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Welcome back Snorfs. I've taken it upon myself to debunk MatPat's "Gregory is a robot" theory, or at least, discuss it as best I can. This video is as thorough as I could have made it, but please let me know if I missed anything.
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‪@GameTheory‬
- • Game Theory: FNAF, Don...
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‪@BandenTCY‬
- • FNAF Security Breach -...
Timestamps:
Intro - 0:00
Robot Category- 1:39
Crying Child Category - 15:10
My Gregory Theory - 24:42
Conclusion- 26:45

[@krazysamurai]

I HATE ROBOTS I HATE ROBOTS I HATE ROBOTS GRAAAAAAAAH

[@wsgimfloof]

- william afton, 1993, right before being chased in the saferoom

[@jefftonsman]

Cope and seethe about it

[@TangleHamain]

The future is coming for your ass lol

[@krazysamurai]

@@jefftonsman come to the united states capitol building. we are having a boxing match.

[@jefftonsman]

@@krazysamurai no

[@SmolChild1173]

I think the problem with fnaf theorizing nowadays is that new characters are just not allowed to exist anymore. Everyone has to be someone else and if not, the community gets mad.

[@SamuelDoherty]

Also matpat kinda has a monopoly on fnaf theorising and due to his video calling out people who disagree with his theories now have his fanatics who want to prove they're the 'good fans' mindlessly spew his theories as fact and not thinking for themselves

[@BruggleStar]

I don't mind characters paralleling each other; often, it's a pretty good literary device. But, each character needs to be their own. Not just carbon copies.

[@SmolChild1173]

@@BruggleStar well i mean when characters ARE literally another characters. not when they parallel each other.

[@BruggleStar]

@@SmolChild1173 I get what you're saying, I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying that people need to be aware that parallels to existing characters can exist without being carbon copies to them. Vanessa can be ADJACENT to Elizabeth without BEING Elizabeth. Gregory can be ADJACENT to C.C. without BEING C.C..

[@SmolChild1173]

@@BruggleStar oh ok thank you

[@axthxrn]

I've always seen the "gregory with the freddy popsicle," as a kind of jokey nod to fnaf 4. Like, "Oh haha, the kid is now the one biting fredbear. That's ironic." Not as, "this is super important lore!!!!11!!11!1!" Lol

[@littlegoat713]

ikr? dunno how anyone else can see it as "OH, THIS PROVES GREGORY IS CC!!" like... nah? It's a reference, not significance.

[@paradiso-gt-7452]

I get your point, but ignoring even the slightest of evidence always proved to be a bad decision in this franchise. Also Steel Wool was probably aware of how risky it would have been to give the kid that kinda looks like CC a yellow freddy ice-cream that was bitten.

[@axthxrn]

@paradiso-gt-7452 I mean yeah, but until that gets confirmed to actually be important, it'll just be a joke to me. I wouldn't be surprised if most of those small details were originally jokes that got turned into huge things by the fandom honestly

[@sillysnowmenn]

i mean, every little detail can’t be overlooked. it may or not be canon but that’s like if a new fan said the tears on the puppet didn’t matter

[@axthxrn]

@hearts4kafka But that's character design, character design is very different from a one-off scene. The design is supposed to tell you who a character is, so ofc the puppets tears are important to its character

[@Takejiro24]

Not sure how much this helps; but, in Ruin, Helpi completely replaces Freddy's head in the ending replicating the "Free Vanny" ending from Security Breach. For some weird reason.

[@artist0154]

Is almost like Steel Wool saw everyones theories and they were like "oh shoot we didnt mean that" So the best thing they came up with was "lets put it again but removing those details, now is easy to read right?"

[@Takejiro24]

@@artist0154 Interesting. What do you think Helpy replacing Freddy could mean? 'Cause I got nothing.

[@artist0154]

@@Takejiro24 I don't think it means anything, rather, they removed the opportunity for meaning. They removed Freddy They changed Greg's ice cream The ending is accessed through the VR mask. To my way of seeing things is like saying that every "Hill ending" is not real, or that those endings and their info should be downplayed.

[@Takejiro24]

@@artist0154 Much appreciated 👍

[@artist0154]

@monkebrain5932 oh sorry, I mean Security Breach Hill endings

[@NintendooGames]

One thing I think a lot is how the Mimic has the access to all the FNAF "lore" since he was literally trained on all the in-game universe games, so he probably would know about the Afton family and, well, everything we know and theorize about in the community. I say that because there is literally an Ennard cutout in the game, which connects SL being an in-game game, and an Afton arcade machine, which explicitly shows they know who he is and even "celebrate" him somewhat. Therefore, it wouldn't be farfetched that a being controlled, influenced or built upon Glitchtrap/Mimic learning to be "human" to have the knowledge of the Afton family in its database and use it in its training. For example, because they are basing their reality on the games in their training, their idea of a nuclear family is the one we have confirmed in the games (Afton family), their idea of a living room is the one from SL (the code room), etc etc. I dont know. I think this connection is not explored enough and it seems pretty cut and dry to me that the references to past titles could be the machinations of, well, their knowledge of past titles and they being trained on them to make the VR game.

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

It would be cool if Fazbear Ent. had planned to use the mimic as a William animatronic attraction like 'meet our founder'.

[@syweb2]

It would likely be missing out on some info we have from the Scottgames and FNAFWorld website teasers, but who knows! Maybe the Indie Dev also made his own version of those, and Faz Ent had backups for some reason?

[@burner555]

I don't think Mimic could make the connection between Purple guy and Afton family by the games alone: -Purple guy in FNAF 4 doesn't interact at all with Crying Child -Crying Child isn't refferenced at all after FNAF 4 -Purple guy is never called William(and FazEnt would definitely try to cover that) -Henry's name isn't mentioned at all except HRY_223 -Michael barely talks, so it wouldn't realize the player in FNAF1/6/3?/4? is him -Michael doesn't show interest for Foxy, so it wouldn't realize Mike is Foxybro Much like the community, Mimic would need additional material to understand the proper story

[@NintendooGames]

@monkebrain5932 Yep, not saying otherwise - it's pretty clear to me that, even though they are still in-game videogames, they still happened somewhat. What I find very interesting is that Ennard and Afton are characters in the Fazbear in-universe, meaning they still celebrate, commercialize and expose new people to them to a certain degree, even though they are not "official" animatronics. With Scott and Steelwool going out of their way to state "there is no easter-eggs", it's very weird that these, well, real life monsters and demons are still products for Fazbear.

