DEATH AT SEAWORLD | EYEWITNESS INTERVIEW with Lynne Schaber | The Cove | TakePart TV

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"He just became an animal"
-- Lynne Schaber, Trainer at Shamu Stadium, SeaWorld Florida and Spotter Trainer when the orca Tilikum killed Dawn Brancheau. Interviewed by Orange County Sheriff's Office, February 24, 2010, 3:53 PM, shortly after Brancheau died.
Schaber was downstairs in the underwater viewing area that fateful day when Tilikum grabbed Dawn Brancheau and proceeded to ram and kill her in front of terrified guests. Shockingly, even though she had worked beside Tilikum for many years, Schaber was unaware of the details surrounding the other two human deaths previously associated with the 12,000 pound killer whale.
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[@jamesstewart8376]

I’ve never gone to Sea World and will never give one penny to that jailhouse.

[@whisperingthylacine]

Tilikum was never "tamed." He was born in the wild, captured and enslaved. Orcas need to be free, not in SeaWorld Hell!

[@kaisakrull7606]

whisperingthylacine I agree with u completely

[@poppeyp1083]

Couldn't agree more.

[@leval1000]

1000s of comments pointing out the (obvious) same thing. 👏 🙄

[@Oona707]

So sad he had to die there too

[@dukedematteo1995]

Morons

[@sandi43able]

All Orcas and Dolphins belong in the WILD not in CAPTIVITY.

[@ivyhope660]

Absolutely agree with you. God knows what damage it does keeping them in captivity all their lives.

[@sean9923]

All animals belong in the wild not captivity if you demonize see world you need to demonize zoos as well

[@kam0ch1]

seaworld is just trying to entertain us with animals

[@tristannaidoo3895]

I disagree, endanger species should be kept in suitable conditions for their future but that's the limite

[@missJolie85]

@@tristannaidoo3895 Well this is in no shape and form suitable conditions. They were not captured and bred because of preservation, but for profit. I'm sure this kind of activities will be forbidden in the future, and people will look back at how stupid we were, like we do about some insane things that were legal before. Kill whales doesn't have any natural enemies, they are nr 1 on the hierarki, they are not endangered. Well, unless you count us. If they do get endangered it would be because of us. The emphasize here should be on us making laws, rather than opening up for a future where we need to have them captive for preservation .

[@JayJay-zt6cw]

Instead of just commenting on these videos, do your part and do not support seaworld. If you truly believe these animals deserve to be free then do not pay to watch them in their prisons

[@jasabasenara8124]

Absolutely spot on !!!

[@YourMajesty143]

By commenting on videos, doesn't that mean they're aware of SeaWorld's issues? Not to mention, if somebody is literally typing on a keyboard, then they're not at a SeaWorld aquarium. I think the first part of this comment "Instead of commenting on these videos" makes no sense and needs to be edited out. You're asking for non-participation in SeaWorld, correct? How does "video comments" interfere with that?

[@JayJay-zt6cw]

@@YourMajesty143 "Instead of JUST commenting on these videos" if u going to quote me, quote me correctly.. so instead of JUST commenting and talkin like your a good person actually be a good person and do whats right.. if u do not get it from there I can not help you.

[@YourMajesty143]

@@JayJay-zt6cw - I did get what you meant, but it's you who doesn't get how odd it is. It's still assumptive. You're assuming that the ones who comment against this industry aren't already boycotting. Why would someone take the time to give verbal dissent, but then hypocritically go buy SeaWorld tickets? Pro-cap are either silent or they're going to actively defend SeaWorld. You're preaching to the wrong people. Therefore, that part of the comment -- whether correctly quoted or not -- still needs to go. It has no purpose. Speak to those who quietly watch these videos, but who remain on the fence. It's their eyes your comment needs to target. If you can't see that, then it's ME who can no longer help YOU.

[@JayJay-zt6cw]

@@YourMajesty143 You have never met people that say one thing and do the complete opposite? I hate to tell you lady but there are many people in this world that do that. And anyway you already know my comment is just supporting the right thing to do and you still want to comment about how I put it? Why not just not get it and move on? Instead you gotta start an argument.. hopefully you dont support sea world and I dont either, so we both for the same cause.. why does it matter how I write it?

[@MissMolly3377]

"He just became an animal." Hmm.

[@jonassjolund6463]

Miss Molly hmmm.. i wonder why. Hi is à animal, duuh

[@emily-clark]

@@jonassjolund6463 We, human beings, are also animals... orcas are highly intelligent animals just like humans are. We must respect them and leave them with their families in the wild, not in captivity. Imagine if You were captured and held against your will or if Your child was abducted by people and forever. How would you feel? Now imagine how an orca feels...

[@sarahholland1375]

Another trainer has said all new trainers were given a "Tilly talk" & told never, ever get in the water with Tillikum, or you'll end up dead. Then she runs out of food & 'rewards' him by kneeling down, leaning over the him in the pool & scratching his tongue, and inside his mouth . WTF. Why was he even being used to perform, I understood they knew his history of killing a trainer & a guy who climbed in the tank, but they bought him as breeding stock anyway. She didn't drown either. He tore her arm off, scalped her & broke her ribs, legs etc. Then refused to drop her for a couple of hours. Wild Orca's have never, ever attacked a human in the wild. Putting a highly social animal that live in family 'pods' up & travels hundreds of miles a day alone in a 30ft pool is abuse. They headbutt the concrete til they bleed & stay motionless not swimming hour after hour (signs of emotional disturbance).

