Dealership Couldn't Fix This ATV So I Got It For CHEAP

I buy a 2005 Can Am Outlander 400 Max ATV for cheap after a dealership couldn't fix it. #ATV, #Fix,
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[@Alwhite1929]

Damn, that starter deserves a medal.

[@snowyowl7042]

😂thinking the same thing, my dad would have slapped me into next week - DUMMKOPF!

[@sveinfarstad3897]

It comes from a good family 🙂

[@AM-dn4lk]

And the battery too.

[@CiaranGallagher77]

Do I need to repair any ATVs , No Do I own an ATV also no Am I watching every second of every video yes 👌👍

[@razorsharpbt124]

You love it! 😄

[@ra3or]

same

[@RockyMtnguy01]

A starter manufacturer needs to hire Joe to test their starters as much as he uses them on each machine.

[@robertdelinsky7247]

Yes hes pretty hard on them

[@andybowyer3602]

😂😂😂

[@michaelfowler8289]

I agree for a while there on some of his builds I thought he was just going to pull the plugs out and push the starter button to get it to go ride it like that😅😮😊😂

[@josephcanova4810]

You can hear it has no compression but Joe just leans into that starter button! 😅

[@josephcanova4810]

12:44 until he finally puts the compression tester on it. Unbelievable

[@type72able]

I only recently started watching your videos but I'm already addicted, I love the way you record the steps at the right speed and with just the right amount of detail for anyone to understand and follow, and your systematic approach to fault finding, great stuff! I've learnt a lot already about engines in general.

[@wyogunman]

This last spring I bought a beautiful Polaris 500 with low miles for $50 lol. Guy said it had zero compression which was correct. It just had a soft gasket from the intake stuck in the intake valve. One cheap head gasket later and I have a 1500 mile $50 quad

[@bradfrye8297]

Still junk polaris.. lol

[@douglasfitzsimmons654]

Sand in the carb is never good, I reckon it will need a rebuild

[@douglasfitzsimmons654]

Wow, I take my hat of to you sir, sounds good

[@thebigtenfarm822]

But did you get your starter cherry red?

[@BuilderofRat]

@@bradfrye8297 I love all three of my Polarizes. I have owned Polaris quads since 1990. I have NEVER EVER had to walk out because my machine died. I usually ride 5,000 miles a year between my dirt bike and quad. When I was much younger, I rode my duel sport bikes 10,000 to 15,000 miles a year. I also had excellent luck with my Yamahas. Please tell all of us what brand of machine that you ride. I would like to know. If you are proud of it, tell us. By the way, I mean that I have 3 Polaris 4 wheelers right now. A 2022 570 Trail, a 2009 Sportsman 500, and a 2018 RZR 900. I have owned 2 1990 350s, 2 1995 sportsman 500s, 2 1999 Sportsman 500s, 2 2002 Sportsman 500s and a 2009 that I still have, and a 2012 that I traded in for my 2022 machine. The only thing that ever happened out on the trails is, I lost a belt on my 2012 machine. I was 30 miles from the truck, BUT, I always carry a spare belt and enough tools to change it. Took me 30 minutes on the side of a mountain at 8,000 feet in elevation. Spectacular view while changing the belt. I DO trust my Polaris machines, and I always ride alone.

[@stephen8117]

What a EXCELLENT MECHANIC, Joe actually THINKS about what he`s doing and why. Mechanic work is 40 percent diagnosis , 20 parts swapping , and 40 percent fine tuning. He is a MASTER at his art. My profession is a two stroke boat mechanic. So i get his thought processes.

[@eatsomebread3907]

Glazing

[@buffdoc46]

When that needle jumped up, I laughed so hard. Excellent 🎉

[@pauljackson7443]

JUST IMPRESSIVE HOW YOUR MIND WORKS. LOVE THE VIDEOS AND WATCHING THE WAY YOU ELIMINATE ONE THING TO ANOTHER TILL YOU GET TO THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM. KEEP DOING WHAT YOU’RE DOING!!

