DEBATE| Is Isa (AS) Dead According to Authentic Sources?| Mohammad Abd Alrazack vs Raziullah Nouman

[@realkhansakhan]

0:49 Introduction to debate by moderator Rumzi Opening statement 7:26 Razi (Qadyani) 11:08 Al-Yemeni (Muslim) 13:17 Razi (Qadyani) 38:46 Al-Yemeni (Muslim) Rebuttal 1:12:59 Razi (Qadyani) 1:25:40 Al-Yemeni (Muslim) 1:34:54 Razi (Qadyani) 1:45:41 Al-Yemeni (Muslim) Free argument 1:45:42

[@holyleague8286]

Stop worshiping the Pagan BLACK STONE 🕋 instead of living Word of God☝️☦️

[@Kimeikus]

@@holyleague8286 We don’t worship the stone.

[@cumar9875]

​@@holyleague8286stop worshipping the wood that killed your false god the naked man hanged on tree the cursed criminal

[@beahumanbeing5832]

You are all lair mohd was self a ldir dhy Hou kreiple will nit speak lie it us sunnat to sunnat to speak lie . Yuh nenyiond tere razi qafisnj when razisaud I m qadiani dgxne in Yiu how openly you speak lie I know it is sunnat of mohd why Yuh will not speak

[@imranw16]

​@@holyleague8286 you that much stupid?!😂😂

[@axis2312]

No sophistry, no tricks, you presented everything accurately and made us all proud to stand for Islam. May Allah accept from you akhi

[@Alhamdullillah]

​@@jettyharrison4377are you ok?

[@axis2312]

@@Alhamdullillah he, like the Qadianis, forgets that Isa PBUH was a Palestinian man who spoke Hebrew so they both think it's a different person

[@Alhamdullillah]

@johanneshartman4618 meaning we need to accept an anonymous book (bible) filled with contradictions and ,depending on the sect, a different bible. I'd rather use my brain and not put it in a box to be able to accept whatever the pastor/priest says.

[@axis2312]

@johanneshartman4618 bro I do choose Jesus, I can't be a muslim without believing in him, I love him PBUH more than the majority of Christians

[@thewordistheonlytruth8784]

It is so easy to prove the quran is man made. Just ask is the person of allah in the quran a fiction in history. I will do the sahada if a muslim can answer me this question And proof the person of allah Not fiction

[@yazeed1016]

Masha Allah you smashed this brother. This cult will continue to be exposed.

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

@johanneshartman4618 Cmon now 🤔 How is this Evil from God ? "O daughter Babylon, you devastator! Happy shall they be who pay you back what you have done to us! Happy shall they be who take your little ones and dash them against the rock!" (Psalm 137:8-9 NRSV) NRSV, where the Israelites were asking why they were being attacked by the Babylonians: "Hear and give ear; do not be haughty, for the Lord has spoken. . . . And if you say in your heart, 'Why have these things come upon me?' it is for the greatness of your iniquity that your skirts are lifted up, and you are violated . . . because you have forgotten me and trusted in lies. I myself will lift up your skirts over your face, and your shame will be seen." (Jeremiah 13:15-26 NRSV) "Skirts lifted up" is sexual assault. "Violate" is rape. The King James Version has the quaint "heels made bare," which obscures the sexual assault. Notice that the "iniquity" for which they were being raped was not immorality or depravity; it was simply because "you have forgotten me." There are nine passages in the Old Testament where God makes cannibalistic threats. Here is the worst one: "And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." (Leviticus 26:27-29 King James Version) General Jephthah made a vow with God in order to defeat the enemy. When Jephthah won the war, "And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: 'If you give the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord's, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.' . . . When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! . . . After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed." (Judges 11:30-39 NIV) After burning his daughter, Jephthah was rewarded with a prestigious judgeship and was later buried with honor. Cutting babies to pieces and raping the wives "See, the day of the Lord is coming - a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger. . . . I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty. . . . Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives violated." (Isaiah 13:9-16 NIV) Here is some Quran ۞ قُلْ يَـٰعِبَادِىَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَسْرَفُوا۟ عَلَىٰٓ أَنفُسِهِمْ لَا تَقْنَطُوا۟ مِن رَّحْمَةِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يَغْفِرُ ٱلذُّنُوبَ جَمِيعًا ۚ إِنَّهُۥ هُوَ ٱلْغَفُورُ ٱلرَّحِيمُ ٥٣, Say, ˹O Prophet, that Allah says,˺ “O My servants who have exceeded the limits against their souls! Do not lose hope in Allah’s mercy, for Allah certainly forgives all sins. He is indeed the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. Al-An`am 6:54 And decree for us in this world [that which is] good and [also] in the Hereafter; indeed, we have turned back to You." [Allāh] said, "My punishment - I afflict with it whom I will, but My mercy encompasses all things." So I will decree it [especially] for those who fear Me and give zakāh and those who believe in Our verses- Al-A`raf 7:156 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَـٰكَ إِلَّا رَحْمَةًۭ لِّلْعَـٰلَمِينَ ١٠٧ We have sent you ˹O Prophet˺ only as a mercy for the whole world. Al-Anbiyaa’ 21:107 Riyad as-Salihin 419 Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) saying, "When Allah created the creatures, He wrote in the Book, which is with Him over His Throne: 'Verily, My Mercy prevailed over My Wrath" Come to Islam, we all invite you brother ☝🏾☝🏻☝🏿☝🏼☝🏽

[@Ahmed-rd9ot]

he didnt expose anything. Razi was all over him

[@bk-qr5nx]

​@@Ahmed-rd9otwe can judge from the comments who won 😂

[@vimp6260]

​@johanneshartman4618 why does Dionysia turn water into wine and 1000 years later this story is jesus turning water into wine

[@keen1313]

@@vimp6260 ohhh interesting ! Dionysius vs Jesus is actually answered a long time ago, here’s the video for the explanation brother ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKKbl3mtYtSJadksi=FuihhRHiU33zhfr3 i

[@muslim5067]

Proud of you Al Yemeni. I learnt from this information. Alhamdulillah. You were absolutely brilliant. Masha Allah ta Barakallah.

