DEBATE: BETA Males, a Woman's Place, White Privilege, Kanye & Mental Slavery (#91)

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On this episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson sits down with two accomplished entertainers. Joe Hernandez-Kolski is a two-time HBO Def Poet and Emmy award-winner. Joshua Silverstein is an actor, comic, and beatboxer who can be seen weekly on "Drop the Mic" on TBS. Jesse asks his two guests about being multiracial (Joe is Mexican and Polish, and Joshua is Jewish and black), as well as what they think of interracial dating. The conversation moves into an exchange about men and masculinity: should men be emotional and into their feelings? Is gender God-made, or man-made (aka, a social construct)? What is a "woman's place"? The interview also covers God and religion, Donald Trump (also known as "The Great White Hope"), Kanye West, and how to escape from mental slavery. Don't miss a fun and entertaining dialogue!
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[@fabian110]

Kind of disrespectful to have your feet on people's furniture like that.

[@Chriskelly19067]

fabian110 but it's ok because he's a beta soy boy....they're basically the same as pre teen girls

[@andreamcgavin4651]

RockHumper 😁

[@ethant001]

especially a white chair. what a compassionate guy

[@ghostryder94]

amazin Jesse didnt call it him out for that pussy move. No man goes into another man's world and behaves that way.

[@savagematti777]

He’s like a little girl

[@animalmother5689]

"While the boys were rough housing outside I was the one on the dance floor with the girls" "Amazing" 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@lionelhutz5137]

I was quite partial to window smashing and lighting fires but fortunately grew out of that.

[@gov3rnor17]

Time stamp

[@gov3rnor17]

Nvm

[@struBANG]

Amazin!

[@etf42]

'Gender is a construct to create power' Sometimes I cant believe people think like this.

[@nikunashi3494]

When they go to see a Doctor with lower abdominal pain they will learn gender inst a construct.

[@juliat9490]

I guess if you repeat any ridiculous nonsense very often, you're gonna believe it in the end.

[@str8uplivn]

and he said there's no scientific proof of gender! Like estrogen and hormones don't exist. Periods and PMS don't exist. LMAO where do these people get these convictions from? TV?

[@Tubeman777]

Yeah this is crazy marxist bullcrap

[@nikunashi3494]

I want to ask him why female testicular cancer rates are so low.

[@bham7bh]

I LOVE watching the intro where they go on about their accomplishments each show, they have NO IDEA what's about to happen 🤣😂

[@popedizzled_mywizzle]

Doright Christopher - what makes him a snake?

[@kenwalton5703]

Pope Dizzle I wouldn't say snake but there are times he is factualy wrong

[@dorightchristopher116]

Pope Dizzle because he was born black. Raise black and grow up and bite only blacks

[@urgandma]

Doright Christopher so he should be born and raised to be a liberal.

[@dorightchristopher116]

UhHuh no he should b born and raise a true Christian not a phoney. That hides behind the bible to claim what he say is gospel. He claims he is a preacher but tells people not to read bible hahahaha what a joke he is

[@buildthewallwiththewoke6196]

Real men don't sit cross legged on a seat, much less someone else's seat.

[@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God]

He's 1/7th native American, how dare you.

[@xubarze]

He's sitting like that because he's trying to avoid leaving period stains on Jessie's chair.

[@kenwalton5703]

Build The Wall With Liberals thtz a fact

[@urgandma]

If it ain't got an ottoman, I'm crossing my legs, but only at home with comfortable clothes.

[@buildthewallwiththewoke6196]

SixPack Shakur (Rep5281) Says the dude who put six pack in his name.

[@nikunashi3494]

If anyone asks me what a soyboy is I will send them this video.

[@JayBaso]

Niku Nashi lol

[@nikkinonose9316]

Yup,lil old jellyfish been floating so long he's so slack lord he don't got a bone in his jelly back

[@roberthelring6372]

Niku Nashi exactly

[@bpentium]

Two women without vaginas

[@bpentium]

Baggie pants equal advertizing fo r sex in prison

[@thefitaccountant]

By watching how these guys talk, body language & the overly explanations. I thought they were gay, acting to feminine.

