Dead Cells v3.0 | All Melee Weapons Tier List (2022)

This one was a doozy to make. The Dead Cells 3.0 melee tier list is here! After weeks of preparation, and talking with other people about the placements, I'm happy to announce the final product. Totaling over 70GB of footage and 18 pages of scripts, this video is by far the most time I've spent on a video. All I ask in return is a like on the video. It'll really help me out. Anyways, grab some food or a drink, because this one is quite long.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro and placement criteria
2:26 - Abyssal Trident
3:18 - Assassin's Dagger
4:15 - Balanced Blade
5:03 - Bladed Tonfas
5:55 - BloodSword
6:39 - Broad Sword
7:21 - Bone
8:37 - Crowbar
10:16 - Dagger of Profit
11:27 - Flashing Fans
12:14 - Flawless
13:19 - Flint
14:05 - Frantic Sword
15:18 - GiantKiller
16:47 - Gold Digger
17:42 - Hand Hook
18:51 - Hattori's Katana
19:26 - Hayabusa Boots
20:13 - Hayabusa Gauntlets
21:00 - Impaler
22:05 - Iron Staff
23:03 - Machete and Pistol
23:54 - Maw of the Deep
24:54 - Meat Skewer
25:40 - Nutcracker
26:30 - Oiled Sword
27:11 - Oven Axe
28:04 - Panchaku
28:39 - Pure Nail
29:52 - Queen's Rapier
30:41 - Rapier
31:32 - Rhythm N Bouzouki
32:21 - Sadist's Stiletto
32:54 - Scythe Claws
33:52 - Seismic Strike
34:27 - Shovel
35:00 - Shrapnel Axes
35:32 - Snake Fangs
36:25 - Spartan Sandals
37:17 - Spiked Boots
38:35 - Spite Sword
39:35 - Swift Sword
40:31 - Symmetrical Lance
41:14 - Tentacle
42:12 - Tombstone
43:00 - Toothpick
44:03 - Torch
44:39 - Twin Daggers
45:11 - Valmont's Whip
45:56 - Vorpan
46:39 - War Spear
47:30 - Wrecking Ball
49:01 - Wrenching Whip
49:29 - Final Placements
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[@Pseychie_DC]

Take a drink every time I say "weapon". Psst, if you like anime, you might enjoy this new upload over on my anime channel: "Why JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is the PERFECT Shounen Anime": kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHTUY5yvrsmUeLM PS: "Noteworthy synergies" are not exhaustive; It doesn't include every synergy with the weapon, it only shows specific combos that I think will work particularly well.

[@tonghao2361]

Ok

[@raazali130]

Thanks for the effort man

[@dantealighieri1265]

rip everyone doing that xD

[@agarztheyounger]

Mf i can't see straight rn

[@Summer_193]

I have alcohol poisoning now. Thanks (◔‿◔)👍

[@karlhnedkovsky5214]

Fun fact: The melee weapon "The Flint" is actually the severed arm of Concierge put on a stick! (Note how the charged crit attack does the same flame wave as Concierge does in his fight before jumping)

[@MsHojat]

Isn't The Concierge related to how you unlock it as well?

[@karlhnedkovsky5214]

@@MsHojat Yep! Drops it on first defeat!

[@jacksonmastin1005]

You can also hear his attack noise when you charge it. Cool detail.

[@karlhnedkovsky5214]

@@jacksonmastin1005 Oh yeah! That's right, slipped my mind entirely!

[@ripjohnson7429]

Even cooler fact: Flint has amazing damage potential on paper, but it sucks in reality. Why? Because the displayed DPS is wrong for every Flint but 'Flint I': for some reason it doesn't scale with gear level like it is supposed to, making it deal 1/3 to 1/4 of the damage it should on 5BC. It is one of the most versatile weapons out there if it would do the damage it promises.

[@leonardodesouza659]

as a hollow knight fan, I can say that pure nail is a weird weapon in dead cells. slow attack speed and crit condition always makes me sell the weapon with tears in my eyes.