[@syas13]

dont worry we choose Jesus, Musa, David, Muhammad as PROPHETS.@johanneshartman4618

[@muslim5067]

@johanneshartman4618. Read the Quran. You will find him in Surah Maryam(Chapter of Mary). We love Jesus (peace and blessings be upon him)

[@GUNN_123]

@johanneshartman4618we do believe in Essa (Jesus)( as)but not as a God or trinity.. 👍🏽

[@BroRizwan]

Brilliant final rebuttal from bro Yemeni

[@EQUAL.RIGHTS.4ALL]

Yeminite absolutely beautifully presented the whole masla.

[@lost_is_history8224]

Damn, that was a battering by Yemeni. Razi only stuck to his preplanned narrative and didnt deal with what Yemeni brought forth. Alhamdullillah, hopefully Ahmadis see the light.

[@mujahid8456]

Brother please don't call them Ahmadi instead call Qadyani

[@vimp6260]

​@johanneshartman4618 Dionysus in the Greek myths turns water into wine sounds familiar doesnt it

[@Kimeikus]

*Razi the Ahmadi lost this one pretty badly.* - He claims to know Sunni methodology of interpreting the Quran and Hadith yet he derives a completely different conclusion than that of the scholarly consensus, and then he complains when Al-Yemeni cites a bunch of classical Sunni scholars who categorically state that Jesus is alive. - He quotes people like Ibn Taymiyyah and Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab in his own opening statement about proving the death of Jesus yet Ibn Taymiyyah and Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab literally agree with the Muslim consensus that Jesus is still alive. Even Razi’s own so-called prophet corroborates Sunni definitions of key terms like _mutawaffīka_ whose denial Razi formulates his arguments upon. - He comes in with a pre-written rebuttal instead of engaging with the actually debate opponent, which shows that he is blindly set on imposing his way into the people instead of listening and responding to the arguments that the other side makes. It’s ironic that he quotes Quran 4:115 about not going against “the way of the believers” yet that’s what he’s been trying to do the entire debate. When look past all of their grandstanding and “oh quote Allah and not the scholars” - you realize that their entire creed makes no sense. Well done, brother. May Allah reward you.

[@bravelionheart6572]

Beautiful analysis brother. Beautiful. MashaAllah. You either sounded like a scholar, or you are a scholar. JazakAllah Khair.

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

@johanneshartman4618 BIBLE CONDONES PEDOPHILIA God commanded in Numbers 31:17-18 for the Israelites to: “Kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but all the female children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites ... And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males ... And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones ... And Moses was wroth with the officers ... And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:1-18 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it ... And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself. Deuteronomy 20:10-14 How shall we do for wives for them that remain, seeing we have sworn by the LORD that we will not give them of our daughters to wives? ... And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children. And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man. And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh. Judges 21:7-11 Go and lie in wait in the vineyards; And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh ... And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught. Judges 21:20-23 It's OK to sell your daughter (no mention is made of age) to a man for him to use as a sex slave. if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant ... If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed ... If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish. Exodus 21:7-10

[@meersulaiman1]

@@bravelionheart6572 didn't he sounded like a cunning lil fox?

[@bravelionheart6572]

No. Unless you believe Mirza to be a prophet.

[@realislam202]

This guy is wrong that Mirza ghulam is prophet after Muhammad pbuh and so does these sunni guys that jesus will come as prophet, this concept destroyed prophet Muhammad pbuh claim as seal of prophet, Sunni believe that jesus will follow same prophet Muhammad teachings so does Ahmedi believe that Mirza Ghulam ahmed is secondary prophet and followed prophet Muhammad pbuh as original prophet, both are wrong no where is Quran its says that jesus or Mihdi will come and save Muslim from Jews and Christian thaese are stories later added in Hadith by Muslims mostly inspired by Bible and Shia believes about Mehdi, those are false stories Muslims should only follow waht is clear in Quran, on other side Ahmedi claims that Mirza ghulam ahmed is the same jesus mentioned in hadith so there is no difference between both sunni and Ahmedi on this point, but when Ahmedi says Jesus PBUH is died taht is what Quran also says God saved him and he died like other humans.

[@thehomelessproject3784]

I dont get why we are treating these Qadianis with such respect... when they have shown their true colours on twitter and other forms even in the texts they use the worst of language towards muslim... and razi is one of those individuals who tells peoples what they want to hear... and behind their backs he says something different. His channel is filled with deliberately edited clips and clips taken out of context. Mirza is a known liar and they want to debate this subject because this is the only point they have ... and even this has been refuted over and over the sunnah is clear for the muslims... Eesa is alive in a way Allah knows best and he will return there are numerous hadith and accounts of the signs of the day of judgment... we dont need to give them anymore airtime on this. Its time wasting if you are going to talk to them dont let them run away from the cruks of the matter and that is mirza and his lies even that in and of itself has been killed off by dawah wise

[@Smartiesmmm211]

Absolutely agreed. His videos are a joke. Such deception.

[@meersulaiman1]

Brother we Muslims treat even a dog with good intention and respect, razi is a astray human being may be this act of dawahwise will open up his heart.... May Allah guide him and qadianis

[@DjangoDrango]

Cause we want them to become muslims ..never forget that bigger porpouse

[@thehomelessproject3784]

@@meersulaiman1 no doubt a dog is a dog... but a dog with rabies is something else. I never said dont give him the benefit of the doubt he's had countless opportunities sitting there for 4 or 5 lengthy 6 plus hour debates what use is it...? Everyone of those debates straight after hes lied and edited the clips now even the smallest of dawah channels have these clowns on to further there subscriber counts... its time we leave these clowns and move on to sincere people debates like this are counter productive Allaah guides... we don't and can't if a person is sincere one proof is enough he on the other hand has deliberately lied and twisted the truth and he's shown time and time again he's not using these debates for his sincere guidance he's using them to massage his ego and gain a further foothold in the ahmaddi community. “I have never debated with a knowledgeable person, except that I won the debate, and I have never debated with an ignorant person, except that I lost.” Imam Ash-Shafi`ee The greatest of scholars have known when to say is enough is enough

[@thehomelessproject3784]

@johanneshartman4618 get a life

[@leya01]

MashAllah your performance was pure gold

[@leya01]

NEVER @johanneshartman4618

[@mohammadkaisbawa]

Hats off to you brother Yemeni .... brother Yemeni asked razi almost 7 times provide the tafsir of Abu Bakar R.A but he failed to provide.... then brother Yemeni asked him about ISA AS regarding the death in Kashmir again he made the digression.... as a audience I can easily make it out of this debate that Ahemediya is not on the right path.... May Allah blessed you Brother Yemini.... look at the audacity of razi he went to dawah wise channel and start celebrating that he beat brother Yemeni and I was like who is he fooling , himself or the audience ... our prayer with you brother Yemeni....

