Dean Park Station Video 67 - December 2015 Update

[@trainmanbob]

Great video as always Dave. Inter City 125 for me for the first run. Just a little aside regarding pulling the track together on the fishplates. I did this once and the track pins didn't hold resulting in a drive to the hospital with a length of track sticking from my thumb joint to the bone in the lower arm. 15 stitches later.!!!!....and 30 years on the scar is still there. Cheers, Bob

[@MrRockmuso]

Hi Dave, wonderful layout and superb workmanship. My vote for the first run goes to A4 Union of South Africa. Thanks for taking the time to make a superb series of videos.

[@DeanPark]

+MrRockmuso Hi, thanks and my pleasure. Your vote has been counted! ;-) Dave

[@howarth004]

Union of South Africa ....always a good test with a steam Loco ....coming along nicely there .

[@PureWhitePictures]

Great video, and layout looks fantastic, and i am learning lots by watching all your videos, looking forward to the videos that are in front of me.

[@jackbrown2830]

Hi Dave many thanks for your quick reply that sounds good to me happy days

[@percomotion]

Your doing a much better job of super elevation than I did Dave but didn't know about the foam when I did mine three years ago. Look forward to next instalment. Kev

[@EverardJunction]

Looking good Dave. The upper section is very smart, nice carpentry too. My vote for the first loco would be a scotrail 47 on a push pull rake or one of your HSTs since the layout is set in Scotland. Hope it runs ok! Cheers

[@DeanPark]

+EverardJunction Hi Richard, thanks for your vote....the A4 60009 and HST are front runners, but the 47 is coming up on the outside!!Yeah I am pleased with the curve on upper loop. I have tested it thoroughly but not yet allowed myself to run a train all the way around.Cheers.Dave

[@Castlebridge-00]

Dave, another interesting and informative video. A few years ago I saw a tip for the banking (or camber) of the track with matchsticks under the outer rail, but your method looks better. For me, the majestic A4 Union of South Africa. It has design, power, grace and movement.Barry. Devon.

[@DeanPark]

+OBowner Hi, cheers Barry, I will add your vote to my list. Cheers. Dave

[@DudleyCentral]

Brilliant stuff as always, those curves look ace! I'm gonna vote for the swallow class 47. cheers, Joe

[@him481]

Cracking video Dave really getting there now thanks for all the tips and entertainment keep it up.

[@oceancity2006]

Happy Christmas from Ocean City - looking forward to 2016. Regards Robert

[@CHESEABUN]

Nice gentle realistic curves there! Will look good when finished.

[@DeanPark]

+BALLAN PARKWAY Hi, yeah I hope so! Dave

[@GaryGMW]

HST for me.The layout is looking great.Well done.

[@AndyHudson-ModelRailwayBuilds]

Think you will guess my choice but HST blue/grey, love the big sweeping curves on the upper level can't wait to see loco's on all 4 tracks later this month Andy

[@DeanPark]

+Andy Hudson Ok Andy, your vote is counted lol. Dave

[@nigelcarter9503]

Very tech Dave. Brilliantly worked out.

[@matthewsnowdenshunterguy3352]

Looking rather impressive now!

[@kirbyparkwest4392]

All good info and very helpful Dave. It's got to be the Deltic and Mk1 coaches for the first run. Cheers. James.

[@johnmorrow9978]

You are coming on really well now Dave, the track layout looks good and once again very well thought out as usual, I think for me the HST would look good on the upper track especially if you could place you camera at the curves then we could get a good view of the tilt as it goes round, but as you say it all depends on the vote but whichever model is chosen it will still look good, maybe perhaps if you manage to mount your camera on to a flat wagon as it is going round i think that the view would be brilliant.....just a thought, looking forward to that particular video.

[@DeanPark]

+John Morrow Cheers John. Your vote has been counted. Dave

[@GregPalmer1000]

Great idea on the super elevation to have a transition just like the real thing, nice sweeping curves 2.

[@DeanPark]

+Greg Palmer Thanks Greg, glad you like. Any preference on what loco you want to see 'open' the upper loop? Dave

[@GregPalmer1000]

+DaveClass47 Its got to be the Deltic cheers Greg

[@garyhodge7861]

Another great update Dave. My vote has to be the HST as this is the train that got me back into modelling. Just a thought; as you have 2 tracks you could test with the 2 most popular locomotives.