[@v2jo_re]

I Play hollow Knight too and i think its a pretty cool weapon but it Kills the experience in Bosses since some dont have a moveset that can defend against you Pogoing above it.

[@mubashir21]

I think it is made D tier purposefully for the hardcore gamers.

[@recursiveslacker7730]

You can crit while swiping up too, which can basically lock enemies up in a falling animation. It doesn’t work on elites or bosses, but you can have a second weapon for that. It doesn’t belong in D.

[@ntp5358]

​@@recursiveslacker7730 doesn't even work on all enemies, it's breach isn't incredibly high

[@marcellorossilermen2997]

I agree

[@Scroolewse]

I'd personally move the Katana above most of the other S tier weapons. There's a simple trick that makes it absolutely busted: start charging up the dash attack but cancel it with a jump. The closer your jump is to the exact moment the attack would go off, the better. After doing so the next dash attack you attempt will pick up where you left off with the previous dash attack that you canceled. So if there was only 1 frame left when you canceled then your next dash attack will take 1 frame to go off. A dash attack "stored" like this lasts the entire level. You can do whatever you want before unleashing it, it will always be ready. This effectively nullifies the one limiting factor of the Katana making it basically the strongest weapon in the game.

[@joaquinmunozmeschke1919]

Excuse me what this is completely busted, thanks man i didnt knew that

[@nattakritaupparakul8839]

Ah thanks man, Ive been wondering for a while why some times the katana won’t charge and go right to the slash

[@skyslashnova4308]

This also works if you cancel the dash attack with a roll but jump cancelling is usually the safer option to do since it doesn't use up your roll.

[@kienhuynh1614]

Is this intended? I hope the devs won't patch it out I love the Katana so much.

[@TheSometimeAfter]

God I wondered why sometimes the slash was coming out so quick... Like ridiculously so... Makes sense really because I panic jump way more than I should! Quick delete your comment. I want some fun while it lasts!

[@Aigis31]

The Rapier is probably the most fun and enjoyable weapon for me, and I'm still happy to see I'm not alone in thinking it's insane.

[@Laculan]

Rapier got me my 1st bc, love the rapier

[@Gladien]

i got to 4 bc with nothing but a rapier, some might call me im abusing it but lets be real, u gotta use it very aggressively and be ready to dodge/parry all the time. That fast paced style really fits me and its fun.

[@Firelite225]

rapier got me almost all my BCs and helped me flawless collector

[@yishu8282]

I'm gonna watch this after my shift today, but just wanted to comment early! Thank you Pseychie for all your dedication and visible effort you've given to this wonderful indie gem we love so much!

[@andreaslois3074]

The quality of this video is higher than excpected, bravo chief

[@themrrental2509]

Something of note: While the Flawless itself has it's issues, it is one of the best items to use with Porcupack for Brutality builds. Getting your scaling all the way up to 110% makes rolling with this thing hit like an absolute truck.

[@Scroolewse]

huh I never would have thought to actually use the porcupack for straight damage. Still seems hard to justify though considering how starved for mutation slots you can feel on Brutality runs though.

[@iwuanadie1058]

i'll do you one better - queen's rapier. if you're talking about late game, 25+ scrolls, i've used it with cursed sword in the main hand, the rapier in the backpack hit more than the cursed sword itself.

[@parkerlang7863]

Queens rapier in porcupak is amazing

[@bobmartell2073]

Another possibility, to run flawless is using Foresight in the Diverse Deck. While having a numbered curse, Foresight does prevent you from dying if you take a hit but of course only once. However, that hit protection comes back in 5 sec. I would assume that since Foresight prevents you from death via numbered curses I would assume it also prevents the crit trigger for flawless turning off.

[@vdd1001]

@@bobmartell2073 I don't really think it works like that though, since you still got hit even if you didn't take damage, I assume it will reset the count. I think it also resets your "kills without getting hit" counter for perfect doors

[@NuclearRaven13]

Buff Idea: Instead of the Crowbar naturally critting on Beastal enemies, instead making killing such enemies grant you the same crits as breaking door, essentially make rats and bats your doors in biomes without doors. this should be a pretty powerful buff as it crit conditions is essential now breaking doors and killing certain enemies, which you will be doing all the time anyways.

