DDR4 Overclocking/Buying absolute basics

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Actually Hardcore Overclocking

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@fredo915
@fredo915 3 жыл бұрын
He sounds like a University professor!! But looks like the guy in the back of the class throwing paper planes!!😅
@ferna182
@ferna182 3 жыл бұрын
me: "I wonder if I can overclock my corsair dominator platinums B-Die 3200 C16..." buildzoid: "Corsair 3200 C16 is the worst B-Die on earth"
@peytonhastreiter6866
@peytonhastreiter6866 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same stuff, rip, got it to 3600mhz, with slightly tighter trimmings tho.
@ferna182
@ferna182 3 жыл бұрын
@@peytonhastreiter6866 I'd be VERY happy if I manage to boot it at 3600 with the "stock" C16 timings... No luck so far. I gave up trying.
@xIIxNeMeSiSxIIx
@xIIxNeMeSiSxIIx 3 жыл бұрын
@@ferna182 Did you try DRAM Calculator for your timings? Hardware unboxed did a video on how to OC with this simple method
@ferna182
@ferna182 3 жыл бұрын
@@xIIxNeMeSiSxIIx yeah I tried that ages ago but it didn't really worked for me. the fact that I'm using 4 dimms is also probably not helping very much. I decided to just leave it alone and if I need faster ram I'll just get faster ram.
@givemeajackson
@givemeajackson 5 жыл бұрын
People are complaining about things being complicated on a channel called actually hardcore overclocking... You're in the wrong place guys, this man right here doesn't do "overclocking for beginners" videos. You come here cause you're stuck at some advanced problem. And to relax cause i love to listen to this guy rambling while aim-practicinh
@AB-sr9mc
@AB-sr9mc 5 жыл бұрын
however for this particular video the title does say "...Buying absolute basics"
@jedidethfreak
@jedidethfreak 3 жыл бұрын
@@AB-sr9mc 'basics' in the context of hardcore overclocking.
@FigTech
@FigTech 6 жыл бұрын
This video is a gold mine of RAM overclocking knowledge! 👏
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 6 жыл бұрын
I really don't like this one. But no amount of retakes was making it better
@WinnieBlue
@WinnieBlue 6 жыл бұрын
I like it.
@justincredible5406
@justincredible5406 6 жыл бұрын
Seems pretty good so far.
@VivaLaRazsa
@VivaLaRazsa 6 жыл бұрын
I found nothing to dislike and I love nitpicking :D
@hotrodanimal2733
@hotrodanimal2733 6 жыл бұрын
I thinkk that i fell asleep lol ....it has been a rough day though
@sniperpronerfmods9811
@sniperpronerfmods9811 6 жыл бұрын
Actually Hardcore Overclocking nah, its was almost perfect except for the hair lol(you forgot to overclock your hair today(
@chaython
@chaython 6 жыл бұрын
you look nothing like your voice would make me assume
@jabatheshort660
@jabatheshort660 5 жыл бұрын
Chaython Meredith I though he was like 45 years old!
@coows
@coows 5 жыл бұрын
@@jabatheshort660 Rick Ashley flashbacks
@mp00293
@mp00293 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely would have thought he's been overclocking for like 20 years too!
@potheadsalad8084
@potheadsalad8084 5 жыл бұрын
he looks like a sk8er
@glenz10
@glenz10 5 жыл бұрын
he looks like an 18 year old but his voice sounds like 40 year old guy
@boorhadly
@boorhadly 2 жыл бұрын
having worked in PCB manufacturing, as a servicer of wave and reflow soldering equipment, that stuff is often manufactured under contract PCB mfg companies
@c4n4d4
@c4n4d4 6 жыл бұрын
“Absolute basics”
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not really. That would be explaining frequency, CAS latency, etc.
@Cloudrak
@Cloudrak 3 жыл бұрын
@joyela aeuvunya samsung B dies
@dfsafadsDW
@dfsafadsDW 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cloudrak Samsung B dead
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 3 жыл бұрын
“Absolute basics for an advanced level topic”. Sort of like a “entry level” or “101” course is Quantum Physics
@russ322
@russ322 3 жыл бұрын
@joyela aeuvunya its after A die.
