Dead car plasma unit (fixed) with schematic

My guess at what was wrong with this unit was completely wrong. It's as if they repurposed an existing circuit design and I initially thought they were trying to run a dielectric barrier plasma generator from DC.
In reality the fault was with component tolerances - possibly off-tolerance transistors. But having tested the transistors on a tester which identified then correctly and gave a plausible gain, I had a wild goose chase of component swapping.
Once I got it going I then found it did kinda work, but not as well as it should have due to the weird choice of output circuitry.
I get the feeling this is a clone of a clone with the factory not quite understanding the operation.
On a plus note, it's not one of the completely fake ones with a blue LED and fake circuitry. And we did get to do a very deep dive into the circuitry of this novel device.
If you enjoy these videos you can help support the channel with a dollar for coffee, cookies and random gadgets for disassembly at:- www.bigclive.com/coffee.htm
This also keeps the channel independent of KZbin's algorithm quirks, allowing it to be a bit more dangerous and naughty.
#ElectronicsCreators

[@HaLo2FrEeEk]

I wish Clive narrated audiobooks. I would listen to all of them.

[@ep4no]

Haha!! I was eating my cereal not really watching the video, just listening to his voice thinking the same thing as this comment 😂🙌

[@TheRealSabakuNoGabo]

Both him and his brother, Ralfy have a mellow voice suitable for audiobook narrating. I think this is one of the factors of them having the number of subscribers they have. I have found myself enjoying just the sound of their voice and not having the slightest idea of what they're talking about 😅😅😅

[@_..-.._..-.._]

_”He was a tough man, bulging muscles, years of stress leaving maps on his face; he glanced at me from across the room. I knew without words what he wanted and I obliged”_ 😂

[@CrinosAD]

I have thought the same thing many times!

[@henryokeeffe5835]

One slight correction: This isn't a Royer oscillator. It's very similar, but the Royer oscillator does not have a capacitor across the transformer and relies solely on transformer saturation to oscillate. This circuit is known by many names, I used to call it a Mazzilli driver (actually this one is a bit different, as it uses a feedback winding to drive BJTs, rather than diodes to drive MOSFETs), but other people may call it something different. In academia I'd probably call it a "self-driven resonant current-source inverter." It uses a parallel LC circuit (the primary of the transformer and the 68nf capacitor) at resonance, which is current limited by the 68 uH inductor connected at the transformer centre-tap. As it doesn't rely on driving the transformer all the way to saturation and it operates at resonance, allowing zero-voltage-switching, it's much more efficient than a Royer oscillator, especially when MOSFETs are used instead of BJTs.

[@blg53]

I heard this circuitry referred to as "Harmonic Royer". Presence of the capacitor between collectors allows with the right tuning to produce a sinusoidal output. "Pure Royer" can't do that.

[@MaxPivovarov]

Baxandall converter

[@bryanspencr]

@@MaxPivovarov in this case it was a banjaxed converter

[@_..-.._..-.._]

This guy electronics

[@michaelcherry8952]

The problem with copies of copies of copies is that inevitably errors creep in, especially if you throw in the business of using the components to hand, rather than the optimal parts. I would be kind of leery of using an ozone generator in an enclosed place like a car. Sure, the instructions might say in badly translated English that the device is to be used only when the car is unoccupied, but given that you can just plug it in to the standard cigarette/12V power point I can see someone driving around with the thing activated. Ozone also doesn't play well with rubber, plastics, fabrics, paint and metal (all of which you find in the interior of cars) so you might just be shortening the life of door seals, upholstery, plastic trim parts and wire insulation if you leave the thing running for long periods. Maybe just not smoke or eat fast food in the car so it doesn't smell. If you're transporting a bunch of smelly footballers home from a match, well that's what the roof rack is for!😂

[@williamromine5715]

Those of you who are long time fans of this channel will know that I am the channel's village idiot. At the age of 82, I don't understand electronics and I ask some really dumb questions. So this one is probably also dumb, but why are there so many devices producing ozone? Humans have been around for eons without having the need of ozone devices, and why do so many of such devices not work? To those who wonder why I subscribe to his channel, if I don't understand what he says, his voice is so soothing that he takes away the cares of the day.

