DEBUNKED! - The WORST CASTLE VIDEO I've ever seen

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[@kingmasterlord]

fireplace is literally the first thing you invent after fire

[@thedorklaird9562]

Arguably, the first place a fire was invented was the first fireplace.

[@arat2376]

Grug no like burn. Grug put rock around burniebrighthurtie thing. Grug happy.

[@shadowlessxpan]

“Where should I place this fire…” 😂

[@Hybris51129]

@@arat2376 Mongo like Grug idea. Mongo hate black and grey cloud from burning thing. Take hollow log and put over burning thing so cloud goes away from Mongo's eyes. Mongo call it... Cloud log.

[@multitimmytiger2]

​​​@@thedorklaird9562 then you could also argue that the fireplace was invented before fire.

[@RilaAudio]

Castles obviously weren't a thing until after Dwayne "the Rock" invented stone.

[@skibidi.G]

THIS so much 🎉

[@johnbarr9857]

lol

[@vampirecount3880]

loool

[@Halo_Legend]

​@@skibidi.G"tHiS" 🤡🤡🤡

[@verhalenvrouwe]

Of course! I thought that was common knowledge.

[@MrRaposaum]

Sadly it's not only misinformed. It is misinforming.

[@Irish_Enderman]

We can't say that for sure

[@ccelik97]

It's *disinformation.* Specifically, *disinformation in the name of maybe making a buck or two on the side, off of the others' ignorance & illiteracy.*

[@markalexander832]

How can you question it? It is on the Internet.

[@TheSpongyMallard]

Most of the comments on the short are believing everything sadly.

[@raskolnikov6443]

@@TheSpongyMallard😖

[@scottshafer6024]

They don't teach you this in school, but most castles had dragons guarding them to ward off outside invaders.

[@r.awilliams9815]

Well acktually...only the richest nobles could afford to feed a guard dragon. The buggers will eat you out of house and home. Most castle owners had to make do with a monitor lizard, or even a big iguana.

[@nathanbranch1894]

I don’t care what they tell you in school, guards were dragons!

[@cobusvanderlinde6871]

Moats were not primarily defensive features, they were water reservoirs to keep the dragons properly hydrated. The earliest moats were actually located inside the baily, but dragons would often engage the enemy outside the walls, and thus would need their midbattle drink outside the walls, and thus the external moat developed.

[@jedh3721]

Look up Bishops Castle. You are more right than you know.

[@cobusvanderlinde6871]

@@jedh3721 It's as if a viking longship sprouted into something that looks a lot like a castle.

[@Senior-Donjusticia]

Medieval castles were universally pitch-black, freezing cold through summer and winter, smelled of sweat and excrement, were clogged with smoke from fires that didn’t provide any warmth or light, and rife with disease, but nobody cared because happiness hadn’t been invented yet.

[@fangslore9988]

pffft. often sage was burned and they would often flick rose oil on walls and the floor as a way to keep the castle smelling very nice, nice doers were very big back then and sage was very common in most house holds

[@DavidSmith-vr1nb]

You need to add the sarcasm marker or you will get a lot of rebuttals from people who thought you were serious.

[@Senior-Donjusticia]

@@DavidSmith-vr1nb I was DEADLY SERIOUS about happiness being an emotion that was only invented late into the renaissance! /deadly serious /you should totally take this seriously /NOT sarcastic!

[@davidmartensson273]

That is an improvement to the short he refereed to :) It waste less time digesting :P

[@mikehunt3688]

Life just wasn't really worth living until we got the playstation

[@Peptuck]

Kyle Hill had a video a few months back about the deluge of bad science videos flooding KZbin, often made by AI with AI voices. This sounds like another example of it in action.

[@jonathanj8303]

Its everywhere. "General" history here, specific misinformation on history elsewhere, I saw one the other day on monorails, and every single thing claimed was 100% wrong... Trouble is, it's functionally indistinguishable from propaganda, and also the kind of misinformation intended simply to make people mistrustful.

[@rafox66]

^ This I highly recommend watching that video to anyone who watches educational content on youtube, don't fall in the fake content trap.

[@sidroberts7960]

He is another one I like to watch. My step-father and I were just talking about his video's because my step-father served on a nuclear submarine for 8 years and worked in nuclear power for nearly 30 years after that. So he was talking about a video he watched from Kyle Hill discussing three mile island and he said that that video was VERY factually accurate(My step-father has read the over 800 page report directly from the incident).

