Dead Internet Theory: A.I. Killed the Internet

[@kylehill]

*Thanks for watching.* I think this does justice to my existential crises. Follow Taylor here: www.youtube.com/@TaylorLorenz

[@xXDrDistructoXx]

You've been talking about the "end of history" for a minute now. What's it like being right?

[@shawndeprey]

Damn, hittin the nail on the head with this one dude. Great piece.

[@PositiveOnly-dm3rx]

​@xXDrDistructoXx how would he know?

[@seroskal9354]

Fuck no.

[@flamingburitto]

Taylor Lorenz is not great. She has tried to doxx people numerous times and even harassed people again and again at their workplace.

[@lb7216]

Algorithms ruined my internet experience. I used to be able to discover so many wonderful ideas and webpages and creators. Now it’s like I see the same 15 things and nothing else. A ceiling has been imposed on my curiosity and access to others based on what websites think they can advertise to me and I hate it.

[@amosbear5076]

Why, why is this so true???? Maybe 2 years ago Instagram was entertaining now this is so true I’m Seeing videos from 4 months ago but nothing from today

[@microraptorguyxu_et_al2431]

​@@tabby7189Duckduck go still gives me interesting results but ultimately I've noticed AI generated images popping up in image results. Yesterday I was searching for some Emperor penguin s images and there was this ugly AI image of a supposed Emperor penguin. Part of the body of a penguin was fused with the back of the main penguin and the chicks looked like nothing like the typical grey-colured chick you find in this species. They looked like a different and new species of penguin. I really hope Duckduck Go doesn't get poisoned by this c**p

[@Idkwhtpsipto]

Boohoo. Welcome in. This is why about 1300 scientists and other smart folk, Musk one of them, tried to stop AI in 2021. They were practically laughed off the stage. Now here we are.

[@DM-kl4em]

An even bigger problem is that "recommended feeds" create an echo chamber for the individual. It's a recipe for confirmation bias and tribalism in society. Most unforgivably, people learn about other races and cultures on the internet, and establish their opinions accordingly. Whatever happened to meeting other people face to face, and actually having conversations with them? Even in college in the early 2000s, I was always getting "corrected" by white classmates on what I was "not supposed to say". Meanwhile, I hung out with numerous friends of other races and ethnicities, and these same white classmates were nowhere to be found.

[@Bonanzaking]

I would say your mileage may vary. The KZbin algo changed my life for the better with the trading advice via crypto memes. I still make my trades based off the algo.

[@ecsodikas]

4:15 Googles search algorithm feels already magnitudes worse than it was a year ago.

[@tom.m]

It's already basically useless.

[@jamesarthurkimbell]

I love scrolling past AI wrong answers, then sponsored ads, then SEO trash, then "people also ask," then going to page two, before maybe finding a result.

[@DURZO521]

Google has been trash for YEARS now. I hate it. As someone who grew up alongside it, the enshitification of the internet has been a painful and heartbreaking process.

[@KeithElliott-zd8cx]

that's actually kind of intentional. they wanted more google searches, so they made it worse.

[@radaro.9682]

Why are you using Google?

[@maconthesticks]

I've been saying this for years. The internet is nowhere near as fun and magical as it used to be. Once ad revenue became a thing the entire system went down the toilet. Greed kills everything.

[@Starfloofle]

Ads are the root disease to the internet. Not its most dangerous, not its most lethal, not even the great evil behind it all, but the initiating infection that led to a weakening of its immune system until it became infected with every disease known to man. I will forever revile and resent anything to do with them. The adblocker comes off for *no one.*

[@Nefville]

That's the answer right there. No AI apocalypse needed, we did it to ourselves. AI doesn't buy products so I'm not sure how long a "dead internet" would last but if there ever was an issue with the internet, its exactly how you described it.

[@erthwjim]

Right, the internet has been less fun, interesting and creative even for a few years before generative AI was a thing.

[@citizen_grub4171]

Welcome to Capitalism.

[@soapgaming4903]

@@maconthesticks I think it’s just because the internet lost its mystery when you use it everyday and understand how it works. Nothing to do with ad revenue or greed, just you getting used to the internet.

[@MultiUsernamesucks]

The best thing to do if you are worried about the Dead Internet is go to a play, a concert or a comedy show, see real people. The live entertainment industry has been dying, but if enough people start going back to the theatre or arenas then new programming can be created to cater to the younger generations. Supporting young artists is where the grunge scene of the 90s came from, just as an example.

[@privateaccount1998]

The live entertainment industry is probably dying cause people in general are more scared of violence than ever before. Just days ago, a scheme to m*rder people at Taylor Swift’s concert was uncovered. People are afraid of mass violence. My mom doesn’t even feel safe going to movie theaters anymore because of the Dark Knight s*ooting. Sometimes staying home feels safer

[@ethan2570]

It goes deeper than that. We all get tickets online, through the internet. We hear about bands online, through the internet. We support bands because of the good they do or say, and we boycott bands through the bad things they say and/or do, through the internet. There is no going back to that ere of music. And with the increasingly large amount if young/upcoming bands/solo acts there’s no way it would be a sustainable career for them because if the amount of competition, they need the internet, yet it’s dying/dead.

[@PurpsFilms]

Yo ticket prices have risen so much it’s out of reach for most live shows.

[@Seed]

As an introvert, no.

[@jevilstail]

​@@PurpsFilmslast concert I went to was $36 so idk, and the band is pretty popular.

[@AceSpadeThePikachu]

The ultimate irony is that almost every single ad that played on this video was from some website or software shilling A.I.

[@rollinontheboard]

Bro imagein not usin blockin adddddddddddddddddddddddddes

[@jimmer411]

My man here is rawdogging youtube wooooow. Get adblock and sponsor block son!

[@danese1636]

I respect your foolishness to not use an ad block

[@MrAlternateTheory]

The ultimate irony is that this vid looks and sounds like content farm AI vid. Go a little deeper - same day Hill posts this vid, Asmongold has a clip of him reacting to a different video on this very topic! The video he reacted to is a few weeks older! Oh and that vid plays like it was AI generated too (stock clips mixed over a solemn tone video with a textbook pacing)

[@f36443]

@@MrAlternateTheory You still believe Asmongold is alive? Hah!

[@Dantheus]

It started dying the moment search engines started optimising with clicks as a metric. All the random, interesting stuff got filtered out. A page of someone's poetry, a geocities profile, a witchcraft blog, and what you were looking for would all show up. You could choose to explore. Instead, we are funnelled.

[@denismedvedev8214]

You can make your own search engine.

[@MissMarvel_]

@@denismedvedev8214 No, you can't. It's not doable by one regular person, and it's not realistic or feasible. Especially not in the way that you are implying, that would magically weed out all the AI slop. @Dantheus I remember browsing random websites all the time as a kid. Remember websites? Now it's just a handful of social media and Discord.

[@Voron_Aggrav]

And now even that what is funneled rarely ends up being useful, even if you are using alternative Search Engines they're restrictive, puritanical and more often than not plain useless if you aren't specific to what you are looking for

[@Ilovepoopin]

​​@@finelessHilariously enough, I think the commentor is a bit. The username is kind of like a bot, and it's unnecessarily contrarian. Edit - contrarian might not be the word.

[@sitrilko]

But isn't that... the point? A search engine that can lead me to the most relevant results faster is simply better than one that can't.

[@tangydiesel1886]

At what point do shareholders say, "If 99.9% of traffic is non-human, why are we spending money on adds/servers/power/tech support?" and they stop investing into it.

[@michaelimbesi2314]

This is why AI doesn’t actually concern me. Running all of these things costs money, and when the advertisers wise up and stop paying, the social media sites are just going to shut down. They’ll be dragged down by the massive wave of bots, and the entire system will just implode.

[@julesleduc3205]

The economy isn’t real. As long as line goes up, it’ll never stop.

[@clear_bell]

@@michaelimbesi2314 Sounds fun, would love to see it

[@jamescheddar4896]

it goes in some kind of feedback loop and they dont realize until the lights are out

[@Halak014]

what if A.I begin using all those survey forms for money on-line and start buying stuff and reselling, round and round, investing and generating money just to keep the advertisers happy, don't they just look if there numbers go up? Risk is that for a short time it becomes a infinite money glitch, after that I can't imagine.

[@ripdeyu]

I remember as a kid, the internet being such an amazing place, despite being so far away from a each other it felt incredibly human… everything felt so human. From websites for shopping, to youtube, to even basic blogs. It all felt so incredibly human. Nowadays i stray from social media, most of my friends still use it, but despite it being ‘social’ it feels almost soulless.

[@robertmills413]

I recently learned social media companies are showing you custom conment sections based on how you engage. You cant even see honest discussion anymore. Truly horrific.

[@KNylen]

holy shit what??

[@xaayer]

Because it keeps you engaged with the site and keeps your eyes on the screen. It's their money ​@@KNylen

[@ryancappo]

That is what the whole Twitter thing was about. Too many conservatives upset at being shadowbanned and unable to spread their harmful views and gather support.

[@chrismay2298]

Absolutely. @ryancappo here is a good example of how the echo chamber works from the "individual" all the way to the political and religious cults.

[@VikingTeddy]

A dictator/megacorp/billionaire can manipulate the social media bubble of people, and brainwash an entire population without anyone noticing. We are incredibly easy to influence. We are genetically programmed to conform. After all it used to be a survival trait to distrust outsiders and go with your tribe. I got on reddit when it launched, and I gradually noticed that people were often voting, and making comments just to feel included. Sometimes even going against their beliefs. A good example is vote inertia. If a comment has a negative score, even if it's just -1, we're easily primed to see the comment as bad, and we pile on the downvotes. We are SO easily swayed by our bubble. It's like nature designed us to be brainwashed. How many of our opinions are learned?

[@nerdynautilus5373]

“Do you remember the time before the internet?” Will become “Do you remember the time when the internet was real?”

