Valentine (2001) KILL COUNT

[@DeadMeat]

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[@altheaedwards4987]

Do zombie land double tap

[@grrforeigner2900]

Dead Meat I don’t know how you sleep

[@bulletseverywhere2529]

Dead Meat you’re a great content creator and I really love your content, even if your not pumping these kill counts out as often as before

[@fictionforeternity8926]

That 2003 technology gives me so much nostalgia

[@jameslewis4434]

Happy leap day!

[@CriticalNobody]

That nose bleed would be so inconvenient for a killer. His body is basically triggering an involuntary "leave my DNA at every crime scene" response

[@Hydro0223]

A drop or two is pretty insufficient(but plausible) in a crime scene

[@AkiDave]

Critical Nobody right!?

[@HighAsHeckPriestess]

I was thinking that too!!

[@fuckinpandemic25]

Ok uh that's obviously you don't need to tell us

[@spacez3814]

Just keep a tissue

[@kotorandcorvid4968]

I love James comments "I was fat" James: "THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE! AND NO YOU WEREN'T!"

[@fouryou2887]

Same

[@monochromebox]

They always make me smile

[@batmanlikespizza2541]

Kosta Danicic he’s right.

[@batmanlikespizza2541]

MB Every slim person isn’t underweight.

[@batmanlikespizza2541]

MB 👍🏼

[@caitlin3810]

“Now it’s time for the kills ... slash, entire movie summary” he’s becoming self aware

[@KadeVHS]

oh shit-

[@MidnightMan04]

GET THE SNIPER TRAINED ON HIM! WHERE'S THE GOD DAMN SNIPER!

[@marcogagliardi2052]

Its starting; oh god its starting!

[@learcooks]

Oh god

[@spacetcade]

HE'S BECOME SENTIENT

[@isabelmarie2003]

Honestly, Shelby hiding in a bodybag is one of the smartest decisions I've seen in horror movie

[@designertonio5801]

Not really cause she still got caught

[@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg]

​@@designertonio5801 yeah you're hiding but you're trapped in that body bag, such an easy target once found

[@designertonio5801]

@@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg she got caught, how is that a smart decision if she got caught?

[@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg]

@@designertonio5801 no I was saying it's a bad hiding spot cause once the killer opens the zipper you are trapped, easy target for the killer

[@IslaRoseAtkinson]

@@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg Yea, But checking every body bag was smarter. But how did the killer know where Shelley was?

[@_monomorph_1411]

Dude. I walked in on my parents watching this movie when I was really young and it was the opening body bag scene. For whatever reason that scene stayed with me for YEARS (I was in kindergarten and I’m 21 now) and I honestly thought I’d dreamt it in some weird fever dream because all I could remember was the killer stabbing what kindergarten me thought were people hiding under blankets and watching the blood come out. Nothing else. Then I saw this kill count and nearly shat myself. I honestly thought my brain dreamt it up in some sort of whack ass nightmare. That was a trip

[@retr1939]

Rip childhood

[@ay6626]

Hunting Party! Yeah same here, I was about like 5 and I never knew the name of the movie but I remembered the mask

[@IGot7RevtinyArmyStayOnceBlink]

Rose Musarra GIRL!!!! I thought it was just me who had these issues. I saw it when I was very young to like 5-6 and the mask and the scene with the pool has stayed with me forever. This stuff is pretty traumatic and haunting for kid imo. 😂 crazy how this movie with such bad reviews stuck with all the children who saw it.

[@graphite7898]

Me, but with the intro to Rob Zombie's Halloween and the a portion of Human Centipede (I was like 6-7). My Mom didn't care I was watching the Halloween movie when I came down the stairs, and I always remembered Michael bashing that bully with a branch to death while he was begging for his life and screaming "I'm sorry". For the Human Centipede, I watched it around a corner and I will never get that scene where they are shitting into each other's mouths out of my head, EVER!

[@DogPerson626]

R.i.p.

[@TotallyNotALolicon]

“I was fat” “That’s not a excuse and no you weren’t” Don’t know why that made me laugh way too hard

[@LxrdInfamous]

Not A Lolicon lewd the lolis

[@TotallyNotALolicon]

Koldhart Ej Only the legal lolis

[@cheese8039]

Ye boi

[@notaperson1487]

@Carne Guisada yea be nice for once

[@carriehellbound1535]

@Carne Guisada says the dude with an anime profile pic.

[@Ash-jr7lc]

“I was fat” The actor who played her younger self: :|

[@Grodz73]

Woomy Woomy she wasn’t that big tho

[@flo.g.]

@Woomy Woomy maybe a bit, but she's nowhere near fat

[@BlueMaskGuy]

*being chubby keeps you warm*

[@jassiahthompson3878]

Woomy Woomy yeah but she wasn’t fat she was just chubby

[@MeltingMellons]

Woomy Woomy yeah but I’ve seen bigger lol

[@TheAmazingTachan]

“That’s not an excuse! And no you weren’t!” I dunno why but the delivery of that line got me.

[@DrMonkey98]

10:31

[@SnuggieMaple]

Same

[@widowgirl1254]

Same

[@dr.flavius4003]

"They don't count as characters" The people who played the dead bodies: *sad body noises*

[@englisheggwhites_2336]

I think you meant to say sad silence

[@taramullen4181]

What is a sad dead body noise?

[@balihgdah9968]

Tara Mullen that’s what I was going to ask lol

[@ultrabigfella]

@@taramullen4181 *"..."*

[@m4rczxz]

@@balihgdah9968 That's such a dumb question

[@blitz7845]

Netflix: Too all the boys who loved me Valentine: Too all the girls who rejected me

[@letiwijaya1280]

And then they will put this movie in their subscription

[@zebzee2363]

GAY

[@blitz7845]

Woahhhh..... Low on the crack dude..... Gay is good

[@olywilleventuallyanimate9646]

BlitzMcPepper Cheezit Okay I’m super sorry and probably being really rude but..... *to

[@olywilleventuallyanimate9646]

Emily Barrera No It’s just that people on the internet might react differently than your English teacher.

[@JaxBlade]

Okay so HIGHkey when I was a 10 year old kid, the thing that stuck out to me most about this movie was that younger actress who played the kid version of Denise Richards, like for years I thought that was actually her daughter cause they looked sooo similar.

