Death of "The Next Big MMORPG" | Asmongold Reacts

[@WalkinChristum]

I quit at lvl 30 or so, the lvling was not even that bad, but having to walk the whole map, and not having enough dust to fast travel killed it for me, I wanted to play an MMO not walking simulator

[@wingnutmcspazatron3957]

There was something very odd too about there being NO horses anywhere. Hearing everybody's footsteps everywhere without intermingling with hooves took away from the immersion for me.

[@saiyan171]

I feel this one heavy, so much walking and running around, especially for the pvp times to hold territory really bad.

[@Skaffapiraatje]

Well that is fixed! So during levelling you are almost always at the azoth cap! Fast travelling is very accessible now :)

[@ilootyouhoot8578]

@@Skaffapiraatje they could fix every issue in the game, and people will still complain.. oooh dead world.. game is trash.. its so broken... stupid negative andy's

[@WalkinChristum]

@@ilootyouhoot8578 Well I only needed faster travelling and that's all haha, if that is fixed might pick it up again, the game was overall fun

[@brodiethegoaty849]

Asmon looks more and more like South Park Jesus.

[@En7my]

True dood. True AND real.

[@TacticalReaper56]

WOW. Never made the connection... to the subreddit.

[@diabodian]

"Hello childrens"

[@leavingcorinth]

I can't believe I never saw it

[@benoitdavid-morse5091]

LOL so true!! 😂😂😅😅

[@ade5691]

I played New world. It was actually great, I loved the world, the music and the atmosphere. BUT The bugs, the exploits, the cash shop and the systems within the game (mainly endgame) were unacceptable.

[@Lfancoes]

Question, do they change/add something to the Cash shop? I only play the game for 3 months since release, but Cash shop not even included in my quit factor for me.

[@DarkPoisoneer]

@@Lfancoes the cash shop isn't bad and they give you free tokens if u have amazon prime every month, it is purely cosmetic and dosnt give you any single advantage that makes you stronger or even cut some content from the game so they can sell it on the shop, I played the game for months and it never bothered me and I never used it

[@Afflictamine]

sounds exactly how most people with a brain said how an Amazon MMO game would go, and it did LOL so obvious

[@edwardrichard8093]

I still have 0 clue how anyone who saw how the dungeon combat worked thought "wow this looks amazing" just zerg combat is the most boring kind there is.

[@Lfancoes]

@@DarkPoisoneer Oh, I thought they would add something more sinister, Just like you, I don't really care about Cash-shop that much, like it or not, they will always exist in MMO games. I only focusing on my own way of fun. Which not even covered by the cash shop anyway. If they does, not only how? and it will be most disgusting MMO ever in term of cash-shop. BUT, I will hate the cash shop in the game IF they keep popping up every single minutes and remind us that they sell stuff and advantages.

[@carlriggs5413]

I was level 45 or so when I quit. I got so fucking bored killing the same copy/pasted enemies over and over, the questing was literally about as much fun as crawling naked through a tunnel made of cheese graters. I actually really enjoyed the PvP. But I couldn't be bothered to level :/ then I got to 45 and saw the multitude of bugs and I quit out because I didn't like the idea of putting myself through lvling to 60 just to experience a buggy mess.

[@PoochMG]

Same. I managed to get to 60 but the gear grind after that made the level grind look diverse af. Instead of killing the same copy paste minions over and over again you just killed the same world boss over and over again until you boosted your gear rating enough to get a max level whatever you were after. The PVP was awesome til everybody started exploiting everything. Game fell off quick.

[@blindbylight]

the game was painful

[@carlriggs5413]

@@PoochMG Oh yeah that was the other part! I remember watching videos on what to expect at endgame and thinking it looked awful xD it's unfortunate because I think it wasn't too far off being good tbf

[@nightstar6179]

I wanted to actually help out defend stuff but couldn't join because it required level 60 to do.

[@VarietyGamerChannel]

Same here but I bailed at lvl 35. Shame I REALLY enjoyed the game until lvl 30.

[@JJSijbesma]

The gpu bricking was a flaw in the cards that only would have happened during either intensive cryptomining or a bug. Gpus have sensors on them that measure the temperature, in this case those were not near the spots that would get the hottest. So while the gpu was reporting nominal temperatures the card itself was essentially melting the solder. New world triggered this design flaw because the frame rate on the menu screen was uncapped. A stupid bug, that shouldn't have been in there. But i agree that it is hard to fault them for the bricking because those cards should have been able to handle that... even if they shouldn't have to.

[@estebanhughell709]

Played a lot of new world. Glad asmongold is finally watching a nerd slayer video. Dude has been putting out solid content for a while.

[@Rigele100]

he talks 90% nonsense shit :D how is this "solid content"

[@thynErro]

I came to say this.

[@MasterNochi]

Years*, dude's from Austin too

[@ReallyDazed]

What killed my momentum in New World was how often the economy broke. Dozens of hours collecting ingredients for crafting and selling and it kept amounting to nothing.

[@1Spriggzy1]

Face earth shield has 5% dirt reduction per stack. Stacking up to 20 times. At 20 stacks you get the 'desensitization' buff which reduces the effects of negative senses such as smell by 90%

[@tonydalimata]

20 stacks of earth shield also give a buff that repels "Mobs with bullshit Ai". Other players

[@craybest]

To me, even though the game has improved a lot since launch, there's still one big issue that hasn't been fixed and what I think would be a huge gamechanger. open world activities. more things to do in open world in general. I mean dynamic events, world bosses, more NPCs with sidequests (many more), and more unique places in the map. I think by doing this, the game would finally be on the level on other MMOs and being able to compete.

[@doragonL]

YES. Few world bosses would make such a big difference.

[@feybound-fr]

And... come on. Instantiated cross server expeditions? And Arenas? With a group finder? GW2 had that day 1. Why in the world would you want to split player base for dungeons and PvP instances...

[@hampustornros]

With their recent patches and upcoming patches, it seems to me like they're genuinely trying to make improvements. They're making good changes. I'm cautiously optimistic that New World will actually be quite a decent game eventually if they have the resources to keep this up.