[@jakethesnake2655]

The Fit Accountant thinking the same thing

[@hadesthebassist]

agreed lol

[@andreamcgavin4651]

The Fit Accountant Lol its so obvious yes.

[@thefitaccountant]

the_feature_selector 👈🏻 aw! Someone is triggered

[@Tubeman777]

Me too. Joshua did say Joe is my "Partner" LOL kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3SooamvfZVrpK8m51s

[@RMGWOO]

That's so amazing, this guy believes that when he was accepted into a female group that it meant he was a lady's man.

[@timeflowEqualquin]

😂😂

[@johndegraw1220]

Who sits like that at someone elses place..

[@losbrooklyn8861]

john degraw I don't think his feet touch the floor, like a kid in a booster chair

[@franklogrim8510]

john degraw sitting like that is something a person feeling insecure would do.

[@johndegraw1220]

Frank Logrim. Thats for sure. Or trying to be a baby...maybe he also has a baby bottle

[@johndegraw1220]

Los Brooklyn. Yes...he wants a baby bottle and a blanky I think....

[@xubarze]

He's sitting like that because he's trying to avoid leaving period stains on Jessie's chair.

[@randomchargingplug1616]

That guy is making me second guess growing a mustache. Looks like he's ready to do the Y.M.C.A

[@TheJamesearljr]

Young man!!!!

[@jangolub8240]

TheJamesearljr i said YOUNG MAN

[@tajstanley2529]

Your name super hilarious!!!

[@clarencetroy520]

Try growing some pubic hair first. This video is all about you! You are the classic beta male. Stop sitting down when you pee you little beatch

[@marcfilms999]

The glasses and mustache combo look like a stereotypical ped-oh look. Not saying he's one of course but the look doesn't look good at all.

[@drewknowswhatsright]

It’s sad how weak these men are and how blinded they are by the Truth smh. God job JESSE we love you !!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@user-gu1ti9me6i]

That's antisemitic.

[@travisschaefer5286]

@@user-gu1ti9me6ilol 😂😂😂

[@JT-th1gh]

What a couple of queens, they sound like little girls at a sleep over, could never talk with those two

[@michaelr1577]

the_feature_selector triggered much. These guys are weak

[@JT-th1gh]

the_feature_selector It's being proud of who you are, try not to be so narrow minded.

[@destroya3303]

+M R They are weak. Well why don't you guys love them?

[@busaracerx]

Jonathan Thorne and here it is I thought it was just me ..

[@ellisjackson3355]

the_feature_selector "take the piss out of you here" ...eh, that sounds kinda wonky lol

[@blackadvertisment6139]

I'm Polish man and yet I'm deeply ashamed of what this poor guy turned into... AMAZING!

[@jordanviking8776]

Ateistyczna Prawica well... that's cause he's a jew

[@user-gu1ti9me6i]

​@@jordanviking8776Correct. Let's see how long it takes for others to now start connecting the dots.

[@sega_saturn4life590]

These two guest are a perfect example of what liberalism has done to men. When you ask your self “what has happened to masculinity and men? Watch this video for liberal awareness. Liberalism is to blame for a lot of the problems of today.

[@supernez3685]

Hundreds of men were brought up by their single mums who told them how to treat a women..not realise themselves that those are not the qualities the mother were attracted to. Then the boy grows up too emotional and needy and they can’t figure out why women reject them!! This is the reality!

[@rp479]

“I was a walking swash of color and fabric” I have never heard a gayer sentence in my life. Don’t know if there is one.

[@SundaysHealing]

Rp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣#sweeterthancandy

[@catra195]

Rp hahahah

[@TG-jf5kh]

Hahahaha "Jesse have you seen Bambi" no "I've seen Popeye the Sailor Man. Too funny...love Jesse's response.

[@missesrobot8182]

Jesse is a genius. He asks basic questions, basic thinking, and somehow these people who clearly feel superior intellectually, end up getting very flustered. It's interesting and makes one ponder about how much they actually think about the rhetoric they spew or whether or not they're simply an echo chamber saying things others want to hear.

[@travisschaefer5286]

Exactly! They will say anything to remain relevant

[@struBANG]

Just don’t ask him to say asks

[@OffRoad-jh1do]

Gender was created by God! There is two man and woman.