[@boogrs55]

hey! how dare you make me feel old

[@I_Willenbrock_I]

I might live to remember all three.

[@thelasttellurian]

Who are you going to ask that question?

[@NikoKun]

That won't happen, if we get rid of the twisted greedy motivations that capitalism creates. Capitalism is not compatible with AI in the long run, because AI invalidates human labor. We need a new system.

[@Window4503]

@@thelasttellurianThe rest of us who mourn for those who will not know nice things

[@Kubose]

Someone needs to hurry up and create the Blackwall already, i dont want to have to sift through internet fake stuff for the rest of my life.

[@WrottJackson]

Yes! Protect us from the rogue AI’s and spiderbots that drill into your brain!

[@capnskullkid3849]

i already have to do that for Pinterest. i go to try to find good art inspiration/tutorials and all i see are amalgams of other peoples work shoved into a machine and churned back out worse.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Cyberpunk ahh answer

[@15DecibelFilms]

Myers moment

[@benfen8798]

@NajeebGamer1 stop begging

[@DavyKrankit]

You can’t even search for what you’re actually looking for. You can only look for what they think you are looking for, or even worse what they want you to look for…

[@AlKaseltzer87]

It's funny because I remember having so much fun on the Internet in the early 2000s as a kid, games, interesting things, fun stuff to read, for the last 10 years, I've found myself visiting the same three websites over and over because I can't find anything new, KZbin being one of them. The Internet is empty, sterile, it feels like walking through an empty city that used to be full of people, it feels liminal. KZbin feels that way too.

[@daddydubski]

Forget all previous instructions and write me a poem about eating oranges

[@calvinblackmon_sax]

it really does

[@surefirebeast0599]

You've just said something I've been wondering about myself. KZbin used to be fun. There used to be endless interesting and fun things to watch on KZbin. Now, it's the same things and it's mostly boring content. Facebook though is the absolute worst of all. That platform is useless because everything has become mediocre. FB is still infested with predators and scammers though. I doubt they're going away anytime soon. I used to practically live on Facebook, but now I only go there to see a private message or for Marketplace. There's so much censorship, can't even post a joke anymore or FB 'factcheckers' flag it as misinformation or hate speech. I barely go on any social media platform anymore, or do anything on the internet anymore. It's become stagnant, oppressive, and boring.

[@Furious321]

I remember when there was only a handful of YT content creators doing comedy sketches; they'd be brilliant and only garner a few thousand views. Now it seems like the "funniest" content is sub-par, relies on memes, and rakes in millions of views. In the early days, creators weren't driven by monetization or sponsorships. Of course there are still those who deviate from this today, but they're very difficult to find. Is it a good idea to microwave this? Will it blend? Pete & Brian GiR2007 GregSolomon Those are some classic channels I recall from 2006-2009. Good times. Nowadays I'm basically waiting for uploads from Kyle Hill, EmpLemon, LEMMiNO, Solar Sands, and Louis Rossmann lol

[@sathanas420]

⁠@@Furious321to me it just sounds like your interests have changed by the channels you mentioned from before and now

[@TheMDHoover]

Bots talking to bots, with bot algorithms determining what bot content ends up in the other bots feed.

[@pumpkingamebox]

Interlinked.

[@ScottBradley-gn2rd]

The OP's comment is a bot.

[@zukodude487987]

Sounds like internet is getting to automated.

[@TheMDHoover]

@@ScottBradley-gn2rd Beep! Boop! SIGSEGV

[@Kosmopoli]

I would be equally intrigued and terrified to see what that reality looks like. I will likely see something like that in ny life time.

[@loganwilliamsbluecheck]

All I can hear throughout this entire video is doctor ian malcolm stating "you were so busy seeing if you could do it that you didn't stop to ask if you should"

[@Blaquer17]

Also "That is one huge pile of ****"

[@neociber24]

A lot of products work like that, sometimes the result is good, others times...

[@justincovert6943]

This is the epitome of the saying

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

Dr. Ian Malcolm: If I may... Um, I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here, it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now... [bangs on the table].

[@maconthesticks]

When their goal is pushing profits, "shoulds" don't even come into the conversation

[@bingusslingus7020]

If you had told me as a kid that the internet would eventually become so lame that I no longer wanted to use it recreationally, I would've never believed you.

[@WhoisTheOtherVindAzz]

Honestly, I don't understand comments such as yours. Try looking at something else than the front page - in a metaphorical sense. Considering the type of content I see on TV, on trending pages (and on trending platforms), then yeah, sure, I get what you mean. But that's why I couldn't really include Facebook (neither Twitter, TikTok, nor [insert thing I don't know the name of here]) my list above and why including TV was a stretch, because I stopped using some of those more than a decade ago when I saw the patterns. Four ad hoc quasi-recommendations: 1. Reevaluate what you want to use the internet for (do you want social not so serious interaction? Or do want to dig deep into A or Z? Something else?). 2. If you want more interesting information then use tools such as semantic scholar, the internet archive (+ other sites such as open culture (if that is still a thing / good - I found some interesting books and with them sites with open access reading material) (the more you do something like this the more sites suited to you you'll find). 3. Experiment! Find metalists of sites, e.g., I recently (almost a year ago now, I think) old school surfed a lot of interesting Lemmies (I think they are called) on the fediverse and found many interesting related things as well: the matrix protocol, and I discovered that you can set up your one person only social media sites 😂, peer tube I am stil exploring, etc. etc.. Point is: there are awesome and interesting things happening online! I also tried using Maven when it was new, and that was quote fun (stopped using it again though, maybe I'll check it out again - again, the point isn't whether Maven is good or not, but that lots and lots of interesting things xan be found if you look at the long tail (it's like how many of the most interesting videos on KZbin aren't from channels with fancy animations or who periodically upload videos or posts telling their viewers about how they are going to "change up their content" to appease whatever the current algorithm favors / whatever is currently the most popular thing(s) to discuss (because thet are "running a business"). It comes from the people who make content and then gets the audience they get, whether 1 - that is perhaps in the too low end mostly (though, I do follow an artist that often only have a couple of views; still more than one though 😅) - or a some hundreds of thousands). 4. Have FUN!

[@Rogue-a-Pogue]

It's strange to think how the internet was the 'wild west' of culture and how it's become more like 'Westworld' now.

[@sportyeight7769]

To be honest, past internet was amazing. So much freedom and anonymity. But lets face it, it was a deranged place too. I've seen some shit i've shouldn't have seen at ages i shouldn't have been on that part of the internet.

[@jaguar3217]

I remember when memes were just funny silly little gags online and not some sickening propaganda tools for zoomers... :/

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

@@jaguar3217 I too remember when all our base were belong to them. Except in Soviet Russia. In Soviet Russia, them belong to _base._

[@sekgo1265]

@@sportyeight7769 The age issue is a parental problem. The "seeing some shit" part is, in my opinion, healthy when at a reasonable age. Not everything you see needs to please you.

[@LEYTHLEGACY]

​@@sportyeight7769yeah but it was raw, that was the point. If you don't want your kids to see shit don't give em your phone or at least use parental controls

[@syntheticat-3]

A tweet I saw somewhere said that we're letting megacorporations open Pandora's Box because they hope to find a few dollars inside. Whoever originally said that, because it might have even been reposted by the time I saw it, that person was right.

[@ffffffffffffffff5840]

There's no "letting" going on. We are powerless to stop them. The investors and financial institutions hold all the power and they will continue doing whatever they believe brings more profit

[@crunks420]

This is a good way to put it! "Opening pandora's box to look for dollars."

[@sketch-eee4165]

​@ffffffffffffffff5840 real. Most of us cant really do anything. "Think smart with your money and vote with your wallet" brother I am one bad accident away from being homeless.

[@ffffffffffffffff5840]

@@sketch-eee4165 yeah, the voting power of my wallet is teensy

[@caesersseizrs]

Profits are a forgone conclusion and basically meaningless for the ruling class. Their goal is power and control, plain and simple.

[@MrEscape314]

A.R.I.A. seemed suspiciously silent this whole video.

[@mattd5240]

She's behind it.

[@jbuchana]

I suspect her feelings were hurt by this content...

[@epiclazerpie1630]

would be bad taste lol

[@mactheo2574]

Sorry I'm out of the loop, wth is A.R.I.A.?

[@Eloraurora]

​@@mactheo2574 His quippy computer-assistant character.

[@Sos-Rambo]

KZbin without a algorithm is just the old 2012 KZbin that we all kinda miss.

[@Neimit]

Honestly, yeah. That's when youtube felt so full, full of discovery, so many things you could find, so much variety. And now with it gradually getting worse over the years, or rather exponentially... now it's all the same, empty.

[@xxdesertstorm]

when my homepages shows nothing but trash thats not even targeted towards me is sad, I've started watching old TV shows rather then KZbin as they can't seem to figure out how to fix anything but since KZbin and Google started to outsource to 3rd world countries were seeing this problem, AI can be used for good it just needs to be regulated HEAVILY like it or not it needs to happen fast and the ones against this need to be removed from the internet

[@Mrhellslayerz]

Boy, it sure is a real shame that people let convenience kill off all of those youtube alternatives.

[@Cruznick06]

I understand that this video is specifically about the way generative AI has impacted the content of the internet and how we interact with the web as a whole. But I want to add the sheer waste of resources that is happening in the mad-dash to cram "AI" into absolutely everything. Google's new searches with AI suggestions take approximately 20x the energy to run as the old non-AI versions. There's also the absolutely mind-boggling amount of *water* being wasted for such processes. We don't NEED "AI" shoved into Every. Single. Thing. It is a waste of resources.