[@username2540]

Glad he watched this guy, loved watching the dude content so it’s sick he’s getting noticed more.

[@darkhole9695]

it really is great to see NS get some recognition, he makes great content

[@andreabarberi5866]

Nerd Slayer is a great content creator, there should be more like him

[@hamzahussain7794]

100% agree. Nerdslayer is awesome!

[@SirGrimly]

I still chuckle whenever I remember the story of how Yoshi-P made the dev team of FF14 play WoW has homework when he was placed on the team... I don't think anyone was expecting that to happen when they received news that they were getting a new game director, but it definitely helped them make ARR work as well as it did XD

[@Riposte8]

If you read some interviews coming out of FFXI 20 Anniversary, it seems clear those devs did play other MMOs. FFXIV launch issues ultimately come from a disastrous development due to a horrible engine (the same one which derailed XV) and a lot of stupid features come from coping with that due to no content.

[@Phantom-kf6bp]

It seems stupid to have a development team working on MMO while none(or almost none) of them actually plays an MMO. I mean, yeah, if they never worked on an MMO, there is no problem, they still have a certain experience in game development but to have people that are unfamiliar with the genre is a recipe for disaster

[@diersteinjulien6773]

@@Riposte8 yeah honestly, FFXIV 1.0 felt like they thought "let's make FFXI again, but prettier", without taking into account the evolution of the genre at all.

[@votum6595]

The biggest reasons as to why we enjoyed New world was because it was something new and MMORPG players had craved something new for a long time (and we still do). It was new in terms of the action combat, the graphics, the sound design system and its overall look. It was immersive, exciting and very fun the first few weeks, until I guess people realized how lazy, copy and paste the game was developed, as well as how many problems it had at its core.

[@jaimeruiz7837]

Wait until Riots MMORPG. Gonna take over I bet.

[@votum6595]

@@jaimeruiz7837 Yeah if anything I'm looking forward to Riots MMORPG, I don't think Ashes of creation will deliver, Riot are atleast good at delivering quality games but they usually mess up after

[@ongka2000]

@@jaimeruiz7837 Don’t keep your hopes up.

[@jaimeruiz7837]

@@ongka2000 Im not, Im literally just doing my life and if Im alive by then. Ill play it. Ive literally played League since season 2. just fun, by then hopefully Im married or have a gf to play with haha

[@vitorac412]

No one cares about "RiOoT MoOrog"

[@Scottoest]

It's kind of adorable how Asmon insists the game still has a heartbeat because after shedding over 90% of the player base, the shedding finally stopped lol. I also don't get the bit about the devs deserving credit for not just abandoning the game, because... that's not their decision to make. They'll work on New World as long as the people above them want them to work on New World. The game's monster numbers at launch probably convinced AGS it was worth trying to see if they could rebound, but I bet if this summer content expansion doesn't see a large and sustained increase in players that's going to be the the end of trying to salvage the game.

[@AzekZero]

If a game featured on DOAG comes back to life thats perfect. Whole heap of content for episode 1 of Resurrection of a Game.

[@gabrielcuratolo7162]

I actually came back to the game, with lots of other player. I enjoy. Imo the game is not dead yet and could resurrect.

[@rickroll9705]

ESO was in a far worse situation and just do perfectly fine now.

[@truepatrician4700]

A game's not dead till the player count hits double digits

[@MyDestroyer24]

Man I’m already playing new world less now after the new patch. Go do PVP and it’s just full on range users. You step out of cover once and get shot by a million arrows. Can’t be in the open in OPR now because you’ll have 10 bow users aiming at you.

[@pbentesio]

I quit at level 35. Just got back into it for the 3v3 arenas and its night and day already. I started over with a new character, the changes to the storage system, the fast travel costs, the UI improvements and the quality of life changes like ammo not being required for ranged weapons really made the game a lot better. My new character is now level 50 so I can't speak as to the endgame but the leveling is MUCH better than it used to. I have hope. *Breathing in the Copium*

[@JEROBI37]

I’m glad you gave it another shot. Most people will not do this and continue to just talk negatively about their 30 levels from launch sadly.

[@smRexosaurus]

New World made me feel like an Amazon Mass Production factory worker and a slave. The amounts you have to gather and produce to get any tangible progress was just not for me. But I loved the combat, graphics and general feel of the game. Glad I tried it, but they didn't take it in a direction I cared about whatsoever for endgame PvE and it didn't turn into the PvP game it could've been either, so I bailed. Happy there's no sub. Can plop in again in a few years if it's still up and check it out.

[@jacksonhawkins3233]

This guy turned a 28 minute long video into an 1 hour long video This guy has to actually be the best reaction streamer he adds so much of his own commentary.

[@conorhennell2623]

@@ThwipThwipBoom yeah i would be terrible at streaming lol, no way ill be able to talk for 6 hours straight whilst it also still being entertaining. is alot harder than it looks to be a good streamer i think.

[@gabrielbryant3673]

@Kermit with an AK link your twitch account

[@conorhennell2623]

@Kermit with an AK depends on your job. You seen how many streamers there actually are that never get above 50 viewers because they have the charisma of a sponge? Hardly any streamers actually become successful. Talking for 6 hours straight every day and be entertaining is way harder than working on a till in a shop or being a delivery driver for example.

[@conorhennell2623]

@Kermit with an AK you just sound salty that you're stuck in a shitty job you hate. No one said they are superheroes but its also not so easy a monkey could do it, you ever tried to entertain thousands of people every day for 6 hours straight without getting burnt out or flat out have nothing to say/be a boring fuck.

[@michalsedlarik8889]

@Kermit with an AK Anyone can become anything bro(ofc theoretically), but it is certainly not easy to become successful and even more so to become one of the top % in anything. So while i do agree to a deegre. It is not 100% correct

[@Zach-rw6jf]

As a Sr Software Engineer, I can tell you companies can't "buy their way" to quality talent. The industry is severely understaffed & most engineers are already highly paid and aren't even considering switching companies. Quality engineers do not look for jobs, they are primarily poached by recruiters, and if a good game developer is already working and invested in another project with another company, they are unlikely to jump ship to join AGS, regardless of more money waved in their face, as these game devs are very passionate about seeing their project to completion, already make plenty of money to be happy. It's not just the game industry either, this is a software development problem as a whole. This is why Intrepid Studios (Ashes of Creation) continues to promote their Development Updates as "hiring opportunities" to entice quality game devs to join them on their project. You have to sell the idea of your project to the engineers in order for them to join you. Most recruiter messages come with a generic line about "joining a growing team working on an unannounced upcoming project" which is unlikely to even yield a response.