@preinstalleduser2309
@preinstalleduser2309 6 жыл бұрын
Get a whiteboard and do a series on memory education starting from ground zero thru advance knowledge. “You can do it””!
@TalMK
@TalMK 6 жыл бұрын
I heard Linus sent his CV to work for this guy.
@quantumbubbles2106
@quantumbubbles2106 5 жыл бұрын
Your mean Linus wanted to do his apprenticeship with Buildzoid?! I'm afraid he'd be in way over his head...
@TheBlackIdentety
@TheBlackIdentety 5 жыл бұрын
Linus is an idiot. Buildzoid wouldn't take him. lol
@AftermathXJ220
@AftermathXJ220 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlackIdentety Idiot who dropped out of school to start LMG. Do you own anything close? What's on your KZbin channel?
@8lec_R
@8lec_R 4 жыл бұрын
@@AftermathXJ220 well said!
@markwelschmeyer2426
@markwelschmeyer2426 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlackIdentety how many full time employs do you have. if Linus is an idiot i wish i was as dumb as he is.
@tonkatoytruck
@tonkatoytruck 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought two sticks of memory from a company I never would have considered before watching your reviews. I acquired 16GB (8x2GB) of Team Group Dark Pro 3200MHz DDR4 @ CAS 14-14-14-14-32. (Samsung Bdie) Looking forward to massaging the secondary timings with the help of your review of the R52400G overclocking video. Also bought the MSI B450M Mortar based on your review. Your hard work does make a difference and it is greatly appreciated. Thanks for sharing.
@gameplaystore6690
@gameplaystore6690 6 жыл бұрын
jesus...this guy knows stuff!!
@james2042
@james2042 6 жыл бұрын
Gameplay Store the crazier his hair, the more knowledge pours out of him. This isn't even his final form.
@gameplaystore6690
@gameplaystore6690 6 жыл бұрын
James Mastroianni pretty much everything is overclocked in his body
@marcustaylor670
@marcustaylor670 6 жыл бұрын
So do most of the top overclockers in the HwBot.org league, but they just can't be arsed to make videos and often they don't like sharing secrets with the masses. Anyone that runs benchmarks and spots patterns in the results can improve their system performance. Overclocking is easy but being good at overclocking takes a long time, I'm still learning after 10 years.
@Tylerjrb
@Tylerjrb 6 жыл бұрын
You want to see him when he has his super saiyan hair on :D
@pdraggy
@pdraggy 6 жыл бұрын
his voice does NOT fit his face though lol he sounds like that tall guy from IT crowd but looks like a teenager.
@demonicdonut22
@demonicdonut22 2 жыл бұрын
WTB part two: timings and what they mean, how to set them. I know it's been covered by others, but you give such good information and have such a deep well of knowledge it would benefit us a lot. I know you might be moving onto DDR5 though.
@glenn27521
@glenn27521 6 жыл бұрын
If you finish this in series I'll send you and Steve from Gamers Nexus $25 through patreon. I would have never found out about your channel if not for Gamers Nexus. Great video.
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 6 жыл бұрын
i found out about his channel on my own through searching water cooling vega 64
@coows
@coows 5 жыл бұрын
@@DragonProtector The leaks are great.
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 5 жыл бұрын
@@coows i abandoned my water cooling idea cause gpu died.
@coows
@coows 5 жыл бұрын
@@DragonProtector Did it die because of the water cooling, or it died before it?
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 5 жыл бұрын
@@coows it died before
@nameinvalid69
@nameinvalid69 5 жыл бұрын
your voice sounds like 30+ guy and then a 20-ish cute guy show up in the thumbnail, I went like ... WTF? Is that him? 😱😱😱
@sonichedgehog36
@sonichedgehog36 3 жыл бұрын
Old MacGyver voice, young MacGyver face.
@wotertool
@wotertool 5 жыл бұрын
a year later and still one of the best RAM videos that I know of
@davewills6121
@davewills6121 5 жыл бұрын
My RAM has pretty lights, when they flash....every thing goes faster.
@theAV8R
@theAV8R 5 жыл бұрын
Half hour technical video in a single shot - so refreshing
@kyivstuff
@kyivstuff 5 жыл бұрын
Buildzoid looks exactly like I imagined (in a good way), just younger. Looks cool, sounds cool, everything’s cool.