[@volkzmedizen8171]

"What's a woman?" "They are AWESOME!!!" "What's a man?" "Well, we are all FALLIBLE but we try..." Suddenly I taste my lunch again.

[@losbrooklyn8861]

Oh myyyy gawwd these guys are victimizing themselves, I'm mixed don't speak spanish but very cultured, I wld never whine about it! My gawd they need to man up! Geeesh His hardship was wearing baggy pants? Please someone WAKE ME UP from this nightmare. These guys are regurgitating all the BS.. They have a technical answer for everything how exhausting.

[@waltersobchak6]

I’m 3 minutes into the video and just said these guys are guppys

[@metalslug38]

It got cringey quick lmao

[@mjmramirez]

I don't speak Spanish, but I can pronounce 'Latino' like I do lol. Weak & insecure!

[@kathleenj01]

Los Brooklyn Oh I thought it was just me...Bless them, but they are a couple of bores..

[@HDGamingPlus]

Yeah...what I saw was two very privileged individuals that are confused due to the way society is going against every traditional value which has proven to be successful throughout history. It's sad to see so many people putting themselves in a box because they think they have to identify with a specific color, culture, etc. You will feel so much more freedom and understanding in life when you detach yourself from these identity chains, and let yourself live the way you truly wish to live rather than continuing to be a slave to the mindset of how other people want you to think.

[@tnuctaf]

“I went to the best public school in the city of Chicago “ is like saying I went to the best medical school in Kenya

[@Hippo_Hegemony]

" there are 4.5 billion men in this country" Why did no one else point this out!

[@etf42]

i gave him the benefit of the doubt that it was hyperbole

[@Hippo_Hegemony]

etf42 I don't think you come up with 4.5 billion unless you're serious. Espically when confined to a single country

[@Hippo_Hegemony]

walker john no one corrected him either, I would've been on him

[@dmn2273]

walker john You’re kidding right??? 🤦‍♂️

[@Hippo_Hegemony]

Chairots of fire well apparently there's 4.5 billion males.

[@sarapujols350]

Everyday I thank God for having been liberated from liberalism.

[@CoolPapaJMagik]

Me too. I’ve gone far the other way too because I’ve seen the error of my ways and the dangers of the “tolerance” mindset. Liberalism is just the precursor to le f ti st tyranny

[@visitswflorida]

Putting his feet on other people's furniture. Wow. His mother literally ruined him for life. That shit runs deep.

[@cjconner5032]

Alcoholics are always emotional. They become alcoholics because they "embrace" their emotions instead of overcoming...

[@scovell7]

Did that man with his feet on the furniture really call Jesse honey?

[@pjay90999]

soy boy Mexican polish guy

[@michellekeys4755]

p jay I want him to prove he's not a Khazar Jew.

[@_hydro_2112]

Soy>>>>meat

[@pineapplaplatypotamus]

I got a dick in my ass just playin' with my toy like a soy boy Mexican Polish boy XD

[@tomb8835]

Blew my mind when they said they were straight, they are so feminine. How do these guys attract women?

[@HYPERBOWLER]

Jesse is amazin’

[@joshmilo8523]

I read that in jesse's voice

[@mitchellfleming1666]

AMAZINNNNNNNN

[@shekelclipper4069]

You sir are AMAZING! I just came across your channel yesterday and have been binging on and off for the last 30 hours or so... I love your intellect and interview style.

[@TRafael82]

He speaks from holy spirit not intellect. He confronts the intellects to bring out their BS.

[@miyaladyscorpio8996]

A man doesn't sit criss cross apple sauce in a chair or call another man hunny 😂

[@ethant001]

Clapping his hands on every point and had his hand on his face for 50 minutes. What a MAN.

[@deshizle]

There's no such thing as talking white or black or particular race. When a black person is told they speak white it usually means that person speak proper.

[@t.m.3769]

DeShawn not necessarily. They may also have a lighter tone. A lot of blacks have heavier voices. I’m a black woman so this is not a racist viewpoint.

[@deshizle]

Your right. It just from my experience when I heard a black person tell another black person you sound or talk white it's usually in reference of talking proper because I heard blacks even with deep voices told they talk white because they talk proper english or uses big words. But tone of the voice is another factor of it too.

