I Played a Nashville Bar Gig (Without Learning The Set...)

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

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[@edmundhenderson6559]

I have been around musicians all my adult life, and I'm 68 now. If there is one thing I've noticed it is that if you can't get up and play when you're not good enough, then you won't ever be able to get up on stage. Because no one is ever totally happy with how they play. The joy of being on stage has to overwhelm any feeling of disappointment or embarrassment in your playing. Anyway, I'm sure you will be fine. Great to see you up there.

[@1man1guitarletsgo]

That's a great comment! I have no hesitation in getting up on stage, often with no rehearsal. Where I've been hired as a dep guitarist, however, it's important to learn the most important riffs properly. Even then, there's no surprise if I make a few mistakes, but 99% of the time, no one notices.

[@Andygee302]

More of this Ross. I’m living vicariously through you 👏

[@W1LLi4m_]

Great advice that applies to many things in life.

[@JiMMY-my1ds]

If it all goes to shit in Nashville, move to Austin. Or NOLA!!

[@GrenOulio]

Same goes for stripping

[@petersmulders8413]

Wow, what a courageous thing to do. I would be scared shitless playing with Nashville musicians like that.. Hats off to you 🎸 Good luck man!! Greetz, Peter

[@WaylonMcPhersonGuitar]

Geezzzz! On that sort of gig, imagine how much you will grow musically in a super short amount of time. Very cool!

[@billybob-b7t]

Cutting your teeth in Nashville has to be great for a aspiring musician!

[@tomcoryell]

Hey Ross, I’m an old dog. Your advice is spot on! Have fun, but take care of your physical and mental health. It’s how you make it to be an old dog.

[@morganst.pierre]

Notta one mention of having a good ear!?

[@tomcoryell]

@@morganst.pierre Yes, that’s definitely needed.

[@chriswake5214]

Ross im sure you did great, I am in a Southern Rock/Country cover band named BarnBurner here in Jacksonville FL, and mistakes will happen, requests will be asked all night long. We play through it all and keep having fun. I am the lead guitarist as well and having practiced my visualization and improvisation saved me more than learning any one song. You're awesome my dude! Love this video!

[@Havanacuba1985]

Really enjoy your gigging experience in Nashville videos, look forward to more .

[@GraemeCampbellMusic]

Brilliant advice Ross. I play solo covers gigs here in Scotland and lots of the same stuff applies. Also really appreciate what you said about using the Nashville system and learning your keys. As I'm singing as well as playing , to avoid voice strain I've had to transpose a lot. the CAGED stuff comes in really handy too. Plus the great thing about Scottish pub goers is that they'll soon let you know whether you are any good or not :)

[@joemccarthy641]

Thank you Ross. It's great to continue watching you grow as a guitarist. Best of luck in Nashville.

[@AndersMcTee]

I played a large music festival a few weeks ago and was nailed on the whole hour. I spent 3 days on the run up playing the whole set twice per day. I Played a pub gig this weekend and barely got through a single song without a mistake. I fell Into the trap of thinking “it’s just a pub, no one cares” so I didn’t really bother to brush up on stuff. I Came away feeling terrible. It’s reminded me to give it 100% Everytime you play live.

[@timstaffell]

SUCH an interesting video. I could never do what you did, because I don't have the chops, I'm too old, and I would rather just play my own material - but I salute you for having the balls to dive in like that. Top Man!

[@etobicokeguitarschool]

I just came back from a vacation in Nashville in late July/early August and checked out the Broadway scene for a couple nights (I wonder if I saw you there! So many people it was honestly overwhelming), and I can absolutely attest to all of the things you're saying here. The fact that a request can be almost anything (aside from obscure metal) is enough to make it a super high pressure environment, but I didn't know these guys were performing for 4+ hours at a time and having to change keys frequently to preserve the singer's voice (which in itself is a massive feat to keep it going for that long!). Hearing you talk about it all makes sense. I was pretty humbled at the players' ability to ad-lib and improvise around each of the solos, which is something I need to improve at (too much of what I play is "rehearsed"), but this just amplifies it all. Granted, I have no ambitions to join the Nashville scene since it's stylistically not my cup of tea, but still - MASSIVE respect to the guys on stage killing it every night.

