DEAR FFXIV DPS: The TOP 3 REAL Reasons Your Healer Hasn't Raised You

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Everyday Eorzean

Everyday Eorzean

Күн бұрын

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@syaojyn
@syaojyn Ай бұрын
Sometimes the dps are very eepy, and you pick them off the floor, but they are just too tired and end up back there again. You have to wait a moment bub, gotta do mechanics and heal the not dead members of the party for a moment.
@Duran8998
@Duran8998 Ай бұрын
Reasons it takes me so long to rez people: - Swiftcast is on cooldown - Glare is not on cooldown - You have 1-2 stacks of weakness already and you can't assist rez - Swiftcast is on cooldown - I need to keep myself alive - You aren't high enough priority [and its day 1 Jeuno] - There are only 2 non-healer classes in the game that can assist rez and there's a 90 percent chance you aren't one of them - You died far enough away to be in another Country and the rest of us are over here not dying - Take your backstep skill of your action bar - I swiftcasted Holy because it does more damage than you - Swiftcast is on cooldown - I rescued you and you still lunged back at the enemy and died - I'm silenced / stunned / disoriented / mind-controlled / etc.etc. - If I rez you now, you will just accept it immediately and die in an unavoidable mechanic for the 18th time - Swiftcast is on cooldown - I'm a freaking white mage and you all still managed to suck my mana dry - Thin Air is on cooldown - Swiftcast is on cooldown - If you are really asking me this question then I think you need to play healer a bit and figure it out - It's snowing on Mt. Fuji - My Swiftcast is on cooldown.
@IKMcGwee
@IKMcGwee Ай бұрын
Amen
@b1ngnx33
@b1ngnx33 Ай бұрын
DAMN!!!!!!
@pumpkingamebox
@pumpkingamebox 27 күн бұрын
I need to see like 4 bodies before I hard cast Rez.
@mindfighter1
@mindfighter1 2 ай бұрын
Also sometimes I don’t rez you because both of us healers accidentally chose to rez the same player and now we’re both down a swiftcast
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean 2 ай бұрын
Omg the number of times that happens. I would say that is like 75% of the wait.
@Fryulikebacon
@Fryulikebacon Ай бұрын
@@mindfighter1 straight up bullseye.
@b1ngnx33
@b1ngnx33 Ай бұрын
ALL THE TIME!!!!!
@Alte.Kameraden
@Alte.Kameraden Ай бұрын
Honestly why I wait a little bit. 😂
@Circuitman02
@Circuitman02 Ай бұрын
@@Alte.Kameradenbut then they wait a little bit, decide you aren’t gonna, then you both raise at once again. No winning
@Emulcool
@Emulcool 2 ай бұрын
Healer priority : -Myself -Tanks -The other healer (Scrolls below) -Red mages -Summonners ( Scrolls Way way below ) other dps. ( Some dps can buff the party so they have a sub priority like archers or dancers )
@lanah_tyra
@lanah_tyra 2 ай бұрын
Also if I have to decide between the dps who was 2nd on the aggro list so far and done everything perfectly but died now to something unavoidable or between the one who dies for the 5th time, guess who is priority?
@amahashadow
@amahashadow 2 ай бұрын
Actually (WHM main), I go with Myself, MT, healer 2, OT, red mage/summoners, dps and then dps which already have a death mark (unless it really was not your fault)
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
That's pretty much my go to. Healer 2 and OT change depending on circumstances.
@Princessofthedrk
@Princessofthedrk Ай бұрын
As a SMN I try to help healers where I can but I'm also bad with mechanics because I click my bar half the time and keyboard half the time. I usually run content with my bf who is SCH main and we play back to back. That way its easier for call outs (so I can try to pass a mechanic) and I can find out if he has someone or if someone has him on the rare chances he falls.
@lantearia
@lantearia Ай бұрын
​@Princessofthedrk Have you considered giving controller a try? It seems like doing a mix of click/kb/m might slow you down a lot, unless you have a gaming mouse, of course. I couldn't figure out a good way to play with kb/m that was comfortable for me, but expanded crossbars on controller opened a new door where I'm doing Savage.
@Threnan17
@Threnan17 Ай бұрын
If I’m dying frequently in a boss fight, I don’t mind the wait for a res. I’m not doing much dps anyway dying so much lol, but also gives me a chance to be a spectator for a minute and figure out mechanics without the stress of keeping myself alive
@tjitjan
@tjitjan 2 ай бұрын
I love to yell out when i can see everyone is busy and cant ress me .... DONT WORRY GUYS .. I GOT THE FLOOR AGGRO 😂 THE FLOOR WOUNT HURT YOU 😂
@InquisitorThomas
@InquisitorThomas 2 ай бұрын
And then it turns out that you’re in one of the boss fights where the floor is very much a hazard.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
@@InquisitorThomas LOL I was about to say. LIAR :( I've been hurt by the floor before.
@RaidenKaiser
@RaidenKaiser Ай бұрын
@@InquisitorThomas Or the boss moves scenes so your body falls into the chasm making you the new chasm guard.
@ChakatSilverstreak
@ChakatSilverstreak Ай бұрын
DRG here doing their job. 🫡
@xpainlessxyz
@xpainlessxyz Ай бұрын
Good one😂
@vermyfox8450
@vermyfox8450 Ай бұрын
The problem is I've been running into a lot of healers lately that only raise with swiftcast, or flat out don't rez at all. I usually heal, but when I'm at a non-exaggeration of 10+ in an instance, co-healer at 0 as they're damage spamming and maybe, just maybe, tossing out medica II... I can see where dps are coming from. Healer quality has honestly gone sour lately as few want to do it now that sustained damage and difficulty have begun to show up, and a few that do queue seem to be doing the old WoW "queue tank/heal to skip wait times" routine.