[@YemeniteFront]

Remember only to be told he got blasted and then kicked lol. Shameless from him

[@beahumanbeing5832]

​@@YemeniteFrontwhen mohd vkdumaljah appointed to me a what was reference if mohd book referance You mohd is a oriohate. Dont convince hj dhnagies inkh we want f th I know.ehst us referance if mohd about his proohate hood

[@sajidmunshi5301]

​@@beahumanbeing5832 You are in dire need of some English lessons. None of that gobbledegook you posted made any sense.

[@muhammadyasir6780]

I only came here to watch this debate as Razi came to Dawahwise stream claiming he just buried Bro Yemeni and acted as he was cleaning the showel... what a Liar Razi is

[@mistermannan]

Bro. Don't tell me you believed that snake. I've come here from there as well but I knew he was lying. Just came to confirm my thoughts.

[@muhammadyasir6780]

​@@mistermannanofcourse i did not. I just wanted to confirm his bluffs

[@smilesmile6309]

It’s halarious that qadiyani contradicts so much in their claims. If they try so hard to prove one thing u will find their other crap is being exposed. This dude is trying hard that isa a. S is dead while they also say he came down went to Kashmir and died there lol so how does that work

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

@johanneshartman4618 Show me a single verse where God calls Jesus PBUH God or Jesus PBUH calls himself God? We can talk about how Paul's letter to Corinthians was him admiting he lied and deceived them for money . Or the contradictions in the Bible Or its historical mistakes (Romans didn't crucify theives) Paul openly brags about lying and manipulation 2 Corinthians 12-16 King James Bible But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile. Paul will be in hell where he can think about all the lies he's spewed against God ...why do you risk it ? Psalm 5:6 New International Version 6 you destroy those who tell lies. The bloodthirsty and deceitful you, Lord, detest. Psalm 101:7 New International Version 7 No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no one who speaks falsely will stand in my presence. Psalm 32:2 New International Version 2 Blessed is the one whose sin the Lord does not count against them and in whose spirit is no deceit. Brother do you really want to stand next to Paul on judgement day ? Paul calls God a liar Brother... Galatians 2:21 New International Version 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” But God says Ezekiel 18:9 New International Version 9 He follows my decrees and faithfully keeps my laws. That man is righteous; he will surely live, declares the Sovereign Lord. Paul will not have a good end.. Brother you don't need to suffer the same fate... I invite you to Islam my Brother, to the way of Jesus PBUH and all the Messengers and Prophets Peace be upon them ☝🏽☝🏾☝🏻☝🏿☝🏼

[@muslim5067]

@johanneshartman4618 Good! Choose Jesus, because he predicted prophet Muhammad

[@JasenkoOmerovic-m7q]

Mirza is dead but jesus is alive amen

[@Hebiscus998]

Alhamdulillah

[@sudan738]

Alhumdulilah

[@na789]

Excellent opportunity for both debaters, your also very well done moderator! Keep it up and arrange more videos on different topics.

[@jimfromwakanda7991]

Great debate. MashaAllah. You can tell your opponent has already accepted defeat when they come prepared with pre written rebuttals.😂😂 i mean, come on qadianis, is that the best you can do? You couldnt fault anyone if they thought you also have "pre written" questions and answers 😂😂😂

[@realislam202]

This guy is wrong that Mirza ghulam is prophet after Muhammad pbuh and so does these sunni guys that jesus will come as prophet, this concept destroyed prophet Muhammad pbuh claim as seal of prophet, Sunni believe that jesus will follow same prophet Muhammad teachings so does Ahmedi believe that Mirza Ghulam ahmed is secondary prophet and followed prophet Muhammad pbuh as original prophet, both are wrong no where is Quran its says that jesus or Mihdi will come and save Muslim from Jews and Christian thaese are stories later added in Hadith by Muslims mostly inspired by Bible and Shia believes about Mehdi, those are false stories Muslims should only follow waht is clear in Quran, on other side Ahmedi claims that Mirza ghulam ahmed is the same jesus mentioned in hadith so there is no difference between both sunni and Ahmedi on this point, but when Ahmedi says Jesus PBUH is died taht is what Quran also says God saved him and he died like other humans.

[@xxCr7xx823]

@johanneshartman4618 but Why brou

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

@johanneshartman4618 BIBLE CONDONES PEDOPHILIA God commanded in Numbers 31:17-18 for the Israelites to: “Kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but all the female children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites ... And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males ... And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones ... And Moses was wroth with the officers ... And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:1-18 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it ... And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself. Deuteronomy 20:10-14 How shall we do for wives for them that remain, seeing we have sworn by the LORD that we will not give them of our daughters to wives? ... And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children. And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man. And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh. Judges 21:7-11 Go and lie in wait in the vineyards; And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh ... And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught. Judges 21:20-23 It's OK to sell your daughter (no mention is made of age) to a man for him to use as a sex slave. if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant ... If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed ... If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish. Exodus 21:7-10

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

@johanneshartman4618 Show me a single verse where God calls Jesus PBUH God or Jesus PBUH calls himself God? We can talk about how Paul's letter to Corinthians was him admiting he lied and deceived them for money . Or the contradictions in the Bible Or its historical mistakes (Romans didn't crucify theives) Paul openly brags about lying and manipulation 2 Corinthians 12-16 King James Bible But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile. Paul will be in hell where he can think about all the lies he's spewed against God ...why do you risk it ? Psalm 5:6 New International Version 6 you destroy those who tell lies. The bloodthirsty and deceitful you, Lord, detest. Psalm 101:7 New International Version 7 No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no one who speaks falsely will stand in my presence. Psalm 32:2 New International Version 2 Blessed is the one whose sin the Lord does not count against them and in whose spirit is no deceit. Brother do you really want to stand next to Paul on judgement day ? Paul calls God a liar Brother... Galatians 2:21 New International Version 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” But God says Ezekiel 18:9 New International Version 9 He follows my decrees and faithfully keeps my laws. That man is righteous; he will surely live, declares the Sovereign Lord. Paul will not have a good end.. Brother you don't need to suffer the same fate... I invite you to Islam my Brother, to the way of Jesus PBUH and all the Messengers and Prophets Peace be upon them ☝🏽☝🏾☝🏻☝🏿☝🏼

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

@@realislam202 your lying or provide evidence.