[@thebwordpod3315]

All of them were performing in the water with him you can see pictures of them standing on his back with the dorsal fin collapse

[@Kennedy4OurCountry]

Plus they jacked him off to get his sperm...I mean, zero dignity. That poor animal died a real long, slow death.

[@lifewithlogie]

@@thebwordpod3315 only “experienced” trainers were allowed in the water with him. Eventually none. All trainers got the “tilly talk” and that should say enough. They said “if you end up in the pool with him, you will end up a corpse”. Seaworld killed Dawn, not tilikum.

[@lifewithlogie]

@@thebwordpod3315 he would just come out at the end of shows for the “big splash”. Once he lunged and tried to harm one too many trainers, that was his duty. Dawn wasn’t even in the water with him. She was laying on the side of the pool and he grabbed her. His being ISOLATED and in captivity for that long, led to a psychosis. Clearly. Sea world is to blame:

[@TheOriginalCFA1979]

Yeah, or don't get into the water with a multi-ton aquatic predator. Somehow I don't think anyone would be as "outraged" if this exact sequence of events happened with a great white. This is natural selection in play. It's sad, but she got what was obviously coming and the people that day got what they paid for (because why else are you paying to watch terrestrial animals swim with aquatic predators?). And wild orcas have been involved in numerous non-fatal attacks, both in the wild and in captivity (as "Tilly" was a wild whale in captivity, not a domesticated orca).

[@adrianajimenez4342]

Horrible, poor whale and sad ending for the trainer.

[@c_wonder]

These creatures at seaworld will die never knowing how close they were to an actual ocean. sad

[@janleach5440]

I have watched wild ocra,s when I lived in Gibraltar and swamwith wild dolphins in Egypt,much better than seeing them in tanks, these should be shut down!!

[@danipulido2888]

Jan Leach I saw free dolphins too! The joy is unbelievable. Seaworld is a prison!!!

[@tracylambert2500]

As a kid, when we went to Sea World I thought it was remarkable to be able to see these beautiful creatures up close. I was mesmerized and wanted to work there. Although I did still think that it was very abnormal, as in why would this large creature be performing with a human balancing on his nose. As an adult I see the terrible abuse these animals are put through. The conditions in which they are to live in that decrease there life span by over 75%!!! Humans have a way of wrecking everything and are causing the extinction of our planets animals. Sea World should not exist anymore. They definitely have not gotten my business in years and never will again. Please save these animals!!

[@maureenanderson8740]

Rip Dawn you were a brave woman

[@Liesjepiesje]

The fact that you even thought that it was abnormal as a kid. The fact that even kids know that this is not ok says something about the people keeping these animals in a bathtub.

[@colombiana2710]

That's why wild animals belong in the wild .no lock up for human entertainment.

[@iwant2haveu]

We should ban all zoos.

[@colombiana2710]

What

[@carolewenman1308]

Sea World is to blame for the trainer death 100% keeping these beautiful creatures in captivity is unbelievably cruel. In the Wild they live free in a Pod, a family group and swim all over the Oceans. There is no excuse in 2019 to keep them in tiny tanks. Tilikum must have bee so distressed and unhappy to kill her. There have been problems after problems and theres so many wildlife documentries to see these animals wild theres now there no excuse for what you are doing. I hope the Justice System hauls you over the coals and charges Sea World with murder. I listend to one of your representives talking about them. So i went online and looked at every national geographic, blue planet, u tube etc etc.He didn’t know anything about it them he just repeated the same patter each time . knew more in one day than he described. I bet if i asked if any of you had taken time to go and see them in the wild the answer would be no because you are so arrogant. It is absolutely shameful and you should be ashamed. I’m guessing what is let of the Whales could not defend themselfves or feed themselves if you let them go so their lives are to be shut into tanks until they die, how miserable for them. Tilkum’s dorsal fin was completely dropped over to one side a clear indication that he was very stressed and very unhappy and it took a death of a trainer and you are still not listening. Tilkum should have lived another 20 years or so. If this had been another Animal for the purposes of education, it wouldn’t be allowed. Circusces have been stopped because then Lions, Tigers etc that killed trainers.Why have you been allowed to get away with such cruelty, money i guess. You can all be upset and sad he died, but you did that, it is crimninal. I’m just ashamed to call all of you a human being because what you have done and are sttill doing is abhorrent.

[@dukedematteo1995]

Orcas in Seaworld have no conception of captivity or that there is this other life they could be living in the wild.....they are fed a massive amount, socialize, play and until 5 yrs ago could mate and breed.

[@Adrianafaith123]

RIP Dawn....what a horrible way to go

[@sophialopez2079]

Poor tilikim just missed his mother his first memory of humans was them taking him away from his mom and killing three members of his pod three for three i guess... As far as him being posessive I'm sure that's a direct result of him being separated from his family thrown into a pit with other whales who abused him and always yearning to be loved and fear of abandonment hence the "keeping people" and "not letting them leave" once they entered his space.

[@Sheila612Miller]

Sophia Lopez well said. She was in his space and possessive.

[@terrimichaels2554]

Tilikum is at rest now but I will always remember him coming back after thirteen months and how the crowd went wild

[@christianealshut1123]

He might also have confused her with prey, who knows? You can't condition away instinct....

[@rickpinso2384]

Just awful.

[@hendrikasunqrout571]

Like Luna in the bay! They died alone craving friendship an family!

[@TheFrogfeeder]

He was captured in 1983 at 2 years old. if he was never captured and left to be in the ocean, today he would be a huge proud male leading his own pod. I’ve seen killer whales many times off the California coast and around the farralon islands, I’ve seen them hunt, kill, and eat sea lions, I’ve had them steal salmon off my line, and I’ve also had them come right to the boat and roll their eyes out the water and just look at us, eye to eye maybe 2 feet away, maybe as amazed by the experience as we were.

