DEBATE: Should Man United SACK Ten Hag?

[@glen6743]

I speak unanimously for fans of the other 19 teams. Erik in. The boys a genius.

[@lolo.theartist]

10 more years of ETH

[@aldenpadilla1773]

Nah. Sacking managers every season won't solve their problem.

[@rmelo2382]

@@aldenpadilla1773its his 3rd season you cant see any progression in the style of play or players . what good would keeping him do for utd ?

[@LordTrevis]

Facts💯

[@Benedict1313]

⁠@@rmelo2382you can it’s just not consistent which is a different issue entirely

[@tejusjuvekar5313]

Rory talking about Chelsea: 🤡 Rory talking about other clubs:💡🧠

[@S0L12D3]

😂 he hypes Arsenal a lot and I genuinely can’t tell if he’s bantering us or serious

[@sloppygoo]

@@S0L12D3he’s definitely being serious I get no sarcastic vibe you’re a good team 🤷‍♀️

[@S0L12D3]

@@sloppygoo we definitely are a good team but he goes nuts at times lol

[@THERAPYBLACKGENIUS]

You must be drunk to think this man ever sounds smart!! Drunk or dumb which one is it?!

[@THERAPYBLACKGENIUS]

@@Antonio-hb8rd lol these lot are all just wild bro!!!

[@MethGoldblum]

“He needs to have a European Cup” Welcome to Manchester United Roberto Di Matteo!

[@niccovarela2207]

I was thinking the exact same thing the moment he said that

[@tomhodson597]

Better than Conte, Arteta & Emery accordingly to Rory's infallible logic

[@amadobravado9035]

"He needs to have a European cup, because we can't just have history repeating itself." Man Utd's history of European cup winners: Van Gaal Mourinho

[@daelynjonathan4855]

@@amadobravado9035 exactly its a horror take, We have had 2 managers that have won in Europe and they have done nothing for us beside Mou with Europa, and still then in PL they flopped hard

[@peterlegg2394]

Meh, I wouldn't mind LVG or Mourinho compared to Ten Hag. Their management styles weren't perfect, but at least they did better in the Premier League and in Europe than Ten Hag. A title challenge in the foreseeable future might be too much to ask, but I do think it's possible to get an experienced manager who can get us into the top 4-5 consistently. I do agree that focusing solely on if a manager has won a European Cup is an incredibly myopic way to recruit someone.

[@christopherrandell6175]

They should have sacked him in the summer. The club clearly weren't behind him.

[@Jack-gs4fi]

I think they're being wary of how it went with Chelsea's new owners, if you bring in your own guy and he flops (Potter) it looks terribly, they're gonna wait until the best candidate is available, which isn't now

[@tomzknight7412]

@@Jack-gs4fi Regardless of there not being much managerial talent available right now, if they clearly didn't think he was the right man, why did they let him spend another £150m on players who the next manager might not even want? Not to mention it was disrespectful to ETH in the first place, they should've got rid of him and just appointed a caretaker until they got their man imo.

[@alexbrown975]

The signings are all his players. If he can't get a tune out of them, then he has to go.

[@mikeywallis4085]

@@Jack-gs4fi Which is fine if the manager in charge is keeping you stable but right now they genuinely look like they're getting worse. They're literally in 14th place lol.

[@GennySavastone]

Besides the amount of cash he's spent on his players 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@zinomorff]

As a United fan of 50 years, other than when they went down in 74, this period is by far the most depressing I have experienced. I can't even stomach watching them for free.

[@uvongcukana5440]

You started watching United the year they got relegated?

[@colinpark1214]

I started supporting United 73/74 season when they were relegated Once you choose your team it's for life 💯

[@uvongcukana5440]

@@colinpark1214 💯

[@UTDATL]

@@colinpark1214GGMU I’m sure we’ll be back to glory 🙏🏻

[@zinomorff]

1970.​@@uvongcukana5440

[@Kington357]

Every manager has struggled with man united since alex even mourinho struggled So therefore the manager is not the problem the club the players the higher ups are the issue So changing ten hag will make zero difference it's just rinse and repeat a year and a half later that manger will get sacked or people will be saying he should get sacked

[@rebekah4679]

Or maybe they haven't found the right manager. The managers after Sir Alex may have all not been the right ones. Can't make conclusions based off of the past managers. Our issues currently have a lot to do with management. The manager is playing people like Bruno because he wants to.