@justinm6110
@justinm6110 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Buildzoid, how are you not working for one of these company,s , you know so much about everything that has to do with PC,s really man someone needs to hire you , you know more about how PC,s work than 95% of the people that run all these company,s, thx for that insight on how memory works, Big fan' Great video.
@nhozdien5058
@nhozdien5058 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Merrill then he won’t be able run a KZbin channel, and also has less freedom about things he can discuss.
@saikrishankumar
@saikrishankumar 6 жыл бұрын
Man... a very impressive video. Very informative.
@stevethea5250
@stevethea5250 5 жыл бұрын
Well I would agree with blackbird you should choose something on the compatibility list for your board. Ryzen systems tend to do best with RAM using samsung B die IC modules. A kit rated at 3200mhz C14 is likely using B die. B die kits are pretty much the only kits that can reliably exceed 2933mhz on ryzen without slacking up the timings or using excessive DRAM voltage. Talking about "future proofing" when it comes to RAM speeds and timing is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. Just get a kit you can afford that is on the compatibility list, the higher the speed and lower the timings the better. Speed is generally going to be MUCH more important when it comes to performance in the vast majority of circumstances than timings are.
@StefVR
@StefVR 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best tek video I have seen in a long time and I see tek videos daily. Cant wait for the deep dive on ram.
@DrMuFFinMan
@DrMuFFinMan 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this from the burnt out husk of a year 2020 but this really helped out.
@greygoose5359
@greygoose5359 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a list/overview with all ddr4 memory chips (like e-die or d-die)? If I'm searching for ram, how do I know what kind of die I'm looking at?
@nellynelson965
@nellynelson965 6 жыл бұрын
I think we need to have a chat about the word "basics" and "absolute" because, although this was very good and informative vlog, I would have put this in the Advance category. Possibly Highly Advanced. For instance, if you know what AFR and some of the other pseudonyms were prior to watching this video? Would you need to watch a "basic" video in the first place? Personally, You could cut 70% out, maybe actually shown some real-life data to back up your opinion.
@Seth22087
@Seth22087 6 жыл бұрын
Aye, sure Googling is easy, though you do need to add memory to AFR, because Australian Financial Review it definitely isn't... but at least I know it is from Hynix. :-D
@christopherjames9843
@christopherjames9843 6 жыл бұрын
I have no clue what Buildzoid is talking about. That said he is entertaining as heck!
@unityofsaints
@unityofsaints 6 жыл бұрын
He's not wrong about that subreddit :(
@stevethea5250
@stevethea5250 5 жыл бұрын
Companies that make RAM sticks typically do not state what dies go into RAM, as they source from multiple manufacturers in the production of each SKU. RAM sticks are matched with the same memory to improve compatibility, although before Ryzen, the difference between different fabrications of memory made little to no observable difference, so there was no reason to limit supplies to specific dies as this would just skyrocket costs and RAM availability. The motherboard manufacturer may have got one (or a few) kit(s) of the RAM, tested them, and since they got Samsung dies they may have assumed all would be the same. BIOS updates have improved memory compatibility quite a lot with Ryzen already, with reportedly more to come.
@Verpal
@Verpal 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevethea5250 If its not for Ryzen, I would never be bothered to oc ram, the measurable difference is too low. Kinda thanks AMD for dragging me from normie cpu oc into the dark art of ram oc.
@JeremyMikkola
@JeremyMikkola 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was super informative! I'm looking forward to part 2 :
@grimesolver3149
@grimesolver3149 3 жыл бұрын
I spent an entire week listening to this guy and I learned sooooooo much!
@zealeigh
@zealeigh 6 жыл бұрын
Oh cool, overclocking/buying absolute basics...... A little misleading perhaps. I feel like I've seen my ram with its clothes off now...
@casualfreediving8780
@casualfreediving8780 5 жыл бұрын
Check the name of the channel
@coows
@coows 5 жыл бұрын
Actually hardcore overclocking. He knows his RAM better than you know yourself.
@kennyyuliandrika7162
@kennyyuliandrika7162 3 жыл бұрын
A 2 years late but seems commenters doesn't really get the OP joke.
@zealeigh
@zealeigh 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennyyuliandrika7162 Oh well :) Funny thing is, this guide is still somewhat relevant 2 years later.
