Dead Kennedys-Holiday In Cambodia Reaction!!

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VinAnd Sori

VinAnd Sori

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@kitcorpse
@kitcorpse 5 жыл бұрын
Satire at it's finest. Dead Kennedys were such a great band!
@marktourtillott1865
@marktourtillott1865 5 жыл бұрын
Still are
@kitcorpse
@kitcorpse 5 жыл бұрын
@@marktourtillott1865 Without Jello, DK is not DK!
@iblamegravity1
@iblamegravity1 5 жыл бұрын
@@kitcorpse Jello is DK ...
@Gregbaltzer
@Gregbaltzer 5 жыл бұрын
Jello's album he did with DOA was amazing. And his new band sounds so much like what he was doing with Dead Kennedys. If you haven't heard it than listen to White People and the Damage Done album. It's fantastic.
@iblamegravity1
@iblamegravity1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gregbaltzer I'll definitely have to check that out!
@didigarcez
@didigarcez 5 жыл бұрын
In punk, you don't have to like the singer's voice, you just have to listen to the message.
@peterchapman3740
@peterchapman3740 3 жыл бұрын
exactly it was about the message
@peterchapman3740
@peterchapman3740 3 жыл бұрын
blm ,white nationals pol pot , starlin hitler , they all the same , msn ,google ,twitter
@pepintheshort7913
@pepintheshort7913 2 жыл бұрын
I must be the weirdo that liked Jello Biafra’s voice. But that was something I liked about the bands I was in to. They had a sound, they were distinct.
@darkkhalwb
@darkkhalwb 2 жыл бұрын
I like the vocals of a lot of classic punk bands. Especially those that were obviously making it a point to sing "badly". "Who Killed Bambi" by the Sex Pistols is one that comes to mind.
@hornyconvict
@hornyconvict 2 жыл бұрын
except jello's voice rocks
@mariocastillo8334
@mariocastillo8334 5 жыл бұрын
When Sori asked "who is Pol Pot, what did he do?" that's when I got comfy and brought the popcorn.
@tonygriffin3464
@tonygriffin3464 4 жыл бұрын
I was having a conversation with a woman once and bought up Ho Chi Minh city. She laughed and asked 'who would name a city that?'.
@SeanODea25
@SeanODea25 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonygriffin3464 I am losing faith in human when I hear stupid people like that exist
@TheSmittenman
@TheSmittenman 4 жыл бұрын
It just shows her lack of education, which is sad to hear, but Vin seems to have more of an idea (just) .Just thinking the Killing Fields covers it all is way off the mark, they both need to look into History a bit more, and what countries were complicit in all this :(
@AlexSolomon91
@AlexSolomon91 4 жыл бұрын
phil smit, that's what I was saying on apost the other day, its better to learn and have information than have a lack of
@stevenbacon-cheddar9914
@stevenbacon-cheddar9914 4 жыл бұрын
100% Uncomfortable shit to follow. Made me smile
@DavidDArcy1975
@DavidDArcy1975 4 жыл бұрын
The Killing Fields is not 'a term', it's an actual place in Cambodia where a ridiculous amount of bodies were discovered... it was then used as the title of the 1984 film which was based on the book, The Death and Life of Dith Pran by Sydney Schanberg respect :)
@BrickNewton
@BrickNewton 2 жыл бұрын
That movie scarred me when I was young when it was shown on T.V.
@delugesofgrandeur
@delugesofgrandeur 2 жыл бұрын
It literally is a term for a place. I don't think the original google earth image (/s) said Killing Fields. Pedantic dick.
@bluegregory6239
@bluegregory6239 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I went there in 2013. Bones still coming up out of the ground. One of the two heaviest things I've ever experienced. Another brilliant example of Jello's prescience, predicting right now back in the late 1970s/early 1980s.
@MrRichtermo
@MrRichtermo 10 ай бұрын
I watched the movie in a small restaurant in Siem Reap. After seeing all of the horrible things in Phnom Penh. So the movie had an immense amount of weight at the time, it was hard to get over the experience! I had the hardest time in a school inside Phnom Penh, were they used to keep some prisoners. Everything was left as it was when the Thai army freed Cambodia. There were pictures in every room, that showed it with the dead bodies ! In one room there were bloodstains and the long metal rod that locked all the prisoners by their feet! In another room they had a woman chained to a bed, so they could rape her at will! The room was left exactly how it was, including the bloodstains on the mattress! The killed the prisoners when the Thai army approached. They used the rifle butts to save bullets!
@russellcastro5779
@russellcastro5779 5 жыл бұрын
Dead Kennedys - Police Truck
@kapohimura8721
@kapohimura8721 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Hawk
@Moises505130
@Moises505130 5 жыл бұрын
@antoniorc8795
@antoniorc8795 5 жыл бұрын
DEAD KENNEDYS - Dear Abby
@siamhie
@siamhie 5 жыл бұрын
@ourworlds atwar I second this nomination.
@kension333
@kension333 5 жыл бұрын
I like this guy. He's got a really good head on his shoulders.
@matthewalvey4760
@matthewalvey4760 3 жыл бұрын
He fucking gets it - cool dude.
@vanhattfield8292
@vanhattfield8292 3 жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised when he started talking and his awareness started showing. Good Stuff
@theborg
@theborg 3 жыл бұрын
His name is Jello Biafra
@winstonmarlowe5254
@winstonmarlowe5254 2 жыл бұрын
@@theborg Pudding Pop Ethiopa
@mickeyrube6623
@mickeyrube6623 5 жыл бұрын
finally, some punk.
@silverkyrie4714
@silverkyrie4714 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, been working for awhile to get some punk going here
@mariomariolemieux982
@mariomariolemieux982 5 жыл бұрын
We can all stand to recommend some punk.
