Death Korp Marshalls are BROKEN! | 10th Edition | Astra Militarum Tactics

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[@mackenzieblair8135]

Being able to afford that many GW Krieg models is another story altogether.

[@sircrim8694]

yeah lol, I'll go proxy in your shoes !

[@gregburkholder8724]

Elegoo saturn 2 8k go brrrrrrrrr

[@simonswitzer7278]

Just buy a regular commissar model and find a spare gas mask head somewhere. Easy fix.

[@drabantcorper4727]

Well i kitbash mine XD

[@adddad9779]

3d printer says brrrrrr.....

[@Git_Kraken]

Marshals are the entire reason I started collecting Krieg.

[@MontuPlays]

Alright, you've sold me on Krieg. Now I'll just have to find some models, as my old Cadians will feel wrong as Krieg

[@MordianGlory]

Love your videos man! And yes baby!!!!!!!!!

[@muricadizzy4011]

I play My cadians and catchcan as krieg. But I didn't know this

[@FunnyTaco143]

I ran one in a full kreig squad with a Psyker and with us agreeing about the medpack working once. That team held an objective against a Grey Knight strike squad w/ a Champion attached and then later a terminator squad because I kept getting lucky on both types of feel no pains and then I could fall back and let my Russ and my Basilisk fire on position. They did fall eventually but they held so well that they were my only unit to fully die.

[@simonswitzer7278]

That's a bit silly if you can only use it once :(

[@chrisdowning3153]

First time using these guys today. 3 squads of 20 kreig with one of these marshalls in each squad. Amazing how many times my brothers space marines couldn't kill anything from the squad! MIND BLOWN!

[@gamingborger]

i figured out the marshal, platoon command squad, 20 kriegsman combo for a couple weeks now. realized for a while anyone taking this is definitely in it for the long haul and hard to deal with if not deleted in one turn.

[@denisloebner4882]

imo one of the main advantages of the platoon squad merged with a frontline troops blob is the 6+ fnp. so with the marshal that would be a nonbo. id rather throw a platoon squad far into the back with extra order enhancement and a mortar to give take aim to 2 medusas/earthshaker carriages per turn.

[@whitemiasma5288]

Where are you guys finding the points cost to this unit?

[@gamingborger]

@@whitemiasma5288 oh. theres free download to all the points for units on the warhammer community. the PDF you're looking for is called munitorum field manual.

[@darkfleet8092]

The Krieg marines made me the man I am today.

[@plasticskulls]

A dead man?

[@birkkarlsson3989]

I have used 3 marshal in about 6 games so far in combination and without primaries psykers. Marshals are S+++ amazing in 20 blob Kreig squads. The look on aponents faces when 10 thousand sons flamers just bounce of guardsmen is beautiful.

[@rodneygaul2227]

Reporting for Duty , Sir Death Korp Marshall for Death Korps = Ms Creed for Cadians = Straken for Catachen Just different special abilities that specialize with their Regiment

[@dominicl5862]

I like the Death Korp Marshall and I don't think he should be changed; however, I think he's over tuned compared to other options in the Guard. I'm just waiting for other Detachment rules that support super mobile tank guard (Tallarn style) and maybe close-q melee (Catachan style). If your preferred guard army style is Krieg with huge amounts of "out of line of sight" this edition is HOT right now. Don't get me wrong I'm still gonna run Straken + Catachans + Platoon Squad.

[@Astralwolf23]

"Turned me into a one man A frame." Had me in stitches mate xD

[@mattcoleman3146]

Had gabriel seth, 10 assault marines and sanguinary priest bounce off 20 man krieg and marshal! The combo works sooo good! And they d3 came back in my turn it was amazing!

[@keyanklupacs6333]

And we still don't know if they're returning 1d3 per 10 models in the squad now either.

[@Iocanthos]

But wait! It gets better! If your krieg boys have a vox on them, when you use the cult of sacrifice ability, you get 1CP on top of that on a 4+!

[@Gromeish]

4up ranged invul and 5up fnp is a must. I had ranged eldar and knight shooting bounce off that combo. It also allows you to move move move. On many tables you can turn 1 advance and rush objectives and gum up the board.