[@DeanPark]

+Gary Hodge Hi....Thanks for your vote. A popular choice, more popular vote than I thought it would be to be honest! Both lines will be officially 'opened'. By two locos. So I will have the winner of the vote going first, then the runner up vote going around too. I will show a selection on the top level in the next video, but one of them has to be first!! lol. Dave

[@SimonLivertonCentral]

Hi Dave, unbelievable skills, I can only hope my layout is half as good as yours when I get back to it. Just waiting for a joiner to let me know when he can complete the extension to the baseboard...Simon

[@DeanPark]

+Liverton -Simon Thanks Simon, really glad you like it. I'm sure yours will be to a equal standard...all it takes is time, thought and more time, oh and some pocket money lol Cheers. Dave

[@turnout999]

Brilliant as usual, Happy Xmas from Maryville Junction 😎🚒🚒

[@DeanPark]

+turnout999 Hi Merry Christmas. Any preference on which of my locos opens the upper loop? Dave

[@mrweaverman1]

hi dave yet another cracking video, I learn something new every itme track setter is a must and the way you pin your track is very sensible approachcheersmick

[@DeanPark]

+mrweaverman1 Cheers, glad you found it useful. Dave

[@sub39h]

Flying Scotsman - surely that's the most appropriate in an episode in which you're talking about super elevation!

[@DeanPark]

+sub39h Vote counted lol. Cheers. Dave

[@ReyoNeutra]

It has to be an A4! :D. Looking great Dave! Can't wait to see more!

[@DeanPark]

+James Cook Cheers...the A4 seems to be racing ahead, along with the HST! Dave

[@elsfordtown8058]

looks brilliant what you've been doing Dave thanks. My vote is Union of South Africa!! Thanks again

[@DeanPark]

+Elsford Town Hi, my pleasure. A4 vote counted. I better start her fire...think she'll need to build up some steam very soon! Dave

[@bluemountainsmodelrailproj2589]

Nice work Dave! I have just got my baseboard set up, and have already got plans to expand. I should have some footage up soon, would love some feedback and any ideas that you might have. Thanks for sharing this. Cheers Andy

[@stewartfraser3506]

Hi Dave, great video. Be really good to see the Union of South Africa on the upper level.

[@DeanPark]

+Stewart Fraser Hi, cheers for that, and your vote. Dave

[@MichaelHenfrey]

Great update Dave, The flying scotsman get's my vote! Cheers

[@DeanPark]

+Michael Henfrey Cheers, I will add you vote to the tally! Dave

[@IceFerret2]

As a Science Fiction fan, I have to go with the Fire Fly. Great update.

[@bluemountainsmodelrailproj2589]

As for which locomotive to run, get the deltic clagging up the top level

[@DeanPark]

+BlueMountainsModelRailProject Yeah!....the first vote for KOYLI! Thanks. Dave

[@p16trains3]

Great vid Dave, Union of South Africa for me!!

[@sparky107107]

nice to see it all joined together , super elevation , do you think it really helps us as molders , , , i doing easy track so that's why i ask ,, seems it going to be a bit harder to do with this stuff

[@DeanPark]

+sparky107107 Its not essential, but I just wanted to try it to give a angled track at the corners. Its very slight, so the trains dont lean too much and fall over. Dave

[@JamesStJunction00]

Nice video Dave with the track laying tips. What to run?? Really not sure, it should be the HST for the curves but as your channel is named DaveClass47 i am voting for the class 47 Charles Rennie Mackintosh. Steve

[@t147han]

cut a piece of ply with your curve on it ,sit it on your rails,and your jigsaw can sit on it.to cut your curve,saves moving your track.

[@bus131]

A4 for the first train along the top level. Was it not Union of South Africa that was the first along the new borders railway?

[@DeanPark]

+Roberto Riccioni Hi yeah it was....the A4 is the front runner along with the HST just now. You'll see it opened soon! Cheers. Dave

[@delticsarebest]

most times I would pick a deltic or a a4/a3 but this time I think the hst would be my pick around them curves

[@alanmurphy4931]

Coming along nicely, steam loco's can be challenged on inclines, I would like to see either the A4 or the Inter City HST........Al

[@jackbrown2830]

Good update Dave my vote would be for the class 47 cheers jack.