[@aiwdmsm9014]

the "Never cries. Only screams a handful of times" line is especially funny when you realize that Gregory did at one point have crying voice lines, but they were cut from the game. they chose to make this kid as different as possible from the crying child. or more likely they were cut because the scene they were for was cut but still its funny to me Edit: also, i want to mention something about the TftPP books. The whole robot kids thing seems a lot like a stretch, especially with the points brought up in the video, but also I think its ignoring a larger theme amongst the books: fake realities. In nearly every Tales book, there's a story revolving around some sort of fake reality that the protagonist experiences. Under Construction (Lally's Game story 3): Maya becomes trapped in the VR/AR booth and experiences an odd world constructed by the booth without her knowledge. Help Wanted (HAPPS story 1): What Steve believes to be nightmares and his family are actually all robots with enhanced appearances, seemingly via illusion disks. Somniphobia: Sam becomes trapped in a fake dream world created by the dream sphere. (Animatronic Apocalypse and The Bobbidots Conclusion don't have stories with this theme) Drowning (Nexie story 2): Similar to Under Construction, Kara becomes trapped in a VR booth, but this time she is aware of it. Tiger Rock: Just like Under Construction and Drowning, Kai becomes trapped in VR, this time without his knowledge again. Dittophobia (B7-2 story 3): Rory discovers that his home and nightmares are actually visually enhanced by some sort of hallucinogenic gas, and he has been repeating the same days over and over for a decade. I think at some point in the future we may see a kind of fake reality in the games. Hell, we kinda already have with the brazil ending where the Vanni mask makes Cassie believe she is actually outside the Pizzaplex and with Gregory and Vanessa. Part of the reason I think this is because the Fazbear Frights books have a similar thing going on, but just with a different theme, that being The protagonist in some way becoming owned by Fazbear(ish). This is a bit more loose but I think this was meant to be a hint/nod at the whole Glitchtrap corruption stuff. Into the Pit: Oswalds dad becomes replaced by Springbonnie. To be beautiful: Sarah is replaced with a heap of junk from Eleanor. Lonely Freddy: Alec swaps bodies with a lonely Freddy doll. Room For One More: Stanley's body is overtaken by Minireenas. (Step Closer, Bunny Call, and Blackbird don't have any with this theme afaik) He Told Me Everything: Chris is replaced by Faz-Goo. Gumdrop Angel: Angel's body is turned into candy and she is later eaten at Freddy's. The Puppet Carver: a theory, but Jack may have also been replaced by Faz-Goo. Sea Bonnies: Mott's body is overtaken by sea bonnies, and they steal his identity. Prankster: this is just glitchtrap bruh Kids At Play: Joel turns into a kids at play statue, which are owned by Fazbear. (Felix The Shark doesn't have one) I'll admit, some of these are stretches, but I'd say the theme is repeated enough to the point where it meaning something is possible. I'm not saying were gonna be seeing Faz Goo in the games any time soon, but what I am saying is that most of these line up fairly well with the basic concept of glitchtrap taking over a person. in summary cassie will be seeing all of her family and friends getting cancer in the next few years and she will never die and gregory is actually fazgoo instead of a robot thank you for listening to my theory :) (sorry for the wall of text lol)

[@brensnorf]

oh yeah, I remember those original trailers. the security breach that never was 😪

[@user-fk3mt8ck3v]

I do totally agree with the "fake realities" common plot on Tales, but i have to disagree with the "being own by Fazbear". I rather think the common trope is "replaced by robots", which is not something we have to wait to see, Michael is literally controlled/replaced by a robot, or Vanessa and Gregory, who are also controlled by a robot. It's funny, but i don't agree. Also, yes, Gregory is a Faz-Goo clone, and Cassie has Sea Bonnies inside.

[@mariotheundying]

Didn't get to that part of the video yet but don't the instructions say to not cry? Edit: oh he didn't put the whole thing, don't know why, unless debunking the robot theory makes it unnecessary to include that when going to the CC theory

[@FreddyFazGlitch]

I think the Vanny static is more or so a gameplay mechanic... the animatronics shake your screen to indicate they're near, but since it would make no sense for Vanny to do so since she's human, they added the static.

[@brensnorf]

yeah, someone else mentioned that. I actually wrote that into earlier versions of the script, but I evolved it into the grander point of "yes, coincidences happen in this series". there is a point to be had about how community reactions to artistic choices can constrict the game devs, which I don't like. but yeah, you're likely totally right

[@higueraft571]

@@brensnorf Admittedly one point towards the general Symbolic vs Literal argument in the video i'll add... If we were reading The Immortal and the Restless literally, then William straight up tried to disown Michael or CC at some point, and Mrs Afton is an Arsonist vs the literally spelled out answer in the logbook, of Clara being Michael, and Vlad/the Baby being FazEnt/William and all the shit going on at the locations he visited. Also a bonus: 23:36 Unironically, you could argue *Michael Afton* is a closer fit to Greggory than CC, there's way more evidence in his behavior :V He isnt, but you could.

[@rattyxoxo7397]

My main issue with Gregbot is that from a narrative perspective everything that achieves is already done just by having Gregory be under Glitchtrap’s control. He may have a ton of CC connections but those could easily be that the Mimic/Glitchtrap are seeking out victims similar to the Afton family or seek to shape Gregory into a similar form as CC, which also works with the Vanessa and Elizabeth connections that have become even more prevalent by the movie having Vanessa be William’s daughter, even if that’s clearly a different canon. You already mention how the static is perhaps better explained by Gregory having the V.A.N.N.I chip installed, and the Post-It room and Wall Code could also either work to teach a Glitchtrap virus Gregory or just be for a different character. Saying Gregory is a robot feels like putting the circle in the square hole when there’s a circular hole right there: it works technically, but it’s a weird over complicated angle to take when a far simpler alternative exists

[@honeyybutter]

I agree so much with this, robot theory doesn't explain anything better than glitchtrap does

[@simbaking67]

why would he destroy glitch trap or free vanny if he was under his contorl that doesnt even make sense

[@benwelsh5265]

Okay but lowkey I'd love to see a GTlive reaction to this. Your videos are always so well structured man, your one on the books got me to genuinely re-evaluate my approach to them and the series you did taking apart the lore of each game surgically and reaching conclusions with least amount of assumption possible made me a subscriber.

[@pilloeglade5463]

I've heard folks say gregbot was created by the Afton wife who is also the fazbear CEO. Has Mrs Afton even been hinted at outside of "might be Bellora." ?

[@brensnorf]

ehhh, there's the woman-like robot at the table in the Staff bot silo, but other than that, no. I don't even think a mother is mentioned in the books 💀

[@oliviamoodyyyy]

glad you brought up the N vs. S thing and I’m not the only one who was put off by it. as an S, it felt very weird to be told that my brain just isn’t meant to make theories? like being an S is the step before you ascend to the more perfect N. I know MatPat likes to teach about things throughout his videos, and this one follows his psychology background (although he should know that personality tests are to be taken with a grain of salt and only used as a loose guideline), but it was odd to see him take the route of putting everyone into two boxes and that’s it? I like MatPat but sometimes he just has these moments that feel…odd. great video. it’s great to see someone thoroughly explore a theory from all angles (oh no! the S mindset⁉️😥) and be open to new ideas! this is one of your best videos so far in my opinion

[@v1ct0rygames32]

I've always taken the scan lines in Gregory's vision as something to separate vanny from the other enemies (as she's SUPPOSED to be the main villain). Something similar to this is what happens when Bendy appears in BATIM where the ink vines appear on the walls. This was used to make him appear more threatening, similar to the scan lines with Vanny.