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 жыл бұрын
You should make Ryzen 3000 memory comparison... specially which CL16 DDR4 have the best value (3200 CL16 kits are the cheapest). So basicly 3200-3333-3400-3466 CL16
@romevang
@romevang 6 жыл бұрын
Your comments made at 9:21 made me cry, I have Corsair Vengeance LED CL16 DDR4 3200mhz. All i heard is... "worst RAM on the ram planet." =( That's what i get for trying to save a buck or two since ram prices have been inflated.
@kn00tcn
@kn00tcn 6 жыл бұрын
no, worse relative to the rest of the same chip type used, not worse as in early micron as mentioned in another part, not worse than slow ram
@silverwerewolf975
@silverwerewolf975 6 жыл бұрын
That ram is one of the fastest of his tier
@null.dev.
@null.dev. 6 жыл бұрын
this kid was tlaking about early micron what? @ 2400 MHz was it? LOL... memory was ok in the 90s but OCing RAM wasn't really a thing until hmm end of the nawties I suppose.. he'd be alive then ya? Anyway, early micron in ddr4 then ?
@Steamin14
@Steamin14 6 жыл бұрын
He specifically stated early Micron DDR4. He wasn't talking pre DDR4.
@romevang
@romevang 6 жыл бұрын
I did a little digging. After some googling turns out its samsung ram chips, not sure of the quality. Since i hear the quality is random on my particular kit. I've only managed to tighten timings a wee bit. Haven't ran any stability tests to verify.
@Ace-cv1xd
@Ace-cv1xd 4 жыл бұрын
someone just delete every single other OC "guide" video and just have this one up there for everyone to see. this is pure solid gold content.
@chuchof3tt669
@chuchof3tt669 3 жыл бұрын
I think I can come back to this video each year to learn something new
@bullrunhunter6489
@bullrunhunter6489 3 жыл бұрын
Great knowledge base. I can Imagine how much you know today. The passion is impressive.
@JP_Stone
@JP_Stone 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the video. Not a lot of good info on RAM out there and with how touchy CPUs are getting with DRAM especially like Ryzen it's maddening trying to run at the advertised speed of a RAM kit you buy sometimes. For such a long time I always thought RAM was just plug and play and noone every corrected me, even after I started building PCs, for a while before I found out that if you buy a 3200 MHz kit it doesn't run at that clock out of the box and the XMP profiles may not work or be the best option. Learning how to set up timings and choose good RAM has improved my systems buy quite a bit.
@lordace8795
@lordace8795 3 жыл бұрын
yes i understand im 3 years late exactly but omg your face is perfect but nothing i could have imagined, keep up the great work!
@MaculaPravus
@MaculaPravus 5 жыл бұрын
I know this isn't your latest video, but the information in this is so helpful. Thanks
@adityac1991
@adityac1991 6 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video . This makes things simple. Now only need to learn how to set up ram timings.
@jaytee1086
@jaytee1086 Жыл бұрын
What 80's band does this guy come from???
@joshuaking4111
@joshuaking4111 3 жыл бұрын
Commenting for algorithm, Excellent explanation and tips
@TerrenceAmirMcKelvey
@TerrenceAmirMcKelvey 5 жыл бұрын
Respect on the body of knowledge and delivery!
@vaeloreonari7516
@vaeloreonari7516 6 жыл бұрын
Ryzen DRAM Calculator, is a great tool, added with Thaipoon burner. these will do the calculations for many different timings and sub timings and even Bclk, ,voltages, and many other settings.
@tjsmithson1598
@tjsmithson1598 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't work with my micron A die 16/2400
@techfan7808
@techfan7808 4 жыл бұрын
A sad state of affairs for my this morning. I had been ordering 2 dual channel kits of the same part number, speed, and timings to get 4x8gb sticks. This has been working out great, even with XMP. This morning, I found a dead dimm in one of the kits. Not even a dual channel or bios issue, just a bad ram module. Yayyy. Sending in for replacement, so here's hoping. Tested in multiple slots, on two of the same boards. a single stick boots without issue, but running the other module, the machine won't boot, period. Thanks for all of you education on Ram.