[@ARROGANTBOII]

Males are not the dominant ones 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ only the females can lead smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Gigi-rz1qd]

Killers whales live in a matriarchal society,the females r the dominant sex This played a huge factor as to why he was so possessive of what was in the water was his,as he was in the “pool”with 2 other females,who bullied him an asserted their dominance..Here’s the kicker these “trainers “would still be alive if they were in the water with these-extremely intelligent highly empathetic creatures-in the wild.

[@iwant2haveu]

We should ban all zoos!

[@blancosfamilyfarm1798]

Incredible

[@raplegends24]

Orcas are so smart and they never leave there mums SEAWORLD ARE DISGUSTING GREEDY they know about tilikum he's killed 3 people

[@shareinaali3878]

The real victim was Tilikum.. rest in peace big guy.. swim free now .. 💚💦💦💦💦💦💚💚❤😢❤

[@kaisakrull7606]

shareina ali I also agree with u til one doesn’t need to be held in capitivity nore any other whale

[@IAMdeborahkeys]

Well, I don't agree with you because Dawn was a victim of SeaWorld also, which is why the show still had to go on, even though he wasn't being cooperative that day they said. So she was just doing her job, which she loved because she loved genuinely loved him. RIP also Dawn, you did your best 👏🏾

[@amandamiller7926]

,Í Ky Ky Jl 6yyy@@kaisakrull7606

[@imes75560]

He shouldn't have been in captivity in the first place. He's an wild animal. Poor Tili 😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪

[@WendyMG247]

💯🥺😢

[@debbieschiphof3932]

When the hell are the authorities gonna say enough is enough, and put an end to this madness. How any more people have to die?!!

[@TheMW2informer]

Debbie Schiphof EXACTLY why is there not a 10 gauge or a bow with tranquilizer/heart stopping fast acting drug to try to save her life, and why do we let a ANIMAL kill HUMANS? If a bear or mountain lion that killed someone is found, guess what happens to it? They put it down so it doesn't happen again, this could have been prevented!

[@debbieschiphof3932]

What I meant though, is if this animal had never been captured, the trainer wouldn't have been killed!

[@TheMW2informer]

Debbie Schiphof I knew that’s what you meant but I’m just shocked no one tried to actively stop the deaths, I mean if I saw someone dying from an animal attack I’d do anything I could to kill/ stop the animal from killing a human.

[@reneelouiseazzopardi2073]

@@TheMW2informer Hear ! Hear ! And, why can't there be like an alarm...of some sort...in the pool to kinda scare the Whale to let go ...sounds silly BUT we do live in a Computer-obsessed world!

[@crystaldawn9255]

They get their 30 or 40 percent of the billions it brings in... so never. They evil of money grubbers goes deep deep

[@kotaniyumiko]

great decision :) Try maybe going up to Seattle one day! You can see Orca there for free, doing what orca should naturally do.

[@oldironsides4107]

Lol no you can’t. What are you talking about weirdo.

[@oldironsides4107]

It’s like saying look up at the sky and you’ll see Haley’s comeT Yeah maybe once In a few lifetimes. 99.999%. Of humans will not see an orca up close. And you’re saying go to Seattle and you will? Or are you talking about fat black women eating fish?

[@solistardust33]

@@oldironsides4107 You’re not nearly as funny or clever as you think with these comments. Wish I had your confidence, though, as unwarranted as it may be.

[@x0xTHLover4Lifex0x]

Orcas aren't whales. They're dolphins. They're called killer whales because they are apex predators and kill whales. Such intelligent and majestic creatures

[@patstocker3658]

Yes good point. They can’t even describe the right species, insisting on calling it a ‘whale’. Ignorant cowards. These poor ‘dolphins’ are subjected to a life of misery, isolation /loneliness . SeaWorld are NOT the benign caring keepers they profess to be. They are in it for profit only. If they truly cared about the species, they wouldn’t be buying them from the despicable people who go out and capture them. Please don’t buy tickets for SeaWorld and don’t buy Anheuser -Busch Budweiser beer. - they are the owners of SeaWorld Let’s help stop this mindless cruelty. NOW

[@pashion289]

they are cetaceans, which are whales. all dolphins are part of the infraorder cetacea, they are toothed whales (odontoceti)

[@heidifisher7693]

I just watched a PBS program about the underworld of the Sea. it's a cycle of life. long story short. Dolphins were eating fish, sharks were eating baby dolphin, Orcas were eating big dolphins. so if Orcas are dolphin, why would they eat their own species. I never heard that mentioned on that program. PBS knows what their talking about. and I actually witnessed the whale eating dolphin. This orca just came outta no where and gulped that dolphin like it was a potato chip. it made me sick to see that.

[@Moxie.Blacksmith]

@@heidifisher7693 Big birds may eat small birds. They're still all birds. Big fishes may eat small fishes.

[@pommiebears]

@@heidifisher7693 sharks eat smaller fish. Lions eat smaller cats. Chimpanzees eat smaller monkeys. People have eaten chimpanzees, and seeing as we’re both in the great ape species….it’s the same as an orca eating a dolphin.

[@zingwilder9989]

The poor young lady...it was horribly tragic. Just looking at things logically, these incredibly intelligent animals are the ultimate predators in the sea; however, they're in captivity being played with like puppies. It was inevitable that something would go terribly wrong at sometime. Moreover, Tilikum already had a history of fatal aggression.

[@billyb4790]

She was very good friends with Dawn.

