DEBATE! Cenk vs. Destiny: Should Biden Drop Out? with Joe Walsh & Brianna Wu

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As Biden nosedives in the polls, Cenk Uygur, Joe Walsh, and Brianna Wu team up against Destiny to argue whether the President should drop out of the race following his barely intelligible, disastrous performance during the Presidential Debate. The event is moderated by Whick of WhickTV.
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[@Hgcfdghjjvvc]

Destiny is the Democrat version of Ben Shapiro no one asked for.

[@zyephenz8466]

Lol I was thinking the same thing. XD

[@harryroadman1089]

hes good at arguing but has alot of stupid positions lol

[@americanexceptionalism1015]

Gotta admit it... can't listen to either without thinking about chalk on a blackboard!!!

[@VishanRatnayake]

i was thinking the same thing!

[@mruseless1664]

Hahhahahahahahahahaha. Nailed it.

[@Charles-js3ri]

Destiny is stealing oxygen.

[@hotsquirrel4277]

😂

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

That's what the Trump campaign is paying him to do. He works for them.

[@sloride3222]

Ya he’s a mouth breather 😂

[@kwayjay3740]

😂😂😂

[@MIS315]

I dont understand how anybody in their right mind takes Destiny seriously

[@phillyrocks3847]

Most Democrats are not in their right minds. Most can't tell you what a woman is.

[@jayterry9759]

As soon as I saw Destinys name I knew he was going to be insane. He lives in a completely alternate universe than everyone else. He's insane.

[@MilesDoyleSalt]

Psalm 22 "My God My God why have you forsaken me?.... bulls of bashan surround me they pierce my hands and feet.... they cast lots for my garments... "“He trusts in the Lord,” they say, “let the Lord rescue him.(R) Let him deliver him,(S) since he delights(T) in him.” "I am poured out like water" etc like with other passages in the psalms, genesis, (including theophany appearances in the torah) Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Proverbs etc are considered messianic in rabbinic Judaism as the suffering servant messiah Ben Joseph, and to Christianity as Yeshua, Jesus bless you ❤ Edit: To expand on this is of course Isaiah 53 where you have the servant being crushed by God as an offering for sin for others, who dies and sees life and his seed afterwards, who dies with thieves and in a rich man's tomb, and who was despised and rejected, so why there is a common view of two messiahs, Ben yosef and Ben David, one messiah as the suffering servant and another as the conqueror who sets up the kingdom. Isaiah 52 the messiah draws Israel back to himself. Some fun and sad things are like people would say Jesus didn't exist despite Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Lucian etc and the apostles writings and the successors/church fathers of the apostles/bishops writings and josephus, because "Nazareth doesn't exist" until of course Nazareth was discovered, or another one, "there was no synagogue in capnernaum" until we found it, or Thomas Payne in age of reason "Bible is false because there were no kings during Jesus's time" until we found King Herod Agrippa's coins, or "Jesus wasn't buried in a tomb because crucifixion victims weren't buried in tombs" until we found crucifixion victims with the nails still in tombs in tombs. More cool things, are Jesus sweating blood in the garden of Gethsemane, this is a real phenomenon called Hematidrosis where death row inmates sweat blood, also another when Jesus is pierced and water and blood come out this actually happens when water builds around the lungs, it confused some early church fathers on the spiritual meaning, but it's a real phenomenon that occurs as well. Many rabbis into gematria etc say there is a curse upon reading Daniel 9 because it says Messiah The Prince must come and bring in eternal righteousness before the destruction of Solomon's temple, no wonder they say that as then if Messiah didn't come before 70 a.d. there is no messiah, those who have divided messiah into two were confused if the messiah would come riding on a donkey or horse, so the two messiahs, as opposed to the jews who believe in Jesus and himself, who state himself and two arrivals. Of course this is why Islam falls quickly because while they call Jesus messiah they don't understand what it means, and Muhammad of course denied the historical fact of Jesus dying by crucifixion (Which besides tacitus mentioning pontius pilate doing it to him, we even have an inscription that was uncovered oh pilate and dates lining up with his time being the procurator/prefect over Jerusalem) besides Muhammad being the total opposite of Jesus, Muhammad had sex with his child bride Aisha who was nine, he beheaded and crucified people, said not to trust jews and Christians, he had Ethiopian slaves and called them raisin heads, he called jews monkeys and rats, he slaughtered villages and the wives of families he killed said you can take them and have sex with them, he got caught having sex with his slave by Aisha and said he would not do it anymore then conveniently "Allah" comes and says it's fine and he can, he's a textbook false prophet, with of course takiyah being they will lie to you about what I said above, Islam is meant to subjugate the world I'd into belief by force, if you don't convert you must pay a tax, if you don't pay it you die. Allah has no love for unbelievers unlike Jesus who loves his enemies and we are meant to love all even to death, I'd write more but youtube doesn't like long messages, with eastern thought eternal universe doesn't fit the mold because and infinite amount of successive events becoming then impossible to have the present, we would never reach today because we would always have a yesterday or event before this moment, an immaterial, spaceless, timeless, mind (agency) bringing space-time into reality, is the best explanation for why anything exists including someone as amazing and as lovely as yourself 😊 So the disciples who say "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." And "13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." Since the witnesses knew whether or not they were lying and knew what it would mean to continue to say he did in fact rise and is the Messiah and God in the flesh then yes I believe them as The Messiah had to come during that time, a mind/agency creating the universe is the best cause for reality, Jesus is the most moral, truthful and charismatic and loving and honest person there is, and the most important and influential, (Buddha said he was still searching for truth, Jesus say, "I am the truth, the way and the life") Jesus gives us love and salvation as a gift without earned merit by us, not working our way to the truth or God or eternal destiny through every other religious and spiritual framework, he loves you and cares so much for you before he created you and wants a living relationship with you here and now not just after you die 😊 There's a million other things to cover that I want to say but this is probably a good stopping point but Jesis wants to remove the shadow in your life and Jesus wants you as you are right now he wants your heart and to live in you and you to know his love personally 😊 I had people prophesy over me very specific things nobody else knew about my past, things I was thinking or experienced even just the day before, Jesus healed me of sleep paralysis I had for years, depression and loneliness, I had a dream of a woman named Heather and a voice telling me their dad had died, a couple days later i meet them and they tell me about how they had just lost their dad that week, I feel God telling me to sit down and close my eyes and I see an outline of someone going to the bathroom very bizarre, then shortly after someone out of the blue asking me to pray for them as they are having trouble going to the bathroom, another was I ask Jesus alone "are you my buddy?" A couple hours later someone contacts me and they say "Yes Jesus is saying yes he is your buddy" another time was I obsessing a little over this blue suit and someone prophecies "I see you in this blue suit" etc, another time I was testing this whole thing and I'm about to be prophecied over and I have my Google notes out I had tried writing out a little story and it was about a fire and forest being burnt down and I ask God to confirm if he wants me to write this and sort of as a test because everything had been scary accurate and the person right after says "God wants you to be his little stick lit ablaze with his love, it may not seem like much but one small flame can burn down a whole forest" 😂 another one was I had this. Surreal vision looking at stars, shortly after someone messages me saying Jesus is looking at a telescope with you saying to you "everything I have is yours even the stars" another one I was in the bathroom asking God for a message for my friend Moses in Nigeria and as I'm leaving the bathroom i freeze in place and go into this bizarre trance like Peter in the book of acts and I see my friend Moses as a child playing with a toy firetruck and Jesus sitting next to him with love, I quickly tell them and they are in shock as they had just thrown away that toy that same day, another time I had gotten a word from God about someone close to me who hadn't accepted Jesus and that they had been praying to God secretly, I told them that and the look on their face was priceless as I had no idea they had been praying to God at all, they were shook 😄 this is only a handful of many a 100 times in just the last 12 months after 5 years of me being born again, there's so many more amazing things that have happened but you are beautiful and desired of God, he is a gentleman and will not force you to choose him or love him but he loves so so much, he's asking you if you will come, he will love you and cherish you everyday of your life, he will never abandon you, I beg you to take a chance and not reject God's love for you, he wants to heal you and you to enjoy a living relationship between you, God bless you so much, Jesus says to come to him for rest your weary soul he is humble and meek and tender and gentle, he loves you so much he knows everything about you, nothing about you is unimportant to him 😭❤❤ If you repent and call on his name you will be saved from hell and Jesus's wrath and judgement for all have sinned!! ❤ For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!! 💙🙌🏻 repent all have sinned and fallen short!!❤️‍🔥❤♥️ ❤️❤️🙌✝️

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​@@MilesDoyleSaltNutcase

[@eagzsez8925]

agree with everything Cenk said about the DNC - they are 100% to blame for this debacle.