@etimun
@etimun 2 ай бұрын
I think my most recent, funny, "why havnt I been raised yet?" Moment was when I was leveling reaper a couple days ago and queued into Eden Leviathan. I ended up going down a little early in my accident because I didn't remember the fight and then. Proceeded to stay down for about half the fight Like I saw other dps (a caster of sorts) getting raised as well as a couple sprouts (one being the other healer) but my time was basically laying on the floor, giving people thumbs up, and watching my corpse fall when the platform I'm laying on was destroyed lmao I was literally down so long I got nervous and went into the chat like "hey I promise I'm not staying down to troll I literally havnt gotten a raise yet". Lo and behold just after the halfway mark of the boss, im rezed It was an interesting time
@Mr.Roboto_
@Mr.Roboto_ Ай бұрын
Meanwhile, I'm over here like: "What are you doing? Don't raise me. Rez the healers or the red mage! The alliance is going to die!"
@benjaminfast5496
@benjaminfast5496 Ай бұрын
This is why every player should try playing a healer so they understand all the work we're actually doing. We only play DPS Healers when the battle goes smoothly. Once things start to fall apart, we're working harder than everyone else. Another thing, sometimes if a lot of people go down, our MP gets low and we need to wait for it to fill up before we can raise again. They ain't cheap to just pop out one after another. It's so funny, because everything you said in this video seems so obvious; and yet, unless someone has played a healer, they'll never understand. I really liked this video! I've subbed! Thank you!
@AlexanderFrost
@AlexanderFrost 2 ай бұрын
As a Red Mage, can confirm. I spent half the battle getting my Black and White mana gauges to full so I can pummel the boss. I am NOT STOPPING THE PAIN TRAIN. Also as DPS that frequently goes down, especially during a fight I'm still learning, I'm fine being on the floor. Gives me a chance to catch up with the floor, ask how it's kids in other dungeons are doing over tea and cakes. The Floor has a life too, y'know.
@Sephirothwolf
@Sephirothwolf 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, although we can then burn three Vercure>Verraise immediately after so they at least get a good light show while they wait.
@lanah_tyra
@lanah_tyra 2 ай бұрын
Same goes for Bahamut. That bad boy waits for no one, not delaying Bahamut for anyone. I'm happy to raise after...
@Iceburn76
@Iceburn76 2 ай бұрын
F in the chat for Arcadion 1 floor.
@ExileTwilight
@ExileTwilight Ай бұрын
@@Iceburn76 It's okay, it likes it :)
@stevepowell491
@stevepowell491 Ай бұрын
Yup - if I'm in burst damage mode: You can wait on the floor until I'm finished. While I'm working on the gauge: I'll pop out some res's to help the healers out. Does mean my main reason for not res'ing if I'm not in the middle of dishing out some pain is: Not enough Mana (usually 'cause I've just res'd a bunch of the raid already). Next one is: You're out of range and I've boss mechanics to worry about. Last one is: Can't stop to do the prerequisit hit to get the insta-cast prep'd.
@KuroNoUsagi
@KuroNoUsagi 2 ай бұрын
I used to ask this same question until I finally unlocked Astrologian and started my healer journey, I feel bad for those who are dead but the truth is that if I or the tank dies we are going to wipe 😅. Those who ask this have never had a healer job because once you run aurum vale a couple times with people who dont eat the fruit and crystal tower with people dying to simple mechanics, suddenly that one pictomancer who keeps kissing the floor will have to wait till the end of the battle to have a rezz be sent their way 🤣. As an AST tho, I have to say that having lightspeed makes me not rethink so much if I want to rezz a DPS or not, and even if I have several attacks that do damage, I'll never do as much damage as a DPS while standing on a healer job. As a rule of thumb I have for myself: If I have time to DPS, I have time to rezz a DPS, if I dont have time to DPS, I dont have time to rezz a DPS.
@benjaminfast5496
@benjaminfast5496 Ай бұрын
Aurum Vale. 😵‍💫
@arisurec
@arisurec 2 ай бұрын
Me: "Why have you not raised me yet?" Healer: "YOU'RE ADOPTED!"
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
This made me cackle out loud.
@The_Lesser_Evil
@The_Lesser_Evil Ай бұрын
Guys, guys, hear me out. The lala died to a perfectly natural cause, trust me.
@davidyaconis7002
@davidyaconis7002 2 ай бұрын
Reason # 3... I'm Reason # 2... F@@@ing Reason # 1... BUSY!!!
@ek9750
@ek9750 2 ай бұрын
busy casting glare?.. or broil?
@dawk7
@dawk7 2 ай бұрын
@@ek9750 HEALING THE OTHER IDIOTS! QUICKCAST ON COOLDOWN!! BUSY DODGING DEATH!!! *STOP TANKING THE FLOORRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!*
@Kyrmana
@Kyrmana 2 ай бұрын
NO MP!
@dawk7
@dawk7 2 ай бұрын
@@Kyrmana THIN AIR? THIN PATIENCE BECAUSE THE TWO CHARGES ARE ON COOLDOWN ALREADY!
@Deltabolster
@Deltabolster Ай бұрын
@@dawk7 ive seen a dps who had a hotkey where he pointed out the swiftcast ability and with a message saying to heal them. Like they had a fucking macro for that and they died twice as a dps, i was also dps and barely took damage so clearly the guy wasnjust stupid.
@antwanfissure7596
@antwanfissure7596 2 ай бұрын
Honestly if more people knew that you're invulnerable to most attacks for a few seconds after being raised so long as you don't attack anything I would raise more people during high mechanic scenarios. As it stands people get raised, swing, then die.
@spetsu1
@spetsu1 2 ай бұрын
I main dps, and mess around with tank and healer, but it throws me off every time someone gets revived and then immediately dies because they didn't wait for the heal, especially when it's a lvl 100 raid or dungeon.
@darmorel549
@darmorel549 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it is mentioned nowhere that I seen. Not even on the raise spell itself. And it not like you can see the buff if you instantly swing, let alone read it.
