Dead Malls Season 6 Episode 17 - Shenango Valley and Beaver Valley Mall (Double Feature)

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@OceanluvOC 3 ай бұрын

Seeing all these dead malls makes me appreciate malls in my area which are all thriving and always full of people shopping

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

@@OceanluvOC I wish I had that where I lived, unfortunately almost all malls in Iowa are gone..

@nole8923 3 ай бұрын

Many reasons for malls dying throughout the country. It’s usually either changing demographics and increased crime, too many other malls in the area, pain in the arse to get to etc.. But the main reason as a whole is that average Americans no longer have the time or the money because our middle class has been decimated. Less free time and less disposable income means Americans have to settle for low quality crap at Walmart. Sad, because I remember how you actually got customer service at mall shoe stores like Thom McCann and Hanover shoes in the mall. There is no such thing as customer service in Walmart. The old mall shoe stores they’d measure your foot and bring out various shoes to specifically fit your needs. The shoe section at Walmart is often a mess and is like a rummage bin sometimes.

@R32R38 3 ай бұрын

@@NorthCdogg22 What's the best remaining one, Jordan Creek?

@SuperBuickregal 3 ай бұрын

Thanks and Keep em Rolling!

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the donation!!

@SuperBuickregal 3 ай бұрын

@@NorthCdogg22 No problem, what I took from this mall is that there is an iron Works theme to it just like the Ashtabula Towne Square but more on a larger scale.

@SuperBuickregal 3 ай бұрын

@@NorthCdogg22 Uniontown Mall!

@kittyannamanx1206 3 ай бұрын

So I think this is the first time I’ve commented here. I’ve watched tons of your videos. You stand above other dead mall pages. There are 2 reasons in my opinion. The amazing music you choose enhances the experience of watching these malls and what they once were. I love the music. Second, your feelings on these malls and their pasts, presents and futures is so spot on. It’s almost as if you experienced the heyday of malls in America. I am Gen X and can proudly say I personally lived the 80s and 90s malls. From the arcade to the Disney store and everything malls had to offer. They were a huge part of growing up and one I hold dear. But everything has its season and unfortunately malls have had their time. Thanks so much for documenting this huge part of Americana. I’d consider you an honorary Gen X. Howdy from Houston.

@BlueJay6441 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, his music choices are top notch

@ShinobiShaw Ай бұрын

Oh cool, you and Andrew know each other IRL😊 I like both of your channels and content, keep up the great work❤❤

@ERA_Productions 3 ай бұрын

Excellent video as always man! Glad I was able to take you through these malls. Especially since one of them no longer exists.

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

@@ERA_Productions thanks for taking me! Always fun to do these little meet ups!

@SentaiAce 3 ай бұрын

I live right down the road from Shenango. That hidden wing was always one of my favorite anomalies.

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

@@SentaiAce it’s quite amazing!

@sunsetrecords2548 3 ай бұрын

A double feature that was well worth the wait. Great video and may SVM rest peacefully

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

@rachelrivera91 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the double feature😀 As always i truly enjoy your. Vids! Nice music to give it a nice touch, of nostalgia. Both you guys did a good job working together to preserve history of these awesome retail relics of the past for future generations to see.

@jimmyginseng 11 сағат бұрын

love the nostalgic feeling these bring. if only there was a way back to relive one of those fond memories. Hard to believe what was once a large industry is now vacant, liminal passages to a past life that no longer exists.

@SmoothWillis 3 ай бұрын

Seeing beaver valley mall in a video like this is wild. I went there so many times as a kid.

@eiguajardo 3 ай бұрын

Another lovely trip to the twentieth century, BVM feels like the late 90s never left.

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

I agree, it’s a treat!

@JoshYT1 3 ай бұрын

Great to see another double feature on your channel again to spice things up a bit! Two great malls both deserving their own stories to be told by you, keep it up! 👏

@CoolCatProductions-365 3 ай бұрын

Amazing video as always North! I love this style of video! Please do more of these.

@seabee73 3 ай бұрын

That was different seeing two malls. Beaver valley is definitely nice. The toy section was cool with the neons. The music fit in with those. The fountain area was nice. Andrew did a video of university mall here in Tampa back in May. My old high school mall. Thanks for the content. Have a great weekend.

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

Have yourself a great weekend too Seabee, thanks for watching!

@JeremysRetailExploration 3 ай бұрын

Amazing video as always man! These two malls are both equally stunning in their own way. Hopefully I can see Beaver Valley Mall for myself someday. I went to Shenango Valley once, but sadly, never made it back before it closed.

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

I hope you’re able to aswell! It’s definitely worth the drive😅

@JenniferinIllinois 3 ай бұрын

That fountain at Beaver Valley is epic! Amazing that it's still there since so many malls removed them.

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

I agree!! It was a real treat to see!

@ehfrw 3 ай бұрын

The Boscov’s at my childhood dead mall not only has all the neons humming but it still has the mirrored ceilings.