[@annettewilcox5413]

they're to blame for Hillary debacle and RGB SCOTUS debacle as well

[@andrewjenkinson7052]

Mainstream Media is to blame for not criticising serial liar Trump. Wonder why that is?

[@Gorkzilla]

shut up you idiot lol

[@iamantiwar2003]

Stop writing in votes bro.

[@fred-62]

He endorsed him and used hia platform to get him votes

[@artemis6658]

Legitimately curious where does destiny get this idea that biden has been great for the nation.

[@johnpjones182]

Destiny probably made a ton of money in the last 4 years. He ain't hurtin'. (he also has a hot Swedish girlfriend. Grrr!)

[@user-lv8us9dp8d]

I thought she left him for that guy in the dr​ess?@@johnpjones182

[@MadSupra354]

@@johnpjones182 Boy are you out of date

[@NunyaBizness2.0]

There’s a subset of Americans who have made a ton of money under this POTUS. You don’t seem to be one of them. Density, the Morning Joe & The View hosts and that TikToc kid who acts like he wants to squeeze the piss from JB’s used adult diapers into his morning smoothie every day, are some of them!! Sadly most of us are barely scraping by since he took office and it’s only getting worse!!

[@joshskatesgoofy]

If you look at Biden’s domestic record, it’s quite easy to see that he has had a more positive impact than Obama. His accomplishments get overshadowed by his age and cognitive deterioration, his foreign policy (genocide Joe), artificial inflation caused by corporations, and the fear-mongering republicans have successfully delivered in regards to immigration and crime.

[@DENGODFREY]

Destiny is deplorable but he is the PERFECT representation of the utter awefulness of everything that is disgusting about the Democratic Party.

[@SteveM-gj2vy]

You mean like social security and the SSI checks they send you ?

[@DENGODFREY]

@SteveM-gj2vy yea, in 1935. Not much else since. What's more, Joe Biden, the DEMOCRAT, advocated to cut SS his entire Senate career. Pffft...

[@mikelaw5965]

​@@SteveM-gj2vyI can't stand Trumpers

[@zenri5363]

​@SteveM-gj2vy you mean the things that keep the country rolling that are slowly getting stripped away?

[@phillyrocks3847]

​@@SteveM-gj2vyNo like paying for illegals in 5 star hotels, forcing vaccines, staggering inflation, weaponizing the DOJ, pushing pedo rights, fiery but mostly peaceful protests, pushing us into WW3.....

[@wilson4045]

This “moderator” clearly has a position and it’s not supposed to be that easy to tell a moderators position. He was obviously on team Destiny

[@rebugcustomfx47]

This debate show me how dumb politics in America is. They are debating should a dementia 82 year old man run the country. 🤦‍♂️

[@kassygendron3022]

Dude....RIGHT?!?!?! It is beyond embarrassing.

[@xAJxo]

You mean 2 of them?

[@Pancajayna]

@@xAJxo only one has dementia... maybe you also have dementia to say something like that?

[@xAJxo]

@@Pancajayna bruh, your cope is embarrassing.

[@kriscasdorph7583]

The Democratic Party created this problem. The pool of other candidates is incredibly weak. Your best chance (Joe Manchin from WV) isn't even a Democrat anymore.

[@cjw4950]

Cenk Uygur has said dozens of times he'd vote for Joe Biden if he's against Donald Trump before the debate so what Destiny said is complete gaslighting and completely misleading to the audience. Huge loss of credibility with his first statement

[@orchoose]

What credibility? 😁

[@nathantripathy]

You don't know what gaslighting means.

[@ALocalClown]

I'm pretty sure it was more of a "just so we're all on the same page" thing, not sure why Cenk flew off the handle over it. Not every concession is bad.

[@nathantripathy]

@@ALocalClown Dying on the hill of existing in the same world is a waste of everyone's time. I know people love Cenk's toxic masculine energy, but fighting every single thing a person says just to fight is horrendously unproductive.

[@boringstuff1542]

@@nathantripathy Gaslighting means intentionally manipulating someone into questioning their own reality e.g. knowingly saying someone said something that they didn't actually say. Destiny knows Cenk is going to vote for the democratic nominee no matter what, but he is trying to convince the audience otherwise to get a leg up on the debate. He wants the audience to think there is some ulterior motive for Cenk to be against Biden. Destiny wants the audience to think Cenk is against Biden because he doesn't agree with his policies so he wants to sneak a progressive or someone more left leaning in to replace Biden. This is gaslighting. It's well known what Cenk's stance is. He has said multiple times that he would want any generic democrat over Biden. Cenk does not want Biden because he does not think Biden could beat Trump again.

[@DapperDan93981]

Destiny has a real knack for missing every possible point.

[@demolisher-ng1dh]

* hitting

[@DapperDan93981]

@@demolisher-ng1dh lol sure

[@GrandaComics]

The Democratic party is not a cult... Proceeds to say that it will vote for their candidate even if he is a vegetable....

[@c-spam9581]

At least a vegetable cannot suspend the constitution, something Trump has explicitly threatened to do.

[@GrandaComics]

@@c-spam9581 Hey, I think both parties are cults

[@Brian-vk1hm]

@@c-spam9581what’s it like to be retarded?

[@Ukiah.Spirit]

Bidens age really isn't the issue, it's his diminished mental capacity that's the issue. Many seniors, 80 years and older, are still sharp and witty.

[@bjwilliams]

Yes stop saying age😮, I'm 82, here on KZbin comments and cooking a large meal at the same time😅! Btw, I've been retired 20 years from teaching 5th grade. We need a new candidate!

[@KentGaugenmaier-gq3gf]

EXACTLY

[@Tracks2Jam2]

Check out any interview with Australia’s Paul Keating

[@GotoHere]

Yes and Biden’s not sharp or witty. Biden’s had dementia for over 4 years now.

[@adriansawyer3174]

The problem is we have elected 8 white men born in the 40's as president and they are all corporate serving stooges. Biden started the student debt crisis that he loves to say he fixed which he definitely didn't fix anything because he works for the predatory lenders!

[@barkerrhett]

Destiny’s opening remarks were disgraceful. Literally making up that two panelists would vote for trump. Guy is a clown.

[@JonSnuh]

A vote not for biden is a vote for trump. You leftist will kill this country with this attitude

[@KaitlynBurnellMath]

Yeah, that really bugged me. I think there's an argument for keeping Biden, but man, that was just a stupid blatant strawman. Obviously everyone on this panel would vote for anything over Trump. Surely they could have found someone with non-strawmen arguments in favor of the pro-Biden side.

[@JonSnuh]

@KaitlynBurnellMath what strawmans were made? I'm pretty sure cenk has said on his show that he won't vote for biden. Not voting for biden is a vote for trump.

[@deewd8290]

@barkerrhett Agree - completely disgraceful

[@jmh4ggg]

I see the average TYT viewer has issues with comprehension. His point was that Cenk wouldn't support Biden regaurdless of how he perfromed in the debate, and wants to put forth an untried candidate that has a higher failure possibility than Biden.

[@LAlonzo70]

Cenk is right... the DNC did not give RFK Jr a chance at challenging Biden

[@certifiedlb3451]

Why would they? 😂

[@jrodgers211]

Could you imagine having to listen to a debate between Biden and RFK Jr, would be like nails on a chalkboard, 2 dinosaurs that can’t talk.

[@LAlonzo70]

@@certifiedlb3451 ... I don't know, I thought they believed in a democratic process... my mistake

[@nullverba856]

Thank God! RFK Jr. is a desiccated husk of a human being.

