🛑 DDR5 FINALLY Just Works. 😱👑 (Z890 Hero + CU-Dimm Overview)

[@FrameChasers]

Correction to the video, the 8 pin PCIE connector beside the 24pin is not for the NVME power, it’s for the PD charging of the USB-C connector

[@lassekristensen385]

Yup, exactly lke on the Z790 Hero.. same same

[@lemsdk17]

Would a 8000mhz rated ram kit be able to hit better timings in say 6000mhz than a 6000mhz rated ram kit?

[@Vlad-jy9ls]

​@@lemsdk17 i think yes

[@lassekristensen385]

@@lemsdk17 One would think so? I have not tried to dial down to 6000. But I know that my 8400 which I am unable to run higher than 7400 I at least compared to XMP run better timings than other 7200 kits. It would make sense as its higher bin ram. BUT does it scale several thousand mhz lower!? Good question. I often think of this but always if you listen online the "experts" always agree that bandwith over latency?! I always run the highest bandwith possible in this case I am limited to 7400 being a 4 dimm board. But Because the RAM is 8400 I can run very agressivbe timmings. Giving a great combo of both. A comparision is that my RAM at 7400 with my timings run quite a bit faster with VEYR lower latency compared to if I set them to XMP 8000 which I can run bench and what not its just not stable for gaming due to motherboard technical limitations.

[@MrDutch1e]

He thought Asus didn't know who he was when he bought half the Apex boards ever made 😂.

[@FrameChasers]

Sold em all too ✌🏻

[@lorokify]

@@FrameChasers They wouldn't if it wasn't for you, right? :) 🤝

[@superscuba73]

Let's be honest, DDR5 has been a FAFO journey for both blue and red teams. I'm glad both X870(E) and Z890 chipsets address the issue.

[@TTVSamuraiX23X]

The introduction of CUDIMM, the updates to stability, and many many mistakes were made to make this happen. 😂

[@B3TR0Z]

Great video! Yeah that Z890 Hero looks amazing!

[@Revocated]

For us the tweakers this is gonna be a GOLD platform.

[@Dawe957]

You’re seem so excited I’m happy for you congratulations 🎉🎉🎉

[@Greez1337]

Glad to have waited a while for DDR5 to see some nice maturation. Late stage B -die on DDR4 was pure chill.

[@rmorenberg]

Dude so much needed detail. especially the M.2 breakdown. Your making it easy to follow you and your videos! Thanks

[@potvinsuks8730]

Just wanted to say that, it was/is also DDR4 issues with Raptor Lake as well as DDR5. I only recently finally found out what the issue to my new build is and it was a 13700k that refused to post w two dimms of DDR4 on a z690 STRIX A. Thought the issue was the board for the longest time but found out it is the CPU afterall. Anyway, my point is that Raptor Lake has RAM memory issues and not just a 'DDR5' thing. Love that you're growing, dude! Peeps better recognize! Keep it up!

[@JoeLegionTV]

I’m not trying to argue with you man, but just because your CPU was faulty doesn’t mean all raptor Lake CPU’s have DDR4 issues. What you just described is extremely rare with Intel. (I’ve had 3 AMD CPUs crap out a Memory Channel)

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

Huh? Lmfao...

[@jewelersofwhale]

Try an older bios version with microcode 10e or 15. My ddr4 is not stable with latest bios versions unless i downclock it. But with version 10e and 15 i can run them at 4133mhz cl15 g1 without any issue and my cpu voltage is below 1.394v when using the older microcode bios. With the newer versions it runs at 1.52v

[@potvinsuks8730]

@@JoeLegionTV No worries but I think you may have misunderstood. I'm not trying to shit on Raptor Lake. I was just responding to the video when he insinuated that the majority of the Raptor Lake problems are DDR5 related when its memory in general, is all. Just so you know, I tested my 13700k with 2 other boards (Asrock rs pro d/4 and Aorus z790 Pro x w 2 different DDR5 sticks) and it wouldn't post w 2 sticks but as soon as I threw in a borrowed 12700k every board with any RAM worked. Intel just replied with RMA instructions today for a 13700k replacement.

[@potvinsuks8730]

@@jewelersofwhale Hmm this is interesting to know, thank you! I have the T-Force Extreems CL 14 @3600 and unfortunately, they require at least 1.40 v in XMP so that does tend to be a pia at times.

[@j340_official]

Media kit my mans is moving up in the world. Congrats bra.

[@0perativeX]

It'd be interesting to see if the new CU-DIMMs can run at full speed with all 4 slots populated instead of just 2.

[@markschumacher3157]

finally shaved the dome , It looks great

[@wethepeople3670]

11:29 That lint ball is going to keep you from posting 😛

[@FrameChasers]

My cat walked by and I had to take a break to pet her 🥹

[@jordan-mn6yy]

The m.2 slot capacity is nice, now we just need a cheap version that has this many slots

[@RealMelTan]

Your explanation is very thorough, learning a lot from you :)

[@jrherita]

Really looking hearing forward to 4 DIMM speeds on this board.