[@bigclivedotcom]

You're definitely not the channel's village idiot by a long chalk. Ozone and an orgy of other exotic, but short lived molecules are constantly generated in outdoor air by nature. Indoor air goes stale quickly as the active molecules revert back to a more stable form. Devices like these can emulate nature indoors when used in a sensible manner, and keep the air fresh and sterile.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

I’ve tinkered with these after using the rental grade ozonator odor removers. I got 2 that were intended for hunters to deodorize their gear inside the truck, the first one worked for years for occasional odor removal on a jump start pack and overnight in cars. That one died and wouldn’t make ozone. The second one never worked and I could never figure out why. I was amazed the first time I heard about an electrical odor remover, it seemed like magic.

[@Pulverrostmannen]

Yes! We like when Clive talk about Ozone devices!

[@jussikuusela7345]

In some of the newer cars, the cig lighter sockets no longer stay powered for a long period after you turn the engine off. For example in mine, a 2009 Ford. In some sense this s good, because some people run their USB to FM transmitters in their cars to have MP3 playback, so these will eventually be turned off without further intervention. But for the sake of charging devices or operating these gadgets, you would need to wire a separate permanently hot or manually switched socket. In all my previous cars the sockets were always powered.

[@silverecco]

Interesting. I grew up with Japanese cars, 87, 92, 97, 04, and they were all tied to accessory / ignition. The Dodge vans at work are the first ones I've used that are always hot. I thought it was a new thing! It's quite useful, but I've had to get used to unplugging chargers. One van has both with a key or battery symbol on the cover which is nice. Key one never worked, and I can't be bothered to fix it.

[@jnharton]

I think it's been that way for a fair while, to be honest.

[@dgk42]

Over the years, watching your videos, I love the variation of devices you take apart, and the liquids you put into a SodaStream :) I'm still learning, and you are a great help.

[@nomusicrc]

Thank you for showing us how it works after you fixed it

[@markmurphy3578]

I haven’t thought about cold cathodes since I worked on analogue trunk switching. They used to be used for register translatiors and we had to test them by blanking out lights to see if their performance was affected. Fantastic!

[@lesbrown5829]

As soon as I heard him say ' cold cathode' I immediately thought of the magnetic drum (drums) register translators (RT's). Last seen in Glasgow Clyde GSC many moons ago......😊

[@markmurphy3578]

@@lesbrown5829 RT4’s. I worked in Rampart O/G unit in London. We must have had around 18-20 of them. Murder if there was a power flick. Screwdriver 5A at the ready!

[@lesbrown5829]

​@@markmurphy3578 Also remember checking new translations on the digscope(?) , infernal contraption with little blue flashing tubes representing binary digits. I think we had one full suite of them, so probably 8.

[@snakezdewiggle6084]

Cheers Clive 👍 Think I'll have a go at improving this one. Reminds me of the old school, camera flash.

[@alpcns]

That dot added to the winding as "quite useful" was hilarious. Love BigClive's humor.

[@Hamradio101]

Triggers broom i wonder how many people got the reference excellent as always mate

[@mikecurry6847]

I honestly wouldn't use these in my car even with me not in it. I used to use reactive oxygen species to control mold in grow rooms and it reacts with plastic. It'll make various types of plastic brittle over time

[@fredbloggs4867]

Only Fools and Horses reference (13:58) made me chuckle :)

[@phonotical]

Is it truly dead when it never worked to begin with 😅 The only thing about the diode before a neon is I've found it'll allow the neon to light at a much lower voltage (about 90vdc) and that's only if you want to try and cheat it's brightness You're right with triggers broom though, couldn't think of a better analogy

