Death of a Surrogate Causes Chaos | New Amsterdam | MD TV

When a surrogate suffers tragic complications during childbirth, the father of the baby learns that his New Jersey surrogacy contract is invalid in the state of New York so the child is not considered his.
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[@Nyotakikora1]

He is not their grandson. Biologically, he is the fathers. So as painful as it is, the grandparents entitlement is distorted.

[@DanDCool]

He is both-

[@Nyotakikora1]

@@DanDCool Technically NO. It was no her egg.

[@shamimaa]

@@Nyotakikora1 Yeah technically, the egg and sperm are not hers so not biologically her kid, but those two cells fed off her body and strength for like 9 months, caused major bodily changes, and she even died from the complications of rearing him... So genetically not her child, but yes it is her pregnancy and she is a mom in her own right. Moms carry and bring babies into the world.

[@DigiDestined13]

Right, but grief isn't practical. None of us really know how we would handle a situation like that until we're in it, so we can have a little sympathy for both parties involved.

[@Nyotakikora1]

@@DigiDestined13 I have sympathy for them.. As they just lost their daughter. Trust me. But at the end of the day, the fact is, the child is not their blood

[@island_girl_shan]

Surrogacy or not, why would the grandparents have more right than the biological father?

[@jamiea9634]

Because most of the laws written are from before all the surrogacy stuff was possible. Most laws assume if the baby exits your body you are the mother. Fathers get complicated. My Husband and I where not married when our son was born, we both had to sign a bunch of paperwork to get him on the birth certificate and was relatively easy because we where on the same page, just not married. In our state if we had a bad relationship I could have completely bared him at the time, he had no inherent rights. Ironically we could separate and i could have a baby with someone else, if we did not divorce husband would legally be the father no matter the situation. Eventually everything could be cleared up in the courts with DNA tests and stuff, but I would bet you would be celebrating the kids 1st b-day first. (I was entertaining the idea of being a surrogate years ago so I studied the laws.)

[@hannahyoung6762]

in the state of NY, if the parents aren't married then the bio father has zero rights to the baby.

[@vermilion6966]

@@jamiea9634 Its not even about surrogacy lmao. If he wasnt biological father thatd be one thing, but in this case the writers just fckd up. I dont live in usa but even where i live (a shitty 2 world country) if you want to be a legal parent like if you knocked someone up, no one can stop you if you go to the court and say "hey judge, im the father of that cabbage". Married or not doesnt matter. One dna test and thats it basically. Yes, you might not get that cabbage to live with you but that depends on the circumstances. If the other parent died and youre not some low life like a criminal, no one will stop you from taking it with you basically

[@vermilion6966]

@@hannahyoung6762 Makes 0 sense. Are you living in some stone age in NY or what? Why NY is so different from the rest of usa where most parents have equal rights to that? its still a biological parent which is easy to prove with the dna test. Its biologically closer to the child than its grandparents like in this case. Like. Freaking wot.

[@hannahyoung6762]

@@vermilion6966 it's NY state law...and most of the US have similar laws

[@bethia9548]

I’m sorry, but no. I work in child welfare. Fathers have right to their children before grandparents. Even if the child is older, has never met the father, and has a relationship with the grandparents. We make every effort to find fathers and give them every opportunity to be with their kids. In this situation, the child would go to the father without question.

[@ThatOneFur]

Well NY law says he doesn’t because surrogacy is illegal there. Child welfare doesn’t have shit on the law books because you gotta follow them too

[@doyouhearthepeoplesing2]

WRONG if the father isn’t on the birth certificate he has ZERO rights to the child

[@jesse5658]

I don't see how the surrogacy part has anything to do with it. Since SHE is in no way the babies actual mother, her and her parents wouldn't have a claim on the child. HE is the childs biological father. It doesn't matter if his name isn't on the birth certificate. All he'd have to do is get a DNA test, same as with any other biological father trying to get visitation rights or fight for custody. Whoever's eggs were used could have a claim to the baby, but that isn't addressed in this clip.

[@LinwoodBlackmore]

@@jesse5658 the woman who gives birth to a child is legally its mother at birth, regardless of whether it was her own egg

[@bubbles7398]

@@doyouhearthepeoplesing2 yes but they can order a DNA test to prove he’s the father just like the do for child support or custody what one parent says they have doubts about paternity.

[@inthewindago]

How the hell is it legal for a biological father not to be granted custody of his child. When the mother is unable to voice her opinions!! Honestly this is just messed up!!

[@Tbaby9361]

Only on tv lol

[@ThatSuzanneSchmid]

Yes, makes no sense

[@bees1550]

because he stated she was a saragate. he had said baby's mom (a not true statement), then it would have been different

[@OriginalCindy8]

If the surrogacy contract isn’t valid then it should just default to the biological father gaining custody.

[@lastriotgrrl]

That's what happens when you rent women for their biological functions. It's one step closer to Gilead.

[@ariannawhite2844]

Nope. This is unethical. Those “grandparents” are acting completely selfishly and unethically and THEY made it clear they WERE willing to put their “grandson” in foster care just to spite his biological father. This doesn’t make me feel bad for them this makes me sick…

[@helenholt1161]

Did you watch to the end? They relinquished custody before the dad even got down the hallway

[@lubystkaolamonola529]

How? It was the JUDGE who decided to put kid in foster care not them. They were in grief. They were struggling with accepting their's daughter death and her illegal/immoral decision of being a surrogate. We are talking about bringing a baby to the world, not making a tree house. Surrogacy should be illegal as it is already immoral. It is a difference when you want to give a child for adoption. Surrogacy creates dangerous shadow land of so many unethical disasters, that you could write book about that.