[@duseifert]

Damn thats a good idea

[@Gaze73]

Good that I watched this vid before unlocking crowbar. It's just 5 cells but it's a trap.

[@LordOfTheFatties]

The rating for FLint is interesting to me. I've always found it to do ridiculous damage! But I have not gotten to 5BC yet, so that's good to know.

[@sk8erbyern]

my third run I got an orange Flint III-L with a 150% damage on frozen enemies. I got frost items on my 3 other slots and got my first boss cell in 3rd run. Star upgrade for Flint makes it so that you do not have to charge it. It is pretty busted

[@-42-47]

My experience exactly, crit or no crit that thing hits like a truck!

[@sejongwilliamson5667]

As someone who recently beat the collector, I have to say I think the flint is incredibly good. Not only is it probably the best legendary in the game (not really sure on this, he doesn't talk about it anyways), but paired with predator, you go from enemy to enemy one shotting them. Charging is just a bit easier to pull of than he says

[@manuelrabuffetti]

You can really tell the effort that went into this, good job!

[@isa660]

Hey! I love your videos, they inspired me to go back to dead cells and I finally beat the hand of the king for the first time a few days ago. It's really exciting and satisfying to see 5bc runs and I can't wait to get there myself!

[@playerpogg]

The tier list came out earlier than I thought Boy, that's gonna an awesome hour!

[@AljoschaW1993]

Amazing I love your Tierlist :) Looking forward for the Next Tierlists

[@rafaelcorreabitencourt8923]

awesome production, congrats for your effort and dedication

[@pluralityofeyes]

Pseychie-- I want to compliment you on all your Dead Cells content. Your videos are very well done and you've truly enhanced my appreciation of the game. I used to really shun certain items and playstyles, but your videos did a lot to convince me to keep trying out new approaches and Dead Cells is now one of my favorite games. You have a talent for making videos, and honestly, just teaching about things in general. Thanks!

[@cynderalian]

Concerning the Pankachu, I think I heard somewhere that it also can reflect bombs, making it slightly different to the Vorpan. Also, faster attack speed.

[@signorzanchi7493]

Yes, the part of the combo where it creates a whirlwind with the the panchaku reflects bombs, but only that part of the combo. Is a bit situational but still a cool gimmick.

[@v2jo_re]

And a Lot more Potential For Instinct of the master of Arms, and If you have the Hook you can combine instinct and scheme cuz you can have a constant cooldown reduction, which means you can constantly use scheme which is incredible For late Game Bosses.

[@Bladieblah]

It has a completely different combo from Vorpan, just the same crit condition. It's slower and clunkier and I assume more powerful to balance it out but I haven't played it much myself

[@orangesmoothie8972]

For giant slayer, a good strategy for not having to use it in biomes is just dropping it at the beginning of biomes and switching to the weapon in your backpack, then picking it up later when you enter the next biome

[@Voldrim359]

Close to a teleporter i assume, still, not a bad idea

[@gabriellemos2491]

Thinking is hard, so he did not mention this

[@ancientautumn9987]

Great work on this video. The quality was incredible.

[@TheGrinningGamer]

Your hard work does not go unnoticed. A great video that I will come back to reference in the future. Good on ya, man!

[@Kaliskot]

Thank you so much I’ve waited ages for an updated version

[@Poillip]

I feel like Tombstone is underloved. Easily my favorite survival weapon. A huge plus is that you don't need to connect with the first two attacks to trigger the third "burial" attack. It's also surprisingly agile for a Survival weapon. You can float very nicely with the third hit, and even turn mid swing to react to enemies.

[@MelNekoMan]

I once got the *_Tombstone V-L_* and it was completely crazy! It is known that the third attack creates a shockwave that "traps" whoever is near, right? well, that one in particular, created that same chain shockwave as if it was from the same weapon. That time I easily reached 30 Kills with no damage and 60 on the next level.