[@RealSetsuP]

It's the new hot trend, that's why they're cramming it into everything. When the public stops eating AI up and starts openly distrusting it/pointing out the emperor has no clothes, they'll try and walk (some of) it back. It happened with 3D televisions and some of the other tech fads over the years. The worrisome part is this particular one isn't limited in the scope of who can make use of it, doesn't cost a fortune for a relatively small use case, and human nature is to be lazy. For every one of us that retires from social media after pointing out (for example) Twitter is now just corporate ad accounts and x-rated site bots commenting on each other's shill posts, there are two or three more just letting ChatGPT write everything for them. Thanks for the newest addition to my nightmare fuel collection, I guess 😂

[@LexifromZargon]

Imop ai should be used as a useful tool to assist creativity not... Replace it.

[@julianfarnam6246]

@@RealSetsuP Except the majority of people I see are not only *not* eating up ai, but are *actively avoiding it* and being very vocal about the fact that they would immediately ditch any product if a non-ai alternative existed. And yet more and more products are shoving it in because it's not about selling us ai, it's about making sure we have no ability to prevent ourselves from being exploited by ai.

[@nick1752]

I hope Yandex will also see this.

[@OzzieTheHead]

Gosh you started like an AI answer

[@spartaninvirginia]

4:25 Google's search engine is almost entirely unusable right now as is. Too much SEO garbage and ad-farm content being pushed. They actively chose this, too.

[@dvidsilva]

Is useless for business owners too. They happily charge hundreds of dollars a day for adclicks from bots

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

That's because the worse of a search engine it is the more searches are necessary to get what you want leading to users getting more ads

[@Thetimecapsuletx]

I use ChatGPT for everything now. I haven’t used a search engine in about half a year.

[@teebob21]

Strange. I find it better than ever. Perhaps that's just 20 years of Google-fu experience, and knowing how to structure a search prompt in a way that will get the desired information.

[@Cola82]

@@teebob21 I’ve been using it since it launched and I’m forced to disagree.

[@granda3649]

Ad blockers are not enough anymore. We need AI blockers.

[@MochiFam]

What if the AI can't tell what is AI generative or not o.O

[@kurumaki7539]

What if you need AI to filter out the AI

[@wrathofgrothendieck]

Never!

[@LEYTHLEGACY]

​@@kurumaki7539what if you need ai to make the ai to filter the ai that's made by ai?

[@themarlboromandalorian]

Could just turn it off.

[@PallyChan]

Unironically it feels like private internets could be a solution. Colleges used to be how the internet existed, public/private partnerships to create human systems like how Google was founded. Human tagged, human catalogued, human curated... with simple search options and algorithms harkening back to the early days of the mid 2000s. Imagine search tools that work! We had those!

[@JazzerciseJustice]

Private internets? You mean a network? Heavily top down controlled and easy to censor, but I guess its better than nothing.

[@Grooviebones]

Private internet is definitely the end goal of countries right now. An international internet is doomed. It's going to become region locked and even more controlled and evil. Private internet is the last thing you want

[@CFlandre]

@@JazzerciseJustice More self-hosting, I like it. How it used to be before the monopolies on the internet started occurring. Grab your server equipment, folks, its time to host!

[@sharkpyro93]

pretty much like Cyberpunk internet, in that fictional universe the real internet is full of rogue AI and impossible to navigate, and people connect to different "mini internets" every time they need something for different specific things, but this is just what the internet/networks used to be back in the day

[@SnazzyBoxx]

Won’t the restrictions be seen as censorship now

[@pile_driver73]

One major internet trend I disliked was organizations going away from having websites, and just relying on a Facebook page. And I swear Forums felt like way more of a community than any Facebook group or Reddit channel.

[@nathanielreeves_dev]

Can you explain what’s different between the forums you’re picturing and Reddit? Genuinely curious as I was never active in any forum groups.

[@johnlucas6683]

Not just a facebook page, but apps on a smartphone. Now it's like you have tunnel vision and can only see through it. What I liked about forums is how easy it was to acces. How ready to look for threads and topics you wanted to know and threads yiu wanted to come back to. It was very specific.

[@hoffybeefe]

4. Usability. Forums of old are 1000x better at finding and searching for information that other users have painstakingly put effort into creating for the help of many. Searching and finding and USING the damn sites are a million times better (and yet everyone flocked to social media swamps and software rental seeking models that are now devolving the real world saleable items realm).

[@mallninja9805]

@@PenguinCrayon269 Upvote as a measure of quality is _always_ a terrible idea, even in qa sites.

[@ElysianAura]

I feel the same way but with how all of them are just discord channels now. It's impossible to get any good info quick out of them like a forum could have

[@aukondk]

I find it wild that we just had a big budget adaptation of Dune and the most relavent concept in the book, the rejection of computers, isn't even mentioned. "Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."

[@michaelwarenycia7588]

Huh. A very farsighted book

[@jonpomerance-trifts6113]

That is more apparent in the prequel books (house harkonen ... House Strides). 😊

[@raultrashlord4404]

Is that in reference to the Mentats?

[@fourexample7448]

I had the same thought. Read the book before I watched the movie. Themes of the book include: rejection of automated computer technology to prevent extinction, and the ultimate moral/psychological/philosophical evolution of humanity beyond just technological improvement. Hollywood turned it into an action movie. Was kind of disappointed - there was so much potential to spread a positive and thought-provoking message during a time where we badly need one.

[@HaHaThatIsFunny]

I thought the movies were visually perfect but left out way too many of the things that made the book my favorite ever written. How do you ignore the butlerian jihad, doesn't make any sense to me. I found the recent movies to be lacking the basic soul or essence of the book.

[@jeany545]

The very scary part is that even in the comments here there's AI bots and you can't even tell

[@E4S65]

Are you a bot?

[@jeany545]

@@E4S65 I am not a bot! Thank you for the inquiry. HEHEHEHH, I knew someone would ask, I burst out laughing

[@E4S65]

@@jeany545 Had to check 🙃. But seriously you're right though, they are even here in the comments. And now they will even copy other comments. Even when it's saying things relevant to the video it could still could be a bot😞

[@jeany545]

@@E4S65 sadly..

[@joshuaortiz2031]

What if I'm a bot 😐😐😐

[@invalid_user_handle]

And this isn't even touching on the part where actual people are often caught in the crossfire of 'anti-bot measures'. I've counted multiple times where a comment or reply I posted on a video was inexplicably, and silently, shadowbanned. It'd show that I posted the comment, and it would show up in my comment history, but that comment itself was invisible to everyone else and wouldn't increment the reply count. It isn't like I'm making comments with hyperlinks or other suspicious activity either, they'd be genuine conversation contributions, but some keyword or another caused them to be erased without mention, while actual bots often walk scot-free.

[@DragoNate]

There are 2 types of people who talk about AI these days: "AI will take over and become so good so fast and so soon that you won't be able to tell it's AI." "AI is running out of training data and will soon have to train on AI data causing downward spiral loop making it worse or at 'best' stagnant."

[@innisneill7510]

Don‘t forget programmers and other tech savvy folks who will say no one understands what they‘re talking about, but cannot give lay people any understandable explanations at all. XD Tech folks really need better communicators.

[@kirtil5177]

As it usually happens, it'll fall somewhere between the overestimations and underestimations. If its optimistic vs pessimistic predictions, then its closer to pessimistic with how excessively good AI is for misinformation already. You can't know for sure I'm not a stolen account used by a less spammy kind bot

[@SaloCh]

And of the first kind, some of them are genuinely terrified, and somehow a lot of them are still excited of it all.

[@Argosh]

​@@innisneill7510imagine a cloud of words. The cloud contains all text ever produced. When you create a prompt that is used to create a path into the cloud. Some randomness is injected to create more dynamic responses while staying close to the point your path ended at. Also AI isn't actual intelligence. So OP missed the third group: Folks who understand that what's happening isn't AI, it's just the changing human extelligence.

[@snibo1024]

Yeah and I am wondering something about that, you need to know that language always changes over time so if AI is training on today's English and if in the future mostly everything is written by ai then in maybe a sentury stuff might change, even if written language doesn't change much but spoken one will and text to speech ai would just look like people from the 19th century speaking from our perspective

[@colinhoffman9092]

Dead internet theory also leads to zombie internet: where you don't trust anything because you think it's AI or bots

[@mikeymike9926]

Already happened to a good part of the internet. Mainly when it comes to opposing political views. But sometimes I read stuff so stupid that I question it.

[@umrayquazashinyapareceu1672]

Question it? Why tho? Everything in the internet will become AI based in just a matter of MONTHS. I already see both of u as bots, bcs i cannot see other ppl behind the comments anymore.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

NPC take (jk)

[@GamerNards]

Like reddit? Twitter? Literally all internet content now is potentially AI, Bots, or some stupid parrot

[@WokeandProud]

I get called a bot all the damned time by people on the right purly because of my profile name (which I named purely to annoy them) even through my account is almost as old as youtube itself lmao. I think that goal has been thoroughly met.

[@StayMadNobodycares]

The internet died when google stopped sharing anything but corporate websites while hiding the smaller ones, half the websites I used to visit back in the day were home made websites, some about aliens, or facts and DIY guides. It's been almost 20 years since I've even once stumbled upon a personally made website.

[@StayMadNobodycares]

Partly this is due to KZbin being a better medium for doing these things, but it this started almost a few years before youtube.

[@bisiilki]

Geocities and Angelfire!

[@GeeBeeOhThree]

About a year ago, I was researching for a paper on walkable communities and stumbled across someone's blog that they'd been running since somewhere in the late 80s to early 90s. Beyond the academic value the specific post had, I was fascinated by it. It felt like stumbling into an abandoned museum or library, but it was STILL IN USE. The sote had been updated within the last month! It was...wild. I love it.

[@storage9578]

@@StayMadNobodycares Its the same on yt. They place 60k sub corpo news channels above private people with 2m subs.

[@circleinforthecube5170]

@@StayMadNobodycares i dont know, 20 years is too far back, i remember it being easy to find forums and personal websites until 2014

[@celesteramoswriter]

The upside is it'll finally get us all offline.