[@motherpigeon1582]

Actually from personal experience the "passion" aspect is just platitude used to feel better. We are working for money, simple as.

[@Bananenbauer123]

@@motherpigeon1582 If you look at the new Frost Giant Studios game reveal that's clearly not true. Those people, regardless of being short on money, are boldly trying to revitalize the rts genre. There are a lot of starcraft II devs from old times on that team and it's obvious that all these devs want to do is make a new good rts that can stand the test of time - because the rts genre has been kinda dead for a long time.

[@leonardceres9061]

@@motherpigeon1582 yeah that’s some BS bro. Good attempt to try and hijack the original commenters thunder though. After a certain point you don’t let money tempt you unless it’s much more money than you will realistically make. Being a game designer isn’t going to make you a billionaire. Probably not even a millionaire unless you invested wisely.

[@M1ch43l33]

Also the game industry as a whole is part of the it industry not that many people want to work at. In most companies yoi suffer, bad work conditions and terrible deadlines (nothing special by itself) but also mostly incredibly low wages as well

[@motherpigeon1582]

@@Bananenbauer123 Yeah yeah, you certainly work opportunities and for passion xD Maybe if you don't have family and responsibilities then yeah you can jump around but someday you will need to focus on your future. That's why I personally swapped to cybersecurity for money and I don't use funny platitudes to make myself better.

[@noggodus9661]

This thumbnail formula is making me go insane. It's literally almost the same picture of Asmongold doing a shocked or distraught facial expression in a white shirt plastered over some random bs edited screenshot from the video. Legit makes me feel like I have traveled back in time to a 2016 commentary channel

[@Psychomon]

Watching this I just remembered that Maplestory 2 was a thing. I really enjoyed it, can't believe it died so fast and got deleted swiftly after by Nexon. Meanwhile Mabinogi and Vindictus still exist with low player counts...

[@Novuhz]

Problem with MS2 was the costs they were using on devs to make/develop a different version of MS2 KR which is P2W over there but wasn't P2W in western, wasn't worth the dev costs. So they just decide to pull the plug and be done with it. But yeah I did play MS2 a lot now I'm playing MS, oddly enough MS was far superior than MS2. I never tried it until MS2 closed down. I'd give it a try but the grind can be nuts at the very high lvl content for Black Mage etc.

[@Psychomon]

@@Novuhz Yeah I remember not feeling the need to spend money on anything, I thought it was a temporary thing to attract new players at the time but I guess not. Plus they couldn't monetize the whole "FashionStory" thing, I remember making my own custom clothing for free which was insane at the time.

[@d00s0n]

Back in 2005 my guild was raiding in bwl and the last boss neff buged out. Could not talk to him to start the fight. So we got a GM to fix it. And he said he never played wow and seeing the last boss was cool to see. So yeah at the end of the day its just a job.

[@ardechey]

I loved the skilling, pvp, and even some of the expeditions were good. Reminds me of RuneScape in a different direction. The bugs and lack of unique mobs is what ruined it for me. I also didn’t like they way item level worked, felt like it lacked the ‘rare drop’ feeling and it was just grinding out better level items aka more levelling

[@RozKounelakion]

Bro I thought you said you loved the "skiing" and I was kinda hyped ngl lmao

[@ardechey]

@@RozKounelakion I wish man I do love skiing haha

[@aheahe7943]

Im right with Asmon. The first week of launch I was in all chat telling everyone that "Being forced to walk back and forth to collect wood is going to kill this game, especially if Azoth is going to cost an arm and a leg if you're in the wrong faction. We need mounts, cheaper azoth or some kind of global running speed buff while out of combat." All the no lifers and hardcore survivalist andys shot me down, called me casual and echoed one another about the TRUE MMO experience. And would you look at them now, strapped to a hospital bed being constantly injected with 30CCs of high grade Copium. Then to rub salt in the wound, AGS not only reduced the fast travel cost on Azoth, they added a 10% speed boost when traveling on roads, like I said they should've, 3 days into the game. I still think mounts with a 30% speed boost would've been 100x better and helped retain a lot more players though. But the hardcore pvp andys whined and cried about how mounts would ruin pvp, even though every MMO with open world pvp and mounts found a way to make it work. Like being dismounted if you take any damage, or being slowed to a crawl upon taking player damage. But nope, no one could see past there being "NO BEASTS OF BURDEN IN THE LORE!".

[@XionicAihara]

This. Thought this exact thing, I had a week off of work about a month after its release, and blasted through to lvl60. Burned out and was also tired of running everywhere. Not only that though, the politics in teh game was jacked. Like I could never participate in guild related content to defend stuff. It always went to top donors, or friends. BS concept really. On paper it sounds cool. But in practice, you can never trust the player base to make good faith decisions.

[@lucrative6477]

trying to sound like the smart person in the situation when you were suckered into paying for and wasting time on a game all of the beta testers said to avoid isnt pretty ironic.

[@EarlHare]

game had bigger problems than this, clearly you only played 3 days.

[@aheahe7943]

@@lucrative6477 not a waste of time if I enjoyed it. can enjoy a flawed game, nothing wrong with that.

[@aheahe7943]

@@EarlHare about 47 days, actually. hit 60 and all motivation to run around in circles opening chests for hours on end, immediately dried up. did at least get 200 in trade skills before they nerfed the exp. Literally just sharing one aspect of the game I experienced and people try to jump in acting like they know something "CLEARLY YOU ONLY PLAYED THIS PART OF THE GAME!". Pretty sure I at least hit 200 hours in the game before quitting so pls, bother someone else.