[@ScottDowneywoundedbear]

Great progress on the upper level. I think I will vote for HST.Scott

[@DeanPark]

+Scott Downey Cool, cheers Scott.

[@MotoCrazy66]

Were you talking to me at 8:32, sir? I'm Phill, and i looked up with a start when you said that!

[@stuartallport7656]

my favourite video yet dave in the helpful section as I start the upper sections in the spring at waterloo station.hope you and the family have a great Christmas and the royal train pulled by the CRM has got to be my choice but I fear the HST will win handsdown. stu

[@DeanPark]

+Stuart Allport Hi, cheers Stu, really appreciate your feedback as always. Merry Christmas to you and I have registered your vote. Its tight just now, so we'll see who wins! I will run all of the trains listed, but it will be a fight to see who gets to do it first! Cheers. Dave

[@trainsontuesday]

Good video Dave, I hope it will be the A4 Union of South Africa. That's my vote.

[@DeanPark]

+David Atkins Cheers David.

[@SpiritandScience]

Super video, nice commentary as usual. .MERRY CHRISTMAS to you too. Is it just me or do others watching this wonder what you look like? Also wonder what got you into model railways. Once again, thanks for these inspiring/entertaining videos. regards Philip

[@robk.5366]

No.6 for me, Class 47 Scotrail Livery 'Charles Rennie Mackintosh' pulling the Royal Train!

[@DeanPark]

+Rob Keywood Cool, I'll notch up another for the Class 47! Dave

[@bennettj99]

Hi Dave, still playing catch up on the U Tube videos I've missed. One question, on the super elevated section, you mention the outer radius is 36 inches, what is the radius of the inner track?Yet another brilliant video, again with excellent tips and ideas. Many thanks for sharing. Kind regards. John

[@DeanPark]

+John Bennett Hi, its also 36", but because I have used flexi track it allows me to start the inner curve slightly earlier to keep the spacing between the tracks the same....I hope this makes sense?! Dave

[@davegower6919]

Great video Dave. The canting of the rails does make a huge difference and not done by many modelers so well done for doing it. As for which Loco to be first over the raised section I would go with the A3 'Flying Scotsman'. This will pay homage to your Scottish heritage and plus I hate diesels. What would be really good is to also have the A4 'Union of South Africa' going the other way. However I'm willing to concede to have a more modern motive power to celebrate the grand opening. As I don't do Christmas but I wish You and Yours all the very best for the Holiday and have a fantastic New Year. P.S. Have you found out who's been giving you the thumbs down?

[@DeanPark]

+Dave Gower Hi Dave, thanks for your vote. A considered response there! As for the disliker, no I aint. But they are just doing it for the sake of it, so I have ignored them. One day they might give me a reason! All the best to you are your loved ones in the new year.

[@tonysmith6985]

Hi , great update as usual . It ha to be Union of South Africa. Regards Tony Smith.

[@DeanPark]

+tony smith Cheers Tony, I will add your vote to the tally. Glad you enjoyed the update. Dave

[@ThePhosphater]

Looking good, I think you have done well. My vote is Class A 4 Union of South Africa with coaches.

[@DeanPark]

+John B cheers, I will add this vote to the A4 tally! Cheers. Dave

[@DunoonModelRailway]

Definitely Union of South Africa! Not sure if this is the right date, but here in Australia it is 12:09AM on the 14/12/2015

[@DeanPark]

+Dunoon Model Railway Hi, I am still in the final hours of the 13th....but as soon as the 15th is out of the way I will count the votes and get shooting the video! Dave

[@jackbrown2830]

Hi Dave, can I ask you about signals how do you know where to put which signal be it a 1- 2 -3 - or 4 aspect because I don't have a clue any info would be great thank you jack.

