Dean Brown: Polyrhythms

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Күн бұрын

Musicians Institute and Guitar World bring you a series of guitar lessons with some of the top guitar instructors around.
In this video, Dean Brown gives a lesson on Polyrhythms.

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@ghostjazztrio
@ghostjazztrio Жыл бұрын
It's great to have legendary guitarist Dean Brown producing and performing on my new Ghost Jazz Trio album Groovin Smooth to release in March 2023. He's an amazing talent on every level. His contributions to the music world is unmatched and invaluable.
@markscountlessbarks
@markscountlessbarks 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Dean Brown in 1983 at Wolfgang's in SF with a young Steve Smith's "Vital Information". Mike Stern on the other guitar! Dean was so bad ass and grooved so wild. It was a life changer. Great teaching here.
@keithamyx1215
@keithamyx1215 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, The greatest school for the musician there ever IS!
@maninthesuit666
@maninthesuit666 13 жыл бұрын
this is by far the best lesson in the series so far
@McNoiseboy
@McNoiseboy 8 жыл бұрын
This guy's 'Unfinished Business' album is excellent! Adding this to my lessons playlist for sure.
@GlennMichaelThompson
@GlennMichaelThompson 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson Dean. I've loved your playing for as long as I can remember. It's obvious you realize the importance of groove, feel, and timing. SO many teachers (and students) concentrate on melody and speed 1st and foremost, which to me is backwards. I'd rather have a great time feel over being able to shred "faster than the speed of music"! lol I picked up your dvd Modern Techniques For The Electric Guitarist and am looking forward to spending time with it. Thanks again, for all the great music you put out there.
@mtlhero514
@mtlhero514 9 жыл бұрын
Cool lesson. Reminded me of King Crimson's album "Discipline". The title track to that album is a cluster fuck of polyrhythms between the two guitarists.
@got2bharmony655
@got2bharmony655 9 жыл бұрын
Some of the people commenting here obviously don't know how respected Dean Brown is. Yes he may not be the best teacher on KZbin but he is an awesome guitar player who has been hired by some of the best in the business. How about having the decency of thanking the guy for trying to help less talented and experienced people extend their musical vocabulary. As for who he looks like, who gives a ***!!
@speedspeed121
@speedspeed121 8 жыл бұрын
He may be the best, but he doesn't understand poly-rhythms.
@MediHusky
@MediHusky 7 жыл бұрын
good guitarist =! good teacher
@Danumurti18
@Danumurti18 5 жыл бұрын
@@speedspeed121 this is polymeter right? I'm little bit confused
@nikiw1856
@nikiw1856 4 жыл бұрын
If its not polyrhythms 2:40 , then what is it?
@dorne
@dorne 13 жыл бұрын
Great lesson Dean. Some would recognize this a funk lesson as well!!
@prhdg
@prhdg 11 жыл бұрын
These examples are not polyrhythms. They are all polymeters 3/8, 5/8, 7/8 etc over a 4/4 beat. A polyrhythm for example 3 against 2 (the most basic) would be the equivalent tapping quarter notes with one hand against quarter note triplets with the other hand. So in a 7 against 4 polyrhythm you would put 7 evenly spaced beats on top of your 4 normal beats and the 1 for each count would always fall on the same beat every new bar.
@ashishvivian2224
@ashishvivian2224 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not exactly polyrhythmic but it’s a part of it! But he is not completely right. So I agree with you!
@Appalachian_trail_mix
@Appalachian_trail_mix 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty sure kashmir by zep is a polymeter thoigh he saod its polyrhythm in the beginning
@Mr.KnowItAll40
@Mr.KnowItAll40 6 жыл бұрын
This is called Polymeter actually, Polyrhythm means each bar theres two rhythms playing at once, (3 over 4) for example, so the 3 beats would fill the exact space of the 4 beats.
@yeyogak32
@yeyogak32 2 ай бұрын
Totally right. Polymeters are notes that pass over the measures and they align later. Polyrythms are two different metrics working at the same time
@jeremiahrostig2330
@jeremiahrostig2330 11 жыл бұрын
i played also poly ryhthms for a long time, but now i know what i have done. i think its quite helpful upload, and thank you for this.