[@dukedematteo1995]

Tilikum was not trained for waterwork. He was the one whale you did not get into the water with. Everyone knew that.

[@zingwilder9989]

@@dukedematteo1995 Thank you. I did read further and discovered that trainers getting into the water with the animal was strictly prohibited. Dawn was reported as being on a watery shelf and her ponytail slipped into the pool. Indeed, she took a great risk in being far too close to that creature.

[@Janneke003]

​@@zingwilder9989 Trainers were not allowed in the pool with the whales anymore after the death of Dawn, you should watch the documentary Blackfish, its really interesting

[@saravis56]

That poor animal.

[@cynthiaennis3107]

Here she says, “he BECAME a wild animal.” Wow! What an observation on her part! 🙄 Another woman was right where she states she was...a spectator mom, who told others with their kids to get outta there & take their children out!

[@wolf2friendsplayz306]

#NoTankIsBigEnough

[@psychohernandez6787]

I love how people act surprised when an animal that’s been harmed abuse and kept captive away from their actual home where they’re free turn on the people that do all that to them like what did you expect THEY ARE WILD ANIMALS of course they don’t like to be treated that way and they all have their limits there’s just so much they can tolerate yes they’re beautiful creatures and us as humans we wanna interact with them n see them up close but we gotta understand they are wild animals they belong in the wild where their actual home is and that’s where they need to be and stay

[@marietjie]

Dawn surely knew that. Yet she prefered to do the show ...

[@julianadamico4702]

@@marietjie ----- maybe she was proud of how she thought she could handle him.. and she was lullled into a state of complacency

[@909walton]

How are they abused

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@909walton they aren't abused.. They are fed and played with constantly, and given tons of veterinary care.

[@leighannbrody4979]

A friend of mine was working with the OCSO this day. He said Tilikum was screaming nonstop afterwards. Like he understood. God bless everyone involved. RIP Dawn and Tily.

[@felixash9716]

Then why did he kill her if he understood what he did?

[@star.cat.]

Ok pal 🙄🙄

[@Jenahh-aye]

​@@felixash9716imagine a creature that much smaller than you feeds u in exchange for tossing them about like a living toy all those years. Blurs some lines doesn't it?? You do physical tricks with a tiny ant and try not to hurt or kill it. It was always a stupid idea to become the play thing of creatures that big. Add in the horrible life the orcas have in captivity. And the fact they are apex predators who play with their prey in much the same way as some of the moronic tricks. Orcas yeet seals off their noses and roll w them on their belly before brutalizing them. If the orca really wanted to kill her, there would have been nothing but trainer confetti. You ever see the aftermath of their kills??? It's hard to tell exactly what animal it was. People wanting to play cruel gods over animals that are stronger, faster, smarter, more cunning and equipped to absolutely tear them limb from limb= not very smart.

[@tessdurberville711]

​@@felixash9716 He snapped.

[@Bella-ht5jb9he3z]

In the book it wasn’t her ponytail. He grabbed her arm. They were allowed to have ponytails. And that’s why her arm was bitten off. The people who were dining said Tilikum had her by her arm.Read Death At Seaworld. Very eye opener book. Seaworld is a horrible place and has lots of secrets.

[@missionebby2]

Bella what???? Her arm was bitten off?!

[@Yayaben94]

yes i heard that he swallowed her arm

[@caiit69oxoxox]

Ebony John yes her arm was missing and she was scalped, shocking injuries

[@sarahholland1375]

Yep, Seaworld tried to say her swishing ponytail triggered his predator/prey response.

[@sarahholland1375]

@@missionebby2 yes, she was scalped, had other facial injuries, broken ribs, broken legs & her arm was torn off. He then wouldn't give up her body for around 2hours after they put him in the small med treatment pool: so they drained it & manually removed her from his mouth as he thrashed, beached on the concrete pool floor. The emergency drills weren't followed & a trainer there whose since left said it was just chaos & panic.

[@laceybanter5937]

He didn't "just become an animal". He always was.

[@holycowz6887]

Tilikum's fin was bent which means that they are unhealthy or stressed which can lead to a burst of anger

[@cescacatanzaro5980]

this has actually been proved false by many studies in marine biology. however tilikum is seemingly very sad and stressed earlier in the believe show

[@pheebs818]

This is false and also what makes youtube toxic. People watch KZbin and take things as fact and then repeat it.

[@amandaagustin7286]

Imagine being stuck in a tank for 25 years, poor Tilikum, at least he’s in a better place now

[@mamaveros]

He killed 3..two trainers and the young man

[@brussell639]

She sure sounds like she's trying to say as little as possible. The only details she wants to give are gate numbers.

[@crazydiamond4565]

I was actually chosen along with my husband and 18 month old child as the family to come up on stage and feed Shamu and get a hug from him. I was told to kneel at the edge of the pool and hold my arms in a ring and the whale came up between my arms and kissed my face. After seeing this video I Realize how close to death I came in 1986. I also see how unbelievably cruel this show was. I would never support it again! These animals need to be freed!

[@sxdxex]

Unfortunately they can’t be returned to the ocean because captivity is all they’ve ever known. They would die if let out. I *hate* sea world but I do respect their decision to stop breeding the whales. The ones they have now are the last generation that will be in captivity.