@BlueJay6441 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for a great video. Love that secret area with the retro ceiling...wow! What a find. I lived in Pittsburgh for a few years and now I really regret never visiting the BVM and checking out that awesome Boscov's

@thejigisup4470 3 ай бұрын

Welcome to PA North! Glad you came. It's great to finally see a Boscovs in one of your videos.

@ShelterCats 3 ай бұрын

Absolutely by far my favorite dead mall channel and the only one I consistently watch. Your vibe, the music, the fact that you do intelligent voice overs, that you go to malls I’ve never heard of and would otherwise not be interested in, the fact that you’re not just walking down a hallway making me dizzy with bad camera work, did I mention the music? Love your work!

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! :)

@HeyFitzy 3 ай бұрын

So wild seeing Beaver Valley Mall now in a video. That place was ALWAYS packed in the 90s and early 2000s, and was always the popular pick to hang out at when in high school. On the Chi-Chi's part, it's so sad because that place was THE place to go to for dinner in the area, and one you'd go to when you were done shopping with your family/friends. I ate there during the outbreak with my mom and grandma and had to get a shot taken. Times were much simpler back then. Great video!

@QuintusAntonious 3 ай бұрын

One correction--Hermitage did not gain "independence" in 1976 and was not founded then, it was renamed from Hickory Township to Hermitage by popular demand. I forget the exact reasons why. Growing up I was once told it was because the town had grown to the point it could become a legally bigger municipality and they wanted a name that wasn't similar to anything else in PA, but I'm not sure if this is true or just local legend. The township itself was founded in 1833. At 13:40, where you asked "Former?*" The store was in the 80s and early 90s a comic book store. After the renovation, it was an independent clothiers, which closed sometime after I moved away in 2013. Not sure if anything else existed there after that.

@roselyncampisi822 3 ай бұрын

I used to go to beaver mall. It was so packed! Alot of people. I thought it was a beautiful mall

@SlippinnnJimmy 2 ай бұрын

Beaver Valley Mall was great in the 90's and even better in the 80's!

@Shades_99 3 ай бұрын

Great video!

@msimpson6833 3 ай бұрын

A dead mall with a working water feature still...awesome

@coreycoyle9548 3 ай бұрын

Wonderful Video!!!! I Love the Fountain!!!! F+L, Corey

@haileygeertgens6447 2 ай бұрын

beaver is my local mall and yes i deffff miss the old version...its so sad :(

@jmorv8866 3 ай бұрын

I don't live that far away from BVM and I have to say that every time I go there, I feel disappointed that a once thriving epicenter of commerce, died so quickly. I was a "mall child", constantly going to them as a kid and I appreciated the community you felt going there. The "one stop shop" concept was nice, spending a Saturday from open to close, shopping, eating, entertainment as well as a great place to meet up with friends. Walking the BVM brings back a lot of memories and sometimes makes me hate that e-commerce really started the downward spiral. The pandemic didn't help either, but what I found equally disappointing that within the past year, shops closed at an alarming rate with only the anchor stores left. Now, BVM is pretty much an empty hulk of once popular stores to county government assistance and education centers. Call me crazy, but I love the last music track...who does it?

@QuietSundayLibrary 3 ай бұрын

Does anyone have a list of tracks used throughout the video? I realize that some were listed, but there are some that went unlisted. Excellent, excellent production. Thanks!

@themovietheatre 3 ай бұрын

Royalmount mall in Montréal opened last week. an rarity these days. Let's see what it does to Rockland.

@helenr991 3 ай бұрын

The second Mall looks nice

@rachelrivera91 3 ай бұрын

Agree! Nice looking mall. I hope they can revitalize it and keep reinventing it with new ways to attract people to come and visit. The stores that remain aren't bad. I like shopping at those stores actually.

@empressvogt 3 ай бұрын

WE GOT A TWOFER! Woo!

@thewhiplashfx2001 3 ай бұрын

Beaver Valley is my childhood mall! Sad to see it as it is… hopefully you got the pizza! Only reason to still go there

@luketenley 3 ай бұрын

You guys should drive a half hour west to Steubenville and visit the Fort Steuben Mall.

@frankrotunno8227 2 ай бұрын

Woolworth was Footlockers parent company. In 1999 footlocker took over the Woolworth space opening what was called a triplex, which was a large Footlocker,Kids Footlocker and a Lady Footlocker.

@bradpeterson7957 3 ай бұрын

Use to go Shenango Valley Mall for movies and CDs at FYE. And for comics at a little shop that was in there when I was a kid. Makes me sad to see it like this.

@davidhibbs6989 3 ай бұрын

I was in this same mall many years ago and it was jam packed full of people. Now it's Dead. If the Internet was never invented this would still be a crowded place!

@slackingpacking Ай бұрын

I was at Beaver Valley fairly recently. They turned off the fountain 😢.

@justinankeney6344 3 ай бұрын

How about for next week a trip to Northwoods (Peoria), they had some troublesome news earlier this year with the announcement of the closing of the Room Place.