[@randolphstephenson8026]

​@@jrodgers211You amagine 2 accused Rapist running against one another for President of The USA. TRUMP VS RFK

[@logancamden9728]

Wanting Biden to stay as the candidate and Wanting Trump to lose is an oxymoron

[@toph10167]

Polls showed Bernie Sanders would have destroyed Trump in every election since 2016. Also, winning the primary doesn't mean you're the best candidate. Far from it.

[@ryangerrity2851]

Exactly!

[@antmass3]

Bernie was a serious challenger to Biden in 2020, and then out of nowhere, Buttigieg drops out, effectively sending the non-Bernie votes to Joe. It was almost as if some kind of deal was made behind the scenes to convince Buttigieg to drop out. The establishment doesn't like Trump, but it REALLY doesn't like Bernie.

[@hochmeisterr]

Too bad he was destroyed by Biden, who then proceeds to destroy Trump as well.

[@ooulalah4333]

And for the record just about everyone who "wins" the debates loses the elections

[@scotts1912]

​@@ooulalah4333Yep. John Kerry, Mitt Romney and Hilary Clinton never became president.

[@paulaelson4044]

This Destiny guy does not understand voters

[@neilmoore7194]

He doesn't understand much.😅

[@JH-lb3kc]

He's a sociopath that shills for money. He has no morals, only self-preservation. A sociopath is literally biologically wired without empathy. They are master manipulators. You will find a lot of them on the internet.

[@georgeswaney829]

You are correct

[@leechowning2712]

All 5 missed one thing from the start, but Destiny was the worst... 80% of Dem registered voters say they will vote for Biden. But the majority of the country no longer are Dems, or even Republicans. They are 3rd party and indie voters. What does Biden offer THOSE voters, who seriously are not "anyone but Trump" because they know that the beurocratic state will not be threatened by Donald because he already tired, and they crushed him I am not voting Against anyone. Give me someone to vote for.

[@WizardofGargalondese]

how

[@swagy6012]

Destiny just comes off as a little weasel debate lord

[@CsGFadedFiasco]

Without a fair primary, how can we even judge who the best candidate would’ve been?? The DNC put us in this position

[@rorye-mail4920]

Primary is fair, Bernie loses them. He's not electable.

[@neckbone1584]

Seems to be a pattern

[@TonyMezaXD]

Destiny saying that the democratic establishment isn’t anti-democratic is ludicrous. He says progressive candidates aren’t popular, brother your neoliberal candidates run on progressive policies that they never enact.

[@Wate]

How are they Anti-democratic?

[@TonyMezaXD]

@@Wate the practices they engage in within their own party. The DNC with the cooperation of the liberal media CNN, MSNBC, ABC, ensured no other democratic candidate had any airtime essentially rigging the primary for Joe Biden. And yet they were able to get airtime on Fox News. They also squashed any primary debate from happening. Now we are in the situation we are now because of the Democratic party elite. I say this as a Democratic voter myself.

[@tailwaggindragon]

@@Wate you didn't notice how they manipulated the primaries? Florida and n. Carolina didn't even HAVE dem. primaries and they manipulated the media where Biden challengers barely got ANY media exposure at ALL. They totally, TOTALLY manipulated the system in Biden s favor...... THAT'S anti democracy. They didn't give we the people a CHANCE to even consider anybody else because they shoved Biden down our throats, TWICE now and silenced the opposition to Biden. Now they're trying to hide just how feeble Biden is and REFUSE to give the people another better candidate . That's not democracy...... that's INSTALLING an oligarch That's not democracy

[@drewbrees22]

​@@Wate Because they rig primaries to make progressive candidates lose the nomination. And they also smeared Bernie Sanders with attack ads calling him a commie etc

[@SteveM-gj2vy]

TYT IS A PURE CULT "ONLY WE TELL YOU THE TRUUTH" that's what's ludicrous. that anyone even listens to these people. #tytcult #CENKisJIMJONES #ChurchOfCenk More dangerous rhan Scientology --L Ron Uygur

[@kawaiiSariux]

Can Destiny talk without screaming? So annoying.

[@kirkbass2117]

watching destiny spiral is so sad, i mean i never really liked him, but it is embarasssing to be so confident in being such a complete dumbass

[@RobertFalconer1967]

They should call this guy Density, not Destiny. Cenk already said that if faced with no other choice, he will vote for Biden. He's literally said that over and over again.

[@TheJoshuamooney]

“You are my DENSITY!”-George McFly

[@MilesDoyleSalt]

Psalm 22 "My God My God why have you forsaken me?.... bulls of bashan surround me they pierce my hands and feet.... they cast lots for my garments... "“He trusts in the Lord,” they say, “let the Lord rescue him.(R) Let him deliver him,(S) since he delights(T) in him.” "I am poured out like water" etc like with other passages in the psalms, genesis, (including theophany appearances in the torah) Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Proverbs etc are considered messianic in rabbinic Judaism as the suffering servant messiah Ben Joseph, and to Christianity as Yeshua, Jesus bless you ❤ Edit: To expand on this is of course Isaiah 53 where you have the servant being crushed by God as an offering for sin for others, who dies and sees life and his seed afterwards, who dies with thieves and in a rich man's tomb, and who was despised and rejected, so why there is a common view of two messiahs, Ben yosef and Ben David, one messiah as the suffering servant and another as the conqueror who sets up the kingdom. Isaiah 52 the messiah draws Israel back to himself. Some fun and sad things are like people would say Jesus didn't exist despite Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Lucian etc and the apostles writings and the successors/church fathers of the apostles/bishops writings and josephus, because "Nazareth doesn't exist" until of course Nazareth was discovered, or another one, "there was no synagogue in capnernaum" until we found it, or Thomas Payne in age of reason "Bible is false because there were no kings during Jesus's time" until we found King Herod Agrippa's coins, or "Jesus wasn't buried in a tomb because crucifixion victims weren't buried in tombs" until we found crucifixion victims with the nails still in tombs in tombs. More cool things, are Jesus sweating blood in the garden of Gethsemane, this is a real phenomenon called Hematidrosis where death row inmates sweat blood, also another when Jesus is pierced and water and blood come out this actually happens when water builds around the lungs, it confused some early church fathers on the spiritual meaning, but it's a real phenomenon that occurs as well. Many rabbis into gematria etc say there is a curse upon reading Daniel 9 because it says Messiah The Prince must come and bring in eternal righteousness before the destruction of Solomon's temple, no wonder they say that as then if Messiah didn't come before 70 a.d. there is no messiah, those who have divided messiah into two were confused if the messiah would come riding on a donkey or horse, so the two messiahs, as opposed to the jews who believe in Jesus and himself, who state himself and two arrivals. Of course this is why Islam falls quickly because while they call Jesus messiah they don't understand what it means, and Muhammad of course denied the historical fact of Jesus dying by crucifixion (Which besides tacitus mentioning pontius pilate doing it to him, we even have an inscription that was uncovered oh pilate and dates lining up with his time being the procurator/prefect over Jerusalem) besides Muhammad being the total opposite of Jesus, Muhammad had sex with his child bride Aisha who was nine, he beheaded and crucified people, said not to trust jews and Christians, he had Ethiopian slaves and called them raisin heads, he called jews monkeys and rats, he slaughtered villages and the wives of families he killed said you can take them and have sex with them, he got caught having sex with his slave by Aisha and said he would not do it anymore then conveniently "Allah" comes and says it's fine and he can, he's a textbook false prophet, with of course takiyah being they will lie to you about what I said above, Islam is meant to subjugate the world I'd into belief by force, if you don't convert you must pay a tax, if you don't pay it you die. Allah has no love for unbelievers unlike Jesus who loves his enemies and we are meant to love all even to death, I'd write more but youtube doesn't like long messages, with eastern thought eternal universe doesn't fit the mold because and infinite amount of successive events becoming then impossible to have the present, we would never reach today because we would always have a yesterday or event before this moment, an immaterial, spaceless, timeless, mind (agency) bringing space-time into reality, is the best explanation for why anything exists including someone as amazing and as lovely as yourself 😊 So the disciples who say "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." And "13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." Since the witnesses knew whether or not they were lying and knew what it would mean to continue to say he did in fact rise and is the Messiah and God in the flesh then yes I believe them as The Messiah had to come during that time, a mind/agency creating the universe is the best cause for reality, Jesus is the most moral, truthful and charismatic and loving and honest person there is, and the most important and influential, (Buddha said he was still searching for truth, Jesus say, "I am the truth, the way and the life") Jesus gives us love and salvation as a gift without earned merit by us, not working our way to the truth or God or eternal destiny through every other religious and spiritual framework, he loves you and cares so much for you before he created you and wants a living relationship with you here and now not just after you die 😊 There's a million other things to cover that I want to say but this is probably a good stopping point but Jesis wants to remove the shadow in your life and Jesus wants you as you are right now he wants your heart and to live in you and you to know his love personally 😊 I had people prophesy over me very specific things nobody else knew about my past, things I was thinking or experienced even just the day before, Jesus healed me of sleep paralysis I had for years, depression and loneliness, I had a dream of a woman named Heather and a voice telling me their dad had died, a couple days later i meet them and they tell me about how they had just lost their dad that week, I feel God telling me to sit down and close my eyes and I see an outline of someone going to the bathroom very bizarre, then shortly after someone out of the blue asking me to pray for them as they are having trouble going to the bathroom, another was I ask Jesus alone "are you my buddy?" A couple hours later someone contacts me and they say "Yes Jesus is saying yes he is your buddy" another time was I obsessing a little over this blue suit and someone prophecies "I see you in this blue suit" etc, another time I was testing this whole thing and I'm about to be prophecied over and I have my Google notes out I had tried writing out a little story and it was about a fire and forest being burnt down and I ask God to confirm if he wants me to write this and sort of as a test because everything had been scary accurate and the person right after says "God wants you to be his little stick lit ablaze with his love, it may not seem like much but one small flame can burn down a whole forest" 😂 another one was I had this. Surreal vision looking at stars, shortly after someone messages me saying Jesus is looking at a telescope with you saying to you "everything I have is yours even the stars" another one I was in the bathroom asking God for a message for my friend Moses in Nigeria and as I'm leaving the bathroom i freeze in place and go into this bizarre trance like Peter in the book of acts and I see my friend Moses as a child playing with a toy firetruck and Jesus sitting next to him with love, I quickly tell them and they are in shock as they had just thrown away that toy that same day, another time I had gotten a word from God about someone close to me who hadn't accepted Jesus and that they had been praying to God secretly, I told them that and the look on their face was priceless as I had no idea they had been praying to God at all, they were shook 😄 this is only a handful of many a 100 times in just the last 12 months after 5 years of me being born again, there's so many more amazing things that have happened but you are beautiful and desired of God, he is a gentleman and will not force you to choose him or love him but he loves so so much, he's asking you if you will come, he will love you and cherish you everyday of your life, he will never abandon you, I beg you to take a chance and not reject God's love for you, he wants to heal you and you to enjoy a living relationship between you, God bless you so much, Jesus says to come to him for rest your weary soul he is humble and meek and tender and gentle, he loves you so much he knows everything about you, nothing about you is unimportant to him 😭❤❤ If you repent and call on his name you will be saved from hell and Jesus's wrath and judgement for all have sinned!! ❤ For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!! 💙🙌🏻 repent all have sinned and fallen short!!❤️‍🔥❤♥️ ❤️🙌✝️