[@gaigedicus585]

I tried it yesterday and it easily became my favorite weapon!

[@Delapadation]

It often suffers the unique problem of doing too much damage and when you get one that is absolutely broken like I often do when I see it you don't have to worry about boss fights as you don't need the quirk to do large amounts of damage.

[@pawelgrzeszak2130]

Lot of effort and quality put into it. Good job.

[@amenawally8266]

I loved how you talked about the new gear with fair and keek going you're so underrated

[@getchicken5279]

Well Spoken. Some of those lines were really funny and entertainment. Keep up the good work, you always put in so much work into your videos!

[@B1az1ngSuN]

thank you man, subbed and appreciate all the work you put into this. Can't wait to see your take on the Castlevania weapons

[@venzenatti9038]

A common misconception about Sym Lance is the fact that you need two kills at the same time. However, you still get crits if you kill 2 enemies within 1 combo, if your back-to-back hits kill - you still get the sweet crits, and that makes it much more powerful in biomes, and even bosses like Conjunc and Scarecrow. Albeit, you have to focus on keeping the combo a lot more, but I think this weapon deserves A- tier.

[@Fearless665]

loved that video, first one I seen from you, wounderful put together the effort that goes into something like that is overwhelming just to imagine so thank you from every viewer and anyone in the community :3

[@TOTO-bd4if]

watched it all through, thanks for the good work, keep it up

[@jesseboy7951]

Thank you for the efforts, man, really nice video which I enjoyed watching full

[@bersercer]

To make a point of the Frantic Sword, you could also combine it with vampirism to achieve relatively the same effect, although it poses the threat of using vampirism

[@filintodelgado]

Never thought I would watch a video about a video game weapons tear list and enjoy it. Great video gentleman

[@nedeemmalik]

Ur a god for making this, i commented on at least ten videos asking for this. Thank you king

[@oziethemizahsor]

I watched the entire video and i enjoy every second keep it up ❤️

[@admiralmachine]

Subscribed! Thank you for the very informative and fun video.

[@reyals474]

Fantastic video, I've been playing a lot recently and I chose my overpowered favourites early on, but made the tough choice to unlock all the weapons (that I could) and increase my pool despite the clear difficulty increase. It's been way more difficult to succeed since then, but I am really enjoying it. Getting your clear superior thoughts and opinions has opened up my eyes to trying a few more that I really didn't like the look of before

[@Bladieblah]

Dear lord this comment

[@asittingduck4786]

Hey Psychie, I really love your vids and wach them everytime they're out as soon as possible! But I think we're missing something with these tier lists. I think an enemy tier list and how the enemies act may be cool :) Keep up the great work and stay hydrated!

[@SatanClauze]

Really does show that you put a lot of effort into this one - the presentation and dry humor are a cut above the rest of your vids (which were already good). Well done, very entertaining listen!

[@jeffryekaplan]

I dig the Inscryption ost in the background, nice video bro Edit: And PvZ2 too! Love it

[@xXEterniteaXx]

Thnx for including that nice Pvz2 Neon Mixtape tour music!

[@LinkThinks]

Gotta say, I didn't expect to hear Subarashiki Hibi music. Great list!

[@TheTroupeMasterGrimm]

That little “and his music was electric” quip had me so stoked. Love seeing a a caveat to my favorite roguelike

[@merlinlapinqc2657]

nice video, lot of work into it and it show

[@ondrejabraham243]

Big thanks for this video!

[@Rectanglesful]

Your content has improved so much since a few years ago

[@manfrommontreal]

Awesome video!

[@illateral]

outer wilds ost is class. good video as always :)

[@T500Kz]

Thanks ! As a new player I really appreciate the content.

[@jacksterb1238]

The music and references in this video were amazing,and his music was electric

[@highspeakerofthesluglord3475]

I feel like this video shows the good balancing that has happened since the last video as everything is doing better.