[@mcfcaguerooo5697]

“A point at villa is not a bad result” spoken like a true mid table fan.

[@fuxzor]

To me that's worse then losing by a goal. 😕 if you lose 2-1 atleast you can say you were in it. 0-0 just feels like a dumpster fire.

[@BezzyyBezz]

when buvey isnt there to troll, actual good conversation :)

[@TheOutrageousTake-ki2oi]

Exactly hes been making the show unwatchable recently

[@sloppygoo]

He makes the show more entertaining and it’s about entertainment not high level analysis. Idk why football KZbin comments are so toxic

[@TheOutrageousTake-ki2oi]

@sloppygoo its not toxicity. Buvey is funny and entertaining but he way overdoes it sometimes. And sometimes I just want to hear a rational discussion about football without a troll trying to wind everyone up

[@hifyn]

Nah Buveys S tier

[@Yob365]

lol The reason i stopped watching. Like you cannot have a serious convo with Buvey, he does not know how to read the room.

[@MJI409]

NO DEBATE GIVE HIM A LIFE TIME CONTRACT 😂😂🗣️🔥🔥🙏🏼

[@nmk5003]

This myth that there were no managers this summer is still being perpetuated, is ridiculous. The fact is the Man Utd board seems unable to get rid of a manager that they don't believe is the future of the club.

[@JorgeF69]

Seb hoenes was looking for a big job. Watch out for him next big manager in Europe

[@vishalreddy1469]

My top choices in the summer would’ve been Poch or Flick. Poch has shown he can improve players and results in the PL. Flick boasts a really high win percentage and plays exciting football. I’m so upset that they chose not to part with him in the Summer.

[@robinsontodd79]

TEN HAG SHOULD STAY AT UNITED FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE

[@stennilsen9584]

haha. Hope he stays for many years

[@juliewatson3966]

Totally agree, lovely bloke.

[@chiml7]

Actually agree with Rory. Think they have to back Ten Hag until at least the new year. Making a change this quickly after you just gave him the 1 year extension will immediately make the fans question the new ownership's competence, especially after claiming they performed a comprehensive "review" in the summer. Then you gave him a lot of money to spend. Definitely disagree with the Tuchel bit though lol

[@Wondersoc]

On the words of a wise bald man…It’s time to go!

[@vikalpbhardwaj4243]

Claude fc

[@GeorgeRobbo-cp5ny]

Claude what a legend rip❤

[@NomadJoe0323]

Never heard Rory curse before . Suggesting Potter for the United job caused it 😂

[@jackkelly6251]

Give him until the end of the season, and if there isn't significant signs of improvement by then and they are still playing with no identity then he MUST be sacked

[@itskwaku]

If they don’t United are gonna fight for relegation

[@Deathmare235]

Like they won’t fight relegation otherwise

[@ANGELOFDARKification]

He's gotten worse the more he's signed the players he's wanted. We looked solid defensively and could grind out results in our 1st season under him. More money has been spent on players Ten Hag wanted and he benched them in a do or die game 😂

[@chrispalmer7893]

Potter should take the job if offered. Worst case he'll make enough to not need another job, but if he fails he can say well look at who else has failed there. It's an enormous job, but it's basically a free hit; you can blame the players you haven't bought (this is partly why ETH's reaching his crisis point; he can't make that argument anymore) and the owners / INEOS.

[@KL24888]

Makes sense Miles been hired as he makes Rory and Adam sound reasonable

[@YourDestinyGuide]

As a liverppol fan im honestly sitting here laughing while saying yea he should keep the job, but if i was to answer seriously then of course he should be sacked. He should have been gone last year. He has been in the job for 2 and a half years now with absolutely no progress. He has spent 100s of millions on players that he knows and still uses the excuse that he cant use his style of play with the players he has, Which is absolutely ridicolous. We have seen slot come in and in about 3 games showcase his style of play and even ange at spurs came in and in a similar timeframe showed his style. Bald hag then just scapegoats a player a season (ronaldo and sancho) and blames it all on them even though its his fault. Hes an awful manager with no ideas.