[@fahadusmani2184]

Amazing was not expecting brother Yemeni was excellent he thrashed Razi ....🎉🎉

[@mohammedisrar8658]

chapter 5 verse 116-117 is about on the day off judgment when Allah will question everyone on the day off judgment

[@mdsaief7880]

First 30 minute is enough to understand that Razi is a big layer.

[@thealien_ali3382]

​@johanneshartman4618choose the father who sent Jesus pbuh

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

@johanneshartman4618choose Allah over his servants

[@xxCrimsonSpiritxx]

When the Jews deviated from the right path, God (SwT) sent Jesus (PBUH) to guide them back When the Christians deviated from the right path, God (SwT) sent Muhammad (PBUH) to guide them back Muslims didn't deviate or change the religion, so what is the point in sending Qadyani? (since they believe in the Qur'an and Hadiths are intact)

[@laminbalajo5913]

May God be your Helper Razi

[@Justice-Barzackh]

That was difficult to listen to at times. ---------------------- Thank Allah ta'ala for pure unadulterated islamic monotheism. ------------------ Alhamdulillah for calm and knowledgeable Muslims like Yemeni.

[@muhammadyasir6780]

Why does Abu Bakar (RA) then fought Rida wars to supress false prophets right after demise of our Beloved Prophet (PBUH). What if some of them were the second coming of Messiah... the silver lining is, how will we know if everyone starts saying it

[@fatimafarah2786]

​@johanneshartman4618How about choosing the Lord of Jesus PBUH

[@Sohaaaaaaaaaail]

I came across brother Yemeni today and I am extremely impressed on how he tackles the subject of Ahmadiyya. I have subscribed to the channel and I am very much looking forward to more Ahmadiyya debunking! Inshallah!

[@YemeniteFront]

@@Sohaaaaaaaaaail Jzk Allah khair akhi

[@Sohaaaaaaaaaail]

@@YemeniteFront wa iyyak. I have been recently watching a lot of Ahmadiyya debunking and I cannot believe some of the stuff these guys categorically believe in!

[@muhammadshujahat8590]

Razi is professor of Waffling at Waffling Donation School at the Waffling Qadiyaniat University 🎉

[@abyoungrome136]

Razi - "Let me finish, I didn't cut you off..." Razi then routinely interrupts Yemeni routinely every 30seconds x the whole stream 😂

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

Part of their cunning tactics

[@Sohaaaaaaaaaail]

The guy is a lost soul, the fire is hot

[@smsloft8724]

No matter how hard theses qadianies try they still can't save mirza the dajjal

[@theislamicfirewall7473]

SubhanAllah this razi guy is the purest form of kaafir I have ever seen. someone who knows he is lying and continues to do so. Add to that his feminine way of behaving and mickey mouse voice and he really is a character 😂😂😂

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

Cartoon character

[@Hebiscus998]

You have a point, there is no way that someone who lies so blatantly, doesn’t know they’re lying. I just wonder what goes on in his mind when he’s lying.

[@AbdulRehman-j6q9h]

Right time for qadhianis to accept Islam.

[@imtiazmemon9048]

😂😂😂Defending Mirza Ghulam Qadiani is like trying unsuccessfully to make halwa by adding sugar to names.😂😂😂

[@vimp6260]

​@johanneshartman4618 we have done you haven't

[@JasenkoOmerovic]

Jesus pbuh will come back pbuh like it or not qardy

[@DieuetavecnousEmma]

. 22 I have given them the glory which you gave me, that they may be one as we are one, 23 I in them and you in me, that they may be brought into complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and loved them as you loved me.

[@tahirahmad9645]

Liked Dawah guy moderating keeping neutral. He didnt call anyone kufar. He listened to everything.

[@Ismail-Yahya]

Love and respect the Irish. Sincere and honest. Thank you 🇵🇸🇮🇪❤

[@eddie2562]

Here in my country, Ahmadis are not Muslims.

[@sensefirst475]

Anywhere Ahmadis are not Muslims, whether any law has been passed or not. By the by, which is your country?

[@eddie2562]

I am from Indonesia@@sensefirst475

[@sensefirst475]

@@eddie2562 Salaam from India, bro

[@eddie2562]

@@sensefirst475Wa'alaikumsalam warahmatullah wabarakatuhu.

[@sweetcheeks11]

@johanneshartman4618us Muslims have. Y’all who have abandoned the laws of the Jews and skipped over the prophecy of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ in the Old Testament. You follow Paul and his pagan tainting of true monotheism

[@syedrahim4771]

Quran 5: 117 I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: “Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me,You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.

[@HereIam-fw2yn]

When you say "You took me" can you explain where did you take this meaning? Please elaborate from Arabic dictionary. Tawafi means death or sleep.

[@antajulhaque305]

The prophet SAW went on a night journey to the heavens, one does not need to die physically to travel up by the will of Allah!

[@Dawah-Quest]

Razi’s voice makes me wish I was deaf! Waffle, waffle , waffle without any syrup 😂

[@DieuetavecnousEmma]

75:17 - Indeed, his gathering and instruction (his instructive reading) is upon us.

[@TheTruthSeekerMe]

My husband walked by when Razi was speaking and said “what a beta voice” 😅

[@asifhussain4068]

😂

[@mistermannan]

😂

[@cornflakesmachine300]

U know who else made fun of people way of talking/voice..... firaun made fun of hazrat musa (as).....

[@TariQ-nx3uz]

The Pharao said something similar to Musa AS...

