Death from Above - AH1Z - Squad GE CAS

[@Netzach_]

CAS when there's no any aa is too OP

[@jadenpiercey1549]

FR

[@UtopianMatt]

Wagner Massacree recreation

[@legitspartan9102]

i mean. there are TOWs and all the armor had 30 mil autocannons that could've shot them down, but nobody was paying attention to them

[@theslayer9164]

@@legitspartan9102 yea but a tow is wire guided missisle if they are gonna have a mod for these the mod creator shoould make AA gun n aa rocket

[@keyboardwarrior9199]

Stingers when

[@13mrpink]

unfair without them,tbf.

[@Astrojamus]

@@13mrpink AA GUNS DESTROY THIS

[@Astrojamus]

@@13mrpink NVM ITS UNFAIR

[@我很中二-w1z]

Add stinger and then the helicopter avatar cry said add countermeasures(more works to done with)

[@jsoundsonline]

dope shit. I been playing squad for a hot min and id say you 2 are a perfect team for this AH1Z

[@amerikhan8507]

Need MANPADs and maybe only get 1 attack heli per round. This is OP as fuck lol.

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@amerikhan8507 Some layers actually have no-respawn vipers, but they 100% need to add better AA (Manpads, SPAA for all factions, etc.)

[@cumcumson5661]

@@noimyourfather4640A Shilka would be a good idea i think, most redfor nations had them at one point or another. Very high rpm and better sights than the ZU-23 vics/emplacements. Have you played the Ka-27 CAS in GE yet? I havent had the chance and i wonder how it stacks up to the Viper.

[@MRParca]

2:09 "No he's stationary" "yeah, cuz his shooting at us, think about it"

[@ryanoglesbee1075]

If this was battlefield you would have had 147 stingers shot at you

[@galacticdragon9841]

the ge mod could really use some new aa emplacements for all factions, the attack helis are so op if the pilot knows what they are doing and because they are faster than transport helis, they are so much more annoying to shoot down and for factions like the canadian army, there is no hope in shooting down helis because slow firing ifvs + no 50 cals.

[@ComfortsSpecter]

We aren’t in Battlefield anymore Dorothy Adorable chandeliering Great work

[@nitratesoap]

I’d recommend instead of orbiting to stay on station in an O-shape, incorporate real AH-1Z tactics and loiter in a 4-Leaf Clover route, maximizing time facing the enemy with dumb fire and hellfire munitions.

[@sdeluen]

That was some class piloting gents.

[@Ghost-vo6ev]

This would be a good addition for Vanilla Squad into the Air Assault regiment 2x transport 1x Logi 2x LUV 3x Heli 1x Attack Heli [15 mins spawn] NO HAT, NO TANKS, NO ATGM EMPLACEMENT because boy this Attack heli OP as fuck

[@galacticdragon9841]

relying on two people to single handedly kill all the enemy armor? no thanks.

[@Ghost-vo6ev]

@@galacticdragon9841 every faction pros and cons, just launch 2 air to ground missile not hard

[@theborg6024]

the entire team being reliant on one asset to play the game is a horrid idea even if that one asset actually does its job. if it works its just 2 people using a delete button repeatedly to win the game. if the other team has competent people to kill it it flips to an entire team being lmao'd because 2 people die. even in vanilla right now your team losing the armor fight results in 10+ minutes of vic curb stomp, why would I want to make that even worse?

[@Ghost-vo6ev]

@@theborg6024 the armor battalion paradox

[@СологубМирослав]

you were so rude to the first grandma you we coorperating with and then you replaced him, grim

[@derubermuller5971]

The only CAS heli I could remotely see in vanilla is UH-1Y that was in V3 and a Mi-8 for air assault and marines plus the MH-60M and the Lynx for the brits it all comes down to dumb rockets & door gunners with limited spawns for balance

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@derubermuller5971 Devs already leaked a few variants of the little bird armed with Rockets and mini guns. I think there's a lot of (still balanced) options with proper implementation for Manpads and better SPAA

[@sta255_]

Squad should become a full fledged war simulator. MANPADs, SPAA, actual pilots for jets, thermals, a realistic damage model for all vehicles, 155mm artillery, UCAVs you name it. It has a lot of potential

[@wilsoda23]

all of these are totally possible but id be fine with no player jets cus the maps are kinda small for planes

[@chaotickreg7024]

I would hate to fracture the community even more, but a Squad: Advanced Warfare could be cool.