[@anonymus1234_]

Clive does so much theory for everything with his notepad lol

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

Very interesting, Clive! I bought one of those a few years back and it didn't work. I thought "another crappy Chinese product" and just set it aside. After this video, I must go through the boxes of broken electronic parts, to see if I find it - you got me curious enough to justify the effort :-)

[@markfergerson2145]

Copying a copy of a copy etc can work if the copier understands how the thing works, and what the critical values and characteristics of the parts are. Using what transistors that you have on hand can also work if you can substitute other parts to compensate but if you don’t test those parts to make sure they’re in spec, you get what Clive found.

[@willemdodgerford5782]

Never ever heard of a car plasma unit! Cool

[@kenw.1112]

IT'S ALL GOOD MR. CLIVE! I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THEY ARE REALLY AWESOME. I BEEN A TECHNICIAN SINCE I WAS 15 YRS OLD. ELECTRONICS FLOWS THROUGH MY VEINS. L0L but True. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORKS !😊

[@chrisstorm7704]

I’m reminded of those plasma cluster units with a positive and negative set of carbon fiber brushes in somewhat close proximity. If I recall correctly, the effect was basically that of an ionizer with increased ozone production. Perhaps this was shooting for the same goal but coming from the opposite direction. It sounds like the diode makes it a worse ozone producer but helps it double as in ionizer. If ozone production is already on the high side, that might make sense, I guess.

[@robinbrowne5419]

When I first jabbed my thumb on this video it somehow ended up at 6:00 minutes. My brain immediately saw RYOBI and I was convinced that this was a schematic of a Ryobi drill complete with 12v battery connection. When Clive started saying "This is a classic Royer oscillator" I was thinking "What on earth is Clive yammering on about" and I was even about to leave a comment that Clive must be off his rocker. Fortunately, after reading some of the comments, cooler heads prevailed. Lol.

[@twocvbloke]

Always fun trying to diagnose faults caused by basing designs on 14th generation copies of an original and using whatever components are to hand that looked right... :P

[@medienmond]

Which version do you recommend and what exactly has to be fixed? Is it only the Diode that has to be removed in one version? Maybe you have a link to the better design of the two for me, where to ebuy this gadget with guaranteed possibility of a refund after the sale. ❤ your content !

[@wisher21uk]

Interesting gadget shame it didn’t work properly thanks Clive 😊

[@d.t.4523]

That's funny. All the companies are copying each other. Thank you, keep working.

[@ricoma6037]

Thank you! 👍

[@crystalsoulslayer]

Clones of clones of clones... A game of Circuit Design Telephone. I think there was an episode of Star Trek TNG about why cloning clones is a bad idea.

[@Quickened1]

"I don't know if you'll hear this" 13:36, my tinitis kicked in...

[@rucker69]

That's a weird looking shotgun cartridge.

[@robertfitzjohn4755]

We have two Toyota cars, and the 12V sockets are switched off when the key is removed (or in the "off" position). This means they couldn't be used to power devices such as camping lights or ozone generators while the car isn't in use. I found this out when I tried to use an electrically powered tyre pump while my car was turned off.

[@tin2001]

Pretty much every car ever turns off the lighter socket once the car is off. Some might delay it 10-30 seconds, but it goes off. Even sockets in the rear of large 4WD vehicles where they suggest a fridge might be used will have it switch off when the car is off. You don't want to flatten your battery by running unexpected high current devices.

[@AlaskanInsights]

I was never a big fan of oscillators like that. my instructor would wallop me upside the head and send me to the deans office for more corporal punishment LOL.

[@subigirlawd_7307]

Imagine having Clive as a teacher and failing electronics class becuase I keep forgetting the wee dot on my schematics reports...😢

[@bigclivedotcom]

If I was marking the test papers I'd take a relaxed but sensible view.