[@jasonlaurin2474]

Thanks for sharing! It’s very inspiring to hear accomplished guitarist speaking humbly about being challenged and stating regardless of their skill level, still admit that work always needs to be done to get better. ❤

[@mjmason75]

Love the honest and transparency on this! You have the type of personality I like to play with.

[@1970Richiez]

Yea man this is awesome.... I love playing live and glad I finally did... it helped my playing so much. Would love to see more videos on your career Thanks

[@adamkrauss303]

Thanks for this Ross. Been following you for a long while and excited to hear about this next chapter of yours. This video was so concisely presented, as is the case of much of your content. I would absolutely love for you to continue presenting a series on your adventures as a Nashville musician!!! I am a life long NY resident and always have been grateful for the diverse and abundant live music opportunities it presents, both as a player and listener. My older son (also a huge live music lover and guitarist) moved to Tuscaloosa, AL a few years ago (now is in Ann Arbor), and after experiencing Nashville, could not wait to get me there. I went for first time a couple years ago and wow, as you describe, the cacophony of live music emanating from everywhere, while walking down Broadway was like nothing I had experienced before. Of course popping in to Carter Vintage and Gibson Garage was a mouth watering experience. My wife joked about putting spending limit on the credit cards as I sent photos/videos of the next guitar that was speaking to me. Best of luck and so looking forward to you taking us along for the ride.

[@joaniepeters2565]

Also I like that advice, “go be friends with people” that’s the best musical advice I’ve ever heard to get a gig

[@_RLP]

Beem following your channel sonce the begining and it's great to see how far you've come. Thansk for sharing all this with us, especially the journey to Nashville. Keep us posted on that, will you? Cheers!

[@bluescam1]

Great video. Thanks for the run down. I have two friends who play professionally in Nashville, but I have never asked them about the experience. Thanks for explaining in depth how some of it works.

[@merliphlan2]

Really nice to you to share your experience in Nashville! More videos like this would be great:) Great content as usual, keep going you're the best !

[@neiletherington9439]

Really enjoyed your video Ross , admire what you've done in moving out to Nashville, also working my way through your melodic soloing course along with bulletproof, definitely recommended for fretboard knowledge and navigation, thanks once again and good luck with your gigs etc.

[@user-sn3cs2hd8r]

Ross good post! Been to Nashville many times and often think it would be fantastic to live there for a year just for the experience. Already playing 4 hr gigs no breaks so thats not a problem but thinking on your feet like that is a little unnerving. Thanks for sharing.

[@moochasas]

Congratulations on your major step in the industry..... a series of vids showing the bands, the practice and mostly the stories would be awesome as I believe its the stories that people want to hear and see...... greetings from down under mate. stay safe

[@horsevinyl]

I wish you all the best for your career and future. Always loved your channel and your style. Doesn't get playing live music more and more a form of exploitation? I remember much better times. Anyhow, the experience you make will be priceless. You take the challenge, great, that was life is all about. When times get rough, i recall my Dad who was a construction worker. What a hard life he had. I'm blessed with a much easier life and i'm very grateful earning my living with playing guitar. Hope you're gonna make it.

[@Journey-of-1000-Miles]

Good for you! I envy your opportunity. Some people like building ships in a bottle, some people like doing puzzles and crosswords, and some people like playing songs they don’t know! I am proud of you and your brain.

[@detect7]

Ross, great insight into the life of a working muscian. I remember when you first started on youtube as a youngster and I was just starting to play but was having problems due to having broken several fingers over many years playing rugby. All the best for the future from a fellow Scotsman, living in Canada. Oh and I must get to Nashville it looks awesome.

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

Thank you!

[@olivierseguin1118]

Thanks for sharing and your honesty! I can imagine that it's a tough business, but it's your dream and I'm sure that you're properly armed for this kind of challenge. Keep on rolling👍

[@hearpalhere]

Great to hear you are settling in so well Ross, I wish you continued success! Rock on!

[@jharrismsu]

That might be the best guitar video ever! I have no desire to be a professional musician, but I could understand everything you said, and to see a guy like you be so humble shows how difficult that life is, if that's where you want to go. Good luck, and again................best video ever!

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

Thanks!