@chefallen520
@chefallen520 7 жыл бұрын
I regret , that I don't really know you but I do know your playing. Thank you for all your contributions.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 10 жыл бұрын
Might be worth mentioning some guitarists who use this technique all the time. A few I've come across:Al Di Meola, John McGlaughlin, Ed Wynne, Frank Zappa, Steve Vai.
@AndreaBoccarusso
@AndreaBoccarusso 11 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Doesn't polyrythm the different subdivision of a measure by different parts of music? For example, a drummer who plays quarter notes with the kick and, simultaneously, quarter notes in 6 with the ride/hi-hat? I know polyrythms in this way ... maybe I'm wrong
@Skorupq
@Skorupq 9 жыл бұрын
That's very interesting, thanks for this useful lesson :-)
@SeeMick1
@SeeMick1 13 жыл бұрын
@summitthescale Not to mention that they're homorhythmic as everyone is moving in unison. Most people don't seem to understand what polyrhythm really is.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 10 жыл бұрын
That was a really great lesson. Thanks.
@tongbei1
@tongbei1 13 жыл бұрын
King Crimson w/ Adrian Belew & Rober Fripp were masters of poly rhythm.
@marcoleung7137
@marcoleung7137 11 жыл бұрын
good stuff teacher, i m the student of you in your ensemble from HK. miss your class, and you!
@slunkzilla
@slunkzilla 13 жыл бұрын
@MooseyFate100 agreed. one of his bests, amazing track, definitely worth checking out!
@augustusbetucius2931
@augustusbetucius2931 Ай бұрын
He could have any guitar he wanted, yet he used that Roland GR controller guitar. Obviously because he liked it and they played well, (which they did, I owned one with a GR 700 and 300. They were as good as the best Japanese made guitars). So he was more about what worked, rather than what was cool.
@timehat6781
@timehat6781 12 жыл бұрын
I have to go with Mr. Brown's definition of polyrhythm that includes both different groupings of the same subdivisions (polymeter) and simultaneous tempi (tuplets). I think the reaction here at the man's "failure" to mention Meshuggah is a bit silly although I do adore them and they did really start my journey into "serious" music. His Charles Ives reference is spot on, and I would recommend people go check his music out instead of getting sore and being blind about music that isn't tech metal.
@AaronQ1222
@AaronQ1222 8 жыл бұрын
It's definitely more calculated. You have to feel it out, but you also have to really be counting the beats.
@tuhsdxas
@tuhsdxas 11 жыл бұрын
Syncopation is a bit more general. It refers to notes not played on the downbeats. Polyrhythms are multiple specific patterns occurring at once
@supremoluminary
@supremoluminary 11 жыл бұрын
"To make this a little more dramatic, just play the accents and now you'll really be able to hear the polyrhythms." What you are doing, accenting a normally weak beat, is called "syncopation". It is also an ostinato. Polyrhythm is simultaneous, different and contrasting rhythms, involving some odd number, such as 3 on 2, 5 on 2, 9 on 2 (as in my video response), and many more.
@JoeKataldo
@JoeKataldo 13 жыл бұрын
@PSIboy66 heheh right, but they use cross rhythms more
@TheAdambee7
@TheAdambee7 6 жыл бұрын
King Crimson Discipline album is a good one for polyrhythms
@c4bb4g3
@c4bb4g3 13 жыл бұрын
@perfectmelon it's just an expression meaning that they do it very well. nobody honestly believes they started it, unless they just began listening to music
@mcdefmarx
@mcdefmarx 13 жыл бұрын
@Guitareben Triplets over quavers can be thought of the same way as two seperate time signatures; e.g. 12/8 over 4/4
@RicardoDiazHimself
@RicardoDiazHimself 13 жыл бұрын
@MaartenIB Thats a sick ass song! more than polyrithms i think the cool thing about lateralus is that it has Lots of time signature changes
@standindarkness
@standindarkness 13 жыл бұрын
@OGodTheTubes This should be one of the highest rated comments.
@shayne881
@shayne881 2 жыл бұрын
I can play them and feel them all right.But when I stop and think of analyzing them it all messes up and I if I should stop the intellect from questioning.And that goes for "weird" chord voicings I sometimes play ,wanting to know what is it...where is it going to go now? Thanks a lot.