[@MilesDoyleSalt]

​@TheJoshuamooney Psalm 22 "My God My God why have you forsaken me?.... bulls of bashan surround me they pierce my hands and feet.... they cast lots for my garments... "“He trusts in the Lord,” they say, “let the Lord rescue him.(R) Let him deliver him,(S) since he delights(T) in him.” "I am poured out like water" etc like with other passages in the psalms, genesis, (including theophany appearances in the torah) Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Proverbs etc are considered messianic in rabbinic Judaism as the suffering servant messiah Ben Joseph, and to Christianity as Yeshua, Jesus bless you ❤ Edit: To expand on this is of course Isaiah 53 where you have the servant being crushed by God as an offering for sin for others, who dies and sees life and his seed afterwards, who dies with thieves and in a rich man's tomb, and who was despised and rejected, so why there is a common view of two messiahs, Ben yosef and Ben David, one messiah as the suffering servant and another as the conqueror who sets up the kingdom. Isaiah 52 the messiah draws Israel back to himself. Some fun and sad things are like people would say Jesus didn't exist despite Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Lucian etc and the apostles writings and the successors/church fathers of the apostles/bishops writings and josephus, because "Nazareth doesn't exist" until of course Nazareth was discovered, or another one, "there was no synagogue in capnernaum" until we found it, or Thomas Payne in age of reason "Bible is false because there were no kings during Jesus's time" until we found King Herod Agrippa's coins, or "Jesus wasn't buried in a tomb because crucifixion victims weren't buried in tombs" until we found crucifixion victims with the nails still in tombs in tombs. More cool things, are Jesus sweating blood in the garden of Gethsemane, this is a real phenomenon called Hematidrosis where death row inmates sweat blood, also another when Jesus is pierced and water and blood come out this actually happens when water builds around the lungs, it confused some early church fathers on the spiritual meaning, but it's a real phenomenon that occurs as well. Many rabbis into gematria etc say there is a curse upon reading Daniel 9 because it says Messiah The Prince must come and bring in eternal righteousness before the destruction of Solomon's temple, no wonder they say that as then if Messiah didn't come before 70 a.d. there is no messiah, those who have divided messiah into two were confused if the messiah would come riding on a donkey or horse, so the two messiahs, as opposed to the jews who believe in Jesus and himself, who state himself and two arrivals. Of course this is why Islam falls quickly because while they call Jesus messiah they don't understand what it means, and Muhammad of course denied the historical fact of Jesus dying by crucifixion (Which besides tacitus mentioning pontius pilate doing it to him, we even have an inscription that was uncovered oh pilate and dates lining up with his time being the procurator/prefect over Jerusalem) besides Muhammad being the total opposite of Jesus, Muhammad had sex with his child bride Aisha who was nine, he beheaded and crucified people, said not to trust jews and Christians, he had Ethiopian slaves and called them raisin heads, he called jews monkeys and rats, he slaughtered villages and the wives of families he killed said you can take them and have sex with them, he got caught having sex with his slave by Aisha and said he would not do it anymore then conveniently "Allah" comes and says it's fine and he can, he's a textbook false prophet, with of course takiyah being they will lie to you about what I said above, Islam is meant to subjugate the world I'd into belief by force, if you don't convert you must pay a tax, if you don't pay it you die. Allah has no love for unbelievers unlike Jesus who loves his enemies and we are meant to love all even to death, I'd write more but youtube doesn't like long messages, with eastern thought eternal universe doesn't fit the mold because and infinite amount of successive events becoming then impossible to have the present, we would never reach today because we would always have a yesterday or event before this moment, an immaterial, spaceless, timeless, mind (agency) bringing space-time into reality, is the best explanation for why anything exists including someone as amazing and as lovely as yourself 😊 So the disciples who say "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." And "13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." Since the witnesses knew whether or not they were lying and knew what it would mean to continue to say he did in fact rise and is the Messiah and God in the flesh then yes I believe them as The Messiah had to come during that time, a mind/agency creating the universe is the best cause for reality, Jesus is the most moral, truthful and charismatic and loving and honest person there is, and the most important and influential, (Buddha said he was still searching for truth, Jesus say, "I am the truth, the way and the life") Jesus gives us love and salvation as a gift without earned merit by us, not working our way to the truth or God or eternal destiny through every other religious and spiritual framework, he loves you and cares so much for you before he created you and wants a living relationship with you here and now not just after you die 😊 There's a million other things to cover that I want to say but this is probably a good stopping point but Jesis wants to remove the shadow in your life and Jesus wants you as you are right now he wants your heart and to live in you and you to know his love personally 😊 I had people prophesy over me very specific things nobody else knew about my past, things I was thinking or experienced even just the day before, Jesus healed me of sleep paralysis I had for years, depression and loneliness, I had a dream of a woman named Heather and a voice telling me their dad had died, a couple days later i meet them and they tell me about how they had just lost their dad that week, I feel God telling me to sit down and close my eyes and I see an outline of someone going to the bathroom very bizarre, then shortly after someone out of the blue asking me to pray for them as they are having trouble going to the bathroom, another was I ask Jesus alone "are you my buddy?" A couple hours later someone contacts me and they say "Yes Jesus is saying yes he is your buddy" another time was I obsessing a little over this blue suit and someone prophecies "I see you in this blue suit" etc, another time I was testing this whole thing and I'm about to be prophecied over and I have my Google notes out I had tried writing out a little story and it was about a fire and forest being burnt down and I ask God to confirm if he wants me to write this and sort of as a test because everything had been scary accurate and the person right after says "God wants you to be his little stick lit ablaze with his love, it may not seem like much but one small flame can burn down a whole forest" 😂 another one was I had this. Surreal vision looking at stars, shortly after someone messages me saying Jesus is looking at a telescope with you saying to you "everything I have is yours even the stars" another one I was in the bathroom asking God for a message for my friend Moses in Nigeria and as I'm leaving the bathroom i freeze in place and go into this bizarre trance like Peter in the book of acts and I see my friend Moses as a child playing with a toy firetruck and Jesus sitting next to him with love, I quickly tell them and they are in shock as they had just thrown away that toy that same day, another time I had gotten a word from God about someone close to me who hadn't accepted Jesus and that they had been praying to God secretly, I told them that and the look on their face was priceless as I had no idea they had been praying to God at all, they were shook 😄 this is only a handful of many a 100 times in just the last 12 months after 5 years of me being born again, there's so many more amazing things that have happened but you are beautiful and desired of God, he is a gentleman and will not force you to choose him or love him but he loves so so much, he's asking you if you will come, he will love you and cherish you everyday of your life, he will never abandon you, I beg you to take a chance and not reject God's love for you, he wants to heal you and you to enjoy a living relationship between you, God bless you so much, Jesus says to come to him for rest your weary soul he is humble and meek and tender and gentle, he loves you so much he knows everything about you, nothing about you is unimportant to him 😭❤❤ If you repent and call on his name you will be saved from hell and Jesus's wrath and judgement for all have sinned!! ❤ For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!! 💙🙌🏻 repent all have sinned and fallen short!!❤️‍🔥❤♥️ ❤️🙌✝️