[@geezus_duh]

GOAT Glad to see you receive the media kit package and be acknowledged for your insight! Much needed review from someone who can give REAL detail! Thank you again 👏

[@explosif101]

I like how you end up just being right even before testing

[@ericaltman8248]

So. A couple years back I went into a Microcenter and wanted to treat myself to a really high end gaming rig. I got the MSI Z690 MEG Godlike, the i9-12900KS, and Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5-5200... I wasn't going to go that crazy, but wife convinced me to 'treat myself'. It SEEMS to work great, never a hiccup. But... is it real? Like, how much money did I waste on this? Are both the motherboard and RAM being DDR-5 a lie? Like how 4G-LTE was not really 4G? Hit me with the truth. I'm already bummed. I can take it.

[@SaschaRobitzki]

Adding non-standard configurations like x12 could complicate the board layout to ensure signal integrity and minimize interference. It would lead to increased manufacturing complexity and potential compatibility issues with cards as well.

[@jonperez8513]

No RGB, c'mon!! I'm really excited to see the rest results on those memory sticks. I wonder if you got crazy high binning for the sticks. With your fafo skills I'm sure the outcome is going to be very informative.

[@marksantos8308]

Jufes gets the media kit package??!! finally boys!! Top brands recognizing him and his community. way more deserving than any other channel! Cant wait to upgrade my 12900k 😁😁

[@TheArcticDen]

i'm excited to upgrade my 3900x. and it is cool that he got this.

[@brianlukas2868]

This hero board is very interesting... Great job with your examples of usage.

[@scrubz4887]

:0 mans becoming tech reviewer with media package, nice!

[@pcoverthink]

Can't wait to see this on AM5. Hopefully the platform is not hard locked to like 8k or something and 9-12k is possible

[@chvtney]

I do love more the peripherals then actually the new cpus and gpus

[@OVERKILL_PINBALL]

Excellent review, answering questions I had as I was thinking of them!

[@Ray88G]

I really hope this socket will be supported for the next gen

[@impuls60]

Is the Core Ultra 285k review coming out soon? Its already a bloodbath in most of the reviews out there.

[@LimitlessHorizonVRSimrigs]

Loved the video mate, you scored a new sub 😊

[@blutdogify]

V-COLOR Manta XFinity RGB DDR5 48GB (24GBx2) 8600MHz CL40 1.45V CU-DIMM works straight from the box. Z890 Maximus Hero XMP 2

[@radugrigoras]

This new platform is probably a godsend for you jufes. If you put the time in and learn all the ins and outs of all 30 of those clocks and voltages you can get some really tweaked and unique bundles made. Plus consults out the anus. More switches they give you the better as far as your business goes, gonna be epic, especially with the on chip full voltage control.

[@raynel8495]

It's "Eat you're cake, and have it too".

[@Bass.Player]

I just built a MSI MAG Z890 Tomahawk WiFi with a 245K and Patriot Viper Xtreme 5 RGB 7600 @ 8400 Cl 38 @1.45 volts.

[@mimo.46.]

"you can have your cake and eat it too and have a second breakfast after" loved that part haha! Great review!

[@jeffreyabrick]

today's the day! thinking how this could improve Resolume workflows

[@ToMMi808]

Nothing is better than the GPU box artworks

[@donthateme1210]

audio level up as well - sounds mint, man. ❤

[@FrameChasers]

Yessss someone noticed!! Thank you

[@Aerobrake]

do we know if CUDIMMs will be supported on X870? i wonmder how it benefits the platform

[@nigelwright7557]

A lot of duplicated waffle. The tech term for "clock re-driver" is clock buffer. No reason why it cant be used with older motherboards, you dont need to bypass the clock buffer.

[@georgem.6136]

Jufes is a legend! Awesome video!

[@AllahAkbar280]

Can't wait to upgrade my obsolete 14900ks

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

Huh?

[@chriswunderly6905]

They are being sarcastic

[@Ocean-pd6hu]

Lol

[@lassekristensen385]