[@TheTruthSeekerMe]

@@TariQ-nx3uz Musa AS was a muslim though. Here we are discussing an Ahmadi. Sorry to hurt ur feelings.

[@mistermannan]

1:13:05 erm. This guy made this rebuttal whilst brother Yemeni was speaking ? What a guy .

[@libanali8562]

A pre made rebuttal is all I needed to know not to take this qadiani seriously.

[@DjangoDrango]

U spoke truth

[@nazmulkarim836]

You pls stop worshipping pagan gods. We already chose Isa Ibn Mariyam AS. And his name wasn't jesus ever. His followers didn't call him Jesus. You're actually worship Zeus shrouded in semitic cover

[@LeeMoore-fv3zz]

May i ask if the death of Jesus was proclaimed by Himself in Surah Al Maryam ayahs 30 and 31 ?

[@salmanaamer8074]

18:43, wrong English translation presented by qadyani

[@ibrahimbreakstein2812]

Omg, this is crazy! I've never seen a debate with someone getting a preprepared rebuttal!!! He completely ignored everything

[@mohammadjawaadriaz6362]

Intro alone brings tears to my eyes

[@mop6279]

@johanneshartman4618 We have, as a Prpohet of Allah, and Messiah, when he comes back.

[@vimp6260]

​@johanneshartman4618 why do u celebrate a fertility holiday when jesus returns by painting eggs

[@FinkThree]

@johanneshartman4618hey bro you should consider getting a life rather than spamming low iq low low effort nonsense from your mother’s basement

[@muhammadansarahmed6039]

Not gonna lie i m at 1:44:00 fed up with razi not addressing yemeni's points. he is too annoying to listen to, just wafflng. was very hard to follow through his arguments was repeating the whole time ''you lie brother, Allahu akbar, you concede my point, fear Allah brother''. The biggest lie they live is the lie of the messiah returning as another prophet when he is already dead according to them, messiah died is buried in kashmeer but returned also, how shallow is their aqeeda. P.S listening to a blatant k a ff ! r saying ''rahimullah'' felt strange.

[@Hebiscus998]

They can’t believe someone would live in heaven for 2000+ years but they would easily believe he would return in another body.. wow

[@riib1408]

This Razi guy talk about truthful, unbelievable. He is a mr. Spin doctor

[@mariyanbusanti6295]

Of course.His role model was a dajjaal who claims to be Eesa bin Mariyam,Imam Mahdhi,krishna etc. Mirza gulaam ahmed was definitely inspired by shaithaan.When someone eats junk food his body will be junk and when someone reads junk books his mind will be junk.That's what has happened to Razi the lair.He read too much books from dajjaal prophet gulaam ahmed qadiani.

[@dormantviewer]

Pre prepared rebuttal text in live debate? What a joke...🤣

[@balaghmir2450]

I am confused how he came with prepared answers lolz

[@nbk2134]

​@johanneshartman4618what makes you think Muslims reject Jesus?

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

@@nbk2134because he’s an uneducated kuffar

[@saliehassan5667]

Lol, Razi talks as if any of these scholars agrees with their view and makes like its their scholars.

[@oday4210]

This Razi guy should open a waffle house and should also be a travel agent because he whole waffled the conversation, then went around the whole world to dodge brother Mohammad's arguments.

[@smilesmile6309]

what funny is that razi is trying so hard to prove that jesus died, but at the same time they claim that his body was burried in kashmir. so my question is that if jesus pbuh died, then how did he got to kashmir???

[@Smartiesmmm211]

They say after Jesus pbuh was put on the cross, he got off, walked to India, lived till age 102 and died in India and is buried there. That is their belief.

[@chocol8chiptrip]

This verse especially for the Qadianis. Surah Al-Baqarah verse 15: [But] Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression [while] they wander blindly.

[@TariQ-nx3uz]

​@@chocol8chiptripit applies to you, evidently no ahmadi muslim mocks other Muslims while other muslims mock Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sb day and night.

[@Let-me-see-things]

​@@TariQ-nx3uz"Ahmadi Muslim" and "other Muslim"? What's that? Ahmadis are not Muslims as they believe that the imposter Mirza Ghulam Qadiani was a prophet!

[@-AEON-]

@@TariQ-nx3uz Nah, it fits Qadiyanis to a T. So keep with your transgression.

[@muhammadyasir6780]

All they say "we as Ahmadi jamaat believe". Bruh what... u r not here to just say that... u need to defend it with tangible evidence

[@TariQ-nx3uz]

Watch again...there are alone 30 verses of the Quran which prove/indicate that Issa AS has passed away like all prophets.

[@Rohilla313]

The Hadith clearly says Isa as will come down (nuzool). Mirza, may Allah curse him, didn't "come down" at all. He came out from between his mother's legs, like every other human being.

[@PearlsOfwiszdom]

The word 'Raf'ah' means to raise up in Arabic, it does not mean death. The Ahmedi folk has shown his deceptive nature, therefore I reject his religion. He can keep it to himself.

[@ymmq1991]

This dude is debating a ghost! Is there a 4th person in this debate or am i missing something here? He is not addressing yemenis arguments at all

[@rsaiyed1979]

Razi a loyal soldier of Dajjal-Mirza, was completely destroyed on this stream and went on to DawaWise live stream right after and had a complete meltdown. Ended up getting kicked off the stream for his bad behavior, what a clown 🤡

[@gentle846]

you guys for sure love to make up stories to justified your beliefs even though your boy got defended in the debate.

[@thehomelessproject3784]

​@gentle846 nobody makes stories up like the ahmaddi do.....

[@syas13]

you guys make stories and then change them , just like the diarroheal Puppet mirza, changing prophecies when they didnt fruition@@gentle846

[@HereIam-fw2yn]

​@@thehomelessproject3784believing a human can be alive for 2000+ years and false and baseless allegations against the promised Messiah is where your lies amd stories start.