[@sage_3264]

The amount of money does not matter because no matter how much he's spent when he came in, he was not allowed to sell the players that does not fit his system. Players that, mind you have been in the teams of the past failed managers because even with the new ownership, the Glazers still own majority of the club and they see the club as a PR project and are not interested in winning titles. People are always saying when new players sign to United they play good in the beginning and just lose form and I think that stems from well established players in that dressing room not respecting the shirt they play for and setting a bad example for the newer players. It is also very unfair to compare Slot and Ten Hag because Slot inherited a well oiled machine at Liverpool where as United's situation is in a far more dire state. I honestly don't even care if they sack him because when that new manger shows up he's still gonna be stuck with the problems that the last 5+ managers had before him and you'll just spout out the same nonsense that the press will release next time. I just think its stupid to scrap what he's built after 2 years because we spent all that money on players that fit his system and if you want to admit it or not he has produced results when the pressure was high. That alone showcases that he's not " an awful manager with no Ideas". Reading your takes just shows you get all your information from comment sections and Press headlines, please do your research before speaking out of your ass about another club.

[@YourDestinyGuide]

@@sage_3264 Every single point i just made is a literal fact? so how am i spouting nonsense? Has he spent 100s of millions on players? yes. Has ten hag himself said he cant implement a style of play because of the players? yes, Even though he has a mixture of great youth players and experienced players. Managers in the lower league can form a style of play with what they have but he cant with that squad? I also gave a ange tottenham comparison, where he showed his style within a few games and many other managers not even with the squad have done the same. Ten hag hasnt shown one in two years. Did ten hag scapegoat ronaldo and say every failure was on him? yes. Did he do the same with sancho? yes. The last point of mine is an opinion sure, but to me when a manager has shown no style or no change of play or literally anything in 2 fucking years then yes imo he is out of ideas and to me is a bad manager to make style excuses and every other point i just made with a squad like that. So apart from my opinion on the last point please tell me where i spouted bullshit. Also apart from 2 cups that he loves to bring up please tell me where he has clutched? or what he has built in his time? The club is no better off than when he got there and if u call finishing 8th and currently being 14th as clutch then god damn united standards have dropped.

[@sage_3264]

@@YourDestinyGuide Right, lets get this Ronaldo and Sancho BS straight. Show me, in quotes, where Ten Hag blames every single failure on Ronaldo. CR simply did not fit the system ETH wanted to play. Yes he scored goals, yes he had a great relationship with the dressing room but the way he conducted himself his time at the club was unacceptable. Lashing out when he got subbed off/when he didn't start/walking off the pitch while the game was on etc. Even I understand why he felt the way he did coming from the Fergie era and seeing how the club is run now, but that still doesn't excuse the way he undermined the manager. What kind of example is that setting to the younger players in the dressing room? He was understandably angry but they way he went about it was completely wrong. Fact of the matter is if it where any other manger and player, the situation would've blown over in a week but because of the caliber of player and club you expect special treatment. ETH made a statement when he left Sancho out of the squad after playing him for the majority of games in preseason. He set a standard that he upheld all his players too and instead of accepting that he was not in form and working harder, Sancho decided to play victim and turn his back on the manager. There in lies the problem at United, players that think they're bigger than the shirt they play for. Do you seriously think someone can thrive in this environment? Every time ETH tried to develop values, standards and style of play within the club he is stabbed in the back by the players and let down by the club. That's why your silly little comparisons to other managers and clubs HAVE NO VALUE because even in lower leagues the manager is still allowed to buy and sell ANY of the players HE WANTS and is backed by the club 100%. Imagine you're building a car, buying every correct part and someone comes along and tells you "Run it with a Moped engine" to you think you're gonna make it out the driveway? This is the Premier league if 1 player does not fit the system the whole team is fucked, that's why it is so important for a manager starting a new project to have complete freedom. "Where else has he clutched?" Literally last week drawing against Porto and Villa with his job on the line, 10 men and no proper LB on the pitch in both fucking games, with 2 different styles of play mind you, after having the worst performance I've seen from a United side the week before. Does the man need to turn water into wine before you give him his flowers ffs? The team does not have a distinctive style of play because HE DOES NOT HAVE THE SQUAD HE WANTS, that's why our style of play changes every 2 - 3 games to cater to our glaring weaknesses every week. The Manager alone is not going to make us play title contending football because it is not the only factor in play, so why sack him now in the middle of the season, having no quality candidates and having already invested into his team just to scrap it and give the mess to the next manager? You'll be saying the same shit about the next manger in a years time if they decide to sack baldy anyway so idk why I'm wasting my time. It's true what they say - Hated, Adored, never Ignored.