[@richjohnson8261]

Congrats on the move to Nashville and entrance onto the live scene! That's awesome and well deserved

[@RJ_HTx]

Overthinking kills joy. I used to be like that, one thing that helped me tremendously was to play/jam with a guitar player above my level and to practice a lot more. Also when I changed my thinking, my playing changed. I would listen to a song and I would tell myself that I would not be able to play that. Basically negative thinking, now I listen to a song and I know that it is just a matter of time before I can play it. If I have any negative thoughts I go for a run, followed by a cold shower then I dive into guitar learning mode. First time I covered for a pro musician was nerve racking, now I became a hired gun for local bands in my town. I still get nerves but I don’t let mistakes ruin my night anymore. Mind you I am not a pro musician just a guitar enthusiast.

[@trinity95624]

Great post. Thank you.

[@haroldbelfast]

If you're a hired gun, you're a pro musician, even if it's part-time. Great post btw!

[@claudehopper9813]

Really enjoyed your candid account of playing on Broadway . I watch a lot of Nashville guitarist and seems paying your dues on Broadway is a merit badge .

[@samroberts2066]

Really enjoyed the complete honesty and reflections in this video. Super interesting to know how it all operates on Broadway.

[@MarcusYensen]

Welcome to America. I’ve been subscribed to your channel for a long time. Wishing you a stress free musical journey in Nashville friend.

[@B9ashtima]

I took your course on Melodic soloing and it has benefited me very much, I was always asking myself how can I play more melodically because I was always playing around with scales while playing along with backing tracks and thats what it sounded like... Like playing with scales... Now I have opened up A LOT at a musician and am planning a before and after video of what I learned... Because seriously I leveled up for sure.

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

That's great to hear!

[@trinity95624]

Insightful video. Well done, brother. Good to see you jumping off of cliffs, and willing to share it with us!

[@clumhain]

You needed the challenge i reckon, great to see you doing well ! I know you will go on to great things, congrats!

[@RodCat_Guitar]

Great to hear about your experience, good for you. Guthrie Trapp and Tom Buk have talked at length about getting your foot in the door in Nashville and they say it's not that easy, that you need to to be on the top of your game, be a good hang, and be prepared to do the real dog gigs. I think you're making it sound easier than it really is.

[@weps2097]

This is a great video. I have zero ambitions of playing in Nashville, I'm old and happy sitting in NC. Please do a series on your gigs, etc., I think a lot of people will get something out of them. The Nashville numbering system definitely has my interest, I've watched many videos on it from my favorite session guys but I'm missing something. Anyway, good job, Ross. Your videos and courses are awesome.

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

Thank you!

[@8MinuteAxe]

Hey Ross. Congrats on your successful move to Nashville and in seeing your dreams become a reality. You deserve a ton of credit for getting out of your comfort zone and challenging yourself personally and professionally. I've made my living as a guitar player for most of the last 25 years and but even with over 1000 gigs of experience I know that I don't have the chops (or courage) to do what you did...and I live in Atlanta! I spend a decent amount of time in Nashville. Next time I'm in town I hope I get the opportunity to see you in action. I wish you all the best. Mark

[@bruunm1975]

As I have said before. The best thing I did was your Fretboard course volume 1. It’s exactly like you said. I play covers and we get requests. Often of country songs I never heard (country side Australia pub gigs). It’s been life changing to me. I find myself using it in solos etc etc. thanks Ross.

[@stevemiell4555]

Just found your channel...loved this! Subscribed and the best of luck, looks so exciting & challenging.

[@29Granty]

Really interesting, Ross. How it is being a real musician! Definitely do more of these.

[@ronfangio]

Hey Ross - Great to see you having success in Nashville and enjoying life as a professional guitarist. Good advice on learning the Nashville number system and not letting mistakes drag you down. I'm on Module 2 of Melodic Soloing With Triads. In my humble opinion, it has to be the best course on fretboard visualization by learning triads to hit the "money notes" and then using the associated scale(s) to connect the triads. This combination plus your music theory insights are producing "a-ha moments" in each lesson. Appreciate the live gigging advice... keep it coming. Also, please continue to share licks, riffs and solos. 🎸🎸🎸

[@DamonWoodGuitarLessons]

Great video! Best of luck to you in Nashville and beyond.