[@dariomb1570]

the hook actually pairs really well with the blowdart because the enemies are facing the direction they where in so you can get shots in the back with the blowdart after they have been launched

[@_rage_quitter_11]

I loved the meat skewer. I started using it today and saw your guides and flawlessly beat scarecrow and the Queen. The I-frames it gives are so good that the queen couldn't even land a single slash or parry attack.

[@owerpovered3330]

Rapier with frontline shied, smoke bomb REALLY shreds bosses so fun to play (you can use predator mutation on biomes really op)

[@bandino_]

I really love your videos

[@Volition366]

The rhythm n' bouzouki is not a ukulele, it's a bouzouki. You'd think it would be kinda obvious.

[@ultimateaura7629]

I honestly think wrecking ball can be quite decent if you practice with it a little. And a fun gimmick it has is that the third attack where you throw the ball can go through walls that are thin enough, allowing you to hit enemies that you normally wouldn't be able to hit

[@aeit999]

Liked and subbed, thanks

[@ripjohnson7429]

13:19 Flint is a great weapon and the only reason it 'falls behind' is because it literally does. It is a programming mistake. Flint does not scale with gear level like it is supposed to. You can easily see this when you look at the floating damage on higher BCs that it gets nowhere near its displayed DPS.

[@TheVideowned]

Beautiful dead playing in the background made me wonder if I had another tab with the song open

[@The_jungle_boy]

Absolutely slapped with the hyabusa boots one game, probably my best run yet. So fun to play with, shredded bosses like it was nothing.

[@123leviathan123]

Dude I started laughing so hard when the Umi song came on in the middle of the video. Love it.

[@Apogenezis]

Using music from the Inscription makes this video so relaxing

[@ethandouglas9949]

Watched whole vid, S tier explanations

[@Buufpaqq]

Love the video layout every other tier list just makes a list and doesnt show gameplay and i hate it this is amazing!

[@tommoritz1007]

bro, you outplayed me hard I went straight to the pure nail time stamp

[@belliebun4529]

The pistol shot from the machete and pistol weapon also inflicts fire, so if you get another weapon that inflicts oil (or the affix on the weapon itself) and the “+100% damage to enemies covered in burning oil) affix, it can do some pretty good numbers for its basic moveset.

[@pooplooser6497]

YEAH BOY THAT'S WHAT I'M WAITING FOR

[@ImJustLucasYT]

I'm just gonna comment this one thing: I loved the first time I got The Flint and it had the "All attacks are charged" crowned affix. That was the most fun run I had ever had. Right next to getting a crowned card power. I love that thing so much too, so easy to just not take damage.

[@Gaze73]

Ha, I also had the legendary flint yesterday and knew that would be good enough to beat the Lighthouse for the first time at BC1, I was right. 15K dps is pretty good.

[@belmontzar]

Im glad to hear that my time going into mastering Valmont's whip isn't entirely wasted. I love the extended reach and its ability to ignore shields and take care of those pesky damage barriers is wonderful. I only recently finallly beat the game [by killing Dracula hilariously enough] but I seriously love this thing

[@slyuq]

Yooooooo time to binge watch some dead cells content

[@duseifert]

The bladed tonfas can work with the spartan sandals, if you're close to an enemy, kick it with the sandals and leap towards it with the tonfas, also the Iniciative mutation works well too, since the first hit is the most important

[@Spiney09]

“This will get replayed the most” You got me. I was mostly curious how good/ bar it was. Honestly expected it to suck, interesting that it’s actually ok at some things.

[@Silver-tb7hf]

Rhythm n' Bouzuki, my favorite weapon, which won me my first 2 and 3 BC runs consecutively, in S teir where it belongs. Haven't even watched the rest of the list yet, but that's the best possible start.

[@adamgonzalez9138]

The Sung Jin Woo thumbnail is absolutely sick

[@gabrielefiumano8428]

I Just noticed a Castle crashers soundtrack, nice content

[@Zenith07]

Lmao i just finished watching your Melee tier list from last year.