@JohnDCrafton
@JohnDCrafton 2 ай бұрын
i get raised, wait out the invulnerability timer, and die to the next raidwide anyway
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
Yeah this will happen a lot unfortunately. Sometimes healers (myself included) will get you up and then realize we're tapped and just sadly watch you go down again.
@dragonriderabens9761
@dragonriderabens9761 Ай бұрын
I tend to wait until after the high mechanic scenario is over to accept the rez, personally
@FessyDKnight
@FessyDKnight Ай бұрын
Sometimes, I have to find your corpse when you get yeeted off the map in a place where I can't find you. Looking at you mr SAM can't dodge divebombs in UCOB.
@Phyrior
@Phyrior Ай бұрын
This is why Black Mage and Pictomancer need [Necromancy] and [Life Imitates Art]...
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
100%. Or some form of reraise item. I would LOVE for them to implement re-raise necklaces/pots or make phoenix feathers useable in more content.
@ExileTwilight
@ExileTwilight Ай бұрын
@@EverydayEorzean I think especially for Dungeons they should implement a party useable res that can be used once per boss fight (reset at wipe), just in case the healer gets smoked and your party doesn't have any resmages. Maybe make it inflict a damage down on the user or something, or take several seconds to cast. I dunno. That or remove resses from all dps, that would also balance it out :p (joking mostly)
@luna_theraider
@luna_theraider Ай бұрын
This just reminds me of this one time in P1N where I was a SMN. Both healers and a SAM died. Boss was at like 75-90% HP btw. I got both healers up but died to rez the last one. They left me dead the rest of the fight. The SAM kept dying and they kept saving him. Even dying to save that SAM. There were no other magic dps besides me. I really wonder what was going on in those healer’s heads.
@shampoobottle4565
@shampoobottle4565 2 ай бұрын
If i raise someone and they waste their trancendent just to die to a raidwide immediately - you gon be in timeout
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean 2 ай бұрын
lol. Right?! That should probably be a PSA.....
@Hedge_Knight_Gaming
@Hedge_Knight_Gaming Ай бұрын
I felt so bad for my healers on my Day 1 Jeuno run. I recently got a new computer and forgot to adjust my effects settings so the entire Alliance Raid was set to full. I ate so many raises because I literally could not see what the heck was going on between all the assorted explosions.
@Radintoriov
@Radintoriov Ай бұрын
I can recommend making two macros to toggle those settings: that way, you can quickly toggle how many explosions you see by just hitting a button instead of going through the settings menu. You can use either /battleeffect or /bfx followed by either self/party/others and then all/simple/off. So a possible macro would be /bfx party simple /bfx other simple
@Hedge_Knight_Gaming
@Hedge_Knight_Gaming Ай бұрын
@@Radintoriov Oh that's awesome, thank you!
@AethrusTheBicorn
@AethrusTheBicorn Ай бұрын
As a person who stared off as a ranged dps and then became a healer in heavensward and honestly I think that golden divine scroll of raise order just manifests in you after some time like you have become one with the gods of reviving and they bestow apon you the secrets of raising. Also there are those moments where some one just dies too much and you just feel either bad for that person or a bit of contempt and just throw you hands in the air and say "you know what just lie there for a second catch some Z's and let me get my my back". I know this is calling out my fc leader but there is a dungeon where a boss uses it's head as a hammer of sorts and it pushes you and you can fall off the map and I counted 14 times that my fc leader fell and they don't want to do dungeons without me since I'm the trusted and only healer of the fc at the time. Love this video and I agree with everything that is said here.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
Agreed, you with time and experience you definitely develop your own internal 'raise order'... that may or may not become jaded over a run XD.
@norightturn7047
@norightturn7047 Ай бұрын
I just assume that as a DPS if the healer doesn't heal me within a few seconds then that just means they personally hate me and then spend the rest of my night crying as I contemplate the cruelty of mankind.
@ozziethedivine
@ozziethedivine 2 ай бұрын
I think everyone should try every role, you quickly learn why things go down they way they do
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
YES!
@lanah_tyra
@lanah_tyra 2 ай бұрын
And this is why my raise macro is "Eos, you said you got this!" I swear I always have to raise because we had the understanding with my fairy that she will heal but she didn't... XD
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
lol cute!
@SuzakuBlitz
@SuzakuBlitz 2 ай бұрын
It's funny you bring up this topic today, lol. I actually did something stupid in Algaia today and fell off during Rhlagar trying to gap close on SGE during the knock back. My WHM healing partner just kept Glaring and Glaring and Glaring. I think they went on for like 8 or 10 GCDs before our RDM picked me up (the RDM got my commend for that at the end). It is a little aggravating to see them tunneling DPS but that's the nature of the beast at times too, so ah well. As for playing Res chicken, as the WHM in the WHM / SCH comp of my savage group, I typically prioritize Raises first because, THIN AIR is a nice thing and it's so much easier for WHM to conserve their MP versus SCH, lol - random throw back to your Thin Air discussion from before. I do enjoy all the different outfits and accessories you do have for your avatar as a random segway, lol.
@bPlusOne
@bPlusOne 2 ай бұрын
Possibly the WHM was intentionally waiting for the RDM to raise you - especially if their Swiftcast was down. It's far easier and efficient (for the entire party, no less) for the RDM to use a single dualcast to get you back up, than it is for the WHM to spend 8 seconds casting a rez. Sometimes the rez priority is on the RDM, but I get it, in most situations there won't be any voice chat to coordinate stuff like this, so people always assume the worst. 😥
@crazydoc0812
@crazydoc0812 Ай бұрын
Tank main here but also leveling up a couple melee dps and a white mage. I completely understand if it takes a while to raise me when I decide to spend some quality time with the floor. Healers have a lot to keep track of, and I’m still learning how to do that without being in a constant state of panic. Healer is still the most intimidating job for me.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
It's intimidating but it's also super rewarding. You'll get there! For me it was all about learning how much my heals actually heal for and then using them wisely.