@Najvalsa
@Najvalsa 6 жыл бұрын
For Zen owners: www.overclock.net/t/1640919/ryzen-dram-calculator-overclocking-dram If that doesn't work: Hynix: www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1624603-rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread-2414.html#post26242714 Samsung: www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1624603-rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread-2067.html#post26178558 I can't find any others from The Stilt. If either don't work, update your BIOS to the latest version and try again.
@d1namis
@d1namis 6 жыл бұрын
Agesa 1.7 still awfull for Zen1 on most boards... Pre 1.6 most of the time will work great with Zen1 and with compatable memory. 1.6b will be descent with Micron/hunix.
@bobsagget823
@bobsagget823 6 жыл бұрын
great comment, thanks for the links.
@SvDKILLSWITCH
@SvDKILLSWITCH 6 жыл бұрын
I've tried using both the DRAM Calculator and The Stilt's timings on my 16GB kit of Hynix MFR RAM, and none of the settings are stable at the rated 3200 MHz speed of the kit with my R7 1700 on a Crosshair VI Hero, as as is always the case when overclocking: YMMV. I'm not really that knowledgeable on memory overclocking, but as far as I can tell my kit of Corsair Vengeance LPX is using some base tier MFR ICs - H5AN8G8NMFR-TFC which as far as I can tell are officially rated by Hynix for DDR4-2133 15-15-15. Corsair rates this kit for DDR4-3200 16-18-18-36. I'll probably end up trying for tight timings at 2933 or 3000 MHz instead at some point. I'm curious though, when you select Hynix memory in the DRAM Calculator, is it giving recommendations for AFR or MFR? Unlike B/S-die and D/E/C-die where it explicitly states what IC it's targeting, it just says "Hynix" despite there being two different widely available Hynix ICs.
@Radovanslav
@Radovanslav 3 жыл бұрын
*cries in Nanya based ram *
@cavedon.felipe
@cavedon.felipe 6 жыл бұрын
Here some very precious information. Thank you!
@Weryl
@Weryl 6 жыл бұрын
So, for all who don't want to watch all: Buy Samsung firstly B-Die; E-Die; D-Die and apex/ Soc champion ln2 with i7 7700k/i7 8700k =D
@Kingtroll38
@Kingtroll38 2 жыл бұрын
New to the channel. Great stuff man
@dreagen1
@dreagen1 6 жыл бұрын
Found you by watching your mobo analysis w/Gamers Nexus. Doing great work!
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, thank you for this instructional video. It's good to finally know what the heck I am buying for my PC. No more random numbers!
@John-dt7zb
@John-dt7zb 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for the advice yesterday on twitch. The k5 mobo fried itself and my ryzen 7 1700x. So long story short i now have a 8700k.
@theHardwareBench
@theHardwareBench Жыл бұрын
I always use the formula you said of dividing the memory frequency by the timing, and I always found you get more performance with the higher clock speed. 9 times out of ten you can overclock lower speed memory kits a couple of hundred mhz and keep stock primary timings and voltage, at least on a decent motherboard which sorts the secondary timings well.
@packman67ny
@packman67ny 5 жыл бұрын
Spend 14 days of frustration tuning Corsair 3200MHz and with this video I'm happy knowing they need to volts, thanks.
@edwardallenthree
@edwardallenthree 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Let's call H/c (where H is the frequency and c is the CAS latency) the Buildzoid Rank (B). The actual CAS latency is 1/H * c = c/H or 1/B. That number is not pulled from nowhere. It is the exact inverse of the "actual" time it takes to perform a Column Access Thingamagig. I don't know memory, but Math... well, I don't know that either, but I pretend. Apologies if others have pointed this out.
@lyth1um
@lyth1um 5 жыл бұрын
where you get those oc results? with my searching skill i get 1.4 voltage for 24/7 and where i can see which memory is on my stick and are there results already for this stick? regards
@SWIRFTV
@SWIRFTV 4 жыл бұрын
omg i didnt realize you were this young, your a fooking genius
@Spherex
@Spherex 5 жыл бұрын
I would love an update video to this one. I've watched it several times and when I hear you say the GSkill 14cl kits are "bottom of the barrel" I don't understand why at all. Aren't lower cl ratings at a comparable freq better? This part really lost me and I'd love an indepth explanation on the current 3000-3200 ddr4 ram choices.