@frankie.d1127
@frankie.d1127 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome lesson!!!
@nuke97
@nuke97 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent upload.
@BullToTheShit
@BullToTheShit 9 жыл бұрын
♪ In the last example he says he's adding one extra 16th "note" to make it a 7-note phrase, but that's a little misleading. He adds a 16th-note "rest", not an extra note. He's still playing only six notes.
@summitthescale
@summitthescale 13 жыл бұрын
@Steve128967 Thank you. Meshuggah and Periphery are pretty much 4/4 all the time. Love the music though.
@TheHumbuckerboy
@TheHumbuckerboy 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting looking guitar ! I like it.
@EternalCosmicTruthOrchestra
@EternalCosmicTruthOrchestra 11 жыл бұрын
I think this video is describing polymeter, not polyrhythm. Much respect, from an old MI graduate (1982).
@devd27
@devd27 7 жыл бұрын
Great lesson, Jeremy Irons.
@Jamescornelison
@Jamescornelison 11 жыл бұрын
blew my mind, thank you for this
@rygar7483
@rygar7483 13 жыл бұрын
@c4bb4g3 because they mostly use polymeters, syncapation and rythmic displacement. But yeah I do get sick of the only band that comes to mind when talking about this even though I do like them. It's like 50% of the comments is saying something about meshuggah.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 10 жыл бұрын
I was totally comfortable in my ability to play what he demoed until that last phrase. And I had the thought that sounds like John McLaughlin. I need to practice rests in my Polyrhythms. Godammn that's a hard word to spell, never mind. Luv and Peace. :-)
@bulzah
@bulzah 10 жыл бұрын
if u are intersting in John McLaughlin music and the way the hes mind work about rhythm u must learn some basics of Konokol
@PinkchrisFloyd
@PinkchrisFloyd 11 жыл бұрын
Very useful, thanks a lot.
@Bentonias
@Bentonias 13 жыл бұрын
Biffy Clyro right? This was a really cool lesson.
@xmsparker
@xmsparker 9 жыл бұрын
That was a cool lesson
@TheMetalHeaD256
@TheMetalHeaD256 13 жыл бұрын
i love polyrhythms. the best ones are in heavy metal, IMO. like Pantera.
@drjazz7278
@drjazz7278 5 жыл бұрын
Top tutorial. Thanks... And thanks for reminding me of the Banana Splits... (06.00)
@hginct
@hginct 11 жыл бұрын
what he's describing and playing are contradictory. he describes polyrhythms fine (two contrasting pulse or subdivisions), but he ends up playing polymeters in a two bar 4/4 context, which means the 3/16 pulse, 5/16 pulse, ad 7/16 pulse end up being cut short in order to fit in those two bars. he really should have made that distinction before going into any further detail
@summitthescale
@summitthescale 13 жыл бұрын
@ZeppelinRules Those groove patterns get old really quick, but I do love when they are used sparingly. Sometimes it can give a song super groove like in Icarus Lives by Periphery. Not a fan of bands that base every single song off of sporadic chugging though.
@S0nArch
@S0nArch 11 жыл бұрын
gotta love them polyrhythms
@davidliu81211
@davidliu81211 11 жыл бұрын
Really helpful video, thx!
@c4bb4g3
@c4bb4g3 13 жыл бұрын
previous comments saying that Meshuggah don't use polyrhythms because they're in 4/4...what did Dean Brown just do? did you not watch the video? everything was in 4/4.
@TheMetalHeaD256
@TheMetalHeaD256 13 жыл бұрын
@ibanezbloke that's really cool, man.
@TheMetalHeaD256
@TheMetalHeaD256 13 жыл бұрын
@SidVicious10101 stuff like Primal Concrete Sledge, the outtro to Domination, and Live In A Hole stand out to me. i only have Cowboys from Hell and Vulgar Display of Power so i'm sure there's a lot more.
@physicalremoval24
@physicalremoval24 13 жыл бұрын
@TheMetalHeaD256 or meshuggah :) meshuggan and pantera are both in my top 4 bands :)
@zxcvbs
@zxcvbs 9 жыл бұрын
Hi this lesson is great but too short. Can anyone point me to polyrhythm lessons, book applied to guitar? is there any transcription of this?