[@wilsoda23]

@chaotickreg7024 perfect idea for a mod tho, theres already total overhauls like galactic contention which legit simulates star wars battles

[@chaotickreg7024]

@@wilsoda23 I just discovered that today, I'l have to try it out

[@RU_Bear]

Какая же это грязь... надеюсь в ванилу не добавят атакующие вертолеты. А то это будет полный аут

[@karlson2804]

They already did it. Just wait for a new update, lol.

[@masondarsney5827]

Messed around this this for about 5 minutes with a friend. Giggled for the first 3 minutes, felt progressively worse every minute afterwards. Felt unfair because it is. GE is such a badly made mod, and people ask for it in vanilla squad 😂 its good for shits and giggles, but i cant say i have ever had a good game of it

[@theborg6024]

shiny toys are all well and good until 2 people are playing 95% of the game in a 50v50. never understood how people enjoy that kind of thing more than a handful of times

[@rob1991]

@@theborg6024 People enjoy these moments because 90% of the time they have to deal with the randomness of teams, SL's, Commanders, etc either whining or throwing their games because trying to get 50 people on 1 team to work together is like trying to put a cranky baby to bed. I do agree with you that GE as a mod needs to stay as a mod because there is plenty of broken material that doesn't belong in Vanilla Squad because it would only make people lone wolf more and make the experience overall worse for the handful of people who actually want to communicate and work together. Though real change will never happen with the constant battle over casual gamers and hardcore "milsim" players in Squad currently that is only hurting the playerbase and not growing it.

[@caonguyenduong6140]

seem like the hellfire missle on that ah1z are just bassicly a tow anti tanks missle

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@caonguyenduong6140 Pretty much, but you can't guide them, they just fly a straight path once fired

[@partytime8704]

Doesn’t seem so op now that they added the Phalanx and Shilka AA guns. Feels like you can’t go anywhere on the map as CAS without taking AA fire anymore 😢

[@marywiza]

Lethal completely lethal crew

[@snapturtle3253]

battlefield 4 players just got severe PTSD

[@marcusfanning7513]

First clip was pure filth good shit gang

[@gordonbrown1122]

This is OP as fuck god damn.

[@dominicnguyen4802]

How are you able to aim your hellfires consistently without a HUD for the pilot? I tried using the same aimpoint but it depends on the angle of attack

[@Pekn-xn3lj]

Хорошая работа , но по мне это дисбаланс)) разве нет оружия там воздух-воздух? почему никто не стрелял? у нас на РУ серверах чуть ли палками не кидают да бы сбить вертолет

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@Pekn-xn3lj Yes, it's very unbalanced at the moment, GE really needs to add Manpads and SPAA for all factions

[@Oboar]

This reminds me of the battlefield heli

[@FingleDirk]

I haven’t played squad In at least two years. For those that have played against these CAS helicopters how annoying are they? Do they completely ruin a good experience or what because they don’t seem very balanced..

[@fete0]

CAS mods lacks proper AA for balancing

[@Aphichat.]

There already an AA. But not many people want to take it out.

[@cumcumson5661]

@@Aphichat.Many blufor factions dont get dedicated AA guns/emplacements.

[@Cihelka69]

this is op as shit legit no counterplay, and I'm a pilot lmao

[@shibbet]

1 tow

[@gonkdroid6301]

@@shibbet still op as fuck lol

[@babyclifford1759]

@@shibbetgood luck… You have to get a logi to an area before it kills you. Then you have to build the tow Then you have to hit a shot against a pilot like this

[@galacticdragon9841]

@@shibbet can't really hit a heli with a tow if the heli is flying right above you sending rockets your way.

[@sunnythedummy3153]

I love the video but hate that you posted i can see now the amount of new guys squad stealing and immediately crashing it lmfao GOOD FLYING KEEP IT UP

[@Jo_Bjera]

This is dope! What mod is this? Is it the Steel division?

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@Jo_Bjera No, this is Global Escalation, GE

[@Jo_Bjera]

@@noimyourfather4640 Cheers!

[@theBroG]

I REALLY wanna fly as a gunner for a good pilot!