[@dreamknot7855]

Don Rider - No. It's because they speak English properly.

[@Gigilovehugs]

So sad for black people to think that about themselves no do I agree

[@Algarete-ip2pj]

DeShawn I hate that

[@spacewarrior769]

We used to have a word for these kinds of guys but I can't say it on here anymore

[@newyorkfan16]

The word is "Faggot" Learn to assert your freedom, the establishment is not gonna give it to you; they only take it, and that's if you let them!

[@jasfan8247]

Yoe meen "sissies" ? These guys are alright when they are dentists or taking care of hospitals and such....

[@cowlico]

@@jasfan8247 Yup!! I still call em freaking sissies!!

[@telleroflies4373]

i call them GAY

[@Shiwanokia-oo1nq]

OM they are so conditioned I don't see any hope for these two guys ever getting past themselves to have a truly coherent thought.

[@guitarsmoke3669]

A real man takes care of his family and respects others and his community.

[@vickycano6247]

Exactly and a woman must be there beside him to lift him up

[@guitarsmoke3669]

Lilly Black true true

[@jspears19]

Lilly Black *wives

[@23hamze]

These guys aren't gay. This is the evaluation of the modern man. In 10 years you will not be able to tell the difference between a man and a women

[@t.m.3769]

Which is the problem.

[@Youngrocko11811]

Thanks to jlp I have hope for the future

[@ET-lg4mt]

Halfway there

[@88888Rob88888]

This fella is a legend i cant believe ive never watched these before

[@travisschaefer5286]

I just found Jesse this year. I missed so many years of evidence against the left. I wish I would’ve seen through this lens all these years ago. But it’s never too late to see the truth

[@drewknowswhatsright]

I think they were offended by Jesse because of how feminine they were but Jesse speaks the truth and calls it how he sees it! We need more MEN like JESSE 🙏🏼

[@cowlico]

I remember watching this then finding it here recently and showing it to my son, changed his life. Been a while since I saw this one but I had to show it to my nephew this time 😂😂

[@telleroflies4373]

Terry crews big fan

[@UnbelievablyGauche]

they hit all the buzzwords, i feel like a bingo game coming on. struggle journey identity structural construct experience privelege ummmm for meeee

[@davidwalz94]

Yup, so so sad.

[@dannyoctopuscarey8785]

“As a *insert identity here* man” That’s also a favourite

[@joerodriguez7753]

Let me know when the next game happens I'm down to play.

[@Mrm27274]

I hate the modern world. The ideals are so messed up. Everyone is in some form of denial of reality. This idea of recreating everything is so wrong. They're like, "hey, I don't like truth because it's not what I want so I'm going to make deception truth and truth something to overcome". It's messing everything up in the world. Only chaos can come from it. It's so tiring.

[@MH3GL]

What an accurate depiction. Wonderfully articulated.

[@TRafael82]

Not everyone. There are still level headed people or who searching for the answers taking the narrow path rather then the easy one.

[@Mrm27274]

@tr-2801 not nearly enough.

[@paultoy9611]

A woman's place is to love and care for her husband and family.Her family's place is to love mom and take care of her in the best possible way.

[@AJ-sr8pq]

Get your feet off the furniture. What are you two years old?

[@lionelhutz5137]

"Fuck yo couch, nigga!"

[@kek397]

@@lionelhutz5137 Couch yo fuck, nigga!

[@carloscastillo839]

He’s a bayy duhh male

[@jamesrobinson9740]

Sad to see men like this exsist

[@SumDumGai5]

James Robinson Stop trying to police how other men live their lives. That's a feminine trait. "Real men"" are too busy living their own damn lives to care about what someone else is doing.

[@SumDumGai5]

Roland Carver Spoken like a truely nosey little female. Sounds like you got touched as a child.

[@happymess3219]

James Robinson 😕 ikr... and so many of them so quickly... it's like they're multiplying...

[@SumDumGai5]

@On TheEdge You're either a mangina or a silly little female.

[@analyze077]

“Emotions and feelings are different” WOW

[@AM-cg9yw]

What?! "Access emotions?" "Gender is a construct.". Righttttt. Weirdo.

