Nock tuning is a very overlooked aspect of the arrow build process. Very thorough video. 👌🏻
@DeadHeadArchery2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@hoganfan2006 Жыл бұрын
How did they come out in the end? Victory spine aligns their shafts, so I’m wondering how the final Nick tuning differed from their marked spine align(?)
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
@@hoganfan2006 they run about 60% accurate
@douglash.88626 ай бұрын
@@DeadHeadArchery Regarding 60% accurate ( I agree ) Spine align, is probably just, a "Gimmick" to Sell more Arrows ,.. personally, I try make the Most accurate Arrows ( ALL the same ) THEN, I "Nock Tune" the Fletched Arrows individually for accuracy, "Perfection" and Mark the Cock Vane. Learned this from, the Ranch Fairy,.. 5-6 Years, ago AND,. IT,.. "Works"
@DeadHeadArchery6 ай бұрын
@@douglash.8862 it is a gimmick created by Easton years and years ago to sell more arrows. I have since learned to nock tune after fletch because it makes the arrow react differently. Gotta keep learning.
@stevecrader3479 Жыл бұрын
Glue bottle and Vista tips, AWESOME idea. Ordering mine right now, thank you!
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
No problem. Glad the video was helpful.
@DarinWheeler1967 Жыл бұрын
Where do you order the bottle and tips from? Thank you in advance!
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
@@DarinWheeler1967 Lancaster archery
@michaeldouglas12432 жыл бұрын
Wow, I have been bowbunting and shooting bows since 1988 or 89 and never heard of the nock tuning. I certainly am gonna be trying it before next season. Thanks for that. And I also always have about 2 flyers I call them out of a fresh dozen even back in my aluminum arrow days.
@DeadHeadArchery2 жыл бұрын
Glad we showed you something new, let us know if the nock tuning fixes those couple flyers.
@michaeldouglas12432 жыл бұрын
@@DeadHeadArchery will do
@willowcreek_archer86712 жыл бұрын
Next video should be explaining how to group tune. What do you think?
@DeadHeadArchery2 жыл бұрын
I think that would be a good one.
@bowcartel69782 жыл бұрын
That would be a great idea!
@76bliesch Жыл бұрын
I totally nock tune all my shafts also. Great video!
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
I definitely notice a difference in my groups.
@BlackCobra3312 жыл бұрын
Building the same arrows, huge help with all the tips!
@DeadHeadArchery2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help, I noticed this helped the most when tuning fix blade broadheads.
@Tullminator6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip on the adjusting the nock position on the jig.
@DeadHeadArchery6 ай бұрын
No problem, I had to learn the hard way unfortunately 🤷🏼♂️
@Tullminator6 ай бұрын
@@DeadHeadArchery I would have never known.
@stevew3718 Жыл бұрын
Awsome video, exactly what I was looking for. I have the same arrow and was having a hard time getting a helical on it using the tac driver 2.75. only at best a slight offset. I was told that the ez fletch minimax would get me the helical that I was looking for and your video helped out. Also good point about checking for spine align, I thought they were all true!
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
Ya it definitely gets an insane amount of helical for sure. I never thought about the spine align also until I decided to test it out and found out how many were off. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel Steve.
@Carson2023 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video man! Very helpful
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, we just posted another arrow build video a couple days ago. That has some helpful stuff in it as well.
@jeffmetz7665 Жыл бұрын
Good video for beginners to understand
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
thank you, there are some things I would like to go more in detail with but those would be their own videos.
@glennl9630 Жыл бұрын
Great Video
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
Thank you Glenn
@austinbowen9331 Жыл бұрын
I never nock tuned till I started building my own arrows this year. Plenty of people think it's still a waste of time. Vanes are masking how bad your form is, under or over spined, grip, or a arrow that just won't tune. It's no different than hand loading for my rifles. I don't want my bullets starting off crooked when I pull the trigger.