[@jimmyoakmeister]

The big issue with the Gregbot theory for me was the time. CC died in 1983. SB doesn't take place until 2025 at the earliest. That's roughly 4 decades between the two events. And there's only three people who could build and maintain him for that long. Henry's immediately out because he'd build Charlie like he did in the books. Michael gets his insides ripped out and replaced, and something tells me the Sister Location crew wouldn't care for a robot kid and probably scrap him for their own spare parts. And William gets locked in a room for 30 years with no way out. So who would be maintaining a robotic replica of the Crying Child for all those years? Especially since all those characters I listed are dead by the time of SB. And then later Matt ended up double-crossing this theory with his other theory that the first four games aren't even canon, they're only made up in-universe. Which creates the new issue of Gregory being a robot based on no one, and just being some random robot kid.

[@SamiTheAnxiousBean]

Reasons Gregory is a robot: Horrible writing Reasons Gregory isn't a robot: Horrible writing

[@DominickDoggo]

I feel like Glamrock Freddy would of been shocked to see Gregory as a robot, maybe even ask this to Gregory himself

[@SCP-469]

Garrett essentially plays the same role as BV. So that means Matpat has called the crying child a robot THREE SEPARATE TIMES. At a certain point you gotta give up 💀

[@king_plasma]

I need MatPat to see this even if it's just for the Sans is Gregory Joke

[@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV]

What I really love about this channel is actually that you have the (Apparently rare) ability to consider multiple ideas at once and analyse whether or not something is actually supported by actual evidence. What really made me subscribe and watch every video is that type of evidence based theorising, instead of building ideas on top of other ideas like a tower just to end up with a tiny mistake making a big mess down the line like in jenga. And I really appreciate that you encourage your viewers to think about theories instead of assuming. I honestly really hope @GameTheory sees this video, just so more people will see your videos. They are a true breath of fresh air, currently very needed in the theory community.

[@brensnorf]

ah, yeah. I find it exhausting to try to watch a theory video from someone and being sent on a chain of 500 videos to understand where their mind is at. in my videos, while I will often try to point people to other videos I’ve made, I try to make sure it's not a requirement, otherwise, as you said, I’d be building a house of cards for my theories

[@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV]

​@@brensnorf Yep, I think this sort of thinking and theory crafting is exactly what the fnaf community (And honestly IRL society at large, but that's always been the case.) really needs right now. A lot of new fans are joining up, and not all of them are like me in their willingness to watch hours of videos about a game they haven't even played.

[@bonnieplushtuber5517]

I hate the static evidence like it feels obvious that it’s just a gameplay mechanic in order to warn the player that she is near. It also could just be used to symbolize how she is controlled by glitchtrap

[@derrickdaniels3955]

I hated it too until you see in Ruin in the Daycare theatre Vanny makes the feed on screen glitch too and it is the feed and not Cassie's vision.

[@boomboom6410]

That's the problem with FNAF, the amount of obscure information that has proved vital to the lore has done irreparable damage to the theorizing scene. Fnaf is such a mess in the methods it chooses to tell it's stories that even a seemingly meaningless gameplay mechanic can be argued to have deep lore implications and you can't really rebuttal it.

[@littlegoat713]

@@derrickdaniels3955 dunno if this is for or against this proving Gregbot, but just to be aware, watching a recording (simulated as well since it's in the VR world) would NOT also mess with the viewer's eyes if the recording was also messed with via static interference or not. Again, just to be a friendly reminder ^^ If you already knew, just ignore me then lmao

[@caldercockatoo2234]

Fr, like do they not know that almost every single game has things on screen that don’t reflect what the character sees? Crosshairs, health bars, red filters when you take damage, literally any kind of user interface or visual effects? All the old FNaF games show the current hour on screen in addition to resources like power, does that me we were always playing as a robot? No, it just means we were given visual feedback from the game to help us. Scott and Steel Wool probably just thought it was a cool effect to warn you of Vanny’s presence and called it a day.

[@derrickdaniels3955]

@@littlegoat713 Its more proving Gregobot since Gregory suffers the static along with the feed Cassie sees, Cassie herself

[@porcelainchips6061]

I think the repeating themes of human-like robots is actually a narrative intent to "seed" in our brains what Afton aims for; meaning when we ask what motivates him, I think we're suppose to pick up these hints of Loss, Envy, Impulsive Violence and then trying to "put it back together". A bad villain is one who has to blatantly tell the audience their motive; a "good" villain is one we can deduce their reasoning/motive without it being directly quotable.

[@arisien7296]

I’m willing to bet that the thing living in the post it room was another mimic since in the books it’s confirmed that faz ent made new ones based off the original. The real question is: where did it go and why did it leave?

[@Crystal-pro-2024]

Finaly, somebody else who took a look at brazil and noticed they used it to change the ice cream

[@inkblooded1058]

There is one thing I think people oftentimes miss about theorizing in general. I'm not a huge MatPat person, but I am a theorist on my own, as well as an avid ARG player. You'd be shocked how often those thought processes overlap. Anyway, I digress: any theorist worth their salt is oftentimes *glad* when a theory is disproven solidly. It means the pool of potential correct answers is narrowed down, getting us one step closer to reality. Theorizing is using logic to make educated guesses at outcomes; when facts are found to disprove a theory, then it crosses that off the potential list, making it smaller and smaller. I love it when a theory of mine is proven wrong, because that means we're one step closer to the proper answer. Theories are just that: theories. They are not fact, but educated guesses. People tend to forget that sometimes, and assume someone stating a theory means it's fact. No, it is an educated guess of a potential outcome. More facts means the theory is more likely. Less facts, and it's less likely. Good theories can be disproven by a single fact, while some terrible theories are so open ended - which is *not* what you want with a theory - that it's basically impossible to disprove them, as one can either redirect the disproven portion of the theory over onto another "fact". People need to start realizing that no good theorist believes their theory are fact, until they're proven without a doubt by the original creators. Up till that point, they are basically extremely strange detective work.

[@BobbieBotsPuppetShow]

This entire video is a "THATS WHAT IM SAYING" moment

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

Oh gosh, they might actually be writing TSE into this era... I don't know how to feel about that... I understand wanting to reconcile all the alternate timelines you can, but in this situation that would be the worst possible move. I always thought Mimic was the one in the post it room, especially with the piles of heads. Meaning it already got out at some point, Nessa and Gregory had to trap it in the old saferoom (which there is evidence for, like the backpack) I feel like the big thing EVERYONE overlooks is that the robot child in the books isn't just a robot, but is actually a kid gundam body being piloted by a haunted doll. The doll itself contains the soul/agony. So a prerequisite is that the kid in question should be shown with a doll it takes everywhere. There is only one kid so far that fit the criteria, the one that we still don't even have a name for.

[@Beanballer]

I'm starting to think that the casual fnaf player sees MatPat's theorys as fact in fnaf, its called "game theory" for a reason, they're theories, speculation, not fact.

[@brensnorf]

yeah, I see at lot of posts on reddit where someone finds a genuine flaw in his theory, but think it's a plot hole because they assume matt couldn't have been wrong

[@littlegoat713]

agreed. Also hate either side being at each other's throats over it. I also hate Gregbot, but I know its just a theory. It just gets to me when people try to prove it as fact.