[@cece-qu6on]

ciao Ross non ti sottovalutare,sei un chitarrista fenomenale e un maestro stupendo,il tocco,il gusto e il cuore che hai nel suonare io l'ho sentito a pochi e tu sei uno di quelli!!😍

[@cooghoublaga7555]

I take my hat off to you, good for you ! a courageous move, i hope and feel sure you will reap the benefits from this unique experience, good luck to you !

[@kingslaphappy1533]

Great vid Ross, you really nailed it. Only thing I can think of is start entering all those songs that weren’t on the set list into your Ipad/phone and when you get a request you do a super quick search on stage and bring it up. I get that that might mean having notation for maybe 300+ songs but once you have them in your Nashville notation form, it will really take the stress out. Subscribed!

[@davidsechrest6994]

Great stuff Ross, love to see more like it! I've been following you since I got your Blues course which I highly recommend.

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

Thank you 🙏

[@bedroomrockstudios408]

Excellent video Ross, from a real musician, not a tuber only. Not to worry about plethora of country songs, there are a lot of one hit wonders now a days in country. I only learned the classics Waylon, Willie, Johnny. Morgan who...lol

[@craigpetterson3962]

Great to hear how you are getting on Ross. Well done.

[@williamwoerner9938]

As someone who plays music, I really appreciate the information provided in this video!!!

[@Jeff-0523]

I also play in Nashville, regular mid to late afternoon’s on Broadway. The other issue in Nashville is that everyone plays great music. I mean everyone! The talent around here is crazy good! Keep at it!

[@Ronnierayv]

Love it Ross! Can you post some video of you playing live?

[@nikgiengermakesmusic]

I've lived in nashville for four years now and even as a musician, getting a broadway gig is something i have no desire to do. Hats off to you for doing the dang thing. I still work in music full time, just producing and writing with artists around town. I see a wild myles throughout this video too. Love him, such a good dude

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

Myles is the man!

[@adammusic1124]

Congrats on making the move, I'm so happy you're embracing country music so you can teach us country lovers more Nashville style country playing secrets... Look up Guthrie Trapp if you can while you're there, he's an absolutely awesome country guitarist to hang out with if you can, enjoy mate 🙂

[@rgc_37]

Love it. No better baptism of fire than a Nashville bar gig. I saw a friend's show there last year and my friend on guitar really needed to pee so called me up for a tune. Thankfully it was one I knew! Have thought about the move myself. One day...!

[@masonbonnevie1062]

Hi Ross, I started playing guitar when I was a sophomore in the early "70's. But before that, I was actually playing a mandolin in our school "Rondalla" in the mid '60's. My elder brother was on the guitar. He eventually moved on to other interests and I inherited his guitar. I taught myself using chord books and never had a professional teacher. I am now in my late 60's and retired and have more time to get more serious with my guitar playing, which I had to put on hold when I started a family. I also want to thank you for your advice which served as an eye opener. More power to you!!

[@westinvines9763]

Your biggest critic is yourself, every time. To leave your own country, switch genres, and adapt to different atmospheres, man not many people do that! Hats off to you!

[@Gbhbbgvsbnjhhdchhb]

Amazing podcast! Love to see more of your experiences over there please

[@guydouglas6094]

That was very good - an open and honest story of your music journey. Going from Scotland to Nashville, holy hell .... what were you thinking! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrAllenRiley]

Good job on your video and on your assessment of the Broadway scene in Nashville. There's a lot more besides Broadway happening in this city though and I hope as time goes on you get to move out further into the music scene. I'm sure by now you've at least talked about or thought about what happens in the "studio" environment. It's very inspiring if you love a good challenge, but your improvisational skills can be a great help in adapting your playing to the studio scene. You also may want to take a good look at the songwriting side of it, I really appreciate what you shared and your accurate and positive delivery in your video. I hope you keep encouraged to continue this as I'm sure a lot of people can benefit. You are valued.

[@ricopaxton]

What a great insight, thx man! Love to see you, living your dream! Much ❤

[@t8br00k36]

Fair play mate. I once joined a wedding band in Kerry playing bass and had to learn a two hour set in a couple of weeks. It was daunting. I winged it!

[@dsholt]

Visited Nashville for the first time a few months ago...that place is overwhelming. And that's just as a music fan, not a musician. Best of luck to you!