@grindmaster7433
@grindmaster7433 5 жыл бұрын
The Exploited - Alternative
@moonooze6171
@moonooze6171 5 жыл бұрын
Hells yeah
@VanillaApe
@VanillaApe 4 жыл бұрын
All hail jello Biafra
@michaelgoldsmith635
@michaelgoldsmith635 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, but I do want make one point. You mention the "social justice warriors" that Jello Biafra is singing about in the beginning of the song. Context is important here. This song came out in 1979, which is one of the things that really makes this song so ahead of its time, and why it's one of the greatest punk songs of all time.
@bradprice8040
@bradprice8040 Жыл бұрын
I think that is the worst part. We are getting the trickle down where those college commies had children that now have children and this bullshit has passed down 2 generations so that this is what the govt is now pushing on us. The theme of an 80s punk song is the life they are pushing on us. It sucks so bad even though it could be worse.
@michaelgoldsmith635
@michaelgoldsmith635 Жыл бұрын
@@bradprice8040 Here's the thing about that. I don't think that most people fall into that "commie liberal sjw" category, even young people. Sure, it's a VERY vocal group, but I think that most people are rather middle of the road in how they actually think and feel. Granted, a lot of people talk the talk, and check all the boxes, but I think that's largely because they feel that they have to for fear of getting canceled. The problem is that it's a hard point to argue with. Rights are rights, and everyone should have equality in that regard. But that's not exactly what SJW's are asking for, is it? They want special treatment. I don't care what pronouns you want to use. You do you. But I draw the line at government mandated, compelled speech. To what degree am I supposed to participate in your personal self image? A friend of mine came out to me as trans about a year ago, and we had the pronoun discussion. What I said was this "using someone's preferred pronouns is a curtesy. You're not *entitled* to someone else's curtesy and respect. You have the right to want to use whatever pronouns you so choose, and I have the right to decide whether or not I will use then. It's no different that if you called me 'she.' It's incorrect, and I'll probably think you're an asshole, an idiot, or both, but you DO have that right to be that asshole, idiot, or both, AND neither I, nor the government, should be forcing you, or anyone, to use particular language." I'll personally use their preferred pronouns, because I love and respect that person, but it's wrong to tell me that I HAVE to use them. And THAT's what the SJW's get wrong, and why people hate them.
@joeyloucks912
@joeyloucks912 5 жыл бұрын
Vin you're understanding of what Jello is trying to say in this made me respect you so so much more!! I grew up on the Kennedys and they were a voice for an entire generation. Kudos dude!! Great reaction!!
@marcl5942
@marcl5942 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Spot on breakdown Vin.
@joeyloucks912
@joeyloucks912 5 жыл бұрын
Reagan era punk music Man. Nothing like it at all!!
@pdxangst
@pdxangst 5 жыл бұрын
I was living the LA punk scene in 1981, and it was awesome. They really need to do: Bad Brains... I Against I!
@joeyloucks912
@joeyloucks912 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely dude!! What a time to be alive then!! We need another movement like that!!
@ianloughney9570
@ianloughney9570 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, unless this whole video is sarcastic, the meaning of this song went completely over his head...
@shogunloophole8816
@shogunloophole8816 3 жыл бұрын
This song has been on my playlist for years ... perfectly encompasses the experience of a working class person encountering an affluent “college commie” .
@Rimiler
@Rimiler Жыл бұрын
100%
@mrmemes3887
@mrmemes3887 Жыл бұрын
you realize that jello was an anarchist right?
@AudibleFist
@AudibleFist Жыл бұрын
I’ve always taken it as a critique of middle of the road liberalism from the anarchist perspective like most of their songs.
@gekko2244
@gekko2244 11 ай бұрын
So what? anarchists are anti-authoritarians and communism is an authoritarian ideology@@mrmemes3887
@chariotwiggly
@chariotwiggly 10 ай бұрын
​@@AudibleFistI think the original intention was a critique of "champagne socialists" as well as tanky types who'll romanticise these allegedly communist countries that committed a ton of atrocities (soviet union, Cambodia etc.)
@tobytyler3765
@tobytyler3765 3 жыл бұрын
AT 10:09, VIn sums it up PERFECTLY! The whole song is a tongue-in-cheek SLAM of the self-righteous jackasses, poor little rich kids and their idealistic views of the world. "Shabby-chic hipsters" moving to the slums because they "empathize with the plight". Jello is a lyrical GENIUS! The art of calling someone out for they're "ignorance" and pointing out that "they do not know shit", WITHOUT ACTUALLY SAYING THOSE WORDS??? ABSOLUTELY GENIUS!!! Signed, An Old School Punk who was there when this this song was NEW! 🏴‍☠️
@thelvl1bandit345
@thelvl1bandit345 5 жыл бұрын
This song is satire. You completly missed the point of this song. Its an anti-war anthem, sung satiricaly from the point of view of a U.S. army recruiter, to a naive frsh highschool graduate, during the vietnam war. The U.S. war machine was secretly proping up the khmer rouge throughout the vietnam conflict. Pol pot was fighting aginst the vietcong/ the spread of communism, therefore he was a natural ally of the CIA, whos primary concern was limiting the spread of socialist revolution (as opposed to human rights) the recruiter starts talking about the (propaganda) horrors of living under the vietcong. Jello (the singer) then starts repeating pol pot's (a name most americans never heard of at the time, hell even today) name to shine a light on how the U.S. doesn't really care about human rights, and is willing to support genocidial dictators if it fits in with their own policy objectives. Side note: the khmer rouge, while claiming to be communists were really nationalists, whos primary goals were expelling/ exterminating all foreigners from Cambodia, and for cambodia to return to its former greatness as the Angkar kingdom, by setting up feudal agrarianism (read: not socialism), hence setting back the clocks to "The Year Zero." (actions speak louder than words) One more thing: the NSDAP (the nazis) were about as socialist as the DPRK (north korea) is democratic. (Something something night of long knives.) The nazis were far right wingers, not left wingers. (Thats why in the Weimar republic, before the nazis seized power, the nazi party sat at the far right of parliment, while the socialists sat at the far left. The nazis were representing a right wing perspective. They co-opted the word "socialist" to appeal to working class voters. Also stalin was bad, GG.