[@influencerpodcasts]

​@@MilesDoyleSaltStop spamming jackass

[@Carlotta_Lee_Ray]

Destiny’s arguments were weak and fear-based.

[@ontherunjg]

Those guest were terrible. A new low for TYTs

[@jesse_cole]

Destiny is weak and fear based.

[@thedebatemechannel4746]

​@jesse_co You think that he is fair-based but you agree with a guy who benefits if Trump wins? Progressive media needs Donald Trump to win because that's going to be excellent content for them and therefore they're going to make a ton of money. You listening to people who have a conflict of interest with you. You're the one that's going to suffer from whatever Trump does not these millionaire content creators that can live in anywhere in the country They can even make their videos in another country if they wanted to. The stakes are high for us not for them. I feel like Cenk. If you ask me my opinion on where my instincts are they are with what he's saying however I don't make decisions based on my feelings I make my decision based on facts and logic. There is no data that aligns with what this guy saying. The data says that every alternative does worse than Joe Biden except for camela Harris but she only does better by one point. So getting rid of him to replace him with somebody who trails him is lunacy

[@jesse_cole]

@thedebatemechannel4746 1. I said "fear based," not "fair-based." 2. EVERY media outlet benefits from a Trump win, and most of them are pushing Biden. I agree with Cenk on the substance. Biden has lost his ability to win. Your long-winded argument didn't hold up, sorry.

[@donzo3j]

Let me make a baseless statement... and have mindless trolls like it.

[@Kalandrian]

vote blue no matter who is the mantra of the democrats and exactly why they should change candidates because democrats are going to vote for whomever is the candidate, but you might be able to get some of the people back you've already lost by changing horses.

[@NunyaBizness2.0]

Sadly the money raised for JB can’t be used by anyone else except Kamala. It would be very hard to raise the money for a full and successful campaign now.

[@Kalandrian]

@@NunyaBizness2.0 did you hear that on corporate media, because that money could be donated to a super PAC and then everyone who donated the maximum to Joe Biden could now donate the maximum to the new candidate... Not that it will happen the Democrats are already finding excuses on how they will lose and blame it on progressives.

[@MakeItTooBigToRig]

I love the USA too much to pass up on the opportunity to elect Trump.

[@BackWhereYouStarted]

it's crazy how people say we need to elect Biden to save democracy and then actively discourage a democratic process to choose him

[@kassygendron3022]

Right? It is absolute INSANITY!!!! Imagine if the Republicans did this. They would NEVER STOP CRYING. EVER.

[@kassygendron3022]

(The dems would never stop crying)

[@Zurph-qs1te]

the primary already happened, stop being a schizo

[@BackWhereYouStarted]

@@Zurph-qs1te which primary? the one where party establishment bullied and guilted and forced everyone out who tried to run against Biden? if that happened in some wartorn third world nation we'd be in shaking our fingers at it and the poli-sci majors would have a few names for what that is besides democracy

[@breelee4362]

​@Zurph-qs1te there was no primary. If there had been, Biden would not be the candidate.

[@AmandaRenzi-wg1wu]

Cenk, these people don't want to face reality. They want to hang their hats on Conventional Wisdom. You're on point. They aren't.

[@rezrunnercl]

💯 agreed!

[@nathantripathy]

Good point. Statistically speaking, a brokered convention has a 0% history of resulting in a winning candidate.

[@jaminjones8784]

​@@nathantripathy And 100% of incumbent presidents with under 40% approval in the months preceding election day lost. Badly. I'll take a brokered convention over an incoherent genocide-sponsoring dementia patient any day.

[@anakinskycopper373]

Yep

[@CantonBn]

Really? So we are setting precedent that despite our party rules, if someone wins virtually all the delegates in primary election, that if another person polls any amount better then them in the period before the convection that the party big shots and megadonors get to replace the guy who won the primary ELECTION using some invented process that cancels the primary vote?!?!

[@Dscoetc]

Both sides have potential to fall into a hivemind. Destiny just proved it. Cenk seems to be the leading voice of reason here.

[@mojojojo1529]

OK, I have changed my mind about Destiny. Earlier I though he was just ignorant on political topics, but now I think he is in fact delusional.

[@KJB717]

Wow Cenk is the only sensible person here. Put anyone up besides Biden.

[@Rimmy45]

Cenk tried to run against him and lost, so did Marianne, twice, and lost twice

[@Pebus]

....RFK... *cough cough*

[@randolphstephenson8026]

A moron beat Chenk for President

[@joshskatesgoofy]

@@Rimmy45 he literally explains within this debate that his intention for running was to raise awareness on how unelectable Biden was with the hopes of a more electable candidate tossing their hat in the ring.

[@TheNiggyStardust]

Cenk shows strength, the others are passive. This is the difference. Democratic Party never shows strength. Just my thought.

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

exactly. I would have voted for Cenk in every election if I could, just because he's a fighter.

[@dannystillschooling7768]

​@@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584 He's also a truth teller in a world full of liars.

[@gaborbazso7812]

But Cenk also shows ignorance, arrogance, bigotry and stupidity. Most people catch up on that solely by his extremist rhetoric, which is show yourself as angry, emotional, unable to think straight, unable to see any nuance or compromise and belittling/labeling anyone he dislikes.

[@rezrunnercl]

💯 exactly!

[@jaz4742]

Because liberals are the weakest and most naive humans. They know literally nothing about domestic or foreign policy. The right and left are the only ones who arent cowards. :/

[@tjnucnuc]

Destiny admits to being a twacked out addy user right? If not he should because it’s incredibly obvious. No one can be THAT delusional and NOT be high.

[@TT-rg6yc]

Did Destiny call having a convention, undemocratic? Wtf?

[@Ukiah.Spirit]

Destiny called Cenk a liar because tiny boy got his little ass beat down by Cenk and he's butt-hurt. What a baby. I don't agree with any one person on every issue (it's impossible if not unhealthy) and that includes the individuals of TYT, Secular Talk, Breaking Points etc., however, I do find these people at least genuine in their reasoned arguments. This "Destiny" guy, I have a problem with and find him arrogant to the core.

[@marvsmusings]

Cenk is right. Biden is not impressing the normies and they aren’t getting out to vote for him.