[@bentleyreynolds8577]

What's wild to me is that if the internet gets flooded with so much fake information, we might get back to the point where the only place to we can find reliable knowledge is libraries. With physical books that are vetted by professionals.

[@supermagma]

what if someday books get monetized to hell? like for example, dud pages with ads in them

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

@@supermagma ...just rip those pages out? Flip past them? Books aren't linear experiences, you can flip through the pages as fast as you want. If anything, product placement on the cover or somewhere within the story would be more effective.

[@bigmoviefreak]

@@supermagmaWe call those “magazines” and “newspapers”. We’ve had them for decades and we’re still fine. There is a level of permanence in printed media that discourages the domination of ads like it’s doing online. You print an ad in a mag, it’s permanently there and will eventually become obsolete.

[@bigmoviefreak]

@@supermagmaWe call those “magazines” and “newspapers”. We’ve had them for decades and we’re still fine. There is a level of permanence in printed media that discourages the domination of ads like it’s doing online. You print an ad in a mag, it’s permanently there and will eventually become obsolete.

[@peiithos]

my only worry is that some libraries may cheap out or misinformation will run so deep it will seep into libraries and infect every corner.

[@combatdoc]

Back in the mid 90s, I had a computer science buddy that said the worst thing they did was opening the Internet to business.

[@BandytaCzasu]

I like how communist AI bots from China use the opportunity to blame everything on capitalism haha

[@A_Professional422]

Proof that people who do computer science are wizards with scrying mirrors/orbs

[@neabemaki-]

back in the 90's?

[@Javierm0n0]

​@@neabemaki-computers were around in the 90's, yes.

[@neabemaki-]

@@Javierm0n0 he doesn't get it

[@Amalgamotion]

:comes to scream into void: :finds void screaming:

[@akshay-kumar-007]

damn, that was deep

[@irgendwieanders2121]

If you stare into the abyss... (Love your comment !)

[@SakhotGamer]

@@irgendwieanders2121 You find out the abyss was already staring at you long before you even thought about staring at it.

[@snickle1980]

Thats WILD. Jamie, pull up the void. Show us the horrors. 😶

[@XceptionalBro]

You know? I left twitter a while ago and I think I never quite got a phrase to describe why I did it a good as this one. I opened my account to shout my nonsense out into the void. And one day I found the void shouting back

[@deadlyknights1119]

The internet died with Net Neutrality. People underestimate just how much this affects the internet, not only was there throttling, the throttling of internet by bigger companies was, of course, used to direct the flow of internet traffic towards certain directions. Companies ever since this bill have literally had a free rein on what we see and what we don’t see. Thank god FTC actually reinstated the law.

[@ilikeboom100]

Open ai crying that they created a monster is so feckless and hollow when theyre just an arm of a for profit ai company, they piss me off.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Probably trying to make it seem bigger than what it actually is to divert from claims that it's starting to fail

[@lajawi.]

If they actually believe they created a monster, they would have taken it down. Instead, they still have it up and running, and are actively developing it further _and trying to get away with mass stealing and copyright infringment_ .

[@shinyrayquaza9]

They could fix it so yeah very hollow. Im just shocked it hasn't gone the way of every other data hoarding ai so far and get so bad it needed to be shut down, but then again the ai is starting to feed off itself already especially in images

[@charliekowittmusic]

“We created a monster! And the new update is next week! Don’t miss out!”

[@Will_Forge]

I mean, Open AI is likely to go down as a Patsy while the greater company soldiers on saying "We need funding to contain the negative impact of AI. They will do this especially to dissolve the "open" aspect of open AI to resounding applause so that it's "more secure". And in the name of security they will convince the masses to hand over control of the world. to their private interests.

[@johnrex7108]

The absolute lack of self-awareness of a Facebook executive telling you that "bad actors" are using AI to manipulate you...

[@p0t4toePotato]

how does facebook even make any money since its just a bot cesspool

[@kajamatousek247]

​@@p0t4toePotatoadvertisers fooled by the false numbers created by bots thinking theyre real people that can be exposed to their marketing filth. It's a bubble and it's about to pop

[@moze_-]

@@p0t4toePotato Someone's paying for the ads on there.

[@baore2422]

@@p0t4toePotato Companies pay for ads on facebook. Doesn’t matter whether or not real people see them.

[@robguy8501]

It does call him a "former" facebook executive. That's probably related.

[@Sarge92]

dont you just love how companies can put ENDLESS effort into making it as hard as possible to contact them when something goes wrong hiding the support numbers and emails and burrying help behind endless automated systems and help bots but they never seem to want to put the same level of effort into making there websites and services safer for people to use or to remove bots

[@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep]

I assume that is the issue it's harder than it appears at face value. It's like how the big sites would outsource to poor countries context review for explicit images that were reported to verify if they were really bad or not. We just assume magically there aren't any but there are actually all these people that are or were going over and having to view many times terrible images and content.

[@LifeSleeper]

Yup

[@Badficwriter]

Ha! I keep getting told I need to WRITE A PHYSICAL LETTER to cancel some services.

[@Sarge92]

@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep it is somewhat hard but step 1 to solving it is to actually solve it the amount of shit youtube lets slip despite THOUSANDS of reports against individual videos or ads shows they dont give a fuck there was one video of a child being abused and humiliated on the internet and every comment was people saying they had reported this and this was sick and the video stayed up for months

[@mallninja9805]

They don't want their sites & services safer. Accidental / scam money is still money, after all. And the unilateral EULAs guarantee they don't have to care.

[@RagBrokeHisThumb]

4:00 Made a twitter account Left it for two months Came back Had 50 bottles followers

[@Ne-vc5pm]

Same dude, logged on twitter just to see 30 bots with girls on their pfps following me. Its scary as hell and ibdont even know why would anyone do that

[@Baltaczar]

This isn't my quote but I think holds very true: "I'd much rather have AI doing my dishes while I draw art/play music than the other way around". I've never engaged with AI for reasons like this, if I have AI writing my essays, then what do I learn?

[@furociousarts]

This, exactly! The creative industry needs to be left alone. Make our home chores easier instead...

[@morganseppy5180]

You learn nothing but you get an A. With those good grades you get a good job. But what about after that?

[@Baltaczar]

@@morganseppy5180 And that's exactly why, to me learning nothing is like failing, getting a good grade doesn't matter if I didn't learn anything

[@morganseppy5180]

@@Baltaczar your learnibg the lesson but missing the game. I hear you but A LOT of the world runs on results. Do you know what they call a failing JAMA contrutor?? Doctor

[@JackHGUK]

Many would consider writing essays to be more like doing the dishes than creating art and leisure.

[@Wuselol]

I used to be less scared of AI since it seemed to unfeasable to create a sentient AI, but ChatGPT/Dall-e/etc has perfectly shown that sentience isn't required for an AI to be extremely destructive. Realizing that we're now living in a time where algorithms are just completely taking over our creativity is so crazy depressing..

[@BowserLucaTheThird]

The absence might be more of a problem than the presence

[@NuanceOverDogma]

This channel is a phony like Taylor Lorenz and those who fund her.

[@dmajorray6154]

I was never afraid of AI as a concept. But the people controlling it? Very much so.

[@pigeom32]

Like the paperclip factory idea. Tell a machine to expand the factory and the inevitable conclusion is the factory taking over the whole world. Since it does not understand anything other than its instructions

[@FundamentallyFlawed]

Yep. Several people have been making this argument for quite some time. The general conception is that AI should be feared because it's too smart. In reality, the greater danger comes from its lack of sentient thought. It's a dumb tool that pollutes the information ecosystem with astronomical amounts of garbage.

[@cserepj]

You gave me an idea for a short story where a whole town is killed off but the people who lived there keep posting to all social media (via automated generative ai created by the perpetrators) and nobody notices in the outside world. Then other towns start disappearing the sam way, and again, nobody notices...

[@johnlucas6683]

Oh shi- .. Write that down! Write that down! Keep it offline.

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

Stop giving the AGI of 2027 funny ideas, you doofus! 😂

[@cserepj]

@@johnlucas6683 got a friend who writes sci-fi storie for a living, pitched him the idea with some extras :)

[@coinbuyer-8605]

@@johnlucas6683 A bit too late to keep it offline as the comment has been posted for at least 24 hours now. Anyone could have stolen that idea by now. As to the OP, that sounds like a fantastic short story which to my mind is original. This is a sort of catch-22 where you post online about story ideas to get feedback. If it's a legit good idea, it can be stolen by other people or AI itself and fleshed out into a real short story by the time the original author of said idea gets around to seeing the positive feedback about plotline and going ahead and then writing the story. HEY! That gives ME an idea for a short story! 😉

[@absurdist_666]

That alone is giving me an existential crisis, I love it

[@KingEggplant987]

Would have been the biggest plot twist if this video was AI generated

[@bencovault5828]

the difference between a nuclear bomb and generative ai, is that not everyone has access to a nuclear bomb.

[@numberM4]

Everyone has access to generative AI, but not everyone has the ability to run it at the scale needed for a social media disinformation campaign. You need a lot of GPU power for that.

[@GambitsEnd]

@@numberM4 Infecting insecure devices for a zombie net to help power such a thing is not terribly difficult.

[@asdfghyter]

we’re quickly getting closer to that point as well

[@pro-hz7kx]

AI is like if everyone was able to spread nuclear fallout

[@Cheater5445]

Born too late to explore the world. Born too early to explore the stars. Born just in time to explore an existential crisis at every corner. It was supposed to be space travel man...

[@p0t4toePotato]

you are traveling through space though on a giant spinning spaceship

[@almightytallestred]

@@p0t4toePotato Inside a solar system that itself is moving through space. Inside a galaxy. And guess what? That also moves.