Bro! Come on.. I have the same chip and even IF there is a AMD X3D something out there that can perform depending on usecase! 10% more frames this does not mean your KS is crap or obsolete! And while I acknowledge it can have a high powerdraw this is only in child benchmark like Cinebench. In normal use or gaming you would not really notice the difference if compared to a X3D cpu. it would litterly be a waste of money to change and say your KS is obsolete! It just does not makes sense what you say. At this point in time I would argue that 13900K(s) and 14900K(s) does NOT have a reasonable path to upgrade! The i285K has failed and the X3D cpu (being the 9800) are 10% faster in 1080p non v sync games. I play 4K some the difference does not matter that much. BUT either way AMD or Intel you would be looking at a upgrade of CPU and mainboard and perhaps RAM if you seek CU dimm... this path would cost THOUSANDS of dollars to give 10-15% in SOME games or if 285k mostly lower FPS! But pay attention that the 9800 X3D gets NUKED in everything ELSE than gaming by the older Intel CPUS. Theres just no way a 8c/16t outperforms the 24c/32t. So there are NO reasonable path to upgrade for you and if you do you would loose in oher aress not to mention that cost of upgrade would be ridicolous based on results. I have hears from several users that the X3D including this "youtuber" in this video (who change oppinion very often) that having a X3D is great for gaming but ALL else it sucks! Browsing, Windows, file compression, shader compile and what not it woudl be significant SLOWER. But if you ONLY game.. sure! But againg this is a Intel review and I can tell you right here.. the i285K does NOT deliver! In most cases its slower that your current CPU in game. Yes productivity it shines and Cinebench runs lol! But I was once fooled by this high speed ram shit that I learned my lession. This does not make a real world difference! Going from 6000 to 8000 mhz memory spending a lot of money gave me nothing other than some benchmark numbers.. I was actually verty disappointed by the difference. But if you wanna burn money or something you should AT LEAST wait for Intels next gen which could use same socket. The ram is NOT worth it and the 285K disappoints.

[@AllahAkbar280]

@@lassekristensen385I bought already rog x870e hero & 9800x3d

[@Spinelli__]

So we have 2 new DDR5 versions: CUDIMM and CAMM2. Which one is supposed to be most geared towards top-end performance? Are they going to compete with eachother? Are there going to be different versions of the same motherboard in order to support each?

[@TheAkecheta]

Very well done. I subscribed and looking forward to the review of this board that I am considering to purchase.

[@steavensenegalegal381]

Bro where the HELL are you? the whole f. overclocking community is waiting for you

[@darkfire3691]

He's still tuning his 285k under chiller and can't understand why it's inferior to 14900k

[@beardpwn282]

Do remember; the sample you've been sent is a sampled/tested motherboard handpicked by ASUS. Please do another video with the consumer version.

[@jrherita]

8:35 That is REALLY cool!

[@alpinestars-wm8rv]

The excitement that runs through me when I see the ‘Jufus has a new video posted’ notification, is unprecedented! Been hoping for you to have a look at this board and cannot wait for the in depth review on this one. Now I’m super curious as to when I can get me a set of CU DIMM Trident Z5 RGB 8000Mhz dimms.. Thanks again! 👍

[@naughtysyntax]

Thanks for the video!!! 👍

[@FTLN]

Well done Asus for getting FC the media pack :) !!!TRUTH!!!

[@iprfitness]

Very cool!! So happy for you man. And as always, excellent review 🫡

[@dlaczegoniepodcast]

I learn more from Your videos than i learned from 1000 articles xD

[@stephenleal9436]

I bought 2 of the Ryujin iii. 1st didn’t come with the screws. Return. 2nd was defective and pump was not making normal amounts of noise… Either their stuff works or it doesn’t. Like a lottery. I gave up. Done with ASUS.

[@FieroAustin]

Curious, would a 5090 benefit from 16 lanes over 8 lanes of pcie gen 5? Wondering if you could buy a Z790 that will split the 16 available gen 5 lanes; 8 to the GPU and then use the other 8 (or 4) for a Gen 5 NVME, and have no loss in performance due to the 5090 going down to 8 lanes? That way you could have a Gen 5 NVME and a 5090 both running at full capability? Or would the 8 gen 5 lanes have a drawback on the 5090 performance?

[@rallyscoot]

I leave it just with first gen ddr5 sticks on AM5.. CL30 6000Mhz.. If its getting to slow for Zen6 upgrade. Then always could buy an x3d cpu instead.

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

12:04 I'm def most ppl. I just slap the legos together, keep my fire extinguisher on hand and cross my fingers when I hit the power button.

[@Gixerboy]

Nice video. Good job buddy

[@foxdart]

You go Ivan, keep it real man. 👍

[@216edwin]

Would you consider this over the z790 apex

[@kelvinjinxd]

I wish it’s an apex instead of a hero in your review kit.

[@imAgentR]

that good ol top exhaust

[@gamingfromjohnwayne]

U doing a dam food job on ur channel 😊

[@Bloodyhellfinger18]

why did asus remove the easy release buttom for the gpu I swear they love too go backwards

[@MobileIndifference]

Game time!

[@ejectnolook6543]

We made it boys. Still no special treatment

[@AustnTok]

dude, the video restarted on his logo 4 times in a row before i noticed. I thought you were messing with us

[@BeastMortThe]

I was looking at the 8000 on Kingston and I don't like that they don't have any straight up black dimms. Also... would love to see a comparison with that new ROG III 360 AIO versus the new NZXT 2024 Kraken Elite 360

[@ironmaiden8450]

Bought this board, knowing i wont use half the features ever.