[@christophermarshall6593]

Hello, I’m not mechanically inclined but I absolutely enjoy watching you figure out each ATV, motorcycle issue. So wish I had just half of your knowledge to be able to do this as well

[@Mksmth]

I was unable to work on my wife’s quad last year. Long story short, took it to the “most reputable “ dealership in my area, they told me it had zero compression and $3600 to rebuild. I obviously passed and when I was able to work on it again, the compression was on the higher end of the specs. All I wanted was it tuned up and gone through. So glad I have the knowledge to not get completely ripped off.

[@Yz4Life]

Damn

[@Yz4Life]

That’s why I do not trust dealerships at all. It’s a known fact most of a dealerships income is from working on the vehicles they sell and not actually from selling them lol

[@BigPoppieSeed]

@@Yz4Life My old, old lady was one of the top earning, service writers for both GM and Ford back in the day, and you are exactly right. They get big time commission for every job they sell...and sell she did.

[@donaldkaderis5524]

You can sell it back to the guy you brought it from for 1500

[@chevman21]

How many hours do you have into repairing it? It seems like less than a day based on the video.

[@erick1076]

Great work. Id suggest changing the timing chain and tensionor though as it didnt jump time for no reason.

[@sethsafe]

Probably came from the factory like that!

[@mikek7714]

It's great to actually watch videos that explain the thought process of troubleshooting and show the steps to repair. Thank you.

[@dangroce82]

If you’re testing for low compression, why would you leave that filthy air filter in? You need air to create compression. As a small engine mechanic, I’ve had several mowers come in with plugged air filters, and after I removed the filter they started and ran fine. You need four major items for an engine to run - air, fuel, spark, timing - and number 5 compression. The big glob in the carb bowl could explain why it ran and then wouldn’t. Gunk will float around and then cover ports intermittently. Nice catch on the timing!! Great the way you reasoned it through and watched for symptoms that didn’t “seem” to be related. Good job. I think this is a great example of why knowing and remembering to check those five factors I mentioned before is important.

[@MyCjmiller]

My Can-Am dealer could not figure out how to put a belt on my Defender. When I contacted BRP, they sent me a voucher for $1500 in accessories. The dealer then installed my new doors upside down and backwards and claimed BRP sent them the wrong doors. Nice machines that are let down by a lackluster dealer network.

[@yamahabasher1]

Which dealer? I could sure use $1500 in accessories. 🙂

[@losi8ightyew]

Would not surprise me, the big wigs at can-am are not huge on hiring folks for their dealerships and ensuring they are well trained/versed on their brand. You'd think they would be though...

[@Pittsburgh-412]

Wow thats insane 😂. Who are they hiring 😳

[@alexandernagy1153]

My dad believe in the marvel mystery oil he said it will fix anything I sure miss him working on my stuff . Keep on keeping on great channel

[@Hammerback0]

Wow. Great find. Feel sorry for the seller. I guess it is possible that the stealership mechanic made an honest mistake, i just have very little use for them personally

[@mostlymotorized]

"Dealer cant fix it" = labor cost exceeds the value. It doesn't mean they can't actually fix it

[@JIMPETERSON-n7i]

@@mostlymotorized-- Could be, eh? They don't want to get stuck with something not worth the repair bill against it. After I got burned a couple of times working on houses, I thought I should be working on vehicles instead. At least that way, you got collateral to make sure you get paid.

[@JohnnieV]

@@JIMPETERSON-n7ior maybe they could take payment b4 the work is done.

[@TheHomeDesigner123]

You are so talented. It is impressive to watch someone who knows his trade work on machines to get them working.

[@rogerkasheboro]

I had that exact machine. Make sure you check the front suspension. Mine was shot when I traded it in for a Commander. I didn't even feel any signs that the suspension was bad. That machine rides like a Cadillac!

[@krusejonathan01]

I had the 500 twin. That seat was so soft. Very comfortable machine. I also got rid of mine after buying a Commander back in 14.