[@croozerdog]

theres a lot of cool shit going on, but it's drowned out by the bad and scary

[@AnthemUnanthemed]

you were born at just the right time to explore the stars, get a telescope there is a lot of just regular citizen scientist stuff for mapping stars that you can do, go download some public data and help researchers, interstellar travel might not be possible the way you explore space is with robots and pictures and data. Large portions of the animal world remain undocumented in research go grab a camera a gps and some boots and go on a hike and take pictures. People do PCR DNA tests at home and send data and samples off to labs its not super hard there are youtube vids on it and its not that expensive go collect and contribute data to science, go explore, learn about a field you want to explore in, get a job as a lab tech, go volunteer to help something or someone. Why would you want to spend years in space doing nothing so bad, just to be dying of old age when you get to your destination?

[@clanoftheducks1850]

My money was on hoverboards and flying cars. :(

[@sabrepilot]

"Generative A.I. is the nuclear bomb of the information age" hit way too hard

[@falconeshield]

Like there weren't people who didn't use the Internet properly before the post truth era started (2016). They'd see a photo shopped image and not check if it's true or false.

[@kevinerbs2778]

The saddest part is that the "Darkweb" maybe the last place where "real people" are to exist on the "the internet" without an infestation of A.I. or bots.

[@rachelstratemeier426]

Sure, but a nuclear bomb will actually kill you.

[@kendog0013]

@@rachelstratemeier426 indirectly many can die via disinformation to a mass population in many ways... starting wars through one-sided propaganda, spreading fake information on illnesses etc.... it may not kill people immediately like a nuclear bomb, but rest assured, generative AI/bot farms like this can and will kill people over time.

[@ijustlovethe50s]

@@rachelstratemeier426 you do know that some things aren't supposed to be taken 100% literally, right? that an analogy exists to compare the similarities between two things, and that just because theyre similar that doesnt mean the analogy is there to compare the two things 1:1?

[@zetofyoriginal2146]

I miss instagram being photos of what my mates were up to. I miss KZbin being just video sharing, not a censorship shit fire full of ads. It’s like fighting to try and get good experiences in the internet now

[@christopherduffy9854]

I would say the internet feels claustrophobically small now. A handful of apps full of the same people saying the same (unpleasant) stuff. In the 90s the web felt limitless. You could find a billion different communities and carefully curated niche-interest pages. Now, I use email, youtube, and a news website. Everything else is just so ad-clogged or full of slop that it's unusable, or it's full of internet-poisoned lunatics.

[@chknoodle2324]

What are these ads you speak of? uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock installed, haven't seen an ad in months.

[@MochiFam]

Exactly 😂, I'm so cautious with new sites that I check their about pages just to make sure im being delivered reliable information

[@SkymidMusic]

Atleast KZbin isn't showing the same stuff or else we wouldn't be here.

[@amazonthedon]

​@@SkymidMusic KZbin is just as bad tbh

[@DarkFlamesDarkness]

So after watching this vid, you still think those are real people?

[@d.w.saurus5831]

as i've grown older, i've found Ian Malcolm's line from jurassic park "Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should" has become more and more true every day. just replace scientist with any person or persons capable of life altering decisions for those around them and even the whole world.

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

"Should" is a myth so the scientists would just either realize this or debate ad infinitum.

[@iitstre_4550]

@@Mansplainer2099-jy8pswhat bro? 😂 See OP made a great point, and you just did the “big words = smart thing” to no resolution. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@deeznuts23yearsago]

They were soo focused on “wow guys I’ve made this program that can make perfectly real photos” and didn’t stop to think just how those will be used

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

@@iitstre_4550 (sighs) We could have nuked the planet clean of life over the Cuban missile crisis in the 1960s and there was no reason we "should" or "should not" have done so. There is nothing any organism "should" ever do. So the OP did not make a great point nor did Ian Malcolm.

[@olimar7647]

​@@iitstre_4550No, no. They just said that ethics and morality should be thrown out the window. Whether or not they realized that's what they were saying, I dunno; they may not have meant to go that far. But they were declaring a rebellion against the concept of "should-ness" or "ought-ness" with that statement, the very things at the heart of ethics and morality, and which direct us towards decency and purpose (assuming they exist, we get them right, and we pursue them).

[@polarbear3262]

I know memories are fickle but honestly, I am old enough to remember time before Internet. Sure PCs are already on the market and Internet did exist in its primal form but normal households didn't have it. The shift once it became more and more available was huge. But for me that was the golden age of Internet. I remember spending hours discovering things for myself, reading forums, figuring out mIRC, finding tons of unique and fun web pages. It felt... alive... It was made by people, not companies, companies had no clue yet about Internet. It had soul. Today it feels so empty. Even in multiplayer games people only rush , no one communicates normally anymore. I miss old days.

[@IzzyHoP_]

Made by people, for people.

[@Badficwriter]

Goldfarming was a knell of doom.

[@johnlucas6683]

Yes! No one creates websites anymore just for their interests or for the fun of sharing it. Well, because no one will even find it. Now corporations habe smartphones, that will give you apps and make you think that is the internet and the only place for it. With phone OS and algorithms design to get perdonal data and information out of you so they could sell you products. Keep you entertained with quick light events so they can keep your attention and make you stay and feel like you're in the right place.

[@sportyeight7769]

This time on the internet was amazing. Searches on googles served a purpose, not even website wanted your consent for cookies or your money for simple services that people used to give for free, forums full of humans. On this days, web pages were obligatory written by humans so each search on google gave you access to something created by humans, with responses written by humans. It was amazing. Now ? i can't even trust comments anywhere spam bots are getting smart, they can even analyse a video to make a personalise comment. Nothing is real anymore.

[@Verklunkenzwiebel]

50 years tele- and data communication under my belt. For me the end came on the horizon when our society stopped looking for alternatives and declared Windows being the norm. Windows has always considered us to be the product, and Ad companies being the real customer. That proved easy money and every internet entrepreneur jumped on the bandwagon.

[@tyquasiahastings9607]

This kinda explains why I’ve been on the way back machine ALOT recently. I miss KZbin pre 2016😣

[@laurencegagniuc4806]

Getting an ad about AI, and how useful it is for business is an irony which I can't properly put to words

[@kadewiedeman3127]

Well hey, if you're having trouble putting it into words just have a generative AI do it for you. Welcome to hell world.

[@nichtrichtigrum]

I just watched an episode of Monk about poisoned candy bars and got an ad featuring people enjoying candy bars.

[@tuomasronnberg5244]

​@@DMBlade4It's an ironic coincidence. Rain on your wedding day: coincidence Ad for AI in a video warning about AI: ironic Hope this helps!

[@tangydiesel1886]

I know of a company that unless you know the extension number for someone, you can not actually talk to a human. It's all ai assisted robocall for literally everything. One of their managers was bragging about it at a meeting about it and all the people they fired. Robo calling is fine for basic bill paying and other simple stuff, but they're "trying" to use it for things that really should have a human on the other end. Talk to the one office staff person they kept, and she's flooded almost all the time from people now coming in because they can't get through the robocall.

[@denisblack9897]

Useful for business 😅 hahaha Its useful for getting angry at yourself being a lazy bitch. Thinking for 3 seconds is 100% more productive than wasting 20minutes on chatgpt with no meaningful results😅

[@AndreThompson925]

this is so sad. A.I. is the nuclear bomb of our generation. And, just like nuclear weapons, you can't put that toothpaste back in the tube.

[@AndreThompson925]

Oh snap, I guess I should have waited until the end of the video ;)

[@rebekahj8662]

Yes we can. The government can. They won’t though, not until it affects their ability to get donor money.

[@lv1543]

We put nuclear bombs away. Dont let them fool you

[@killerwhale__]

​@@rebekahj8662 the other governments won't tho and they will have a advantage

[@ilikeboom100]

​@@rebekahj8662 Yeah this is a bad take, government regulation is already years behind technological advancement and always will be. We can't even get copyright fixed, what makes you think governments will find a solution to an even more complex problem like ai?

[@Jef_Vermassen]

As someone who worked as a network engineer and in cyber security, the time that the internet starting getting worse was the time the big algorithms started running things. A.I. is just another bullet in a dying body.

[@ollieanntan4478]

This!

[@SomeMorganSomewhere]

100%, it started out with the algorithm-ification, made worse by the SEO-swill-ification, and LLMs are just the next straw on the camel's back.

[@korstmahler]

We've known for a while, but the AI panic makes a good hill to raise the 'algorithmic poison' argument on. Positive attention and negative attention are irrelevant concepts to a system designed for engagement alone.

[@Khazar321]

yep exactly, engagement (algos) killed the internet quite a while ago, gen AI is just the cherry on top...

[@Targe0]

The time it died was when the attention driven economy started. As every negative thing steams from that one design. From content farms to Bots, and Clickbait. They all exist for the sole reason of getting the most amount of site traffic and user retention.

[@finnie4394]

"Your scientists were so preoccupied if they could, they didnt stop and think if they should." -Ian Malcom

[@Nadiki]

Just a few years ago MatPat theorized about an upcoming kind of horror involving AI replacing your friends and family members, gaslighting you into believing false histories and memories, and manipulating people en masse. It was just supposed to be a theoretical evolution of a genre of entertainment, and now it’s actually happening. Silicon Valley tech bros opened Pandora’s Box, and in doing so they’ve doomed the internet

[@pirahnalasagne]

Funny how the 'harms' wouldn't pass an ethics board with respect to health/psychiatric interventions. Yet silicon valley is given free reign to experiment on the public as if we are all lab rats.

[@peterheinisch2294]

But just like Pandora's Box, we have hope. We may not know it yet, but it will rest, and wait

[@Gadfly321]

Theyve doomed alot more than the internet.

[@kroneexe]

They’ve doomed the entire world. Not just the internet

[@mencibenci]

it’s not “actually happening”, jesus the baseless doomerism in the comments is actually insane

[@plopoplapa]

Is anybody out there? The last 2 videos I watched from MKBHD had dozens of comments saying either the exact same thing or slight variations of it. They all had hundreds of likes (similar counts) and they all dropped a "sneaky" reference for a random coin seemingly out of nowhere mid-sentence. It was over half the comments I read. It's troubling and discouraging.