[@Miss_Tsukiko]

I loved New world when it first came out. I gave me the same feel I had back when I was younger playing mmos. But the end game part of it got stale for me quick. The leveling felt rewarding to me, most of the zones felt good to be in and gave me a reason to want to explore, the dungeons were fun and could actually be challenging if you didn't have that great of a group. But I just got bored in the end :/

[@wefwefewfwefwef5645]

exactly how i felt. leveling especially from 1-40 was amazing

[@Gozud]

I've come back to this game ever since I found out the fast travel azoth is capped at 20 I spend literally the most of my time running across the world. Also the group finder for expeditions is a main reason why I came back to the game, before I couldn't progress with the story cause I had to do an expedition

[@garrettrast2953]

Asmon, the difference between WoW and New World not having experienced devs is that WoW was bred from passion and New World was not. I can't speak about WoW nowadays but at its inception It was inarguably created by people cared deeply about the project. New World feels absolutely soulless.

[@KnockOut101inc]

Also New World was developed remotely and not centered in a studio

[@towerguarder]

I hated the janky combat. Showed the limitations of action combat in an MMO.

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

For real. Every mmo that tries action combat fails. As it limits the depth of mechanics later. Free movement makes so many things trivial it really is amazing why they even bother. I wish someone could figure it out but all of them had the same problem.

[@phaedrus12134]

Companies almost always go cheap mode with AI devs. Which, one of my favorite things from BFA WoW was the expeditions. The AI for the npc players was the best I've experienced for an mmo - how blizzard didn't realize they hit gold with that feature, I have no idea... every mob should have unique AI implemented - i.e. Cowardly enemies , etc... AI is huge for just making basic combat or grinding fun, compared to tedium.

[@phaedrus12134]

@@Blackelite89 that wasn't the AI, that was the difficulty they were scaled to. That mode wasn't meant to be difficult, so their dmg numbers, armor, etc... were all low. If you raise that, the AI itself was great. 'Garbage' - stfu haha, miles better than any other mob in any mmo..

[@phaedrus12134]

@@Blackelite89 you're the one that gave specific % buddy. Numbers are everything, the AI just makes it seem like less of an NPC you're fighting (the way they move, learning your rotation and countering, etc...) - as said that mode of expeditions was meant to be easy and there wasn't a hard mode. Hard mode was against other players... I'm just saying that AI should be implemented into all npc and you keep making horrible made up arguments that hold no validity. It's about tuning the numbers for difficulty you want to achieve. You're saying it would be unfair, but the numbers could be tweaked to make it fair and fun. Again stfu... :) No other mmo has had that good of AI for mobs in an mmo and it would be game changing. Also I'm an AI guy, my senior project was creating a deep learning machine that could learn to complete photos that were cut in half. So trust me when I say that there is AI in games and that the mobs in those expeditions do have good AI in terms of a video game npc.

[@phaedrus12134]

@@Blackelite89 we are, you just keep ignoring what I'm saying... Those mobs were the best AI out of any mob in the game, or any other mmo. You just keep peddling around that fact and saying that overtuning is unfair, and that good AI in games doesn't exist. When all I'm saying is that the AI on the npc player mobs in expeditions is the best AI in the game and should be implemented to all mobs in one way or another. It's much more advanced than the basic mobs in any mmo to date.

[@symmgod9059]

I'm quite certain that if I was able to go back to 1985 and show my Grade 13 class the rapidly scrolling chat text in this video and convince them that's an acceptable way of communicating in 2022 ... they'd think I was nuts.

[@danfontaine8179]

Is it acceptable though? It’s fun to read and all but it might as well be AI generated and no one would know the difference. Also I don’t know why anyone on a personal level bothers typing anything - seems pretty sad.

[@trashking1867]

I feel for the team, imagine putting years of your life working on something that is fated to die before it can reach its true potential...

[@ramzies98]

or you know, having $2000 graphic cards explode was quite the scare tactic.

[@AMGKITTENZ]

Well its their own fault xD

[@Mackanw]

They made a bad game thats all

[@alidan]

42:27 it was the graphics cards problem, it was several of them due I believe to them using fewer chips (I forget what they did specifically) on the back of the card under the silicon, there are 6 spots, they only populated 2 to save a penny, which under normal circumstances, wouldn't be a problem, but new world pushed the game to its limit in menus by running them with no cap. the cards were on borrowed time yes, but new world put the final nail in them, at if I remember the point where 3060's were selling for 1000+$

[@moyashiparty]

Yup, my 3090 died playing FF14 due to the same problem, 100% a hardware issue.

[@Dendrin86]

I still log in from time to time, to see what is happening, as I was having much fun the first 2-3 months. Great atmosphere, music and immersive environment. One of few games where its actually nice running around and gathering, which is mostly what I did, beside leveling up to 60. I really hope they are going to pull No mans sky, but its going to be a very hard.

[@feelcollins4358]

Well time for Amazon to splurge more on its development then

[@Dendrin86]

@@feelcollins4358 Oh I dont mind if they do, probably there won’t be anyone to play with by that time, too bad.

[@feelcollins4358]

@@Dendrin86 Ain't hard to market stuff when you got money, people would be curious either way and try it, the real problem is if they can actually succeed in making it great or not, naturally it would attract more people if it did

[@Dendrin86]

@@feelcollins4358 Yeath It’s too bad, they did many things right, but it is what is it.

[@Auxius.]

@34:24 Disagree on the POE build thingy, I started playing without guide and found a crazy berserker flickerstrike build on the first play through. I remember while playing, I had a deliberate idea in mind and started chasing that concept (lifesteal, with fast attack speed). Gathering talent points until you find the gear to make that concept work. Perhaps I was lucky, but I know I quit the game because it felt very broken (which was my mission to begin with).