[@ricklandis447]

Welcome to America man! We are glad to have you

[@joehuffman1847]

Loved hearing this experience man. Keep em coming!

[@asnipa]

Yes! More videos like this. Massive respect!

[@alexandermilne5585]

It’s well done and good luck with your mission.

[@danielgalanti2166]

I find gigging videos interesting. I gig in two bands in Alaska and I play a lot. I wonder what it's like in other cities, especially Nashville and Austin. Great video, it sounds humbling but it very much reminds me of my first gigs up here. I was in a band that never had a set list and the singer just calls songs and then starts asking what the patrons want to hear. Even though Alaska is up North " the Valley" (Wasilla) thinks theyre below the Mason Dixon line, line dancing is Huge. I also played in a duo with a cat who literally had thousands of songs backing tracks in his computer which were organized by style of dance. We played for dance groups and then would finish out the night taking requests. "can you play a Bachata ect ect. Improvisation is my strongest skill and I got really good at just saying "what key"......go. I've learned hundreds of songs since moving to Anchorage 11 years ago. Coming from Buffalo NY where I primarily played blues and classic rock it was a shock to the system and I did play in a lot of blues bands up here. However. it took me years to shake off the rep that I was only a blues player. again, I found this video very interesting because I do wonder what would happen if I moved to the music city. So for me what I'm hearing, learn songs, learn songs, learn more songs. I'm already comfortable with what else you described. Good job and that move took balls.

[@jeffdehn387]

Ross, just bought a place in Nashville to spend a good part of the year there. Love to hear your experiences and let us know where you are playing.

[@jaredleeguitar]

Great video man! I just moved to Nashville literally a week ago and I'm definitely hoping to play gigs on Broadway. This was great insight - thank you!!

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

Thanks!

[@joestrobe5318]

Welcome to town, man! Playing on Lower Broad is a wild ride.

[@АлексейС-ы3з]

Great vid! Looking forward to more Nashville music scene observations. Cheers!

[@eichaan]

Great video. Congratulations on your courageous endeavor, and good luck!

[@bobnewiss1055]

Scotland's loss, Broadway Gain! Your experience reminds me of the times I used to stand in for absent guitarists in the south of England with very little time to learn songs or simply busk on the night. My "idiot" notes were written on paper (we are talking '90's) as Tonic, dominant, subdominant, Rel min....etc. The number system is far more simpler - this is the first time I've come across it. I was lucky enough to have a basic understanding of music theory that helped me and would recommend to anybody to invest in your excellent guitar courses. Very best of luck over the pond, Ross! 👍👍

[@ChrisTibaldiDrums]

Good lord, 4 hours straight with no break. What an insane system. The musicians need to band together and put a stop to it. A 15/20 minute break in the middle of the gig is more than reasonable.

[@ChrisM541]

Totally agree. Forcing the singer, especially, to play 4 hours straight, day in day out, is bad for music as an Art. Unfortunately, there are clearly enough bands that accept this. The authorities could do more to protect band members.

[@markmailloux4472]

I don't disagree with you on that Chris. I play local gigs at home and we do four hours WITH a break which I think is too long but I feel like the reason for no break is that people will get up and leave, particularly in off peak times. If they can come up with a way to keep people there other than piped in music, that would be the key.

[@drumbeater0]

Great take on what's necessary for bar gigs in Nashville nowadays. As someone who worked on Broadway in the early 2000s a lot of the things you mentioned are definitely advantages of the new generation of players i.e. Digitech Drop for detuning, iPad for charts, dual guitars to fit the setlist, etc. A lot has changed in that scene since then so I won't try to reminisce or detract from your experience. Good on you for doing the dangerous work and trying to make drunks appreciate live, no-tracks music!

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

That's a very good point. It would take so much more prep time to do it without the tech we have today.

[@tonyludwig434]

Ross, currently going through both courses (Beyond Pentatonic Blues & Melodic Soloing w/Triads) if some of your future videos you show how knowing the progression but not the song how you used techniques (by example - show & tell) described in the courses. Great stuff!

[@keithlogan3212]

Great video Ross thanks. Can you do a video showing the gear you use for live work? Cheers from Scotland

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

Thanks! I can indeed

[@paulmason5977]

Great video, really interesting. Scary as well. Congrats on getting out there and making it happen. Amazing achievement.