[@YourDestinyGuide]

@@sage_3264 You know what im not even getting further into the ronaldo and sancho shit because its pointless. I do honestly find it quite funny though that the examples you have just given me for him clutching is a 3-3 draw to porto in which u were up 2-0? also a boring ass 0-0 with aston villa. Like come the hell on man. You're man utd, you shouldnt be happy with draws and being 14th in the bloody league and still defending the guy like he's doing well. Also for more than half the time he has been there you guys havent even had a sporting director? So he was probably the one controlling most of if not all of the transfers, which in my opinion is pretty apparent and likely with the amount of players from the dutch league or players he has worked with in the past coming to the club. So to me i really dont understand how he cant create a style for his team when it seems like from an outside perspective he has gotten alot of the players he has asked for. I understand where you're coming from with the why sack him now stuff because the windows gone, hes bought more players and now the season has started. He should have been sacked in the summer if at any point to give that new manager a window to buy his players etc. Imo though i would still sack him and just start that change as soon as possible. This season realistically for you guys unless something drastic happens is just gonna be another mid table finish again anyways so why waste that time? Change it now and start fresh as soon as possible and then hopefully you guys get a manager in that steadies the ship and then starts to progress a little because currently i cannot see any progress being made under ten hag. Answer me genuinely. Can u see any progress currently being made at manchester united?

[@sage_3264]

@@YourDestinyGuide I literally just explained the same points you are bringing up in my earlier reply. The players he wants to use won't work in the system because there are still players in that team that can't play the style of play he wants to implement. Even if he has full a starting 11 of players that he wants to work with he is still going to be forced to use the players that just can't play the system because of injuries, form, squad rotation etc. so saying he got some of the players he wanted means nothing. Just cause we don't have a sporting director doesn't mean that Ten Hag is in charge of the transfers, he consults with his advisors gives a list to the board and they decide who they want to buy, that's why he still only has SOME of the players he needs. Also you're not acknowledging or challenging the multiple other reasons Iisted as to why he is "failing" at United and you're again bringing it back to "Well he has some of the players so why isn't he producing results?", when I explained why. Maybe start listing off some answers to those problems instead of just targeting the manager. I know where you stand on the manager but if you're so qualified to speak on United please explain how we fix those problems with the new manager coming in? We can't start from scratch BECAUSE THE MANAGER WILL NOT HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO SO, JUST LIKE THE MANAGER BEFORE HIM AND THE ONE BEFORE THAT. Last summer we kept Ten Hag because there where no good options to replace him with and we didn't have the money to get an "Elite manager" from a different club. Please tell me how has that situation changed from last summer to now? All that "You're United, you should have higher standards" bs is so stupid because we haven't been the great Manchester United since Fergie left. That's the reality. As far as Ten Hags progress it's far more than results, he is trying to restore the identity back into United but he doesn't truly understand what that is yet and that will only come with time. He has also brought in and developed a squad of young players into the first team. Maybe he isn't the man for the Job as far as winning titles is concerned but he's a step we have to take if we really want to start healing the club because he is trying to put back the pride in the badge of the shirts these players play for and that's something people that aren't United fans can't see. That's why I advise you to do your research.

[@soton5teve]

Hold up, we ain't done Russell Martin yet!

[@mikeywallis4085]

I think the ideal for United would be Tuchel on a short term contract, like this + next season. Not sure I see him going for that though.

[@Deathmare235]

They’ve been doing that the entire time after Ferguson

[@jp92hellraiser]

That’s a fair point, would any top coach even want to go to Utd atm? Seems like a poisoned chalice those players have thrown a few managers under the bus

[@brianswarbrigg1384]

how can you hate a manger for 18 months and say he’s gone no matter what after 18 months , makes no sense and would never happen

[@taylena1235]

This season is a write off already but for me it's like ratclif said when he came in I would rather walk to a right decision then run to a wrong so I will wait till right man is available

[@harith0silver751]

Eth already done his best and its still land result(2 cup) so pretty much he still do good... Its been 3 years still have alot of problem meaning nothing he can do in the future would help soo for ETH future job i think its better for him to be sacked

[@InfinitePotato]

Give him until he stops winning trophies.

