Death as a Moral Necessity

[@SargonofAkkad]

My reading of the Popul Vuh can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWiWc4SfeaeNhNE

[@stevealford230]

YOU'RE a Popul Vuh!

[@starc.]

Consent is the litmus test of morality and the foundation of morality is The Law

[@starc.]

The Law is Free Will The First Protector of The Law is Freely Given Consent The First Violation of The Law is Theft of Consent

[@naturalisted1714]

Would like to hear your thoughts on David Benatar's book "Better Never To Have Been". He's the leading voice of antinatalism: the idea that it's immoral to have kids, because to do so subjects them to the suffering of life... But my criticism of the idea that it's better to not exist is: I already didn't exist, yet (to use Benatar's language) a life was still imposed. And so, if not existing didn't stop this life from being imposed, and not existing didn't stop any of the billions of lives that has ever existed on Earth, then why would not existing via not being born suddenly have the ability to stop some other life from being the one to do "the Imposition of a life "? Clearly, not existing cannot have the quality of being "better" if not existing wasn't able to stop a life from doing "the Imposition" (for every life that has ever lived). Even if the universe were to end right now, there'd still be no way to appreciate that lack of conscious experience, making such a point moot. Without the ability to appreciate your own lack of existing, how can one say not existing is better or preferable?

[@SnlDrako]

Off the deepend, are we?

[@ng855]

“Some of you may die But it is a sacrifice I am willing to make”

[@domino4843]

I see what you did there.

[@jsbrads1]

-Lord Farquad

[@captainmaim]

Zap Brannigan had a similar philosophy.

[@Wolf-oc6tx]

@@captainmaim And Marx took it to levels that zap would be sickened by.

[@nyrtzi]

The basic line of so many villains in stories both old and new... and even better with paired up with "For Science (tm)."

[@limabravo6065]

And the people who think the Spanish steam rolled through the Aztecs with a few thousand guys armed with primitive muzzle loaders, do not understand the discontent felt by all tribes not Aztec who were being sacrificed to ensure the sun's rise among other things. The Spanish saw their hatred of the Aztec's and said "Hey we're gonna go take them out, wanna come with?" And those non Aztec native peoples said "take out the Aztec? Yeah we're in"

[@rgama1173]

Not only that. The entire pantheon needed human sacrifices to sustain the universe. But the single god of the foreigners can not only do the same with no sacrifices required

[@CatWithAHat2HD]

This is a bit confused a take. On the one hand: yes, Cortes' campaign against the Aztecs was more an incitement of a rebellion, and taking advantage of the ensuing chaos, than a war. But on the other hand it's not like the Aztecs were particularly extraordinary in their human sacrifice performing. That was kind of the norm in the region, probably since the Olmecs. Meaning for as long as there's been civilization in Mezoamerica that we know of. The Aztecs weren't an empire of bloodthirsty monsters surrounded by fluffy, innocent victims; they were the currently most successful of the more or less equivalently fucked groups in the area. . In their defense, it's not like human sacrifice was unheard of in the Old World. It just went out of fashion on one of the continents, but not the other. My (admittedly very basic) understanding of the history of Judaism is that it is currently believed that Yahwe was likely a god you'd actually sacrifice your firstborn son to, unironically. Though this is ofc speculation based on the sort of practices common in the region at the time, and textual analysis of religious texts. At some point that idea was reformed into the sacrifice of a lamb *in lieu* of a person. And Christianity builds (kinda massively) on that whole theme with the idea that 1) God Himself sacrificed His own son/Himself for us 2) that is the new form of sacrifice everyone is meant to partake in now, by seeking out and embracing suffering and self destruction for the benefit of others. So it's also about mass human sacrifice, just in a very roundabout way.

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

What a staggeringly ignorant assessment of the Spanish conquest of the aztecs

[@limabravo6065]

@@Dionaea_floridensis did the other native peoples in that region not join up with the Spanish when it came time to make them go away?

[@zexfafa2794]

​@@rgama1173Christian God also requiers sacrifices, only diffrence is the sacrifice has been payed by our God.

[@NakedOwl501]

"I wouldn't even sacrifice you."

[@BudgiePanic]

I understood that reference

[@pumacheyenne6823]

😂

[@lothos-tu4uh]

😂

[@uberpwner48]

Legend.

[@soundscape9185]

Hate speech! Reeeeeeeeeeee!

[@yaboiportch]

Carl going from his 2010's liberal skipticism to his 2020's "liberalism is a death cult" has been a hell of a journey

[@angrydachshund]

Indeed. As they say, "Christianity is a life cult masquerading as death cult; Leftism is a death cult masquerading as a life cult."

[@Xplora213]

Arguably he was never in favour of liberalism in the first place, just that he didn’t have the words to articulate his position. You really don’t gain a respect for life and the dignity of self determination through growth as a person. The nihilist doesn’t change his spots. We just didn’t realise how much losers were allowed to speak until the internet let every person be heard.

[@rushthezeppelin]

No joke eh, I've been along for the ride and it's been great. Carl probably played a small part in me being a traditionalist Catholic now.

[@guymontag162]

It’s been a bumpy ride.

[@SentientMeatloaf1]

@@rushthezeppelinkinda funny considering his atheistic stance.

[@chriswatson276]

Rush Limbaugh always called abortion a feminist sacrament.

[@smileyglitter852]

@chriswatson276 more like a feminist mandate, it puts the sole responsibility on the women. They should create a pill for men, but radical feminist stop it...

[@Nightstalker314]

Rush Limbaugh was a fearmongerer for his own good & fortune.

[@JesusFriedChrist]

Feminist, yes. Et ergo leftist. Et ergo NOT LIBERAL. Et ergo, the OPPOSITE of liberal.

[@eddysgaming9868]

Rush was prescient in many of his observations.

[@JesusFriedChrist]

This entire video (and Carl’s political ponderings as of late) can be summarized as: _“Liberal bad”, and here’s my reasoning and evidence_ *[example that is opposite of liberal].*

[@LucVNO]

I was a lefty right until I was literally on the edge of death, staring off the edge in the depths of a vicious drug addiction.... In that moment, I could see how my choices for near 2 decades up to that point had all been choices for death, the very death I was facing. I chose life & I kept choosing it with every following choice forward. My life was back in order within a few months, drug addiction left behind without much struggle. It was crazy how easy it was to fix myself & my life once I understood the true gravity of every choice. In all our acts, we make our choice for life or death. Choose wisely, friends.