[@hoopanthology]

It happens to everyone not just those types of gigs. I've seen world class 0.00001% players make mistakes live. You're good, man :D

[@sidewaysrain7609]

I have been playing professionally for 35 years. Play weekend at the fiddle and steel guitar bar in the early 2000s.. Though you know the crowd rarely ever knows if you make a mistake. Just don't stop! (Especially a drummer or a bass player!) "If you're not making mistakes you're not trying hard enough!' -Don Cherry (on improvisation)

[@jezmez68]

Holy crap! I never knew about those Nashville charts. Would be kind of fun to work that part of my brain to figure out how to that.

[@richardmcpike]

Hang in Ross it’s gonna take a 5 year go to get established and you sound like a good humble learner - you will make it - rooting for you from Ayr 👍🤞

[@stephendudley7103]

Great video Ross! Really interesting insight. Hope you're settled and enjoying your new life out west 👌 keep up the top work and smashing the gym!

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

Thank you!

[@3004benj]

very interesting video!! thanks a lot for sharing your experience, I'd love to hear more in the future. Good luck! and congratulations, because you need to be brave to challenge yourself like this

[@ramzamboguitars]

This is excellent info and advice. Thank you so much.

[@Jojo-bm4tb]

i have a similar pedal i bought in istanbul like 10 years ago. can't imagine my life as a guitarist without it. still using it to this day.

[@frankgreco]

Nice video Ross. Glad to see you are progressing on your journey there.

[@gauravbalimusic]

Hang in there, man! I did 7 years in Nashville and moved back home at the end of 2022 to teach. First few gigs there can be terrifying…you actually outlined exactly why I left: it’s a LOT of work for the pay you get... Best of luck!

[@BrettSmithDaniels]

Overall, for a seasoned professional with a good ear - these don’t sound like bad gigs. I’ve been doing similar gigs in Canada for nearly 7 years. I had been considering Los Angeles as a future base but Nashville seems to be a more realistic place to earn a full time living provided you’ve got the goods playing wise. Would you say this is correct?

[@tymanngruter1808]

This is loving music, loving guitars and go all in! 🥳

[@deansizemore17]

Welcome to town man! Great video.

[@RossCampbellGuitarist]

Thanks!

[@HAMMERHEAD-g3h]

I hope you're enjoying Nashville. I got invited down there when I was younger but declined. If you love music it's the place to be but the chances of making it big are slim to none as I'm sure you figured it out. There's so many great musicians out. The band that invited me down there ended up being the house band at Tootsie's.

[@markh6384]

Really interesting video Ross. Gig situation sounds pretty terrifying, good luck to you!

[@hybrydsanity5857]

very interesting I visited in 2023 for the first time .I would have to learn a lot about almost of the standard chord progressions to even think about that but I'm mostly into playing Originals to begin with but you answered some questions I had when I went there and watched,I had a lot of fun and will go back .hopefully fairly soon .The networking aspect of it would be the easiest for me when ever i liked a particular musician I would speak to them after the show or in a break most of them were friendly and receptive also thankful of compliments for good work.

[@enricob2712]

Love this! As a matter of fact I'm a big fan of your content/courses and I'll be in Nashville next week. Any gigs planned or any advise on the best bars for good quality blues/rock live music? (not country) :)

[@13thAMG]

I did indeed wonder how you'd go with all those factors on that scene. Nashville is an exciting opportunity but brutal. I've got A list pals that live there but they tour the world, so they don't have to do the Broadway scene (obviously). I'm so proud of you, pal. A Scot making his way in Nashville. Love it! 😀 I just don't wanna see you Boot Scootin' or wearing a ten gallon Cowboy hat anytime soon. Ha ha ha. 🤣🤣🤣 You stay safe over there, ok pal? 😉 "They say the neon lights are bright on Broadway They say there's always magic in the air But when you're walking down that street And you ain't had enough to eat The glitter rubs right off and you're nowhere" - George Benson. 😊

[@johnw5734]

I know that feeling of being up there and not knowing the song. Or being a blues/rock player finding yourself in a country gig. Do I want to see and hear more about you going through that situation, it would make me uncomfortable but I guess that's the reality. I wish I knew some of what you know about playing. More power to you, Ross.