[@Moriningland]

I don’t get it. One side of the party says “I will vote for a steam dog turd over trump” and the other says “I’m not satisfied with Biden, let’s find someone else”. So why not favorite the second side since the first doesn’t care who the candidate is and will vote for anyone.

[@rampagerob3387]

Brianna Wu is clueless but to her credit, she acknowledges that and is looking for answers. Joe Walsh is opened minded and seems to be coming around. And Destiny is simply a ridged contrarian.

[@Jmriccitelli]

Fun fact…..Destiny is a radical statist corporate democrat who defends multinational conglomerates.

[@mgm8822]

And a DNC fanboy.

[@bigbilly4532]

hes more of a knee jerk defender of institutional norms and loves to instinctually argue against the current momentum

[@karllaur3866]

So, he's like a normal functioning member of the society?

[@Jmriccitelli]

@@karllaur3866 I guess If you think crony capitalism is normal. Personally I’m against a rigged economy, but ok …

[@redflag4781]

​@karllaur3866 A patently broken society.

[@chris93122]

I would watch so much footage of Cenk yelling at Destiny

[@zuzanazuscinova5209]

😂

[@marvsmusings]

Destiny’s point about Hillary ignores the fact that we knew Hillary was in trouble in the swing states and she ignored those polls and did nothing to help herself in those states even her husband argued with her team about it.

[@karen-qm7og]

Not to mention that the DNC is what got us into this mess in the first place. The DNC should have run Biden in 2016 instead of Hillary Clinton. Her hubris, her sense of self-entitlement, "It's My Turn!" cannot be overstated. Then there's the DNC's pied-piper strategy to elevate Trump as the Republican candidate in the primaries, which backfired spectacularly.

[@PeacefulPariah]

NOBODY was talking about that prior to the election, including you.

[@youandme9569]

@@PeacefulPariah Michael Moore was certainly ringing the alarm bells when Hillary failed to campaign once in Michigan if care to know.

[@mojojojo1529]

"Who's the alternative then?" anyone who's brain is working, Destiny, that's who.

[@zuzanazuscinova5209]

Except Kamala

[@qcrew2938]

The guy who said he'd vote for a 150 year old over Trump should quit politics. Worst case of TDS I've ever seen

[@certifiedlb3451]

Age alone is enough to make you completely switch sides and support Trump? Tell me you’re unprincipled and don’t know anything about politics without telling me

[@phillyrocks3847]

​@@certifiedlb3451Unprincipled? You voted for a dude that showered with a 12 yr old.

[@vb_blah]

He said he would vote for Biden even if he was over a 100 years old, not Trump. He is the never Trump guy.

[@ericmaxwell735]

These are also the same people that won't even vote and stand behind Kamala Harris their number two in line

[@FactsMatter999]

Be accurate please. It’s not 150 yo. It’s 151 yo 🤷

[@oldskool90s]

Why weren’t we having this debate ONE YEAR AGO? Honestly, instead of hiding our heads in the sand and shouting down those pointing out Biden’s mental decline. We could’ve had an actual primary….. You all are underestimating how pissed regular Americans/Democrats are that the anointing happened a full year ago for fear of revealing Biden’s massive weakness. As of right now, he’s all we got.

[@karen-qm7og]

We can do better. "All we got" isn't going to beat Trump. The whole world has now seen the shell of a man that Biden has become.

[@mrbadguysan]

The DNC didn’t want to have this conversation; so they didn’t.

[@ironassbrown]

In reality it all comes down to the Biden campaign, no one is going to make him step down. If he did then I do think we could get a stronger candidate in place, which is pretty much anyone who can stay on point and make a persuasive argument at this point.

[@markdavis7397]

We were having this debate a year ago. Many, many, many of us said he should drop out then. But Joe is apparently not much different from Trump, in that both care more about grabbing power than they care about our country. It's a pity because Joe had the opportunity to go out with a proud legacy. As a President, he did a fine job. But now he will go down in history as the guy whose insatiable ego helped end the USA.

[@christopherwhull]

The party of yelling at sky, apparently is getting their rocks off by putting a good number of the politically uninvolved through a rollercoaster ride that did not need to happen.

[@Brant_Stanford]

Listening to Biden's interview was the equivalent of listening to a friend that's clearly hammered, and them trying to convince you that they're not drunk.

[@FactsMatter999]

More like a friend that is trying to drive while on that state and won’t listen to you when you tell him he’s crazy if he thinks he can drive 🤷

[@garnet7460]

You guys are all sick, wow. Why don’t you debate policy instead of just calling Trump a psychopath?

[@elveon939]

I disagree on a lot of things with Cenk but he’s the only one who makes sense in this debate.

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

Destiny says it not undemocratic to cancel a primary election. Destiny clearly does not know the definition of "democracy".

[@patrickmitchell4134]

what do you expect from a guy whose name is Destiny…..😂

[@Zurph-qs1te]

@@patrickmitchell4134 eheheh his name is destiny, you got him xDDDD

[@johnmartin5520]

Yes it is

[@JJ-et7il]

​@scottinterestsall this dude knows how to do is talk a lot of premium bullshit real fast. He's a fraud.

[@nathantripathy]

Cenk is supportive of party insiders picking the nominee. We don't seem to care about that.

[@itsmelanieking]

Cenk was the only person worth listening to. I’m sorry but he won this.

[@TrevJ91]

Facts

[@petethundabox5067]

Nonsense.

[@bigbilly4532]

he took the bait on arguing about 2016 too many times which helps people dismiss him.

[@timeames2509]

​@@bigbilly4532Really, then why is CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC saying same thing?

[@groundrunner752]

Yeah it's really easy to win when you do nothing but attack and teardown strawmen...

[@RajeshJustaguy]

Just someone outside watching in... have been following US politics for a while.. and i agree I prefer dems to Trump but I want to say that you have to give it to Trump that after all the attacks on him, he is still standing... Which is pretty amazing. I think thats the part that alot of layman people admire about him... and thats probably the reason why he might win more votes

[@mojojojo1529]

I've seen this Destiny guy in a couple of debates now and he has proven over and over again that he is quite ignorant when it comes to politics. Why is he getting invited to these talks?

[@irisschneider4058]

Destiny hasn’t come to terms yet with reality.

[@mitchlamping530]

Destiny is still in denial about Biden cognitive health you want to add 4 more years onto Bidens current situation hate to break it to you destiny but he doesn’t have another 4 years left

[@Buluga06]

In that case Kamala Harris would take over which would be the next logical candidate if biden stops

[@nickhill2854]

Anyone who says we need to change the criticism off of Biden to Trump isn't it Biden's job to get us to vote for policies that he's championing it's on Biden to earn our votes but he cannot finish a sentence you don't earn someone's vote by saying oh but the other guy we all know how horrible Trump is what can Biden galvanized us to vote for him because there's a single policy he's good on cuz if there is he cannot make that point which is the problem

[@Paul.]

Destiny seems like a sulky teen

[@GenXersJustWalkItOff]

Destiny was so uncivil… he received much more kindness and patience from Cenk than he deserved… He has the opportunities he has because of the pioneering work of Cenk and TYT. I really hope not to see him again.

[@whocares9033]

Agreed. He was a little twat, but Cenk shut him down hard, especially at the end when he brought up Lyndon B. Johnson 🤣🤣🤣 Look at him through the rest of that. He was totally hanging his hat on that last straw-man argument thinking he had Cenk trapped somehow 🤣🤣🤣

[@Egyptianfruitbat]

Indeed

[@saphinam.2866]

I like how that clown said they didn't need Progressives and was happy they were unpopular in the Democratic Party, yet expects these idiots to bend the knee. Sadly, Cenk let that shit slide, which to me is asinine.

[@Tabarnacification]

He was gaslighting anybody not supporting Joe Biden.

[@pmac206]

I know when Cenk makes you look like a bad . You got problems. Destiny is basically just an establishment tool.

[@hicklebear2339]

34:00 Destiny has literally no idea what he is talking about. Jamaal Bowman, Nina Turner being just two examples where Democrats chose to support candidates other an the democratic incumbent and primaried their own seats.

[@kovrovs]

Glorious sight. Especially Walsh's overflowing with insanity.