[@oldironsides4107]

You’re a shitty mom you brought your 18 month old to a killer whale to make yourself feel special. You should have your kid taken away. You’re one of the most irresponsible mothers to take an 18 month old baby to a killer whale. You and your former husband are absolutely inept at raising children

[@oldironsides4107]

You weren’t aware the danger of “ a killer whale” You trusted strangers and a thousand pound animal. Over motherly intuition. You are absolute garbage. Maybe let your baby kiss a crocodile or snuggle with a python if a stranger who trains animals tell you too. Shame on you. Horrible parent

[@leeannwitt4968]

They drug these animals with benedryl and anti depressants

[@cornpeal8945]

Omg that is so unsafe 🫣😰 I can’t believe sea world felt comfortable sharing the whale’s space with visitors back then.. im glad there aren’t any reports of whales harming visitors. So many close calls 😰😰 there’s a clip of a whale going over the barrier-people say they do that when they hunt seals. Children started petting the whale, and a staff member ran towards them and told them to stop while getting in between the whale and the children…. There’s a lot of comments under that clip saying the whale could have easily snatched one of them 🫣

[@ericnootebos5855]

“It was natural the way they are” is not quit right. In nature orca’s do not attack human’s. It was very unatural because he lived in captivity for years and years..

[@bookiecookie444]

OMG!!!!! No wonder Dawn's husband has a team of lawyers to prove a WDS! Where was her spotter??

[@sandyrussell4175]

why are spotters necessary if they think they are so tame?????

[@222lightatoms3]

The husband has no right to sue

[@adrunkgorillawithalobotomy353]

@@sandyrussell4175 They know they're not tame. Even Sea World knows that. It's something their insurance company insisted on, no doubt. (Sea World's insurance company, that is....). Truth is, spotters are essentially useless. If an Orca decides to drag a trainer into the water, no spotter will be able to save them.

[@adrunkgorillawithalobotomy353]

@@222lightatoms3 Why not? Maybe Dawn wasn't aware of Tilikum's past record with people. Maybe Sea World didn't do enough to protect their employees.....and if you watch Blackfish, you'll hear several different former employees state that they had very little information about the animals, especially Tilikum. Sea World could've prevented this death by not letting people near Tilikum for ANY reason, but they chose not to. They said as long as you don't go in the water with him, you'll be fine. Which is stupid when you think about it. Orcas can rear up and pull things into the water.....it's how they catch seals who try to stay on ice in the polar regions of the world. SW knew Orcas could pull people into the water and hurt them, and yet they did nothing to stop people from being at risk. Where were the barriers they could've built to keep the whale from pulling people in? Right. There were none at that time. He has every right to sue. His wife would still be alive if SW gave a damn about the animals AND their employees.

[@tessdurberville711]

@@adrunkgorillawithalobotomy353 She was laying on the slide out in the water next to him. What good would barriers have done? She put herself in that position. Even if no one told her (Tilly Talk), she could have researched his past at the library.

[@billiebergmann471]

there was a tv series named flipper long time ago - the rrainer trained about 3? Flippers and was full of remorse, once the last flipper died in his arms. This is nothing but animal abuse

[@tessdurberville711]

It was five, and Ric O'Barry is a hypocrite.

[@rubyleuty9417]

I saw an interview with Flipper’s trainer and he said Flipper committed suicide. He said he knew that because he was with him. He had petted him and he said he looked so sad. He then swam down to the bottom of his pool and didn’t come back up. He drowned himself. The guy was almost in tears telling the story of his last time seeing him.

[@sullystpatrick]

Im dumbfounded as to why anyone would even get in the same mile of water let alone right next to a gigantic Orca previously involved in the death of two humans on two separate occasions. That is completely bizarre, and she ran out of food which makes it even more insane. Makes me wonder about the extent to which she or other trainers were aware of his history-- I mean the orca had literally killed people two different times and youre in the water with him like he's a Disney character, she couldn't have known the full story. If she was aware then I imagine as soon as he grabbed her she knew exactly what was happening and going to happen which is unfortunate to think about

[@tessdurberville711]

She, and every trainer there, were expressly forbidden to get into the water with Tillikum. She ignored the rules, teased him, baited him. Oh well.

[@twilightgarden2217]

Poor tilikum

[@luvrgurl3056]

I’m crying this is literally sad

[@bellathebestautisticgirl247]

Blackfish 🐬🐬🐬🐬

[@Sheila612Miller]

#DONTBUYTICKETS

[@MsAppleCharlotte]

Another eyewitness I've just listened to also states that there were no spotters with Dawn. Hmm...

[@leval1000]

She shouldn’t have been with him then. I saw her in the water with him. She knew the rules.

[@marniehall9805]

@@leval1000 you saw her as in you were there? Or you saw a video?

[@krismitchell1354]

What's a spotter?

[@MultiMattman68]

Orcas belong in the wild These are highly intelligent creatures and they need interaction with their own kind, like humans,they too have friends They are here for a reason like us humans

[@cryptobradley2006]

That lady fears her job instead of telling the truth..how much blood in the water

[@racheltyler3619]

I don't feel sorry for the ppl they know they not supposed to have them there anyways they r wild animals leave them alone leave them in the wild where they belong

[@ggraves7321]

Don’t be delusional it is tragic that the young woman lost her life.... accidents happen and it is horrible for her family , friends, coworkers. She was a trainer not the corporation and it shows she loved these animals, respected them and did her job in the most ethical way. Don’t be so cruel that you forget that someone lost their life. If you have beef.... then do express yourself differently and not as if it is whale vs human.... have you no decency?

[@Leolioness44]

SHUT SeaWorld down

[@NellieKAdaba]

Sad, I'll never get to Seaworld, I always wanted to go, but because of this incident, I don't think I will ever go.

