect your understanding of current dcs helicopters is off your putting out incorrect information. Come on your better than that

[@Lagmaster33]

Mi-24 is an oppressor? You mean a conflict resolver? :)

[@burnttoast111]

Yeah... The US has been known to 'liberate' people from democracies. I'd much prefer to put down the Kool-Aid and flags, and just enjoy a sweet helicopter.

[@DeathBlossom867]

A single Mi-24 flown by a South African pilot prevented rebels from destroying Sierra Leone while the UN watched and did nothing and prevented the fall of Syria to ISIS. I'd say it's a symbol of freedom and progress. :)

[@burnttoast111]

@@DeathBlossom867 Sierra Leone's government was less bad than the rebels, but they were hardly 'good guys'. Ditto for Assad's regime vs ISIS in Syria. The only real symbol of freedom and progress in Syria were the Kurds, IMHO.

[@ollyk22]

No the map is not microfiche, it is a standard paper map with a crosshair that moves.

[@facethefaceandmore44]

"A symbol of communist oppression". Come on, man. I'm not even Russian but you could literally make that same argument about every US module from the Mustang to the A10 and F/A18 (in the latter case probably even more so by the rest of the world). Let's keep politics out of DCS, however casually referenced. It's a fun game we like to play, with Russian, US and European servers, developed as a collaboration between Russians and Americans.

[@Air-Striegler]

"For US in the West... a symbol of comunist oppression" 🤣🤣🤣 Hilarious!!! You really got me there. You could have made it perfect however by pointing out that for "us in the West" 🤣 the Huey is a "symbol of love, freedom and democracy" that "we in the West” generously spread over Vietnam just to mention one....

[@notproplayer3649]

When I hear that I see the Hollywood "bringing democracy and freedom" type propaganda in my mind. Stereotypical for sure. It is just a bit absurd from my point of view as my fellow neighboring countries fly and actively use the hind without ever even taking notice of the fact that "the hind is cold war soviet equipment so it must be the helo of the bad guys" mentality that some genuinely believe applies to most people ("for US in the west"). Yeah, for sure, I see where he's coming from, this way to describe the hind is quite stereotypical for a lot of people but for some this stereotype is quite distant from the truth. No offense to spudknocker of course, I just wanted to comment what I thought of that.

[@PepperPete11]

You forgot to put up your landing gear. :)

[@kentyannayon3741]

Fortunately this new free to play program makes "should I buy?" a much, much easier question to answer. I'm going to pass on the Hind until we're getting 50% sales on it, but only because I'm committed to getting the Apache, and can't get both on this timeline.

[@harpoon_bakery162]

is this a helicopter I should avoid like the plague until they get the AI figured out? I would like to fly this single-pilot with some AI if it's working. But I don't care whether I am in front or back. I just want to join my buddies who fly the KA-50's and I will provide support for them in the HIND just by myself What is the best way to go about this knowing that the Hind is updated to 10 March, 2023 up to this point and that I will be having to learn the systems and flight dynamics in order to be able to just fly this beast, much less have to understand the weapons systems. Any AI that can be used for that is a bonus for sure. Or should I just stay away from this tangled web of wires and complicated systems? Any help is appreciated!!!!! So in other words, should this be only used if I have two real people flying it?

[@viktorthebird6115]

Weird that Brazil operates this heli ...

[@canadiankrispybacon]

What were they thinking when they installed that fan🤔 Let’s put it directly in our FoV. Too bad they didn’t give us the option to make it a little more translucent…though I guess it’s just something that you’d get used to. Would be great to see some missions with the Mi24

[@FG-td4vs]

It's really not that bad

[@burnttoast111]

@@FG-td4vs Plus, there is always the Wonder Woman option.

[@DOGosaurus_rex]

TBH I think I might save my coin for the apache

[@dabneyoffermein595]

good call

[@kayezero703]

fun fact here in iraq we use it in the war on isis in 2014

[@Apollo_Tsakiris]

Is it even a question at this point?

[@Jeroen734]

9:57 hehe

[@ElGrecoDaGeek]

Invasion of Cyprus was in 1974

[@canbaykal5336]

1970s mate

[@igormordiuk8900]

YEAH..... BUT NO!!!! I prefer KA-50 Sneaky Bastard over Clumsy Cow.

[@russellwilliams4317]

'Not a expert on flying helicopters'... I thought raising landing gear was universal?...

[@Spudknocker]

90% of helicopters out there including in DCS have fixed landing gear or skids, it can definitely be an easy thing to forget when you are inundated by the complexity of flying a helo when you aren't yet very experienced in them. Gear up landings happen all the time and its why special training is required for pilots to fly aircraft with retractable landing gear whether fixed or rotary winged. I find it interesting that there is no gear warning or horn in the Mi-24.

[@quadg5296]

@@Spudknocker bitching betty will start bitching if you try to land with the gear up. but she bitches in russian.

[@muthaz1952]

I thought you were in heli school.. was this before

[@Spudknocker]

What do you mean?

[@muthaz1952]

@@Spudknocker I think I got 2 of my favorite flight sim guys mixed up. .. I think.. it's.. drew that was in flight school at one point.. also.. I may have had adult beverages.. I love your videos. Absolutely love longer content format. Brrrrt brrrrt brrrt