[@thepalpaduke867]

This comment makes me so happy because someone in this comment section was talking about matpat is spewing his theories which he never did so it made me so happy that i'm not the only one who thought that.

[@P.A.L.09]

I don’t actually think Gregory was that evil in the events of security breach

[@tyrannosarcophagous3447]

i feel like Gregory could be a foil to the Crying Child in addition to being a narrative catalyst. The visual design similarities are already obvious but the contrast you highlighted between their personalities got me thinking about character foils and how the traits you noticed already nudge them towards this category. honestly the lore of FNAF is kind of peanuts to me nowadays compared to character analysis and i feel your channel is a perfect balance! great video!

[@user-fk3mt8ck3v]

I think the whole theory could be reduced to this: Afton CAN'T create human robots. As you say, the point of the books is that William CAN'T create robot kids. But it's not because he can't make humanoid robots or stuff like that, which he obviously can, it's because he has to love that robot to give it life, and William CAN'T love, he cannot attach himself emotinally to anything and anyone. That's why he can't. Matpat thinks William IS a good father, and he says in his timeline that Elizabeth was his favourite, but later he also says that he was mean to her, so... it's weird. But, yet, even if you believe that William was a good person, the point is that he can't make human robots, he can make some that can pass as human some time, but not like Henry. Henry gave life to Charlie, that's why she's believeable even if she's a robot, because she IS alive. He also says that robot kids happen in Tales, but that's not true at all, and he uses the book covers as evidence. All the stories he points out are not about robot kids, or humans turning into robots, or robots believing they're humans, they are toys. Toys that push kids into doing bad things, or robots killing kids, or adults... just robots going crazy (bc advanced AI) and killing people. My own theory about all the Gregory connections (which i DO see and i don't understand why some people says they don't) is that they're not because he IS the Crying Child, but because they want to make Gregory THE OPPOSITE of C.C., and giving his character and story a twist. As you yourself say, Gregory's and C.C.'s both personality and actions are COMPLETELY contrary. I think it's on purpose. They want to draw the opposite relationship between Fredbear and C.C., look at it this way: Freddy (who, i should mention, has actually purple bowtie) protects Gregory, Fredbear kills C.C., Freddy says "I AM NOT ME", Fredbear says "It's me" (well it's Golden Freddy, but they're meant to be the same/ a similar character), Gregory never cries and manages to scape the danger, C.C. always cries and is always jumpscared, Fredbear bites C.C., Gregory bites Freddy- and it goes on and on. My point is that, like you said, those connections are not literal, but rather metaphorical. I also completely agree that Gregory takes C.C.'s role in the series, but i wanted to add that, their purpose is to also make a twist in that role, making it more... happier... to me at least. Another thing, while, yes, the wall code is not the same as it is described in the books, i'm pretty sure they're meant to be the same... For the rest, i loved the video, it's pretty compelling and envelops even more evidence that what Matpat points out in his video! Let's wait until the next GT Live, and see if Matpat reacts to this video! I'm sorry if this is too much text...

[@survivordave]

Where did MatPat ever claim Afton was a GOOD father? He seems to have some fatherly motivations, but that doesn't make him a good father. It seems more like the complete perversion of everything good about being a father: violent, abusive, neglectful, and sacrificing the lives of countless innocent children in the "name" of his own, just as bad fathers bully other people for the advantage of their children.

[@littlegoat713]

I genuinely hate the theory of Gregbot. Like you, I felt the resemblances were more symbolic than to be taken literally. And aside from coincidences happening constantly within FNaF (and people ignoring them), People also trying to use game related dialogue and mechanics to say "see? Gregbot is real" also gets on my nerves. I see Freddy and Gregory avoiding the words "Kill" and "Bleed/Blood" is just to get the game a more Teen rating, since thats what this series has come to at this point. And the Red static lines within Gregory's Eyes is because its a way to let the player know Vanny is here, and if I get told "then why didn't they just let the sound play without the red static?" I'd point them to the multiple instances of "Illusion Discs" being used, at a high pitched frequency, to alter the appearance of anything to the human eye. It could just so happen that Gregory is getting a headache from the ringing, or the frequency makes Gregory see Vanny as something scarier. I just really gets under my skin how MatPat's theories are taken as canon, rather than people trying to theorize with him, to (kindly) disprove him, or (kindly) support his theories and to let other know of this "breakthrough"

[@CGFillertext]

It also makes sense in-character for Freddy to say “broken” instead of “bleeding”. Freddy’s characterized as kind and a little naive, it tracks that he would try to use language that wouldn’t scare/worry kids (we can see more evidence of this whenever he tries to reassure Gregory by saying “Don’t panic” whenever something goes wrong throughout the game)

[@honeyybutter]

please do a greg is a sociopath theory I wish more people analyzed his character because its actually really intresting

[@YourLocalChaosGremlin]

(i know it might be said already but eh i'll still say it) the orignal line before it was replaced by "i feel you are broken." was supposed to reference a early cut section of dialogue where gregory got injured while in the vents.

[@MahNamJeff]

3:38 I wanted to bring this up as someone with extremely basic and amateurish writing knowledge. as far as im aware: head cocking, especially to one side, is a very common horror trope made to make someone, especially a human, look creepy. besides this, the main example i would use comes from the recently released spider-man 2 (specifically the penultimate boss of act 2) but it is also used a lot in sonic 06 with the character mephilies, neither of these characters are robots, but the idea behind both is to make them look inhuman, because one is a god pretending to be human while the other is being used to represent the growing corruption of one of its major characters, which has already been done a LOT not only in the fight but several other scenes via camera angles and the movement of said character. so while using it as robot evidence is potentially stable ground, its so vague it doesn't really mean anything because of the fact that its not only a trope, but because that trope is super blanketed in that theme (glitchtrap being a good example for gregory in this story) and can also just be done to make the scary character look scary, mainly in inhuman ways. but yeah, TLDR its a common horror trope that's typically used to make things look inhuman, be it posession or poor mimicry.

[@brensnorf]

memphis, tennessee from sonic 06 mentioned 👀

[@MahNamJeff]

@@brensnorf yeah, hes the most striking character to do the head cock in media that I can recall besides that major character in Spider-Man 2

[@StrangerInTheSnow]

Not only that, but it's also a very common way to show interest, confusion, curiosity, and thinking through body language. I know plenty of kids that show off this behaviour more often than adults. It's just a way to express your emotions nonverbally, and the emotion you are trying to portray can only be emphasied by your facial expressions. I'm an adult, but due to brain damage and having trouble understanding people, I communicate my confusion by cocking my head to the side rather than saying "What?" every five minutes. Almost always the person I'm talking to immedietly understands me and repeats themselves or exlpains it in a different manner. Think of like how dogs will cock their heads when you say something to them. They are aware that you're talking to them, but they don't understand you yet.