[@NilsManh1337]

I totally agree with the tier list!

[@defenestrate7544]

It sounded like you were praising the Spartan Sandals only to put it in B? Move those shoes up to A! Great work as always dude.

[@pootytang1158]

this video was fire

[@Antonio_Dude]

I'm glad balanced blade actually got a really good rank and it was actually evaluated unlike last time

[@isuckdragon3978]

YES FINALLY ITS HERE

[@snooglers]

Machete and pistol rework theory craft: similar to the hardlight, it takes up both slots; your melee attacks strengthen your pistol, going from simple pistol shots, to a blunderbuss shot, and capping at a single cannon shot (idea being you have uses for fodder and bosses). Throw in one mutation called Scrounger (or w/e if that’s taken, newer to the game) that speed up the pistol powering up.

[@mdw1049]

Spike boots actually got a pretty significant change when they replaced its old combo with the current rising kick/heel maneuver. What it used to do was regular kick, double kick, regular kick, with incredible high breach on the double kick. In a large majority of cases, the high breach combo'd with the crit condition would allow you to faceroll biomes since you were pretty much guaranteed the stun to interrupt enemy attacks. The new combo leaves a lot to be desired in that sense, especially since it messes up low profiling projectiles from inquisitors and arbiters.

[@dready2576]

Can't wait for ranged one!

[@Soundwave1900]

Great job, my favorite dead cells creator~ I have one complaint though. You rate the weapons based on strength, so why do you sometimes suddenly start mixing in all this "vanilla this braindead that"? A newer player might skip straight to the complete list and think sadist dagger is bad or something... Still, I can't emphasize enough how much I appreciate your yearly tier lists, thanks man.

[@silk5269]

Thank you I recently got into dead cells having a blast but getting my butt kicked and getting a lil lost for what weapons to go for hopefully this will slim down for me thanks again.

[@sagirem]

Actually, learning synergies and what you feel the most comfortable with is way more important. There’s no weapon in the game that’s so strong that it can give you a free win. It’s all about skill, you can end a run with any weapon. For example, some people will have an easy run with broadsword while it would be some other’s nightmare

[@M1K0G3]

For the Swift Sword, you can pick face flask with the affix give you speed buff when you use it. So just keep reroll it

[@hectormeneses9930]

I just started playing Dead Cells on the Switch and I understand why people love it. It's a different game on each run. I started with melee weapons but then I decided to switch to ranged weapons and it feels like a completely different game. As soon as I beat the Hand of the King, I'll go for the DLC.

[@theviralmelon]