[@thouwilson]

You guys should do a premier league BIG GAMES XI, so a team of players who turn up on the big stage. So these may not be the best players in their position, but you know they'll bring that team to victory on those nights!

[@Zekkou]

The issue isn’t going to be the manager that comes in it will be if the board and fans will be ok with the new manager selling players

[@yazzur69]

I would get him out ASAP. He's genuine shit. The team dont look interested. He doesnt look interested. I would get him out and then work on getting the whole bunch of shitters out in the summer

[@Holdtight920]

He honestly looks like he doesn't give a single shite, everytime I see him he's just sat on the bench giving a little headshake

[@thelegendthatischels]

He's waiting for that sweeeet 17 million pay off , he's laughing either way.

[@richardsutherland1645]

We've been saying that for over a decade.. so we get him out.. then what? More of the same.. replace the team? More of the same.. If I was a manager I'd be staying as far away from the United job as possible.. unless I was gunna get a massive pay day cause united will destroy your reputation

[@yazzur69]

@@richardsutherland1645 Unfortunately, the results speak for themselves. Theyve been bad for 2 years. But yeah, just so we dont sack anymore managers, lets write off another season completely because next year Ten Hag will turn this around?

[@LA-ue2ph]

not a good move to sack a manager without a viable replacement in mind, this season should be about silverware and ETH is able to deliver that then he can leave in the summer, the window to sack him is gone, bad decision-making from the owners

[@Shahanshah-ys1bi]

so southgate or tuchel is solution ? Southgates never won a trophy in English football and actually got teams regenerated and Tuchel been sacked by Multiple top clubs in recent years . Question is were do United REALISTICALLY see rhemselves this season / Next 3 seasons and then 5 years with new stadium .Fergie was incharge foe 20 Years + pep been at city for 8 Years / Klopp was at Liverpool for 8 years . Take time to build a Winning team .Its like Marriage not fling .

[@milak6330]

The only way Man Utd change is if the next manager is allowed to get rid of whoever they want. If that doesn’t happen then it’ll be the same thing over and over again

[@nogovi2686]

Any point is a bad point when you’re 14th as united

[@coldzaox]

"there are no good managers available" there are quite a few and Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern and Barcelona literally appointed some this summer i mean just an incredibly ignorant opinon

[@TimOgutu-rq3ly]

The only manager in the world that can sort Manu is the one that you cannot get and that is Pep.

[@trxgon]

I genuinely think he would fail at United😂

[@TheKen197]

The problem is whoever they get it aint Guardiola, even if they got Pep it would take him 3 years to sort the team out. When was the last time Man Utd bought a Top player, i cant remember

[@Milo.r97]

there's literally about 5 managers around atm that have won a ucl, di matteo being one

[@carthaok3360]

I can't see any established manager take the United job. They have ridiculous expectaions with a team plagued with problems. I think they would either go with someone who had a big job with not so good results, and wants to prove himself, or someone who had done a really solid job with some smaller club.

[@AlexM-mi7kt]

Ride the storm!!!!!

[@JamesHussain82]

The 13 year storm

[@paulconnolly8145]

Ridin by the storm

[@cubad14]

Finally - Ride the storm for now!

[@jimhuf8102]

As not a United fan I can say with no bias, Ten Hag has to stay, he is a generational talent. The only man worthy of the United job is Southgate

[@Weiwan4564]

Miles has some of the worst football opinions I’ve ever heard, how is he getting exposure Idk

[@fuxzor]

Daniel Ricciardo is available. Would love to see him manage man utd. They could do a netflix special on him trying to go from being a racecar driver to a manager of a small club in the PL. Netflix could call the series "Dive to Survive" 😂

[@georgebiouss1253]

Max Allegri!!! He knows how to rebuild a club to its former glories.