[@DeanPark]

+Jack Brown Hi Jack, I have mainly 3 aspect signals on the lower mainlines. I have just tried to space them out evenly, making sure they are in areas where you can see them, as they look cool.; Its just all down to personal judgement, space and location. I also copied some of the signal positions based on Edinburgh Waverley and adapted this for my station. Sorry, its not more scientific than that. I sure there are hard and fast rules on how they are positioned in real life though! Cheers. Dave

[@Jonny_____]

Lovely progress for me the first train has to either be A4 Union of South Africa or A3 flying Scotsman

[@DeanPark]

+Jonathan “Jonny” Eaves Hi, thanks for your vote. Dave

[@Cliffjumper24]

HST would be my vote. It's a uniform train and will show the sweeping curves and super-elevation to their best effect. No offence meant Dave, but I think you've demonstrated a lack of planning forethought here. It's best to plan where your track will go, then cut the wood, then lay track. You'd have been better off placing the plywood panels on the legs, using the tracksetta templates to draw your curves in pencil to figure out where the inside/outside boundries for the baseboards will go. Then, with it all penciled in, you can cut your wood, and lay your cork and track, super-elevated where neccesary. It doesn't really matter too much. It'll work out fine in the end. All the only real loss is the time and effort it took to pin down track and lift wood for cutting, reinstalling the track, and nailing it back down.

[@DeanPark]

+Cliffjumper24 Hi, we live and learn dont we? No offence taken whats so ever. I had planned it out using strips of paper cut at 36" curves, so knew it would work, but I wanted EXACTLY 40mm on each side of the tracks to accommodate the over head masts etc. I have achieved that accuracy by doing it the way I did, even if it wasn't the quickest way. But since when have I dont things a quick way?! lol Cheers. Dave

[@MotoCrazy66]

+DaveClass47 I reckon i would have done it your way too, so as to gauge exactly where the track would go. Unfortunately, i don't have space for a railway, hence watching you and Everard, Glebe Road, Graham Foulston, etc. Keep going!

[@DeanPark]

MotoCrazy66 Hi, thanks. I do like to work with as much accuracy as I can! Glad you liked. Cheers. Dave

[@kellimalcolmcurtis5958]

My vote would be the HST in blue & grey livery. As I said last time you need to watch BNSF Birdwood Sub" HO Scale update, Part 5. by Fishplate flim to help with the incline. Greg inclines are at 2 degree rise and without using the foam.What he uses is a cheap spirit level with a screw set at 2 degree. I hope it helps you to complete the section

[@adrianhayes6146]

Hi. please can you tell me who makes the track elevation foam inserts. many thanks, Adrian

[@DeanPark]

+Adrian Hayes Google Tillig super elevation - not easy to get a hold of since International Models ceased trading. Cheers. Dave

[@adrianhayes6146]

+DaveClass47 Many thanks for your information. Fantastic videos on a wonderful hobby, look forward to the next one. Happy Christmas

[@juygrs1]

looking good what size cork do you use cheers phil

[@DeanPark]

+phil holloway 1/8" on the mainlines.

[@bentompkinson4572]

Hi Dave. I have noticed that you use the track setters to gauge your curves when laying flexi track. I am brand new to flexi having never used it before. I have looked everywhere for a set of the track setters without success. Would you be able to tell me where you got them from? Thank you in advance. Ben

[@DeanPark]

+Ben Tompkinson Hi TRACKSETTA can be bought from most model shops, I got mine at Rail of Sheffield. Cheers. Dave

[@bentompkinson4572]

Thanks Dave. I'll have a look out next time I'm in my local shop. I hope you don't mind me asking another question. Where did you get you light signals from. I have trawled the internet but can't find any I like. I am looking to use the timer/sensor set up that you and many others have used. Thanks for now. Ben

[@DeanPark]

Hi, yeah no worries, these are CR Signals. You can buy these direct from that website or from heathcote electronics website. They are the most realistic ones I have come across. And they are easy to wire up with the Heathcote sensors boards.

[@garylewis1422]

great videos and update as always. my vote is for the flying Scotsmen.

[@DeanPark]

+Gary Lewis Hi Gary, thanks. Vote counted. Dave

[@steburge1]

Great work Dave! The Flying Scotsman please!....Merry Christmas And New Year looking forward to next years videos cheers..Steve

[@DeanPark]

+Steve Burgess Cheers Steve. Merry Christmas to you. Dave

[@DWCHARVEY]

hi dave, awesome stuff, a class 47 for me!

[@MrVinnyh]

Looks good Dave. The loco has to be the 47 (after all you are DaveClass47).