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
it's crazy how much of a difference it can make with such a small change
@bowhunt9968Ай бұрын
Did you square the nock end of your arrow before nock tuning. Most people square the head end because that is usually the end that gets cut, but the nock end being square is as, or even more, critical as the head end.
@DeadHeadArcheryАй бұрын
Yes we do
@DustinSilva5 ай бұрын
Curious why you decided to go with a right hand helical. Did you check the spin off your string and found it was naturally right? Ive seen some guys on KZbin say that most bow strings force a left hand spin (something about a clockwise wind with the string and serving), and going with a left hand helical preserves a slight amount of energy. Trying to decide if its worth the time to test if my bow is left vs right and buying the accompanying e-z fletch
@DJHunt8910 ай бұрын
Very good video
@DeadHeadArchery10 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@pottsiesr.77738 ай бұрын
Curious as to which broadhead you're shooting with these vanes? I shoot a 150 grain Magnus Stinger four blade (bleeder blades), the exact same arrow and tune the arrow as you do but I bought a Bitzenberger and hung up the EZ Fletch so I could four fletch the 2.25 drivers because Tac told me they wouldn't work well with my broadhead, well I had already bought them because I like their stiffness and weight compared to most vanes.
@DeadHeadArchery8 ай бұрын
That’s odd, I prefer their vanes with fixed blades BECAUSE they are so stiff and don’t collapse when the arrow is shot. I shoot the tooth of the arrow 4 blade
@Millertime962 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to find someone that uses Tac vanes with the max jig, do you have any issues with it? I was curious if they were too stiff to throw that much helical and have good adhesion. I’ve been thinking about trying out Tac drivers. Been using the max stealths but want something lighter and quieter.
@DeadHeadArchery2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t had any issues with them but I recommend as much prep as you can do. Scuff the arrow, prime the vane, and add extra pressure when first applying the vane.
@jeffreyccv Жыл бұрын
Use gorilla glue and forget about the primer!!! Gorilla glu all the way. My vains do not come off.. 4° left helical tacs on easton axis match grade , iron will single bevel . Clock tuning is a must to find out witch direction to fletch the vains and match your broadheads if using single bevels. Great video 🍻
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
I agree, I think it’s extremely important especially with fixed blades. I’m gonna do a video on vane clocking and see the effects of clocking it both ways and how it affects fixed blades
@jeffreyccv Жыл бұрын
@@DeadHeadArchery nice. I can't wait to watch.. should be cool to see the effects of a single bevel broadhead fletched w the wrong direction vains. I bet the arrow would fly all wonky. Cheers mate
@clarkj83 Жыл бұрын
Any videos coming out on leveling 1,2,3rd axis on a sight?
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
Yes, very near future
@alexwilson8888 Жыл бұрын
Not a professional nor am claiming to know anything, just curious. But would spine aligning work the same way as nock tuning or is it something that you need to do in addition to spine aligning? Or am I dumb and nock tuning is another way to ensure a spine alignment?
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
It’s the same thing. Spine align seems to be inconsistent especially since I don’t care where a machine says the stiffest spot is, I want to see how my arrow reacts to being shot out of my bow. Stick to nock tuning and group tuning and you’ll have a 99.5% complete tune.
@250zxSkeeter2 жыл бұрын
I thought victory had a spine alignment mark? Great idea on the glue bottle that is super! Also hang your jig each time by the wire and the glue runs away from the hinge points. Also put the jig in acetone for a little bit and then shake it out. Yeah I've broke a jig too... Thanks for good vid
@DeadHeadArchery2 жыл бұрын
They do but I’ve found that it’s not always accurate. For the most part it is tho.
@bigwater_outdoors Жыл бұрын
Does Willowcreek sell a deadhead archery fletching kit with all the stuff you mentioned?
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
No but the should
@bigwater_outdoors Жыл бұрын
@@DeadHeadArchery if you can get a “Dead Head bundle” setup for sale and Bret of Kasey can help me figure out what way my arrow spins out of the bow. I’ll buy a kit.