[@timmy5876]

i think take a month to access literally EVERY option then just bring in the one they think will fit best on a 18 month contract because worse case scenario they sack them at the end of this season and get someone else cus we know ten hag isn’t good enough so roll the dice with anyone

[@shamoyalurfan99]

There’s only one man who can bring United back, play great football, play the United way and that man is Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

[@jakedodd1301]

The fact no United fan is mentioning Xavi is mind boggling

[@civildiscourse7626]

The board caved in to fan pressure and kept him after an fa cup win. Those same fans are mad at the board for keeping him 😂

[@highlordfurer]

There is no original thought on the topic of manager searches on the panel.It's just hire someone who won a major title.Ferguson and Arteta would have never been hired by this panel.

[@dkelli6020]

Stick with TH til the end of the season. Gives time for them to properly sort out his replacement if need be. If he turns it around, great keep him. We're all outside noise. The board need to get the manager, coaches and players in a meeting and lay down the law and get this mess sorted.

[@RagnarHoff]

Ten Hag has done alot in terms of getting the dressing room back. The toxicity is gone. The major problem now is that Ten Hag doesn't improve his tactical game and the players look depressed because of it. He has nothing more to bring unless he hire a tactical coach to work alongside him.

[@tonyfreeman3800]

As a United fan I want him to stay. Two reasons; 1) he’s won two trophies and 2) he has to be given time to develop the youngsters. Fergie was given time and it took him longer to win anything.

[@paulyrides11]

Anyone noticed how that Adam just doesn’t listen to anyone else. Rory literally asks questions and he is just starts name dropping new managers

[@calvinang1]

Yeah, I have noticed he is the same across all group discussions he has ever been featured in YT for some time now. It's like he is there physically, but his mind is elsewhere, therefore lacking the ability to have a proper conversation. Might be mental health issues. Hopefully, he is looking into it.

[@Deathmare235]

Yeah cause they’re all just yapping

[@Deathmare235]

@@calvinang1too much united

[@timmy5876]

Liverpool found slot when no one had ever heard of him in england, why can’t united do the same? liverpool chose the play style over the manager in a way cus we had players that suited a certain style, united have some players with world class potential if we’re being honest but they need a manager who fits the play style of them all otherwise a new manager will come in and have to sign another load of players

[@wg14godspeed2000]

Rory asked for Tuchel to be sacked! Now he is touting him as the best option for United

[@stuart1767]

You have to have a world class manager available, then they have to be willing to work with that United squad. There aren't many who will do that. I think INEOS would rather stick with Ten Hag and wait for their person to become available rather than risk a change.

[@michaeldawson3223]

Saying Graham Potter shouldn’t take the Manchester United job for his own personal interest doesn’t understand money

[@girltal.k]

As a liverpool fan ,tuchel is clearly the option id want if i was a mufc fan.

[@mrpotato442]

Rory "Sack The Manager " Jennings

[@sloppygoo]

Holy crap Rory was actually dropping FACTS and hot takes all video who is this guy

[@sihl3n]

If he leaves what happens to the Dutch League players he signed ? And Rory ? Man U had Jose, Van Gal....what more Europen Cup cv do you want.

[@kiliantp]

I read a rumour that they will make a move for Alonso next year, pure speculation though. Van Nistelrooy will probably be interim at some point this season when it becomes untenable to leave Ten Hag in the job.

[@cameronwilson7431]

Reckon Alonso’s link to Liverpool is too strong tho? Or would this be irrelevant?

[@kiliantp]

@@cameronwilson7431 Possibly, and as a Liverpool fan myself I certainly don't want to see it happen. If it's remotely true at all, he may be thinking more about the potential for the whole thing to be a poisoned chalice that will damage his very promising managerial career.

[@cameronwilson7431]

@@kiliantp Agreed, think he’ll have his eyes on the Madrid job foremost. Think he’d be No.1 for me for United to go for but whether he’d want us is another thing. Time will tell

[@Gameandrelaxnz]

Never thought I would here a udt fan say a point away to villa is a good result

[@1Gwakie]

I Really dont understand why Poch is not in the Conversation? The disrespect is uncanny.

[@kwanlinus6999]

They fear Ruud being Ole 2.0, yet somehow wanted a European Trophy Manager, the same mentality that brought Mourinho in Why are people, especially Man Utd fans, some hypocritical about themselves?

[@happyone7274]

certainly 14 Hag is a flop

[@CB-lw7ty]

You can't give Ruud the job long term already, you'll basically find yourself in another Ole situation.