[@DeanPark]

+vince halls Hi, this is true! lol. I will add that to the vote! Cheers. Dave

[@andrewstenhouse7530]

hi dave great video yet again scotrail 47 gets my vote keep up the good work

[@DeanPark]

+Andrew Stenhouse cool, voted counted. Thanks. Dave

[@dwwojcik]

You should make a strawpoll for the locomotive voting.

[@philhoggart764]

HST for me , looking good

[@DeanPark]

+Phil Hoggart Cheers, the HST has a few early votes! But its tight. Dave

[@Philiamq]

Union of South Africa please Dave.. :) looking good!!

[@WDG13031]

I vote for the Hornby BR Blue/Grey HST.

[@DeanPark]

+Jeremiah Jefferson Bunyan cool, cheers.

[@adamormondroyd827]

My vote goes to Union of South Africa for no reason other than that A4s are my favourite!

[@DeanPark]

+Adam Ormondroyd They are fantastic locos aren't they, iconic! Dave

[@muckshifter]

'Flying Scotsman' 1 'Flying Scotsman' vote = 10 to anything else! :)

[@edmorris631]

The deltic has my vote

[@johnclass8794]

Great video as ever mate! Two idiot dislikers this time I see, I guess they haven't voted!!! Knobheads! Want to get back to mine but the garage is full of the new kitchen which is doing my head in!!!!! It's got to be the 47, CRM on the Royal Train. True to the layout and it seems only right the Queen should be the first to ride it 😉 Look forward to seeing the winner, Merry Christmas to you and yours 🎅🏻

[@DeanPark]

+John Class87 Hi, they might have voted!!....and then disliked it! lol. Merry Christmas. Dave.

[@Cheadleridgelanetmd]

I think 2 trains should run!! Union of South Africa one way flying Scotsman the other way

[@DeanPark]

+Steve Lindley Hi Steve, the way its going there may be a tie between the A4 and the HST, so I might do that! Dave

[@jshawsteam87]

union of South Africa for me with a rake of Mark ones

[@DeanPark]

+jshawsteam87 ok, your pushing 60009 up the competition leader board lol. Dave

[@lancastrian123]

I vote for the Union of South Africa, or any steam locomotive.

[@DeanPark]

+lancastrian123 Hi....ok thanks for your vote ;-) Dave

[@richardwilkinson7527]

it has to be a class 47. so I'm gonna say intercity fire fly

[@matthewwright3310]

daveclass47 do u have an email or sumthing i could contact u im just starting in the hobbie been to few model shops round manchester decided on trains an track layout i want but have few things need help with thank you very much

[@lesrishman9530]

its got to be a Scottish train ,so Charles rennie macintosh gets my vote .good video

[@mrbluenevertoleratehatred]

HST Blue & Grey

[@gingertom64]

HST for me please

[@kevinclass2015]

class 47 Charles Rennie Mackintosh.

[@mjsdecember1990]

I vote for the class 91

[@DeanPark]

+mjsdecember1990 lol, the over head masts are not up yet....so no electric traction until the new year on the upper level. ;-( Dave

[@RuudGerrevink]

HST !

[@matthewwright3310]

scotsman all the way

[@cnwtrains]

No5 a3

[@DeanPark]

+cnwtrains Cool, cheers. Dave

[@BladeRunner21577]

Track cant. Superelevation is an Americanism

[@DeanPark]

+BladeRunner21577 'You say Tomatoes I say TomAtoes!' Same difference lol. I actually have a few american subscribers, so they'll feel happy I have catered for them. Cheers. Dave

[@BladeRunner21577]

+DaveClass47 Fair enough Dave, Ive seen a few vids on here, all American, that call it that, but working on the railway for several years Ive only ever heard it called the tracks cant.

[@DeanPark]

BladeRunner21577 Hi, I agree it is canting in uk, and you being a railway man will no better than me. I call it banking of the curve as well, is that term used? I keep defaulting to super elevation as that is what it says on the packet ;-) Thanks for pointing that out though. I will try and remember next time I film it, but I cant promise I wont slip in to Americano! lol

[@BladeRunner21577]

+DaveClass47 tracks bank left or right. but banking can also refer to assisting motive power when helping a loaded train up a steep incline.

[@mrbluenevertoleratehatred]

HST Blue & Grey

[@DeanPark]

+Br Blue Hi, thanks. It will look good on the long sweeping curves! Dave