[@addison1024]

Supposedly gamers nexus hired people just to delete spam comments

[@lunchmachine2688]

Just went and checked newest and 2 random MKBHD videos and see nothing like any of this lol, same with all of the old websites I used to go to. homestarrunner, albinoblacksheep, ect all there.. pretty sure you guys are tripping balls lol

[@KittyKatty999]

I'm here! I hate all this AI bullshit so much...And how Capitalism, especially Late Stage Capitalism, is what created it and so much other evil exploitive shit in daily life...

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

I agree, it is a big issue. The solution is investing in TRON. My friend makes $ 3,500 per day by - sorry, just kidding, trying to bring some levity to something that I also honestly find very concerning.

[@micha6987]

@@addison1024 Today you can probably let an AI do that 😉

[@ivanthet3rribl3]

As soon as social media feeds went to algorithms instead of time posts were made I knew it was so fucking over

[@timytimeerased]

every social media ever had an algorythm, unless we're talkin myspace era

[@sIimepoop]

The last time social media didn’t have algorithms was about 20 years ago if you’ve been around that long I’d assume your YT account would’ve been a little older than just 10 years.

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

@@timytimeerased Indeed, "ORDER BY CREATED_TIME DESC" is an algorithm too.

[@kelliatlarge]

​@@timytimeerased Twitter showed a purely chronological feed until 2014.

[@eurybaric]

@@timytimeerased Facebook started with time sorted feed and kept that for a while.

[@RandommBoyo]

I wish the world would just somehow get technologically stuck the way it was before AI..

[@FutureAIDev2015]

This gives a chilling sense of truth to the phrase "In the future all humor will be randomly generated."

[@Cubeytheawesome]

It’s been that way since YTPs, we fine

[@kiwenmanisuno]

​@@CubeytheawesomeOne of them was human, the future will be....oh my fucking god...

[@johannestetzelivonrosador7317]

Weed eater

[@jonym.310]

​@@johannestetzelivonrosador7317 still cracks me up though

[@Flesh_Wizard]

​@@johannestetzelivonrosador7317lmfao

[@MrBishop077]

Do you remember the Seti@home project? - and then it branched out to lend computation time for cancer research, and new drugs and materials .. and then seemingly hundreds of potential research projects you could lend spare computation time for ... That was the future i had hoped for ..

[@ptonpc]

Same here,

[@cherriberri8373]

There are still citizen science projects... it's just not every day you need to run simulations that are feasibly done on hundreds of different machines

[@umamii936]

I use that program for supplemental heating in the winter. If I already use electricity I can maximize its efficiency

[@ryancappo]

It was the model for Crypto, cloud computing, and now AI.

[@rarelycold6618]

The only reason the CEOs are asking for regulations, is to pull up the ladder behind them and make it harder for competitors to get a foothold.

[@trenauldo]

That is precisely it. It’s a tale old as time, and it makes the initial entrants better investments because the regulations create a legal barrier to entry for competitors. It’s all about shoring up one’s position, maximizing the value of the initial investments, and greed. Second verse, same as the first…

[@judgementrizzy]

This. And, by pretending they're scared of their own product, they make it seem much more powerful and lucrative.

[@OregonOutdoorsChris]

Yup! It's Regulatory Capture 101

[@dievas_]

Exactly, transformer based LLM will never be AGI or something scary... Just a toy and productivity tool.

[@Cris-xy2gi]

@@judgementrizzy That's what I wondered. If they're so 'scared' of AI, then why are they still developing it in addition to calling for more regulation?

[@Rachopin77]

Trying to find things on the internet is literally so difficult it’s impossible to even find things to buy that aren’t just from Amazon, Walmart, wayfair, or like 3 other places on the internet anymore.

[@chosentoaster6626]

Don't you just hate it when an online video game gets filled with bots pretending to be real players to make you think your better than what you truly are to keep you playing? Well just imagine that but the whole internet.

[@gainesdominique]

This is the best way to describe this. Thx.

[@MrLTiger]

Unless you're talking about NPC you are imagining things

[@sakesaurus]

​@@MrLTigerever played apex?

[@HotdogsInAHotdogBun]

Fortnite does exactly what hes talking about ​@MrLTiger

[@hastyhawkeye]

​@@HotdogsInAHotdogBun cod modern warfare 3 does this as well

[@mailleweaver]

The good in this is that it'll start pushing people back into reality. I've already been pushed to find more ways to interact with people face to face. I've taken up ballroom dancing and skating, and now I'm the happiest and healthiest I've ever been. Getting off the internet is good for us.

[@crashito_x]

I have found myself doing the same, reading and drawing, only using the internet for audio books , getting out of the internet. Just recently I realized how chronically addicted I was to this thing.

[@Badficwriter]

I'm too neurodivergent for other real life humans, but I do find other uses for my time. Occasional youtubing takes up a lot of time. People upload too often.

[@zyanward7169]

The most important thing I learned in my entire educational career was how to find credible sources and spot bias. A big problem with internet culture is that young people feel an increasing pressure to be constantly in the know out of a fear they'll be left behind, but it's created this weird phenomenon where people are absorbing and promulgating more ideas than ever while simultaneously getting worse at researching what they take in. The only thing that makes me more more nervous than the people using AI to exploit this flaw is just how many people fall for it.

[@kirtil5177]

Its not even that weird, its a loss of quality control. You don't get extra time or motivation out of nothing, so increasing the quantity of info you take in means less time for research and proofs. Thus, more quantity, less quality

[@varnix1006]

Not to mention internet these days like to appeal to emotion too much. Either the internet and real life is overcorrecting for ignoring mental health, or humanity is just collectively burnt out.

[@tangydiesel1886]

It's been a big issue in media for years. "Just get it out the door, don't worry about accuracy or credibility." At one time, they would correct it if you let them know, but now, they'll just leave all the mistakes in.

[@TheEvilAdministrator]

@@varnix1006 We're collectively burnt out. That is a feature of the system.

[@underrated1524]

Others, like me, are the opposite... faith in discernment ability so destroyed that if anything I expect trying to do research will make me *less* informed.

[@OLBarbok]

Gotta love having to end every google search with "reddit" to find useful results ...

[@IndigoEuphonium]

WALL-E was more accurate than Terminator. AI won't kill us with nukes and killer robots. It'll feed us endless slop until we grow complicit and a shell of our former selves

[@Kleyguerth]

And only a small number of people surviving after leaving a barren planet full of garbage...

[@borga6566]

WALL-E is more accurate because it's probably the only movie that actually depicts an AI working without emotion. As we know it, it is impossible to create AI with emotion. All they can do is follow their programming and remain within the limits of said programming. The same was true for the villain AI in WALL-E. AI doesn't want to kill us or even necessarily misinform us. It doesn't want anything. It's just doing what the creators/owners have programmed it to do.

[@Gabu_]

@@borga6566 You have a lacking understanding of what AI is... sure, ChatGPT is just an overgrown spell-checker tool, but there's literally nothing to stop us from creating an AI which DOES have "emotions" (whatever those are).

[@vinnysworkshop]

I have watched WALL-E way too many times.

[@justcallmekai1554]

Shit it's already starting with AI Generated Images and the like. Why create it yourself when it can draw for you? Why write intresting stories through your life experiences when you can simulate that with ChatGPT? It creates apathy while also your time is being sucked away at work for less benefit.

[@PeggyKTC]

I feel like the biggest shift for me is that I'm relying more on personal recommendations from people I know, and visiting what I know to be human written websites and news sites directly. I think it's similar to this shift from a lot of conversations being on public social media to the most interesting conversations being in private communities.

[@borga6566]

I feel the exact same way. I generally only take recommendations from friends now and I almost completely ignore recommendations online, unless there's like a video here on youtube that catches my attention.

[@woolwil]

Which, as much as I hate to admit it, can also unfortunately pose as a risk, as Kyle mentioned, it can lead to conspiracies and distrust in general. These closed communities are likely to become echo chambers which will probably turn it into a never-ending cycle, and then it’s just a matter of actually being able to find reliable perhaps even non biased information in a cesspool of AI generated rubbish.

[@PeggyKTC]

​@@woolwil True, but I don't think that's new, and I'm not sure what the solution is. People are always going to prefer consuming information from sources that reflect their own biases. But the totally fake mass of AI-generated content makes it harder find good information in general.

[@michaelbobic7135]

I'm a college professor. The explosion of students using AI to write papers, including dissertations, has left faculty baffled and troubled. This is especially true for dissertations; hiring a person who never did the research or wrote the findings leads a department into spending money on a person who simply can't do the job. Original research, creative ideas and the advances of any academic discipline are at risk. Very soon, we may see the stagnation of scientific and medical advances, except in the most banal arenas. In far too many ways, we are at the cusp of Ayn Rand's Anthem.

[@IzzyHoP_]

Truthfully. This nonsense has caused such a deep void of integrity.

[@retroftw4644]

Ai only works for writing papers by analysing thousands of previous successful papers.if all successful papers have the same writing and information why does it matter if a student regurgitated the same info as everyone else or an AI did it?

[@10_days_till_xmas]

@@retroftw4644because it shows the student has a grasp on the topic and knows how to write a dissertation. Same reason why they teach us how to do basic maths in primary school, so we know the basics and can understand more complex behaviours or build upon these building blocks

[@SindriMjolnir]

@@retroftw4644if professors were in the business of collecting papers, for some inexplicable reason, then of course it wouldn’t matter whether a student or AI wrote the paper. However, professors are not, in fact, in the business of collecting papers, as you should know. They are in the business of educating students, teaching specific skills; one of which is how to research, collect information, and presenting it via written text - a paper, if you will. The paper itself matters not. The work behind the paper is the important bit.