[@helenholt1161]

@@lubystkaolamonola529 It was the dispute that could have put the child in foster care. With no dispute there was no reason to do this.

[@brandiphillips5775]

They were angry and blaming him for her death.

[@sweetdaydreamer8868]

Solomon

[@cassandrahepp6445]

She even said he was the father as they were wheeling her in... smh. Her parents are NOT the grandparents but the father is the FATHER. Such a messed up scenario. The "grandparents" make me the most angry though. They are trying to replace their daughter by taking away someone elses child.

[@MrsLizziee]

He is not the father, he is just the buyer. What pisses me off is that you normalize the buying of babies and the exploitation of women. Are we selling babies now? Blessed be the fruit! ¬¬

[@cassandrahepp6445]

@@MrsLizziee his sperm, his baby. Him paying for an egg to fertilize and having his best friend willingly carry the baby is no different than a woman doing the same thing because she can't carry a child of her own. You sound extremely judgmental. Especially since I doubt YOU have ever had to face those types of choices. By your reasoning ("paying for a baby") you must be against adopting as well... Handmaids Tale? Really?

[@MrsLizziee]

@@cassandrahepp6445 Yeahh... of course! Because giving a home to a child without a family is the same as using a woman and buying a baby. It is exactly the same thing...

[@cassandrahepp6445]

@@MrsLizziee and now I can tell you are just trolling. Have a good day. You and your ignorance will have no more of my time.

[@TJ-dy1cy]

@@MrsLizziee the friend chose to do this cause she loved him (as a friend) so no using, also gross, femininazi

[@jair7327]

This just made me so mad. If you knew what your daughter was doing and that it wasn’t her baby, WHY would you try to take a cold away from his parent?

[@tesshagensieker1700]

Yeah, the grandparents feel really selfish.

[@philipmarlowe4682]

I am sure you understand both parties

[@seriascannain6675]

People in grief do not often make the most rational decisions!

[@Orinatl]

He is loosing a child and so are they.

[@noname-lo1ye]

​@@ArhimithEuropean Christian countries ban surrogacy and yes the grandparents will have 100% right to the custody, the man who ordered surrogacy service will be punished by laws, too easy to convict with so many documents proofs

[@justanothermomsamanthagh5191]

This is heartbreaking. This is not just some stranger who pays girls to carry babies. They were best friends and clearly she wanted to help him with something that was very important to him. Being a surrogacy between friends, he probably bonded with the baby already through touch and sound. The baby is not biologically related to the grandparents and is not the last piece of their daughter they have left. She was still alive and they speak like she's already gone

[@caseymarie625]

I agree

[@luciapinilla3423]

No, we women do not exist to "help friends". And babies do not come to the world to help friends. He was paying to buy himself a baby / asset. This is a crime

[@Lolamy]

@@luciapinilla3423 she wanted to help, it's her body, her choice, isn't it?

[@luciapinilla3423]

@@Lolamy are children things you can buy? It's her body her body, but that baby it's no one's property. She is the mother and will always be, he is just a selfish buyer who buys children for fun.

[@sammywilliam8156]

The grandma probably thinks that if you're not blonde hair blue eyed pure white skin and Evier not a Christian and speaking The Bible Age one you're not afraid to be alive knowing her she probably wouldn't cut the baby's head off just to have the center stage

[@Kaitou-ug5yi]

Legally, the bio father should have automatically had custody before the "grandparents"? Like it's understandable that she can't sign away her own custodial rights, but that doesn't mean the father was any farther than a paternity test away from having parental rights himself.

[@WetzforLife]

He would have so unless they could prove he was an unfit parent he would have gotten custody.

[@gracielstehley6986]

6:01

[@nikkyk4839]

This baby is not the "last piece" these people have of her daughter. It's not even her child and she never intended it to be her child. The entitlement is appalling.

[@joshuajones9035]

The grandparents even thinking they had any say in this is completely ridiculous

[@provrr]

In the emotional moment of seeing their daughter dieing, it clouded their thoughts, until they realized in the end.

[@lemonadelemon1960]

@@provrr They think they have a say because the man literally GAVE them paperwork that says they have a say. I would think I have a say if doctors gave me paperwork to sign too. I would sign as long as he would let me see the child. But i would sign nonetheless. But that's just me.

[@andressaloiola8669]

”grandparents”, because they’re not even real grandparents, just selfish monsters

[@calico27]

I just accidentally discovered this show, here on youtube and I am loving how it addresses sooo many f*cked up systems in this country!!! And really done well too!

[@yoberna9065]

Didn't we all accidentally come across this show😂😂

[@ladybug-mv8tn]

It's not real life. It's a make believe show

[@kuro.hitsuji]

Okay, I legit thought they were gonna keep the baby. The ending had me breathe a sigh of relief because how unfair if they were going to be that selfish.

[@ayoutubegirl5933]

It's their take on a Bible story. Seinfeld did the same with a bicycle. It's a good story whether you are religious or not. 😊

[@thebumblebeemovie3514]

Which Bible story?

[@micheler1077]

@@thebumblebeemovie3514 1 Kings 3:16-28 recounts that two mothers living in the same house, each the mother of an infant son, came to Solomon. One of the babies had been smothered, and each claimed the remaining boy as her own. Calling for a sword, Solomon declared his judgment: the baby would be cut in two, each woman to receive half.