[@Juisyorange]

Couldn't have said any of this better myself. To be honest, if in the future it gets revealed that any other human (besides Gregory, Vanessa, or Cassie) is conferred to be a robot human in the games I would be pretty upset, but everything you have said borderlines perfectly explains what exactly are robot humans in FNAF. Fantastic video

[@jestry7246]

The one thing i hate more than robot kids is that fact that matpat will not let it go

[@Takejiro24]

Conceptually, while I personally don't want Gregory to be a robotic recreation of the Crying Child, I think GregBot (or just anyone being a robot really) could work but it has to be explored beyond a surface level, needs to have believable foreshadowing, and meaningfully tie into the narrative and characters. CharlieBot from The Silver Eyes trilogy didn't really do any of that and came across as a last minute plot twist for the sake of it so I can see why people are hesitant. I think Gregory's design does connect him to the Crying Child. But I don't think that makes Gregory C.C. Let my boy keep his agency and individuality!

[@ZirconiaGacha]

I really strongly dislike Gregbot as a theory, partially because Crying Child is my favorite FNaF character (weird I know) and because I like Gregory on his own. If Gregory is a robot recreation of Crying Child, then it not only replaces Crying Child completely, but also makes it so Gregory is never really going to be his own person. He'd always just be "the reincarnation of the Crying Child", to put it lightly. If they want to put a robot kid in, I'd say to be actually up front about it! Have the kid in question be AWARE they're a robot. Maybe they show up heavily injured with a shoddily wrapped-up arm, and refuse to let anyone else treat it because they don't want that to get out. Don't even use a past character as an inspiration, just have someone play god and make this kid like Henry did in the books. Boom, now you have a unique new character who doesn't invalidate anyone else as a character. EDIT: On Purple = Afton... The tear marks on the Puppet that only seem to appear when Charlie is actively possessing it ARE PURPLE.

[@scribblecloud]

im not agreeing or disagreeing but i just wanted to point out that i think mats point is less that each individual point is hard proof but that rater so many pointers to this theory existing at once is eye raising at the least

[@samueltitone5683]

I say we reverse this theory! Instead of the people being robots disguised as people, the robots should be living things disguised as robots. Edit: as I reread this “showbizz pizza bear is alive” would be a genuinely horrifying direction for the series to take.

[@brensnorf]

"Glamrock Freddy is a c̵̢̺͍͚̬̩̮̱̩̖̲͇͌͗̒̃̅̾r̶̻͖͗̋̍̿́̕̕e̷̛̫̳͚͎̮͇͈̯̰̩̽̎ͅa̸̦̓͋̅͊́̍̾̆̓̄̓̈́͘͘͝͝͝t̷̡̮̬͔̺͚̳̳̠̲̫͍̄̒̇͗̌̅̑͒̔ͅư̵͙̓͑̽͑͐̽͑̾̕͝ͅr̶͇̪̖̭̤̝̫̳͚̪͇̆̆͜e̶͕͙̓̈́͒̆"

[@brensnorf]

though I will say, I’ve been conceptualizing a game for a little while, where long story short, one of the monsters in the game is an old animatronic, the twist being that it isn't haunted or a rogue robot or anything, it's an alien species that was kept satisfied for years in the restaurant business, now set loose on the workd

[@Ben-zg8xk]

fun fact: matpats first robot theory was back when we didnt know whether michael was the crying child or foxybro, so matpat thought that i will put you back was literal and william had already suceeded in rebuilding crying child as a robot. This was theorised to be how michael survived being scooped. idk if this was a common theory back in the day before matpat but I remember this being the first time a character in the games was called a robot on flimsy evidence

[@marionette8739]

Funny how it takes more effort to refute Robot Kids than to simply accept them. Would like to borrow Occam's Razor?

[@brensnorf]

that isn't how occam's razor works. that's like if I were to say "grass is blue because I said so" and you try to prove to me that it's green, to which I follow up "look at the time you spent explaining that, it's so much simpler to just agree with me" occam's razor is for complexity, not for time. even then, you're still making the fallacy occam's razor is always the correct choice

[@dumbly-stupid]

Something I'd like to add about the filter is that there is also a filter for when moon appears and when you enter Fazerblast so imo it's likely just a game mechanic

[@arstotzkanplaguedoctor]

Part of the reason I don't like this is because it shows Matpat is oddly stubborn just for the sake of wanting to be right about something kinda outlandish once again, it probably would've been just fine if he didn't presented it so seriously. In his response video he complained about how toxic the community was while at the same time propagating it in a way too, especially with his whole "everyone who disagrees with me is a S personality" thing, even if he presented it a bit more graciously, at the end of the day that's still what it was.

[@SamuelDoherty]

Plus when he brings up people being outlandish when criticising him the 2nd bit of evidence both times he does the rule of 3 is lower stakes/blatantly not what he says it is to make you believe him. It's a common tactic for people in debates

[@arstotzkanplaguedoctor]

@@SamuelDoherty Oh yeah I'd completely forgotten, he didn't even bring up any of the actual arguments against his theory or any valid criticism, only the people being blatantly rude

[@SamuelDoherty]

@@arstotzkanplaguedoctor and then he said someone said John had misrepresented the books in his theories... Didn't even justify why that person was wrong just said people think John misrepresented the books.

[@TangleHamain]

Ive never believed that Gregory was a robot so thanks for this vid!

[@lilwoofs]

Soemthing I had been thinking about, sense I finished ruin is that maybe (if the golden duo theory is actually correct) Cassie and Gregory are meant to represent both Cassidy and crying child, but with their personalities reversed? There’s all the reasons people compare Gregory to crying child, and honestly I don’t have much evidence like that for Cassie expect that her name sounds really similar to Cassidy. But thinking about it Cassie acts way more like crying child (even though she’s not afraid of the animatronics) she is shown crying, and being overall lonely, especially on her birthday (based on what roxy said). And Gregory would definitely be closer to Cassidy’s vengeful personality than to the crying child. Of course this would need for the golden duo theory to actually be right, and even then it could easily be coincidence, but it’s fun to think about! I definitely don’t think they are Cassidy and the crying child, but maybe they could represent them! Loved your video too!

[@titan7789]

Thank you for pointing out that if he was controlled by Glitchtrap, he would probably be also related to the text anyway, it's something i talked about in my video and i have never seen it get adressed a lot lol. And i agree with it being...really hard to prove they are not a robot, since the burden of proof should fall on the person saying they are NOT a human. The only piece of evidence going against that is sadly scrapped, when Freddy scanned Gregory's blood(Charlie's for example was recognized as movie blood i think? So yeah) Now for another thing...At this point i think MatPat just likes to bring up a robot theory in every single video probably because it's controversial and brings views. I mean...try to find a recent video of his WITHOUT him mentioning robot humans(even if you do, it seems more rare lol) Or maybe he REALLY wants to predict one lol. Or both.

[@fruitfruitfederation3932]

I remember the thing that always bugged me the hardest about the robot theory was trying to use the crt effect from vanny as evidence. At the time there was no optical transponder but there still were those sound based illusion chips. Vannys clearly using tech to discombobulate the machines around her, the chips have been shown to do that. She's trying to catch gregory so i dont think it's a stretch to say she could be using them exactly as we see in gameplay to disorent and spook him. And like maybe this is just the artist in me but a crt effect is a pretty good effect to say 'hey something is disorienting and interfering with you' without being an effect that actually mimics real disorientation cause those make people really sick in a hurry. If the art design was supposed to be hinting at being a robot i think something more mimicking issues you'd have with modern cameras/displays then an old tv set. like i don't think the effect is deliberate enough to be a hint like that.