@azzogathor
@azzogathor 5 жыл бұрын
He was talking about G.Skill using B die in 3000/cl14 specs. Which would, indeed, indicate the bottom of the barrel B die.
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 5 жыл бұрын
So 3200 CL14 is faster than 4000 CL19. Good info dude thank you.
@matonted
@matonted 6 жыл бұрын
Crucial doesn't buy memory chips as far as I know, they are a subsidiary brand of micron, so they actually make everything in-house.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 6 жыл бұрын
they are owned by micron but they will buy DDR4 chips from other companies if micron can't keep up with demand. You can get Crucial kits with Samsung E-die and B-die.
@matonted
@matonted 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thanks for the clarification.
@coows
@coows 5 жыл бұрын
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking is e die better than b die
@joshsanderson5512
@joshsanderson5512 5 жыл бұрын
30G well e die are Samsung kits like 2x4gb and b die are Samsung 2x8gb for example
@SimonMedia666
@SimonMedia666 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video, very informative! I just started overclocking My Adata xpg Dazzle 2400 DDR, currently running at 2666 14 16 16 39 1,35 looking forward to overclock it more, those chips are Spectrix memory manufacturer, so I could not find them in the RAM DDR4 calculator
@raedalhazmi6448
@raedalhazmi6448 3 жыл бұрын
Also consider the best ram speed suitable for your cpu cause sometimes higher ram freq harm cpu performance but it is 3 yrs ago video
@cliche_AF
@cliche_AF 5 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on how to OC memory .
@jeffreymarley6877
@jeffreymarley6877 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zoid, helped a lot as I am early in my mem overclock.
@letsgoiowa
@letsgoiowa 6 жыл бұрын
That bit about Micron is 100% accurate. For me, it absolutely refuses to boot at 1.4v even with ridiculous SOC voltages and nice LLC. I can't get it to 2933, but I got 2800 and that was questionably stable. I'm back to 2667 and crap timings, but I guess I'll mess with timings now to see how well that works! What voltage should I use on the SOC for my Ryzen 5 1600 on my MSI X370 Gaming Pro carbon? I use 1.15v right now.
@RayanMADAO
@RayanMADAO 6 жыл бұрын
You have an amazing voice and accent
@neon_necromunda
@neon_necromunda 6 жыл бұрын
heared lots of your stuff on Steves channel aka Gamers Nexus props on your knowledge base didn't realise you were so young so even more props. I was expecting a guy in his 40's lol keep up the awesome work glad to now be a subscriber. Sorry if that comes across as odd I'm an aspie so I hope you take it as a compliment.
@hughw.
@hughw. 5 жыл бұрын
You sound like an educated 40 year old..yet your much younger... congratulations... you're more than a bit of a genius
@coows
@coows 5 жыл бұрын
He has experience, too.
@2020Tech4U
@2020Tech4U 2 жыл бұрын
Still 1 of my favorite videos you did bro, I was able to say "HAH" to people that for years said I was wrong, I'm finally smart.....
@crashhut9886
@crashhut9886 5 жыл бұрын
You are my new favorite youtube channel, Keep up the good work man!
@arnokalliokorpi7048
@arnokalliokorpi7048 6 жыл бұрын
This is gold, super informative!
@hotrodanimal2733
@hotrodanimal2733 6 жыл бұрын
actually i really enjoy watching your content i find it very informative and i have learned a lot from you
@i3loodymoon647
@i3loodymoon647 6 жыл бұрын
Going to love using this video to be able to explain this to people, mainly because me reiterating any of this to anyone is near impossible XD
@SmokedOutRoe
@SmokedOutRoe 6 жыл бұрын
Love your video's man, very smart and informative. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
@MindBlank86
@MindBlank86 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent guide man! Don't know why you're not satisfied with how it turned out since it's to the point and chalk full of info for a beginner. I have a question: what max 24/7 voltage would you run on B-die? Assume normal airflow, nothing especially cooling the modules. 1.6/1.65v? I'd set it and then scale up on frequency and down on latency until I hit a mem or IMC wall (prolly memory, though), that's why I'm asking.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly with B-die I'm more worried about the IMC than the sticks. I'd honestly stick to 1.5V for daily unless some long term data for 1.6V+ VDIMM comes out from some board makers or something.