[@ciscornBIG]

Well stated. Thank you for sharing and bless you.

[@mylesmw]

Hear, hear. Glad you're still with us!

[@thomaslacroix6011]

Will isn't inhibited by reality. It's inhibited by ego first and foremost.

[@trequor]

The choice seems so easy when presented this way. One side worships death. The other, life.

[@maddestlad3868]

Thanks for sticking around

[@benjaminl429]

"Once upon a time, long, long ago, there lived in a valley far, far away in the mountains, the most contented kingdom the world had ever known. It was called 'Happy Valley', and it was ruled over by a wise old king called Otto. And all his subjects flourished and were happy, and there were no discontents or grumblers, because wise King Otto had had them all put to death along with the trade union leaders many years before. And all the good happy folk of Happy Valley sang and danced all day long. And anyone who was for any reason miserable or unhappy or who had any difficult personal problems was prosecuted under the 'Happiness Act'." The current state of things as predicted by Monty Python back in 1972.

[@Planeet-Long]

They should probably call it the "Happiness Protection Act" because oftentimes these tyrannical laws use the term "protection" in the title.

[@FredScuttle456]

From memory, Otto had wooden teeth, despite the fire risk. The teeth came from Augsburg.

[@stechuskaktus8318]

Also reminds me of a Doctor Who episode in which bots eliminated everyone who wasn't happy enough because they thought it was a desease that spreads.

[@ImCarolB]

@@FredScuttle456 It was his daughter, Mitzi Gaynor, who had the wonderful teeth.

[@FredScuttle456]

@@ImCarolB I long for the return of the Piranha Brothers. They should invite Khan into their conversation pit.

[@rahn45]

"I'm pro-choice!" "Can I chose to keep the kid?" "Why would you even do that?"

[@spy-v-spy1848]

There is only pro abortion & anti abortion in my book pro life & pro choice are the same thing.

[@IbnRushd-mv3fp]

@spy-v-spy1848 if you're gonna defend an industry built on profit driven killing of lower life forms then you are not on the right side of history.

[@smileyglitter852]

​@@spy-v-spy1848I've been saying that for years, the right pro baby and left Anti- baby...When it comes to caring for the baby the right doesn't want programs....When it comes to choice the left are only okay if it's government approved..

[@level9drow856]

Pro-choice means the individual has the choice to have the child or not. Traditionally within reason.

[@--------RR007----------]

@@level9drow856 You missed the point. Not smart.

[@LiamLoves]

Kind of like antinatalism. We suffer, therefore we ought not be.

[@alkebabish]

I heard a liberal say that he didn't consent for God to create him 🤣

[@nicholashodges201]

​@@alkebabish yet they refuse to put themselves out of our misery. I find it very telling that they are somehow *never included* in these "degrowth" plans, despite being the only ones that think there's a "population crisis"

[@gabrielclark1425]

"Heroes are forged in agony"

[@ghoulbuster1]

Followers of chaos.

[@Nickreading1984]

​@@nicholashodges201I'm not a lefty or an antinatalist, but that's still a true statement. People do not consent to existing in the first place.

[@amilcare4901]

I've noticed that they sacrifice mostly others, not themselves. Guess enlightenment gets a slightly different meaning, if you're asking the question to whom they sacrifice.

[@wrongthinker843]

"Mostly" being 100%

[@godassasin8097]

it is kinda a fallacy to say this the ones who sacrificed themselves are dead already the ones who sacrifice others are all that are left

[@SevScout]

@@godassasin8097 That last part gives a different vibe to "leftism".

[@CatWithAHat2HD]

"Civilization of death" is what the catholic theologians/intellectuals call it (since John Paul II coined the term in the early 90s I believe). It has been very entertaining to watch you become more and more conservative over the years. Can you imagine Gamergate radical centrist Sargon of Akkad condemning a culture of normalized abortion?

[@Xplora213]

He has not changed. It’s just become clear that the more extreme elements of the left have been allowed to guide the debate to the point where they look like monsters.

[@robosoldier11]

I personally didn't really pay attention to politics in that era. So i cant really say. I do however know that it very much could've ended up in the other camp. By that I mean for example our totally not insane pal Destiny was more conservative back in the day. To the point he made the choice to keep his son rather then make the abortion choice. Now today? He unironically went on a podcast not too long ago and said if he had more pro abortion stance he has today. His son, whose name is Nathan, whose around eleven years old. He said he would've made the choice he never would've existed. Thats beyond disgusting. So glad to see Sargon came about in a good way.

[@CatWithAHat2HD]

@@robosoldier11 I don't know of a better anti-abortion argument than hearing your parent tell you they've considered aborting you, or that they've aborted another of their children, but not you.

[@robosoldier11]

@@CatWithAHat2HD indeed. I got a funny feeling if not already. That destiny’s kid is either gonna resent him or just choose not be involved in his life. Especially it seems the guy treats him already.

[@CatWithAHat2HD]

@@robosoldier11 I don't know Destiny beyond the fact he's someone who's made it his career to debate people in public, which I find fundamentally wicked tbh. Debates are about manipulating the audience and nothing more. But that's not really the point. The point is I hope he has a great relationship with his kid.

[@Adam-d4w]

"Life is pain, Highness; anyone who says otherwise is selling something," the Dread Pirate Roberts, 'The Princess Bride'

[@Kanaleah]

"I don’t think man was meant to attain happiness so easily. Happiness is like those palaces in fairy tales whose gates are guarded by dragons: we must fight in order to conquer it." "Those born to wealth, and who have the means of gratifying every wish, know not what is the real happiness of life, just as those who have been tossed on the stormy waters of the ocean on a few frail planks can alone realize the blessings of fair weather." "There is neither happiness nor misery in the world; there is only the comparison of one state with another, nothing more. He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness." Three of my favorite quotes from The Count of Monte Cristo.

[@Cloud_Seeker]

Isn't it funny how "my body my choice" went way so fast during the pandemic? So when we are talking about another life, it is their choice. When we talk about my life and no one else, it is still their choice.

[@njbrx]

Yup

[@jeffkeenan5059]

Seat belt law didn’t kick in that reasoning?