[@andykjohnsonjohnson7622]

Fantastic diagnostic 👍👌👏. Quadruple your money for a resell 😊😊. I bet the guy how owned it, is a little pissd OFF. That you GOT it up & running at that cost .

[@luvnher87]

Got to love a Rotax engine! Almost 20 years old and still kicking. And you mentioned you never worked on a can am but you worked on the Ds650 I Believe 3 years ago.

[@minnesotatomcat]

Vinny barking in the background sent my dogs into a full out shitfit, they were convinced there was a dog in the house 🤣

[@PutOnYourLid]

Joe, I know I wrote this before but you never answered. I do the same as you. I buy old Bikes and get them running. I restore them after getting them running good. About 2-3 Bikes a year for the past 40 years. Now my process is simple. A good wash and clean of all parts while assembled. Then a diagnosis and general check out. Then I strip it down completely. The most important thing is the initial wash and clean. It means clean parts to work with. This is key to me because it is much easier to see everything. Cracks, breaks and more. No dirt gets into the inside too. My hands are cleaner. Why do you not do this easy and simple job! I ask myself every time I watch your vids. Dont get me wrong I like your work.

[@bigzen69]

Joe can see right through that dirt You don't need no stinking Pressure washer.

[@jayweed2813]

Thats the first thing i do every time

[@hawkpost44]

How lazy can people be not to even look at the air cleaner.

[@JetzeMellema]

Agree, that's what I was thinking the whole time. Clean it first, then start working on it.

[@BrandonLund]

Joe, I can't believe how many machines you work on every week and post. Well done brother!

[@Jeff44]

I've suggested he might have a twin brother halving the workload. Or perhaps Jade is super skilled in searching the internet and selecting bargains for her husband to get stuck into fixing :o).

[@johnalexander1816]

I have the same bike so i was interested in see what was wrong in case I ever had an issue. When you were testing it and were manually pull starting it to do the pressure test I wondered how you were pulling it so easy. I thought maybe there was something wrong with my bike because it is crazy hard to pull start. But then it all made sense when you figured it out. Thank you for this video. I learned so much about troubleshooting my bike if needed.

[@alexmacdonald258]

Great job! I learn a lot on diagnostic strategies by watching your videos, and think they're really well done in addition to the valuable and thorough explanations you provide. A great teaching tool!

[@greened57]

For me it’s fun watching CT go through his learning curve. Would love love love to see him put some beautiful colors on those VWs.

[@L46C3]

Great DIAGNOSTIC/TROUBLE SHOOTING work Joe! Experience shinning through! Everyone needs to give a thumbs up on this one! Spectacular! Can you tell us the hour amount you put in??? Just a word on the mechanic from a business standpoint. So, the shop puts in 5 hours, going through what you did only to find that their diag. was correct. You say "too much, don't fix it". The shop says you owe us $700.00 labor at $140 per hour.. Oh, and don't forget the shop fees, the rags used ect. for another $50. You're not a happy camper.

[@MM_in_Havasu]

Pretty darn good find with this ATV! The fact it even ran with valve timing severely retarded was amazing in itself, great troubleshooting there. Thanks for another good & informative video, Joe!

[@Jimsalos]

I'm sure Vinny would follow you to the ends of the earth, Joe! Great job diagnosing and fixing this quad

[@mdemartile]

Lots of dealers won't touch older machines. It wasn't always this way. I can understand the hesitation on the dealers part, however, if doctors operated this way, more people would be needlessly dead. Great course on how to diagnose engine troubles.

[@ronaldwestover8990]

I have the exact same machine which I bought used about 5 years ago. Runs great. Mostly used for snowplowing and work around the house.

[@sierraandnick]

been watching for a long long long time can't remember when i started lmao definitely with you and your brother , love the content have been buying and flipping bikes on the side for quite some time and i gotta say thank you for all the help and great content along the way wouldn't have been possible without you !

[@jlschump]

That valve lash will get ya every time. I have done this many times to quads people brought in to the shop. Most of the time its the first thing I check when they say its hard to start, typically people clean the carb in that situation (it never hurts), but setting the valves always did the trick for me.