[@panch0vanilla416]

This Strat does work went against a custodes and I had 1 DOK squad with the Psyker and Marshal they didn’t die until turn 3 and I managed to kill 3 spear guards in the process

[@mortenchristiansen5884]

Have you noticed btw about the Death Korps of Krieg troopers. They no longer have the Medpack Ability. in the army builder tool straight from GW. it is still not updated on the Erata. but it might come later on.

[@simonswitzer7278]

It's there now if you haven't seen ;)

[@Knightstruth]

Cool! I have one od these. Guess I should get more....

[@operator9858]

when you made the platoon vid i couldnt understand why you werent talking about the marsh instead lol

[@adamcarey6093]

ran mine up the middle to the center objective last game. ir was surrounded in ruins. they took. they held. and nobody could dislodge them.

[@markhohenbrink5230]

1 thing you didnt talk about is how the Marshal also has a 25mm base compared to the base Castellans 28.5mm. Additionally, the Cadian Command squad has 28.5mm bases but the Platoon Command has 25mm as well. Is it a major advantage, probably not but it shaves a few mm off the large units footprint.

[@SubSonicEctomorph]

I’m coming back after not playing for a few editions. I’m trying to wait until the rumoured Krieg book, before moving passed 1k points. Godspeed our book, GW!

[@BloodBuffalo]

So I just realized I have one of these. I thought my guy was just a kreig style commissar my friend gave me. I didn't know he was one of these.

[@ka1juhunt3r]

only downside to having him make the kriegers so tanky is that they will never get off there ability to get +1 to hit often and almost never wound, which is the strangest thing to hear from guard infantry but i guess it balances out in the points of the marshall and making it harder to give krieg bonuses.

[@TheWiggleTuff]

That's definitely not true. They're tanky but not invincible. You're definitely losing a few models each shooting phase

[@JoshMC2000]

Hum Its a Power weapon. I think Station Forge Yarrick models are goanna get repainted as this to go with my Kregi infantry

[@DeltaHouseStudios]

Almost done painting my new Marshal 😏

[@cesarsotillo784]

I think the main problem the guard has in 10th edition it's that it is an extremely pillowfisted army. You need a Hellhound+a Leman Russ Exterminator+Fields of fire just to lower the armor of 1 unit enough for the rest of your army to finish it off. I face mostly space marines and mechanized armies and can't find an army list that allows me to both play the mission and also kill some of my opponent's pieces. Anything that has a 2+ save (most heavy infantry and vehicles) is pretty much unkilleable for most of a 2000pts Astra Militarum army list.

[@AndrBR0]

Cadian Castellan, Commissar, and named ones have 5++

[@MrPoopoopants]

You know what would be great? If GW would actually sell this model. Yes you read this right, it's not even part of the current FW catalog. I am using an old quartermaster model as proxy. It's completely bananas.

[@uwesca6263]

A dkok combat patrol with a command squad, 20 kriegers, 5 dkok horseman and 2 squads of heavy weapon teams would be great. Add in 2 types of upgrade sprues, one with 10 armored chestplates and hotshot lasgun backpacks for grenadiers and an pack with combat shotguns for engineers would be a godsend. And i would buy 3 of them xD

[@user-ld8vh4io2n]

One thing I didn't hear mentioned: The Marshall is even more of an auto include now that artillery guard have been nuked from orbit and infantry guard are looking like the most viable competitive strategy.

[@keyanklupacs6333]

Nuked from orbit is a bit dramatic. Guard Indirect is actually more oppressive now if you take carriages. Everything else got punished more. What was the counter to carriages? Other indirect which other armies are now being discouraged from running

[@timsanders33]

I know carriages win out on paper, the gap between them and basilisks and manticore should have been shortened not lengthened. Mortars and now better than a wyvern. The poor FOB's! Both the rapiers and 2 heavy weapons lascannon squads look better than a heavy Las, it didn't even have indirect fire!

[@user-ld8vh4io2n]

@@keyanklupacs6333 that's kind of the point I was trying to make. They hit everything indiscriminately. We may still be competitive with carriages, time will tell. But infantry guard are looking really good.

[@aspookyeel]

Quick question, because I've been a little confused by this. But what Krieg units have specific (official GW rules, as in, they're included in the Index Card set) rules? Because I've also heard a lot of Krieg is just cosmetic flavour.