[@sebastian19745]

That rectifier circuit is strangely similar to the voltage doubler used in an microwave oven to power the magnetron with HV. Basically rise the 0V to the peak of the output voltage if I am not wrong.

[@bigclivedotcom]

But just the peak voltage, it rides on top of the peak AC voltage too.

[@grezdh]

Wohoo a new video came...

[@philoso377]

Nice video and presentation. Without the diode the O3 element is presented with E volt ac and with the diode the O3 element is given 2*E volt dc, 50% duty cycle. If O3 requires ac operation, remove the diode. For dc? Keep that diode.

[@vhfgamer]

I want something like this to get rid of the horrible air freshener smell that someone put in a used car I purchased recently. I tried leaving the windows open for a few weeks, but the stench still remains.

[@RJFerret]

If you have Ozium spray where you are, it removes airborne odors (even smoke) with fewer downsides. With several applications decades ago I turned a smokers car into one nobody could tell had been. It's used in hospitals too.

[@nathantron]

Ya know... We haven't seen much burning of things lately. Maybe you should look into some more naughty Chinese hardware. XD

[@MasterBakerVideos]

Could you do a vid on "EL lights"? There's these string shaped lights powered with 3 v batteries or 12 volts. Apparently uses high voltage converted.

[@bigclivedotcom]

They usually use low frequency (100Hz) AC at enough voltage to hurt. The output is usually very dim and gets dimmer rapidly over time.

[@andygozzo72]

2sc945 is a very common type, listed as audio amplifier and low speed switching, and general purpose use, i've 'scavenged' many from scrap equipment plus previously bought some new for a repair on a 'portable' pc ..

[@umbrellacorp.]

When you can't roll down your windows buy this. And get out of your car.😏👍💯

[@bigern73]

I was totally lost until the "wee dot"

[@paulvale2985]

🤣

[@Woffy.]

"The pale Black dot" ? What would have Carl Sagan have made of that.

[@terrym1065]

Does the color of the neon gas make any difference in the coronal discharge? Blue as opposed to Pink? 😉

[@bigclivedotcom]

The gas is just there to couple current to the inner glass wall. They could be any colour.

[@Broken_Yugo]

I think an ordinary neon filled NE2 would work here, blue everything is just the style of the time.

[@mattyb7736]

Yep, sure does. If you use a pink Neon lamp you must also have fluffy dice and be driving a pink caddilac and be wearing leopard skin pants, otherwise it just won't work 😂

[@sarkybugger5009]

@@mattyb7736 And a girlfriend called Tracey?

[@mattyb7736]

@@sarkybugger5009 i was thinking of the pimp in magnum force, but your comment works 🤣

[@erichpwagner]

Doesn't that diode clamp the mesh at one diode drop above ground positive and allow huge negative peak voltages, so it kind of is a negative ion generator?

[@mmmm768]

Hi bigclive

[@smalcolmbrown]

Thanks :)

[@georgeemanson]

Clive...interesting video....... if you don't recommend this unit..... what unit do you think is best to buy for your car?

[@melwick04]

What about the osram in car air purifier? I’ve seen it dotted around in various shops, I’m sure I read it claims UV filtration, would make an interesting video

[@bigclivedotcom]

Already done. It claims to use photocatalytic cleaning.

[@AgentLokVokun]

I had something like this before. It was a flashlight with a 12v male car charger end on the other. It has some lithium cell on the inside. Anyways, it was a gift for Christmas and the only way to charge it was plug it in the car. So I was warming up my car and plugged it in. Thing started on fire. I suspect the battery was installed backwards and when it charged it went nuclear.

[@u.e.u.e.]

Sell it to a flatearther and tell him he can use it for desinfecting his swimmingpool! 🤪🤭🤣

[@N100NXX]

What would be the ideal to use in a vehicle?

[@ralphj4012]

Presumably, had this device been powered and worked, there would have been more than one discharge when the driver unscrewed the top (which looked far too easy).