@Jpodre98
@Jpodre98 5 жыл бұрын
thank god someone who understands basic irony
@OnlyKaerius
@OnlyKaerius 5 жыл бұрын
It's an anti-communism song, it's a song about how western communists/socialists need to have a holiday in Cambodia, during the reign of the Khmer Rouge, to see the reality of what communism really is.
@REVAN2338
@REVAN2338 5 жыл бұрын
You are so wrong its hilarious
@derrickzane5834
@derrickzane5834 5 жыл бұрын
James and Kaerius. While it's cool to draw your own conclusions from music, as is your rights to do so. The song is, however, according to the writers of the song its self, *Jello Biafra and John Greenway* "Holliday in Cambodia" an attack on the on a stereotypical, moralizing, privileged American college student. Its lyrics offer a satirical view of young, well-to-do and self-righteous Americans, contrasting such a lifestyle with the genocidal dictatorship of the Khmer Rouge, led by Pol Pot and his Communist Party of Kampuchea. As Vin quite correctly pointed out in the breakdown of the song.
@segapena5033
@segapena5033 5 жыл бұрын
@Chris Bartolini read more interviews with Jello. He is a die-hard anti-authortiarian, anti-corporate leftist.
@arrya5372
@arrya5372 5 жыл бұрын
As a 15 year fan of punk, MAD RESPECT on your openness, especially after hearing the n word. You NAILED the interpretation of this song. Very impressed.
@OrganicAlchemy
@OrganicAlchemy Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think its pretty clear hes mocking the person who would use it in those situation. Even if you dont agree with his usge of it, youre likely to share his derision
@KILLnFOOLz
@KILLnFOOLz Жыл бұрын
Let’s speak plainly, this song is about BLM, AntiFa, LGBTQ and just about every “ultra” left wing activist movement . They don’t give a damn about about the communities that they claim to champion, all they care about is installing a communist system where EVERYONE is poor and controlled.
@MedHead1
@MedHead1 3 ай бұрын
Back then folks weren’t as sensitive as they are today. It was the context that mattered.
@navyactor
@navyactor 8 күн бұрын
@@MedHead1it's still a word that comes with a lot of history behind it, so regardless of the context whatever one believes on it's usage is valid
@navyactor
@navyactor 8 күн бұрын
in my opinion it's not about sensitivity. the word itself was used to intentionally demean and dehumanize people of color, so in my opinion it's usage by a white man is not okay, regardless of the situation. i think jello biafra is an amazing artist and the message he portrays here is very important, though.
@robertswain5704
@robertswain5704 5 жыл бұрын
“pack a wife” perfect message to a person who has done everything expected of them (go to school, kiss ass, get married). Not to mention, the idea of taking a loved one on your vacation
@robertswain5704
@robertswain5704 5 жыл бұрын
Treat her like luggage :))
@LarryStAmant-jc2xj
@LarryStAmant-jc2xj 5 жыл бұрын
Punk my first love. Celebrating 41 years of listening to the music.
@skeletonkiss1112
@skeletonkiss1112 5 жыл бұрын
Punk is a genre which isn't just thrown away imo. While every year has that one song everyone loves and then later forgets about. Punk has a legacy. People remember it and rightfully so. Glad my step dad introduced me to it. I'm 15 so I kinda gotta do a lot of research on what I'm listening to. As a matter of fact the dead Kennedys have taught me a lot. Some stuff is obvious and still relates to today but other stuff I do research on to better grasp something.
@aleh1124
@aleh1124 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers man... Im near to celebrate my first 20 years loving it
@unbrokenandalive1089
@unbrokenandalive1089 3 жыл бұрын
For someone who hasn't had thirty-plus years of exposure to this song (like those of us who grew up listening to the DKs) - Vin's analysis of this song was pretty spot on.
@SumBlink-lw3pg
@SumBlink-lw3pg 5 жыл бұрын
Ramones - kkk took my baby away The clash - white riot Sex pistols - god save the queen Misfits - last caress
@Draugh39
@Draugh39 5 жыл бұрын
"Don't forget to pack a wife": likely refers to the fact that so many young Cambodian men were killed, that young women in Cambodia, desperate for a husband, wanted to allow bigamy.
@oibattery3198
@oibattery3198 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think you guys understand satire punk bands like the Dead Kennedys. Glad one of you guys understood this.
@Splerpsy
@Splerpsy 6 ай бұрын
I don't think satirical is the best description, they're definitely tongue-in-cheek and snarky
@buckyhate7695
@buckyhate7695 5 жыл бұрын
What made the Kennedys great, on a lyrical basis, was Jello Biafra's ability to sing satirically, by singing from his enemy's viewpoint.