[@times2die]

i love when people tear gregbot to shreds. it's my most hated fnaf theory of all time because it fundamentally ruins my favorite fnaf character, so i thank you for this. fuck gregbot

[@xharerae]

with Nightmarionne plushies being placed all around the pizzaplex, watching over Gregory(CC stand-in) by a Charlie-stand-in(everything according to the video), this REALLY reminds me of CC being followed by Plushbear in FNAF 4 minigames. Could this perhaps mean that Plushbear may be possessed by Charlie? But then that would imply that she was killed the first. I don't know what, but something feels off about it. Definitely not Afton's lack of motivation to kill her(Scott is basically throwing the fact that Afton is a psycho into our faces at this point, ever since The Silver Eyes came out), but something just doesn't seem right.

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

Funny how Matt Patt says to not think like an S, yet this whole Gregbot theory is him thinking like an S. Also, I don't think that S and N thing is that true. At least for me, as I'm "said to be an S" yet I think like an N. I guess that's the FNaF effect, am I right?

[@Jamfrog35]

This is a solid theory...but my question is how in the world would Gregory be able to play the VR headset game if it wasn't release to the public yet?

[@brensnorf]

glitchtrap could have slipped into some released copies of the game, or there could be ways glitchtrap can possess people that we don't know about

[@SamuelDoherty]

The ending of the bb's adventure game in security breach implies that glitchtrap takes over the player due to them having to follow a purple path to get the ending

[@ov-103]

i’m quite tired of all this madness since the new era started, so let me just… put my feelings out here. (none of this is meant to be combative @ you though. you’re cool) - the vision thing likely had nothing to do with the vanni mask or the chip. it’s a visual effect simply for gameplay purposes. with steel wool’s track record, i just don’t buy that they had ruin’s plot and gameplay planned out when writing and making security breach. - gregory “acting robotic” in the game is bad writing, and in the book, probably trauma if not glitchtrap. - the SL room in SB is probably just an easter egg, put in for fans to find and decode for fun. it likely doesn’t mean anything. - the puppet imagery is likely also just an easter egg - the puppet is a deeply loved character from the first year of fnaf’s existence. people just like to see it. - the “glitchtrap was the mimic the WHOLE TIME!!!” thing just massively throws a wrench in everything. it has been made abundantly clear that steel wool didn’t really have this planned and tried to bandage a broken bone using the books and ruin. - the “broken” thing was more than likely just to keep the game kid safe, and show freddy’s personality as, y’know, A Robot. ok rant over. ty for reading if you got this far

[@kianrodriguez4455]

To add to your last statement of the Broken line, I believe there was a cut line that mentioned blood but because of the rating and stuff, they cut it out and replaced it with that. So yeah, just a bit of extra info there Also I agree that the Mimic being GT was not planned at all but I much prefer it over it being Afton coming back (even tho the point of Fnaf 6 is that everyone from what I would call the old era finally dies)

[@ov-103]

@@kianrodriguez4455 yeee that cut line was what i was thinkin of 🤝 and yeah, i can see why afton coming back can be annoying. for a while i was on team “get this guy outta here,” but my best friend pointed out recently that “always coming back” is like… THE iconic horror movie trope, especially with slashers. they always come back in one way or another, sometimes inexplicably even, but that’s the fun of it. so yeah. i’m fine with afton continuing to exist in some form. i just wish it had been as glitchtrap only LOL

[@ElijahEverett-de6pv]

Just remember it was just a theory A GAAAAAAMMME THEORY AAAAAAAAANND CUT

[@bionuvanui3142]

Cave Johnson and MatPat: The solution... robots! (Endo bangs head with frying pan ) Then fire the guys who built those robots, then build better robots. Hyper Droid did a modern timeline a few days ago, showing Gregory as a human corrupted by the Mimic via the Balloon World arcade cabinet, then freed by Cassie.

[@tanishamuntslag6369]

I tend to ignore fnaf theories nowadays as i just want to enjoy the game with references that are just meant to be little nods to the previous games instead of being bombarded with theories that comb through the smallest details

[@ooaktree]

As a matpat fan, huge respects

[@BossKnight]

18:48 you can most litterally not discern if the hair style is the same, one is a 3D model and the other is a low detail sprite

[@pablotamayo5610]

my main problem with the video is how it despicts the mbti. I have been very deeply into MBTI and using it as an argument for its video is missing in A LOT of key aspects of it, as well as not taking into account that mbti has been heavily critized for multiple reasons. Yeah im an infj, yeah an intj, whatever, most people do it on 16p that is as accurate as measuring a wall with human feet

[@memesarekeem]

24:41 While I agree with your conclusion, but you've sort of already answered your question. William wouldn't have made Gregbot a perfect replica of his son because his son's original traits are what got him killed. Gregory is, as you stated, almost the exact opposite to the Crying Child. Gregory is assertive, bossy, and rude. These are all things the Crying Child is not, and the Crying Child had these traits, he wouldn't have died. He died specifically because he was an easy target for a meaner older brother.

[@lio5693]

take a shot everytime you hear the word robot

[@draguladriver]

in my opinion, in the fnaf universe the "robot theory" for any character is just a character-specific equivalent of those old "The game was all a dream!" theories. and the "why does he see static around vanny" just doesn't make any sense, that's like asking "well why can gregory see a big sprint bar below his vision?!" it's just a visual design choice. it's part of the game, not gregory's vision lol

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

The thing with dream theories is that they make everything meaningless, the story meant nothing and theorizing is pointless because anything can happen. A human being a robot doesn't change much. Weve been caring about the feelings and personalities of fictonal animatronics for years, why does that suddenly change just because one was disguised as a human?

[@jhunt7235]

You know what? Your rebuttal makes a lot of sense. Although I feel that many parts of the Matt's evidence hold some water as a whole sum, your counter evidence is incredibly compelling. Also, I am just thankful that you respectfully rebutted his arguments with your own rather than just grabbing a pitchfork and hating on MatPat out of personal grudges rather than countering evidence. You, my friend, have my deep respect.

[@arianae7239]

Thank you for your balanced analysis. I do believe that when the video was produced, it was a valid theory. Horrible, yes, robot kids suck, but not deserving of such hatred and being boiled down to the one graphic. Because FNAF IS insane, it has really weird stuff, robot kids aren't much of a stretch, however, I am much happier with the continued discrediting of this theory as it sucks. tldr: don't hate on people who make controversial theories just because it would suck if it was cannon, respectfully disprove the logic instead.