[@whitishd7264]

I love your channel. I have never worked on anything but I have learned a lot from watching you. Now I can have a semi-intelligent conversation with my son....

[@snowyowl7042]

Wow, someone didn't want to spend time diagnosing. Great job

[@boyerbassing6471]

One of my favorite videos so far! This is what flipping is all about.. great job man

[@frankrongione6778]

Awesome video you really have a knack for fixing these. I am glued to watching your videos.

[@robertgreer5229]

I love the stories these people give. “I was clearing snow with the machine and ❄️ just went in for a snort came out didn’t wont start now”Lol 😅 looks like someone submarine it? Air filter has a ring looked like on it. Will see now back to the video!!!

[@chriswablington7118]

Excellent video! Way to take the mechanic’s diagnosis to task

[@niccer28]

I had two of them 400 max wheelers an 05 and an 06 the whole time it was running before you got the timing fixed I kept saying it does not sound right. And just like you said when it started after fixing the timing I said awe that sounds better. Great job. Great troubleshooting.

[@gallopingg1]

Great job, just a thought, you said you were going to message the owner to maybe give his machanic a miss for future repairs/work on anything! as they let him down BIG TIME,!!! it would be amazing for you to sell it back to him for what you paid for it plus the parts, plus what ever you would have charged for the work/hours done!! A VID ON YOU RETURNING THE QUAD! just because you can! To know you've helped someone to that level of kindness!! i'm sure would be worth more than any amount of proffit made on selling it to just anyone!! YOUR SUBSCRIBERS WOULD HAVE NEXT LEVEL RESPECT FOR YOU. UNITED KINGDOM.

[@steveww07]

guy probably doesnt want it back

[@71rcode72]

Joe always impressive man. Don't listen to the comments about abusing the starter. It gives all of us hope that our vintage starters are going to hang on way longer than we expect.

[@copperaudio9664]

Outstanding troubleshooting! Really top notch. 😎👍

[@Zack-sp7tw]

at first sounded like our lawnmower 😂

[@alantorrance6153]

Checking oil level. With these and similar engines, you normally do NOT screw the dipstick in. You measure with the stick resting on the filler tube. Check the user manual.

[@tomjonas7384]

You’re a top-notch, small engine mechanic

[@edwardweisenburg6585]

Making three grand on a deal is called a home run. Nice job man❤

[@petegraham1458]

Good troubleshooting process! Well done! Nice save

[@tonylowery8502]

Joe next time you’re upholstering a seat try cutting a quarter inch groove in the center of that flat head and put half of the flathead under the staple and twist. The torque pulls them out with ease.

[@mitchsing1109]

Great diagnostic breakdown, a true tech head Bro. 🇨🇦

[@MegaGoogoohead]

Dude I did what you are doing my whole life I'm retired now but glad to see some of the younger generation in the game! Have a good one from Tennessee!

[@ManMountainMetals]

Henderson TN in da house, go Vols!

[@TexasRedneck]

wonder when you can get more money from youtube you could fix these and then give them back to the owners? Like surprise them with it and say, it only took this to fix it. But I know you put a lot of your time into these filming and editing and not to mention the time it takes searching for and getting these quads. Thanks for the knowledge share!

[@MGower4465]

2:51 Doggo to the rescue!

[@markhendry2149]

Great work especially for your first time working on a Bombardier. 200 psi healthy engine.

[@jamesmcvicar7713]

You are obviously a good mechanic and I enjoy your videos.

[@TroyRosenbaugh]

Amazing what that small tweak can do for overall power.

[@tuguybear930]

The mechanic knackered the valve timing on purpose. He was intending on ripping that guy off.

[@toddt6592]

First and foremost.... I LOVE watching all of your videos. Now for my .02 although i know that it wasn't asked for...... call me OCD but i've always tried to wash a piece of equipment prior to getting into the motor etc.... i've always thought "God help me if dirt gets in there". Keep up the awesome content!

[@scpatriot5270]

Great job i admire your patience 👍

[@Veer1958]

What gets me is I’ve never heard him curse or throw a wrench in frustration.