@KiraAotsuki
@KiraAotsuki Ай бұрын
I admire the dedication to dragging your dead friend around on the journey as you enlighten the rest of the dps
@17Master
@17Master Ай бұрын
There are two things that everyone in XIV needs to know about Raises but the game never teaches in a meaningful way. 1. You do NOT have to accept a Raise immediately. In fact, you get 60 whole seconds to accept before the buff expires and Raise needs to be cast again. This means you can take a few seconds to see what it going on, determine if it's safe to get up, or are you raising right into more danger and putting pressure on healers to divert all their attention into healing you back to full so you don't instantly die again. 2. After getting up from a Raise, a player gains a buff called Transcendent. This gives 5 seconds of invulnerability, but expires as soon as the player performs any abilities or auto attacks. (VERY IMPORTANT: This buff is NOT granted to players revived by a Healer Limit Break). So, when you accept the Raise, instead of going right back into unga bunga, give your healers a chance to heal you up, especially if you chose to accept the Raise as raidwide damage is coming out. Healers can't actually heal you until the animation finishes playing out, and during that time they probably shift their attention to the other two/six people in the party, since they matter just as much as you do. So, unless you're a tank that needs to get aggro right now, let that 5s of LITERAL INVINCIBILITY do its thing. To address the glaring concern with both of my points, yes I am suggesting that DPS take a moment to chill out and not immediately go smashing buttons as soon as they are physically allowed to, which is borderline sacrilege. I get it. But counterpoint, what is the bigger DPS loss? Taking a few more seconds to be able to safely get up, or immediately dying again before getting anything meaningful out, then having to repeat the process of waiting for another Raise? And don't get me started on the new shiny Brink of Death debuff you earned.
@bargainbincatgirl6698
@bargainbincatgirl6698 2 ай бұрын
I won't rez ASAP because a lot of times the other healer beat me to it, losing my swiftcast, or I'm afraid that you or me is going to be hit by a mechanic or enemy as soon as i rez you. And the rez order usually is co-healer / tank... i usually not good enough to survive after a tank dies on me, even if I manage to pull the rez, so I don't really know what other priority exists after that.
@ginjabr3ad330
@ginjabr3ad330 Ай бұрын
Or, as I recently experienced, my black mages both decided to plop their key lines down within a millimeter of the boss arena's entrance, which placed them out of range of literally everyone else in the boss battle. So that means prioritizing running across half the arena just so I can be barely in range of any spell that might reach them.
@inkblooded1058
@inkblooded1058 Ай бұрын
As a Red Mage main, I can confirm; if the Rez Mage is needed, but I'm in my Glare rotation, I'm only stopping if it's a literal "Rez or Lose" situation.
@aerophage
@aerophage Ай бұрын
These are the reasons I haven't raised you, in order: 1. My swiftcast is on cooldown. 2. I'm busy keeping everyone else alive. 3. I don't have the mana. 4. I have charges of Glare IV to spend.
@arcanine_enjoyer
@arcanine_enjoyer 2 ай бұрын
As a SGE, but mostly DRK and PCT main, it's usually because my swiftcast is already busy raising someone else or I'm the RDM and I'm out of mana.
@Iceburn76
@Iceburn76 2 ай бұрын
This. Doublecast only removes the cast time, not the mana cost.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
Yeaaaaaaaah. I do love my Thin Air.
@MangoPanic
@MangoPanic Ай бұрын
Honestly the raise hierarchy is real, especially if a lot of people are dead. Healers, rezers and melee gotta come first in that order. They're the most needed, fastest to get back on their feet, least likely to die straight away, and often highest output DPS
@Decus86
@Decus86 Ай бұрын
No, you get healers/rez dps or tanks depending on the situation. For the other dps you get the actually highest damaging ones, not roles. I've seen so many times healers raising some sam over and over and ignoring the literal top dps mch of the entire raid (who died, cuz probs the sam killed them xD). If you're not using act, then use aggro numbers in the party list. if a caster or phys ranged is 2 or 3 and melee is 6, then those ranged really just are more valuable.
@Fryulikebacon
@Fryulikebacon 2 ай бұрын
LMAO!!!! i love this video. As a sage i vow to keep all healer confidential information private.
@Azdaja13
@Azdaja13 Ай бұрын
There was one time when fighting Hegemone back when Abyssos first came out when I was playing White Mage and the other healer kept dying, as well as several of the DPS. The DPS started yelling at me in chat to rez them and not cast Glare III. However... I was saving my Swiftcasts and my Thin Airs for when the other Healer inevitably died again so I wasn't having to solo heal all the time and occasionally trying to rez DPS when I had both a Swiftcast and Thin Air together (however most of the time I was having to rez that other healer since they would not stop dying every two seconds so the DPS usually stayed dead). That and it wasn't worth rezzing them because they would just die again so my MP was better spent DPS-ing myself and keeping the tanks alive. Whenever I died (usually because I was having to keep up with way too many things at once during heavy mechanic phases) the entire party would immediately crumble. However one time the other healer actually managed to stay alive long enough to heal some people while I was dead and they got all the praise. xD
@imapseudonym6198
@imapseudonym6198 2 ай бұрын
I used to be way, way too eager to raise people. Like, I would always drop everything to do it immediately, make it priority one… only to lose too much focus on healing the people still up or mechanics still going on. Sorry to say it, but triage is a thing… and if you’re on the floor, you are at the very least not currently in danger.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
Omg I am stealing that "If you're on the floor, you're in the least amount of danger"
@jtheconqueror121
@jtheconqueror121 Ай бұрын
Only time I deliberately didn’t rez a DRK in Doma Castle was: he was pulling huge, not using mitigation or self healing (this was back when Abyssal Drain only healed with Dark Arts), then blaming me, a SCH, for not keeping him alive despite blowing through everything I had to keep him up. He deliberately ran back into Grynewaht’s avoidable chainsaw attack, so I left him on the floor when he fell over from it. He got mad at the whole party, both DPS told him to shut up, and we left him in the dirt.