@nickdrage5774
@nickdrage5774 5 жыл бұрын
Black Flag- Rise Above Misfits - Astro Zombies Ramones - Sheena is a Punk Rocker live The Stooges - Search and Destroy The Damned - New Rose
@ethand3425
@ethand3425 5 жыл бұрын
You are forgetting The Cramps
@nickdrage5774
@nickdrage5774 5 жыл бұрын
@@ethand3425 I mentioned The Cramps in my second comment
@fullskapunkalchemist3471
@fullskapunkalchemist3471 5 жыл бұрын
Adverts - Gary Gilmore's eyes The saints - I'm stranded MC5 - kick out the jams Fugazi - waiting room
@johngardner4096
@johngardner4096 10 ай бұрын
Dead Milkmen - The Blues Song
@michaelhughes6322
@michaelhughes6322 3 жыл бұрын
You sussed this out like you'd heard the song a thousand times on the first listen. Mad respect for the high powered perception.
@nickdrage5774
@nickdrage5774 5 жыл бұрын
Bad Brains - Re - Ignition , Big Takeover live cbgb The Cramps - Garbage Man Minor Threat- In My Eyes
@Gregbaltzer
@Gregbaltzer 5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see their take on Minor Threat's Guilty of Being White and what Minor Threat were saying with that song.
@shadowclone7068
@shadowclone7068 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you still into the music keep it alive punx not dead
@eduardoschorn2135
@eduardoschorn2135 4 жыл бұрын
Up
@Neville133
@Neville133 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite songs of all time and it makes me really glad to see to intelligent people break down its meaning and give an honest critique of the subject matter. Well done indeed.
@spaceghost27
@spaceghost27 5 жыл бұрын
i think this was my favorite of all your videos Vin. i'm glad this song was picked and you gave a real opinion on what's going on
@MegaFenderstrat
@MegaFenderstrat 5 жыл бұрын
funny how when that one line came up in the first verse she cringed and looked at him like, 'how do i react?' and he's just has his eyes on the lyrics like, 'aight, where they going with this?'
@eramos9980
@eramos9980 5 жыл бұрын
Bad Brains banned in DC The Clash London Calling
@jasonsmith666
@jasonsmith666 5 жыл бұрын
Bad Brains were on the Alliance short list with that and 'Play to cum'. I'm sure they will make it on.
@davepollison4333
@davepollison4333 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasonsmith666 Not to be a wise guy but the song is actually called "Pay To Cum". I still have the original single.
@jasonsmith666
@jasonsmith666 5 жыл бұрын
@@davepollison4333 Your not being A wise guy, I'm just not concentrating when I'm typing. I do it alot.
@chrish931
@chrish931 5 жыл бұрын
Pol Pot slaughtered the educated classes in Cambodia, marched them off into the rural areas and made them farm in death camps, so the could learn the struggles of the proletariat. Jello is basically saying take your college educated middle class life to Cambodia and see what they'll do to you. Then you'll learn about the struggles you so profess to have so much knowledge about.
@felderup
@felderup 5 жыл бұрын
much like the conservatives in australia call themselves liberals... a political party can call itself whatever it wishes, doesn't mean they live up to their name.
@lzw3
@lzw3 5 жыл бұрын
felderup to be fair, they are fiscally liberal. still hate em though lol
@TempestBob
@TempestBob 5 жыл бұрын
How the hell have people made it to 2019 without having heard this a million times already?! XD
@sly11benal7
@sly11benal7 4 жыл бұрын
Cause kids now a days listen to fetti wap, n t.i., n music about who runs the block between 110th st and 111th st....n they don't n it's fukin sad. Soooo many people now!a days don't have their own thoughts hardly . I do like NF tho it's rap but it's not fukin trash like 95% of this shit comin out now
@TheRoadhammer379
@TheRoadhammer379 2 жыл бұрын
fact
@GrammazCookiez
@GrammazCookiez 5 жыл бұрын
Bad Brains- Banned in DC Minor Threat- In My Eyes Social Distortion- Another State of Mind Black Flag-Nervous Breakdown TSOL- Sounds of Laughter... Just some good ass punk for y’all 👌
@pthor6265
@pthor6265 5 жыл бұрын
My cousin was in Love Canal. Heard of them? He played with all the bands you mentioned. LC was from LA early '80's.
@GrammazCookiez
@GrammazCookiez 5 жыл бұрын
Pthor hell yeah! That’s so sick wasn’t jack Grisham their singer?
@GrammazCookiez
@GrammazCookiez 5 жыл бұрын
Pthor or I could be thinking of another band but I can’t remember right now 😂
@GrammazCookiez
@GrammazCookiez 5 жыл бұрын
Pthor wait never mind I was thinking of Vicious Circle for some reason 😂 I remember hearing that love canal came out with a bunch of their older songs recently or something?
@pthor6265
@pthor6265 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's Kerry Anderson. They tour still, or again. My Cuz can't drum anymore due to an accident, but he still talk's with them on FB. @@GrammazCookiez
@marting6037
@marting6037 4 жыл бұрын
In answer to her question "What was that?'- That was a defining moment in American punk history.
@AlanGurling
@AlanGurling 5 жыл бұрын
Just to be fair, if the Nazis were Socialist, then North Korea is also Democratic because it's in the name DPRK. And America is also the "Land of the Free" whilst being the country with the most number of prisoners ever. And if Communism killed all those people, then it's also fair to declare that the annual poverty death toll of 25 million is by Capitalism. Which in effect easily beats Communism's death toll in less than 5 years. Not here to support either side, but there's a good reason why Communism is suddenly enticing to so many young people, and it's also in the best interests of those in power to demonise communism. Any significant move to the left is seen as Communism. That's not on. Feel free to scrutinise democratic socialist countries for reference.
@iainweller452
@iainweller452 5 жыл бұрын
Bands like The Dead Kennedy’s we’re singing about subjects that mattered nowadays bands sing about nothing
@DXBCI
@DXBCI 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to Sleaford Mods, very British issues but topical and on point.