[@TrazeCLX]

😆 that’s amazin.. they definitely more than “friends” .. Get em Jesse 🔥🔥🔥

[@hafadude69]

The best thing a women can say to you in an arguement is, "you are such a man".

[@brendanbloomberg3283]

Jesse, always dressed to the nines.

[@Hb2N]

These the types of guys you start fights with at the bar.

[@orlandosanchez5638]

Hb 2N cause there gay and weak ?

[@justincarlton4807]

All I know is a man doesn't sit with his legs crossed in the chair with his dirty shoes on someone else's furniture. You are a guest, you shouldn't put your feet in someone else's chair. I'm only saying this because I'm trying to teach my children this and it irks me too see this. I don't understand a grown man doing this.

[@herberthancock1286]

thank you rev. lots of love and respect from toronto canada

[@manthony777]

The feminine caucasian lib dude was dying to school Jesse on the plight of blacks because of those horrible caucasian men, but Jesse wasn't having it. The feet on the furniture was very disrespectful and rude.

[@OzemMezo]

jesse u are the man i love u buddy

[@karangoswami4472]

I bet Jesse takes his thumbnail pics prior to the interview

[@Mshabbak]

🤣 "Not all, not all, not all but most"😂😂😂

[@chefriz5486]

GET KANYE ON THE SHOW MR. PETERSON

[@pineapplaplatypotamus]

Yes

[@jasfan8247]

They are working on it......!

[@joebeastyg5686]

I was so confused growing up, too. I had a huge identity crisis my whole life until I discovered I was a "grower" and not a "shower". After that day it was smooth sailing.

[@rotkarshininiquist2982]

That "how are women awesome?" question really showed their colors.

[@popedizzled_mywizzle]

Rotkar Shininiquist elaborate please

[@ZigmasOfSamogitia]

4:33 when he said "lathino," I considered jumping off a bridge

[@Kyle__V]

This is hard to watch especially when then talked about women🤣🤣🤣

[@chasewhite774]

When he said he started boxing 😭😂🤣

[@fabiodellacuna8180]

Love your choice for the outro music; the great mccoy tyner

[@AM-cg9yw]

OK... They're girly men! Shame. Teaching his children to be in touch with their emotions. What happened to mom? What happened to teaching his son respect for himself and others.

[@MsEry-kg7uy]

What passes as accomplishments these days seems fairly low grade. A def poet? A beatboxer? Was it slim pickings in L.A. Jesse?

[@MsEry-kg7uy]

Also is it just me or is it annoying as all get out when Latinos pronounce 'Latinos' with an accent? Like they must prove their Latino-ness with Spanish? 😒😝😧

[@Tc-nu8cu]

I was just saying that the other night! i think that's a brian regan joke too , it's so true too. The media does it too they don't even have to be spanish, everytime they read a news story with the word latino in it they minus well pull out the rattlers and do the mockaraina

[@Tc-nu8cu]

and then the ~latino~ community came outta nowhere !

[@MsEry-kg7uy]

over eager douchebag 😂 you nailed that so hard I'm afraid that every time I hear ~latinos~ from now on I'm also gonna hear the mariachi band too! Dammit! 🎵🎶🎺🥁🎷🎵🎶

[@22markski22]

Tiredof Bull right when he said Latino, I mocked him out loud 😂😂 that's so funny.

these two are a joke

[@Mikedc100]

The dude says he's got a Beyonce when asked if he's married oh man he must be such a pushover, just a sycophant to his wife who can never be wrong.

[@busaracerx]

tom collins I don't think they have,girlfriends or wives or the opportunity for such

[@teffreminilik]

Thank you Jesse❤️😘

[@mgmorgan0223]

Good job putting that tag at the top of your thumbnails. 10/10, it makes it easier to just look and see what your clicking on.

[@shanehelm2482]

I'm a white man, 24 years old who delivers pizza and changes oil at a dealership for a living. I am in no way wealthy. I am actually very poor. I agree with the truth. My eyes have been opened by jesus and my wife is the same. I agree with Jesse Lee Peterson on almost every subject. Surely every subject in this video. Probly because I'm privileged though lol

[@HardSoundGuy]

Jesse, I love your show. It's amazing! You can tell it's going to be fun because he's sitting like that in a chair

[@italiwoods]

Oh man, what a great interview! I can’t believe that it even went for so long! I had to check and there was more than half of the video left. Couldn’t believe it. Great job and excellent questions! I don’t think they realize how insulting they are when they talk in that condescend way, soft ignorant calling.