[@silvershadow9967]

JaxBlade Can’t believe you are a horror movie, that is honestly great and fun to see other people like good horror movies

[@RedFoxGrappler]

A random Jax has been spotted

[@awilddobbo2869]

@@silvershadow9967 he's not a horror movie but is the gun show

[@Playyboymo]

JaxBlade Wassup Jax.

[@NotAbritishGuy]

JaxBlade Thas cool and all, but who asked

[@southerntastey]

So why didn't Jeremy Melton go after the bullies who humiliated him along with Dorothy?

[@thekiller7994]

He probably killed them off screen

[@Joe_Parmesan]

I guess the original script included details of Jeremy killing the bullies and the girls researching to find out the head bully died

[@SilverWolf442]

There was gonna be a sequel where he would have, but the film didn't do well enough to warrant another film.

[@SBdisqualified]

simple. he's an incel

[@kiroszn]

He probably lost them

[@DrDolan2000]

Who the Hell gives themself a swirly? James: "I gave myself a swirly" 😑

[@meow_bastard]

stfu

[@dddanielharryzam]

@Rikla you should make a Spidey fan account. You'll see how many toxic comments you'll get in 1 week

[@wow577]

Pines

[@DrDolan2000]

+@@wow577 Favorite type of tree

[@wow577]

@@DrDolan2000 not sure but probably birch, wbu?

[@sirnarwhal9911]

So instead of going for the bullies that assault you, you went with the girls that rejected you at a party?

[@ericjourdain892]

He was the first incel.

[@giokyo9465]

why not go fot both ?

[@spider-woman9482]

maybe he already did years, months, or even days before killing the girls. or he was planning to afterwards

[@ArshesNei8]

@@ericjourdain892 Worshipers of "Sir Elliot Rodger" would be proud.

[@Lucas_F_Melo]

If we stop to think a little, Dorothy is the real Big Bad of the movie. SHE made the false attack claim.

[@kirstengolnaz7327]

"Valentine briefly becomes bad romantic comedy, also known as most romantic comedies." Couldn't be truer.

[@ForrestFox626]

Shame. They non romcom elements of the movie wasn't that bad.

[@whyisblue923taken]

*truerer

[@SirBlackReeds]

Or could it?

[@moisemensah8233]

Minus As Good As If Gets

[@calebcarmichael2257]

I did like the romcom Love Stinks. It’s the twist at the end is what I really like.

[@ben6521]

I loved how the killer killed the girls in the order of how Jeremy asked the girls at the dance.

[@designertonio5801]

I loved how Denise was 31 when this movie came out (2001). Shes 53 now. I thought she was at least 22. I guess that wasnt that long ago if you think about it

[@IslaRoseAtkinson]

Valentine is one of those horror films with the most satisfying and creative kills

[@ikuvera]

I do Like this movie

[@alexiscando2068]

It's kind of ironic that Dorothy got killed like she was framed to be the killer just like how she framed Jeremy as her r*pist

[@andrewwalker254]

roses are red fish have gills his name is James a. Janisse LETS GET TO THE KILLS

[@DylanCEdh]

Andrew Walker this made my day

[@spiradical5307]

I love this

[@toastghost342]

I love this

[@twiggy860]

People always do this in the same way

[@offscreen6116]

*snacks lips* NOICE

[@brunocordova545]

“entire movie summary” Me: Yessir yessir

[@youtubemadeb6417]

Bruno Cordova that’s...why I’m here

[@depression8841]

"I was fat" "That's not an excuse-" "And no you weren't!"

[@domerdoos]

Anzexa Aroom kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3LHnqitfrmogtU

[@NuclearSwords]

I lowkey liked the killer's look in this movie. I'd love to see some sort of reboot of it done right because the killer is pretty creepy to me.

[@dejaalston8672]

Facts. The killer's look is so simple yet brilliant, effective and terrifying as hell😰😱 as it was just constructed perfectly so it's not really necessary for a reboot. 😍😎💯👍

[@robertwye9463]

The cherub mask and the creepy looking coat are in my opinion what makes this a top tier design

[@lumityviktuuristanartist4100]

​@robertwye9463 something about the babyface mask with an expressionless face and the black coat makes him look so fever dreamy , off and creepy , when you think about it since the mask is about cupid ( eros) who's cute and the god of love that kinda means that the dude is good-looking and kinda dreamy but that won't stop him from being a psycho Maybe I'm looking too deep into this

[@SnuggieMaple]

Fr

[@penguinmcswaggn2936]

1:22 man I can’t believe the Dwight K. Schrute would ever get rejected

[@pleaseno9410]

Penguin McSwaggn he is fucking sexy

[@sigh824]

“Forcing her to give herself a swirlie in order to finish [washing her hair]” YOU KNOW, AS ONE DOES

[@vincejoseph5937]

I thought she was cleaning her hair? What has life or movies become?

[@vincejoseph5937]

@Gold Rose ,so true?Who the heck does that.She had a sink but no.Use the toilet!

[@gabrielmwoodman9867]

I'm just confused on how Dorthy got into the mask like if he killed her and put her in it and somehow set up a system to drop her down the stairs that would make some sense but she gets up so she was just randomly trying to kill her friend

[@dan1310]

The Reddit Spaghetti maybe he knocked her out and stuffed her in the suit and when she eventually woke up she panicked and tumbled down the stair and then got up in order to figure things out? i feel like that’s the most logical explanation for what happened.

[@Davidscomix]

@@dan1310 sounds actually logical

[@ARKHAM367]

@@dan1310 that's some leslie vernon levels of preparation.

[@MrLoverboy6565]

@@dan1310 if you wake up and your face was inside a mask, the first thing you do is remove the fucking mask. you dont just wake up stand up and run around because you are in a panic. you first remove anything in your face that is narrowing vision that is instinct.

[@Threemuchfiveme]

@@MrLoverboy6565 ...except.when you're a stupid character in a horror movie. They are tropes for a reason, you know

[@MegaManDBZX]

Anyone else notice that David Boreanaz always seems to play a guy who’s killing people, talking to loved ones in cemeteries, and recovering from an addiction weather it be booze, betting, or blood?

[@crispytoenail9261]

Hey James I have a recommendation on a movie to kill count : The hills have eyes

[@gacha_nora278]

I think he has already covered it

[@crispytoenail9261]

Firetail _ nah he hasn’t

[@gacha_nora278]

@@crispytoenail9261 yeah he has search it up

[@tenzinlhamo7611]

Firetail _ I don’t think he has

[@gacha_nora278]

@@tenzinlhamo7611 yeah he has its in 2006 right?