[@Born_Stellar]

@@jeffkeenan5059 well to some degree a seatbelt can prevent your body from becoming a projectile, so no.

[@jeffkeenan5059]

@@Born_Stellar , it’s my body and if I choose to go through the windshield of my car. that’s my CHOICE

[@gabrielrousseau_NM]

Makes a person wonder so much more what pizza shop basements many of the immigrants will end up in.

[@simlucien]

"History uses men and discards them." -Core belief of leftism

[@mayanboricua]

That was the brilliant Occultist Hegel, who came up with the NeoPlatonic Dialectic. Master of Feuerbach and KARL MARX

[@braydoxastora5584]

History of leftism is the opposite of this but go on you were trying to sound wise without thinking about what you were saying

[@joshuatoms7664]

​@braydoxastora5584 Oh yeah? The collectivist bullshit it has shoveled onto the populace for the last 150 years is just us imagining it?

[@PhyllisLane-xj5uf]

​@@braydoxastora5584Read your own philosophers. You might be shocked. Hegel and Marx aren't your friends. But they are your masters.

[@sigurdholbarki8268]

​@@braydoxastora5584well I'm sure you can address the quote, tell us where it actually comes from and argue how the point is incorrect. That's what a wise person would do, I notice you didn't do that

[@earnestbrown6524]

Planned Parenthood the High Priests keeping the Gods happy.

[@freeman37]

#satan

[@malcolmapplet4313]

Just the name alone... it's so misleading. Then there's the whole backstory and the "let's clamp down on blxxks procreating" theme. Of course the whole crooked cross is picked up and carried by the "guess whos".

[@mayanboricua]

#Osiris #Quetzocoatl Order of the Serpent (G) Brotherhood of the Dragon

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

demons*

[@TurtleChad1]

People always like to talk about a certain event in WW2 but never talk about the current tragedy of abortion.

[@DABK2024]

The American Holocaust

[@ABeautifulHeartBeat]

Million a year

[@duncefunce1513]

I hear about it quite a bit

[@tonyrmathis]

And they don't like to talk about the millions starved living on fertile land they weren't allowed to farm in the name of "fairness".

[@gabenorman747]

They're both immoral for the exact same reasons.

[@aahz42]

Fantastic clip about the Aztecs is the opening part of "Engineering an Empire: Aztecs". A princess marrying the Aztec tribe is instead ritually murdered, her skin flayed and made into a cloak, and the Aztec priest dances in front of the princess's father wearing the daughter's cloak. So enraged, he kicks out the Aztecs, forcing them to seek exile on an island in the middle of the lake, where they see an eagle swoop down to land on a cactus with a snake in its mouth - the coat of arms that is on the flag of Mexico.

[@TheWeebinar]

To paraphrase the great Patrice O'Neal: "It's not your body, it's the baby's body. You're an apartment"

[@kurtilein3]

Baby? What baby?

[@anomonyous]

​@@kurtilein3Never took Latin? Guess not.

[@anomonyous]

​@@kurtilein3If you're going into this argument with zero understanding of what is actually happening and how, then you really ought to look at yourself and ask why you hold certain positions.

[@apokatastasian2831]

based Patrice

[@blueberrymcphuckerson9821]

Tbf, you're low-key _Quote-Mining._ He did say something like that but he was Pro-Choice and dgaf: he just wanted women to be honest with what they're doing (similarly like Bill Burr). Yeah, you can have an abortion - but let's not BS and have it both ways denying you're killing a baby.

[@ZontarDow]

The automodding triggers are getting more bizarre

[@rahn45]

The flags are quite amusing since some posts that I have auto purged are completely benign while the posts from others that are visible are actually spicy.

[@ZontarDow]

@@rahn45 same

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

It's driving me nuts

[@apokatastasian2831]

​@@rahn45i'm convinced you can get yourself into different categories...so the clamps come down easier if you're a troublesome entity

[@nalgene247]

​@@apokatastasian2831 No doubt, that's been my experience too

[@anomonyous]

A "choice" and set of "rights" not afforded to the fathers of these children.

[@danielchen2071]

Technically, if it's purely a woman's right to bear the child without the father's consent, then would that free the father from having pay child support since he didn't have any say in the matter? (I kid, but a valid discussion to have, regardless).

[@chazzmccloud36]

​@danielchen2071 a valid discussion, yes. And that's why it'll never be had, outside of these circles.

[@whytho1690]

@@danielchen2071 Ironic how it's never the flipside having a decision, isn't it? Men's right to choose might be a partial joke, but it's something genuinely serious to consider when you have the flipside of being able to toss the child like a bug even though the father wants to keep them.

[@TGP109]

And yet, more MEN than women support abortion rights in surveys.

[@lifeline_]

"My body my choice" for something that can easily be avoided and most of the time is based on their choice. Drafted Men: "Hey, can we have some of that?"

[@Nightdare]

I used to be pro choice Until I found out abortions were like deciding to go to the McDrive ordering a Big Mac The road from abstinence to abortion still has a good number of stops in between and the exceptions for which one could justify a pregnancy to be ended, PALE in comparison to abortions out of convenience

[@totallyrealnotfakelifeadvi7547]

Who is pro abortion and also pro draft? I have never heard of this viewpoint

[@phonecallsarejustoverquali1556]

@@totallyrealnotfakelifeadvi7547 Its weird, but there are feminists and generally liberals (needless to say they are also pro abortion for the absolute greatest part) that want the draft (or some version thereof) extended to women. They are not pro draft ser se, but they advocate extension of the draft because they see military service (wether drafted or not) as a form of "male privilege". We just had a debate on this in Denmark earlier this year.