[@uulmshar]

There is a specific Death Korps of Krieg unit in the dataslate; it costs 65 points to the normal infantry unit of 60 points.

[@tonitoni9984]

What do you guys think about my first 2000pts army list? Lord Solar Leontus + Platoon Command Squad + 20 Death Korps of Krieg Ursula Creed + Cadian Command Squad + 20 Cadian Shock Troops 2x (20 Death Korps of Krieg + Death Korps Marshal + Primaris Psyker) 3x Basilisk 3x Manticore 3x (1 Scout Sentinels) Which comes to 1995 pts

[@markhohenbrink5230]

Idk if this is with the new points, but it seems solid. Also, earth shaker carrage batteries imo are better than basilisks especially when standard officers can order them eventhough they are BS 5+

[@LB-yg2br]

so do you run 2x plasma gunners or 1x plasma and 1x vox caster in your 20 man blobs?

[@range8533]

silly question, how do you include tw leaders in the squad for the invun and the fnp?

[@Tony_SaltBlock]

Question. Where is the data sheet for this model located? Also how much points is it? Thanks.

[@UncleBashface1]

FOR KRIEG!

[@user-xg2pd3ek9u]

Looking for a good Marshal Karis Venner stl.

[@pawe6199]

Where is Death Corps Marshal in index? I downloaded Index pdf and I cannot find this datasheet

[@grahamcooke7489]

Does anyone know how the insane bravery works in relation to this after the balance data slate? Because it's now once per game...

[@Rusty_Rich]

Where is this index card found? It's not in the Guard index? EDIT: Never mind, it's in the "Imperial Armour Datasheets" section; Imperial Armour: Astra Militarum Part 1

[@WarCommissar1]

add a command squad or psyker as backup?

[@elisecunliffe1123]

A FNP on a krieg blob is why you're not allowed medpacks anymore.

[@heribertocastro6652]

Question: Isn't the marshal and psyker two separate characters? Can a krieg squad have two characters? If so, where can i find this in the core rulebook if applicable? Thanks!!!

[@anderslundtoft2315]

How many characters are we allowed to put into 1 unit of infantery?

[@uulmshar]

1 character per unit, afaik

[@simonswitzer7278]

x4 20 Man Death Korps Squads with all the trimmings. 3 Marshals and Lord Solar attached in said squads, Scout Sentinels and x3 each Manticores and Basilisk and and Engineer. You're opponent's will call you anti-fun but I call it. "Pew pew pew"😅😂

[@funbro99]

The better commissar

[@crimsonwolf7303]

Where can you pick some of them up? I'm having a hard time finding them online.

[@michalkowalski240]

Use Death Korps Commisar, this model goes as DKOK Marshal in most tournaments.

[@orinwing5442]

Mordian I’m lost bro, I can’t find anywhere on the warhammer app where it says death korps have a) the ability to take a med pack b) the ability to bring back models. It was in the leaks but not on the app :(

[@andrepereira8823]

It's not on the app cause GW messed up and didn't include a "x models can take" clause which means it doesn't show up on the app. Have a look at the indexes online.

[@orinwing5442]

@@andrepereira8823 thank you 🙏🏻

[@backinthelapse]

I started my dk army years ago whr they were trash and now I have a feeling they are gonna be everywhere

[@alexandrlidin2323]

Okay, is it me is the platoon command squad just flat out better? Sure, the FNP from the medic is only a 6+, and there's no insane bravery shenanigans, but it seems to me the +1 OC from the banner, the added wounds and bodies and the potential punch from either a HWT or a special really skew the scales here (the master-vox exists too I guess). And that's not to mention the attaches, namely the master of artillery, who I feel is an actual auto-include if you're going for the artillery meta. Am I in the wrong here? Hadn't played any games yet so pure theory-craft here, so I'd be honored to be corrected by ye longbeards out there.

[@Indigo33-11]

It’s auto include cos unfortunately 10th is gonna be one army build for every faction. Soon very soon people will work out the optimal list and all you will see is identical lists everywhere. That’s 10th edition

[@benjaminkingsley3902]

180 guard? With ridiculous survivability? Perfectly balanced as all things should be 👍

[@longhunter5935]

Is that card in the card box?!? I don’t see it in mine.