[@thehomelessproject3784]

@HereIam-fw2yn want false stories? The fact that he said he was actually Mary the mother of Jesus for two years... and then claimed to be jesus.. and then a Hindu god... so he's a trans Hindu by his own admission not only that its been documented in his own books he was on opium most of the time so he's also a drug addict.. if you don't want to or choose to ignore these things then thats up to you... and of your referring to isa may Allah be pleased with him then Allah can do anything befitting his Majesty and if part of Allah's will was to raise isa up to himself so that he may be sent down again to defeat the dajjal then thats Allah's plan... And you won't believe isa is alive but believe in musa being alive because your nothing but liars and hypocrites Do you not read in the Quran that Allah has said: فَلاَ تَكُن فِي مِرْيَةٍ مِّن لِّقَآئِهِ (So do not be in doubt over his meeting). And you know that this ayah was revealed regarding Musa (a.s), so it is a CLEAR PROOF that Musa (alayhissalam) is alive. He had a meeting with the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad) ﷺ, and a DEAD PERSON CAN NOT MEET A LIVING PERSON. You cannot find ayat like this regarding Isa (alayhissalam), but yes, we find statements of his death on several occasions. So reflect! Because Allah loves those who reflect." - [Hamamt-ul-Bushra in Arabic, Ruhani Khazain: Vol 7, Page 221 - 222] you will believe when a man claims he's a women... and then the son of the women... and then a Hindu god... and believing musa is alive and yet because the liar mirza claimed to be isa you deny the sunnah... May Allah guide you Aameen

[@syedmustafa8406]

Ahmediya by no definition were Muslims. They are actually miunafiqeen. They follow a Punjabi con man they consider him the prophet. Qaidiani/ Ahmedi should understand that they Islam is a documented religion, with standardized definition of its believes/ faith. Those who don’t agree those definitions cannot be by definition called themselves Muslims. For example Sunni and Shia both are Muslims because they accept and comply those definition, no one of either Sunni or shia denomination have the right to call the other as non Muslim. However Qaidiani/ Ahmedi clearly calls Punjabi man their prophet . They say that the prophet of Islam was NOT the last prophet but as in the opening this Qaidiani deceptively said that the prophet Muhammed was the seal , by this they mean Mirza Qaidiani was a prophet ( now-zubilla), these people don’t fit into the definition of Islamic faith,

[@CPA_AFK]

TLDW/TLDR: Al-Yemeni wiped the floor of this ahmadi!!

[@jahangirnawab1534]

The fact that razi had a prepared rebuttal is so bizarre

[@YemeniteFront]

Ik lol. Everything was scripted

[@jahangirnawab1534]

@@YemeniteFront I think people need to realize this is not how a debate has ever worked what razi is effectively doing is forcing his presentations and just preaching lol he lost by default the clown.

[@YemeniteFront]

@@jahangirnawab1534 alhamdulillah it is one of the talking points

[@gentle846]

Because Anti- Ahmadi are always using the same method.

[@smilesmile6309]

i also see some keyboard warrior while the live stream was goin on claiming "What has Jesus im India to do with death or alive ?" this question has to do with everything, your parrot keeps on claiming jesus died jesus died quran says it blah blah blah, but then at the same time you guys claim that he escaped the death and went to Kashmir. your entire aqeeda ur entire religion dies on this question. you guys are trying so hard to prove that jesus died so you can fit mga to be a spiritual esa.

[@Abd-al-Qadr]

These MGQ lot make me sick to my stomach. In Sha Allah Nabi 3isa alayhi salam will deal with THEM first BEFORE the Christians.

[@lastbravemen]

Mashah Allah brother Yamani smashed Dajjali Razzi

[@chocol8chiptrip]

Surah An Nisa 157: and for their saying, “We have certainly killed the MasīH ‘Īsā the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah”, while in fact they did neither kill him, nor crucify him, but they were deluded by resemblance.Those who disputed in this matter are certainly in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, but they follow whims. It is absolutely certain that they did not kill him, 158. but Allah lifted him towards Himself. Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise. Isa(as) was not killed nor crucified, but Allah lifted him to Himself. So he was raised alive to the Heavens. Allah also says in Surah An- Nisa verse 159: No one will remain from among the People of the Book but will certainly believe in him before he dies, and on the Day of Doom, he shall be a witness against them. Isa (as) has not died. You deny the Quran. You are twisting words to fit your ideology. Same as the Christians, where Isa (as) never says he is God, but the Christians insist on making clear verses ambiguous.

[@TariQ-nx3uz]

"No one will remain"...your interpretation is completely wrong, it doesnt make sense at all since there are millions of people of the book who have died without accepting Issa AS (in the true sense).

[@muhammadyasir6780]

Plz someone tell me Bro Yemeni is alive. Razi acted like he had chocked him last night after coming to Dawah Wise. Please we need to know About Bro Yemeni whareabouts

[@kutsc3792]

Were all still waiting for Razi to produce the hadith

[@vimp6260]

​@johanneshartman4618 No he didn't die for your sins he doesn't love you

[@tanzidaify]

He is very passionate with all the made up stories. He is denying the Quran quite openly.

[@Hebiscus998]

1:18:41 do Qadianis realize that even if Isa alaih assalaam was dead for argument’s sake, that doesn’t make MGA the mahdi? Musailma Al Kathab was probably a more impressive candidate for false prophethood than their false prophet 1:22:54 what is this guy even talking about?! Guys, I feel like Razi’s strategy is to say as many words as possible to confuse people and pretend like he made a valid point. What is he even saying?!

[@Saf_R]

I pray for the ahmadis they are truly cursed

[@thehomelessproject3784]

Definitely they are the colonisers have really done there job

[@muammarraihan9351]

I will try research my own later, but what'd they do to made them have a lot of hatred?

[@thehomelessproject3784]

@@muammarraihan9351 they believe in another prophet and if you don't know that you're either playing ignorant

[@Saf_R]

@@muammarraihan9351 this break off group is the biggest insult to our beloved prophet Muhammad SAW. If you do a deep dive into their belief, you will see they hold thief false prophet in higher esteem than our Prophet SAW. They clearly ignore the teachings of the Quran and accept the bible in order to legitimise their beliefs. They work from a script and every qadiyani will work in a methodical and systematic way to spread this falsehood. Unlike true Islam, not everyone can become a qadiyani. They scrutinise and test you before accepting you.. They are a creation of the colonial British empire and they are banished from many Muslim countries. A lot of qadiyanis from South Asia are joining the Israelli army. They are welcome to join as they are well known enemies of Islam and a product of colonialism, which is what paved the way for Israel. The dots always join

[@TariQ-nx3uz]

​@@muammarraihan9351different understanding of the scriptures that's their sin. Contrary to mainstream muslim beliefs that when Jesus comes back he will offer the jews and Christians only two options either to accept Islam or get killed, Ahmadi Muslim reject this interpretation because it would contradict Quran, since in Quran it is clearly stated that "there is no compulsion in religion".