[@totallyrealnotfakelifeadvi7547]

@@phonecallsarejustoverquali1556 interesting! I’m a German/USA citizen and I am completely anti draft (but pro abortion when necessary). Neither of the countries I’m a part of has a significant push for women in the draft. To be fair, in some circumstances it does make sense to draft women (in Israel, for example, which is another country I could be a citizen of if I so desired, where everyone is extremely patriotic and views serving as a duty to their 4,000 year old nation) but I always prefer choice whenever possible

[@phonecallsarejustoverquali1556]

@@totallyrealnotfakelifeadvi7547 There are so many interesting aspects in this. 1) From the typical liberal point of view of "individual and hence bodily autonomy", supporting abortion rights and military draft at the same time can seem quite odd. So I thought I'd add a recent real life example of how these thoughts actually coexist and/or collide even in the thinking of the 21st century left and center-left. 2) As for drafting in and of itself, I think the thoughts on it varies a great deal from nation to nation. In Denmark today its very much a symbolic thing. Since the end of WWII, no one has ever been send into an armed conflict (e.g. Kosovo, Irak, Afghanistan etc.) who was not a professional, volunteering with a signed contract. But at the same time, some form of drafting has always been there practically and/or nominally since the 18th century. As it is for Israel, Ukraine, Finland et al. today, back then it was considered a necessity because we had to be prepared to contend with much bigger and sometimes threatening neighbours. Prussia/Germany, Sweden etc. Now we're just basically freeloading under the NATO-umbrella ;) 3) I'm not really anti-abortion either. But I'm quite receptive to the slippery slope argument on this issue (and even more so on euthanasia).

[@mitchwatson6787]

I've been thinking about the use of the term 'Backwards' to describe a culture, and I wonder if its related to these ideas. Functional cultures tend to sacrifice what is personally valuable (time, money, safety) to what is sacred (God, family, fellow man). People in backwards cultures instead sacrifice the sacred to the worldly things they value individually or collectively.

[@ebonifragaria]

"Inverted" works too. When things are upside-down from the way they should be

[@cm3carranza395]

Wow. I never saw it in that perspective. Opened my eyes for sure.

[@manatoa1]

Interesting

[@TheLordUrban]

In the past a person’s child was their greatest treasure and thus a fitting sacrifice. Today unborn children are sacrificed on the altar of convince because there are thought to be worth so little.

[@Jose-yt3qz]

@@TheLordUrban ...while that might be true, there is also another factor. It could be as well because it is their greatest treasure...and you give what has more value... If you value, you give as sacrifice. If it isn't worth, why would you even offer it?

[@seandelap8587]

These are the sort of solo Sargon videos that i missed for a long time great to see that he's focusing more on this sort of content

[@phoivos]

"Why we need a world without borders" is like wanting your house to have no walls And these same people wonder why it's dangerous to walk alone at night in a big city lately, by the way

[@joshuawadsworth6417]

Thats just a mantra the left elites push so they can stay in power from illegal voters

[@jpteknoman]

Up until the mid 90s in my country crime rate was quite low. In the summer we slept outside on yards and balconies with doors and windows open, knowing that the chance of anyone getting into our house was negligible. Then the neighboring communist utopia fell. Until then, as all utopias do, they made sure nobody was allowed to leave and our side, complacent in the fact that the other side kept everyone locked in, never had proper border control... and the floodgates opened. Crime rates skyrocketed overnight and have been going up since. To this day, we never fixed our border problem and now we get more uninvited guests than ever.

[@DatAsianGuy]

a world without borders is impossible, when even mother nature itself has borders. animals have borders and territories. We humans simply have a more advanced, complex and in-depth system of borders compared to other animals. This is something that sometimes hear the idea that borders are unnatural and a human concept, when marking your territories is something animals have done for a long time. in general, a lot of arguments used by such people is based on a false notion that much of human society is "unnatural" or "artificial" when in many ways our society is build upon concept that mother nature has always displayed.

[@RO635mybeloved]

​​@@jpteknomancommunist utopia? My brother is Christ people were starving, millions killed, and hell to pay and you call the USSR a utopia? You don't even have choices there. If you were put into that nation in any time you'd be starving, having to fight for your life, and have police that doesn't even give a shit about you more. Have you seen the amount of false accusations, false convictions, and the amount of corruption in the USSR? There were a lot of it hell a murderer would average 4 kills before getting caught at best or/and not get caught at all were or people getting falsely convicted with false proof that everyone knew wasn't part of the case so common since the cops were so underpaid, starving, rife with corruption, and nothing to incentivize them with. If you think about it, humans are a farce. So hypocritical, and so blind to the harsh truths around them, hiding behind fantasies and escapism. So cowardly as to face the reality of things. In life there's no such a thing as you say. As long as humans exist there can never be a utopia. Utopia is a farce even the dictionary says it. As long as humans exist crime will always be since free will is a thing. There will be some people that don't fear the majority. You can't just force your will under a barrel of a gun. If you do that the next generation would just tear it down seeing the farce that you created. The best you could do is pavlovian condition them, and do a bunch of human rights violations to force your farce into reality. Even then it'll be just that a farce. Even housing in the USSR some people still lived in poverty with a house.

[@jayferguson9968]

And they don't want the police, either.

[@ajs41]

Thanks Carl, nice to see another video from you on here.

[@DwayneThompson22]

It is not about Left and Right, it is about Right and Wrong

[@notasovietspytrustme4392]

Reminds me of the G.K. Chesterton book “The Ball and the Cross’’ where the villain says: “life is sacred, but lives are not”

[@anthonylulham3473]

Sounds like the protagonist tbh

[@Sweetness71775]

"My body, my choice" never made sense to me. A more accurate statement would be "a child's body, my choice" but given how that's the same justification used by PDF Files, welllll... But this realization led me to the conclusion that people advocating for abortion are morally equivalent to PDF Files and when you look at the larger culture, suddenly things make sense.

[@IbnRushd-mv3fp]

That statement is a reach but you are on the right track...

[@Gerbejbin]

@@IbnRushd-mv3fp The difference is the same between rpe and mrdr

[@Harkescreative]

I've come to that conclusion as well. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one.

[@kelly4187]

This is probably part of the reason why there is such a correlation between the left and pdf files.

[@AllenIverson-to5uy]

They think that just because a potential child relies on its mother that it's part of the mother's body.

[@blueshellincident]

"My body my choice." You made the choice to have sex, THAT *was* your choice.

[@wrongthinker843]

Apparently protection is now offensive to YT.

[@jvmango3057]

oh no the consequences of my actions!

[@terrorbilly1]

@@jvmango3057 that's a woman's kryptonite!

[@mikebickle823]

Yep!

[@Nirakolov]

You consent to driving a car, you didn't consent to a car accident

[@AllenIverson-to5uy]

It's self-worship and hedonism.

[@bacht4799]

I keep thinking of The Queer Kiwi.. a KZbinr who said that hedonism is a good thing and should be seen as a virtue…!

[@AllenIverson-to5uy]

@@bacht4799 I've seen some others say that, too. It's such a mask-off moment. Liberalism inevitably leads to hedonism.