[@jesse_cole]

I LOVE that at 58:15 Cenk finally breaks Destiny. Up to that point, Destiny was trying to do that annoying thing where he pretends he's all "calm and emotionless," just some "unrattleable, detached truth lord," lol. Then Cenk hits him with an elbow from the sky, and Destiny starts flapping around and squeaking like a chipmunk. He even starts doing the angry "mocking voices" that Cenk was doing in the first half. He HATES being exposed.

[@josephsiragusa]

Yes, even after watching this I still don't know who this destiny guy is, but he's a moron 😂

[@halwasserman7905]

No disrespect intended but Destiny always seems to be wrong. On the other hand Cenk put on a master's class. Well done sir!

[@dangelini1137]

Doesn't seem IS wrong lol. Guy is a soiboy cu

[@chad9049]

LMAO. Cenk's lied about every police shooting he's covered and every other subject.

[@jmaxwell5314]

Destiny deserves disrespect…

[@unc0mm0n2]

Destiny is a bit of a moron.

[@israfel070]

destiny is a braindead msnbc cuck

[@nicole62498]

Democrats looking down their noses at the average American is a huge reason Trump won in the first place and that snobbery is continuing to make them unpopular.

[@jantu8ify]

Destiny should look at the latest poll numbers on Biden...

[@eagzsez8925]

No - the best interest should NEVER be for the party - it should be for the country.

[@rezrunnercl]

Yes! Yes! Yes! 💯 agreed.

[@breelee4362]

Thats not how it works anymore. Vote 3rd party. Vote rfk jr!

[@eagzsez8925]

@@breelee4362 no.

[@rezrunnercl]

@@breelee4362 RFK? NOOOOOO JUST SAY NO!

[@breelee4362]

@@eagzsez8925 keep voting for the uniparty bc that's been working out so great for everyone. SMH.

[@jad1079]

Joe Walsh: "If Biden is in a coma, I'll vote for him over Trump." That's some strong Trump hatred. 😂

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

ya, people would like to stay alive. imagine that. Trump in office will easily spell 10 million people dying within 6 years in the USA. Trump said he would deport 15 million people, and thus collapse our entire economy overnight. ya, people hate trump because that's the right thing to do.

[@fred-62]

Trump broke him

[@notsoeloquent]

As it should be. If you vote for Trump, you are legitimately insane.

[@davidhand9721]

The only way I'll vote for Trump is if he is in a coma.

[@dadondotta9757]

But why, that only proves TDS to the ¹⁰th power for that person.... I can see somebody saying I'll choose Biden even though Biden is a vegetable on life support not even breathing on his own but I'm still voting for Biden and lose by a landslide resembling Reagan's landslide in 1984😂😅 I agree with whoever Biden will lose I'ma go farther and say no democrat this election cycle can beat Trump, democrats put their self in the position they're in. As a matter of fact democrats need to use some cheap fakes, Truthfully the only way to beat Trump is to have an anonymous person wearing a Joe Biden hyper realistic face mask on so none of Biden's flaws and mishaps occur.

[@jenniferlangston6452]

This destiny guy is the Ben Shapiro of corporate democrats. I find his tone really annoying. Does he think if he speaks fast that people won’t be able to process what he’s saying? He was just throwing random things out there like…. Oh they were not going to vote for Biden anyway. He’s just making that up! He didn’t pick me up as a viewer! Terrible

[@karen-qm7og]

Destiny is insufferable. Whatever drug he's on, he really needs to get off it. His shtick in every debate is to memorize some lobby's talking points and spew them out uncritically at every turn instead of debating the given point.

[@ptrschick]

OMG, this Destiny person… I’m thinking he’s a corporate shill…

[@TestChannelWow-bh7ys]

destiny needs to cool it with the meth, he’s impossible to understand

[@TestChannelWow-bh7ys]

@James-8841 what does israel have to do with any of this? This is a video about replace joe biden. I hope your handlers don’t deposit funds into your account for this one

[@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn]

@James-8841 Tiny hat detected. Your grip on America is slipping. Hollywood is a joke, young people aren't religious anymore and the banking system is relying on a dollar that is at the end of it's reign as the worlds reserve currency. You lot are done.

[@SFRZRD]

@James-8841 nah dude, destiny keeps going onto debates (the Peterson one is a prime example) absolutely jacked up on some sort of stimulant. It’s embarrassing.

[@FieldAndForum]

Hes jacked up on adderall

[@jmh4ggg]

​@@SFRZRDFor years he didn't take any medication for his ADHD, and people accused him of taking Adderall. Now he's taking Adderall for his ADHD and people accuse him of taking adderall. He's been the same person for years, some people just talk fast and are passionate, like Ben Shapiro.

[@theshelflifeboardgamelonge2873]

The lesbian on the bottom needs to mute her mic when she walks around her house

[@randilowery9669]

Just because you don’t support Biden does NOT mean you are somehow not interested in the wellbeing of the Democratic Party/Left Wing/Progressive interests for the country!!!

[@bmacaz]

Destiny is detached from reality, should not be taken seriously whatsoever

[@carefulilickwindows6881]

Biden is sadly the best candidate bc he has the most popular name, let's be honest. Idk why Destiny AND Cenk fail to mention this. The strongest candidate outside of Biden in such short notice is Newsome... Newsome wouldn't stand a chance

[@BizznessBox]

Destiny is also on Adderall.

[@capoman1]

Idk if Destiny thinks talking 100mph will alow him to make more points. But to me it makes him annoying and impossible to listen to.

[@ontherunjg]

I would fast forward when he started talking because I could not even listen to him he spoke so fast.

[@dangelini1137]

The guy is a cu

[@MiracleSeeker]

The Democratic version of Ben Shapiro.

[@petethundabox5067]

Well, play it on 75% speed, because he makes some good points. Who else is Cenk proposing, Bernie? He never polled higher than 30% and many of those became Trump cultists. TYT are just gonna hand Trump another victory.

[@marianaj9]

You can always spot a high school forensics alum by how fast they argue.

[@enadboa3943]

Im not a trump fan by any means but this whole panel is basically the exact argument that TDS exists 20 mins in and I absolutely cannot believe that Cenk is the most sane one here. Edit: finished listening and Cenk is still somehow the only one not living in delusion. Destiny literally said Bidens campaign shouldnt be based on facts- like what?? He literally just wants a blue Trump and its so ironic and disgusting

[@abdullak7023]

Why is Destiny’s voice so high-pitched? Why is this emotional man child given a platform to comment on politics ?

[@colababe]

Destiny just makes broad unsubstantiated statements and then he gives away that support of the party is more important than representing voters.

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

he gets paid by the trump campaign, what did you expect?

[@xycap8351]

Destiny sounds like my teenage niece who thinks she knows everything arguing with her daddy...... He even still lives in mommys basement😂 ... He "debates", (not to arrive at the truth ), but to at least pose as having not lost..... by derailing it.......not unlike like the insufferable, overrated bad faith besserwisser- "debaters" Vaush, Hasan, Pakman or Seder..

[@samurai15401]

​​@@xycap8351mega cope and cringe...😬 If you truly believe what you said why don't you source some evidence for your claims bro ? Nobody is falling for this weird characterization of someone without seeing actual laid out examples of such conduct.

[@735337707]

Now can you actually give some examples of "unsubstantiated statements" he apparently made?

[@bobgolden939]

Destiny thinks Biden is going to remember 4 slogans? Omg. Just, omg.

[@dannystillschooling7768]

The fact that he's making that argument is a perfect reason why you should never run a candidate like that. That specific argument works against Biden. He's just too stupid to see it.🙄

[@TequilaMockingBird91]

Biden has proven to be able to remember twice that amount. Jokes on you.

[@penguinnh]

@@dannystillschooling7768 The issue is that Biden had probably tried to remember lots of facts and figures to lots of questions and statements that were never asked. Anyone would get confused over trying to come up with the right one. How many facts and figures do you think Trump remembered? None. He did not even answer the question most of the time. Trump just gave the same (wrong) talking points he always gave about topics unrelated to the question. ..but he gave them fast and forcefully. Deflection. Heck, I did not prep for the debate and I knew how much Bullsh*t Trump was spewing, and I am almost 74!

[@EldritchBladesgaming]

Ehhh i mean, he can. The whole Trump lied was started by Biden. And media ran with it.