[@user-zj5kj4tc8e]

Razi got burned. If he doesn't understand this then there's no hope for him

[@Smartiesmmm211]

He went on dawah wise after this and bragged about how he won 😂😂 with his pre prepped debates

[@Abd-al-Qadr]

19:45 Mix in a few olde English terms and nobody will notice the fact that this translation doesn't exist outside of Islamophobic circles!

[@realitycheck7701]

Just the way he speaks is super annoying, very hard to follow his argument

[@vimp6260]

​@johanneshartman4618 no no never keep barking doesn't make what you are saying is true Hey guess what Elijah healed lepers and the blind and raised the dead and is alive on heaven is he god too????

[@tahirahmad9645]

And Jesus says he only knows what happened when alive? Afterwards, Jesus says only Allah knows what happened after his death.

[@DieuetavecnousEmma]

Greatest man in history Had no servants, yet they called him Master. Had no degree, yet they called him Teacher. Had no medicine, yet they called him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today His name is yehucha

[@s.khalid165]

Do you want to see a slippery eel debating ;see Razi how he slip when he is asked to provide any thing in support of his narrative

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

7:34 Hazrat is Arabic for "Hazir Nazir" " All Seeing All Present", these are Attributes of Allah... This is PURE SHIRK 🔥

[@MuhammadAhmad-vc2gk]

‘Hazrat’ is also an urdu word which is used as a honorific title before the name of religious personalities

[@FardeenFirdous]

Dude 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

@@MuhammadAhmad-vc2gk where did it come from , what does it mean.

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

@@FardeenFirdous 3adi call another person by Allah's attributes 🔥🔥🔥

[@Ra3bAbdulRa7man]

@@MuhammadAhmad-vc2gk You changed the religion to make it sound "desi"...despite the meaning being PURE SHIRK 🔥🔥🔥🤔🤨🤔🤨

[@radirandom]

السلام عليكم

[@vimp6260]

​​​@johanneshartman4618 no you eat a dead man's body and drink his blood

[@etwarhussain5406]

I am guessing from all the books behind the Ahmedu chap he is very well educated in Islam. I would advise him to educate himself in Arabic too. His tajweed in Qur'an recitation is terrible.

[@cornflakesmachine300]

This is a debate not a tilawat competition..... there's a strict time limit..... if ur just then you would say the same about al Yemeni and his tajweed. Why not mention it???

[@etwarhussain5406]

@@cornflakesmachine300 Yamini did not make any recitation. Furthermore I have heard the recitation of so called Ahmedia Khliphat. That was even worse.

[@maxmorris4562]

18:05 18:25 24:28 26:37 26:55 27:24 31:52 34:08

[@FaizanAhmad-fj1ur]

2:269

[@Dawah-Quest]

The liar accuses everyone of lying!

[@antajulhaque305]

Islam win, Muslim win Alhamdulillah

[@meersulaiman1]

Razi what a fantastic first class lair you are. You came on Dawahwise and claimed that you finished Yameni in that debate , but it was all opposite, you failed to provide authentic evidence from Quran and hadiths, you were waffling and just beating round the bush. On dawahwise you were also smashed and minced by Adnan and imtiyaz, ultimately you were kickedout by hashim for wasting time. May Allah bring you back to Islam from qadianism.

[@ijasahmed5082]

exactly that's called cunning liar, misleading people but if you know you know

[@meersulaiman1]

@johanneshartman4618 I did and you didn't....

[@meersulaiman1]

@johanneshartman4618 I believe Torah and Gospel which is Ingil were given to Moses and Jesus PBUT, do you have them now?

[@meersulaiman1]

I believe what jesus said, he said I cannot do things by myself but i do what my father commands me, he also said there is only one true God that is father not th son Or the holy Spirit. So i am following and obeying jesus bu you don't.

[@Sherdil20023]

Ghulam Qadiani declared he’s Krishan ( Hindu God ) Rudargopal as mentioned in Geeta ( Ref: Rohani Khazain Volume 20 Page 228 Lecture Sialkot ) At another place he says that he whatever comes out of my mouth is ( معاذاللہ ) Quran So Qadiani believe in a different Quran as Defined by their Guru Ghulam Qadiani It is completely irrelevant to debate with them with reference to Quran You should only debate on Ghulam Qadianis Books Which is nothing but Filth He claims he dreamt he’s God and than when woke up he believe he’s God In another place he says Name of His God is Kala. Kalu and Yalash In another place he attributes a ( معاذاللہُ) physical act to almighty for which he used the term رجولیت he furthermore wrote that it caused him to bleed from his anus for 16 days and no Qadiani will ever answer this question He says that whoever doesn’t believe in him is a bastard he used the term ولدالزنا There is so much filth and if you need any references you can get all references from Khatam e Nabuwat Times and mufti Mubashar Shah who is an expert on all his books

[@boxingmonthly]

Mashallah Yemeni brother

[@KeithWatney-vv2cf]

The Qadiani quoted true statements in pursuit of falsehood its clear his knowledge supersedes his intelligence he also quoted many ayah of Quran that is evidence against him and not in support of his fallacy especially sura 4 ayah 115.

[@ZaimanPlays]

Pre prepared Rebuttal Decided Everything 😂

[@JasenkoOmerovic]

Soul and flesh are the same there connected together as 1 person jesus pbuh will not die twice christ pbuh was saved by Allah from the cross

[@sudan738]

Brother Yemeni has the truth he’s absolutely correct razi is just a better speaker but I can tell he’s sincere

[@adjiedguman67]

Isa was not death on the cross Stop lia. And why you talk the name adnan

[@TariQ-nx3uz]

No one said this...