[@bacht4799]

@@AllenIverson-to5uy if I may.. don’t quite agreed on that.. I do agree that it’s has this effect on things.. but personally I think it’s question on balance.. it’s like being out in public and you too much of drinking and you peep on someone house or car ect.. if the next day you get a call from that person the first thing you do is apologize and go over to clean the mess you have made.. or something like that…!

[@joshuawadsworth6417]

​@@AllenIverson-to5uy thats more like anarchy

[@johnmacklin8238]

Well said and thought out. To endure is to be alive.

[@violenceislife1987]

Youtbe asked me to rate your comment. Apparently it confused the ai.

[@NullVoid-rm7jm]

Finals, SOMEONE who fucking gets it. Definitely saving this bad boy to watch later tonight

[@namenotavailable]

These short philosophical angles on topics are incredible. Keep them coming. To think we all started by just wanting to play video games now we're talking about death cults.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

I’m so glad that Sargon overcame his problems and never sank into the nonsense that so many other have. He might be an Applebees waiter, but that didn’t stop him from working hard to be a better man. That’s the struggle. That’s a good life.

[@samaelament]

I think "the ends justify the means" is something of a philosophy that everyone at some point needs to grow out of and unfortunately it keeps rearing its head.

[@JasonJrake]

There’s a shiny new version of this held to by a lot of the Silicon Valley wealthy. They talk about decisions that will increase happiness for x people for the rest of history vs choices that lead to y happy people. It is framed as long term philanthropy, but it is really just a steep slippery slope to “the ends justify the means.”

[@kronos661]

There is a degree of truth to this statement but it's not absolute.

[@samaelament]

@@kronos661 Which statement? My comment or "the ends justify the means"?

[@kronos661]

@@samaelament The one about end justifying the means.

[@wrongthinker843]

@@kronos661 I disagree.

[@Snakedude4life]

Anybody else remember Greta saying she would love to turn off peoples gas and electric during winter? 🎩 🐍 no step on snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰

[@violenceislife1987]

I'm glad you reminded me .

[@Jinnyfir]

Death cult mentality

[@mayanboricua]

Batman for President! 🎩 🐍 Ordo ab Chao

[@5persondude]

I’m curious, where’d the “no step on snek” thing originate from? I’ve seen it for years but never knew what it was about, at least originally

[@hissboomcreeperalt1020]

@@5persondude It's a meme about the gadsen flag, just look up "no step on snek" and you'll get exactly what you're looking for.

[@archaeosophy]

The direct connection between the worship of self and the worship of death.

[@PatrickHunter-hz2og]

John Paul II calling it the culture of death is a demonstration of his knowledge of this beast

[@keenanlarsen1639]

this thumbnail goes hard

[@slammer1017]

The opposite of selfish sacrifice is self-sacrifice. Jesus Christ is the ultimate example of this.

[@Bashbekersjiw]

But his a God... what he had sacrified?

[@robosoldier11]

@@Bashbekersjiw his son to endure suffering and death. Which resulted in the resurrection and the ability for us to achieve salvation.

[@Bashbekersjiw]

@@robosoldier11 so there two god

[@robosoldier11]

@@Bashbekersjiw no. It’s one god. Never heard of the trinity?

[@1q34w]

@@Bashbekersjiw He sacrificed a weekend.

[@erbkaiser_]

KZbin put the suicide help info banner on this video lol.

[@Nightdare]

I was wondering what that was doing there

[@wiggawithattitude]

My children being born and my subsequent examination of abortion is what ultimately broke my liberal democratic programming.

[@kimmogensen4888]

In Denmark the extreme right wing liberalism and extreme left wing is revolutionary socialism and communism. Unlike the USA the parliament legislated about abortion and 12 weeks free abortion was the result and has been since, no change of the law is likely, but we still have little to no teenage pregnancy unlike US. The ruling party on the left has many years ago became hardline against migration from none western countries, and we have never allowed illegal migrants to live and work in Denmark, not even EU citizens from Romania which are not ethnic Romania are not allowed to live there traditional way, we have deportation camps which the people who are not welcome are put in for as long as it takes deportation or potentially old age, children born by illegals don’t get citizenship and is not welcome enter. The far left don’t govern and they can complain all they want. All center left and right political parties are not the same globally, but they are different problematic in many English speaking countries.

[@RorytheRomulan]

It is refreshing to hear someone who is pro choice speak candidly and honestly about the life of the unborn child.

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

This guy is pro-choice?

[@tylercochell2253]

I've heard an arguement for abortion that was basically "it is better to never be born than to be born poor". The continuation of that is the story out of Canada where a man asked for MAID because he was worried he was going to be homeless.

[@Nightdare]

A many poor people grew up to do great things for humanity We are all born set up to fail, to succeed is everyone's goal

[@robertlehnert4148]

"There is no true religion without sacrifice"--Mahatma Gandhi.

[@JesusFriedChrist]

There is no reality without suffering. The left wing liberals (that aren’t liberals whatsoever, and are actually the complete antithesis of liberals) that want a leftist utopia, are delusional. They reject reality. Liberals accept reality. Opposites are not the same, they’re the opposite. Reality exists independently to one’s acceptance of it. Carl seems to have a hard time grasping reality here, which is incredibly ironic for a video where he’s, yet again, calling out people that are rejecting reality, all while he rejects reality himself, by failing to differentiate between the exact opposites of the left wing (leftists) and right wing (liberals).

[@danielmaher964]

Self sacrifice

[@phoivos]

There is no being, no civilization without sacrifice. Life is full of countless sacrifices, big and small. You sacrifice something to get something else; if you don't, you're most likely a neanderthal

[@Version135]

Like all false religions, the focus is on what we can offer God. God is not pleased by mortal efforts.

[@genmaicha.lapsang]

@@Version135 That is blasphemy in Christianity,.

[@Navarothravenheart2688]

Christianity is the best cure for the culture of human sacrifice. The sacrifice has already taken place in its most terrible and perfect form, we, believing in the sacrifice and resurrection of Christ, do not have to sacrifice not only people, but even lambs and doves. It is not without reason that many thinkers (I, as a Catholic, refer to Catholic teaching) are against not only such an obvious crime as abortion, but also (for many decades) forced military service. The trap of moral utilitarianism must be rejected. Neither feminist ideology nor the "good of the state" justifies sacrificing people in clinics or forced conscription.