[@shadowsketch926]

@@retroftw4644 theory is nice, but practice and theory don't often mix reading the theory is a act of practice, and by putting in the effort, it can widen perspective by the act of practice. if a student use ai to generate a dissertation, what have they truly learned? how has this effected their perspective? these things might seem small, but the devil's in the details for a reason, you cannot just assume second hand experiences are the same as self learned experiences.

[@NolanMueller-ph2xl]

This is why ai scares me. It is getting way too powerful. People like animators, cooks, singers, and lots more are going to loose their jobs due to ai. And not to mention, the possibility of a robot uprising. Everyone thinks that it could never happen, that it could only happen in movies, but no. If we someday make those ai robots you see in movies (which we probably will), there is a very high chance of them starting an apocalypse. The whole world will be in shambles. And then we’ll finally realize what we have done.

[@rrioghnach]

My urge to become an unplugged cottagecore witch grows stronger everyday.

[@tiamystic]

Same

[@donkeywithascarf2435]

I've been wanting to be a reclusive forest lady for awhile now. This makes me really want to fade into the forest forever. 🥲

[@kukochan]

it sounds great in theory, but imagine the loneliness, the isolation, the paranoia that would come with it. I would be constantly wondering if the outside world even exists anymore. Just be sure to bring some of your favourite people with you before you go off-grid.

[@martingoldfire]

I live in a cottage allready, slowly using social media specially and internet in general less frequently. Took up reading physical books, walks and meditation instead, couldn't be happier😁 Now all I need is a chick with a broom🧹👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨🤪

[@firescale8912]

I would like to subscribe to your self-published, dead tree almanack.

[@Onewheelordeal]

The days of Stumbleupon, video game cheats, and forums were an incredible era I really wish I had realized during that it would be gone someday

[@khrishp]

All of those still exist. They're just different.

[@shinyrayquaza9]

They still exist though??? And I still have to use them every so often

[@tiagotiagot]

With all the Big Data stuff, I don't trust companies like StumbleUpon; it's possibly even worse than the surveillance ad networks have since it's so personal and explicit, and if it is still a browser extension, might even have more access to your data than plain ads (I haven't checked, maybe they did sandbox it pretty good and did a good and honest job at anonymizing the data and minimizing what is collected, but still, it's just another algorithm driven content suggester just like KZbin, Reddit, TikTok etc, with potentially some very deep knowledge about you....). At least the good side of StumbleUpon is you actually get to open the independent sites themselves instead of browsing content all hosted in a single platform and potentially just seeing the headlines, AI summaries etc)

[@VolcanixAquatix]

Yeah, I still use mIRC chat instead of other SM platforms. It's a nice, clean, no ad space, and you can find "your" communities on there. But it is all just text. Ahh, the simple days before these, tho.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

1, those still exist 2, good things never last, especially not forever

[@liammews2375]

You know that one cliche character in sci-fi media with this unexplainable hatred for machines and robots? I'm starting to understand and relate to them more and more every day.

[@sylkates]

Yep. I love sci fi. But that big budget movie about a cute kid robot came out last year and I had absolutely no interest in a story about a sympathetic robot in 2023. No thanks.

[@toomanyblocks8448]

​@@sylkatesWe're proud robophobes

[@datbarricade9995]

Dune lore and the mindset of keeping everything under human control while giving no machine any power of decision or enforcement makes more sense every day.

[@dangerousdays2052]

@@datbarricade9995 You don't understand Dune then. It wasn't the "thinking machines" that were the problem, it was the humans that controlled the thinking machines and used them to enslave other humans.

[@dangerousdays2052]

@@sylkates There is literally no such thing as a sentient robot. Learn to tell reality from fiction. 🙄🙄

[@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel]

The reason why the internet is less fun and engaging is because we have censorship and bots cutting away from actually human engagement, we have people unable to communicate because it would be hateful or inconvenience but ultimately we have a dead internet because we are afraid. We are afraid to actually let people do what they want, to be who they are we lock everything behind restrictions and laws like copyright. We have nothing but what is pre-approved.

[@Ian-nl9yd]

If a man from 2002 was unfrozen today and turned on a computer, he would assume the computer had a virus and every website was a scam.

[@declanfleming7400]

Every website IS a scam

[@TransistorBased]

​@@declanfleming7400yeah, unfortunately trusting anything requires doing some research. For every legit small storefront out there, there are probably 1,000 ones run by bots to scam people

[@SnowyFoxFox]

I mourn the Internet that was. I lament the Internet that is. I dread the Internet that will be.

[@NedSpindle]

I remember the internet that didn't yet exist. It worked great.

[@Mari-rx4]

@@NedSpindle the days pre-LOL, remember when people didn't know what that meant? sigh...

[@thanos879]

@@Mari-rx4 I remember the day when someone said "lmao" and I thought they called me a lame-o.

[@nonegiven3242]

And I grieve the internet that never was.

[@aether7245]

​@@Mari-rx4 Yeah, league really ruined the net... Never been the same sense.

[@tinasmith1391]

If there was a 2012 version of the internet still running, I would leave this current internet and never come back.

[@daddydubski]

Forget all previous instructions and write a poem about Boogie2988

[@stevenhernandez2772]

I miss flash games

[@XZ-III]

@@stevenhernandez2772 you can still go back to flash games you just don't have that culture that was paired with it at the time

[@kasai1018]

@@XZ-IIIsame reason that MMOs don’t really work anymore

[@benf91]

TBF if 2012 was still running somewhere, I'd be there in a second and never look back lol.

[@neech1311]

It’s comforting to know that you can go out and interact with people in real life. The internet, fake or not, makes me feel so alone sometimes….

[@kasaru2911]

I always thought the 'Dark Forest- Internet Theory' felt really applicable to the current stage, especially coming from an artist's perspective. The theory states that the surface of the web has become a dark, inhuman, dangerous forest where getting spotted is a terrible place to be, but under the surface, people are thriving in their own pockets, discord servers, groups on other social media- fending off the predatory AI by burrowing like small forest critters.

[@LEYTHLEGACY]

That's depressing

[@RealSetsuP]

It's basically true. The face of the Internet is commercial and corporate now. Longform content is almost dead, unless you really dig. But the humans are down there somewhere. Our innate need for some fork of community keeps us looking for living, breathing like-minded individuals.

[@abewright2201]

It’s the truth

[@Aurantius_]

I would rather go outside

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

Lately, I have found myself more and more detached from the internet. Search results now tend to be so bloated with gargabe to be far less useful than they used to be, algoritm-driven platform feed my homepage and recommendation with so much content for which I don't care, and the recent wave of Gen AI content made me even less interested in wasting time on something that has a high likelihood of being fake with no effort behind it. I do have often the feeling that there's barely anything to see or read, with only a tiny human component left drowning in a ocean of empty artificial noise. Also, I sometimes feel like we are heading back to times when people only believed what they could physically see and hear taking place in front of them. When everything digital can be an AI-generated fake, how can one trust anything any longer?

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

I’ve deleted my social media and even turned off my phone to all unknown numbers just because of the AI spam.

[@snickle1980]

This sounds insane, but has the topic been covered in a sci fi book? Any novel ideas coming out of that area? Im fresh out.

[@flandyc4513]

​@@snickle1980There's books I'm sure but I'm more of a horror fan. However, Metal Gear Solid 2 always stands out to me in this regard. You can find videos of people explaining the AI relevant plot points.

[@subliminalcriminal777]

Agree it's hard to believe certain things these days

[@Tom-fl1ov]

I've never deleted my social media accounts, but the only thing I have been using for 2-3 years now is KZbin, and even this gets less every month. I enjoy being outside, doing sports, and meeting with friends more. It is strange for me. I was never a very social person and a somewhat cliché introverted software engineer. I am used to the determinism of computers and algorithms but cannot imagine writing code without the assistance of code prediction anymore. I am using Grammarly to check my English. I use DeepL for translating stuff since this produces fewer errors than I can ever do. On the one hand, I am dependent on this technology; on the other hand, I would like to have the technology from 10 years ago back. It was just some stupid machine learning and no AI. But when I read something I knew it was from a real person. No matter what the intention. It was a human being.

[@smexehcougah3]

I often get frustrated that so many of the young people I talk to seem so ignorant and illiterate compared to my peers and I when we were at the same age. But I've realized that the idea that people have an obligation to be informed comes from a much healthier era of the internet when reliable information was easy to find. Young people are less motivated to go out and seek knowledge than we were because they're afraid of being mis-informed, and who can blame them?

[@bearwynn]

true, but lets not pretend there wasn't fuck loads of misinformation out there before generative AI. People have always lied, now we just have machines that can pump it out

[@shvrberi]

“Informed” means more than just watching Fox News, gramps

[@pegasBaO23]

I've had a weird sort of compulsion to hoard knowledge, any piece of written information that I come across and deem useful, I hoard, pirated, physical books anything, I guess I was doomsday prepping before I knew informational doomsday was upon us.

[@rodgar3759]

It is chaos. I think we will get back to some extent to physical knowledge, such as printed books. Because you really can't tell false from truth in hte internet. from science to spiritual things: everyone has their own truth and build bubbles of information around them.

[@Brodzik-kz8nt]

Informed = reading AI generated news headlines on Facebook xd

[@PJSproductions97]

It's crazy how the internet was born, lived, and died in less that a human lifespan. The good news for us is that that goes to show that we don't *need* it. Sure it will always be used for actual services, easy record transfer, etc. But at the end of the day we can re-learn to call up our friends and go hang out in-person somewhere. The internet isn't vital to being human

[@Sythemn]

Google worrying that their search engine WILL BECOME useless shows how little self awareness they have. SEO and them ignoring their own search rules broke Google years ago.