[@Bastian-es3ns]

Fun fact: the German title is "Schrei wenn du kannst" translated is "scream if you can"

[@maggey5501]

Scream IF you can not when you can. When ist eine Zeitangabe, If die Möglichkeit.

[@earlspencer7863]

Don't they have Valentine's day in Germany

[@muffbit8735]

@@earlspencer7863 we do, germans just like to unnecessarily translate movie titles

[@user-jn1wm3tb8v]

The anomaly that it has 3 replies but says it has 2

[@alfredbernstein5640]

Earl Spencer yeah but not “valentine” It would have been valentins tag(valentines day)

[@joeladams5390]

I'm gonna be totally real, 2003 james looks exactly like the type of person to give himself a swirlie

[@dimitriwarchief301]

Yes

[@savaunx96]

​@@dimitriwarchief301 no

[@georgeapaton9591]

Wait those actually happened? I grew up in Australia and never heard of them happen outside of movies

[@claires1063]

​@@georgeapaton9591As far as I know, not really, no.

[@designertonio5801]

Cant believe Denise was 31 when this movie came out (2001). Shes 53 now. I thought she was at least 22. I guess that wasnt that long ago if you think about it

[@JMB-xb2xh]

I couldn’t stop rolling my eyes and laughing the whole movie because dude like😂

[@selectman6352]

How insensitive. PEOPLE DIED DAMN IT

[@slobonmygurt8354]

@@RekityTheHoboGod I think he's joking

[@fuckinantipope5511]

@@RekityTheHoboGod r/woooosh

[@fuckinantipope5511]

@@RekityTheHoboGod never give your siblings anything that is yours :P

[@badzi4200]

@@RekityTheHoboGod Your brother took your phone... right...

[@STVNBM-qj9qw]

James: *uploads a kill count on Friday* Me: don't...don't give me hope... Happy Valentine's day to whoever's reading this

[@gamingwithryan2.071]

Steven White You too!

[@JAYTHEBEAST2]

You too Steven.

[@kygeia6052]

You are the best have a great life

[@movedtokychwithafoxwithagr5217]

I hate this day, all I've seen today is people giving things away that all ended up in the trash

[@EggyBreadJRA]

Biggy Chez

[@HiddenInTheTruth]

"It's time for the KILLS...slash entire movie summary." may be my favorite intro yet.

[@gufaaahhh]

HiddenInTheTruth same I was like wow he finally acknowledged it haha. Love this channel.

[@kimbasciano_]

HiddenInTheTruth hahaha me too

[@mrtoast3350]

When you dont have a valentine or any valentine gifts James: here's a video my son Me: the best valentine gift

[@dragonausto1614]

S(h)ame

[@sylvainyt]

Hayden DeLong Saaaame bruh thank god Valentine’s Day fell on a Friday

[@rileyd593]

I got myself a necklace for Valentine’s Day. Coming tomorrow

[@Batman_the_bad_man]

I got an invitation to friendzone island!

[@MatthewYan]

wait son? valentine? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@trashgangyara2149]

can we just appreciate how dumb yet hilarious his "that's nice!" and "that's not nice!" phrases are, one of the many reasons why James is amazing

[@gladiogladiolus]

"I bet he calls himself an entrepreneur, blegh" - spoken like someone who went to school with Rossholes 🤣

[@DeadMeat]

Hahaha

[@mranonymous3921]

@@DeadMeat legend

[@ebonymilfhunter]

Your Girl GLaDOS your welcome for 100 likes

[@roderrickgaming9949]

@@ebonymilfhunter you forgot the @

[@jonmutanen8896]

Paige said told Jeremy that "she'd rather be boiled alive" than dance with him when he asked her in sixth grade, hence being electrocuted in the hot tub)!!!

[@cryfi7790]

"Fun" fact: all the deaths are actually based on what they had said earlier!

[@alextorres4667]

Teppy Rey NO YOURE JOKING

[@dejaalston8672]

When Jeremy asked each one of the girls to dance they state a comment that foreshadows their fates. Wacthing Jeremy getting his revenge on them was so satisfying as they all deserved it as they did not take full responsibility for their actions as their past is coming right back to haunt them all as they do not have no remorse or regret. 😏😈

[@dejaalston8672]

@@cryfi7790 When Jeremy asked each one of the girls to dance they state a comment that foreshadows their fates. Wacthing Jeremy getting his revenge on them was so satisfying as they all deserved it as they did not take full responsibility for their actions as their past is coming right back to haunt them all as they do not have no remorse or regret. 😏😈

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

This kill count will serve as my Valentines Day chocolate. Thank you James.

[@jamesshrestha9620]

Me too And can you answer me Why are you in most of the video I watch ?? Where you from ??

[@notmuggi]

JAMES shrestha he's just some random guy without a mustache😳

[@jamesshrestha9620]

@@notmuggi OK

[@lorettaaa_reacts]

Fun fact: the actress who plays Dorothy is Steven Spielberg’s real life step daughter

[@dejaalston8672]

Jessica Capshaw did a phenomenal and spectacular job portraying Dorothy Wheeler. 😍👍💯😎 Her character had a unhappy and miserable childhood due to her weight issues which affect her emotionally and mentally as it lead to lifelong anger, insecurity, jealously, and resentment towards her "pretty" and "popular" friends. In adulthood she transformed into a true beauty as she figure if she slimmed down she will gained confidence and lack insecurity but unfortunately deep down she still has that chip on her shoulder and childhood trauma. Dorothy is a complex character as it makes the audiences feel sorry for her and want her to win such as getting a chance of happiness in life but at the same time we want her to die as she was the most horrible and wrost one.

[@dejaalston8672]

@Mark Lynn Katherine Heigl and Jessica Capshaw did a phenomenal and spectacular job portraying Shelly Fisher and Dorothy Wheeler as they both put tons of emotion and depth into their roles. 😍💯👍😎

[@designertonio5801]

Cant believe Denise was 31 when this movie came out (2001). Shes 53 now. I thought she was at least 22. I guess that wasnt that long ago if you think about it

[@SnuggieMaple]

What 😂

[@SnuggieMaple]

⁠@@dejaalston8672wha

[@carlothenerd7354]

Me: man February 14th isn't that special Netflix: drops stranger things 4 trailer James:drops kill count Me: *happiness noises*

[@wilabanodeniro9780]

ME,ITS ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEE

[@boredproduction]

R.I.P Stan Lee

[@angelreyesruiz6378]

SAME SIS SAMEEE

[@woody678]

⅜⅘

[@SURESH0T9292]

That's actually really sad. Almost pathetic 😂

[@ReduxGalaxy]

To any and Everyone who was either rejected, or just doesn’t have one. Happy Valentine’s Day. Edit: wow didn’t expect this to blow up. Thank you to everyone who saw this, I hope this made your day as it did mine

[@disgruntledwelsh3817]

You're doing god's work.