[@adjiedguman67]

@johanneshartman4618 I choose The profhet Muhammed s.a.w. Hi is The last profhet For all Human's

[@ismatkamran5108]

Is this dajjal(Mirza) was Nabi or Isa AS or imam mehdi or Mujadded This Cult is not Trinity he is Fortinity

[@hamzamaqbool8341]

Brother Yemeni buried Razi right during this debate. Let him be buried in Kashmir...

[@boxingmonthly]

Mashallah brother Yemeni

[@DieuetavecnousEmma]

28/05 06:10] Man: 3: 55 - (Remember) when God said: "O Jesus, surely, I will put an end to your earthly life and raise you up to Me, rid you of those who do not have not believed and put those who follow you above those who do not believe until the Day of Resurrection. Then your return will be to Me, and I will judge between you what you do. you objected. [28/05 06:15] Man: 4: 136 - O you who believe! Be firm in your faith in God, in His Messenger, in the Book which He sent down to His Messenger, and in the Book which He sent down before. Whoever does not believe in God, in His angels, in His Books, in His messengers and in the Last Day, has gone astray, far astray.

[@muhammadyasir6780]

Bani israel were also mostly brown skinned... so r the original Arabs bedoins. What r u saying. Next day someone in Karachi will wake up and say i m brown and the new coming of Messiah.. Also how sure r we that MGA was not the false Messiah? Like Dajjal?

[@Hebiscus998]

We don’t know if Bani Israel were brown skinned. Arabs actually have a range of skin tones, and the prophet pbuh was white/light skinned.

[@Hilton758]

Their prophet Mirza stated in his book ‘’ he turned into Mariam then give birth to Issa and then he was that Issa’’ . Helllooo does Qadyani have any brain??.

[@cornflakesmachine300]

Mashallah razi sb did great. To all my sunni bros and sis ask yourself this. If yemeni smashed razi then dawahwise should do anothet debate on this very same topic to "further humilate ahmdis" but if adnan and co still run away then ask yourself why?

[@Alhamdullillah]

​@johanneshartman4618😂😂😂 The Christian who doesn't have anything to say just shouts their standard nonsense like a person suffering from tourettes syndrome.

[@shazi8016]

Razi just looking for fame the biggest waffle ever

[@OsmanAli-c2y]

Another waffler

[@kutsc3792]

No need to go that far. It's proven that Mirza was one of the dajjal so all these other discussions are waste of time.

[@bk-qr5nx]

Razi came on after debate adnan smashed him so badly razi was caught lying with saying that it was the prophet that had said a certain hadith as imposter dajjali mirza said however when he brought a hadith it wasn't qala rasool😅 . I feal sorry for him really he just wants to be famous. Brother imitiaz will ahhilated him . Adnan isnot that much educated in ahamddiyat however the way this brother cooks them for dinner is amazing

[@AdilRafiqueChohdary]

Tawafa and khallat means death and Rafa means uplifting. so after Hazrat isa death his body uplifted by God .

[@DieuetavecnousEmma]

Matthew 24:5 In-Context 4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Messiah,' and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.

[@muslim5067]

Razi actually quoted Hadith Bukhari 6504 as if it has the same meaning as surah 43 verse 61. " Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "I have been sent and the Hour (is at hand) as these two (fingers). This hadith does not have the same meaning as surah 43 verse 61 ''And indeed, Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path." This is a prophecy that still has to happen. Eesa came before Muhammad SAW and Allah gives us this prophecy in the book that was revealed to Muhammad SAW. Likewise a prophecy was made to Eesa Alayhisalaam about the coming of Muhammad SAW. We know from Hadith about the second coming of Eesa , the son of Maryam so the Hadith is backed up by the Quran. In other words when Eesa comes, the day of Qiyaamah will be upon us. Eesa AS will be a sign that we are at the end of times NOT close to the end of times as we all see the signs of Qiyaamah are coming to pass one by one . But Allah says Eesa WILL BE KNOWLEDGE of the Hour. .The verse is a prophecy in the future tense , meaning it must still happen and Eesa's second coming is one of the major signs of Qiyaamah. Eesa AS must still come and everyone from the People of the Book WILL BELIEVE in him before Eesa 's death or before Their own death as there are 2 interpretations. 1)It could mean that the People of the Book will come to their senses when Eesa Alayhisalaam dies.OR 2) When the People of the Book will believe in Eesa before they die . Then it would be too late. Surah 4 verse 159 "Every one of the People of the Book will definitely believe in him before his death. And on the Day of Judgment Jesus will be a witness against them." Ahmadis are fond to argue that EesaAS already died because Allah says that he will be a witness against the People who called him God and son of God etc. Surah 5:117 "I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: “Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things." Surah 5 verse 117 refers to the Day of resurrection when every prophet will be at witness against his people. Eesa Alayhisalaam will be a witness against those whom he left behind before Allah raised him to Himself(3 verse 55) and also to those whom he left behind at his second coming as he will die and people will be left behind. Interestingly, the verse says, "When I was among them" and NOT "When I was alive". Mention] when Allāh said, "O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify [i.e., free] you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allāh alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.*. ALLAH SWT clearly says He will take Eesa, raise Eesa to Himself, purify Him and then Allah says: "THEN TO ME IS YOUR RETURN". According to Ahmadis the translation is not TAKE YOU but CAUSE YOU TO DIE. If the Ahmadi narrative is correct why would Allah say ,"THEN To Me is Your Return". Ambigiuos words in the Quran is chosen by Allah in His infinite wisdom. Tawafaitani could mean Take in Full and it could mean Death. And we find it applies to Both Scenarios in the case of Eesa Alayhisalaam. If prophet Muhammad SAW is going to repeat Eesa Alayhisalaam's words on judgment day ,then the meaning of Death applies because he came once and passed away. Allah could have used words that mean Death only, like 'Maut' and he did not. Allah knows best.

[@regularpaul8142]

Rumzi have to work on his moderation. You have to be more forceful brother. We need hamza.

[@realislam202]

You can say Aslamoalikum to non Muslims so its not wrong to say Aslamoalikum to Ahmedi who believe that there is one God worthy of worship but consider Mirza ghulam as prophet/Messenger which is wrong, prophet Muhammad pbuh is last and final messenger of God until day of judgment.