[@JoeyMartz]

Did you ever get there? I see this post is three years old.? I feel the same way and am curios. -J

[@NellieKAdaba]

Joseph Martinez I never went to see Seaworld and I never will, I changed my mind. Thanks for asking. Have a great day and year.

[@marieclark2155]

I wouldnt want to go,id rather give my money to a good animal trust,than one that makes money and abuses their animals ,did you see the video where several men in a boat slaughtered a dolphin,very sad

[@xyzsame4081]

There is a wonderful documentary of a scientist "swimming with orcas" in New Zealand. She is cautious. They live there all year, got to know her and they like to hunt sting ray (She: I think for them it is like chocolate, they really put a lot of effort into hunting them). The orcas of course know her meanwhile and tolerate her. Then the documentary of the orcas in the Arctic (or Antarctic) going after seals. (usually I would side with the seals, but damn are the orcas smart). Beats the tricks of Sea World. We have to accept that it is not possible to be up and close with them. As for dolphins there are some places in the world where they voluntarily interact with humans. I would not trust a traumatized dolphin either (swimming with dolphins in basins for tourists). Plus that is also cruelty towards animals.

[@sammiboo77]

Dine with shamu, literally.

[@ironshieksmedi3049]

35$$ for two days of animal cruelty, marine world in Canada has the grossest water ,I'd rather swim in piss.I've seen cleaner men's room urinals.

[@Jiggs2u2]

SeaWorld are scumbags.. while no wale should be kept in captivity, the worst part was they tried to blame the trainer Dawn which was total bullshit

[@laurastokes4777]

an animal communicator in touch with dawn's spirit and Tilikum's spirit was told that this was a soul contract event that took place to illustrate the dire conditions these beings are forced to endure in captivity Barbara shor is the communicator who wrote the article

[@devonmoon5016]

I agree with this x

[@andyanderson5637]

Wow how stories change another woman said she seen her laying in water beside whale before he grabbed her swears to seen whole thing.

[@crystaldawn9255]

I assumed it was after he pulled her in..but also, this woman said she did not see Dawn until she was in water.. so she didn't know how she got into the water

[@susansmith4784]

Something very odd about this female's account 1) of course he's 'an animal', he IS a wild animal and Tilicum did what wild animals do 2) she saw nothing of what happened above the water as she was below and saw the tank side on 3) one second she spoke of the two people who Tilicum was previously said to have injured, then when pressed, she didn't know??? Either she knew or she didn't. RIP Tilicum

[@nareyakireina]

This comment may be from three years ago but 1) There's nothing wrong with her calling him an animal because that's what he is. 2) That doesn't matter, she still saw that Dawn winded up inside of the water which is something they are told not to ever do so she knew that Tillikum had pulled her in. 3) She knew that two others had been killed. That doesn't automatically mean that she knows the details.

[@lizsmith3132]

Was sea world ever charged with her death?

[@Danishplayer2023]

Poor whale i feel bad for Tilikum i hate seaworld it need to stop for the whales they need to be free also for trainers so they all not die and i also feel bad for dawn and the two trainers he kilt they didint know better also the family it out of controlle!

[@deepviolet7982]

Call me crazy but this interview was RIGHT after the incident, Feb 24th, 2010... Immediately after this woman witnessed Dawn get brutally killed by a whale and all of the chaos that ensued. There is NOT one ounce of emotion in her voice, no different than if she was giving us directions to her house. This entire event: tragic death of Dawn, inhumane whale captivity, many wildly conflicting reports and now this cold, callous interview makes me sick beyond belief!! And, Highly suspicious. God help this planet!!!!!!!!!!

[@dharmatialda7269]

She was in shock

[@leannawashington1509]

I noticed that too

[@homewithaheartlastchancere5789]

I agree

[@homewithaheartlastchancere5789]

If my best friend died id be half dead myself

[@Moxie.Blacksmith]

Just, don't judge people for how they react to a death. A lot of people would respond to someone official gathering info, because they feel like they wanna contribute somehow.

[@izadine]

I have seen Tilikum at Sea World back in 1988 (I think he was Shamu at the time). I´m from Sweden and I was on holiday in the U.S and we were recommended to visit Sea World (besides of Disneyworld). I remember his dorsal fin hanging and I felt sorry for them having to live in small pools. I would never ever visit again. I feel sorry for the orcas, dolphins and so on. It should be forbidden to keep animals locked up. Instead they should arrange tour boats to watch them in their own habitats. Or wait, noo.......then the greedy boat touring people would probably interfere with their natural lives, even get them stressed out in the wild as well. Because then, people arranging would probably organize numerous boat trips to get more profit and it would probably end up with boats disturbing their feeding hunt etc 24/7 and the other marine life. Last suggestion. Let some real wild life photographers and film makers observe them in the wild and the rest of the people can watch them on film, if they don´t have a natural connection to their surroundings.

[@JerubbaalgodSlayer]

Orcas and Dolphins should *not* be in captivity.

[@iloveyou281000]

To be honest with you, I'm saying maybe and that's a big maybe, that this could have been prevented. This lady along with another person was with Dawn standing by. As soon as he pulled her into the water, my question is what the hell were they doing? Watching Netflix ! Probably in such a state of shock and wanted nothing to do with interfering with that Whale, instead of doing something more to maybe distract his attention, by throwing in the safety net immediately over him, maybe tranquilizing the Whale, but it was probably too late by the time they could do anything. It was over the moment he grabbed her arm.