[@martinosborne4703]

@@thebumblebeemovie3514 one involving king Solomon. Basically, 2 women were claiming to be the mother of a baby, 1 really was, whilst the other had lost their own. With no way to tell which was which, king Solomon offered to cut the child in two, so that each mother had half each. 1 cried out against this, and was willing for the baby to go to the other woman as long as it lived. The other woman instead agreed to the bisection. The baby went to the first woman.

[@ishaaustin971]

'We might lose our daughter so we're taking your child whom we have no blood relation to as a reminder of her even though she wouldn't want this as her intentions were AS CLEAR AS DAY'

[@demon1864]

The older woman is crying for giving up the baby who was never hers to give in the first place. The woman who carried the child to term was not the egg donor.

[@OrWhatWeHave]

Her daughter is dying. I'd be crying too.

[@TJ-dy1cy]

@@OrWhatWeHave her daughter was not dead, just dying, for all we know she could have gotten better and they took his son away from him even though the daughter made it. what if it was biologically both of their child and they were in a relationship? would they still have stolen the child? feels kind of gross to separate a family to fit your own wants, perhaps if they took the time to speak to their daughter they would have known what was happening, instead they didn't speak to her at all, show up not even knowing she was pregnant then demand the child because their daughter's womb carried it.

[@batkat0]

@@TJ-dy1cy You do realize that having a child in critical care who is likely to die even if there's a chance they may not is incredibly traumatic? Like why do you think parents should only be sad when the kid actually dies?

[@TJ-dy1cy]

@@batkat0 they can be sad, they just shouldn’t be assholes trying to seperate a family that isn’t there’s. Please tell me where I said “THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE UPSET”

[@lianre1376]

@@TJ-dy1cy I agree that they shouldn't have any rights over the father in this case, but they say in the video that they DID know what was happening and that she wasn't the egg donor. Which is honestly kind of worse because they knew the entire time she was pregnant that they wouldn't have a connection to this baby. So they should've been prepared for that already.

[@Timelordderpy]

“She’s also my best friend.” And yet the grandparents treat him like a stranger…that say something?

[@katrinascarlet5637]

Yeah my mom's met my friends. Fed them and their kid on several occasions.

[@crowww5246]

I mean she is an adult and not a teenager living with her parents. I doubt her parents see her enough to also see her friends

[@celsiuskelvon6328]

My grandmother and parents don't know any of my friends. Their philosophy Me: "Can I bring my friends come over?" "Do we know them?" Me : "No" Them: "Good, the answer is no." They didn't let me go to or have friends over.

[@moniquewilliams3560]

Yeah that the grandparents were estranged ( I watched the full episode)

[@kateg9437]

For people who are confused, in surrogacy, people who use their gametes (sperm or eggs) are usually treated as a donor until parenthood is passed after birth. So even though he is the biological father, he is treated like a sperm donor

[@jesse5658]

But her eggs weren't used, so the baby is not biologically hers. Wouldn't he just need to get a DNA test done to prove it's his son? Like any father trying to get visitation rights or fight for custody of his child?

[@kateg9437]

@@jesse5658 doesn't matter that it's not her eggs. The person giving birth is the legal mother. Getting a DNA test just proves that his sperm caused the pregnancy. Sperm donors don't get visitation rights.

[@iwillwh00pyoa52]

I BLAME FEMINISM ON THIS!!

[@boparks3204]

But (according to the show) they do not recognize surrogacy in the state. Meaning, if he is the bio dad, he should then get custody.

[@kateg9437]

@@boparks3204 they still recognise sperm donors

[@Lunalix]

Nobody is talking about how an OLD couple is stealing a baby!

[@lyssimon4136]

I'll said the same thing. They are stealing his child. They are selfish.

[@bethsmithdr10]

Their not the grandparents even.

[@LindaFromSeaAtTull]

​@@bethsmithdr10 *They're

[@psychrolutesmarcidus2455]

Litteraly everybody talking about it

[@luciapinilla3423]

What's unbelievable is that in the US people believe you can pay for a baby and it's ethicaly and morally correct. No, human trafficking is not ok, you can't pay for babies or organs and the mother is the one who gives birth to the child, not the ones who pay for it. Capitalism anyway.

[@melanietoth1376]

My sons grandparents fought for custody for ten years...draining all our funds, even kidnapping him once. Eventually they lost and by then my son had seen their horrible behavior and abuse of me and him. He refused to ever see or speak to them again. They wanted my son taken away because I was 17 and his dad and I had broken up. The bio dad gave up custody so they fought for grandparents rights. They ruined so much by their horrible attacks on me and my son. Theyve passed away now and my son is 26...he dropped them and never looked back.

[@verdirect110]

I hope you both are doing well now!! God Bless ❤️🙏

[@luciapinilla3423]

That's absolutely different. This man is paying for a baby, he is not a dad.

[@Odiekins]

In-laws are a pain.

[@bluevalkyrie8981]

@@luciapinilla3423it’s not her egg. She’s not the mother either.

[@luciapinilla3423]

@@bluevalkyrie8981 so mother's who get eggs and deliver the babies are not the real mothers? Do you know the mother changes the DNA of that egg in her womb ? Just because we're not vessels, we're humans and women do have rights, as well as the babies.

[@xxwhispersxx2856]

As a woman - single fathers need more rights.

[@RunRabbitRUNRABBIT]

Second this

[@allyb3510]

Period.

[@AuraSilencer]

I agree

[@mhoneyeats2042]

💯

[@LS-bb9qh]

That's not the issue on this video lol

[@teenat7044]

Imagine doctors telling you that you can't take your biological child home because the woman carrying them, your best friend, died. What the fuck?