[@Claytoncox100]

Compression test and spark check before anything else and also canam’s don’t have wet clutches I know you mentioned the oil was rated for wet clutches.

[@PhilFry-gj6xq]

Repair shop check out/diag process is always minimal as we know. They prolly quoted worst case scenario and still would've rebuilt even if they discovered what the actual issue was. Doubt a talk with the tech will happen. Money talks. Worked with a few criminals at the auto dealership for over 20yrs. Easy to spot 'em, getting management to recognize is another issue. Great job brother. Really enjoy seeing all these bikes come back to life.

[@JoshuaJonah]

I run a repair shop and no, not all of us are scammers. The amount of free diag work I do is excruciating.

[@jasonjgr8580]

Can't believe the 4 wheeler would even run with how bad the timing was off.

[@mr_mcgoo2632]

It's great that you got it fixed and the troubleshooting is great. But I believe you said early in the video that someone said the timing chain jumped a tooth and you didn't believe that. It's gotta be hard to think about what you are doing and narrating at the same time . Great video .

[@sonnysteckler949]

Great video . Just happened to have same situation in a roundabout way . I should start videoing my strange situations and posting them . Needless to say my daughter has a nice 4 wheeler that cost me 30 dollars and about 1 day of my time. Cheers

[@allanarndt3047]

612 hours? That’s new yet! Shit, I have 2,590 hours on my 2006 Polaris Ranger & it still runs great! I have done a fair amount of replacement of wear items like front & rear differential bearings a couple belts also a couple axles but nothing I haven’t been able to repair. Good luck with your “High mileage” machine. lol!

[@tuberNunya]

Excellent. NOW it is running right. Good job. Still hear clattering on the test ride.

[@Eyepealer]

Well done! It seems you can’t trust shops anymore. Even if it needed a top end it shouldn’t be over 3000 bucks

[@blackbobjo]

Thanks for working on a Can Am this time 😊

[@MsMoose1979]

What patience you display!

[@bobg5823]

I call this problem the bank breaker or a widow maker ,,,, I've to gave up on this vary symptom vary vary frustrating I felt it , but thank you for showing me now for the future to know how to go about this again thank you

[@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez]

I still can't believe that you work on machines regularly and always fail to check timing as a preliminary step. It is literally the second thing I check. Spark plugs, timing, compression, carb clean and air filter all in that order. If you checked timing first you would have saved a lot of time.

[@Smalltechguy]

And yet another project well done. I also can't sleep when I have projects to figure out. I had no idea about that bolt though to make it lock into TDC. Good call. Most of these so-called mechanics don't surprise me at all. Charge all that money for labor and still have to end up taking it elsewhere. Sure is a bunch of dust where you live at. Too bad you didn't clean all that underbody. I hate dust and dirt especially the areas that you don't see.

[@alive.off-grid]

Right on. I'm going to save this video. I need this just to keep mine on the road and it's old . Thank you

[@porthole12]

If you had some sand and gunk in the carb, I think that cheap inline fuel filter could be loaded and as it runs the dirt settles in it and blocks next restart. Agree with other commenter, a trip through an ultrasound would be a good as well

[@KLP99]

It sounds to me like it's 180 degrees out of phase, but probably not, since you got it running before messing that much. Nice job, and nice video.

[@robertherbert1306]

Unfortunately, this is pretty rampant even in the car, motorcycle, ATV, boat, mechanics are far and few in between at least ones that actually know what they are doing! Very few in the younger generation want to actually work Their Lazy these days!! But some like you are willing too actually work and you are reaping the benefits of that work! 👍🏼

[@DustinDoesStuff]

Check spark, fuel, compression in that order. First pull spark plugs out and ground on engine, see if they spark. Then pull air filter off, make sure there are no obstructions and spray starting fluid (don't waste time to see if fuel system is working). If still not running then check compression. If compression is good then your ignition timing is probably off.

[@petemartus6712]

Good job dude ! U should call that guy back and let him know about that mechanic.