[@drewthedweeeb]

Nice video! Glad you came up in my recommended feed

[@sillysnowmenn]

7:45 i feel like this is right, someone is probably recording whatever he’s done just like what something did in the note room, writing down thoughts and sights

[@brunoarnoni]

I liked your take in this debate. I just wanted to say that the bot family has more things indicating intention in paralleling the Afton family than that being just an accident from the person trying to recreate a family. There is something I would like to say to MatPat, but I couldn't do a video about it. Basically, his theory can be proved right, but as your video said, it can not be proven wrong. And I don't think this is a problem by itself, we are not making scientific theories, and the FNAF universe itself has shown us that these indistinguishable androids are this way by design. My conclusion, that I would like that the Game Theory team would consider, is that it is very dangerous to keep that baseline in future theories. I honestly think that even if Gregbot was true, the community response might have had implications in the development of the story and I don't think Scott would admit it, just like Dream Theory. And as this can't be totally debunked, there is the possibility that this would lead to nowhere. That being said, I believe Gregbot is overall good and I could see the story going that way.

[@sabre3923]

FNAF Help Wanted 2 True Ending Gregory is a robot

[@brensnorf]

haha, if only spoilers if you're just kidding and haven't seen the actual ending yet but i'm shocked gregory doesn't show in the game. I guess he's mentioned by Roxy in the repair mini game, but yeah

[@times2die]

@@brensnorf ggy is also mentioned as an achievement

[@WinginWolf]

Perhaps Gregory is not CC, but is supposed to represent his foil.

[@piyodsbl1900]

15:46 Personality database is sobbing into a corner upon seeing 16p again

[@CookieCookGames]

I don’t think Gregory is a robot rather I think he has a vanni mask on in security breach

[@Expiredbeans6]

interesting video i love how you see the story of fnaf SC seeing this video though me to kind of see both sides of a theory before i believed that Gregory was a robot although i still believe it i can totally see why people think he is not a robot. anyways great vid keep up the good work

[@1gengabe]

MatPat had his mind taken over by AI

[@zabianreubens4989]

Personal opinion about the post it note room: (Typing this before i watch the vid fully) If we were to go with the whole "Burntrap was mimic" Approach then one could argue that the room was where the mimic had learnt about things (As in the books the mimic started mimicking a child) Which likely lead into afton which could explain the recreation of the family likely the mimic trying to recreate what it mightve known from afton with the knowledge available (Which would explain various things such as ballora being there)

[@vanyadolly]

I don't know why MatPat needs there to be so many robot children in this ghost story.

[@yourmajestysilveroftherats4609]

Some additions I thought of... not sure what my point is (it's 4am sorry if this makes no sense) End of night fnaf 4 minigames: toy chica's beak, foxy's face, fredbear following you around. No Bonnie ref but... well... yeah. Plus the headless springlock could be fredbear or spring bonnie. Which works pretty well with the whole Malhare (Glitchtrap is stupid, fight me) vs Glam freddy and springtrap vs golden freddy thing.

[@Jacobflamecaster]

Your thumbnail art is great 👍

[@georgelongcoal1117]

This is good but I have a problem with this. When and how did glitchtrap/afton/purple fuckery get a hold of gregory? Wasn't Vanessa possessed due to testing the VR game? How would gregory get access to a game in beta That may or may not have been released? I guessmaybe the player in help wanted IS gregory? Idk anymore...

[@brensnorf]

either the game did release with glitchtrap loose in some copies (it's thought the VR game was how fazbear raised the funds to build the pizzaplex in the first place). others have pointed out that maybe glitchtrap could take people over through the arcade games in the pizzaplex

[@georgelongcoal1117]

@@brensnorf Wait, would that mean we have like a 100 glitchtraps on the loose or smth? That would actually be terrifying💀

[@rowandunning6877]

im sorry but "robot kids are the red scare of the fnaf lore." is f&@#!ing fantastic

[@azimuddin1890]

Being honest, I just want the truth being the lore, at least 1-7, so the new games lore can be focued more.

[@Parasolhyena]

10:50 would you count the kid that switched with the plush and the plush blends in with the family perfectly or would the be more like the animatronics crawling into mike.

[@GalaticJackalope]

That last section where you say that Gregory and the crying child act different you are maybe not considering the fact that remanent, Is not just 1 fits all there are supposedly different types, And the child souls are like all of it in one place, But if something practically bad happens lets say- Your father lets you die, experiments on your dead body, and buries you where no one will ever find you, You'd probably turn pretty angry too and anger stronger fear. Some other points is While Some things don't line up in the fnaf universe 1-1 that's because the story is not being worked on by many more people and only overseen by scott and even when it was just scott not everything lined up perfectly, So small details may not seem to matter any more when you get the general idea. And if they were in the face " THIS IS THE CRYING CHILD" "VANNY IS A ROBOT" "FREEDY IS MIKE" That defeats the whole (Infuriating) Purpose of the fnaf story. I like the symbolic theory more tho and have come to some ideas about the new story due to a more symbolic meaning of the game, Instead of literal dead kids- It could be ghosts in the machines being connected to the mimic causes you to learn things you don't want to or do things you don't intend to do I.E Acting more robotic, Lashing out at a child when you are suppose to help them ( The robots) And in the ruin game You see the robots( The floor mop bots scream as you turn them off, And roxy stops being violent suddenly and even breaks her own programing to turn back on to fight the mimic for you) have extremally human traits i think this new arc isnt about literal kids dying I think its about " Ghosts in the machines" They learned so much from bits and pieces and broke free of their normal constraints to have free thought, And are " Real" You destroy 3 robots, Burn Afton, And take Freddie's head That's 5 " Souls" While Freddy is alive the symbolic nature of you taking his head could imply he is the different one like golden Freddy where golden Freddy bit the crying child's head and was able to do things others couldn't Like fight the virus even if it was in safe mod, You have a " Gifter " Of life the mimic giving the "Souls" To the animatronics, and the destroyer of life, Most likely Vanny in this scenario while unsure if she has killed anyone yet its very clear she wants to kill you in the game. But This is super loose idea, And over all what It seems to be like due to the new games being all about the Virtual world that this idea came to me. ( TLDR: I like your video Lol)

[@sweetbnuy]

Im still waiting for Steel Wool to make it even more obvious that the theory of gregbot is real- honestly, i believe it from the very first time. I don't know why people are still screaming about it

[@ExodaCrown]

You summarized Mat's Gregbot theory wrong, he never stated that he was built by Afton or as a replacement for the crying child. Met does say that Gregory is a stand in for the CC in the story. I wouldn't say Mat described Gregbot was built to replace CC, but a stand in for him in the story narratively. We have no idea who built Gregbot, which is a major reason why I don't believe the theory. Mat believes it answers a lot of questions while I think it just replace some questions with different questions. That combine with the strongest evidence for Gregbot being the static vision, which could be a game mechanic. Since Vanny doesn't make noise or have loud foot steps to alert the player she is getting closer. Overall, we have the same take on the evidence about Gregbot.