[@Gael32]

Yes! I always look forward to Carl's singular take on these things.

[@JohnDoe-tv4zf]

Everyone should watch Apocalypto, amazing film

[@RichardDanielli]

Has anyone else noticed that this sort of liberalism is so often bundled with NIMBYism?

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

They are anti-life and anti-growth. The mindsets track with each other.

[@DrgnLdyLizzie2001]

Yup.

[@JesusFriedChrist]

And by “that sort of liberalism” you mean “the opposite of liberalism” because “that sort of liberalism” discussed in this video, is the sort of liberalism that is the opposite of liberalism. Which makes it NOT LIBERALISM, doesn’t it? That’s right. So then why must you (and Sargon) LIE? Speak the truth or don’t speak at all.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

@@JesusFriedChrist No, you just don't understand what liberalism leads to. Therefore you think Sargon is lying in your lack of ability to understand. What Sargon is talking about are the moral precepts built into liberalism. These precepts inevitably lead to communism and leftism, because they share the same base beliefs. Leftism and communism in all forms and current or future mutations, desire a society based on moral principles that effectively require death at their core to form their better world. This may be done via purging the non believers, as in soviet or other kinds of totalitarian communism. Or this may be the mass deaths due to abortion in the west. Or it may be the prevention of birth in anti-natalism or the promotion of deviant sexualities. But it always, always ALWAYS ends up promoting some form of anti-life.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

Anti-Growth & Anti-Life are consistent concepts.

[@billbadson7598]

YHWH says all mankind are His image-bearers, and outlaws human blood sacrifice. The worshippers of YHWH abide by this command, despite all of them understanding that power can be gained through human sacrifice.

[@Friggsdottir]

What did Abraham plan to do in the Bible in the name of your god?

[@KopperNeoman]

@@Friggsdottir Irrelevant. He's not the Lord of Lords, he's just a servant and can be misguided.

[@billbadson7598]

@@Friggsdottir What did he, and YHWH, ACTUALLY do?

[@MrKoobuh]

Imagine being so consumed by the urge to 'avoid harm' that you become comfortable with death being the alternative to slight discomfort or ordinary inconvenience.

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

"There is no one they won't sacrifice." Now there i take umbridge, good sir. They NEVER sacrifice themselves.

[@MatthewOfGilead]

Death and Sacrifice can be some of the highest of nobility in action we can take. It just has to be our own life to commit to something rather than forcing someone else to die for whatever reason.

[@ForNeverAfter]

The thing that baffles me is that we are "pro the sanctity of life" but alot of people want to argue the technicalities for what if "life" to justify ending the unborn, so they can maintain a pro life stance and "im not a murderer" stance.. just embrace the sin and dont revel in it.. but the modern day treatment of people deemed socially unworthy is social outcasting.. where someone isnt allowed to work their job, have family, friends, social presence, all because people are disagreeing with that person.. the people outcasting others feel morally pure, even as they paint a target on someones back and remove their means of survival, theyre basically painting them in BBQ sauce, strapping meat to them and then throwing them to the wilds.. "we we arent killing you, we are just putting you in that hellish position that could result in your serious harm or death but you could still survive.. could.." they try to adopt the stance of "we are the morally pure and virtuous" while putting people in precarious positions and saying "we didnt make you homeless, we protected others, we just made you unable to get work and afford your way of life, reducing you to that of a beggar, but we are innocent of our involvement" like their fire and forget methods of outcasting absolve them of the consequences of their actions.. the internet and money is everyones lifeblood.. to cut those ties, makes those people a burden on everyone around them.. it makes their life so so much harder.. it can result in homelessness and debt, which could also result in prison.. its essentially ruining a person.. but people who put these people in those positions feel morally superior.. i dont get it

[@TheUnhousedWanderer]

11:02 former prison inmate here. I am definitely responsible for my crimes, despite my unfortunate circumstances growing up.

[@allpaths4836]

this is the biggest positive to Christianity. God sacrificed his only Son making human life sacred. And until we end this practice of pagan human sacrifice. God will continue to foresaken us

[@Bashbekersjiw]

......bruh

[@TheLonesomePagan.]

It's not a sacrifice if you just bring him back from the dead

[@justiceiria869]

​@@TheLonesomePagan. Yes it is, If Jesus sinned, the resurrection wouldn't be possible because the wage of sin is death. Death is the price for committing sin. Jesus is God in the flesh, he was both man and God.

[@Jose-yt3qz]

@@justiceiria869 The fact that the only thing that can pay sin is life...implies that nothing in this world is more valuable than human life.

[@justiceiria869]

@@Jose-yt3qz yeah, God is a god of the living. He is the source of all life and sin corrupts the souls of those who partake in it. The fact that he declared this should show you how serious he takes sin. Yet, Jesus also shows how much God loves us.

[@HeadbangingGlory]

You heard it here folks, the Mayans were woke.

[@mnavarro707]

First. Edit: Carl, please keep this channel alive. This kind of content is why I've been watching you for nearly a decade.

[@JR-hh8js]

Thomas Sowell, mentions this in his book “conflict of visions”. He says there are two factions of people, each with their own vision. The constrained and the unconstrained. Those with the unconstarined vision tend to have a utopian view of the world and view the consequences of imposing it - such as the human sacrifices you mentioned - as mere bumps in the road until we get the formula right.

[@edgarfriendly4731]

This video is actually a revelation to me. Trying to understand the left wing mind from a right wing perspective. Its an absolute enigma of contradictions. This puts a few puzzle pieces in place.

[@PsychicAlchemy]

The human mind naturally attempts to build and adhere to a narrative in order to make sense of the world. For better or worse, religious people have their narrative given to them. After all, very few people are capable of crafting their own from scratch. Hence why the anti-religious fall into such disarray mentally. Without that guiding light, all the constituent parts of their mind are suddenly without purpose. Like a billion little spirits all looking for something to sustain them. In a world without meaning, hedonism is about as good as it gets. So if you can't pursue that, why pursue anything? Thus hedonism becomes the new guiding principle. Maximize pleasure; not always through intense binges, of course, because this also brings pain. This is why you may still see people who are fundamentally hedonists still living balanced lives. But you can tell when they've got an underlying anxiety and turmoil underneath, because without the lives they've built up, they have nothing.