@jamesoblivion
@jamesoblivion 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of bands still sing about subjects that matter, they just don't get mainstream attention. Just like the Kennedys didn't in the 80s. The good stuff is never just lying on top of the pile. If you can't dig, that's sad, but it ain't just the times. It's you.
@shogunloophole8816
@shogunloophole8816 3 жыл бұрын
There are bands today ? Lol
@kostajovanovic3711
@kostajovanovic3711 3 жыл бұрын
Boring take
@zacharybenson3194
@zacharybenson3194 5 жыл бұрын
Ice ts band body count please
@deadliestassassin3092
@deadliestassassin3092 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah Evil Dick would be a good 1 lol.
@murphyw2215
@murphyw2215 5 жыл бұрын
KKK Bitch
@ryancoke777
@ryancoke777 5 жыл бұрын
Institutionalized!
@ronaldowens5025
@ronaldowens5025 5 жыл бұрын
I saw them live in the nineties like 92-93 with about a hundred other people in a shithole bar. Ice t was a nice dude stayed and talked and was in the crowd for the opening band.
@chiphargis2419
@chiphargis2419 5 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head with this song. Dead Kennedy’s are all about pointing out the hypocrisy
@jasonwood9655
@jasonwood9655 3 жыл бұрын
"Who was Pol Pot?". I watched this young woman's reaction to the lyrics, but not the context. "I didn't like the singer's voice" she said. I am glad she was so honest, because her reactions are of many people.
@offtheradar5767
@offtheradar5767 3 жыл бұрын
7:55 Watch the hard R's there miss
@brianna5366
@brianna5366 5 жыл бұрын
Recap, he does know but she doesn't. She just didn't like Biafra's voice & doesn't know a shit
@tsmay4598
@tsmay4598 4 жыл бұрын
No one walks around with Stalin shirts. Whether you like him or don't like him, Che Guevara was a freedom fighter who had nothing to do with Cambodia.
@supadupahilton6848
@supadupahilton6848 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding "Right Guard" deodorant is a reference to their commercials from back in the 70s? It would show someone sweating profusely (from extreme stress) but when they applied Right Guard, all of the stress was magically negated!
@damjanp7920
@damjanp7920 5 жыл бұрын
OMG he said the n-word, mrs Obama get down!
@Vulcanwoman
@Vulcanwoman 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. I don't care though I love the song.
@bobsagetbrigade
@bobsagetbrigade 5 жыл бұрын
Dark Frontier They had a black drummer
@nopenope4183
@nopenope4183 5 жыл бұрын
I think Jello was trying to comment on how people who act the way he's describing are so oblivious and are so truly out of touch with the people they claim to "know how they feel" that they'd be casually racist i found this perspective through a genius annotation and i think it makes alot of sense and i mean DH Peligro is in the band i don't think he'd be cool playing the song if that wasn't the case
@chrisskull7882
@chrisskull7882 5 жыл бұрын
It's satire it's not supposed to be serious
@RagPunker
@RagPunker 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. From the same band that has a song named "Nazi Punks F@#k Off"
@josuejimenez6174
@josuejimenez6174 Жыл бұрын
The brother broke down this song perfectly. DKs criticism of affluent leftist elites is probably my favorite thing about this band. It’s amazing seeing how well this song aged into our current era. Just a testament to how insightfully written this song was for its time.
@ancientloredude
@ancientloredude 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool that Vin quickly picked up quickly on the message of the song.
@profanepersonality
@profanepersonality 5 жыл бұрын
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out- because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me." - Martin Neimöller Hitler was not a socialist, he was a right wing fascist dictator. Hitler killed off many of the socialist leaders on "The Night of the Long Knives". You need to brush up on Hitler history, Vin.
@hanswurst6864
@hanswurst6864 5 жыл бұрын
profanepersonality the quotation is right. What you've failed to notice is that the fascism in Germany was still a very special (though no less horrible than classical socialism) brand of socialism. As seen with the way the Nazis reorganized the state („Gleichschaltung“, „Totaler Krieg“). Killing of all the other socialists just proves how radical they were and that everything left from them was to be considered Bolshewism according to their point of view. Yours truly, a believing Antifascist
@adrianshephard378
@adrianshephard378 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3TOqop4hcaHeZo
@garr123
@garr123 4 жыл бұрын
@@hanswurst6864 The Nazis pioneered the privatization of public industry. We literally get the word "reprivatization" from German when the coined it in the 30s. They destroyed the socialist trade unions and forced them into a state run "union" which forbade wage negotiation and strikes Hitler cut taxes to depression era lows at the behest of industry. While the West went to the left, instituted social programs, and nationalized industries in the 30s, the Nazis swung hard to the right.
@Layjus123
@Layjus123 4 жыл бұрын
So socialists can't kill other socialists? Socialists are still garbage like commies and nazis.
@garr123
@garr123 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlackAndDeckerBootyWrecker How original.
@Bradford659
@Bradford659 5 жыл бұрын
Dead Kennedys - Kill the Poor
@bigbad123321
@bigbad123321 5 жыл бұрын
Ummm... Child prostitution IS NOT legal in Thailand 🙄 18:00. Just thought I'd point that out
@dcinsc
@dcinsc 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously Alliance people? With as much Pepsi as Vin chugs, how could you not suggest Institutionalized by Suicidal Tendencies?
@cwarner218
@cwarner218 4 жыл бұрын
Love this song now at the age of 52 just as I did when I first heard it in the mid 80's.
@Boreal_Fiend
@Boreal_Fiend 5 жыл бұрын
True Punk
@nwmonk3105
@nwmonk3105 5 жыл бұрын
Punk 2.0 perhaps.