[@mitchellneu]

Thanks pal

[@jvnr94]

Thanks bro

[@ThePriscillaninja]

Happy Valentines Day everyone ^^

[@shahidakhuhro3490]

Doing god's work. This is the first valentine's day that i put effort into a gift for the girl i liked, and got a valentine, so i suppose it is progress. Good luck to everyone out there. Do whatever you want. I would tell you to "be yourself" but that's horseshit.

[@Fillsx]

Can we just appreciate how many Blu-rays this man has.

[@GOOFY-q1u]

YES

[@raymartcarreon5150]

HES GONNA TAKE ALL OUR STOC

[@yeezyclout1662]

Blue ray: exists James a Janesse: ILL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK

[@dylanwright3362]

@@yeezyclout1662 foundflix: and I'll take the rest and your next stoc

[@ritslauritz1666]

@@yeezyclout1662 more like "A Fine addition to my collection"

[@Emers0ned]

Ruthie didn't deserve her death. Yes, she was a witness to Jeremy killing someone but she never did anything wrong to him (I actually don't think she knew him back to the time of the prom). I thought she would've survived if she stayed in her spot until sunlight, if he didn't see her that is.

[@Xehanort10]

And at least she tried to get through to Dorothy that Campbell only wanted her money.

[@nostalgiafan3585]

On the contrary it was a crucial witness who could have screwed up adam's plan because everyone would have known that "jeremy melton" was in the party and his would have screwed up the shit, nobody should have suspected. plus i find this murder scene quirky and scary, the way she was killed too. its has to add originality and suspense as well as violence. I find that this scene and that of the jaccuzi are the best murder scenes I have ever seen in a slasher. so maybe if we were in reality she did not deserve such a violent death but we are in a film and in a slasher we want violence, if there is no violence it sucks.

[@user-jn1wm3tb8v]

@@nostalgiafan3585 I don't just want everyone dying. The best part of a slasher is seeing if maybe, just maybe, they might live. And if they don't we get a nice bit of gore.

[@nostalgiafan3585]

0 0 the more dirty, bloody, original and scary the murders the better we like it.

[@user-jn1wm3tb8v]

@@nostalgiafan3585 I don't that much. I hate when a death just seems brutal for the sake of it. If they've been fighting for hours to live why kill them now? There are more ways to write out a character.

[@thekiller7994]

When the killer is more sympathetic than the victims

[@albertobellini98]

Never got bullied but I agree with you. I was actually rooting for the killer in this video.

[@jordansdad1221]

@@albertobellini98 yeah, just get rid of that P.O.S. mask...

[@SpairM]

The Killer so kinda like Jason?

[@thekiller7994]

Jordan what’s wrong with the mask?

[@Ravenite456]

To quote a phrase nice excuse, still murder.

[@weeptheblood]

Is no one gonna talk about how the little Jeremy kid looks like Dwight from The Office?

[@rsglobster6764]

I love this channel because you include the film making process when you do the countdown. Unlike other film channels that just bash and criticize the film, you give us insight into the hard work and effort that goes on behind the scene

[@DogPerson626]

And THEN he trashes it

[@chriserwin7823]

AKA he's not cinema sins who straight out lies and manipulates movie footage.

[@heresnegan6825]

@@chriserwin7823 finally someone who doesn't idolize that guy's lies

[@chriserwin7823]

@@heresnegan6825 check out the KZbin channel th3birdman(that's the correct spelling) he constantly rips his videos apart and it's amazing.

[@SixFootHalfling1]

@@chriserwin7823 Well dude isn’t Cinemasins just for fun. It feels petty to rip videos apart that are just made for others entertainment.

[@ciaraskyy5574]

The fact that Izzy Stevens and Arizona Robbins are in this movie and they didn’t know they were going to be on greys Anatomy and it was going to be what most people know them by is crazy

[@mjcaboose3479]

I’m still wondering why the hell Denise Richards and David Boreanaz are in this

[@dejaalston8672]

Katherine Heigl and Jessica Capshaw portrayed Shelly Fisher and Dorothy Wheeler in the movie. They both did a phenomenal and spectacular job portraying their characters as they both put tons of emotion and depth into their roles.😍👍💯😎

[@dejaalston8672]

​@@mjcaboose3479 Denise Richards and David Boreanaz did a phenomenal and spectacular job portraying Paige Prescott and Adam Carr/ Jeremy Melton as they both put tons of emotion and depth into their roles.😍👍💯😎

[@sydneyhouse8810]

Kill Count suggestion: Thirteen Ghosts (2001). It is one of my favorite horror movies of all time and I would love to hear James' commentary on it!!!

[@Oli-ey7rt]

Sydney Johnson *_G L A S S D O O R_*

[@brandon4513]

Oli “Did the lawyer split?”

[@jenniferzackschewski2189]

I second this. My husband and I saw that movie on our first date, so it has a special place in my heart.

[@ebonyn1852]

yes please!! i love that movie

[@landonez8856]

This used to scare me when I was a kid

[@rubyrose9258]

"Nasty spill down the steps" please tell me you were referencing Ferris Bueller's Day Off omg

[@royalrebel8380]

Ruby Rose how did you guys comment a day ago? The video just came out

[@thedragonofdojima6058]

Also are you still shocked about Ironwood betrayeng you in Vol 7

[@King-yyy]

@@royalrebel8380 thats what i thought wtf

[@ferry5133]

@@royalrebel8380 patreon

[@veldman-gaming5996]

@@royalrebel8380 but for real

[@ssharkbait]

“He might have gotten plastic surgery” or you might not recognize him cause of puberty and people usually just looking different as an adults most of the time. And that’s exactly what happened.

[@the13throse]

It was a real "Be careful who you call ugly in middle school" situation

[@spicfigd5735]

The13th Rose yeah its a epic moment

[@tyreezy87]

I actually felt bad for Ruthie. She had nothing to do with Jeremy's revenge and was simply just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[@IslaRoseAtkinson]

I think Jermey killed Ruthie because since she saw him kill the housekeeper, He released she might tell Dorothy and her friends so he had to kill her so she could take the secret to her grave

[@latayesha]

​@@IslaRoseAtkinsonWhy not just tie her up? And it's the killers fault for killing the housekeeper Millie!