[@thanatosdriver1938]

I'm going to say this as a leftist, if you tried to talk to me assuming I believed in so much as half of this, you'd be extremely confused because this isn't a representation of the left, this a religious caricature of the left. If you have ANY left-wing friends, try talking to them assuming this is what they believe in and watch their reactions carefully.

[@wrongthinker843]

@@thanatosdriver1938 Yeah, all of you say that, and it's never true.

[@thanatosdriver1938]

@@novinceinhosic3531 I was under the impression that it was always ‘my body my choice’

[@thanatosdriver1938]

@@wrongthinker843 OK what in specific about my comment do you believe is untrue? Because as far as I can tell, the only accurate thing about this video is that Sargon nailed the fact of is support for abortion and support for euthanasia exists. What in specific do you believe about my statement is untrue? Most of this video is on spiritual grounds which the left does not ascribe to so I don’t know what you think we would agree set forth by the video

[@unapologeticanti-feminist3205]

A woman can have a miscarriage at 5 weeks and grieve over it and everyone knows that that is a sad thing and would mourn with her. But if she didn't want it or had an abortion, we're supposed to think of it as no big thing, it was "just a bunch of cells". Which means our concept of human life is whether the mother wants it or not.

[@johnjay370]

Crisis life line advertising on this video. Irony.

[@danielmaher964]

Preach it brother!

[@forsakenquery]

There is food evidence that the Mayan proclivity to sacrifice began only in the dwindling decades of the empire.

[@moritamikamikara3879]

I've looked into this and yes, most human sacrifices by far occurred in the bad times. For the Mayans that was when their civilisation (which was not an empire, but a collection of city states) began collapsing due to ecological damage. Other examples include the Carthaginian phonecians, who were recorded to have conducted more human sacrifices (mostly child sacrifices) during the second punic war than at any other point, that war of course almost broke them. The Aztecs/Mejica/Nahuatl on the other hand did human sacrifices basically all the time.

[@cosmicprison9819]

You got that backwards. You can’t be pro-life without being pro-death, since life necessarily includes death at the end. The idea of sacrificing men in combat on the altar of ensuring the survival of the rest of the society - specifically, women and children - is a requirement of those prioritising survival, not of those prioritising individual liberty.

[@MichaelGarland]

Carls voice is a quite remarkable autonomous sensory meridian response generator.

[@saeyabor]

"You who wish to conquer pain _You must learn what makes me kind_ The crumbs of love that you offer me They're the crumbs I've left behind _Your pain is no credential here_ _Just the shadow, shadow of my wounds"_ ~ Leonard Cohen, "Avalanche"

[@Doc_Tar]

To summarize the morality of the modern progressive in "Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan" terms, "The needs of the irresponsible outweighs the need of the innocent."

[@johnhawthorn5393]

All my friends are misogynists

[@vileluca]

Based

[@gleipnirrr]

no one else can endure the smell?

[@andythompson2009]

Can I be your friend?

[@NFS0038]

The ever blessed, all holy, immaculate Mother of God, the Theotokos and most pure Virgin Mary is my friend.

[@justian1772]

@@NFS0038 "Ever blessed and most pure - and the mother of our God." I knew I wasn't the only Ortho who watches Sargon.

[@LabelsAreMeaningless]

While I agree with your presentation in a sense, it also gives far too much credit to the average supporters of these positions. They do not do this level of deep thinking. They follow the crowd and never challenge themselves with other points of views. Trapped in their own bubble full of half truths and misrepresentations.

[@jorgenjorgensen2739]

Unfortunately, that's the issue. The people in charge of these ideologies know and act on these versions of human sacrifice. They obfuscate their intent behind moral relativism, then use propaganda to subert society and their members. It's also not the newest way this tactic has been used: both America and the USSR used this tactic in "lesser" nations to fight the Cold War. Is this strictly liberal? No, but it is embedded in global politics and slightly more in liberal politics.

[@Br3ttM]

It's not conscious for most of them, but it is more consistent than just following popular social views. Even if some of the people are truly just following, something is causing an ideological system to form and grow. People's brains will pick up certain patterns, and they expand on and refine those ideas subconsciously if they aren't considering them rationally.

[@Dazza_Doo]

Death is required for a Moral and Virtuous life. The Scifi show Altered Carbon had a great story about this.

[@SuperHahaha1313]

Woot! Sargon uploaded

[@GaffTacular]

That thumbnail 👌

[@segurosincero4057]

Yet they cannot abide the death penalty.

[@no.-trip4304]

Because they’re anti-white, not anti-life

[@Endymion766]

The old god Moloch was a woman's "free will restorer" back in the day. "Unwanted" children would get shoved into the altar and the mother left knowing she did a good thing because the sacrifice would be good for the whole community in the long run. However, I'm still pro-choice myself, because I do believe not being born is better than being born to a woman who will never love you.

[@Nightdare]

then live and find people who do! Lots of good people came from bad history, we admire those that can weather storms and succeed against their odds Overcoming challenge is what strengthens us, admitting defeat kills the spirit What person would you rather have on your side? the defeatist? or the steadfast?

[@Endymion766]

@@Nightdare i dont get to pick a side

[@Nightdare]

@@Endymion766 Yes you do, unless you like being dragged down by losers and getting saved by the heroes But then you would need to take responsibility for yourself, instead of using 'circumstances' as an excuse

[@Endymion766]

@@Nightdare no, i don't. As soon as I choose, I lose half of myself. "Side" is simply a word that no longer has relevance in the world we now live.

[@Nightdare]

@@Endymion766 It does, you just don't want to be held accountable

[@thebanditman5663]

I remember watching Man in the High Castle, and in the episode where the SA officer's son is diagnosed with a neurological condition, I instantly drew a connection to Canada. The state provided doctor, who rather than care for and treat an illness to give a good life for the boy, put an "at-home" euthanasia kit on the table. The reason? Because it's a burden upon the state, and the boy would be better off dead than suffer his condition.

[@titanomachy2217]

Ah yes, that terrible fictional timeline in which white people aren't bound for extinction.

[@brasileiroloko5375]

this is crazy, i vagly remember watching your vids some years ago. how the world has fallen

[@stanisawzokiewski3308]

Democracy is a religion.