@oretes85
@oretes85 2 ай бұрын
Weakness debuff, sometimes it’s better to rez on your own to not have that debuff for 2 min if the encounter is soon over.
@ReiTsukinoVT
@ReiTsukinoVT 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes the floor needs the extra tanking time! 😅
@rikkupendragon8372
@rikkupendragon8372 Ай бұрын
These are the most common reason everyday eorzean has listed but there is a even more detailed priority list of who to raise first. This is a priority list I have been taught by other experienced players who do both casual and high end content. 1. Healer partner (depending on mechanics. I will typically raise my healer partner first over everyone else unless I know that a tank buster mech is coming up and our tank is down. Then the tank get the first raise. Even if my healer partner was raised and they died again, I'll still raise them over other dps, especially if the party is struggling with executing mechanics successfully and is taking a lot of damage on top of getting a lot of raid wide damage, I will prioritize my healer partner. If the party is doing very well with mechanics, I may raise a rez mage before raising my healer partner a second time just to get more bodies up.) 2. Tanks. (Unless a tank buster mech is coming up, they will be prioritized) In parties where there is 2 tanks, Warrior first, Paladin next, gunbreaker and then dark knight. 3. Rez mages. Summoner or Redmage. If there are both a redmage and a summoner, I will raise the one that is the least furthest down the party list. 3. Blackmage or Pictomancer. Basically casters will get the rez first after the rez mages. 4. Next are the melee dps with the typical highest dealing damage melee being prioritized. Viper 5. Monk 6. Reaper 7. Dragoon 8. Ninja 9. Samurai 10. Then physical ranged. Dancer 11. Bard 12. Machinist I have been taught this priority list because casters tend to deal a lot of heavy damage, I've even seen them doing more damage than melee (if you look at your party list, you'll notice some numbers on your party members. Red A for tank, 2 for either second tank or dps, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. These numbers indicate who is next in line to get aggro of the boss or add that they are attacking. If the tank dies, the person next in line for aggro gets the aggro. This doesn't always mean they're doing the most damage but it can indicate that. Healers can easily get 2 on the priority because their heals generate aggro like their damage skills. The second tank should be number 2.) Of course, if I see who is dealing more damage then other dps, I will prioritize them. Example, the viper is doing more damage than the blackmage, the viper will get raised first. I will raise the top dps in the party first (after rez mage or if there are no rez mages) and then go down the priority list of casters first, Melee dps, then Phys ranged.
@yggdrasil1706
@yggdrasil1706 2 ай бұрын
Swift cast is on cool down. Tank that floor for a while.
@TheGWALReview
@TheGWALReview Ай бұрын
As a white mage all I ask is that you give your blood to the blood lilly.
@boat02
@boat02 Ай бұрын
My reason: you've been chugging on my MP the entire raid and I really, really, really need to shield and heal everyone else for this upcoming part.
@Uni790
@Uni790 Ай бұрын
The reasons I haven't rezzed you: 1: Swift cast is on cooldown(not going to catch me casting a revive without swiftcast, there's always something better to do in that time) 2: a live party member is in danger of death(a living member will always have the priority) 3: you've shown a habit of diving straight back into attacking ignoring the invuln time that I can use to heal you after rez(you get 4 seconds or so of invulnerability after resurrection unless you use a skill or autoattack, give your healers at least this long to toss a heal your direction before going back to attacking) 4: you've died... a lot(in this case(and #3), I'll probably not waste the MP, wait for another rezzer) 5: my MP is low(doesn't happen often these days, but sometimes it's just to low to risk spending it on a rez) 6: someone more important is dead(or close to it(lets face it, DPS aren't critical, that other healer or tank on the other hand, those are critical assets, DPS can wait))
@orivand27
@orivand27 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes I just like to let them simmer, reflect and sometimes I WANT them to complain... heheheah MUAHHAHA
@JohnDCrafton
@JohnDCrafton 2 ай бұрын
i don't mind waiting so much. i do mind being raised and then dying to the next raidwide because no one healed me. i also mind when I'm the only rez mage and you raise every other dps before me. bonus points if you raise the same person multiple times before you get to me.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean 2 ай бұрын
I would have raised you :(
@JohnDCrafton
@JohnDCrafton 2 ай бұрын
@@EverydayEorzean I didn't mean you specifically. I should have worded that differently. I'm sorry.
@jun-rose
@jun-rose Ай бұрын
Thats happened to me so many times :c Not mad just disappointed
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
@@JohnDCrafton oh no! I didn’t take it that way. No need for apologies. :)
@Elaine19899
@Elaine19899 Ай бұрын
I mean, you realize there's 5 sec immunity, stop pushing button like an ape and wait for that aoe
@HauntedCrw
@HauntedCrw Ай бұрын
I had to set a macro on my raise and on my swiftcast to let not only my party know, "Hey I just raised x many people. And my swiftcast is on cooldown", but to let my co-healer know; "I need you to stop spamming glare for 2 seconds and raise too. My poor mana is shOT".
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
lol. Yeah I think alert macros for that are great - just a little informal communication saying "SwiftCast Down"
@dragkigamer7944
@dragkigamer7944 Ай бұрын
When i am playing summoner my personal rule is i am not res anyone unless 1. Both healers are dead Or 2. The situation turns into absolutely chaos and most of the party is dead ill help with res Other wise my inst cast going towards slipstream everytime
@AMVEditorShadownick
@AMVEditorShadownick 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I like taking some of the load off my healers when it comes to someone dying. I stick close to them and use my macro Rez on summoner so they can cast an easy aoe heal to maintain the flow.
@lanah_tyra
@lanah_tyra 2 ай бұрын
That's me on RDM in alliance raids. that can be hard enough as it is, I queue there to help the healers. Even my macro says "You heal I'll be the rezmage"
@AMVEditorShadownick
@AMVEditorShadownick 2 ай бұрын
@lanah_tyra Depending on my mood my Rez message is either "Wakey Wakey eggs and GET UP!" or "Awaken my Master"
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
As healers, we love you. So much.