[@justine-wf6iv]

Imagine knowing you killed your best friend all cause you couldn’t just adopt instead

[@greeneggsspam3969]

That’s not the reason. He wasn’t listed as the father. Even if he’s biologic, he isn’t the actual father yet. Think you have to get the mothers permission, because she’s the “incubator”.

[@kimmy227]

@@justine-wf6iv ? you’re so weird for this

[@ritaantosik6659]

@@justine-wf6iv it’s one thing for him to struggle with the idea that he killed his best friend, I could very well see that being a perspective that this character would need to seek therapy for after the events of the episode… but to suggest that that’s an accurate perception of what occurred and attempt to shame parents for not adopting is super gross. I wonder how many children you’ve adopted to construct the high horse you’re riding in on

[@justine-wf6iv]

@@ritaantosik6659 I will shame anyone who uses a surrogate it’s disgusting.

[@chichi5172]

I hate how they truly believe they have any right to a baby that shares 0% of their genetic make-up

[@angelofheaven199]

Unbelievable how people feel entitled to rent womens wombs just cause they believe they deserve a child smh

[@brendawalton2518]

This show was made in 2018. Surrogacy became legal in NY in 2020. However, he is the father genetically, proof of which should make him the father legally. With or without surrogacy contract. Still, I enjoyed the story. Glad the child won't get stuck in foster care.

[@karanaferreira]

I love when they use a 3 month old as a new born 😂

[@laurenmann3936]

I was dying when they showed the baby LOL basically a toddler

[@rainbowshortcake1169]

I always laugh at that too, but really who wants their newborn on a film set with a bunch of stranger germs? 😅

[@biljam972]

yes, they should use the doll instead, like everyone who had a baby knows that was full grown baby that's not newborn.

[@moonluna464]

@@rainbowshortcake1169 Newborns aren't allowed to act because of that. So that's why they use older babies.

[@springrain180]

Healthy boy. That’s what the doctor said.

[@brendawalton2518]

Paternity testing has been available for over 20 years. There should be no debate over whether he gets to keep his kid.

[@angelabarry3789]

If the guy is the genetic father of the baby he should have automatic custody compared to the surrogate

[@ll44ll44ll]

Right? Plus didn't it say she's not the egg donor so really the woman nor her parents have the right to the baby.

[@MrsLizziee]

@@ll44ll44ll Yeah... she's just the incubator. Who cares, right? ¬¬

[@mscellophane1850]

@@MrsLizziee Actually, yeah.

[@MrsLizziee]

@@mscellophane1850 Thank you so much, misogynistic sociopath.

[@vermilion6966]

@@MrsLizziee Yes she just is. You mad bro? Shes dead now btw. So shes really nothing at this point. And her parenst - even less than nothing.

[@erica863]

He’s the biological father, this whole thing has to be bull shit lol. But I hope in fantasyland, they are now a big extended family and Robin has a great life with his awesome daddy and regularly visits his surrogate grandparents who spoil him rotten.

[@desireluminsa5261]

There are even surrogate g.parents these days?

[@TJ-dy1cy]

@@desireluminsa5261 i mean sure, there has been many cases over the past few years of surrogates taking care of the child longer than usual due to covid etc. in that case where the surrogate family and bio family would probably get extremely close

[@rachal4685]

Surrogacy in the uk is different the legal parent to the baby is the surrogate until she signs the baby over so if she she’s married and she dies then the baby will then go to the surrogates husband

[@erica863]

@@rachal4685 idk about the UK. But in the US, all the biological parent would really need to do is sue for custody and demand a DNA test. Who’s the daddy? Whoever’s the daddy gets the baby. Now with surrogate vs. biological mother, that might be more complicated. Hats all of surrogates though, I know it’s not an easy thing at all. Even though they get paid, it’s still an incredible thing to do for someone else! Especially those who have cared for the baby for longer periods during covid,

[@ashleycassion8702]

They have no rights to the baby, this was so dumb.

[@aeopinx5552]

imagine getting hit by a car and your parents sue for the car

[@michaelmartinez5217]

If he's the father why did they give him shit??? Makes no sense.

[@julesoxana3630]

Forreals

[@willowravenwright5518]

This is downright heartbreaking. I am glad that the laws changed. But a father giving up the rights to his son so the kid won’t be a ward of the state is so sad.

[@jannalam6861]

Right they should have asked that of the grandparents, not the dad.

[@fluffy3049]

"He is the last piece of my daughter that I have!" Lady, your daughter isn't even biologically related to that boy. The father at least has some genes in the game. Y'all got nothing! Y'all are grasping at straws, that don't even exist.

[@tenderprecious]

All Agree to Take care of baby, problem solved...stop fighting and come together to Raise that Baby, period

[@blazingvenom6012]

fr they act like they can’t just . exchange numbers. visitation exists

[@moniquelee5535]

Right

[@amielawson8344]

That child is not biologically the woman’s or her parents. Their desire to take him from his biological father was horrid.

[@karanaferreira]

You don’t get how the law works do you ?? Stop

[@tenderprecious]

@@karanaferreira its a TV SHOW....SO YOU STOP

[@rosesareredvioletsarenot107]

Biological father automatically has a right to custody if the mother is unable to take care of babt, even if she could take care of him as long as there is no reason to believe the baby is in harm he would at the very least have shared custody

[@aishahowasis8484]

Yeah. But this is different then just normal birth the baby isn’t his untill she says so and she can’t

[@Hunlover123601]

dude is the legal father. with or without contract. biologically he is. the father.