@jhonnycagexrage7458
@jhonnycagexrage7458 5 жыл бұрын
This might actually be the best punk song ever
@Boreal_Fiend
@Boreal_Fiend 5 жыл бұрын
Jhonny Cage X Rage Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables is probably in my top 5 punk albums of all time
@dantofthegenxfamily9529
@dantofthegenxfamily9529 5 жыл бұрын
@@nwmonk3105 the scene that created the uniform , better known as the Brit punk. Scene PUNK 2.O. DK 's are 2.5.
@Tulgar
@Tulgar 5 жыл бұрын
We're not a punk rock band, we're a new wave band!
@Abri412
@Abri412 Жыл бұрын
I should point out that Jello can definitely be an a$$hole, but he's not a racist a$$hole. The n word is there to call out other people.
@silverkyrie4714
@silverkyrie4714 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa you guys got to this way sooner than I expected. Nice. Hope you like it, more to come from us soon
@joecoastie99
@joecoastie99 2 жыл бұрын
This song is a straight up anti commie song. The racial epithet was used to shock yet convey a strong point. It’s punk rock.
@opd832
@opd832 2 жыл бұрын
Vin spitting facts!!!! Absolute fire! 🔥
@BaldyFella
@BaldyFella 5 жыл бұрын
ON POINT Vin-man. For someone like me growing up as a Brit youth in the late 1970s, The Dead Kennedys were the 'real deal' for all the punks I knew and were compared to the Sex Pistols, Clash, Buzzcocks and Damned. Excellent reaction and great choice. There's a lot of great punk stuff out there.
@deadliestassassin3092
@deadliestassassin3092 5 жыл бұрын
Hell yess, Jello Biafra is awesome. Love everything Dead Kennedys put out.
@piotrjurczyk1306
@piotrjurczyk1306 4 ай бұрын
*Gorilla biscuits-new direction *Youth of today-break down the wall *Judge-bringin’ it down Thought I’d give you these a listen. 80’s NYHC bands.
@bjhellstream
@bjhellstream 5 жыл бұрын
Nationalsocialism has nothing to do with socialism. In fact it was the socialists and communists that fought Hitler. The song has of course an ironic twist.
@DarkScorpionPete98
@DarkScorpionPete98 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, Nazis were left-wingers.
@bjhellstream
@bjhellstream 5 жыл бұрын
Pendulum Panda Did you sleep in history class? Nazis are right wing extremists. Just as fascists. National socialism has nothing to do with socialism. That is a myth! A right wing myth....
@totalcrash5006
@totalcrash5006 5 жыл бұрын
@@bjhellstream actually nazis were socialists but socialist only for the selected people, thats what we call Nationalist socialist
@MST3Killa
@MST3Killa 5 жыл бұрын
@@bjhellstream Run a side by side of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union and they're far more similar than they are different.
@cgrist7000
@cgrist7000 5 жыл бұрын
bjhellstream and capitalist fought the nazis and communist...
@bensteckler6698
@bensteckler6698 Жыл бұрын
so glad to see both of you smile at what I've always thought was Jello Biafra's greatest lyrical twist: "...where you'll Kiss Ass or Crack!" That's a line worthy of Noel Coward or Oscar Wilde!
@adsinouterspace
@adsinouterspace 5 жыл бұрын
Better late than never,I suppose! Haha One of my favorite bands as a kid in the 80's. Classic Punk Rock. I love Vin's explanation of Jello Biafra's lyrical meaning of the song-Good job,man!
@robmadcorn9573
@robmadcorn9573 5 жыл бұрын
That white B don't know PUNK why . so you don't know how can you began to try. I say punk you. If you went yo Vietnam our fight was in Cambodia trying to put the right leader in so the Opiate trade can supply our drug Barron's, what the buck do you think he's singing about. Act supreme or righteous. Bit damn you try to get it please punk was publicity motivated. Yea the nigga almost got.good job sicken & jiveen
@panpizza7924
@panpizza7924 5 жыл бұрын
24:38 She just learned about Cambodia and is now acting like she knows it, or at least that is the vibe I am getting from her at that time
@whitneymacdonald4396
@whitneymacdonald4396 3 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious. Love the bewildered looks of their faces. Imagine how this sounded in the 1980's.
@MrJahoot
@MrJahoot Жыл бұрын
It's sounded fucking great. Still does.
@artamm777
@artamm777 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Conversation.....Thank You!
@thelvl1bandit345
@thelvl1bandit345 5 жыл бұрын
Dear vin and sori- Liberals arent leftists. -signed a leftist P.s. Stalin was bad. GG
@carebear2707
@carebear2707 5 жыл бұрын
They literally mean the same thing.
@thelvl1bandit345
@thelvl1bandit345 5 жыл бұрын
@@carebear2707 what if i told you, the centrist democratic party..... isnt leftist. Riddle me this.... have you ever heard a "liberal" espouse ideas such as: the dictatorship of capital??? Seizing the means of production?? Abolishing social hierarchy??? Worker's councils?? Handing corporate control to trade unions?? Social ownership??? Proletarian internationalism??? No. You have not. Because these are not "liberal" ideas. These are just a taste of the diverse concepts found within leftist idea groups.
@xThemisJr
@xThemisJr 5 жыл бұрын
American liberalism is Leftism. Almost all of American Liberals political ideation's line up with Leftist politics.
@自我批评
@自我批评 5 жыл бұрын
​@@xThemisJr liberalism = leftism? YAAAWWWN, no one cares what a third world country thinks liberalism is.
@xThemisJr
@xThemisJr 5 жыл бұрын
@@自我批评 Thats cool. I'm a National Socialist anyway, so i really couldn't care how you see a Retarded "moral" philosophy anyway, was just pointing out a Fact.