[@KJ6EAD]

What's the minimally invasive way to make it work?

[@SullySadface]

I dig that pen

[@chrishartley1210]

If you take the diode out, wouldn't that mean that the neon bulb is operating on every cycle rather than every other cycle? Perhaps the original designer found that it made the neon bulb burn out too quickly or generate excess ozone and put this in to reduce the strain/output. This was then copied into the production of this unit with no actual knowledge of what was happening.

[@bigclivedotcom]

The neon is running at extremely low current. The AC is required for proper operation of a dielectric barrier corona discharge generator.

[@dcallan812]

well I guess if you feck up the design and only find out once you had 50000 made you might as well try selling them to unsuspecting ebay customers. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 great video 2x👍

[@snakezdewiggle6084]

I'd rather issue a recall, fix then, and learn from my mistake. Sales statistics says, good-wiil = Brand trust = loyalty = Money. It's printed in bold at the top of page 3. How short-sighted you are.

[@jnharton]

If it's just a useless item and you just scam some people you're a jerk. But someone who "pawns off" something that's genuinely dangerous on the unsuspecting, you might end charged with homicide. --- It's worth thinking twice about the consequences.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

@@snakezdewiggle6084he’s talking from the pov of someone that makes dangerous cheap Chinese electronics in the first place. They aren’t exactly UL approved, so I agree that they said “whatever, just ship them out for cheap”

[@_..-.._..-.._]

@@snakezdewiggle6084these are unbranded or fake names products. There’s zero brand recognition in the generic electronics world.

[@snakezdewiggle6084]

Careful now, your ignorance is showing.!... Are you all afraid of money.?

[@Woffy.]

Ahhhhhh " Humble Pie " , best eaten when fresh

[@voltare2amstereo]

Does the neon have to be blue? Can a normal neon work if wrapped in mesh

[@bigclivedotcom]

Yes. But it has to be high frequency and high voltage.

[@rocketman221projects]

You don't need any fancy equipment to measure low resistances. Just pass a known current through the device while measuring the voltage drop and calculate the resistance with Ohm's law (R=V/I). Be sure to use a 4 wire connection to get an accurate measurement.

[@mikebond6328]

How does one use a 4 wire connection?

[@rocketman221projects]

@@mikebond6328 Measure the voltage from the point you want to calculate the resistance from. Connect the current source to the device under test separately. That way you are not measuring the contact resistance and test lead resistance. Look up "Kelvin connection" for more information.

[@allenlutins]

@@mikebond6328 That requires a multimeter capable of "4-wire measurement". Bench units often have this - handheld units seldom do.

[@BedsitBob]

You might struggle to run it with the car unoccupied, because many cars have the cigarette lighter socket wired through the ignition circuit, meaning it isn't live when the ignition is off.

[@vhfgamer]

I have yet to experience a car like that.

[@BedsitBob]

@@vhfgamer You evidently don't drive a Mk7 Fiesta.

[@vhfgamer]

@@BedsitBob The heck is that? Some sort of italian car?

[@BedsitBob]

@@vhfgamer It's Ford. haynes.com/en-gb/sites/default/files/styles/unaltered_webp/public/6407_Fiesta_model_pic.jpg?itok=nOHWQJ3e&timestamp=1654082555

[@BRUXXUS]

Do you think this might have been originally intended as, or design stolen from a small negative ion generator that they just tried to repurpose into an ozone generator?

[@bigclivedotcom]

I think it might be a universal PCB.

[@simoncoker3180]

Huh huh, Clive draws a GILF

[@bassblom]

clive, can you explain this.. I got me a cheap aliexpress CO2 meter. a few weeks before I had a way more cheap ioniser. just curious I placed the CO2 meter about 30CM below the ioniser.. oops, it raced from 430 tot over 1500 in no time and started beeping.

[@bigclivedotcom]

It's possible the electrostatic charge was affecting the sensor.