[@kilianhufgard1035]

men sadly don't have rights over the child automatically like the mothers do its unfair and it needs to change

[@anyaa565]

@@kilianhufgard1035 But that makes sense in a case like this, where the baby has just been born (I would agree with you if it were about a child who is not a newborn, to some extent), and IF it were mother versus father. I don’t think some men realize just what pregnancy is. There is a reason why mothers have more weight. As we see here, it can literally kill a woman. It’s not a walk in the park and at the end, a baby just pops out. The mother carries the baby for 9 months and deals with months, perhaps even a lifetime of after effects. No way around that. A father biologically just has to show up at the beginning. But the surrogate made it clear what she wanted- she wanted the father to have the baby. This doesn’t make sense because her parents act in their interest, not in hers. But it is not mother vs father here. The issue here is that somehow the *grandparents* have a right to the baby and would rather it be in foster care than give it to the biological father, yet the father doesn’t. And this is a surrogate case. I know for a fact that if for some reason, I wrecked my body to have my own biological baby (not as a surrogate) and the father tried to take it away, I would not be happy. It’s like taking all the credit for a group project you just typed the title for, but much worse. But fortunately that’s not what’s happening here. He’s a great guy, as we can tell (and imo, would be a better parent than the grandparents for making such a selfless decision for his baby). The father imo should be 100% in the right to be the caretaker.

[@LoganJackson]

I know they're acting out of grief, but the grandparents' actions were selfish. They weren't thinking about what was best for the little boy; only what they wanted. They completely ignored the fact that the father wanted his son and that their daughter knew what she was doing.

[@elaine4609]

Can we please talk about how her parents tried to steal his child??? I’m from Iowa and grandparents haven’t had rights in our state for sometime and am pretty sure DNA would have trumped them an there so called need to steal that baby!

[@travisjohnson6676]

The elderly couple were extremely selfish

[@jannalam6861]

They were hurting and not thinking clearly. But glad they came around.

[@nicoleday2305]

I AM CRYING OVER HERE!!!! That's LOVE, Real LOVE, True LOVE - AGAPE LOVE....

[@joaodejesus3762]

This show is so whack, everyone's reactions and decisions are so unrealistic and wild.

[@Andrea-en9qb]

I don't understand why this is an issue if the Farther is the actual genetic Farther?

[@PlaceForAnEcho]

The entitlement of the grandparents is sickening.

[@pinkmosey]

Boomers

[@sagelg]

Find it interesting that with other shows if the surrogate mother decides to keep the baby (aka violating the contract) shows how out of their way to show that the surrogate is in the right. But whenever shows deal with the biological father wanting his child they either shows he’s in the wrong or they says he’s right but then try to make him change his mind.

[@sexyscorpius]

Ive actually seen it different. I've always seen shows deal with surragote mothers who want the child as selfish, manipulative, and sometimes even mentally unstable as the disperate bio parents hold each other crying. I have seen a few shows take a more sympathetic look at the mother but she's still never right but we are still allowed to feel a lil sad for her.

[@pickachewcowboy3122]

you do know that when the woman is single, only her has the custody of the child. If they were married, both would have. This has been that way since forever and just because the baby by dna is his, does not mean he should get the baby. I think few people who use surrogacy would be this naiv and think they can have the baby in any state and it will be fine. In Europe e.g. suggoracy is allowed in some countries, so when the surrogate birthed in the country where it is not allowed, it is her baby so you must make sure, that wont happen. They always portray the dumbest people in these series.

[@Kaitou-ug5yi]

@@pickachewcowboy3122 If a woman is unmarried and doesn't want to give the father custody, he can legally fight that in court and will almost always get parental rights and some custody, no?

[@222222ania]

First of all, contracts are rarely involved, people are stupid. Second of all, in the eyes of the law the mother is the person carrying the child, therefor even if there was a contract, the surrogate can't be forced into giving away her parental rights, aka civil case over the contract at best, there is no way of legally obligate her to give the child away. Now, in this scenario, I do not see why they are keeping the dude away from his child. Yes, the grandparents can technically seek custody since legally their daughter was the kid's mother, but there is no reason to keep the dad away, unless there is a suspicion of abuse. In conclusion, highly unrealistic scenario, irl the dad would have automatical custody and then if the ''grandparents'' wanted the kid they would go to court but the kid would stay with the dad until the trial (again, would be a bit different if there was abuse involved)

[@outspoken5808]

First of all, surrogacy contracts are enforceable in New York. But even imagining a world where they are not, there are so many issues with this. 2. Why is the doctor in court? (and in scrubs). 3. Why is the doctor speaking in court from anywhere other than from a witness stand? 4. WHY IS THE DOCTOR SITTING NEXT TO THE PARTY AT TABLE IN COURT!? 5. Why is the doctor advising ANYONE on legal matters? 6. The judge says there is an interstate issue, so it needs to go to a higher court, but state courts are free to hear cases that cross state lines and even if the case needed to be handled in a federal court, that is not a "higher" court, and it's not her decision which venue suit is filed in, unless venue is improper. 7. Remit? Appeals courts are the only courts that would need to remit a case (unless you're dealing with a jury verdict). Assuming that they are talking about appeals later in the clip, this was a trial court so how is this judge going to "send a case back" to a lower court, but to a higher court? 8. Also wouldn't you say Remand, or was there a whole trial with a jury that we missed? 9. Why is the doctor acting as if he knows the law and how court appeals processes work? 10. Why is the child advocate openly taking the side of one party? 11. Why are the only people missing from the court the attorneys?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! 12. How is it a surrogacy contract if he is the biological father? 13. Absent additional facts, and regardless of any contract between the mother and the father, if a child has a living legal parent willing and wanting to raise that child, the grandparents have literally no say. The only way this scenario would be an issue and the only way I've seen it become an issue is where the surrogate is married, and the spouse is claiming parental rights. But also surrogacy contracts are enforceable in NY so maybe if there was a single lawyer involved and the doctor shut the hell up and stuck to medicine all of this could have been avoided.