[@NailsByAsh813]

​@@latayesha Yeah, he killed three innocent people for his selfish vengeance.

[@bumblerbree]

i think she was preoccupied at the time, but i think that was meant to be dorothey's kill along with campbell and millie bc idk why jeremy would care

[@IslaRoseAtkinson]

@@latayesha Well I don't know, Maybe Jeremy killed Millie to get into the mansion

[@djgillon3192]

I’m just wondering why Jeremy didn’t kill the bullies as well

[@Xehanort10]

Before the events of the film he probably did.

[@queerlibtardhippie9357]

They're the ones who probably broke his ribs they wouldve gone first tf

[@BlitzoSuck33]

Xenohart, you know damn well he didn't. He didn't kill them because they're males and he was an 90s Incel.

[@toatakanuva4846]

Maybe they wanted to make a sequel ... or something, I don’t know

[@justsomelochnessmonsterony8265]

@@BlitzoSuck33 That doesn't make sense.

[@thelytz9806]

We need a link for that clip of James giving himself a swirly

[@harperlou-5957]

The Lytz p l e a s e

[@katevans3795]

Why the heck would you but your head into a into a toilet rather than just wash your hair out the sink. Stupid

[@cagethelonewolf]

@@katevans3795 because the sink and only reach 1 part of ur head stupid the tolit can wishe ur whole head in one go

[@spartanz_lxl6519]

Here you go. kzbin.info/www/bejne/moLaZapvjMyLmbM

[@swatson1523]

SpArTaNz_ lxl👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 it’s fucking 2020 whyyyyy

[@masonisawesome42]

"Shameless bullying" as soon as Mickey from Shameless is shown, coincidence?

[@bradbobhayhurst8604]

Yes

[@Manzaniux15]

James is suuuuper smart with his scripts and references, probably not a coincidence.

[@arthurc5284]

1:42 “Melton. When a woman says later, she really means not ever.”

[@gangching8057]

Lmao

[@dimitriwarchief301]

Nice Refrence

[@dejaalston8672]

Kate was such a genuinely sweet and nice person. She rejected Jeremy in a kind and polite way as she was considerate and sympathetic of his feeling's and she feels remorse and empathy for him despite the fact that she knows he is the killer after Dorothy confesses that he never attacked her. Through all those 13 years Jeremy always remember Kate as the only person that ever gave him ounce of sincerity and compassion in his life which is why he always loved her and spared her life. 😍😎💯👍

[@dejaalston8672]

@@gangching8057 Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 On a serious note though Kate was such a genuinely sweet and nice person. She rejected Jeremy in a kind and polite way as she was considerate and sympathetic of his feeling's and she feels remorse and empathy for him despite the fact that she knows he is the killer after Dorothy confesses that he never attacked her. Through all those 13 years Jeremy always remember Kate as the only person that ever gave him a ounce of sincerity and compassion in his life which is why he always loved her and spared her life.😍😎👍💯

[@dejaalston8672]

@@dimitriwarchief301 Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 On a serious note though Kate was such a genuinely sweet and nice person. She rejected Jeremy in a kind and polite way as she considerate and sympathetic of his feeling's and she feels remorse and empathy for him despite the fact that she knows he is the killer after Dorothy confesses that he never attacked her. Through all those 13 years Jeremy always remember Kate as the only person that ever gave him a ounce of sincerity and compassion in his life which is why he always loved her and spared her life. 😍😎👍💯

[@techsfor5540]

James’ favorite things: 1:Kills 2:Title-cards And last but not least P R E D D Y F I G H T S

[@MP-dm8xh]

*AIR HORNS INTENSIFIES*

[@alexkoder1982]

4. His Fiance

[@jakesharrock5994]

BWAAA WAA WAA WAA WAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

[@SpairM]

5. Halloween. The holiday not the movie

[@TheLowBrassDude]

BEAT. THAT. PUPPET!

[@mr.lechat6649]

Nose bleed thing aside, can we talk about how he kills someone at a museum. Those are usually heavily guarded with cameras. No way he could have left without them caching him.

[@LaraCroftEyes1]

I know I have been to museums there is always a guard or museum staff walking around throughout the building.

[@Skopin]

He probably just opened the browser settings and cleared his recent history.

[@SonofEleknor]

@@Skopin booooo

[@bigolworm3045]

Catching

[@shayan6976]

So they died by their Valentine. Guess I'll survive

[@RainWTR]

Mood

[@explosion1704]

Me *crying in the corner intensifys*

[@akanewang2350]

Exactly. Same

[@ShiroiKodo]

The died?

[@alexbaldwin5421]

Arizona and Izzie in one movie... perfect

[@kayrockell]

I searched high and low for a grey’s comment😭thanks❤️😂😭😭😭

[@renamon5658]

I hope james covers prom night movies and carrie movies during the month of the prom

[@eyemuncher]

Imagine being the child actor for Dorothy. You are literally characterized by being called fat

[@harperlovespandas1473]

That's the only part I'd be able to get

[@royery]

So what if she is fat? u scared to tell a person they're fat even though they are fat? She was not cast to make fun of. Just like in real life, many people are chubby/fat when kids, they grow up and lose the extra weight naturally or by dieting/working out. What is wrong with that?

[@eyemuncher]

@@royery dude you're not getting it. You can't call a kid fat.

[@SquooshyCatboy]

Bimboctopus Unless you are a kid.

[@eyemuncher]

@@SquooshyCatboy not really, I mean. Kids shouldn't be called fat, period

[@Ajehy]

The killer going on the dissection table at the beginning actually has a few possible explanations. CW for psychological issues: I’m no psychologist, but he clearly has deep-seated issues. Many victims of bullying develop suicidal thoughts, or an obsession with punishment (the kind he dishes out a few minutes later). Maybe he was giving himself one last “out” before going on his rampage, or leaving his survival up to fate in some way. Or just putting himself in a position to suffer, as a scalpel to the skin of his stomach wouldn’t kill him. My big question: how did he get his shirt back on so quickly?