[@Wilsonite00]

I made it to lvl 40 or so the thing that killed it for me was I joined the world my friends where in two weeks after the game launched because the population was full. The problem is that by the time I got in everyone on the server was levels ahead of me so every time I got on other than the main hub towns the other towns you go to on the quest line where completely empty other than a few people that fell behind in level or my friends that came and helped me level. So in the end if you didn’t level as fast as the super try hard group or join the server late you where absolutely screwed to a land of solitude. Also just remembered this there are missions that you have to play with others and missions that are really really hard without other people which the last one is the thing that finally got me to quit

[@Mytea1]

32:30 that's so true! most game designers or ppl in charge of anything who fail tend to not be in the action themselves. if you want to build the best car you should drive yourself. if you want to design a game that's amazing you should play games yourself. if you want to impress the phone market with an amazing new phone then you should use a phone yourself and not still use an old-school telephone instead. that's a general problem. in most companies ppl in charge just studied their way into a certain field without having actual experience with the topic. that's a mess to begin with and what's most frustrating is that these ppl in charge tend to not listen to the ppl with real experience rather thinking they know everything themselves just like mike frazzini seemed to be in the developement of new world :/

[@aciuschristophores7789]

Most value-adding reaction streamer on KZbin/Twitch right now. Amazing knowledge of games and players and what they want.

[@danfontaine8179]

He’s come a long way in 5 years; he’s really defined his character. He used to be a meme for stereotypical super dorky wow streamer

[@BeniSilvermark]

One huge problem that killed it for me and a bunch of others on my server who stuck it out for months is that for the first 6-7 months AGS focused the endgame towards pvp, and the pve content was really just to increase your pvp gear. But when they added the 600+ dungeons, endgame pve was no longer able to directly affect pvp, and we ended up having to toss our long developed and tested builds in lieu of gear solely focused towards pve progression. It got to a point where skills and tailored gear no longer mattered and only the GS was important

[@donutello_]

finally, something that is NOT about that trial

[@NG.4769]

I like the trial coverage. You can get over it

[@DenethorDurrandir]

On the hitscan, playing musket it's a massive difference, played on launch and got dragged back kicking recently, I couldn't hit anything because I always account for projectile travel not knowing it switched to hitscan, and having projectile travel just feels soo much better in new world's setting since the strongest aspect of the game is immersion Also solo chest runs were the most fun I used to have in endgame, if they kept those I might've been still occasionally playing And they absolutely fail at server merging, multiple servers with around 100 peak players for weeks while they say they constantly watch for servers needing merge and merge at the soonest thursday (at least I think it was thursday)

[@GoldenTeacherOG]

I swear asmongold has reacted to like 3 variations of this video already.

[@OrkarIsberEstar]

muscets shoot slower than modern guns but the projectile is still too fast to see with the eye and you shoot your musqet on what 30-100 meters? i think hitscan makes sense, like IRL if someone shoots you with a muscet at that distance you are hit before you hear the shot. That said bows and staffs/gauntlets still fire projectiles that move slower. I did play gun and ice gauntlet for open world and pvp battles alike. the gun isnt that good of a weapon but you can shoot at large distances and THATS how you should use it - hide in the grass lying down and sniping vital targets. 1 musceteer alone doesnt do the trick, get a group of 5 you can oneshot enemy healers

[@PinxPer17]

I swear he posts a video every hour

[@XxTreyvonxX]

He has a guy/team who takes the video of him playing on twitch every day which are very often 8+ hours chops them up and then turns them into scheduled release videos. Nothing out of the normal.

[@kwichzwellbreck3567]

Any game developer who can not get "security" in place to prevent cheating is set to fail in a "big MMO" game. And they even failed to rectify the cheats. How many people were duplicating shit like ultra rare resources to make high end craft gear was crazy and I still bewildered how the system was not hardened against such things which were known at least since the alpha.

[@VisualAnthony]

i'll be honest with you, my dude. never was a big fan of yours but you're growing on me. keep up the great work, man! Also New World will always have a place in my heart. :D

[@ag8276]

That's almost like everyone lmao .. just understand that this guy is his own self. You might agree with him and disagree. Laugh and enjoy the show!

[@dbw166]

I'm 1200ish hours into New World on mainly one character, pretty much just myself working on trade skills and another buddy fetching resources to help me max out all my trades. I just found it really relaxing to be able to relax doing crafting/gathering while still making enough progress to eventually get to 60 so that I can still run the odd expedition with friends here and there. I've got loads of quests left to do. I've been tolerating the grind for a while, occasionally taking breaks to hop on other releases in the meantime. New World has one hell of a foundation to build upon, and seems like they aren't ignoring feedback so far. I'd say for anyone who lost interest part way through leveling to 60, put this one to the side and let it grow. Headlines talking about how the game is dead or dying kind of dissuades potential players from giving it a go. My biggest gripes are the copy/paste of enemy character models and similarity of many settlements. I think some quests should have had longer chains that force you into the next zone to complete them, granted while I mainly leveled off crafting, im getting the feeling that eventually even if all you did was quest, you'd wind up doing random things everywhere. I'm also running into a lot of quests where either the mob isn't spawning, or the marker is wrong, even after multiple patches the same issue persists.... Hopefully over time as we get more regions, maybe even a complete overhaul, we'll end up with the MMO we all want... or think... or cant... become a reality. You can't please everyone.

[@styxzero1675]

I love when Asmongold mention the playercount of Lost Ark and every hater in chat comes up with some arbitrary number of those peoples are bots, no evidence btw, depending on how much they dislike the game. Jelousy is both ugly and sad. Focus on the actual dead mmo you are playing with probably equal amount of bots instead of trying to tear other mmos down.

[@creolekolbytv]

Yea just picked up lost ark two weeks ago it feels alive in the world several new players coming behind me that I can see in the starting areas as I’m piddling around

[@knowwhoiamyet]

Holy crap I was not expecting to see footage of Conquer Online, no matter how brief it was. I frigging LOVED that game, especially before the update that added the Potency stat and the Talismans, but continued to love it even after for a long while. It was incredibly pay to win after a point, but still wildly fun.

[@tim2598]

ωнαταρρ me right away please👆🏽

[@thelonecabbage7834]

I've been playing Foxhole lately, and I'm still amazed at how so many people can work together to accomplish something, rather than tear it apart.

[@tylerharris2689]

This is gonna sound lame but listening to you helps me feel a lot less lonely. Your almost like a friend to me at this point because I’m so socially inept. Thanks for keeping the quiet from creeping in bub.

[@sorakh4119]

Your comment doesn’t sound lame at all bro.