[@azirious666]

Everything is a religion

[@stanisawzokiewski3308]

@@azirious666 well kinda. Except for maybe hedonism and kraterocracy, they are too base and animalistic to be.

[@Mooxieclang]

The god that failed, so to speak

[@wrongthinker843]

@@azirious666 No and it's an idiotic claim.

[@elasticharmony]

No hedonism is a kind of philosophy of pleasure where pleasure is proven to be the "best"​@@stanisawzokiewski3308

[@kenyattamaasai]

Look, it's much simpler than this (and less nefarious): people who believe that the developing fetus is as morally important as an adult life (e.g. "life begins at conception") abhor abortion as equivalent to murder; those who view it as nothing more than a _potential_ human being weigh it as (often much) less important than an adult life and feel that abortion must be available. Few people on the pro-abortion side of things feel no qualms about the act, they just weigh an adult human over a 'clump of cells.' while, similarly, few people who are anti-abortion have no empathy for women in difficult circumstances around the issue, they just view that 'seed of human life' as equal in moral importance. This is _not_ about sacrificial rituals - at least not on the abortion front. Frankly per the last polls I looked at, few people in the US are completely pro or anti abortion, but rather feel that the morality of the act depends tightly on circumstances: on this issue, we are mostly purple, not red or blue.

[@Nightdare]

Being inconvenienced isn't "women in difficult circumstances" especially when there are several ways to prevent pregnancy before having to resort to abortion

[@purplegoose22]

Carl, I love that you’re posting on this channel, any chance we can get the old Ken theme outro 👀

[@BadenHealth]

The Mayan sacrifices were to appease anxiety about the future

[@Kris.G]

So, just like every other religion, including Christianity.

[@cftyftyufyfuyfty]

​@@Kris.Gyes, except Christianity specifically prohibits *human* sacrifice as Christ has done that for all people and all time. It is no longer required to sacrifice people, but your sins (which is easy and morally good)

[@Kris.G]

@@cftyftyufyfuyfty and they mutilate body parts to appease their god.

[@Bashbekersjiw]

​@@cftyftyufyfuyfty .........there Is animal sacrifice

[@justiceiria869]

​​@@cftyftyufyfuyftychristians don't sacrifice humans in the first place. The practice of sacrificing animals in the old testament was how the Isrealites cleansed themselves of their sins because sin can only be cleansed through the shedding of blood. God promised the Isrealites that he would send a sacrificial lamb that would cleans not only their sins but all of mankind's sin. That lamb is Jesus, who is God in the flesh. By living a perfect life in accordance to the 10 commandments, Jesus' life could pay the price for the sins' of all of mankind and anyone who believes in him and follows him, their sins will become justified in God's eyes because the fine for committing sin has already been payed by Jesus with his life. All of this was done out of love by God so that we could have the hope to have everlasting life.

[@thomaswasden4163]

He perfectly articulates the ideology of Satanism without naming it. It does not even require a belief in a literal Satan to be a Satanist. It just requires that one worship one’s own will, whereas Christianity requires willing submission to suffering in order to follow Christ. I think a lot more could be said about how far down the Satanist rabbit hole society has gone.

[@flacjacket]

My issue of Islander arrived today. It looks great, top quality, you should be very proud Carl!

[@malcolmapplet4313]

I think the name is perfect.

[@ReventonSpeed]

Sargon of Applebees! 🔥🔥🔥

[@Mlai00]

As a Common Sense (read: old) Liberal, I can vouch for the veracity of this psychological claim. Liberalism has its roots in utilitarianism, and/or vice versa. Utilitarianism can, and does, go down such paths in logic.

[@shoa4566]

There was a common trope during the sitcom days wherein the mother would threaten the child and state, " I brought you in the world and now and I will take you out." I heard many mothers say this kind of thing in efforts to ape comedy. I cannot understand for a minute how a mother would desire to kill her own child or even utter the words.

[@1HammerHaunt1]

Huh. This is also a quote from a Russian classic novel 'Taras Bulba' by Nikolay Gogol. Except there it's said by a father to a son who betrayed his country and his people. So it's more an act of responsibility for your child's actions(as was understood at those times, anyway) instead of simply getting rid of the inconvenience like we see nowadays.

[@shoa4566]

@@1HammerHaunt1 A father is not interchangable to mother nor is a child man. Forgive me for having to state the obvious.

[@1HammerHaunt1]

@@shoa4566 you basically said outloud what I implied: that there *is* a difference. As for your initial message...idk, I suppose being a mother is a skill that actually has to be nurtured or smth. Good luck with that given the way the world is now, though.

[@shoa4566]

@@1HammerHaunt1 Sure.

[@Joe-ju4cj]

Forgot this channel was even on my subs

[@greentobacco2824]

Same. It's been a minute.

[@toaker]

To quote Shrek: Some of you may die, but, that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

[@Buchinator12]

Travelling back in time and showing this to Martin Luther

[@lordfarquaad8601]

You're a fool to think Catholicism is immune to such corruption

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

Shadilay

[@violenceislife1987]

Shadilay

[@mayanboricua]

Holy Kek!

[@CS-os5pt]

This why I like Jesus, he is the sacrifice for ever, so that humans don’t do that. I’m not even a Christian. I just like this idea.

[@GeneralProfessor]

It sounds like you're starting to understand the need for Christ as the sacrificial lamb.

[@Nightdare]

Jesus was just another victim of God's divine plan

[@davidchase9424]

Suicide hotline attached to this video... How juvenile

[@scytheshogun2683]

This is a really interesting comparison, very good video. I'm going to research more on the morality of death.

[@bigbluebuttonman1137]

Anyone ever watched "Johnny got his gun?" The Metallica Song, One, is pretty much based off the concept. Now, it's a bit extreme, but the degradation of the human condition can indeed reach similar levels. At some point, to continue living, is to *only* suffer, with no ability to meaningfully interact with the world, to help others, or even one's self. And that is truly pointless, if you ask me.

[@emarskineel]

I have dementia

[@MetalGearissolid]

grats bro

[@brick6347]

You running for office or filming a geezer teaser?

[@giin97]

Oh hey, Joe; how's it hangin'?

[@nunya8351]

Look on the bright side: you meet new people every day.

[@billstephens396]

Look on the bright side: you meet new people every day. Hey!

[@SirPrancelot1]

Outstanding.

[@rokadamlje5365]

thats a bit of a strech