[@seanc6754]

What's in the box.. WHAT'S IN THE BOX!?!?!

[@kwakes212]

Awesome review even tho you didn't even turn it on for us yet lol

[@tacoterito22]

So do we pull the trigger or not for gaming? if you know what i mean... :D!!

[@216edwin]

Are u going to do asus z890 apex review soon ? 😊

[@OdeonGG]

Can you pass a message to ROG to provide this package in their shops. Please and thanks!

[@FrameChasers]

I will tell them, I think it’s a good idea too

[@WillFuI]

I feel like the 24gb stuff runs about has hot as 16gb a die I have no active cooling on dual rank a die and they sticks only get up to 55c. Well on one of my sticks the temp sensor glitches out and goes to 3550c but the hotter of my 2 sticks goes to 55c at 1.44v

[@gtijason7853]

Saw the CKD last month on 6400 SPD Hynix A Die with part number HMCG78AHBCA313N AA CoolEnjoy a Korean site said about the all green OEM sticks "6400 Spinach was good. The spinach is fresh, but it has something that looks like beans that I've never seen before." The bean being the part Jufes had shown on his Fury stick

[@connorharris1900]

Still not enough lanes to satisfy a modest mainboard.

[@LOT9T]

Jufes wsg! How's about dropping an affiliate link for the slimSAS pcie adapter. Never know could be a margin booster! TY

[@MaryannLynch-z9c]

Surprised pikachu face DDR5 finally working

[@robertlewis8608]

I would still take an apex encore, a 14900k, a kid of 8000-8200mhz cl38, tuned to cl36 over the new core ulta, plus any speed of faster new ram and a new board. Remember I posted here thatthe Core Ultra's would not outperform a 13th-14th gen i9 especially a tuned/tamed one... I kind of saw the first two batches of ES chips and the for retail sample cpu. A big meh honesxtly...

[@macunknown]

Unbiased. Accurate. Detailed. And he knows his shit in the discord.

[@dlaczegoniepodcast]

I actually have a question. What means that for example M2 takes PCI lanes from GPU. Does GPU works slower with more m2?

[@arkama67]

oh shit nice jufes !

[@tadmikowsky7520]

How do I buy the dumb box like the one u got?

[@a4gr]

Hi and thanks for all the info. I have a question about the latest version of Windows though. After upgrading to 24H2 I noticed my mouse started lagging. Every time I open browsers or try doing different things in programs the mouse just slows down. If I wait a bit it goes back to normal though. I've checked all the mouse settings like polling rate and enhanced movement, etc.; tested the memory and different sticks (XMP on/off); done an in place update for windows 11; etc. Any ideas how to fix the lag? I've even tried totally different mice but that didn't help either. I've set the virtual memory and set my PC to prioritize background apps as well... I've also done virus and malware scans just incase.

[@captainlooney4356]

I thought CUDIMMs allowed for better voltages, 1.4 is like standard UDIMMs.

[@juanme555]

btw, is a 12900K a lot worse than the 13900K and 14900K ??? because the difference in price between these processors is INSANE in my country, the 12900K is within reach, the other 2 are around the price of a Ryzen 9 7900X in my country (Argentina).

[@paulsalay]

That is a nice box....

[@angeluorteganieves2539]

I want to see the Benchmarks of them DDr5

[@davidgimenez4888]

Could you post the link to the minisas to pcie cable adapter ?

[@gamersftwonline]

i dont like how they made the new cpus weaker then the 14900ks man like wtf

[@Chuyuck]

Overhead can hands is so funny

[@Almondzzz-d2v]

When will u add another bundle to your shop?

[@FrameChasers]

@@Almondzzz-d2v which one are you after? 9800x3d?

[@Almondzzz-d2v]

@ ummm I’m new to pc

[@FrameChasers]

The bundles aren’t for new folks, they are for advanced users

[@Almondzzz-d2v]

@@FrameChasers ohhhhhhhh okay

[@chillinsince96]

Super sick

[@JoeLegionTV]

I wait every week for your videos man. So happy for you to be moving up, and you getting recognized by the major companies 🤘🏼

[@The_Abominable_Mr_Joe]

Get's cool toy in a box, Likes the toys but prefers the box. Jufus is a cat! 🐈

[@frillasliska9095]

Im a biiiig fan from sweden. I bought your course. And im wondering if you can do a sfx build whit decent temps. 1080p comp. Best regards Sweden

[@Ray88G]

When review.?

[@周润88888]

You have a link for that slimsas to pci gen x4 board?

[@怪啊啊]

where is z890 formula？i want a white board with 4dimms

[@crabbylabbe]

CU next Dimm