@ariska1312
@ariska1312 Ай бұрын
Jokes on you, healers being the first to die is why I don’t get a raise xD
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
Shooooot this was definitely me in Jeuno first run lol
@jonesdaevilone
@jonesdaevilone Ай бұрын
The physical pain I feel as a red mage when I see the healer raise the samurai before me 😅
@Scobill
@Scobill 2 ай бұрын
Can I get a "Why I'm not healing you" video? Sincerely, The Tank (Not a Warrior... Or paladin.. or Gu... I'm a DRK okay, heal me!
@JathraDH
@JathraDH 2 ай бұрын
Probably because you aren't TBNing enough.
@Scobill
@Scobill 2 ай бұрын
@JathraDH what the hell's a tbn?
@JathraDH
@JathraDH 2 ай бұрын
@@Scobill There's your problem lol.
@h4oyu
@h4oyu 2 ай бұрын
@@Scobill the blackest night
@CetteSara
@CetteSara 2 ай бұрын
@@Scobill The blackest night, a lvl70 mitigation you want to use anytime you can :)
@foxceles
@foxceles Ай бұрын
As a ranged DPS, i know i'm expendable. The floor is cozy, i can wait.
@nevzilla
@nevzilla Ай бұрын
Mahna: Talliah why have you not raised me? Talliah: the floor is lava and I need to stand on you to keep from ruining my shoes. Mahna: Fair.
@excelsior5719
@excelsior5719 Ай бұрын
As healer, my job is to keep party alive and if someone dies, on first chance, even risky one, regardless if i have swiftcast or not, i *WILL* raise *ANY* downed player. So when it comes to the question, why healers dont raise? Its simple. Prioritizing DPS instead of being utility to the party just makes you a bad healer. End of story.
@flutterpie7564
@flutterpie7564 Ай бұрын
I main smn. I more get confused when a samurai gets rezed before me. Especially when I was helping rez throughout the encounter. That is one reason I love smn. I can help heal a little and rez. I feel helpful. Even if I am new or just keep failing mechanics.
@MNOMST
@MNOMST 2 ай бұрын
Additional bonus reason: tank and a dps were busy covering platforms in mud and I only needed the tank. This is how you get called a bot.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
lol Was this Arboretum?
@resolute_visit
@resolute_visit Ай бұрын
A very niche reason (this might just be me) is I was so caught up vibing to my music playlist that I completely forgot I was a healer and had access to raise 😂
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
Or heal.... XD
@dourdaur
@dourdaur 2 ай бұрын
I've done the bulk of the content via NPC-instances due to playing Summoner for the longest amount of time, and I've simply come to appreciate Healers because of that. Every time I die, I need to redo the boss battle. So whenever I die on a player-instance trial/dungeon, I wait until I can hop back on, simple as. And as Summoner, sometimes I need to help a Healer out by using my swiftcast resurrect. I've begun to learn tank as a Warrior now, to see what are the pros and cons of the role. Oh, and to achieve a glam goal, of course.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
Whaaaat? You went Warrior? That's like the best healer out there.
@WitchyUmeko
@WitchyUmeko Ай бұрын
Imagine being in a party of 3 RDM,1 SMN and 1 BRD, and when all the DPS died (because it’s a blind raid), the healers decided that raising the BRD first is a good idea…
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
ooof... I'm going to go with temporary insanity or some kind of friend privilege.
@dragonquest3827
@dragonquest3827 Ай бұрын
Sometimes i would rather just help raise awareness...
@ProfessM
@ProfessM Ай бұрын
I don't mind when healers don't raise, they have anywhere from 1 to 7 players to keep alive. No when both healers are down and the two summoners are using their swift cast to DPS and have full MP that's when I get salty. I don't care if its a slight dps lost that in comming raid wide that will drop your DPS to 0 when you are dead. I also get salty when the healers keep raising the summoners knowing that won't raise! This also goes to Red Mages but they are rare to no raise.
@iPlayOnSpica
@iPlayOnSpica Ай бұрын
Reason I, as healer main, am not reviving you, in this order: #1: Dealing with a nasty debuff on me, i.e. unable to perform actions #2: Lost line of sight/too far away (mostly due to a mech that separates the party) #3: MP low (usually the case after reviving multiple teammates, or if I just died and got revived, then revived one teammate) #4: Swiftcast is down #5: Enemy is very close to death #6: Too much incoming damage, or need to move for mechs; my first job is keeping myself and teammates alive, healing/saving is a higher priority than reviving #7: Not SMN or RDM, if you're a dps #8: You die too much (i.e. third death and already have 50% weakness) and are therefore not a priority #9: Waiting for LB3, if LB bar is close to filling up and many are dead #10: (Prog only) pull is hopeless and I'm only trying to see the next mechanic before I die, too
@alenacheka
@alenacheka Ай бұрын
I once died on a lvl 100 trial and was never ressed. It was funny to see several swift casts on the healer thinking “oh it’s for me!” and then it disappears without res. And funniest part I got 3 commendations after xD Just for laying down third of the fight
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
Awwweee lol, I'm sorry you never got the rez :(. At least you got the comms!
@Scarlet_Fate
@Scarlet_Fate Ай бұрын
Forgot the "This is your 9th death this fight, your DPS is literally not worth the mana and two lost glares."
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
With the latest 24-man I had some... a lot of floor time learning it lol. I totally understood. By the 3rd death I was just like... leave me. Carry on sirs.
@cyan_wings5420
@cyan_wings5420 Ай бұрын
That coffee is the only thing between us, and string of pure, unbridled rage X;'D
@liamlockheartart7560
@liamlockheartart7560 Ай бұрын
I always just assume the healer is busy and doesnt have a swift cast ready.