@harrybloom9213
@harrybloom9213 Жыл бұрын
Back in 1985 my brother, my friends and I went on surfing trip from Geneva (Switzerland) to Lacanau west southern France. We were listening to the "Dead Kennedys" out loud in the car and we all forgot everything about gas... We finally ran out of gas in the middle of the night right in the center of France! We slept in the the car in a small village named "Bourg-Lastic". Got some gas the next day as the gas station opened and went on our trip, still listening to the "Dead Kennedys" out loud! Surfing trips are the best! And the "Dead Kennedys" are an eye opening if you love freedom!
@christopherpeden1124
@christopherpeden1124 5 жыл бұрын
Fresh Fruit is definitely one of the best punk albums
@polod2594
@polod2594 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic song.. I loved this album. I love how you get it and explain it perfectly for those who don't understand the lyrics.
@mrcomix5948
@mrcomix5948 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen almost all your reactions...and this is by far the best....thanks
@patrickstangle6551
@patrickstangle6551 5 жыл бұрын
Good job of understanding sir! Big thumbs up!!
@johntrickey4188
@johntrickey4188 5 жыл бұрын
To get an idea of Jello Biafra, vocalist, former, I suggest you check out some of his documentary spoken word symposiums, he is unapologetically in your face, before Henry Rollins made it cool.
@gilwood7530
@gilwood7530 5 жыл бұрын
Henrys ok for a bit ... But I can listen to JELLO for hours !
@h.rutten2187
@h.rutten2187 2 жыл бұрын
Love how you got the message straight on and had such a laugh about it that I’ve seen you guys reacting 6 months ago and here I’m watching you guys again.
@andrewhyde4708
@andrewhyde4708 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think anyone goes around wearing a Stalin shirt, Vin. And Hitler was not a socialist: he sent communists and socialists to concentration camps.
@hanswurst6864
@hanswurst6864 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hyde well, that’s not an argument to desocialize Hitler. The USSR’s communists also killed many of their fellow communists during the great purges of Stalin. What I'm saying is that just killing paople doesn’t mean, that you completely despise what they think. Hitler wasn't a socialist in the classical sense but believed in many socialist ideas like „seizing the means of production“ as seen during the „gleichschaltung“ (German for „equital shift“) and the Total War reorganization process where the state basically took most of the capital existent within it’s reach.
@Viva146
@Viva146 5 жыл бұрын
@@hanswurst6864 and the fact that with Hitler it was the government seizing the means of production and not the workers is a pretty massive difference. Once again, it's almost like Hitler used language to mask his intentions like calling his fascist organization Socialist. Dethroning the ruling capitalist class to empower a dictator is NOT and has never been the meaning of "seizing the means of production".
@hanswurst6864
@hanswurst6864 5 жыл бұрын
Viva146 Altough I agree with you that the way the means of profuction are being seized is different to the socialist ideal, it doesn’t mean that the Nazis didn't hold socialist beliefs. Comparing the 3rd Reich to countries with socialism as the form of state, one can see that in reality it was (after the revolution, of course) almost always the goverment perpetuating this principle. A very good example of this was the way that the socialist eastern German state worked. As any new industrious efforts without the goverments direct control were kept for a while and then immediatly transformed into a govermentally led institution. One very interesting case of this was the first electric car conseptualized by a very entrepreneurial young man. After he privately founded his factory, the government proceeded to immediately seize it. In conclusion, the way that socialist ideas are conceptualized and manifest themselves is not necessary the same.
@ianloughney9570
@ianloughney9570 5 жыл бұрын
The TLDR of this video is "we listen to a song with a long understood and pointed meaning that goes over our heads completely and then ignorantly conflate various forms of leftism and fascism for several minutes. Also we throw in a far right conspiracy theory about communists committing a larger than the Nazis for good measure."
@ianloughney9570
@ianloughney9570 5 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering though if this is satire because they spend the back half of this actually talking like the kind of people that the dead kennedys made this song to make fun of. The only thing that gives me pause is who uploads a half hour long satire video??
@monstergod888
@monstergod888 5 жыл бұрын
Bad Brains - I against I Bad Brains - House of Suffering
@CLoak183
@CLoak183 8 ай бұрын
Vin nailed it on interpretation! And for that I'm going to check out your channel some more!
@corrinahopper1052
@corrinahopper1052 5 жыл бұрын
"What... was that?" That was awesome, is what it was!
@StevenHauge-y6o
@StevenHauge-y6o Жыл бұрын
I like how you have the music in the background as you talk about the video.
@donnysanders5518
@donnysanders5518 5 жыл бұрын
Hell Yes Dude! So Stoked your playing some Kennedy's!!! Cant forget Minor Threat and some Suicidal Tendencies..
@kirkpaulson5954
@kirkpaulson5954 4 ай бұрын
Vin is super smart... I love you guys' videos. Entertaining and fun
@dhaub7174
@dhaub7174 5 жыл бұрын
I never heard someone get Jello so quickly. Awesome.
@peo4989
@peo4989 4 жыл бұрын
Nationasocialists were not fascists. Dont compare third reich with Italys fascism. They were capitalism LIGHT. Consider this. Communism - STATE OWNS EVERYTHING. Nationalsocialism you live free and get well payed. State owns a certain amount of factories and projects. Something that makes sure the nation is selfsustained. A certain amount of labour is needed to be protected in national workplace. Energy, mining, construction for example. Mussollini have more incommon with Stalin than Hitler.
@lukemullineux
@lukemullineux 5 жыл бұрын
She doesn't know much does she.
@Sabhoh
@Sabhoh 5 жыл бұрын
At least she’s honest about it, the guy is forever spouting fallacy.