[@Flugel_Pendragon]

Why is it that so many people hate this yet were sooo ready to except Mary Sue mimic and Afron's nightmare gass (that second thing only really exists cause people hate the illusion disc)

[@brensnorf]

well keep in mind, people aren't denying charliebot. they're denying gregbot. unlike gregbot, charliebot, the nightmare gas, and the mimic being the main villain are all things directly stated in the books. so to answer your question, gregbot is never directly stated anywhere. if anything, it's only implied if you believe the evidence for it-- evidence which could be faulty, or could mean something else entirely

[@Takejiro24]

If it helps, I like none of those either. I've always disliked the idea that the FNAF 4 Nightmares are experiments and not just......nightmares. Michael/FoxyBro being the one to have them is fine by me. The nightmares being experiments just seems needlessly convoluted. The Mimic (from what I can gather in online discourse as I'm still trying to get through the Tales book) is just Kirkland Signature William Afton. Why not just have William himself back if the villain you're going to replace him with is going to do the same things as him but with none of the relevant character depth and history? I don't really like GregBot as it currently stands because the narrative foundation it needs to be meaningful just isn't there and would come off as a plot twist just for the sake of it. CharlieBot had the same problem.

[@Flugel_Pendragon]

@Takejiro24 I agree with you on the mimic thing. I don't understand why people like the mimic acting like William based off everything it learned, but having none of his motivation for the things he does, but hate glitchtrap (what was supposed to be a digital recreation of William's consciousness) downloading itself into William's corpse cause over time it began to believe it was the real William

[@chauli6014]

No matter what, yer probably right , after seeing the reaction of people to that theory, they probably wont do that shit for now. in other words, if it was real, it isn't any more, they are going to retcon that part.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

The reason I've inclined to believe gregbot is that i just dont get gregory. I'd be perfectly fine of gregory was just some random kid, theres no reason regular people shouldn't get involved with fazbear shenanigans, but hes not. Hes a hacker, has super human strength, is possibly a killer, he's a tratior, and calling himself dr rabbit meant he had to be involved with fazbear's somehow. It just didnt seem possible that gregory was just a normal kid. I like the glitchtrap chip theory, but it raises the same questions. When, why, and how did gregory get chipped? What makes him so special?

[@connormarchand6302]

One problem I aways had with Gregory being the cause of the pizzaria shutting down was why? Why do It and If It was because of glitchtrap than It seem like he should be to blame any ways great vid

[@SpyDoTF2]

5:59 roxy's eyes give you see trough vision and not x ray vision, i think hes reffering to some an item that is behind gregory

[@BossKnight]

9:58 99% sure those were incluided cause people "debunked" the theory by saying you could tell or saying it wouldn't be possible or doesn't happen, including the proof that says Robot Children exist when saying a character is a robot child is fairly important

[@AtheAnt128]

you forgot a piece of evidence at the start Gregory says thatabout vanessa to freddy that: "She's not going to let you call for help until she finds me!" This paralells the line in fnaf 4: "He won't stop until you find him" That line is Psychic Friend Fredbear saying to the crying child about Michael in the foxy mask thats obv for the connection to afton family I don't believe Gregbot, but I want to hear your interpritation on it

[@brensnorf]

"broken" is a very specific word choice which is why I kinda get it, but that line is like... feels a little stretchy. Idk, I feel like that's a piece of evidence not strong enough worth analyzing but, if i'm to draw some meaning out of it, just add it to the pile of CC symbolism, in that situation Vanessa represents the "monster" of his situation, like Mike was the "monster" of CC's situation, both turning to their bear friends for help

[@AtheAnt128]

That makes sense. Ngl, I actually wrote that comment before I finished the vid, and got to the CC connections part. Even though it's loose, FNaF is a game to be picked apart and put pack together isn't it? I'd rather go down an unintenional red herring than just dismiss something potentionally important.

[@BasicViewer]

I don't agree with some of the theories presented, but I certainly appreciate that you pointed out the clear flaws in Gregbot.

[@sena19.mp4]

I always thought the gregbot theory was weird but your theory and one of ryetoasts theories is what made me reallyyy dislike it cause i like the possibility of gregory being ggy and being controlled by the mimic better for the story

[@phoneguy4637]

I was already strictly against the robot theory when I remembered the original textlines of Glamrock Freddy he used when he brought Gregory to the first aid station. his original line was: "Gregory, I can sense that you are bleeding." Robots do not bleed. they leak at best.

[@Mlchii]

In the books the robots do bleed tho

[@pokemario112]

Gregbot is a flawed theory based off evidence we had in Security Breach and I understand why Matt went with that because a lot of evidence pointed towards a robot in the pizzaplex learning to exist which now would be very obviously the mimic and he tried to answer that question mark with the information he had.

[@DecoderWalrus]

Robot. Kid. Intervention.

[@josecampos5079]

Send this to matpat

[@A.B.-ub9un]

The idea of Gregory being "symbolically" filling in the Crying Childs role doesn't make any sense and doesn't work from a thematic level. The Crying Child was never the catalyst for the original story. It was never stated as such anywhere. It was a catalyst for MICHAEL'S story, but not Williams. And also, the idea of the newer characters just "symbolically" representing the older ones feels cheap and lazy to me. Why not just bring these older characters back? Or better yet, just make something completely new and different? Why do these newer characters need to be exactly like the older ones?

[@brensnorf]

fair enough. I explain it better in that symbolism-specific video, but long story short, the symbolic repetition of characters may play into the themes of corporate greed and cycles this story has. showing how, when the villains (Fazbear Entertainment) are given the freedom to rewrite history, the same tragedies will continue to repeat themselves

[@A.B.-ub9un]

@@brensnorf The issue is that Henry and William created the company, but as soon as the murders happened, William was cut ties with it. So who is running the show here exactly? The idea of corporations being greedy and evil is usually there to tell us something about the people running it. But here... the company's just.. evil... for the sake of it. I don't know, it feels like a dumb excuse to justify lazy and terrible writing in the lore.

[@chaoraiser2338]

honestly you bring up good points and you right but i'd be lying if i said i didn't think you just chose game theory because it would get more views lol also i like to think that the bidybabs are basically robot children but like that like charlie or a gregbot just robot baby's ig baby's or toddlers

[@brensnorf]

well, you're not wrong, having matpat's name in the thumbnail does wonders for views, but you also can't deny that Gregbot and the Game Theorists go hand in hand. to have a video on it and not involve Matpat's theory would be silly

[@quietcontraire]

I'm a bit lost... how did you figure Gregory to be trapped in Balloon World? I can see the Vanessa to Princess Quest connection just fine, but what does Ballon Boy have to do with being connected to the symbolism of the Crying Child?

[@brensnorf]

so, in RUIN, the Princess Quest 3 machine, in the AR world, has special particles that seem to be coming out of the screen of the arcade cabinet. the only other arcade machine that has these particles is balloon world. if the particles around PQ3 are meant to signify that someone recently got released from the machine, a similar thing could be true with Balloon World. furthermore, in the base game, it's clear somebody has been living in the balloon world room, and the drawings around the room have a similar style to gregory's drawings-- one of which even has a drawing of a kid that looks similar to gregory anyways, it's not supposed to be a CC connection, it connects to the alternate explanation I give for gregory's "robotic behavior", where he's controlled by Glitchtrap like vanessa was

[@Wizardjones69]

I think matpat is a robot kid in 🗿🗣🗣🗣🗣