[@Eviltwin531]

Or... He's a psychopath on a rampage against the people he thinks has wronged them through cruel bullying, and he's enough of a sadist he wants them to psychologically suffer by bullying them right back before he kills them.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

"Warner Brother made the movie cut down on its gore thanks to concerns about violence after Columbine. Which come to think of it, was also a problem for Scream 3, maybe that's why these movies are so similarly stupid" Perfectly put, James.

[@adamestes8200]

Why are you everywhere how do I have this power

[@TracyGJacksonTV]

Most slasher films had blood and violence toned down shortly after The Columbine High School Shooting in which the entertainment industry was blamed for teen violence. Valentine wasn’t the first, the same same happened to Scream 3 which came out in February 2000.

[@toanuva6178]

*The same year that he gave himself a Swirly, I was born into this World*

[@domerdoos]

Toa nuva kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3LHnqitfrmogtU

[@toanuva6178]

What a Glorious time

[@undyingashes3520]

Same

[@Ratboi-bd4go]

Same

[@samuelledesma2895]

Same

[@grayroephotography8264]

"got rejected by all of the girls he tried talking to" Me too you aint special

[@Saiyangoddess72]

Never have I seen or even heard of a real school that only has 1 gender

[@sp3ncr733]

@@Saiyangoddess72 not even rare

[@Saiyangoddess72]

Literally never once heard anything to suggest that a real school could ever be like that until Jake Lee's comment but ok

[@sp3ncr733]

@@Saiyangoddess72 what country are you from? In the UK there are all girls schools and all boys schools. Although there are less now than when there was in the past

[@Saiyangoddess72]

@@sp3ncr733 that explains alot I don't live in Britain tho I have a friend that does, I'll ask him about it later 🙏🙏🏻🙏🏼🙏🏽🙏🏾🙏🏿

[@sleepyowl27]

James A. Janisse this kill count has made my Valentine's Day. All the best wishes to you & Chelsea!

[@justultrra3568]

That's right! There getting married in a couple months

[@tlop4fan]

Ÿęš

[@milanbeerepoot4260]

I hope they had a great dat

[@georgev7845]

David Boreanaz can’t get enough of short blondes. It looks like scenes from the 3rd season of Buffy

[@windowsVD]

He also married a short blonde in real life.

[@joaovictorabramides9977]

5:25 It’s nice to see that Steamed Hams meme is never going to die.

[@justkiddingde6506]

@Singular Mouth You call hamburgers "steamed hams"?

[@BeatrixP]

It’s a...regional dialect.

[@justkiddingde6506]

@@BeatrixP Uh-hu... Er, what region?

[@BeatrixP]

Uhhhh Upstate New York?

[@justkiddingde6506]

@@BeatrixP Really? ... ... ... Well, I'm from Utica and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "steamed hams"...

[@SK-ik9mc]

“Roses are red violets are blue, they’ll need a dental record to identify you” I am using this

[@dominik4666]

Do I call 911 now or...?

[@SK-ik9mc]

DominikΩ омега сеншу whenever I am threatening someone (for example if my Valentine’s does not make me a sandwich when I command her)

[@davidparkes7741]

I'm guessing you don't get many Valentines with that "make me a sammich" mentality huh?

[@tiaamdunord7817]

*they’ll need a dental record

[@offscreen6116]

Well your never gonna get a valentine if you command them to make you a sandwich like they're a bunch of maids

[@cameronstbernard]

Ain’t nobody talking bout that “steamed hams” reference??

[@jeremyrfritz]

It's an Albany expression.

[@timelordsrapbattles8498]

I see.

[@tudorjason]

Lol I thought about it

[@tatemarlowe]

"......can I see it?" "No."

[@zaxtonhale5860]

"YES" "...may I see it?" "uh..NO"

[@Xehanort10]

3:22 So Jeremy took off the black coat and his shirt, hid the actual corpse in the freezer, hid under the sheet and breathed just to scare her?

[@nostalgiafan3585]

this is the only detail of the movie that I have ever understood.

[@a.j.stanley6170]

I thought he just lifted his jacket up.

[@rasenshuriken9076]

"And nothing value was lost." How is this the best murder in the video?

[@thatsoneinterestingpfpyago2521]

Rasenshuriken90 Wasn’t the golden Chainsaw given to Ruthy though for how brutal that was?

[@HazeVI]

Oof Size:LARGE

[@gwynethfrei3186]

No one: Dating apps from the 90s: Just your typical Viking mathematician

[@pokochoco5931]

Hes like my 1st grade teacher.

[@BUBBAGUMP450]

Didn’t know Denise Richards was such a smoke show

[@RNC200711]

I did like the way she said "Take your hand OFF my thigh" Lol

[@TheGoldenAdonis]

She was my fav in this movie

[@NEFxDEF]

@PatronSaintOfTroll foreal where's this guy been

[@stevenperez845]

I Remember watching this movie in theaters only because David Boreanaz was in it. I was big into Buffy the Vampire Slayer and thought “I’m going to see Angel Kill some girls” I was most likely right

[@CooKidProductions]

James “a pretty straight forward slasher” Janisse

[@sashalianski7566]

I was like 100 😁

[@THEFINALCRAFT9876]

"Entire movie summary" Uhhhh... how else am I supposed to watch 4 movies in an hour?

[@je7055]

Not to mention a lot of them are much, much better in their 20-minute James's Cut version, Valentine included >_>

[@andrew_n5598]

I really want to see James do a “that’s nice” Supercut. Like so James could see this comment and do it

[@meowmeowmeowmoews]

One thing I do love about Kate’s neighbor is that he can flirt with her without even mentioning the fact she’s only wearing a towel lol-

[@DodoRibeiro-ts6po]

The Dorothy thing on the end still bugs me, but anyway, this is a post Scream average slasher, with no memorable characters or kills like many others around, only watched because of Denise Richards, a huge fan of her since Wild Things

[@shanta824]

She was hot in the 90s 💋😏

[@DodoRibeiro-ts6po]

@@shanta824 That scene of her and the goddess Neve Campbell making out in that pool is stupendous 🔥

[@DodoRibeiro-ts6po]

@American Nightmare Urban Legend is much more Scream faithful than this one and has better kills as well

[@kgeranios1]

Consider that Dorothy's sin was framing Jeremy for a crime he did not commit, and in turn was framed for the murders. It's still a cornball movie, but there is a logic to it.

[@DodoRibeiro-ts6po]

@@kgeranios1 agree with you bro, but i can't think wtf she didn't talk or removed the mask, this ending gives me Halloween H20/Resurrection vibes

[@nintendomario007]

For April Fools James should introduce himself as Janisse Z. James, do a "Live count", and watch a movie in reverse.