@taydestiny38 3 ай бұрын

What song is being sampled at the 25:23 mark?

@supersanic1254 3 ай бұрын

Bro did Ohio and drove right by Sandusky Mall. How could you miss our gem of a mall going to Midway?

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

Actually I did stop by Sandusky Mall and even walked around the whole place! Was pretty packed!

@doesntmatter757 3 ай бұрын

Sandusky isn't dead anymore..... it's basically a zombie mall. They demolished half of it about 10 years ago and it's back to being "ok" for what it is now.

@nole8923 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, the flooring at Shenango mall definitely gives itself away as a 70s mall. If it isn’t terrazzo it definitely looks like terrazzo. Regardless, I’m old enough to remember the late 60s and 70s and that flooring definitely fits the late 60s and early 70s. I’m not sure if the concave ceiling is the result of a redesign at some point. It’s better than the horrible 1970s-ish office square or rectangular ceiling panels that are notorious for ugly water stains. Beaver Valley mall definitely looks more modern but I’ve never been a fan of the warehouse type ceiling for malls. But, I suppose it’s better than the original 1970s office building ceiling panels and in cases where the roof has leaks. The escalator still looks early 1970s or late 60s-ish in Boscovs. Overall a much better looking mall than Shanango. The hanging architecture helped to make the warehouse ceiling more appealing. I think a redesign of BVMs exterior might have helped to attract more customers. Great job NorthCDogg and Andrew on these 2 malls. Remember, any critiques I make on a mall is not a critique on your work. You and Andrew always produce quality content. Thanks.

@QuintusAntonious 3 ай бұрын

The flooring at Shenango Valley Mall used to be a brown and white ceramic tile, white in the center with smaller squares and a brown herringbone pattern near the edges (similar to what is still in the 70s wing). I'm pretty sure the original flooring was a white polished concrete. The terrazzo in its current form was put in during the 1990s renovation. The ceiling was also renovated in the 1990s to add the skylights and curved "airplane hangar" pattern. The original ceiling was an acoustic tile with coffered light panels.

@nole8923 3 ай бұрын

@@QuintusAntoniousThanks for the info. The original probably looked better than the 1990s redesign from what it sounds like. I’ve never like 1990s design for malls. In my opinion the 80s design like you see in the Tucson mall and the Gwinnett Place mall before it closed was the best.

@SentaiAce 3 ай бұрын

South Hills Village Mall next?

@r.severn7479 Ай бұрын

SVM suffered greatly from the loss of industry in the area. Shenango Valley used to have steel mills, tube mills, National Castings, and more, but lost all of that except a smattering of tube mills. The area did okay as long as there were still well paying jobs over in Ohio and steel mills toward Pittsburgh. GM Lordstown and Packard Electric across the line in Ohio bouyed the region, but are gone. The GE lightbulb plants in Warren, gone. GATX tank car in Masury, gone. Etc., etc. SV is just a retirement community and lower income dump now. Even Sharon Regional hospital will downsize or possibly close due the the Steward Health bankruptcy.

@reverseytvideos 3 ай бұрын

uniontown mall is my guess

@Gable3939 3 ай бұрын

I remember coming here a few times. Used to love visiting Sharon, but now it’s becoming another wasteland

@mollyheffernen 3 ай бұрын

Hello North! Quick question - did you get to Chesterfield Mall in MO before closing? I'll think of some good live stream ideas. Maybe we should think about Namdar/Kohan or something?

@AUChamps 2 ай бұрын

And Moonbeam!

@plushtimetv 3 ай бұрын

Washington Crown Center, South Hills Village, or Berkshire Mall (which i know is near philly) (UPDATE ITS WESTMORELAND MALL IK THIS STUFF)

@genericlc 3 ай бұрын

it’s not

@plushtimetv 3 ай бұрын

@@genericlc its uniontown ik

@plushtimetv 3 ай бұрын

Is it Westmoreland Mall?

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

@@plushtimetv nope but good guess!

@BlueJay6441 3 ай бұрын

Oooh that would be a good one

@phillipchea5867 3 ай бұрын

Ridgmar mall next?

@121hsil 3 ай бұрын

is it uniontown mall?

@NorthCdogg22 3 ай бұрын

Yessir you got it!

@r.severn7479 Ай бұрын

The Firestone tire store at Shenango Valley closed on Nov. 4, 2024. The signage has been removed. It was the Penney auto center in the old b&w clip. No demolition work has been started on the mall. Owners originally said that it would be razed by the end of 2024 but that's not going to happen now. I used to be a shopper, all through the '80s and '90s. But clothing styles changed, good quality replaced cheap, same cheap bland Chinese junk in all the stores. For a while, thrift stores had great wuality nice stuff but thats dried up by now. Shopping became boring by the early 2000s. Retailers love to blame online shopping, but I just stopped shopping unless I needed something. And you know I can't be the only one. I look at these mall videos and mall shopping seems a lifetime ago, a distant memory becoming more distant each year. America was over-retailed and people just aren't as interested in shopping.