[@xxwhispersxx2856]

The first three questions - it was a hearing that was called quickly so he had a right to be there since he was overseeing the legalities of the medical case.

[@bethgramkow5225]

How why was that dad in the operation without a mask. Good points

[@hellicey8401]

its a movie.

[@h.peters]

It's a fictional show, therefore accuracy isn't stressed upon. Duh.

[@idek7438]

@@hellicey8401 No it's not, it's a tv show

[@TJ-dy1cy]

And they say cps etc never take away a child without reason. What did this father do to lose his newborn? What did the grandparents do? Nothing, yet they are having that child TAKEN from them.

[@romanov3937]

In US law, when a child is born in another state, local laws apply, meaning the dad can't get the child because of that states law.

[@TJ-dy1cy]

@@romanov3937 again he didn’t do anything bad to warrant them taking his child, my point still stands

[@Npyne]

@@TJ-dy1cy But legally, the child isn't considered to be his- regardless of the biological aspect. From a legal stand point, letting him keep the kid would be equivalent to letting a random person take the kid.

[@TJ-dy1cy]

@@Npyne they were sending this child to CPS they were infact sending this INFANT to a random person. again, my point stands. :)

[@elaine4609]

They aren’t the grandparents they are her mother and father….

[@DioneN]

I love when newborns on tv are born and look two or three months old already. 😆

[@doggielover4999]

Ikr, xD it already big.

[@loki009fong5]

I don’t care they cute 🥰

[@JitendraSingh-jv1dh]

They can't borrow newborn 😅😅

[@candaceharewood16]

They have to be a certain age to work. My daughter is a SAG actor

[@DioneN]

@@candaceharewood16 haha yeah I know it just makes me laugh when I see such large plump “newborn” babies 😸

[@kasualbeauty309]

If it’s his genetic baby then legally it’s his. Surrogate or not. It’s his biological child. He is the father.

[@kristenball7227]

So he can’t get a dna test to prove he is the father and get sole custody.

[@mtin92]

Isn’t it a given if the baby isn’t related the surrogate’s parents the baby goes to the bio dad. I mean that would be the obvious thing to do. As far as I know bio grandparents get custody only if both parents are gone or if they are unfit to parent.

[@jamiea9634]

Not if they are not married! A lot of laws in different states are from a long time ago. I think the father here would have won eventually in court just would have taken a lot of time. DNA usually wins in the end these days, but laws written before we knew about it.

[@JustMe-12345]

The “grandparents” were horrible. Like it’s not their biological grandchild. The father loves the child and will take good care of it. The child would probably rather grow up with a father rather than grandparents. And like… if they kept in good contact they could have still been grandma and grandpa. No laws against how to call ppl. Instead they wanted to take away the baby and the father had to give it up in the first place for them to realize it. If it went to court and the father won, they would have never seen the child again I guess.

[@dragonman910]

Good on the grandparents for becoming understanding in the end. They were right. That child was the last remaining piece of their daughter. In real life, that must be very difficult to let go.

[@ZOE_NtombiYaseMancwabeni]

Wait...the baby is 50% his tho🤔. I'm not from New York or the US, so not familiar with these laws...what am I missing? How do they allow this?? 🙄. Is this only fiction?

[@CeltycSparrow]

My heart breaks for all three of them. The girl's parents are grieving the loss of their daughter and this father has gained a son, but the cost was very high, indeed. Why couldn't they have reached some kind of compromise....like the couple gives the child to his father, after his beautiful speech to them, and he tells them that they can be surrogate grandparents for this precious child....so they could ALL have the baby.

[@danieleoswald4971]

How did her parents not know about her best friend?

[@rennyd7574]

I’m sorry but for cases like this I believe the grandparents are horrible and selfish. They already had their child and yes they are going to lose her, BUT this is the father someone who WANTS to be with the baby and I am only (enter age) but I’ve never had a baby so I have never that loss before. But just ask if they can be in the baby’s life it isn’t that hard 🤦‍♀️ I mean they were prepared to rip a baby away from its father and I don’t know that just rubs me the wrong way. And again I’m not mad mad and yes I know it’s just a show and I know actual parents grieve and wants to hold onto their child regardless the age for as long as possible, but they didn’t have to rip a family apart. I am hoping Robin/Robyn stays with his father

[@brigitteschultz1552]

They didn't want the baby, they just didn't want the Dad to have him. They were planning to put him in foster care. How evil is that.

[@elflonghand5056]

Those grandparents are like "this is the last of my daughter!"" yall ain't genetically related girly pop

[@Kittyququmber]

This is a TV show. The court ruling would not hold as she is NOT the egg donor. If she was the egg donor, then the grandparents would have claim in a state where surrogacy is not legal. This is a typical bio ethical case often used in medical bioethics and legal studies. This baby has no genetic material from the woman or the elderly couple. If the egg donor came into the picture and was also suing for custody she -the egg donor-most likely would get the baby boy especially if surrogacy is illegal in the state.