@TheHumbuckerboy
@TheHumbuckerboy 3 жыл бұрын
What model of guitar is this ? It looks very appealing 😃
@DECIFERTHIS09
@DECIFERTHIS09 9 жыл бұрын
poly rhythm with a quick delay is my shit, just a strong building percussive sound.
@sihplak
@sihplak 10 жыл бұрын
Wish some people would do videos on polyrhythms against odd time signatures, like 5/16 against 7/8.
@theneovas1
@theneovas1 6 жыл бұрын
sihplak RADIOHEAD
@tegolin
@tegolin 13 жыл бұрын
Chaos of Forms by Revocation!
@RicardoDiazHimself
@RicardoDiazHimself 13 жыл бұрын
Ive always do this kind of things, and never realized i was doing polyrithms, ive always tought i was just playing with the accents and group of notes to give a counterpoint or syncopation kind of feel... Nice!
@c4bb4g3
@c4bb4g3 12 жыл бұрын
I don't understand what you're talking about. He has a 4/4 groove and he's playing different note groupings/accents over top of it. That's pretty much all you hear out of Meshuggah
@guitarralaraja
@guitarralaraja 11 жыл бұрын
Right!!! Confusion between polyrythms v/s polymeters
@WalrusDoom
@WalrusDoom 13 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of notes here and also I've noticed some guitar strings
@SonicBoomerang01
@SonicBoomerang01 13 жыл бұрын
I plea ingorance guys lol Can someone please tell me about the guitar he's playing? Neal Schon played one live with Journey for a few years but I never knew exactly who made them or where to find them. Looks Fender-esque but The logo on the headstock shows that to be wrong. Please help guys!!! lol
@pokopiko1942
@pokopiko1942 9 жыл бұрын
not to mention the masters of polyrythming...Meshuggah!
@MrSaiLikesPie
@MrSaiLikesPie 8 жыл бұрын
Meshuggah!
@liamseven8971
@liamseven8971 8 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that!
@sdrbox
@sdrbox 8 жыл бұрын
and Periphery!
@MrSaiLikesPie
@MrSaiLikesPie 8 жыл бұрын
animals as leaders. I met Tosin Abassi and Matt Garstka
@Eddieshred
@Eddieshred 8 жыл бұрын
How about Brian Ferneyhough :)
@kongerle
@kongerle 13 жыл бұрын
You had me at Charles Ives!!! :)
@antyplastyka
@antyplastyka 11 жыл бұрын
Seems i do use those in my playing but i can't djent nor count the notes yet. Damn so frustrating
@TheStratman707
@TheStratman707 13 жыл бұрын
..rhcp are one of the best at this
@cbr0oks
@cbr0oks 12 жыл бұрын
so polyrhythms are just beat phrases in a different time signature, correct?
@Megadedly
@Megadedly 13 жыл бұрын
@breaker9 The Faceless use 'em as well.
@nblax41
@nblax41 13 жыл бұрын
Meshuggah play in 4/4 people. They just have long patterns that make it seem polyrhythmic.
@AnarchoTeenPunkNL
@AnarchoTeenPunkNL 9 жыл бұрын
i'm gonna do this at bass
@sentris
@sentris 13 жыл бұрын
Im still trying to figure out TesseracT's stuff, some of it ive gotten used to just by muscle memory but can someone tell me their patterns they have going on or something?
@zackyandhisguitar
@zackyandhisguitar 13 жыл бұрын
@mcdefmarx dude your talking about poly meters when u put it in those terms
@JeffPenaify
@JeffPenaify 11 жыл бұрын
I been playing polyrhythms for years and never knew it o.0
@420aloha420
@420aloha420 11 жыл бұрын
that guitar looks fucking comfortable
@1herbiekritzer
@1herbiekritzer 9 жыл бұрын
just say . . hippopotamus hippopotamus hippopotamus hippopotamus . . a good way to count 5.
@TriggerHappyGamers
@TriggerHappyGamers 9 жыл бұрын
herbie kritzer This actually helped me understand the theory quite well. ^
@kelvinmalakar
@kelvinmalakar 7 жыл бұрын
Or any word or sentence with syllables accordingly.