@MMM172310
@MMM172310 Ай бұрын
I (sch/whm) frequently co-heal with FC member (sge) that flat out refuses to Rez dps. They will Rez tanks or other healer, but are really elitist and tbh kinda rude when dps need Rez. So I know I’m on Rez duty when we are partnered, and I also am very aware of rezzing dps when I smn or play rdm. Their attitude has really changed the way I play
@armsman5322
@armsman5322 Ай бұрын
FYI - As a DPS main myself (Monk) - If you get that raise, you should be looking at the situation and if you know a mechanic is going to go off at about the time you would stand back up on the floor; you should WAIT to click okay, so you don't pop up and go straight back down again. Don't trust the few seconds 'grace period you get IF you don't move. Sometimes that server cheats OR you accidently move a bit and BOOM you're hit again. And that Healer priority list has other downed Healers and Tanks before you. The best thing you can do as a DPS is stay out of sh!t and learn/figure out how and when to use you own limited self healing and damage mitigation abilities to full effect, and don't expect the Healer to always save your ass. If it's between saving you and the Tank or you and another healer who's HP bar is near death, yeah, they come BEFORE DPS. We're expected to keep ourselves alive. 😁
@Soridan
@Soridan Ай бұрын
It's not movement that stops the roughly 5 seconds of immunity, you can run around without worry. Just don't cast anything. And bear in mind that the immunity is for MOST damage, there are mechanics that go through it. Not a bad idea to just wait a few seconds for the mechanics to go away before getting up.
@jeshirekitenkatt1212
@jeshirekitenkatt1212 Ай бұрын
i'm a summoner who deliberately keeps swiftcast free to help prevent wipes, but i'm a sprout so people just assume i don't know how to swiftrez or rez at all. like gdi if at least 1-2 other people are down aside from me please just f**king rez me i can handle it
@katarh
@katarh Ай бұрын
Me as a DPS: SMN or RDM = rez me rez me rez me! Me as anything else: Yeah, take your time. I'm sure you've got better things to do.
@rosebrigade
@rosebrigade Ай бұрын
Top *Good* Reasons DPS might not get a raise: 1. My Swiftcast is down and I'd rather spend time healing than hardcasting 2. I'm Raising someone higher on priority (IE Co-healer, Tank, or a Raise-capable DPS like RDM or SMN) 3. I'm Focusing on keeping everyone else alive during a stressful situation 4. I can't get to you right now. (perhaps other side of a big arena, and traversing there might get me killed as well) Top *BAD* reasons DPS might not get a raise (and why they're bad): 1. I don't want to waste time raising someone who's died 5x in the last 2 minutes (This might fly in a dungeon fight, but I'd rather assume someone is new and bad at the fight than stupid. I raise everyone idc who you are) 2. My Mana is too low (Bad MP management as a Healer is a poor excuse, unless you just got raised yourself, your MP is your own problem) 3. I'm a Glare mage (Play dps stop healing.. please) 4. Didn't see you. (Bad party awareness, Healer should always watch the party list) Just as a reminder though, there is another golden rule healers tend to leave by. Main healer (which is usually a WHM or AST) will handle the top half of the party list, and the off-healer (usually a SCH or SGE) will handle the bottom half. The exceptions are usually people on comms, RDM/SMN, double Regen/shield healers, or baby healers who haven't learned it yet. If you're a WHM, and there's someone dead on the top half of your party list and the other healer isn't getting them, assume they are following that rule and you are failing your team lol. I'll be really honest though some of the reasons the video gave are pretty crappy. If you aren't paying attention to people dying or playing chicken with your co-healer, then you really aren't doing your job as a healer. I always assume the other healer isn't gonna do it until I see them cast swift-cast, unless I'm on comms with the co-healer coordinating who to heal, then raising is something I'll always do on my safe opportunity.
@4SkippyRoo
@4SkippyRoo Ай бұрын
ahh yes, healer MC syndrome
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
If I can't be the MC in my own story, where can I be?!
@4SkippyRoo
@4SkippyRoo Ай бұрын
@EverydayEorzean maybe not in a cooperative gameplay environment with other people
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
@@4SkippyRoo I think my sarcasm may not be translating over text… or in the video if the message received was MC syndrome, I’ll work on that ^^ I’m a firm believer in working together to solve problems and everyone deserves a raise, I go over that in my other less cheeky videos. Stick around and you’ll find that this community is all about sharing knowledge and helping each other out :).
@4SkippyRoo
@4SkippyRoo Ай бұрын
@@EverydayEorzean have you looked at your own comment section? Case in point why DPS will always need self shields, mits, and self sustain.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
@@4SkippyRoo I have. I respond to quite a few of them. And I agree - the devs give shields, mits and self sustain with the express purpose of helping with party damage mitigation or survival as part of cooperative gameplay, but I have a feeling we have are just coming at this from different perspectives, and youtube comments section doesn't exactly allow for nuanced conversation. Either way, hope you stick around to see all the different discussions we have, if not, happy adventuring!
@Draylin41
@Draylin41 Ай бұрын
If I ever get that question, I don't answer it. Either it's bait or the person asking is ignorant. I'll certainly help them learn mechs and how not to die but if they're asking for advice, but they should be asking why they are lying on the floor to begin with. Now, if on the other hand I'm not playing healer and I notice my group's healer isn't doing enough to keep expected damage from killing us, it's a whole nother story.
@ducksplain
@ducksplain 2 ай бұрын
If I haven't Raised you yet, it's because you still need to learn that your life is in my hands.
@TheRealVarsam
@TheRealVarsam 2 ай бұрын
I just started healing with sage after starting five dps classes and and three tanks. If swiftcast is out your res is in queue
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
I feel like everyone should level at least 1 of each role.
@peachtea6514
@peachtea6514 Ай бұрын
Reason number 10 you are in a party with your best friends but they are dating so he will always revive his girlfriend first no matter how long you’ve been laying there dead
@ciary
@ciary Ай бұрын
I'm not raising you because I already did so 5 seconds ago, and 30, and last minute, and ...