[@karlson2804]

noob :((

[@theBroG]

@karlson2804 what? I have 2k hrs kid lmao

[@monkeyman2074]

@@theBroG noob :((

[@theBroG]

@@monkeyman2074 lmao ok kid

[@firstLast-jw7bm]

@@theBroG noob :((

[@Matkovic99]

How do the pilot hellfires work? Do they just fire perfectly straight from where the nose of the chopper is pointing? I have hundreds of hours doing CAS in Project Reality, seems the implementation for CAS in GE is weird af lmao

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@Matkovic99 Yes, they have no guidance at the moment, they fly a straight path once you fire them

[@saltyspitoon792]

This doesn't even seem fair, only seems fun for the ppl in the chopper

[@fuzertv2479]

which squad mod is that? you are so cool in a pilot position BTW keep it up

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@fuzertv2479 It's GE mod, global escalation

[@FordMustangGTRocks]

THC is the best server for GE, best community of players for sure

[@ambroiserabier4294]

How to break balance and make the round bad for everyone else ?

[@jackmacleod-maclean4206]

I actually played this game against you and wholly shit was it demoralising. Not in the gg well done boys you had better teamwork, comms, and coordination way that I love to see and be apart of in squad. Instead in a completely unbalanced, absolutely fun sapping way. I'm really not sure what to think about this clip.... Like did you honestly have fun? If so was it still fun in the next 3 games you proceeded to ace our team. Do you think your armor and infentey teammates had fun whilst not getting a lick of enemy engagement.... Because our team definetly didn't. By the 2nd to last point we didn't even bother spawning in because honestly what was the point. Good flying and all but I will honestly tell you that I've put squad down for a bit after playing this match with you....

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@jackmacleod-maclean4206 It's was action packed, but it certainly isn't healthy for the majority of the player base on the server. I've done a bunch of videos like this from Mods like SD, GC, and alike, usually to show that the skill of a very small group shouldn't have such a large impact on the match as a whole. In the current form, the CAS Helis in GE, even MI8 cas, etc. are in no way balanced, but that's modded squad for 'ya, lets just hope OWI learns this lesson from Mods instead of making the balancing mistakes themselves (throwback to UH-1Y on Skorpo)

[@faizanzeb9215]

@@noimyourfather4640 In project reality, you usually can't hover with gunships at altitude where you're visible from the ground. You get over a target area you know you have to hit, and then dive upon the area to unleash rockets or just lose altitude and loiter around for your gunner to do the job. In PR, we've got man-pads. We can also put anti-air emplacement along with the tow. And finally, the scariest thing is an anti-air vehicle.

[@usokitsuki]

@@faizanzeb9215 in PR most vehicles and aircraft also don't happen to be silly bullet sponges and die very quickly to accurate fire. Contrast this with flying bunkers of Squad.

[@5EVr]

​@@noimyourfather4640 you would agree I assume that even the dedicated SPAA is insufficient right? I see other people in these comments trying to blame people not using an SPAA (when there even is one) and so I kind of wanted your thoughts on that.

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@5EVr Absolutely, SPAA isn't enough, against the viper is really has to be used in an ambush setting which is hard, because a cautious crew will pick their engagements carefully. Manpads in correlation with a limited amount of counter measures for the helicopters would mean you want to be unpredictable as CAS, go in with pre-flares and get back out, not like in the video where we stayed in the same spot for minutes because be just kept an eye on their assets. The range at which the viper can engage is just too far for any SPAA/auto cannon to be effective, as much as it would look crap, a hard view distance limit like in PR might make sense to stop that, add more (literal) fog-of-war to keep helis on their toes

[@theodorruthern8028]

adding attack helicopters, but not stinger missile launchers ...

[@Radicalhimself]

how do always hit the hell fires

[@luger700]

Does the Viper have unique engine audio, or is it just the Venom’s audio?

[@theborg6024]

sounds like 100% unchanged venom audio. honestly just from what im seeing here it looks like this thing is based off the venom fm as well. probably used it as a starting model or something

[@luger700]

@@theborg6024 I wonder how difficult it would be to rip the audio from Battlefield 3 or 4’s AH-1Z Viper… There are the mod tools ‘Venice Unleashed’ (BF3) and ‘Warsaw Revamped’ (BF4) that could be used to rip the files.

[@josephsendejas3572]

Both use the same engines and have no difference in audio in real life

[@Max83838]

Do you play well, and missiles with automatic guidance?

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@Max83838 No, the missiles have no guidance. They fly a straight path, so ideally the target doesn't move

[@Sunesen]

I guess we understand now why normal Squad decided to not do attack helicopters. It's simply too unbalanced.

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@Sunesen You didn't hear the news? Later this week we get the Loach CAS heli, and OWI isn't adding Manpads. They learned nothing from the CAS helis in modded, it laughable

[@Sunesen]

@@noimyourfather4640 Nope I had not heard it, but I guess it's not too bad since it's not a "proper" attack heli. Doesn't seem to be a armor killer as much as its a very fragile infantry support vehicle. Will be interesting to see how the community reacts to it.