I like that you're talking to other people, which is good. It's obvious a lot more thought and effort was put into this than previous lists, and I hope this trend continues for you. I think my biggest issue with the video is that while it is mentioned a couple times, you don't stress nearly enough that tierlists shouldn't dictate your playstyle (i.e. you shouldn't not use a weapon just because it's 'low tier') which I'm sure you'll agree with. You say 'you should unlock everything anyway' a few times but that's not exactly the same thing, and I see new players on the DC discord saying they don't use a weapon because it's low tier or asking if it's okay to use low tier weapons in high BCs, so I would say that is a legitimate problem tierlists cause if proper context isn't given. The video even opens with "So you want to know which weapons are good or bad in Dead Cells?" and that immediately appeals to the 'don't use these weapons, do use these weapons' mentality in my eyes (but I might be reading too much into that). More on the nitpick side of things and because I really like Wrecking Ball, I found your logic in ranking it to be a bit odd. This is how Oven Axe is described in the video before its ranking: "It's to no one's surprise that it's one of the slowest weapons in the game...takes like five seconds to get its damage started." "With enough support and assuming you can chain together hits, the damage potential is absolutely insane...What I'm trying to say here is that from a purely damage perspective, the Oven Axe has among some of the highest in the game. You are going to have to earn your way for a win, but it's no trash item." Verdict: B tier So, it's slow, but it's made up for because of how much damage it deals and because you can maintain the combo by use of support. Cool. Makes sense. This is how Wrecking Ball is described in the video before its ranking: "Almost without a doubt the slowest weapon in the entire roster...the game is really designed for faster playstyles in general, so being slower than enemies can cause you to whiff some attacks altogether." "If the speed isn't too good, what about the damage? Can it hit hard enough...well, kind of...I will admit the damage from the final hit is amazing...but the journey of getting there is not [satisfying]." "You have to slog through three incredibly sluggish hits...and if you dodge roll or stop attacking for even a short amount of time the combo will reset." Verdict: D tier Now, let me just give some statistics here. (You can skip this if you want, it's really me just coping and seething for several hundred characters; TL;DR Wrecking Ball does more damage than Oven Axe faster than Oven Axe; its by no means the slowest weapon in the entire roster nor are its first three hits any more sluggish than Oven Axe's.) Strike chain: > First hit; both weapons deal 200 damage. OA has 0.6s of windup + 0.2s of endlag, WB has 0.7s of windup + 0.4s of endlag. OA is ultimately faster, and since they do the same damage, that means it also has more DPS. // The wiki currently says WB has 0.8s of windup on the first hit; this was reduced in u30 and the new values can be seen by extracting the weapon files via modding tools. > Second hit; OA deals 230 damage, WB deals 180 damage. OA has 0.75s of windup + 0.25s of endlag, WB has 0.62s of windup + 0.25s of endlag. WB is ultimately faster but OA does more damage. WB does more DPS, technically (206 vs 200). > Third hit; OA deals 250 damage, WB deals 120 damage. OA has 0.8s of windup + 0.46s of endlag, WB has 0.7s of windup + 0.1s of endlag. WB is ultimately faster but OA does more damage. OA does more DPS (198 vs 150) // The wiki currently says WB has 0.83s of endlag on the third hit; this was reduced in u30 (thank god) and the new values can be seen by extracting the weapon files via modding tools. > Fourth hit; both weapons deal 500 damage. OA has 0.8s of windup + 0.46s of endlag, WB has 0.8s of windup + 0.46s of endlag. I think you can figure out yourself that their speed and DPS are the same. // The patchnotes say the fourth hit got a speed increase but the files seem to match what's on the wiki so I don't know what's going on with that. It's taken a total of 4.32s for Oven Axe to finish its fourth hit. WB also has an invisible cooldown that prevents you from doing the fourth hit too soon after the third hit -- the value is unavailable in files sadly but I'll assume it's 0.73s to be consistent with u29 when WB just had 0.83s of endlag on the third hit to prevent the same thing (0.73s of cooldown + 0.1s of endlag = 0.83s delay) -- given that, it's taken Wrecking Ball 4.76s to finish its fourth hit. Oven Axe has dealt a total of 1180 damage, and Wrecking Ball has dealt a total of 1000 damage. So Oven Axe has better DPS, right? Well, not quite. Wrecking Ball's fourth hit will hit most bosses and elites twice, doubling its damage, and since its a ranged attack, it benefits from Point Blank for an extra 225 damage (450 total since it hits twice) giving it a total damage of 1450 on the fourth hit and an overall combo damage of 1950. Oven Axe has the distinct advantage of being able to do its crits indefinitely, though, so it only takes two more swings for it to surpass Wrecking Ball in damage at 2180. *So, in total, it takes Oven Axe 6.84 seconds to deal 2180 damage while Wrecking Ball takes 4.76 to do 1950. With Point Blank and on bosses/elites, Wrecking Ball does more DPS.* _(We can even be generous and say you don't take Point Blank with Wrecking Ball which gives us 1550 damage in 4.76s for Wrecking Ball and 1680 damage in 5.58s for Oven Axe; WB still has higher DPS.)_ So what am I trying to say? Basically, you use the logic of speed + damage when ranking both Oven Axe and Wrecking Ball, yet despite its statistical advantage, Wrecking Ball gets a D tier ranking and Oven Axe gets a B tier ranking. Even if you don't spend an ungodly amount of time looking at the statistics between these two weapons for a youtube comment like I just did you can at least see that they're _close._ In the end I do actually think Oven Axe is better than Wrecking Ball, but that's because of the continuous crits and extra range on the melee hits, not because it's faster and more damaging. (Although I don't think Wrecking Ball in D tier is reasonable either -- if I had it my way it would be Oven Axe in B+ and Wrecking Ball in B) If you did take stuff like range and backendedness into account for this video, it would make more sense to me if you focused on or even mentioned them during the ranking instead of just DPS. I guess that inconsistency just really struck me (clearly).