@kyeirwin7915
@kyeirwin7915 Ай бұрын
As a RDM/SGE main ..I agree with this list😂
@Gunthersby
@Gunthersby 2 ай бұрын
I usually heal, but playing an unfamiliar dps I miss the mechanic and die. Usually if I'm eating floor a while, it's understandable but sometimes healers will leave me as long as a minute under stress free circumstances like I did it on purpose 🗿
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean 2 ай бұрын
:( well that's sucky. If it's your first death I think you should get a raise as soon as able.
@yuzuki2385
@yuzuki2385 Ай бұрын
I'm gonna be real to some of you who definitely knows that this is one of you, i won't prioritize rezzing you if you keep dying to the same mechanic you've seen 6 billion times lol
@faylinnmystiquerose2224
@faylinnmystiquerose2224 2 ай бұрын
I've definitely been in the situation where I'm playing AST and see someone go down, figuring the WHM has it, but they didn't, so I had to drop a lightspeed and pick them up myself ^^; and yeah...higher priority is definitely going to others who can raise :P
@BlazeBuds
@BlazeBuds Ай бұрын
It only annoys me when everyone else is fine for hp and dealing with mechs and some healers just don't want to do a hard raise and lose dps, lose more dps by leaving a dps dead, especially a ninja
@IyasuHN2
@IyasuHN2 Ай бұрын
My whole issue is when i die to damage and then you both neglect me further by waiting 25s for the next swiftcast when im dead because you ignored my 30 second dot i cant dodge. Dps can trust me, the rdm main to always bring you back fam.
@Quinz128
@Quinz128 2 ай бұрын
I thought it would just be: "You're not my kid. I ain't gotta raise you."
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
LOL. "Not my problem" /glares.
@stevepowell491
@stevepowell491 Ай бұрын
Here's a bit of a fun fact: In the real world, Medics put their own life above yours. Even with first aid, it's the very first thing to consider when approaching a scene: Danger (it's the D in the DR ABC of first aid - or DR C AcBCDEF for more advanced first aid). Basically don't become a casualty 'cause if you do then you need someone else to come save your tail. So in MMO's the healers are actually following correct Medic/first aid procedure. Games imitating life indeed :)
@fatesfrozenflame
@fatesfrozenflame Ай бұрын
Boss has two phases and we’re at the end of phase one so raising you won’t really help since the phase will end before you can act. I raised you and you didn’t take advantage of the invuln period and died immediately so you go to time out now.
@tazdog4528
@tazdog4528 Ай бұрын
Ill admit i die alot and its typicaly my fault for not getting out of crap. Thats totaly on me. I also no that you should always keep the tank and healers up before anyone else when runing group content. Before healers start focousing on a dps class that needs rezzed they need to focous on the group just common since. I just hope that i do get back on my feet asap to try and help the group but i wont stress about not getting rezzed when the healers are trying to keep the group alive over rezzing.
@maximalsilverlioness5633
@maximalsilverlioness5633 2 ай бұрын
For someone who tried white mage, I'm a bit annoyed how long the casting time for raise. Come on dev's why, why you do you have to do that. I now understand why the healer jobs a bit long to raise, I mostly play DSP and I kinda feel bad for healers to raise me everytime. 😓 But I know it's part the healers job. AND why bother having Phoenix Down if you can't use it, at least make a one time used thing. Like the ring in ff9 with auto-life, the one time used in battle.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
I would LOVE for DPS to have the ability to use Phoenix Feather during fights, that would be amazing.
@MadLunat
@MadLunat Ай бұрын
Meanwhils me hoping not to get rezzed cuz I know I'll die again most instantly...
@laurakane2252
@laurakane2252 Ай бұрын
I'm always the one needing a rez /shame I have never needed to know why I haven't been rezzed yet because I know I'm most likely the one who put your rez on cd. Sorry in advance is my hello entering any dungeon or raid. That deep breath had me loling I could never be so kind if I was the healer in a dungeon with me as the dps. I yell at myself though. FFS THAT GIANT RED THING WAS down for 5 min and you still didn't move fast enough! Anyway, thanks for the rez!
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
Always
@Nightfalcon000
@Nightfalcon000 Ай бұрын
I'll prioritize rezzing someone that I killed...by Rescuing them...intentionally...into death...unless of course the tank is down or the other healer has dropped as well. Okay, look, I promise I have my reasons. And I only ever "Rescue" DPS that are being naughty.
@WhyrenGP
@WhyrenGP 2 ай бұрын
i just tell people that their number of stacks is their seat in the rezz que
@Laterose15
@Laterose15 Ай бұрын
If you keep dying again and again and again, at some point I'm going to make an executive decision that my MP is better spent on other pursuits.
@williampearce5757
@williampearce5757 Ай бұрын
This is why you bring a Red Mage. We are unambiguously better at dispensing Rez's than any healer. Now recovering *after* that Rez... nooooot so much [Cries in lack of Piety Scaling[
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
@@williampearce5757 I appreciate every mp you throw at a raise. Thank you :)
@williampearce5757
@williampearce5757 Ай бұрын
@@EverydayEorzean And I appreciate you keeping me alive while I do it!
@nikkicoyotie8431
@nikkicoyotie8431 Ай бұрын
as a DPS, I don't really ask this question unless the healer's had ample time and is DPSing. My big question is usually "Why is healer A not rezzing healer B?
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
You and me both Nikki.... you and me both.
@BloodKitten_
@BloodKitten_ 2 ай бұрын
swiftcast, i am not wasting 7-8 seconds ressing if its not a bunch of new players for content that is kinda tricky for first timers (thanks snapshot M4)
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
If it's new content I'm definitely up for hard cast raises. I mean I found myself on the floor more times than I'd like to admit last night trying the 24 man.
@jonathangille8643
@jonathangille8643 Ай бұрын
You forgot the most important reason, raising you ruins my dps which is a big no for a dps-healer.
@EverydayEorzean
@EverydayEorzean Ай бұрын
XD yes yes I know about the Green DPS movement, I myself was once caught up in it. I'm a bit more chill now though. I definitely still do DPS, but I won't let it put off me raising someone purely for the fflog
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