[@jk-474]

One of them includes “We beat Medicare” 🤣🤣

[@matthewmoses5324]

Destiny, a grown man who locks himself in seclusion all day as he entertains an audience of minors by playing video games, should have no platform for political commentary

[@lavawingsplays1627]

Joe HAS to go. Every argument I hear from anyone I know is that they cannot vote for Joe because of his mental decline.

[@user-fv5ct7yc1w]

I’m now convinced that Destiny has no idea what he’s talking about.

[@Placid_Falcon]

Destiny is more logical than you'll ever be. No one is saying Biden is the ideal candidate, but he can always be replaced AFTER the election. If he gets replaced now, it's extremely messy. If Kamala is natural conclusion, then we can transition to her via the 25th amendment at anytime post-election.

[@sascharai1335]

@@Placid_Falcon and voters should vote for someone who wouldn't serve his term why?

[@certifiedlb3451]

@@sascharai1335Crank is completely out of his mind on most issues

[@dodoyoyo759]

@@sascharai1335 LOL its probably just fking Destiny on his spam account, or some kid he paid to spam bullshit... theres no point in talking to these people

[@justdebbismith8623]

Now?

[@CabbageDragon]

I get the feeling Destiny is a Ben Shapiro wannabe. He talks incredibly fast, impressively if I'm honest, but he only regurgitates the same talking points over and over. I'd be surprised if he didn't think of himself as a "very stable genius"

[@dangelini1137]

They are both cringe for sure

[@marianaj9]

You can always spot a high school forensics alum by how fast they argue.

Destiny = Sean Hannity * Ben Shapiro * -1

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

exactly.

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

@James-8841 pipe down, you genocidal maniac.

[@NocturnalAquarist]

Destiny sounds like a sell out reading off of a script. Which considering his history and why he was banned from twitch makes sense. Did a vast majority of the country conveniently forget that we can write in names on the election? Every one of us can write in John Stewart if we wanted to

[@tylerschroeder3722]

A script for clowns

[@ironassbrown]

Anyone on this panel would make a better candidate then Biden. I may think that Destiny is an obtuse debate boi, but I would rather have him than Biden right now.

[@marvsmusings]

Destiney doesn’t understand how anything works in politics. Dude is so out of his depth…

[@kassygendron3022]

That old dude in the bottom left corner is just as bad. He says over and over and over that the ONLY REASON he is voting is to make sure that Trump does not get back in the White House. Yet, Trump did not do anything that harmed the liberals whatsoever in his 4 years. Smh. Talk about delusion.

[@robbyascher9090]

Destiny isn’t interested in solving any problems. He just likes the dopamine rush he gets from trying to “win” an argument. And it’s ya know, really obnoxious & annoying & unhelpful. He should stop. He should go back to gaming. That’s what he’s good at.

[@Thebirdwolf]

🎯 spot on

[@Martin-hd2tr]

That was Jordan Peterson's analysis of him. Think of JPs politics what you will, but he's a psychologist and he said (I'm paraphrasing): "if youre smart, you can use your verbal fluency as a weapon to gain social status by 'winning the argument'. Destiny doesn't want to get to the truth, he's trying to win." And I think that's spot on.

[@WizardofGargalondese]

how is this true at all?

[@hochmeisterr]

​@@Martin-hd2trWhat did he say in this conversation that wasn't truth?

[@certifiedlb3451]

Cenk is absolutely not interested in solving any issues he’s interested in virtue signaling and grandstanding

[@allingerdoug]

The focus on the individual (Trump/Biden) misses the overall comparison of administrations. Biden's team has proven overall effective in areas that matter despite the insanity in Congress and constant attacks. What if we just want things to be stable for a while? We're still dealing with the aftermath of covid and inflation. Trump is clearly incompetent and sinister.

[@leroygrayjr]

Allowing this Young Turks, Independents spokesperson to talk without being stopped is pathetic.

[@robbyascher9090]

Destiny is like the C rate Ben Shapiro of the center left.

[@Heyoka86]

He's not even center left, he's to the right of establishment dems, who are full on right-wing.

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

Very good analysis.

[@exxabkgaming3349]

He's not on the left at all, he's a centrist and one that needs Wikipedia to even debate lmao

[@rafaelw.b.1324]

He is not center-left at all. He is a corporate Dem, Center Right. please. Sanders is a center-left person.

[@Kingkongmental]

@@rafaelw.b.1324if you think he is center right you are lost. Closer to far left then center right. Votes Biden 90+% are left

[@georgiarn3915]

Im surprised Cenk is close with Brianna Wu, she has some very bad takes and associations.

[@steveschmidt6847]

This guy Destiny is a total tool of corporate power and is embryonic of why we lose so often.

[@jefflayton153]

Destiny is a unserious person 😂

[@adolfoatreides4172]

God, “Destiny” talks a million miles an hour and makes zero good points. He’s like Ben Shapiro but for the Democratic side.

[@Pancajayna]

when did Hillary or Joe EVER beat Trump in a debate? They both got their asses handed to them...

[@todjohnson6531]

I guess you didn't watch the 2019 debate. 48% to 41% thought Biden won. But, hey- if you believe trump, he wins everything. Tremendous winning. He 's tired of winning

[@the_peach_bee]

One thing I wish would be addressed in answering Destiny regarding rigged primaries: I don’t actually get to vote in primaries. My state votes later than other states. It’s after the wining and dining of the DNC as well who are making decisions based on their own objectives and primary election results of very few states preceding my primary Election Day. I don’t get a choice. Everyone has dropped out due to pressure from the DNC. I don’t pretend to fully understand politics. I’m just an average person trying to keep up with it all. But that feels like it’s stepping on my right to vote and it’s not actually a fair primary.

[@ZenOfMKVLI]

Alzheimer's deniers lol ( minus Cenk ) It's not just "Age" it's much more than that

[@thedebatemechannel4746]

I think Joe Biden is done for. The stuff they're talking about where he goes and does great debates or great interviews I don't think he's capable of doing that. I think he's in rapid cognitive decline. Before he was doing better than Trump cognitively speaking but now I think he has dipped below Trump at this point. I never liked Joe Biden. It's a shame that he won in the first place even though not as much as it's a shame that Trump won before. I don't like the Democratic party I think they're corrupt and their frauds. That being said replacing Joe Biden is absolute lunacy. All the data says that that would be a disaster. There is no other candidate that is ranking as high as Joe Biden and camela Harris. Anyone having this conversation that does not discuss what the polls say or identify a specific candidate that they are saying would do better and backs it up with some kind of data is either clueless or lying to.

[@thedebatemechannel4746]

Think about the insanity that this guy in the show is sitting there suggesting a bunch of candidates that are trailing Joe Biden by significant margin. Just think about insanity. They literally are pulling significantly under Joe Biden but yet he's sitting there just saying he thinks they're going to be better with no basis just his feelings. Ignore what the voters are saying this guy thinks that there will do much better so let's go with this guy and ignore the voters. Sounds like a Democrat

[@stardust5079]

​@@thedebatemechannel4746 "All the data", what data, and what assumptions accompany said data?

[@jaartisjones5713]

​@@stardust5079 what he says is true. Y'all best bet is Michelle Obama. She was the only one that was either ahead or tied with trump during the hypothetical

[@noreenmcgovern1023]

Its our country for God's sake. These freaks make me 🤢

[@CZPC]

Destiny next level brainlet

[@dangelini1137]

And manlet

[@Macheako]

And midwit

[@Martin-hd2tr]

Soy boy

[@DoubleJSmith]

@James-8841 So you are massive bigot and delusional, got it. Fuck Israel

[@cylon5741]

@@Martin-hd2tr soy boy with a rifle on the wall? riiiiight

[@EndGameEnt]

The Dem loyalists: "Should we replace him?" Guys... you don't have much time. This is CRUNCH time! Figure it out or Trump is going to win and potentially run the Dem party through the courts. Don't play with fire!

[@TestChannelWow-bh7ys]

Destiny is a boring cult leader. Anyone who watches this guy needs to re-evaluate their lives

[@josephrochefort9989]

Hahahaha, the Democrat party isn't a cult. In a pigs eye.

[@christopherwhull]

Destiny yes you can talk as fast as Ben Shapiro, but it is simplified "but because".