[@Sovietdoge-zz3im]

Ok we need the stinger or 9k38 igla like NOW

[@MrTastyM7]

2:10 don’t you love when your friend some stupid shit and you feel your brain cells killing themselves

[@Bottleman1999]

BTR has a stablised gun, it doesnt have to stop to shoot. His friend was calm in most disagreement. Its a game

[@TUROCK320]

ahah yes because of different knowledge. The pilot shpould have 5K hours as pilot, and the gunner have zero, so he think like a blueberry, it is , normal. Some people think the machine gun (7,62mm) can dammage an armor lol !

[@crazytactics3603]

OP af

[@ianking.5721]

Did not know they added attack choppers to squad kinda looks op without better aa

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@ianking.5721 It's modded Squad, and yes, it's super unbalanced right now

[@semyonkotlyarov5092]

Yeeeee, lets ruin milsim into batllefield where aircraft is op in right hands. But bf at least have manpads and shorads.

[@matthewmeizoso8723]

How do you aim the pilot hellfires

[@greytillgraveee]

its so fcking overpowered without proper IGLAs or STINGERs, to the point its better to disconnect and just not play when enemy team has good pilots that know what they are doing

[@broygamer3338]

how do u aim your hellfire from pilot seat?

[@Smokasaurus]

Looks like he's just eyeballing it like rockets. He also seems to fire at least two missiles every time, I'm assuming this is a habit due to eyeballing it.

[@iitzjimmy7777]

i play squad i didnt see any helly like this how they are playing with this ?

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@iitzjimmy7777 It's modded Squad. The mod is called Global Escalation, it has a few different CAS heli types

[@iitzjimmy7777]

@@noimyourfather4640 thx i played it yesterday thx mate

[@yes_silek]

Oh god, I think that's vanilla gameplay 😅

[@ThrowingClips]

Hudsight brain rot

[@nikolalikic7997]

Pilot so ez fly low omg

[@monostripeexplosiveexplora2374]

nice one

[@devjan3452]

What is the name of the server?

[@noimyourfather4640]

This was on TRI

[@generate2day]

How tf are you even aiming ?.?

[@daxmack]

12:30 i think thats over kill XD

[@traubeminzeberlin]

careful there was the n word at 12:22 in chat. you might want to blur that.

[@macanudisisimo]

All this get fix by implementinf AA Ground to Air

[@Zemssssss]

need more videos like this pls

[@Czecher86]

so there are hellfires but no S6 or Pansir? where is balance to this crap..

[@noimyourfather4640]

@@Czecher86 There is no balance. Modded Squad is mostly for people coping about the ICO, for them, balance doesn't matter as much as fun toys.

[@ThrowingClips]

Oh also your gunner is awful 😂

[@wouterensteefschuitenvanvu1314]

being high enough for buildings and stuff not to render kekw, legit takes no skill at all.

[@noimyourfather4640]

I totally agree that sky-boxing is currently too powerful because of render distance for buildings, etc. I'd like to see a dense fog similar to how PR restricted view distance. But at what part in this video did we engage a target we wouldn't have been able to see? Anytime we were over the villages, airfields, all buildings were close enough to render.

[@VaSKovach]

Nice way to kill a server

[@holeefuk8535]

the two biggest virgins on squad 🤓

[@TRUCKASARUSREX]

keep malding

[@ritoreport7653]

What a way to ruin a game by adding this thing into the game.

[@ALaaMturki]

Bad Graphics

[@Aphichat.]

There is andAA, people just dont want to play it. People just dont want to sit in the AA gun and wait. If they have one dedicated AA. Their wont be a single heli in the air. But everyone just want to be in the front. When you play AA, your just going to be alone by your self. Watching the sky. It is boring. That is why no one take it.

[@5EVr]

Not all factions have one I'd have to look and see if the opposing has one here but even with them the ranges his nose gunner is hitting these shots from with the atgm or the fact he can hover right above nose down and dump hellfires above your firing angle (or just dump HE at you since most SPAA are open top) make a single aa vehicle with no missiles or radar tracking etc at best a faint hope you will stop this helicopter. Pmuch all AA is gonna have to hit him multiple times to even crit him whereas a spray of HE or missiles basically one hit disables you and then he's reallllllly coming for you

[@cumcumson5661]

Just wrong, many factions dont get AA vics and the viper has a massive engagement range.