[@puffin7285]

We were both shit. If the game ends and Johnny Evans is MOTM both team were abysmal

[@felipegonzalez7972]

Be patient, stop looking for a quick fix. Any manager would struggle with the current state of the club. There are many small but important details we as fans don't have access to (locker room tension for example). Add the pressure and nonsense from the media (including fan channels) in there as a factor that feeds the fans' impatience. EtH is a stoic figure and he warned the fans that the team was not ready. I personally still back Erik 100% because he has shown glimpses of tactical brilliance working with bratty and spoiled players. Remember SAF took some years to get rolling. He was a once in a lifetime manager, but if he was sacked in his first years at United, we would have never considered him a genius. Only time will tell, but I hope Erik turns things around by the end of the season and gives us some new magical moments to hang on to.

[@johndirom8999]

If United lose the next 2 games: home to a flying Brentford team and away to West Ham - both of which are possible - United could be in 16th/17th position. Their stats would be: Played 9, Won 2, Drawn 2, LOST 5! At this point, any unemployed manager (Tuchel, Xavi, Allegri, Sérgio Conceição, Potter (NOT Southgate) would be better than 10Hag. Are we going to bin another EPL campaign? Lose the chance of CL football for another year, and the £50 million-ish that comes with it? Are we going to be in a relegation fight; from what i see a lot of the teams around us are playing like teams and are better than us. If you have gangrene in your foot, you don't leave it to see if it will get better on its own; you know it won't. You cut off the foot to save the leg, and the body. Well, maybe this analogy is hyperbolic, but JUST GET RID!

[@yessi1585]

Why can’t Rory name the proven managers? It’s easy to say he wants proven managers but can’t name any names?

[@bartvandeperck90]

They have this debate 4 times every season.

[@Braden.Campos]

I think there needs to be more criticism of the players. There has been times when Ten Hag gets his tactics wrong 100% however we keep going thru the same shit every 2-3 years. A new mangaer comes in players start good then a few months later they don't preform well and the cycle repeats itself. In Ten Hag's first season he over achieved, second season we had endless injuries and played horrendously. This season there has been glimspes of what we can do but we aren't scoring goals. I think we should give him til Christmas if we haven't improved by then he's got to go.

[@TightLinesNI]

Some may think it's odd, but I'd say if you've won one of the top leagues, I'd have your CV higher than someone with a Champions league under their belt. You get found out over a league season. You can get lucky in a cup comp.

[@addorsubtract650]

Theres no way to get lucky to win the champions league. U can get lucky to win an FA cup though

[@TightLinesNI]

And the difference is what? Course you're fishing, but you need a better hook than a logical fallacy ya muppet.

[@Fabbydabby1]

Ten hag’s contract is worth 17 million pounds right now & that is why he will not get sacked right now

[@BlueBloodPenn]

A poor draw against Villa and he goes from must sack to back for 4 months? Recency bias much?

[@bigkubz6003]

As much as United fans want Ten Haag gone, this video nails the issue, what next? The feeling now is identical to Mourinho, and the options are pretty much the same. An Interim Coach who is not an improvement on the current manager but will boost morale at the club for x amount of games, or a gamble on another above average coach, hoping that he will somehow do better? Man United are a mess, and as big of a club as they are, no world class coach will want to undertake the job unless they are desperate.

[@NeilLewis77]

Just do what Chelsea, Bayern and Liverpool just did. Hire a new good young manager. If it doesn't work then sack him. You don't see Chelsea, Bayern, Liverpool, Barca, juve, complaining that there's no coaches to hire. They just picked the best one they could find and hired him. United are the only club that claim there's no managers available, while every other club just sacks their manager if it's going badly.

[@ArthurRoss-r9r]

I would like to know the logic to keeping him. Two draws this week; one where, yet again, we blew a 2 goal lead and one against a team with injuries and whose squad is stretched due to CL commitments. He was, massively, supported in the summer, again. He has, massively, failed in yet another transfer window. RvN may make caretaker manager but is he an easy choice or the correct choice? Tuchel, Inzaghe, Zidane Potter, Southgate (heaven forbid). Bring back Carrick. Undefeated in his, albeit brief tenure of 3 games. More importantly, has left and honed his skills in Middlesbrough, dealt with a poor start, last season, knows and loves United, played under the greatest manager of all time. I fail to understand why he isn't, at least, in the conversation.