[@sarahholland1375]

How do you get a whale that has her by her arm to let go though? He's just going to dive which is exactly whhat he did. After he was herded to the small medical pool he still refused to give her up so they drained it to beach him & then pulled her out of his mouth as he was thrashing, beached, on the concrete pool floor

[@iloveyou281000]

@@sarahholland1375True, they probably wouldn't have been able to get him to let go, but you try everything humanly possible, proper safety measures should always be in place when dealing with animals this big and powerful

[@outoftime7740]

What could anybody do that was on the side of the pool. He held her down and kept thrashing her around. 45 minutes later, he was still holding Dawn in his mouth and shaking her like a rag doll. He mutilated her.. it took one lady who knew him well, that was working at the Dolphin stadium, who was able to talk to Tilikum and get him to let go of her.

[@iloveyou281000]

@@outoftime7740rue at that point there was little they could do, but there still should have been better safety procedures in place, especially when dealing with this particular whale 🐳, otherwise they should have not gotten too close to him without the proper safety measures

[@blancosfamilyfarm1798]

WE NEED "JAY'S" STORY ASWELL AS THOSE 30 GUESTS AT THE WINDOW BELOW!!!

[@ReptilesGeniales]

This was a very messy interview, he asked questions that she didn’t know the answer to, he didn’t let her describe what she saw, at all, interrupted her the entire time…. Ask relevant questions!!

[@adolata7457]

Wow this woman is having a very very hard time speaking and answering questions. I am sure she is so shook from what happened, BUT you can tell she is nervous about giving answers that sea hell would be upset with and that is making her even more nervous which is so sad. She is afraid to lose her job not knowing what the correct lies are to say about this incident. Sea Hell sucks, dawns death should never have happened but then coworkers are scared to death giving interviews. Probably more afraid of sea world than they are of Tilikum. F*** Sea Hell!

[@jobee9545]

Totally agree with that!! First person I've come across to actually say she was scared.

[@DanielMartin-kz5bt]

EVEN THOU SHE WAS NERVOUS,SHE STILL MANAGE TO SAY SOME LIES, LIKE HOW THEY DON'T SUPOST TO GET IN THE WATER WITH TILIKUM BUT THEY WAS SWIMMING WITH TILY ANYWAYS.

[@neonblack211]

"I dont know a timeframe" "how long was she in the water?"

[@caliscioxarts2191]

similar thing happened to Steve Irwin the crocodile hunter, he passed away in 2006 he was killed by a sting ray...I feel Dawn and Steve knew the risks they wouldn't want any type of harm to these beautiful creatures.

[@brookedavis6041]

That's horrible

[@29tenshi]

Rest in peace

[@susankelly5585]

They should all be closed down. So very wrong in every way!!!😡😡😡😢

[@rideordis810]

What a horrifying way to die. 😢 Orcas should not be in captivity for profit. Despite Seaworld PR spin, there is zero public benefit.

[@denisepetzold3977]

Porque não há legendas em português?

[@mgkpraesi]

Never was there, never will be. This is wrong and should be forbiden by law.

[@notsorusty626]

Sounds like this Seaworld trainer isn't telling the entire truth... There is video and plenty of witness testimony demonstrating that Dawn Brancheau was lying in the water on a slide-out with Tilikum when the incident occurred (she was not on the side of the pool as alleged by this person). Also, Dawn did not have any spotters as per this employees claim and I see I'm not the only person whose picked up on this discrepancy.

[@jennymac7938]

Yes I seen that video and was thinking the same thing. She had no spotters and was laying on the slide out.

[@sarahholland1375]

A slide out? Is that some diving board type thing attached to the poolside? Why she would 'scratch his tongue as a reward because she was out of fish' when all trainers knew his history is mind blowing. (the ex trainer has ho wrote a book stated that's what happened).

[@taco2947]

Her friend was just brutally killed by a Killer Whale in front of her. She might be a bit out of it.

[@jilljohnson3636]

Sad....stop using animals for show

[@romanhollow2985]

Let them go. It is cruel to have such huge animals in tiny tanks. It makes them crazy eventually. Sad

[@catherinerosa-baker2937]

SeaWorld close as far as I know but I'm surprised there's no videos of this in the tank with 30 people at the viewing window

[@DoctorWhoFTW]

Cameras weren’t as common over a decade ago. People just experienced stuff. A surveillance camera caught it but her family fought to keep it from the public. Understandably.

[@tessdurberville711]

​@@DoctorWhoFTW Several guests filmed it. Security confiscated their phones/ cameras/film.

[@pollyvera6415]

The pool is 20-22ft (6m) deep, 100ft (30m) across, 50-60ft (15-18m) wide. Just imagine being a fully grown 20-26ft (6-8m) orca in a pool like that. An orca in the wild can easily swim 62 miles (100 km) or even up to 100 miles (160 km) a day. In captivity they sometimes lay still for hours at a time. There's plenty of places where you have the oppertunity to spot orca's in the wild. So go for it

[@leonardhughes4521]

What I don't understand is I have no idea why the whale took her life I thought they only attacked if the person killed or harmed one of their own.

[@braxfan683]

Probably because she was the one who worked with him, making him perform, day after day, to audiences, in captivity

[@turtlejeepjen314]

Good Ol Boy detective is kind of intimidating & talking down to this poor girl- my God, she has just experienced SEVERE TRAUMA-- it’s not her fault she doesn’t know the pool size, or the details of the other 2 folks Tilly helped cancel their Life Subscriptions!! (This was hard for me to listen to because of all that!!) ugh!!

[@stephanieoneill2268]

Is this woman the same woman that was in the video before Tilikum pulled Dawn in? Was she the one sitting next to Dawn whilst Dawn was getting Tilikum to perform tricks? The woman with the brown hair.