@MindBlank86
@MindBlank86 6 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks! 3600 18-20-20 is like 3200 16-16-16 as far as B-die quality is concerned, right? Or is it one step below?
@GroudFrank
@GroudFrank 3 жыл бұрын
I am very new to overclocking RAM. TBH it's a lot to swallow and I'm still ignorant to much but I'm a lot less ignorant after watching this video. You do great work BZ! Thanks 👍🏿
@jedifist1
@jedifist1 4 жыл бұрын
umm..wot? seriously tho, thank-you sir. You tore down my misconception and set me straight re: true latency.
@brandonj1914
@brandonj1914 5 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to understand this! Thanks for uploading
@JMUDoc
@JMUDoc 5 жыл бұрын
RAM overclocking is very easy, just laborious - I got a 3600 kit from 18-22-22-42 to 16-19-16-36 without increasing any voltages. In fact, I had to take my SOC DOWN to 1.05V from the motherboard's auto. Just be methodical, keep a "moving record" of your last-known-good settings, and test for stability after any changes. There is a nice BIOS-bootable program called Memtest86 that can do a quick sub-10 mins stability test; my overclock took less than two hours, + Win 10 testing.
@Humiinator
@Humiinator 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question! Should I purchase a G.Skill 16gb @ 3600mhz cas Timing 17-18-18-38 b-die or Hynix Timing 18-22-22-42 ? There's a 40$ difference so it could save me some cash to put it elsewhere. Thanks!
@michygeorg
@michygeorg 5 жыл бұрын
Really helpful and ultimately reinforced my plan to get 3200 14, unless I misunderstood something. Seems like the best option for high performance without getting ridiculous in price.
@남기헌-l8y
@남기헌-l8y 5 жыл бұрын
Nanya does make DDR4 chips, and I believe some ram stick makers do use them, Just very rare
@Spelldaoc
@Spelldaoc 3 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for the basic stuff to start and the video ended already.
@NikosGermanakos
@NikosGermanakos 6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid and don't bother of the raw content ... raw has its audience and when it comes down to defining something time is not something that should worry you at all as long as you deliver! I'd love to have your insight because you mentioned the cl14 3200 gskill kits .... what timings should someone focus to get with a F4-3200C14D-16GTZ when it is overclocked at 3600 or 3800 considering the chip it is loaded with? (I would appreciate if you don't stick with the 4 main timings but go all the way with all the "first" timings)
@Wolf-hl8zk
@Wolf-hl8zk 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, can’t find anything else like your content. Truly one of a kind keep it up.
@niko9124
@niko9124 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I thought absolute basics, maybe I listen to the video a few times :(
@BoredErica
@BoredErica 6 жыл бұрын
If we divide freq by cas then 3600 c15 kit is the best ones out there, aside from the crazy high frequency kits (4600, etc) and 4133 c17 (1.5v XMP). What's confusing to me is I'm getting the impression that there are two metrics for whether a kit of ram is faster or not: Its latency and just bandwidth. And latency would be a function of bandwidth and timings (roughly estimated to be freq/cas), and bandwidth just by how high the frequency is. Some say that for video editing, higher bandwidth helps more, whereas for some games lower latency helps more.
@0s0sXD
@0s0sXD 4 жыл бұрын
From your analogy of the 2 people sent to bring the box I discovered that I am a 5000mhz cl 45 kit Because when I study at school I'm the best And I don't study very rarely So I end up doing very bad in the end
@Paddydapro
@Paddydapro 6 жыл бұрын
great video, i am so happy that you finally make more ram videos, will be waiting for the following ones :)
@rusTORK
@rusTORK 5 жыл бұрын
Look's like Buildzoid himself have got bandwidth limit. So much data and so small amout of time. Even if there is 26 minutes and 52 seconds. But since i looking for a RAM - it was an excellent timing! =))
@zerospampls3980
@zerospampls3980 6 жыл бұрын
The question is wich voltage is save for 24/7/365/5-10 use!? I really dont care about the RAM score as long as i cant use it in my daily life!
@TheBilaras97
@TheBilaras97 6 жыл бұрын
1.45 should be fine,even 1.5
@Munty.