[@strikersub1814]

that sounds pretty good to be honest

[@Deception975]

So... Memento?

[@carriehellbound1535]

If he doesn't do this . . . I will be very upset

[@CinematicInsanity]

I want him to watch April Fool’s Day (the slasher). Would be super cool, along with your idea. Would be funny 😆

[@jonnytrotter]

To James and everyone reading this have a lovely day also James hope the surgery goes well

[@Taschip]

You just made my day:)

[@youlikejazz7844]

Jonnytrot He’s already had the surgery btw. It went well he just can’t talk for two weeks

[@user-kh9nu9sl2z]

@@youlikejazz7844 what type of surgery did he get???

[@jonnytrotter]

Taschip your welcome kind sir

[@dejaalston8672]

When Kate says " Dorothy" I felt that in my heart as she is genuinely confused, hurt, and shocked that Dorothy is the killer. 🥺😟😭

[@thesuburbanalmanac6970]

James: I put my head in a toile... Me: DISGUSTING!!!!!!!

[@taylorhensel4044]

14:34: “When the water’s good and RED-dy..” Goddam it James 😂

[@poundcake681]

Can we talk about how James swirlied his hair in a toilet😂

[@mrgustavoaraujo]

Right? Like wtf

[@coochieman6221]

No

[@engravedcunt]

Yes we can

[@toffee5266]

The Vibeing Insomniac imagine liking your own comment

[@coochieman6221]

• toffee • I would have to since I didn’t

[@kdeatherage42]

Young Jeremy looks likes a younger Dwight

[@Joe_Parmesan]

Young Kate is Angela, with blue eyes

[@GamerboyJacobTheAnger]

James: *mentions David Boreanaz* Me: can I see him?

[@dragonausto1614]

James: uhhhh *no*

[@Avocado11]

James, Dead Meat is on fire!

[@SaraBanartist]

No Commenter, it's just a vampire.

[@bettyreads222]

The David Boreanaz moment "at this time in his career in a cemetery!" Lmaooo oh Angel.

[@shanta824]

He was in that show. My face 💀💋

[@Chellygames]

it’s funny how dorothy and the first girl who gets killed both go on to star in grey’s anatomy

[@jonrivera]

Ugh Marley Shelton is such a doll And RIP Ruthie. That death was br00tal

[@dejaalston8672]

Marley Shelton did a phenomenal and spectacular job portraying Kate Davies as she put tons of emotion and depth into her role. 😍💯😎👍 Out of Shelly, Lily, Paige, and Dorothy who we're very cruel and heatless Kate is the most likeable one due to her being such a genuinely sweet and nice person. She rejected Jeremy in a kind and polite way as she was considerate and sympathetic of his feeling's and she feels remorse and empathy for him despite the fact that she knows he is the killer after Dorothy confesses that he never attacked her. Through all those 13 years Jeremy always remember Kate as the only person that ever gave him a ounce of sincerity and compassion in his life which is why he always loved her and spared her life. Ruthie's death was very brutal, explicit, graphic, violent, bloody, gruesome, and gory. To this day it still makes me cringe or squirm. 😰😱😖😣

[@CBright7831]

The soundtrack to this film was actually pretty decent.

[@LnPPersonified]

I remember it had Marilyn Manson on it, and you can't go wrong with Marilyn Manson.

[@nelproductions8153]

Doesn’t this movie have the song “god of the mind” from disturbed?

[@ShanaynayGosby]

nu metal,and industrial

[@callmejustin2624]

I’m sorry but that’s more of a opinion

[@TheCamSays]

It has RX Queen by Deftones on it.

[@alfiona7951]

"I was fat" "That's not an excuse" 11:48 "And nothing of value was lost" Lmfao 😂😂😂 Wow James 😂

[@shanta824]

yeah...the girl kiss him first.

[@adagiobreeze8493]

You should do Urban Legend series kill count. That series is so stupidly fun

[@LynnE507]

I was JUST talking about this movie due to Valentine's day. Happy to see your notification James. Best Valentine's day ever!💗

[@RC99_Productions]

Fun fact: This is the first horror movie I ever watched, and that cherub mask still haunts me today. Reminds me of the mask used in "Alice Sweet Alice".

[@plumboi6723]

Why does James look so damn good today

[@brute5464]

Plum Boi bro same

[@Killzone188]

Yeah pause then press this time stamp to get a good view 00:04

[@carlosv9208]

He always does tbh

[@brute5464]

not gonna lie he looks like a happy boi

[@purplederp5926]

It's Valentine's Day. What do you think?

[@Talia_4u]

When I was little, I used to love Valentine and the Wizard Of Oz. I would tell my grandma I wanted to watch Dorthy (I didn’t know the names of movies back then just characters lol) she would be confused which one I wanted. So to distinguish which I was speaking of, I would say “Bad Dorthy” for Valentines and “Good Dorthy” for the Wizard Of Oz. Thank you for reading this 🙃.

[@dejaalston8672]

I love Valentine. It's one of the best slasher movies. It's something about it that really intrigues me. It has this sexy and guilty pleasure vibe such as the concept, elements, tone, and theme as it was just constructed perfectly. It was such a unique and creative perspective in the slasher genre. The actresses did a great job portraying their roles. Also I love that twist ending and that song called Breed by Snake River Conspiracy that plays at the ending credits. It was just a really perfect way to end the movie. To this day I keep up a tradition of watching it every February and I consider it decent. Valentine is a true blue modern gem. Jamie Blanks directed a classic that will be in our hearts forever. It never gets old. 😍😎💯👍 Out of Shelly, Lily, and Paige Dorothy is the most horrible and wrost one. In my opinion Dorothy should have view Jeremy's invitation to dance as a positive standpoint as at least someone had interest in her since she wasn't really popular like Shelly, Lily, Paige, and Kate and everything would have been cool if Dorothy was real and just told the truth that she kissing Jeremy. For example- ( Bully)- "You like it Buffalo getting hot?" ( Dorothy)- " Yeah I am it was great." Sure she would have been still teased but at least it won't end horribly but unfortunately due to her insecurities she did Jeremy dirty. She framed him for sexual assault, got him beat up by bullies, and got sent to reform school. Everytime when I watch the scene when Dorothy confesses that Jeremy never attacked her and her justification of why she did it really makes my skin crawl as it was just absolutely pitiful. She framed him for sexual assault because she was fat like what? 😕 She wasn't even fat in my opinion. Even though she confesses it wasn't really remorseful or regretful. Watching Jeremy getting his revenge on Dorothy was so satisfying as it put a smirk on my face as she deserved everything that came to her as she was the main source of Jeremy's public humiliation. 😏😈

[@claires1063]

How young were you when you were watching this shit?