[@oswaldomichel1844]

Who won an european cup? Mourinho right? Van Gaal? No way Ancelotti or Klopp go this shithole. Tuchel is a complete mess. Rory has the capacity to say utter shit with so much confidence.

[@StudioSBA]

All roads lead back to Ten Hag I can't see any of the aforementioned mentioned managers doing a better job then him

[@alexbrown975]

See how he does with the easy fixtures after the international break. If they are still garbage, then he sacks himself.

[@LachlanMurray-q2w]

Man united need a complete reset, new players, new manager and a new structure. It’s so tough to say that the manager would fix it all because I think most of the players just aren’t up to the task; but there is this romanticism with man united being warriors because sir Alex could get the best out of players for years. One of the best and now people think it’s the ethos and built into the club; no it was the best manager to ever do it. This is coming from an Arsenal fan fyi

[@ulfanfinneriksen4643]

ETH should definetely get the rest of the season. It's only 7 games in.

[@michaelblake2209]

Funny thing is Potter had a better start at Chelsea than Maresca has.

[@Deathmare235]

Wdym

[@UtdGLORYtv]

250/1 for United to get relegated… far better sides have gone down. If we don’t change our current trajectory and FAST, we will inevitably be pulled into a scrap at the bottom of the league.

[@ghostly1178]

Tuchel can't hack pressure, chelsea was a fluke, new manger vibes, right place, right time. If you're looking for consistency, think about that following season. At the same time, his media temperament is awful. He can't take the critiques or ex-players comments, without it affecting him. Bad performances start as soon as he starts to feel pressurised, case, and point Bayern. This is man united the most pressurising club, no way jose does he last under United.

[@MILLERA12345]

The answer is Mourinho. Bring him back. Give him the freedom to sell and buy whoever he wants.

[@connorsconey]

Once Man Utd fans finally see reality and see where their club is at, they’ll realise that Southgate or Graham Potter is around the correct level for them at this moment. No Tuchel for you 😅

[@jg5520]

Rory’s obsession with European pedigree is ridiculous. Like that matters in the prem.

[@richdennis7046]

I would not have tuchel at United if he asked to do it for free.

[@kieranheneghan4132]

There is no one suitable who is available to replace Ten Haag. Ancelotti should have replaced Fergie in the first place and the mad mess going on now would not exist

[@dinbachok6424]

Funny how the whole football community baffled on how to fix man united. Changed everything its still the same.

[@warwickchan3305]

They had van gaal and mourinho…. Ten hag won the Dutch league. There are no easy answers

[@andreycastellanos3130]

I think we have to bring in Tuchel or wait until the end of the season

[@S0L12D3]

You know it’s really really bad when even rival fans are ashamed of how terrible united is playing….. but somehow has the balls to say that he won a trophy so he had a good season🤦🏻‍♂️ is United a complete joke at this point??

[@somhunt5446]

Let the boy stay, plenty of his own records to break yet.

[@zubz1771]

How is this even a debate

[@rykhan5815]

Hoilund got 16 goals in his first season

[@cameronwilson7431]

Would Xabi Alonso at the end of the season be a shout? Or is the Liverpool link too heavy… genuine question?

[@kh7688]

"Surely, the right man is available if the wrong man is in the job" Ummm...no. That would just mean another wrong man, until the right man is available. Why bring in someone in the interim, if the plan is to oust him when the right man becomes available? You might as well stick to the devil you know. We did the exact same thing with Rangnick after Ole and though not all his fault. He had a worse record than Ole was predicted to have. I fear that if we follow Rory's not so logical take, history will repeat itself.

[@teddyeastside8051]

Tuchel isn’t a good manager though, he’ll have a bump because he’ll go more defensive and it’ll suit the players but it’ll just go back to being shit.

[@HandsUpforThePanther]

Are y'all forgetting that Xavi exists? Won a league title with Barcelona and speaks English. He also definitely a clear style of play

[@ashwinnair6351]

Please don’t ruin his career

[@HandsUpforThePanther]

@@ashwinnair6351 as if it matters. What should I care about such a lackluster statement. That doesn't mean anything