[@tyberiusmcintyre3411]

lost arks business model is the absolute last thing i ever want to see from other games in the future, literally only feels good as a single player game and pretended the shop didnt exist. thought you didnt do drugs man?

[@cdiff07]

I am a 41 year old DAD and Grandpa and I quit after 1,310 hours into it! I played it purely based off of how in depth the world was PvE wise. It died to me because there was NOT enough content coming out to keep me interested! They need to keep coming out with content when your aiming for PvE, hence new endgame raiding i.e New worlds failed attempts with mutations and there big mess up with allowing every joe blow to get get every legendary drop in the game hence taking the feeling of getting lucky and or grinding and earning it out of the game! PvP believe it or NOT people, is not the reason why New world is dead or dying, it is because the PvE in it story wise and content wise was not enough and cheesed! people I know that are still playing it from the gaming community I am a part of are playing it for PvP reasons only now. Most people who look to play MMORPGS are wanting the feeling of being apart of the world, distinctive from others and be able to earn badass weapons, armor, achievements etc.. Not to mention to be able to get that feeling of accomplishment when you finally down that boss or "mutation" on the hardest mode and you feel it as a group of friends who all strived for the same goal and achieved it!

[@brunovitalino]

I play online games to do PvP. They changed what they promised in the development phase. PvE games we play just one time and quit. Still, I prefer playstation/xbox for pve games.

[@roxstar5088]

For those people who don't know this series: Death of a Game series is often not really saying a game is actually death. It's mostly analyzing what has been great and why a large portion has left. I really liked New World. The theme, the sound, the combat all was a pretty and a breath of fresh air. We don't have really a MMO in this time period etc. But other games kinda overshadowed it, and the fact that PvP was a huge part of it but you never really could PvP as a solo player or with a few friends. Because the big pre-made guilds and streamers would always get the fun PvP events and as a small group/solo player you could only be overrun by the zerg. And the PvE was not really fulfilling.

[@blah4374]

It's either New World pulls a No Man's Sky or Ashes of Creation finally comes out and we move there. Whichever comes first.

[@AJ_Ol]

I hope this game makes a comeback. And before you say I’m high on copium, I haven’t played a minute of the game. I don’t play MMO’s on release, because that’s when the game is at its worst. It does look like something I’d enjoy, and if it does make a comeback, I’ll check it out.

[@OrkarIsberEstar]

i quit at lvl 60 ith a 600 watermark. Why? cause pvp became incredibly unbalanced and a real fun killer. Mass flagging the enemy team to get them banned before the match even starts and shit like that...nah...no need to play that I hoped it would get better but every patch they did made PvP less balanced. They managed to Buff S Tier weapons and debuff C Tier weapons. When i quit the only viable weapon was the greataxe - and the hatchet because of a bug that let you oneshot people.

[@MoonTiger88]

52:18 So like Josh Strife Hayes was responsible for the death of Tera, Zack is responsible for the death of New World. Damn, guys, keep your powers in check, would you?

[@botesandhoze6123]

Watching the progression of Scot Lanes physical stress is low key the best part of this video

[@frostbornegaming6453]

I played new world recently for a week or so and honestly it's easier to play with greatly reduced costs for traveling and stuff. I think the game is definitely playable. Mainly the massively multiplayer parts aren't really playable rn

[@nekogirlbathwater9210]

I was playing like 50 hours of New World a week while working 60 hour weeks. I loved this game. The games gameplay loop is so simple and cozy but there is too many unignorable flaws. The devs not rolling back servers after the duping basically killed the desire for anyone who was playing casually. The fact that issues pointed out in the closed beta were never addressed. The fact that the game launched in an unfinished state. If patch 1.0 was the gypsum patch I honestly thing the game would have about 100k players. The game also just straight up lacked content to do. There was no down side to running the same 50 man War team so it lead to player burn out and resentment of players not as good or hardcore because they never got to partake. Then server lag, game breaking bugs and unbalanced pvp with Ice Gauntlet and Void Gauntlet. I could go on and on but I think if Amazon doesnt abandon this game and they keep developing content it should become successful in the future. All of these things are what drained me from New World. I really really hope they are able to do a major content patch, maybe a barber, bunch of pve grinds, maybe even 2 new weapons. I am excited to see how the arenas are though. Thanks for reading my tedtalk

[@MyPlaylists22]

the problem with new world, in my opinion, was that it was designed to be a successful software release, not a fun game. They tried a bunch of completely different approaches to the game, listened to feedback if people like that type of game, and if they said no they changed it. They never had someone at the top with a real vision, as asmon also says in this video, nobody had an idea of what they wanted the game to be like.

[@BigLebowski248]

If they recreated the alpha version (full pvp, old combat system, stagger) on a new server, I would come back immediately. They could have just removed the full loot on death and revamped the criminal system. Even if they just add pvp servers with combat stagger with all the current systems would be a huge improvement.

[@ZentriX187]

Love that death of a game POG Intro scene, and your reaction xD

[@ildirimnize9372]

I actually like a dangerous world. However, I think there are ways you can do it, that makes it "not" annoying. I feel like early wow did good with that, and I think Skyrim did a good job with it. A lot of dangerous worlds are dangerous just by having really high level monsters near roads. To me it's other things, but I am more of a WoW style fan. Thirst mattering, maps being hard to come by maybe. High cost for easy traveling, or make it a PC thing ((Like old wow with portals before you could easy of life never need a mage. When you had like 3 hearth stones all over the place, and gates for any class just about. I feel like New World did good with a hard world at first, but then you get into Brightwood and it becomes a little more rough, but managable. Then the swamp to the right of it, and it sucked ass. More over, as Asmongold said, ya, I couldn't bother to level more fighting the same shit over and over, and top that off with them patching shyt that wasn't broke.

[@zargisan9017]

I think an expansion like patch (new zones, add more dungeons, add raids, new PvP modes/battlegrounds, solo friendly content etc) will bring back new players. Couple this with going free to play for the content that was available prior to this patch. That will bring new players in and old players back IMO. Game is actually pretty good and has only gotten better over the last few months. Here’s to copium for my favorite game.