@dukeellington1987
@dukeellington1987 5 жыл бұрын
Simple and brilliant
@hoowoah
@hoowoah 13 жыл бұрын
Scale The Summit!
@rogerzibell3489
@rogerzibell3489 6 жыл бұрын
I watched this twice. Dean is the one needing a lesson....... more then one actually.
@GmzMusik
@GmzMusik 5 жыл бұрын
Leave my teacher alone lol
@avyanez
@avyanez 13 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the purple guitar?
@ROCKSESBWNR
@ROCKSESBWNR 7 жыл бұрын
but does it djent?
@opiumaddict6362
@opiumaddict6362 8 жыл бұрын
please someone, can tell me who is the classical musician who use polyrhythms... at the beginning of the video he names to charles ¿?¿?.... english is not my native language, so i don't get it. greetings
@baconater4000
@baconater4000 8 жыл бұрын
+OpIUm AddIct charles ives
@opiumaddict6362
@opiumaddict6362 8 жыл бұрын
+baconater4000 thank you for the answer! really appreciate
@MooseyFate100
@MooseyFate100 13 жыл бұрын
Listen to Buckethead - Thai Fighter Swarm. He's doing shit there that I can't even fathom, rhythm wise.
@RavalSuraj
@RavalSuraj 9 жыл бұрын
I wish it had humbuckers. Can someone tell me what guitar that is? Thanks!
@OrenClark
@OrenClark 9 жыл бұрын
Good question. The headstock looks like a cut-down standard 70s Fender, so the neck might be out-sourced, but the body seems different at the horns, and obviously custom elsewhere. It seems to say "GR" on the h/s, but I can't find anything that matches.
@OrenClark
@OrenClark 9 жыл бұрын
Oren Clark Ahhh ... I was looking at Roland, but couldn't find it. www.deanbrown.com/gear/
@OrenClark
@OrenClark 9 жыл бұрын
Oren Clark www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-80s-Roland-G-505-Guitar-Controller-with-OHSC-/171711565846?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27face9016
@JohnBenoit46290
@JohnBenoit46290 13 жыл бұрын
@TheMetalHeaD256 They used polyrhythms? What songs?
@jambac
@jambac 11 жыл бұрын
Hilarious! that comment sounds like a dad yelling at his kids. "what did I just say? I will turn this youtube video around right now!"
@TheBlackDahlia815
@TheBlackDahlia815 13 жыл бұрын
@Guitareben what are polymeters?
@toneseeker87
@toneseeker87 7 жыл бұрын
where have you been all my life?
@taylorshred
@taylorshred 12 жыл бұрын
@c4bb4g3 most band use polyrhythms without knowing, its just the nature of music.
@shayne881
@shayne881 2 жыл бұрын
Polyrhythm and polymeters sound the same but are notated in different ways
@Ulveren
@Ulveren 11 жыл бұрын
Charles Ives reference, FTW.
@mrmikespence1964
@mrmikespence1964 6 жыл бұрын
"JAZZ!MUSIC GREAT" (DB)! (THE! JAZZ!MAN)! *MIKE SPENCE!
@nblax41
@nblax41 13 жыл бұрын
@PSIboy66 Because 90% of their music is in 4/4. Thats why.
@bobsumner1667
@bobsumner1667 7 жыл бұрын
Kashmir is 4/4 with the accent on 1 and 3
@iamjakkal
@iamjakkal 12 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but I've got to stop you there, Meshuggah are known massively for their use of polyrhythms, they use them in such drastic but skilled measures. I do understand where you're coming from that it may seem that they are in 4/4, but that is just the drums, then the guitar parts are in a much different time signature, causing the two rhythms to meet up every so often thus keeping it in time.
@hideki12345
@hideki12345 13 жыл бұрын
want poyrythms ? check out vildhjarta, monuments, atlanticore, meshuggah, periphery, tesseract, animals as leaders
@DYZSYX
@DYZSYX 12 жыл бұрын
what brand is that guitar?
@TheDrumminMan08
@TheDrumminMan08 13 жыл бұрын
@summitthescale You're ProgJazzMath on UG right? Haha small world!
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