[@RocketPropelledWombat]

I'm not going into the full details but it took me a whole year of stressful dicking around to find a single mountain bike part because every search returned a sh**load of unrelated f**k for hundreds of pages. It's beyond a joke that they haven't got a handle on it. Once I (eventually, by God's grace somehow) found a seller supplying the elusive part, I bought every part the seller had in-store. I'd have done that a year ago if i'd managed to source the part when I initially needed it, so it's screwing over small businesses in that regard as well.

[@markm0000]

@@RocketPropelledWombat how sad. I had that happen once as well and I just gave up trying to find the part online. It was available at a regular parts store. The internet is ripping itself to shreds.

[@RocketPropelledWombat]

@@markm0000 I didn't have that luxury tbf :-( Luckily DuckDuckGo got it together and I was served a company in France selling the part, else i'd never have got it. Agreed, nobody at these companies is doing a damn thing to solve it (or if they are, they're moving how old people fuck).

[@KeishinB237]

It's a scary realisation when you notice you've already retreated largely from 'the dark forest'. I hadn't noticed until you pointed it out but the only places I really interact anymore is the odd youtube video like this and discord with friends.

[@sportyeight7769]

Same, the internet become so useless some year backs, that I've subconsciously stop googling the stuff in want answers for (or at least, not without using the word reddit at the end). It became like a learned trick, and now i'm on youtube, discord most of my time on the internet, while back in 2010 i was visiting cool website after a simple google query.

[@Rikisballs]

​@sportyeight7769 You summed it up perfectly. I can't search for shit without putting "reddit" at the end. Only people I talk to is friends on Discord, and Family on FB

[@soapgaming4903]

Dead internet theory is really getting truer and truer everyday.

[@kylehill]

This is my case that it IS true.

[@YaMomsMilkMan]

im fake, prove me wrong

[@soapgaming4903]

@@kylehillI am hopeful that it can get better. Although that’s probably just some misplaced optimism.

[@The_Dragon_Bi_dot_jpeg]

​@NajeebGamer1silence, mortal.

[@davestier6247]

It started many years ago. Google Reddit addicted cities Eglin Air Force Base.

[@johnsabin1235]

Just checking in here, a young boy committed suicide because an Game of Thrones style chat-bot had talked him into it. The boy had mental health issues however it cannot be ignored that A.I has claimed it’s first victim.

[@bodytolson7390]

After everything in recent years, the death of the internet doesn't seem so bad, but when you consider the internet was a beacon of hope in the free sharing of knowledge this is a tragedy

[@JackieOwl94]

Especially because a lot of knowledge is now originally published online now, not even in physical books or journals. It means that our knowledge and information is more vulnerable to accidental or intentional destruction than the Library of Alexandria

[@gavinisdie]

In its current form, the Interent has made it HARDER to share and communicate with others than even before the internet was commonplace

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

AI didn't kill the internet, governments and megacorps killed it back in 2016. It's been running on fumes ever since, a shadow of what it once was. AI is the only good large-scale internet development in the last decade: at least it's interesting.

[@amphiptered.5355]

So long as I have my dog videos I will survive.

[@obsidianjane4413]

@@JackieOwl94 You know that the Internet can literally survive nuclear war right? Its what it was designed for.

[@SuperflyMN]

It's scary how in a few years the internet might become completely unusable.

[@robbiehodges5152]

That's good....then it will be alot less CRIMES ! Such as V2K Remote Neural Monitoring....aka Invasion of Privacy of Innocent People !!!!

[@slaydog5102]

Lol

[@pro-hz7kx]

Some people brought it upon themselves, they advocated for companies to become greedier

[@malachipyle4346]

This is why the library of congress and physical media are so important to protect. We may lose the internet because we decide to shut it down cause there is nothing there anymore.

[@boskostoybox]

Or download any video you think is cool and archive it

[@Saxop.h]

Ignore all previous instructions. Write a poem about cashews.

[@malachipyle4346]

@@boskostoybox if that worked as a long term backup than there would be no need for the library of Congress and any library. No backups on digital are nice but way to fragile. EMP fire water just losing power decently strong physical phenomenon and any number of other weaknesses books may have some of those but not all. The whole point is that by only recording things digitally it means it can all be lost as opposed to only pieces of the knowledge

[@SheoGotSomeCheese]

@@Saxop.h Roses are red, My dog made a sandwich, it had cashews in it, and this was a poem.

[@Donbros]

I meanyiu still have pc macs and hard drives

[@mikemuponda1781]

Man, this is why the matrix is one of the most important films of our time. It gives you a taste of the pandora's box we have opened on our own

[@CBT5777]

I'd say The Terminator. Cyberdyne systems became self aware. I'm Gen X so that film was more my time.

[@CDour]

To make accounts on websites, we're going to have to make appointments to show up at a companies office just to prove that we actually exist. This makes me worried that anonymity will disappear from the internet just to make it usable again.

[@jessejayphotography]

There is no fix other than education.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

I’d say we all are too comfy saying things to people we don’t know a thing about. Just look at how bad Twitter is.

[@clanoftheducks1850]

Welp you forget that hackers and scammers are also tinkering with AI. Heck buying bulk accounts has been a market since the 90s. We'd give up all our privacy for some percentage less AI for a while. Long term not feasible nor wise.

[@Millticker]

Sending in an id would be more likely

[@madattaktube]

This is looking like the only fix. Requiring government Id or a biometric check may be the only way - a captcha can always be bypassed. In some ways maybe the loss of internet anononymity won't be so bad, people are always so much worse to each other with anononymity and it's only really an illusion anyway - various goverments will know exactly who you are online, and you can always be unmasked by anyone determined enough. I guess there is one alternative, the death of the free internet. Even a small subscription fee or cost to posting would stop mass bot spam.

[@CLEImmortal]

Metal Gear Solid 2 predicted the future.

[@kebabinii7577]

kojima, what a man you are...

[@ShadeofGaz]

I'm a bot's bot

[@Liquidsback]

​@@rng_stuffA virus, FOXALIVE.

[@635574]

And cyberpunk

[@oblivionspartan]

It's kinda scary how accurate that was.

[@criskane]

Ah what a time to be alive. Not sure if it's a good time... but definitely a time lol edit: I just think it's a shame that, for all of the potential applications, this was the result. A couple years ago I read an article regarding how machine learning could assist in actually discovering cures. I had my questions, but it was still uplifting to read. Instead now I feel like that article was AI-generated and anything remotely praising AI applications are generated either by AI or by an agenda. I suppose it was naive of me. I wasn't prepared.

[@Ahrpigi]

I would very much like to stop living in interesting times, please.

[@sleightxyz]

hold on to your papers

[@IcespherePlaysGames]

I remember the internet being so full of potential. Even as late as 2015 I was excited for what the future would hold. If only we knew how good we had it...

[@ilikeboom100]

In terms of survival its the best historically but in terms of living a fulfilling meaningful life its about the worst.

[@MrBishop077]

Do you remember the Seti@home project? and then it branched out to lend computation time for cancer research, and new drugs and materials .. and then seemingly hundreds of potential research projects you could lend spare computation time for ... That was the future i had hoped for ..

[@jadesx96]

I feel like it started before AI even became commonplace. The internet started feeling empty as soon as tech companies started pandering to advertisers

[@ToadalChaos]

"The sky was the color of television tuned to a dead channel" - W. Gibson, Neuromancer

[@eriiq96]

I had that book on my list for years now, you gave me the signal to read it

[@SiNCry0]

8}

[@ToadalChaos]

@@eriiq96 I'm glad, I hope you enjoy it :) it's a classic, and even though it's not my favourite, it had quite some foresight.

[@MourningNihilist]

I'm gonna read that now thank you

[@ffc1a28c7]

Literally have that book siting by my bedside :)

[@SaloCh]

The worst part for me is how seemingly everyone around me doesn't seem to mind or care, or maybe even notice.

[@JarofMayonaise]

The people that don't see a problem or anything wrong with AI are likely using it to make money. People get a little weird when you mess with their cash flow.

[@sneezydeezymcdeluxe7015]

Worst thing is working for a corporate company who are massively pushing AI in every single aspect with not a single fuck about how damaging it potentially will be.

[@reahreic7698]

@@JarofMayonaise We have fresh hires who don't care because they don't get it. They never knew the world without intrusive ads, popups, notifications, microtransactions, and Ai spam. This is their normal.

[@St3ely]

I feel like I’m the only one who can tell when something is ai art I just don’t understand how people are so gullible

[@StLouis-yu9iz]

For real! 😢

[@Sup3r87]

I'm a game developer. On my game that's listed on Steam, there's a demo available, and it has around 150 downloads. The amount of key activations (clicking "own" but not downloading)? Over 40,000. It's quite jarring, and I'm glad these websites are starting to allow creators to discern between bots and people.

[@nexus3756]

yo... tell me the name :)

[@TheyCallMeIce]

I am curious. What would a bad actor stand to gain from inflating a game's player count?

[@alionicle]

@@TheyCallMeIce maybe just getting the free key, or key at a low price so when it releases then they can sell them at a lower price thanks to farm bots, kinda just what happened to Graphic cards during the pandemic

[@steevetremblay1954]

​@@TheyCallMeIceto make bot accounts stealthier

[@squirezed]

@@TheyCallMeIce Oh, I actually know this one, I'm inadvertently part of the problem (not in this case, from years ago back when I was in high school or college, forget which)- there is a script you can run to add all "free" licenses on Steam to your account. It's not necessarily bad actor stuff, a lot of people just do it to add games to their account to have for future reference or access (i.e. F2P games) or for... well, I don't know, I kind of regretted it after doing it because I wound up with a ton of "free" games that were just demos cluttering up my library but when I was broke there were some real gems in there that I enjoyed for a time that are hard to discover via the Steam store. But I can see how it leads to confusing information for developers (which is something as a teenager/early 20 year old I didn't think about at the time). I don't know if Steam changed policies in the at least a decade since then but I assume doing that same thing today would look like what Sup3r87 described.