[@PatrickEisenmenger-ey4eu]

The suspention needs some lube/oil mechanically sounds great nice work!!!

[@jameslakes5019]

Your hell of mechanic great job 476 dollar 4 wheeler

[@minnesotatomcat]

How did you end up at $460, I would have loved to watch that haggle! 🤣 that’s the funnest part of buying stuff like that is picking it apart and trying to knock them down on their price and see how cheap you can get stuff for 👍

[@francismarion1786]

Lmao the moment I heard it was a canam I said to myself "Oh! No wonder they couldn't fix it! Thats your first problem"😂😂😂

[@lancefales1816]

I had this same one 12,000 miles on it before I gave it away it was a beast

[@staninjapan07]

very nicely done i do love a good diagnostics video good skills if i were to guy who sold it for 460 dollars, i would be properly pissed off about that, though that is not your fault of course, you did him a favor and took the risk if i may, the best bit of this video is watching your devoted hound run after you i almost never do this but... subscribed after one video

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

So who fcuked up the valve timing by 3 teeth ??? 😕 Good diagnostic 🤗 😎👍☘️🍺

[@greathornedowl3644]

Great Buy, see Can-Am, but never bought one. Great Job putting the puzzle back together. Special guest star 2Vinny 🤣Like me, so happy it is running - even roughly - you kiss the garage floor knowing a few more twists and running like a watch

[@michaelanthony3816]

Ck your crankshaft Woodrow key for shearing Good luck

[@JamesJ7851]

Outstanding, pays to know your machine inside and out, or easy to get screwed by dishonorable or terrible mechanics.

[@notagain8661]

Joe, maybe approach the old owner to see if you could come to a reasonable amount for your time if he would buy it back? But you might make more by listing and flipping it?

[@Cbsmd-zq4zx]

Joe takes large risks each purchase. When he ends up losing thousands on a buy, does the seller feel bad and pay Joe for losing thousands?

[@abcertweld]

My father had one 400 outlander easy very reliable. Only oain to replace a timing chain you literally have to take everything apart, to include pulling head and cracking the engine pack in two. Orher than that very reliable atv. It says it is a interference engine, but it really isn't, just a heads up.

[@smellycheese2466]

The 1 thing I have learned from his videos: nobody knows what a valve or a carburetor is

[@stevenmcinnis8105]

How would it get air with that dirty filter? Guess I will watch more.😊

[@stevenpitts376]

i have 2003 bombardier outlander that i'm currently using right now thing runs and rides solid use it year around to get firewood and plowing during the winter and trail riding during the summer can am really make a fantastic product to last that long and still rides like it's new lol

[@STEVE_M439]

Great video Joe. I've also noticed quite an improvement in content quality since Vinny took over as your project manager.

[@seedsman02]

Hello mate, Kev from a small town called Bulahdelah, on the east coast of Australia here, i enjoy your show its great. If i could cheekily make a suggestion, could you possibly get more light on the job, specifically the engine area. And thanks for the excellent show its always a learning process for me, cheers. ps, no snow in AUS you can have that cold weather. lol

[@tomcook5813]

Marvel mystery oil was developed to help WW1 aircraft engine valve issues, good stuff. I even use it as cutting oil.

[@opengate5849]

This was a good one, good call thinking it over

[@royyazzie6028]

Valve adjustment lashes intake/exhaust 👍

[@rifleman1873]

You have great skill!! How did you acquire this knowledge? Did you go to school for this or did you develop this skill in the school of hard-knocks? Either way I am impressed.

[@coolbrotha123]

First off, love your videos. I'm not sure if it is a part of you protecting the sellers interest you acquire these items from, but it would be cool to know what you think the new value or what you would ask in price for these machines after you get them back up and running. Especially on something like this $460 quad.

[@danburch9989]

If I were the previous owner of that ATV and saw your video, I'd be pissed! No at you but at the shop that quoted a $3200 repair bill. They proabably did a compression check and figured the engine was blown. The question is how or why did the valve timing jump.