[@SavedError]

This speaks a lot. I’m a mother of two (one is front my fiancés ex, though we have been fighting for custody as she literally left the state and hasn’t made effort but won’t give us full custody). So I understand how the government treats single fathers and it isn’t fair. If a mom wanted her baby she would 100 percent get the baby that easily. But to treat the father as if he is below the mother, is despicable.

[@beccablueeyes99]

Surrogate or not, him being the bio dad should give him custody rights, right? I truly hate how surrogacy is handled. The surrogate should never have any rights to the child.

[@ConfusedKitty]

Most states if not married you have no legal say

[@adylaar6708]

No. Surrogates have spent 9 months and beyond with the baby. You should not talk lightly abt severing the bond between the two. The surrogate mom should be given time to at least say goodbye. Imagine you took care of a stray dog bonded and given name. After 3months+ owner came saying they lost their dog and want the dog back. Surely youll feel upset, youll feel lost. Saying surrogates have no rights over the baby is selfish of you guys. I know this reply doesnt have relation to the video but have mercy for someone that sacrificed their womb for a baby. Also per the video, both should cooperate until the surrogate mom regain conciousness.

[@MsBrendalina]

The surrogates aren't farm animals, they're human beings. They deserve rights Attitudes like yours are why surrogacy shouldn't exist

[@aliceinwonderland4773]

The surrogate Is a mother that give a Life, i don't share this vision, like the woman Is only an incubator, She can have feeling with the baby After growing 9 months insider her, i see a lot of women crying After the baby Is taken away from their. Human are so selfish. Just adopt this Is so innatural

[@controlman7490]

@@adylaar6708 It's not selfish it's the fucking truth. That ain't her baby and she signed up to be an incubator essentially just to get money. I would let her say goodbye, but you sound stupid trying to argue that a surrogate should have rights to the baby. It's not her child at all.

[@schulteq]

Biologically they had absolutely no relation to that boy yet somehow they had a better claim to him over the father after birth? That’s so fucked up.)

[@AngelGrace345]

he will be a great father already cares that much

[@Flooofster]

This filled me with rage. How dare they even attempt to take his child away on the spot! That's so selfish and horrible!!

[@Lovebug-nz8ke]

At least in the end, her parents did what most wouldn’t, which was honor her wishes and allowed him to have his child back

[@krisaaron5771]

If their daughter was babysitting a five yr old, would her parents claim the kid as "their" grandchild?

[@fleuristeeee]

When he said see you soon my heart shattered

[@danger0Robertson]

That man totally planned to kill himself because of the pain of having to give up his son as well as losing his best friend.

[@xxwhispersxx2856]

The kid is not biologically the surrogate's. The baby is not going to look like her or sound like her. So the grandparents wanting "what's left of their daughter" makes no sense. The baby was NOT her son.

[@AgonySoup]

This whole problem started because of those selfish old people refusing to give that man his son.

[@OnlyLilynn44]

I don't get it. The baby is still technically biologically his child. It's not like he used a donor, it's his biological child. Surrogacy isn't recognized sure but, he's the biological father of that child. They're related, they can void the surrogacy contract but they can't void his paternity. How is this legal?

[@murriellemgl4479]

The baby's eyes is just ughh! Cuteness overload

[@TheMormonSorceress]

I'm glade the parents did the right thing and honor their daughter as she was just helping her friend.

[@ivechang6720]

This is why a will is so important asap you find out you are pregnant and/or while you are trying. Please note that Native American or other status can further complicate these issues. A non Native may not legally have the same claim on a child in those circumstances.

[@abfarrow3596]

So they are being treated like she got a sperm and egg donor, and he was just the sperm donor.. Does that mean that if a couple was dating, not married, and had a kid and the mother was unconscious, the dad couldn't take his baby home?

[@prettyevil6662000]

I don't understand why it matters she was a surrogate if he was the biological father. That makes him the father regardless of any contracts. They really messed up on that part.

[@anitas6621]

But he's the biological father so what is the problem?

[@lemonadelemon1960]

All they have to do is go to court show them the contract. And he can demand a paternity test to prove he's the father. The law in ALL 50 states says that the child goes to the remaining live parent. Which he is.

[@lizxu322]

I'm really glad this is just a fictional story at this point...

[@porismitaborah2703]

I am shock to see Anupam Kher in this episode 😊 wow great. He is a great actor.

[@SolaScriptura-n-cats]

Omg this one made me cry! Similar personal experience, really hit home. 💖

[@the_swordman1]

Wft, the father and the surrogate was friends and the surrogate's mother dares to say "I'm giving him to a stranger"

[@TJ-dy1cy]

and the only reason hes a stranger to them is because they didnt take time to speak to their child. all people are strangers to a newborn lol

[@iwillwh00pyoa52]

I HATE THE GRANDPARENTS!

[@LadyCheshire95]

If he rips up that's contract then he's just an unmarried birth father and should just have his rights. Grandparents couldn't take the baby if he was just her boyfriend

[@totallymk5944]

In NY even if he’s unmarried to the mom he still doesn’t have rights. He would have to go through adoption

[@LadyCheshire95]

@@totallymk5944 so every unmarried father in Newyork has adopted their own child? Unlikely. He would need to go through court but just as the biological father not as a surrogate contract. As a father you cannot adopt your own child. Had the surrogate survived she would have just placed him on the birth certificate and surrender her rights

[@totallymk5944]

@@LadyCheshire95 in New York that’s how it works. Seeing as the surrogate didn’t survive and they aren’t married he has no rights, contract or not

[@LadyCheshire95]

@@totallymk5944 he's still the biological dad, if NY takes away rights then that's barbaric but I really do not believe that is how that works

[@LadyCheshire95]

@@totallymk5944 infact it isn't I just looked it up unmarried fathers can either Put their name down on the birth certificate with the mother at birth. Or Fill out a Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity form Or Petition the state Court for paternity. After this they have full rights to visitation and part or even full custody.