[@mehmetiles8452]

"I'd love to see a dmg buff on the dagger bcs I can barely put this on S-" for the dagger of profit. I don't know why would it need a buff if it's S- already. Very inconsistent.

[@theviralmelon]

@@mehmetiles8452 ...huh?

[@Scroolewse]

Maybe I'm just bad but I just naturally came to the idea that one group of weapons/skills is usable and one group is unusable in 5BC. Weapons like the Swift Sword, the parry staff thing, Magic Missles etc I find just don't seem to do enough. I'm not the type of roguelite player that restarts until I get _exactly_ what I want but I also rarely force myself to experiment. So, I do use weapons I consider bad from time to time but it never seems to work out for me.

[@theviralmelon]

@@Scroolewse Well, some things have a learning curve (and survival is one of those things). They aren't gonna be winning you runs the first time you use them. A large part of the skill in this game is being able to pick up anything and use it effectively. You yourself said that katana was a lot better than it seemed if you learn charge storage techs (although I disagree that it's "busted" in that case; hardly comes close to literally oneshotting bosses with a multihit ranged weapon and smokebomb). The difficulty of using a weapon should be considered but at the same time if this is being judged at a 4/5bc level as claimed, it's reasonable to say that a weapon having a bit of a skill floor is not irredeemable.

[@user-jj8ot2ij2m]

​@@theviralmelon i think people prefer oven axe more than wrecking ball because of biomes wrecking ball have insane damage potential but they are only useful against bosses and elites you don't really need that much damage to kill normal enemies to both weapons, you only need first hit to kill them and oven axes first hit is more faster and have more range and if someone can deal with bosses with the slow speed of wrecking ball, i'm pretty sure that person has no problem dealing with them using oven axe or other weapons too. wrecking ball have really, really huge damge output and that the problem it deals too much damage with isn't that necessary still, killing bosses with wrecking ball feels really awesome those damages fucking huuuuuuuge

[@Hydra-House-Lizard]

honestly, i love spartan sandals as its really fucking funny when you yeet an enemy off a cliff in ramparts

[@Zenith07]

7:26 Its not first 2 Attacks, only with the 2nd strike is needed to hit for it to activate, which is the upswing attack animation.

[@SPCTR0]

I love that Solo Leveling thumbnail ❤️

[@jimmyrustler5801]

I like maw. It's fun and synergizes amazingly with the root grenade/wolf trap. Combine it with a shield and the blind faith mutation and it's constant crits

[@Kxquei]

you used endless despair as an soundtrack for the vid lol, nice taste

[@MisterSadge]

NEW VIDEO BABYYY LETSGPOOOOOO

[@weaboololi5178]

Now this will be interesting

[@twinsanity4991]

13:25 the castle crashers soundtrack lol

[@AlexTheGreatII7]

An extra point for pure nail, it combos extremely well with other melee weapons, like extremely well. I find that blood blade, crowbar, the greed dagger thing idr the name of but it crits when get gold, the bat, starfury, and Swift blade all combo especially well with it. However on kb&m for some reason it can only work if you put pure nail in the left slot, and start with left click and alternate between left and right.

[@phenex5190]

I had written this off as a 2D metroid type game, and the only one of those I enjoyed was hollow knight. Wasn't sure I wanted to commit to that type of game but then I watched some videos finally and yeah, got it on my switch for christmas and super excited, thanks for including lower BC level references

[@hyperomeganebula1703]

spartan sandles also wins the best description award for me