@Katehowe3010
@Katehowe3010 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but don't place yourself in front of a camera minus your dunce hat!
@wintermoonomen
@wintermoonomen 4 ай бұрын
The beauty of punk, it opens up conversations that normally wouldn't be
@casbah1982
@casbah1982 5 жыл бұрын
BEFORE how everyone gets all pissed off at the line at 3:33, you need to realize that the Dead Kennedy's drummer, D. H. Peligro, is an African American male...and he wrote the lyrics for Holiday in Cambodia!
@antoniorc8795
@antoniorc8795 5 жыл бұрын
No, that is not correct. DH Peligro entered the band by late 1980, the song was written by Jello Biafra by 1978, recorded in 1979 and first launched as a single in 1980, the single with the same name of the song. So there is even a previous version of the song than this one.
@LateTeens709
@LateTeens709 5 жыл бұрын
DH didnt write the lyrics. He joined the band after the song was already written
@soysaucefool
@soysaucefool 5 жыл бұрын
We are talking to a ghost.
@antoniorc8795
@antoniorc8795 5 жыл бұрын
@@soysaucefool hahahahahahaha, yes...maybe Joe Strummer is extremelly ashame on the opinions he shared and decided to be dead again
@tonystofer3650
@tonystofer3650 Ай бұрын
That song was recorded way before he joined the group
@jameskennedy721
@jameskennedy721 2 жыл бұрын
You have to listen to the whole album to get this band's views clearly . They thought " liberals " could threaten freedom with too many environmental rules . They did not anticipate the kind of attacks on our freedoms that conservatives now delight in . They also thought that their audience could pick up on their sarcasm . However , their audience often overlooked the points they were trying to make , and ran with ignorant conclusions instead . Eventually , they figured out that " liberals " were not the problem .
@xSergioRottenx
@xSergioRottenx 5 жыл бұрын
Minor Threat - Straight Edge, Out of step
@atomicinjun
@atomicinjun 5 жыл бұрын
I love that you're talking about this song 40 years after it was released on a topic approximately 50 years old. I love the conversation because this is one of my favorite bands from way back when. Thank you for getting it, most folks just write this off, but Jello Biafra was onto something. Being a kid of the 70's, this was like mental napalm, especially when we'd hit the library and read the Encyclopedia Brittanica volumes to figure out what he was talking about. We were stunned, our prepubescent brains were shredded, but it made us grow up faster.
@pigeonqc4318
@pigeonqc4318 2 жыл бұрын
The build-up at the beginning of this song, is far the best of all time, all kind of music include!
@donnisraines
@donnisraines Жыл бұрын
The DKs were one of the more musical of the punk bands. Lots of twists and turns in their songs.
@yardbirds89
@yardbirds89 5 жыл бұрын
10:10 ...yuppies.........it weird to think this song was written 40 years ago and is still relevant
@lordwilksy
@lordwilksy 10 ай бұрын
Your reaction to this song was the BEST on KZbin x
@xerodelacroix5552
@xerodelacroix5552 5 жыл бұрын
Dead Kennedys - Police Truck and The Stars And Stripes of Corruption
@sopwithsnoopy8779
@sopwithsnoopy8779 5 жыл бұрын
I work with a handful of Cambodians that were there during Pol Pot's regime and escaped. One of the guys was telling me once a little bit about being starved and worked to death (for some of his friends). How they weren't given meat, had night blindness, etc. And he said when a group of them finally managed to escape, when they were on the border of Cambodia and Thailand they had to cross a river to get into Thailand. Some of the group wanted to wait until nightfall, but most of them saw freedom right there, so they charged across the shallow river. Some Khmer Rouge were there hiding with machine guns, and opened up on them. He said something like 30 of them started across, and only 10 made it (including my co-worker). I also worked with 2 Cambodian married couples (all have retired, now). Both couples were friends with each other before the Khmer Rouge came to power. Both couples escaped, but while doing so, husband from couple 'A' and wife from couple 'B' made it out together, and wife 'A' & husband 'B' made it out together. Both pairs didn't know if the others had survived, both came to the US, and after several years of thinking the others were dead, both parties re-married their friends. Then later on they found out their previous spouses survived and were in the US too. Messed up situation all around, but both couples stayed friends, when it was all said and done.
@Xervello
@Xervello 5 жыл бұрын
Great selection, guys! You should do a punk week. Fugazi's "Waiting Room", Sex Pistols' "Pretty Vacant", Sonic Youth's "Teenage Riot" and The Ramones' "Beat on the Brat" are my humble suggestions.
@johndelye3402
@johndelye3402 5 жыл бұрын
80s punk is lot like a rollercoaster version of rock and roll,you go slow at first and ZOOM! you dunno what direction the vocals,guitars,bass or drums are going but you're loving it just the same
@PaulVarricchione
@PaulVarricchione 5 жыл бұрын
Vin, you always impress me. Not many people realize how many less people Hitler killed. I'm not defending Hitler!!!! But I just love your rationalizations. We'd be buds.
@VinAndSori
@VinAndSori 5 жыл бұрын
We’re buds
@pmaster1173
@pmaster1173 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Especially Winston Churchill, considered a saint but caused deaths of millions as well.
@ghack29
@ghack29 7 ай бұрын
Vin hit the nail on the head. Well done man.
@johntrickey4188
@johntrickey4188 5 жыл бұрын
East bay Ray, just wow.
@okayananas
@okayananas 8 ай бұрын
I think the measure of this song, bar being just purely awesome, is the conversation it creates.
@desiccant
@desiccant 5 жыл бұрын
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@dreadtrain2846
@dreadtrain2846 3 жыл бұрын
National Socialism is not Socialism. The term is confusing, but they are diametrically opposed philosophies
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