[@Graavigala85]

NewWorld and impressive visuals really does not go hand in hand

[@tim2598]

ωнαταρρ me right away please👆🏽

[@ArlanKels]

You know what helped kill New World? That they shut down character creation multiple times.

[@Lucascraft]

The middle game slog is exactly when I dropped off. Got to like 27 and was pretty bored of doing the same job-board missions over and over again. Repeatable content is fine, but there needs to be a good balance with some unique scripted content too. Also, the whole economy in the game was completely f*cked.

[@Frixon_]

I loved and still enjoy playing New World. I don't play as much as I used to, but come back to it at least once a week or so. I took my time and finally hit level 60 and I've had a lot of fun with the gypsum and such. I can tell what Asmongold means that if New World launched with that patch it'd have had a better retention rate. I may not have the same hours or play extensively, but I keep coming back to it and enjoying it as more of a casual game. I hope the devs keep working on the game and it does pull a No Man's Sky, or an ESO or even a Realm Reborn if they have to. I love the setting and the life skills are the best in an MMO I've ever played, being a huge fan of Survival games. It needs more time but I think New World could reach a fairly good community even if it doesn't get to even 50k daily players.

[@1LuvMLPFiM]

As a FFXIV andy, I was planning on playing New World myself whenever I get a new GPU (since prices are still jacked up and my current GPU died at the worst time), but it seems it didn't live up to expectations.

[@steventhunderhawk]

at launch off new world, wat turned me away was the fear of my gpu potentially going to catch on fire , and that put me on hold till all the bugs are fixed i still wanna play it too

[@RealCecilion]

MMO‘s are not only hard but impossible to create. There’s so many things people will quit on or not even start it’s insane in comparison to other genres and you can clearly see that when you are looking at WoW’s timeline only. It’s way too hard to please so many different takes while on for example Battle Royale shooters basically just have to have a good feel and performance and you’re good to go. I’m certain every MMO will die. Some slowly like WoW and some faster.

[@RealCecilion]

@@KZbinDictatorship2024 even if they cant do it right, people still enjoy more BR's if they like BR overall then MMO's if skip the games with bad performance.

[@The1rust]

It sucks how many MMO games just totally forget about the middle experience. Age of Conan, as an example, had an amazing 1 - 20 early game until you left Tortage which then dropped you in to a barren game that didn't even have enough quests to out level zones so you just did mob grinds.

[@sophisticatedpepe]

28 minutes video and asmongold extended it to 1 hour by pausing and commenting. What a G, our typical Asmon

[@Mayhemzz]

If the game released NOW with the Arena update I strongly believe it would've kept close to 50% of the peak, even more if/when Arenas get a rated mode so people can properly compete. The PvE experience is slowly improving, they're adding more dungeons and I believe the new desert zone before the end of this year. It will continue to slowly improve, and could very easily have a resurgence with a big expansion if they do one. Also I googled "Musket bullet speed" and it says roughly 450-540 meters a second, which is definitely "hitscan" to the naked eye.

[@MyDestroyer24]

With everyone going with a bow build. I literally logged on for the new patch and arenas. OPR more than half of the players running bows. Arenas will pair you up with 2 healers and one melee, either that or 4 out of 6 players using the bow. I can’t be in the open now because I’ll get shot to death by arrows and bullets. Personally I don’t want to be in PVP if half the players are just ranged, killing you before you can even get close to them.

[@Mayhemzz]

@@MyDestroyer24 Yes there's a lot of bow users because the bow is really good if you can aim, and playing full melee in world PvP is almost always a bad idea for the simple reason that you often can't close gaps easily without support. Something I like to do for melee is run Spear/Hatchet or Spear/Gaxe using the Spear purely for CCing people as they run away. Javelin, Sweep and Vault Kick are insane to combo with a thick Gaxe.

[@toner01]

i stopped playing at level 29 in the pre order public test because i didnt want to get too far into the game before it actually launched. then by the time launch actually came around i realized that i was just playing the launch version of the game. this really demotivated me to continue playing so i quit around level 20 along with many of my friends. its sad because i really did enjoy playing the game in the pre order alpha.

[@FoxTailGames]

As somebody with a beard, beard oils 100% actually work and do something lol, its not some miracle hair growth shit lol, it acts as a sort of moisturizer/softener for beard hair, as well as a hair stimulant, which is not the same as hair growth magic mushroom shit lol, it just helps stimulate the already existing follicles, basically just helping the hair grow better.

[@LittleRedRubberDuck]

Enjoyed the content creator, good video to react to. These types of videos makes for a very good mix with Asmons on going discussion on the topics.

[@Derpysadboy]

I haven't heard or seen much but from what I've seen this is basically failed albion with different graphics, I mean, sand box mmo with factions and open world stuff...seems pretty close, I'm probably dead wrong tho

[@tim2598]

ωнαταρρ me right away please👆🏽

[@scotter]

I love your videos! From the Amber Turd case to game play, reviews, and commentary! Wonder if you have plans to stream/upload 1440p content?

[@okamichamploo]

I really liked the New World combat. at least until I joined a guild and every other weak they would want me to switch to fit the meta which was super limiting to the point where half the weapons I enjoyed using weren't allowed, and then the new thing I spend hours leveling would be taken off the list the next week.

[@Retrofun69]

It will always be heartbreaking to know that Double Helix was pulled from their amazing work on Killer Instinct to work on the trash that was New World.

[@Papst_Polle]

I kinda enjoyed the grind. It got too repetitive after a while but I kept grinding because I was hooked. What killed my vibe was a 24h ban, apparently because of my player name, with no Message or Chance to change before that and THEN Getting a permaban on reddit because I complained about that. Dude, I payed for that game, get some customer service going.

[@CrunchyF123]

i prepurchased to play in the open beta, played 100+ hours and loved it ... when it released i played for 4 hours and got bored real quick and never played again !