[@phibiepop6228]

Stéphanie, yes I think Lynne is the woman who was next dawn

[@stephanieoneill2268]

Phibie Pop thank you.

[@phibiepop6228]

Stéphanie, I was so sad about this tragedy for Tili and Dawn too, if captivity doesn't exist, their death would never exist at all... 😢

[@stephanieoneill2268]

Phibie Pop I know, it’s terrible. I have a lot of hope for the future and the new generation to come and captivity should be a thing of the past.

[@phibiepop6228]

Stéphanie. I pray for that, captivity will be behind us, and this day is coming soon, hopefully, the new generation seems to be very concerned by that 👍❤️

[@sophierosenberg1294]

People need to stop going to see these shows and when the park realizes they're not making money then they'll stop bringing these poor creatures into captivity.

[@tessdurberville711]

SeaWorld has not taken, nor purchased an orca from the wild, in over 35 years.

[@tsommers3284]

Sorry but I have no sympathy for the people involved including Dawn. Tilikum should be with his family in the sea. Not with his kidnappers.

[@kristianxoto]

u kidnapped a dog from its mom..u not any better according to picture

[@kingkrokofox4300]

This has an incorrect title It's Lynne Schaber but at 0:02 it says Laura Surovik

[@29tenshi]

Dont go To sea world

[@linamarie84]

HOW do you NOT know the measurements of the pool? Honestly? Really?

[@debbiejacob3893]

No wild animal should be caged and forced into human entertainment for NO REASON...INGLUDING EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES...

[@ladyjustice1474]

No ocean mammal should be captured and contained for "entertainment". They are born free and should remain free in their natural environment.

[@Liesjepiesje]

Although I feel really bad for her and her family, she risked her own life every time she swam in that pool, as well as every other trainer who does. This was about to happen at some point.

[@charm8167]

RIP Dawn, this lady when she was alive loved these mammals she wouldn’t have wanted the any Orca to suffer. This was the fault of the only people to blame SEAWORLD! They didn’t keep staff update to on this orca’s past behavioural histories unfortunately this puts everyone at risk. They made X amounts in dollars 💸 with Tilikium in different shows and using his sperm in different breeding programs. Money was more important than safety of their staff. These are beautiful mammals intelligent animals their home is in the oceans 🌊 not in a goldfish bowl. This should happen. These animals unfortunately wouldn’t live long in sea if released as don’t have wild skills required after living all of lives in captivity.

[@julianadamico4702]

At one point she was holding his fin so the public could get a good look at him .in another scene, she kept dumping water on his fin , and throwing water on his head..... is this the proper handling of Whales ?

[@tessdurberville711]

She provoked him with the water, throwing the bricks of jelly. Then she lay down on the slide out, in the water,which every trainer there was expressly told not to do. Suicide by orca?

[@fusion451]

All that crap about relationships with animals didnt mean shit She withheld food from a hungry 12,000 pound predator for not doing a stupid trick so he ripped her to shreds lesson learned Dont poke the bear !

[@kathryndalton9867]

Poor Tilikum. Condolences to the trainers family but we saw this show multiple times. Tilikum had been taken from his mother no doubt. We met Shamu and Tilikum. Tilikum was prob stressed out all the shows. 3 a day!

[@BossierBratInnaChat]

Orcas aren’t violent with humans in the wild.

[@beckydennis6591]

Not 1 case. In fact the videos I've seen, they are very friendly with the humans

[@laurabonnell582]

They are very smart and with good memory. He was taking from his pod his family. He angry you people wont return him back in the wild. But you keep using them for human internment. There never been any attacks in wild from them. Only in captivity. If you expect me feel bad for those people who works in those places hell no!!! I feel bad for those animals.

[@charlotteprillaman2270]

Sea world needs to be accountable. Poor whales are mistreated!!

[@jpadma9]

Sound quality sucks..

[@cubnation]

You can see that they are not 100% physically healthy, let alone, mentally healthy from being kept in a tiny pool as opposed to the big blue ocean. 😔 Just shameful and sickening watching them "doing tricks." 😖😖😖

[@tessdurberville711]

Which ocean is blue? They all look dirty to me.

[@cubnation]

@@tessdurberville711 The ocean is not treated with chlorine, and more importantly, Killer Whales travel hundreds of miles in a straight line everyday. Without that they become unhealthy and the dorsal fin breaks down.

[@29tenshi]

I Will never go sea world

[@franmellor9843]

Perhaps he was frustrated , keeping to his end of the bargain 'performing ' and not getting enough of the reward ( fish) it was running really low and he sensed IT

[@outoftime7740]

Exactly what happened. Dawn asked Tilikum to swim around the perimeter of the pool waving his pectoral fin. Which he did. Dawn whistled for him to come back and saying you did it right. But Tilikum didn’t hear her whistle. So when he got back . She told him No reward you did it wrong. And that pissed him off. Enough to mutilate her. He is a big boy who was hungry. You never screw animals with food.

[@utterlynice1]

Imagine being taken out of your natural surroundings and being put in a pool only 30 feet wide or 60 feet wide and 20 feet deep so you can now perform for others being ripped from your family and everything that you know! He didn’t revert back to an animal he was an animal to begin with. The people who took him captive turned him into this. Too many times people have witnessed their behaviors In captivity that make them go crazy. And buy her own mouth she admitted no one gets in the water with him because of his aggression and two incidences before this. SeaWorld is responsible! And they should put every single wild thing they took back where it belongs!

[@jennifernordhoff6478]

She also drown. It is listed on her autopsy report.

[@AyurHom]

You bloody Sea World. You need to rekease the video killing Dawn. You need to be closed down forever.