[@astrangerthing4870]

I went through the 5 stages of grief while watching this video.

[@Charlie-yv3ib]

I'm really glad Lin's parents came around at the end.

[@brigitteschultz1552]

How magnanimous of them

[@DanDCool]

I found this channel yesterday or was it after 12am e

[@kingmarcus014]

Terrible storyline. Started with a headache and now her heads gonna blow, a c section to a 3 month old, nurses taking a child from its biological father because there’s a contract but if there’s no contract it’s his?, terrible characters in grandparents who want nothing more than to grasp at their dying daughters legacy after being so out of touch they didn’t know she was pregnant and on top of that think the father is somehow pimping out women into pregnancy, then a shit decision from the judge with the worst excuses ever, then the only good part a grown man giving his son to his friends parents hey what about the real mother the one the embryo came from? Where’s she at?, then the grandparents call him back to one up him coupled with the worst acting I’ve seen in a long time and again a fucking toddler playing a 3 day old newborn

[@rainbowshortcake1169]

I know right?! If there was no contract and the birth mother died like that the bio dad wouldn't have his baby taken from him. Even if she was the bio mom (making the baby actually genetically related to the grandparents) and he was just some guy she had a fling with the baby would still be his (biologically and legally). The way too old baby "actor" isn't really avoidable though. Who wants their newborn on a film set with a bunch of stranger germs Lol.

[@xxwhispersxx2856]

They have to use older babies for tv.

[@angelahull9064]

hard to acquire a newborn for filming considering even healthy ones are on the immunologically weak side. Even so, there are scenes where it seems like they're actually using a life-like silicone doll.

[@not_today_satan_7]

That baby had to be 3 months old at leasr

[@AS-yz2iz]

My thought too.

[@justanothermomsamanthagh5191]

Surrogacy contracts might not be legal but why can't he just get a DNA test and prove he's the father

[@MirageAtPlay]

Confusion i see runs through the comments on this episode. Father isnt a danger soooo he has the rights. Also, that is what daughter wouldve willed? Obvious intentions with the contract.

[@AS-yz2iz]

True love always wants the good of the one that is loved.

[@AlphaWar3534]

Everyone commenting obviously didn’t watch it all the way through. I understand where you want to be mad but they understand their wrong in the end and gave the father his baby back. They couldn’t get over the fact their daughter is dead so they wanted a piece of her that they knew wasn’t hers but came from her. That is grief and in the end they understood they were wrong and did the right thing.

[@jazzybash1]

But he’s the biological father… Anyway you slice it, he would still be the legal parent. Yes surrogacy isn’t legal everywhere but, the father will have rights to the child first before the “grandparents”.

[@shorttbone4193]

I don’t get why this isn’t open and shut. If this was a sperm donation maybe??? But he’s the biological father, every single state would have him sign the birth certificate and he would have the option of custodial rights unless he waived them on purpose (and sometimes it is very hard to get them to waive those rights) on what planet does he have no ability to take the child home?

[@MissusAnon]

The parents thought this guy was the equivalent of a bystander who caused their daughter's death from a contract/exchange of money, they didn't know he was so personally involved. When he came in and started saying goodbye to his son and his friend, even willingly giving up his son so he could have a better life? The parents realized their daughter did this for more than just money and decided to respect her wishes.

[@222222ania]

Yes, since she did not sign her rights away, she is the mother. Anyone can say they are the father, so a paternal test should be performed. Since legally she is the mother, her parents can file for custody. Now, there is absolutley no reason for keeping the child away from their dad, unless abuse is involved. Is the ''belong to the mother'' thing real? In my country both parents have paternal rights unless the court decides one of them or both are unfit to care for a child. Do fathers have no rights in the USA? Like I am all from protecting people from abuse so if, for exemple, the father is a woman's rapist, then fuck him but normally shouldn't paternal test be enough for him to be able to take the kid home in this scenario?

[@jonathanfenton2601]

I know they try to make compelling TV, but this failed on all levels.

[@ladymacan7874]

Surrogacy contract aside, why wouldn’t the court issue a paternity test to confirm that the man is the bio father, then give him custody of the baby? That should supersede any claim made by grandparents, right? This doesn’t make sense.

[@PhotoJeticPoet]

The "grandparents" are selfish af. They made this all about them and ignored how much pain he was in too.

[@romantic_hippie]

I'm sorry but what legal right did the grandparents have in the first place? This isn't their child at all so I'm confused why their needed to be an injunction in the first place. There is usually contracts made with surrogates so what the grandparents wanted doesn't legally matter. Hopefully dad will be nice and give them visiting rights, that's what I would do

[@elaine4609]

They weren’t the grandparents the egg wasn’t hers so they were strangers

[@life.with.too.many.animals9411]

Well that's a way to tell him that his Bestfriend is dying...and that he may not get his baby.

[@0Sarenity0]

The surrogate's parents are WAY out of line here. They shouldn't have a legal leg to stand on.

[@amandagrace31]

Those “grandparents” are jerks.