[@frederick6008]

How many amps does it draw? Would your battery be dead in the morning?

[@bigclivedotcom]

I wouldn't leave it running for a long time

[@matthewmiller6068]

"stripping atoms apart" well if it did we might have a new most dangerous device on eBay... the fission air cleaner?

[@rohitkhanna4487]

no link for buying this unit.....would appreciate if there was a link to the listing....

[@LukaSauperl]

Why's the pen called Sign pen? I have two of these, because I thought that they would be quite thin, but they turned out to be quite thick! What am I not understanding correctly?

[@bigclivedotcom]

I'm not sure why they call it a sign pen, other than possibly making it for drawing small signs. It is designed to produce a thick line. They also sell harder tip versions that do a much thinner line.

[@curtishoffmann6956]

Autopsies! Dr. Coroner BigClive, we need autopsies!

[@inventorkr1]

Good ✅

[@boden8138]

If only they had paid the Big Clive design consultation fee. 😢

[@paulkroon4931]

What confuses me about the schematic is that the zero line at the bottom connects to the coil that drives the ionizer bulb. It is a zero line, right! No wibbly wobbly electric signal there.

[@bigclivedotcom]

The zero volt line is just the circuits general reference line.

[@pizzablender]

Is that device meant to get rid of the "dead car smell"? Perhaps exchanging it for "new car smell"?

[@bigclivedotcom]

It does attenuate stale smells.

[@Lvvcassss]

Dud on arrival :)

[@Legomanfred]

Great video taking us into the "O-zone". Break down and explanation were very comprehensive. Thanks for this. Always interesting. 👍❤️💪

[@asmotaku]

Sir Clive, why did you draw a crying little ghost @2:10 ?

[@Broken_Yugo]

This might be the first time a cheap Chinese thing on here could stand some more Muntzing rather than less.

[@oldbatwit5102]

Yes yes but.... Will it surge?

[@PenryMMJ]

Interesting device. If you really want to add some ozone inside your car, isn't it easier to just open the window?

[@bigclivedotcom]

Yes. But not always a good thing on a crowded road or in hot climates.

[@goodh2o]

Confession is good for the soul.

[@cooperdove9929]

I just wish that this wasn't completely over my head 😔

[@bigclivedotcom]

Don't worry. If all falls into place over time.

[@cuteraptor42]

It's just a 1.2W car heater, the design is fine

[@yuumi925]

what if u use those translations from a old florescent light bulb?

[@bigclivedotcom]

The ones in CFLs might work, but are quite specialist.

[@anonymus1234_]

does ozone smell lemony? just wondering

[@bigclivedotcom]

It smells bleach-like.

[@hugegamer5988]

So if it’s a clone of a clone of a clone, how long before it starts to resemble a telephone?

[@72polara]

I wonder what would happen if I plugged one of these into my positive ground DeSoto.

[@bigclivedotcom]

It should work OK if the socket is wired with the correct polarity.

[@GothGuy885]

very interesting way to generate Ozone using a neon bulb! I have never seen this before. I am used to the needle or carbon fiber method

[@sootikins]

Needle or fiber is for ion generation. Electrodes separated by dielectric barrier (like the device in the video) are for ozone generation. Two different though similar processes.

[@janami-dharmam]

this is the classic lab technique to produce ozone- it is called silent electric discharge. oxygen molecules get dissociated at the glass surface and then they attach to another oxygen molecule. The needle attached to a high voltage produces very little ozone but useful for producing negative ions - electrons are emitted and they attach to the gas molecules. Because the circuit is not completed, the current is going to be very low.