[@CoolGuy-sv6kn]

FW model, so probably not

[@deryckeisner2889]

How many points is a marshal

[@migraine8746]

Three thumbs up if you have been infiltrated by the genestealer cult 😂 👍👍👍 Nice video keep em coming.

[@leea4469]

well. glad i have an unpainted death korps marshall lying around. I have a game in an hour so lets get painting.

[@necalovescake]

[@mikes2321]

Yes Like 1

[@blackvalordragoon]

best unit 2nd to lord solar you mean

[@ColonelHoganStalag13]

The big downside to the Lord Solar is the model is hideous looking. I am not interested in Age of Sigmar crap leading my Krieg around. Maybe I'll convert a Krieg model into a Lord Solar but I refuse to use that GW model.

[@uwesca6263]

​@@ColonelHoganStalag13there is on the warhammer community page a pretty great conversation of the lord solar to a krieg marshall. Overall i find it a bit sad that we got normal cavalarie instead of dkok deathriders.

[@dannydementia2542]

Im going to try them with 20man inf sqauds with double heavy bolters until gw clarifies med packs for kreig sqauds.

[@edwardthormann1928]

GW employee watching this vid be like, Yep time to nerf

[@Khobai]

if you survive long enough to get promoted to a senior officer in death korps youre doing it wrong

[@Valkyrie_3d]

Wtf the marine apothecary doesn't even have a FNP anymore and it was a 6! In 9th

[@keyne444]

Then I'm doing it WRONG. Sorry for not being FILTHY RICH!!! ;C;

[@ColonelHoganStalag13]

@@corvidae9653 Also, you can model one from a Krieg sergeant and put a cape on him with greenstuff. He will have a special feel for you if you converted a model.

[@wyatttyson7737]

Unfortunately you can't attach both a Marshall and a Psyker on to the same unit. You can only double up on Characters if one of those characters has the Command Squad keyword. In other words, you can have a Marshall and a Command Squad, or a Psyker and Command Squad, but not a Marshall and Psyker.

[@adamcarey6093]

You, sir, are incorrect

[@Iocanthos]

No, you are limited to one command squad being attached per unit, that is the only limitation:" *This unit can have up to two Leader units attached to it, provided no more than one of those units is a Command Squad unit.* If it does, and this Bodyguard unit is destroyed, the Leader units attached to it become separate units, with their original Starting Strengths"

[@wyatttyson7737]

@@Iocanthos Huh. Either I'm dyslexic or a bit retarded. Probably both. I thought it said "this unit can have up to two Leader units attached to it, provided one is a Command Squad." Time to rework some lists.

[@keyanklupacs6333]

Ya you can goober.

[@whitemiasma5288]

@@keyanklupacs6333 Are any of you men using the Baneblade in any of these lists? I was using one with four sponsons the last few months of 9th, and it was blowing the ever-living daylights out of and grinding over everything. Haven't played a 10th game yet.

[@froghugger41]

Mate you've gotta stop posting this or GW will nerf them like they did our arty 😂

[@whitemiasma5288]

Where are you finding this nerf to the artillery? What is it?

[@froghugger41]

@@whitemiasma5288 reflexive points hike

[@fox21231]

Krieg troops need to go up to 70 points for 10 and the marshal needs to go up to 70 points as well. They are just so much better than the other infantry options

[@keyanklupacs6333]

Naw.

[@jacksonwoodward8723]

Who do you think you are? Death Guard? Get tf outta here with your heresy

[@whitemiasma5288]

Pipe down!

[@fox21231]

@@keyanklupacs6333 If not than the other infantry choices need to go down in points. Cadians and Catachans are a joke compared to krieg.

[@SargeJTQ]

Would be nice if you would stop listing Krieg as broken and overpowered when there's so many stronger armies. Krieg have been terrible for a long time, not to mention the undeserved stigma on FW models and armies. So the fact they are finally performing at decent levels now is something to be encouraged. Click bait ttles like these make GW and other people want to nerf them out the gate. -A renegade and Krieg player since Vraks.

[@jayteegamble]

Everything Krieg is really broken. All other infantry is just way worse.

[@operator9858]

the new cadians then?

[@keyanklupacs6333]

Nah, regular infantry platoons are super legit with heavy weapon options.

[@TheMarcosvolta]

*happy gas mask noises*