@Munty. 6 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I need your opinion, I own 4x4 Teamgroup Xtreem ram modules. Should I am for: 14-14-14:32 at 3200 or 18-18-18:38 at 4000 mhz ? Thanks in advance
@GraphicallyChallenged
@GraphicallyChallenged 6 жыл бұрын
What is a reasonable max voltage for overclocking ddr4 ram on z370
@marcustaylor670
@marcustaylor670 6 жыл бұрын
For gaming I use the rated voltage on the stick, for benching so far I've not used over 1.65v as when I've gone to 1.75 I couldn't get any faster speeds or better timings. I can't afford more RAM so that's as far as I'm going for now. You won't gain a lot of real world performance squeezing the last bit with high voltages anyway. On Z370 & Z270 I've found 3866mhz with 16-18-18-40-3T at stock voltage gives me the best performance with everything else on auto. I do run Apex boards though which have very good auto settings. You need to make sure the northbridge speed is on point as that will affect performance more than ram a lot of the time.
@Davido2369
@Davido2369 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcustaylor670 do you think 1.5v will be okay for daily use on 1.35v stick?
@marcustaylor670
@marcustaylor670 5 жыл бұрын
@@Davido2369 I don't know, as I say I stick to the recommended voltage for daily use. I'm building a cheap FX 6300 rig for someone for xmas and am finding that performance on games like PUBG & Fortnite is better at stock speed than with an overclock provided northbridge, HT link and memory settings are optimal. Games like Fallout 4 still benefit from a CPU overclock but I tend to build PC's to be optimized for the individual user. I only tested as it will be nice for it to be able to drop the clock speed and voltage when idle which it can only do when stock or overclocked off the base clock rather than the multiplier. I got bored with extreme overclocking as apart from learning how the system responds to inputs it doesn't benefit anyone and I got fed up with spending money on new hardware all the time. Memory generally performs best for games with the stock speeds and timings, sometimes slightly looser if anything. Getting the northbridge right always gives good gains everywhere for everything on any system. Ryzen sucks because you can't adjust it separately from the clock which limits it's potential.
@Startekselva
@Startekselva 5 жыл бұрын
very good and detailed overclocking guide
@halrichard1969
@halrichard1969 2 жыл бұрын
I have been subbed to your channel for like six months. I have watched your channel for years. Most channel hardware guys will actually give their real names. That seems the only mystery with you. No problem. Now your voice cadence and verbiage gives me the absolute geekiest impression. Your actual appearance is much more common and wholesome in reality. Anyway, cheers.
@v3zMedia
@v3zMedia 6 жыл бұрын
So the G.Skill Flare X 16GB DDR4 3200mhz CL14 is still a great buy???
@miketaylor7119
@miketaylor7119 6 жыл бұрын
By dividing your frequency by your Cas latency you're essentially calculating the maximum number of CAS operations / 2 seconds. See you can actually use this as a quick metric for operational speed
@hydrochloricacid2146
@hydrochloricacid2146 6 жыл бұрын
The question I've asked myself quite a lot, especially back when ddr4 launched, is why at equivalent frequencies, latency on ddr4 is just straight up worse than ddr3. Back in 2015, you'd see ddr3 2133 at cl10 or the like, but ddr4 2133 was cl15
@w1LLz1
@w1LLz1 6 жыл бұрын
Hydrochloric Acid you’re comparing top tier ddr3 vs stock ddr4 mate
@Raivo_K
@Raivo_K 6 жыл бұрын
DDR4 uses very conservative timings by default. Trough OC it's possible to lower these even further thus negating any speed loss vs DDR3. And yes it's also about what you compare. Im sure if we will get DDR5 in the coming years people will point at DDR4-4700 and say DDR5 is slower. And it may very well be at the beginning but it's not apples to apples comparsion.
@HappySlappyFace
@HappySlappyFace 6 жыл бұрын
Ray Ward Again that is high end ddr3 vs stock ddr4
@fizzsoduh
@fizzsoduh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raivo_K And here we are lol
@alienproductions9948
@alienproductions9948 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm, you're 20 years younger than I thought you were. Well done.
@halogrim1881
@halogrim1881 3 жыл бұрын
what was the summary?
@AceVenturaXii
@AceVenturaXii 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, I was looking for the basic overclocking videos. If this is the basics I’m screwed.
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