[@tonymahon8723]

Wow, I bought something like this years ago. It has a nearly identical circuit except that it was meant to produce negative icons. It has a carbon fibre cluster instead of a neon. They use a 3mm led for the blue glow. I couldn't feel a real difference so I threw it in my odds and sods bin. Now after watching this video, I decided to look at it again and the carbon fibres are nearly nonexistent. Thanks for this peek into how this unit works (I now know it's not a ripoff), and thanks for all the effort you put into all of your vids. Cheers mate! 👍

[@TechGorilla1987]

I would love to have a legit one of these. What might one search for to find such a thing?

[@PavelNygryn]

​@@benjurqunov Usually to kill bacteria and fungi/mold living there. Most likely in seats and in the floor carpet. It also fights odours. Good idea is not to be inside while you "sterilize" the interior.

[@bigclivedotcom]

The tricky bit is finding a real one. There are many fakes with an LED and fake circuitry.

[@TechGorilla1987]

@@benjurqunov Where in my comment did I mention that I want it for when I am in the car?

[@benjurqunov]

@@TechGorilla1987 So you admit you'll be using it inside a car ?

[@TechGorilla1987]

@@benjurqunov Are you sure you're carefully reading the words in my initial comment? I mean, study it out. You're probably looking to school me on the dangers of ozone, and I guess that's a noble cause, but I neither desire nor did I ask for your concern.

[@farmazooticalz]

This is the same broom it's had 10 different handles and 12 different brush heads 😂

[@allenlutins]

Ship of Theseus

[@opexo]

ebay link please?

[@asiano3385]

11:11 I think it would get really interesting if this device was stripping atoms apart when powered in a vehicle.

[@sootikins]

Kinda like having your very own Mr. Fission

[@oldfatbastad6053]

clives drawn neon lamp looks like jeremy beadle giving the middle finger.

[@jadenhuibregtse501]

I believe they were missing some diodes.

[@Cassandra_Johnson]

Could this drive elwire?

[@sootikins]

Doubt it. The frequency is way too high. My semi-educated guess is that the EL wire would light up insanely bright for a few milliseconds then go out and never light again.

[@bigclivedotcom]

EL wire is a much lower voltage and frequency.

[@fredfred2363]

Using the (isolated) ht output from a microwave transformer, across a plate of glass with two foil electrodes- doesn't work. No ozone. Nothing. Can't figure out why.

[@bigclivedotcom]

I'd really recommend against using a microwave transformer for anything like that. They are the biggest electrical killer in modern homes. The raw high voltage output may actually be too low for anything but the thinnest glass. A neon sign transformer would work better for something like that. (Also capable of giving a strong shock.)

[@zindi1138]

how odd

[@richardbriansmith8562]

Awesome Video Big Clive🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@holderbee7811]

It's a real one.... but it doesn't work.... I would show you it working... but it doesn't work -That's what someone said

[@paulregner5335]

Do cars in the UK still get cigarette/cigar lighters in them? My 2014 model year Ford has neither a cigarette lighter nor an ashtray in it. More US government intervention determining what's best for people, I guess.

[@RB-qq1ky]

In the market I’m familiar with (Asia-Pacific) Ford used to supply what they called a ‘smokers kit’ option, which generally consisted of a patch panel which added a cigarette lighter to the existing 12v ‘power supply’ outlet and an ashtray which either replaced a trim panel somewhere centre dash or replaced a cup holder. Not available for all models though. I suspect EU & UK models would have the same arrangement. I’m surprised the US market doesn’t have it as an option?

[@bigclivedotcom]

I think they tend to call it an accessory socket now.

[@paulregner5335]

@@bigclivedotcom I initially thought that until I read numerous warnings in my owner's manual admonishing against trying to stick a cigarette lighter in the accessory socket. I finally just gave up and quit smoking altogether.

[@georgeprout42]

My 2016 car has an "accessory socket" aka cigar lighter. It also came with a UK socket in the back from an inverter that I keep meaning to look at more closely.

[@robertfitzjohn4755]

My 2009 car has an actual cigarette lighter. My wife's 2015 car has the 12V "accessory socket" without the cigarette lighting gadget.