[@DTSoR]

New World 100% need an Final Fantasy nuke. The whole game needs to be restarted and fixed

[@AJ_Stone]

Most of us were lvl 60 and in maxed gear (and higher in the new gearing system) maxed life skills (200 and into that new system of measurement) on the 3 servers we all played on. We had characters on all 3 servers and 5 Discords and we all just walked away. Which was a shame, the music and the atmosphere (all of it in the beginning really) were just so good. A lot of us went to Lost Ark, but many have left it as well after max levelling (well over 1415) due to all of the bots, exploits, market manipulation, etc. They had nerfed and buffed so much crap in New World (like you said, the solo runs in Myrk and the Mines was a great challenge and a fun experience) Then after all of the changes, all of us just starting doing daily zergs and would loot the map in a matter of about an hour. Then we would run portal zergs. And that was just the beginning, they started off "tweaking and changing" the subtle little things, and then it just went to shit. We got tired of figuring out ways around it all just to enjoy the game. I actually ran the update today just to see what it was like. Still shit. So many bots in Myrk and the Mines, I didnt see an actual player. We all know the bots player names, and their routes (its like clockwork 24-7) I was actually surprised to see they were actually still there tbh. But the player base was nil. I talked to like 4 players from guilds that I was in (I left one guild and joined another) that still play and even they said how dead it is, they just all play together casually. They dont even do chest runs or anything, just dungeons. They alternate between New World and Lost Ark (until the "next big hyped" MMO or similar game comes out)

[@SwedetasticGames]

Sieges for city control and being able to put taxes was a fantastic mechanic tbh

[@kauinoa2004]

I was the Executive Director for a healthcare non-profit and the board for the organization was a rotating volunteer board with literally no understanding of the industry or specifics. It was like herding cats around a room full of land mines while having to wear a smile. Oh also, black powder muskets had velocities between 400 feet per second to 1100 feet per second so at even 100 feet it wouldn’t be hitscan on a moving target

[@Syphirioth]

So far my favorite mmo is still gonna be ESO. Even with the shit lag in the massive warzone. It's still one of the best mmo. Just because you can go away for a year and not be behind on anyone else in terms of power. Sets that are 5 years old are still usable. Level cap is still the same. The CP system is pretty good in that regard.

[@BrJPGameplay]

30:55 this reminded me of my first job, so there is the NGO on my city that provides pretty much teenage labor education and jobs for teens about to get to adulthood in governmental institutions with office spaces, and on the job I got, by month 2 of a 2 year contract I realized the guy responsible for my sector was just a someone who didn't knew nothing, the only thing that he would do was expect documents to show up in his desk magically, and try to awe the teens on that sector about how "great" of a boss he was, although we were young we weren't THAT impressionable, and when I realized, I was treating the old lady, who worked on that sector since the 80's and knew EVERYTHING there was to know about our functions and our responsibilities like she was my REAL boss, and I feel like that since today, after years out of that place. (Besides she was just a nice lady, and sometimes even bring home made pies and other things for the sector people, they were delicious btw) What I think I am trying to get at is, if your leadership is lacking, there will be dissatisfaction, and your workers will either try and rely in other people, or even just straight up not do their work right.

[@mitchellkrever421]

I quit 2-3 months after i hit level 60. My problem was I ran out of content THAT I ENJOYED DOING. Running the same 3 dungeons over and over, zerging chest runs, or gathering resources for hours and hours... all bored me.

[@cdiff07]

Defective capacitors on certain RTX 3090 GPU's, mainly EVGA, but their were some reports of other 3090's that companies used cheaper capacitors on that could not handle the loads!

[@vwlssnvwls3262]

New World has a ton of great things going for it. I love the way you level weapons. I love the gathering and crafting. And the world feels massive, and interesting. The biggest problem I had was it feels like doing nothing over and over, just to do nothing over and over.

[@elihaun9886]

It is like they assigned all of the mechanics to different designers/engineers/teams. Those mechanics were great on their own, but they never had a good director that could take those mechanisms and designs and mesh them together in a fun, engaging way. All of the pieces of a puzzle need to fit together. Instead, all of the pieces, as well done as they were, ended up being from different puzzles

[@canineh2o227]

It sucks the player count is so low even though I don’t play, I was going strong with a group early on but quickly people were dropping like flies. I ended up playing solo (when all the bottling/duping and market crashes were nearing its peak) I grinded from 37 to 59 swapped server and that one soon dies as well, I gave up & uninstalled.

[@dillonjay6605]

Asmon, hit the nail on the head at 53:40 that is the exact reason why I quit. Soloing chest runs was some of the best gameplay I have had in an MMO

[@prephampaul]

The bugs and slow 'fix' then bugs again was what pushed my entire Company away from it. I am still playing off and on, love the sounds, graphics, game play but yeah, it lost it's initial appeal and while I hope it could build back a player base, I have more doubts it can.

[@DeusKnight]

21:55 holy shit I never thought I would see Conquer Online ever again

[@AlexandreBackes]

I loved New World on Preview.. we would slay monsters to level up, do lots of corruption portals with a bunch of friends was really fun, and had freedom on the Map exploration.. at release we had 1 tonne of crappy quests to do and we were kinda stuck to it, No more freedom on map exploration... I'd love if they took focus on the Combat of the game which was the revolutionary aspect of New World... and Instead of making crappy boring quests, they would made more combat situations, more encounters like the corrupted portals but for the other especies, mobs, dungeons, etc... Questing Sux

[@NTTTTTT52]

Stopped playing when they added all those extra tentacles to Scorpius, changed the terrain of scorched mines and added scaling to mobs in Myrkguard among other places. Terrible changes, meanwhile trophies/furniture was bugged for 3+ weeks among other gold/item dupes and bugs.

[@utikahk4538]

Bro..I'm trying to watch this video but I'm rolling at your level 99 earth shield that gave you your "perfect skin with no blemishes" lol

[@TheSpicyLeg]

Muskets don’t fire bullets at all. They fire ‘shot’ or a slug. A bullet is the copper-coated lead that is discharged from a cartridge when fired. The actual speed is comparably slow, as shot is just a round metal ball, and muskets don’t have rifling (the curved grooves inside the barrel which gives a bullet twist as it travels, think of a football thrown with a spiral). An average rifle load fires bullets at anywhere from 1000 to 5000 feet per second, a musket fires a shot at about 1400 feet per second.