[@Talia_4u]

@@claires1063 a toddler

[@DeGamez]

5:23 I love the Steamed Hams reference James lol

[@carleeelizabeth]

AURORA BOREALIS?! at this time of day, at this time of year, in this part of the country, located entirely within your kitchen?!

[@ShootTheDamnZombie]

@@carleeelizabeth YESSSS!

[@jacobthomas957]

De LG oh my

[@carleeelizabeth]

oh my god i just got to it that is perfect

[@carleeelizabeth]

@@ShootTheDamnZombie ...may i see it?

[@unpopular.opinions2114]

Why do people dislike James’s vids

[@jimsmowing1330]

Nah it's just the Australian people thinking it's the like button

[@jimmy_the_squid9456]

Some of them just want to watch a supercut of all the kills without going through the entire movie

[@justyourfriendlypebble8943]

People probably get scared or something

[@jesuschrist7572]

the same reason people go to hell

[@frruitloop7488]

@@jimmy_the_squid9456 There's a thing called skipping through the vid

[@MiSSJUiCEBOXXLiVE]

“Sits up like a serial killer”...or ya know..The Undertaker😭

[@Lightnatural]

Miss.Phoenixx i’m kinda dissapointed he didn’t say that knowing James is a huge fan of wrestling.

[@darkest.diamond]

That's exactly what I said!!

[@bandgeekforlife406]

I have to be appreciative of the fact that when Dorothy says, "I was fat!" James says both, "That's not an excuse!" as well as, "And no, you weren't!" Too many people use vapid excuses for social cruelty, so it's nice to see that called out, even in a work of fiction. Additionally, too many young people have unrealistic expectations of what they should look like- even in a work of fiction. When I was in elementary school I thought that I was, in my own words, "stocky." This was mostly because I was naturally more muscular than other girls (partially due to genetics, and partially due to being more physically active), but I didn't realize that was the difference. I knew that I wasn't fat, but I also didn't think I was particularly thin. At some point when I had grown up some and looked back on childhood photos, I realized that while it hadn't actually bothered me (I enjoyed being physically capable- thanks Mom and Dad!), the way I imagined myself hadn't been accurate. I know a lot of other people HAVE been damaged through developing an inaccurate and negative self-image as a child, so it's nice that the observation that Dorothy wasn't fat is just made so genuinely in this vid :)

[@dejaalston8672]

What I love about Valentine is that it shows despite having a background, reputation, upbringing, social status, characteristic, personality, category, and image you can still maintain a friendship with all sorts of different individual's. Shelly, Lily, Paige, Kate, and Dorothy we're all best friends since childhood that all care about each other very much but despite that Dorothy was very unhappy and miserable due to her weight issues. Ever since 6th grade Dorothy had that reputation and image of being "fat", "ugly", and "unpopular" compare to her "pretty" and "popular" friends which earned her the nicknamed "The Big Fat One" and "Buffalo" which affect her emotionally and mentally as it lead to lifelong anger, insecurity, jealously, and resentment towards Shelly, Lily, Paige, and Kate. In my opinion I don't understand how can Dorothy be a social outcast. I mean sure she was overweight as a child but she was rich. I'm pretty sure if her classmate's knew that she would be popular just like Shelly, Lily, Paige, and Kate. If Dorothy had confidence her life would have been better as she will be refer as "The Rich One." In adulthood she transformed into a true beauty as she figure if she slimmed down she will gained confidence and lack insecurity but unfortunately deep down she still has that chip on her shoulder and childhood trauma. Sure Dorothy was the richest out of Shelly, Lily, Paige, and Kate but to her she didn't accept that as she wanted popularity, credibility, recognition, likeability, and admiration like her friends based on the argument between her and Kate when they both accused their boyfriend's of being the killer which is Adam (Kate's boyfriend) and Campbell ( Dorothy's boyfriend) as Dorothy figure that Kate was jealous but in reality Kate was stating logical and common facts. 1. She been dating Campbell for a month and she doesn't even know his last name? 2. She mention what Ruthie his ex-girlfriend, and 3. How well do you really know Campbell? It made her angry that she finally told Kate of how she feels about being "The Fat One as she rants about their personality and characteristic traits as she said "Come on Kate you always been the popular one, and Shelly was always the brainy one, and Lily was the fun one, and Paige was the sexy one, and I was the big fat one!!!!!!" And as far as you concerned that's exactly the way how it is Well you know what? Screwed all of you!!!!! I can tell Kate was hurt and shocked of how she kept this. To Dorothy things will never change and stay the same like earlier years ago as she will be always unhappy and miserable due to her belief her "unpopularity" as Shelly, Lily, Paige, and Kate will always have great things and happiness in their life due to their "popularity". Dorothy should at least be grateful for her friends because they all genuinely and sincerely like her for she was but Dorothy was blinded by rage fury to see that. In my opinion Dorothy is a complex character. It makes the audience feel sorry for her and want her to win such as getting a chance of happiness in life but at the same time we want her to die as she was the most horrible and worst one out of Shelly, Lily, and Paige. In my opinion Dorothy should have view Jeremy's invitation to dance as a positive standpoint as at least someone had interest in her since she wasn't really popular like Shelly, Lily, Paige, and Kate and everything would have been cool if Dorothy was real and just told the truth that she was kissing Jeremy. For example- ( Bully)- "You like it Buffalo getting hot?" ( Dorothy)- "Yeah I am it was great." Sure she would have been still teased but at least it won't end horribly but unfortunately due to her insecurities she did Jeremy dirty. She framed him for sexual assault, got him beat up by bullies, and got sent to reform school. Everytime when I watch the scene when Dorothy confesses that Jeremy never attacked her and her justification of why she did it really makes my skin crawl as it was just absolutely pitiful. She framed him for sexual assault because she was fat like what? 😕 She wasn't even fat in my opinion. Even though she confesses it wasn't really remorseful or regretful. Watching Jeremy getting his revenge on Dorothy was so satisfying as it put a smirk on my face as she deserved everything that came to her as she was the main source of Jeremy's public humiliation. 😏😈