[@kseke25]

It's "amazing" for Jesse to meet men who actually like women. Amazing!

[@Kyle__V]

This dude said 4.5 billion different men in this country lol 😆

[@Necrobutcher82]

Nice interview

[@michellekeys4755]

One of these guys is a handler. You'll figure it out. 🤓

[@londalecarter3482]

Everybody liked vanilla ice for like 5/13ths of a second

[@WeeklyNarrative]

Chronic soy addicts. Couldn't be happier that this is my competition in the real world.

[@walterrising7154]

Get your shoes off the couch! Ouuuta here!

[@jojothecuzo]

🤣🤣🤣😂 Jesse keep throwing shade on the low

[@MisaChan101]

I love this omg

[@gov3rnor17]

_So lemme ask?......_ Lmao loves when he says this😂

[@EvanRoo3]

"Emotions and feelings are different." When their metaphysical understanding of the world is erroneous how do you expect these men to understand the deeper issues at hand?

[@EvanRoo3]

Don't get sweet with me.

[@missesrobot8182]

Amy Winehouse's song "Stronger Than Me" lyrics: You should be stronger than me You've been here seven years longer than me Don't you know you supposed to be the man? Not pale in comparison to who you think I am You always want to talk it through, I don't care I always have to comfort you when I'm there But that's what I need you to do, stroke my hair 'Cause I've forgotten all of young love's joy Feel like a lady, and you my lady boy You should be stronger than me But instead you're longer than frozen turkey Why'd you always put me in control All I need is for my man to live up to his role You always want to talk it through, I'm okay I always have to comfort you every day But that's what I need you to do, are you gay? 'Cause I've forgotten all of young love's joy Feel like a lady, and you my lady boy He said "the respect I made you earn Thought you had so many lessons to learn" I said "You don't know what love is get a grip Sound as if you're reading from some other tired script" I'm not gonna meet your mother anytime I just want to grip your body over mine Please tell me why you think that's a crime I've forgotten all of young love's joy Feel like a lady, and you my lady boy You should be stronger than me

[@haza123b4]

*How are women awesome?* *They exist.*

[@jacobbarnwell8999]

Jesse is such a great guy

[@phyzlatte]

Why did no one else point out him singing “what is Love”? It was one of the best moments of the interview 😂

[@Roz0605]

Wow just wow…amazing job Jesse. These guys are def lady like, and I do hope they’ve overcome what we have witnessed

@22:50 You tell em Jesse! 😂😂👏👏

[@joshuawells1808]

Gender is a construct!? That always makes me laugh 😂

[@roharbaconmoo]

@40:00 They become condescending, all of a sudden, because they realize that they really are being challenged now. This entire time they have been pompously assuming, and it's like watching 2 children talking to an extremely handsome Jesse Peterson. However because they are both so closed-minded, and disinterested in ideas which conflict with their own narratives, they will never figure anything out unless spoon fed from their echo chambers.

[@phyzlatte]

I wish Jesse would do some covers of some classic songs.

[@30minutesLess]

I’m thankful for hank Williams Jr, listened to him way more than my mother.

[@terence4427]

Michelle Obama went to Whitney Young, a HIGHLY selective magnet school. I find it annoying when someone says they went to a "black school" without explaining it was a school for the "privileged". As such, I find the Hispanic/white guy to be a bit disingenuous.

[@daedalus2253]

Thought dude man with his legs crossed was applying for a Broadway play when he spoke at the beginning... Then watched further into the interview..

[@AltF-dl2ks]

Thanks jesse, for showing us how not be... These guys are pathetic

[@missesrobot8182]

"He reminds me of Jesus" lmao!

[@roberthelring6372]

Jesse love your videos God bless you

[@narcissenot]

Every answer starts with "my definition " of a word. Then how their definition of a word dictates their view. I would have done perfectly on vocabulary if definitions of words could be whatever I felt they were.