@madman4320003 ай бұрын
I thought Bill Murray was making archery videos when it first started....😂 No nock tuning, if using Victory arrows I just go with the spine aligned feature they have marked on shaft.
@duke13862 жыл бұрын
I am doing some driver 2.75 in a left hand mini max had great results with the boning heat vanes in it victory rip xv arrows
@DeadHeadArchery2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t get the heat vanes to fly good for some reason.
@duke13862 жыл бұрын
@@DeadHeadArchery I can’t get the tac driver 2.75 vanes to stick I am using a prep pen and 2 different types of glue the heat vane turn out perfectly every time
@DeadHeadArchery2 жыл бұрын
@@duke1386 are you etching the surface and acetone the shaft?
@duke13862 жыл бұрын
@@DeadHeadArchery no I just scraped it then used rubbing alcohol to wipe the shaft I used the prep pen on the shaft and the fletching.
@DeadHeadArchery2 жыл бұрын
@@duke1386 try a scotch brite pad or fine sand paper
@tjdreyer Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to that glue bottle with fine tip? I tried to get one off Amazon and it was definitely not the right thing.
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
see if these work lancasterarchery.com/products/bohning-glue-dispenser-bottle-w-regular-cap lancasterarchery.com/products/vista-glue-tips-2pk
@mattguzman739 ай бұрын
So you nock tuned but did you clock and determine the natural rotation? Or that isn’t a factor for you?
@DeadHeadArchery8 ай бұрын
I don’t worry about clocking it Bareshaft. In the end I’m shooting it with vanes and they will determine the spin.
@mattguzman738 ай бұрын
@@DeadHeadArcheryreally? Ok. I do and want the best velocity and KE down range. Don’t need my arrow starting one way and fighting to get back the other. Just my opinion.
@DeadHeadArchery7 ай бұрын
it's not fighting, the vanes become the dominant force in rotation. And it all happens in a millisecond and then it's over.@@mattguzman73
@mattguzman737 ай бұрын
@@DeadHeadArchery sure. Whatever you say.
@yourmomma2995 Жыл бұрын
you know, you are supposed to put the retainer cap on first, then gently let the base of the jig come up. it really smacks them on the shaft when you do it your way, i would bet it throws some of them up a bit higher on the arrow too. ✌
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
I guess I've been doing it wrong then lol. I haven't seen adhesion issues so maybe it didn't affect it too bad. I'll try it this way next time I use the jig. Thanks for the comment.
@madman432000 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that, seems easier to close the arms and lock them in before releasing the spring part. Drawback to these jigs is limited adjustability for offset: what do you do if you want 1° less offset for a particular vane. I like the glue tip thing though, don't really like the pour glue from one bottle to the other one. Bob Smith industries glue bottle has a nice sharp tip on it that when cut at an angle is pretty precise for applying glue to vane. And ironically it looks like the same glue that Easycare uses for glue on horse shoes, if it holds horse shoes on it should be good for arrow vanes 😅😅
@yourmomma2995 Жыл бұрын
@@madman432000 i just use what ever degree offset or helical the jig is set up for, never had a bit of problem with arrow flight from the jigs. even with large broadheads.
@stevenhicks81511 ай бұрын
Where you get little tip for glue bottles
@xplodemoto Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen anyone make a video about how close/ or not a nock tuned arrow is to the indicated spine on a spine tested arrow( not a factory indicated spine*)
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
I always nock tune. I found that they are about 50-60% accurate from where the factory mark is.
@hoganfan2006 Жыл бұрын
Bro, that TAC primer pen lasts like 10 seconds. This is a reason they recommend the Bitzenburger over the EZ Fletch.
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
who recommends it? TAC? So far, I haven't had any adhesion issues running the EZ Fletch but I'll give the Bitz a try.
@donaldburgess1003 Жыл бұрын
Are you using field points?
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
Yes
@kevintabor6586 Жыл бұрын
Shoot themin cold wreather much and watch them fall off. Happened to alot of my friends and they prepped like supposed to
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
Well that’s not good. What fletch did your friends end up going with?