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

Yup. That video has prevented me from buying some bullcrap

[@perrywaaz3660]

Kile is great. He is definitely not a super villain. You should watch all his videos

[@jamesvaughan8395]

I grew up without a flushable toilet. It worked fine. Why do they insist on making these blanket statements, as if all the modern conveniences were absolute necessity?

[@Nushnark]

If I had to guess, I'd say that since blanket statements are short and the algorithm on video platforms seem to push shorter videos, the creators of those videos just rapid fire these without any regard for accurate statements. And I completely understand you. I got really annoyed when a tour guide in a castle blabbered about how armour was hindering your movement, with a bunch of reenacters in full kit camping outside, mind you. Had to restrain myself not to call his BS.

[@Great-Dao-of-Elegance]

​@@NushnarkShould’ve called them out of their bs. They’re paid to inform people with actual facts. Misinforming people when there's already a direct source is bad.

[@michelguevara151]

because americanese education being populated with marxist revisionism propagandists.

[@TheL0ngbeard]

Used to stay at cottages that just had a latrine outside, it was perfectly fine. Also back in the day, they used to turn off the hot water in the apartment buildings when doing maintenance, so we had to heat up water on the stove when we wanted a hot bath, I am pretty sure medieval people could figure something like that out.

[@davidmartensson273]

We still have one at the summer house, not a problem, even if you do not drop it outside the smell does not sting down the area and you can add straw or sawdust to help dry it out which nullifies the smell quite well.

[@johnitzimiskes5609]

When I hear that AI voiceover on any video, I immediately tell youtube, "Don't recommend channel."

[@mr.behaving]

Yup. Me too. I can't stand any channel who uses it, it's annoying and grating and generally wrong info

[@inthefade]

SAME. Yet YT keeps recommending David Attenborough narrated AI videos. I wouldn't be surprised if they are hoping to replace content creators with AI generated videos. They may even be responsible for some of those channels. If they aren't, they are being stupid. I expect Spotify, etc., to do the same.

[@Grandwigg]

It's doubly annoying to hear from roommates devices or when visiting family.

[@Deorman]

I can afford myself a castle, but a BAth ? Are you crazy ?

[@fangslore9988]

right? its like they're saying building a bath so soooooo expensive

[@PhilBagels]

@@fangslore9988 And even if you can afford the tub, how can you afford the water to fill it?

[@gemstonegynoid7475]

the video also said the servants couldn't afford medicine. why the servants? its a castle. so its a ruler who definitely would be able to afford herbs and stuff.

[@fangslore9988]

@@PhilBagels naturally they'd get river water then put it in a kettle, during the medieval times most settlements such as cities, towns and villages would be established reasonably close to a river or reliably available water sources

[@markfoshee4768]

​@fangslore9988 that or even if they had a bad winter, and the river froze just break some ice off and melt it, or if they had massive piles of snow just melt the snow

[@TheSpongyMallard]

"Fireplaces weren't invented until the late medieval period." Oh no, this is gonna hurt my brain. 7:53 "The castle would smell horrible" what are the 100 servants doing then?

[@Madison-iw8ix]

Probably packed like sardines cause they're in a small castle.

[@fangslore9988]

most castles weren't even homes for royals, they were forts placed to house a regional garrison of soldiers usually roughly 30-40 soldiers at a given time and bigger castles that acted as citadels of cities would be the preferred housing for royals. also, in palaces like city citadels servants would burn sage and flick rose oil onto the walls and floor to give the castle a pleasant aromatic experience because back then most people would enjoy nice fragrances in and around their own homes and burning sage was so very common among even the common folk that even a peasant's house would smell nice

[@TheSpongyMallard]

@@fangslore9988 Oh, I knew all of this. I was just poking fun at the zero logic in the short. The stuff they said doesn't even make sense with their own words. Like, why would the castle smell bad if most of the people living there were servants who cooked and cleaned?

[@fangslore9988]

@@TheSpongyMallard yeah, its funny that their own stupid is on blast for being stupid this falls under "my source is i made it the fuck up" category

[@davidmartensson273]

@@fangslore9988 I agree with Shad, this sounds very much like a script written by a second rate LLM, "Give me a script about medieval castles and all the problems they have" and then just run a voice synthesizer over it.

[@Venturestien]

Ai: “the summer would be almost unbearable”. AI, also next sentence “the castle would be very cold”.

[@davidragan9233]

To the AI: Can we say "Doublespeak?" I knew you could lol

[@fangslore9988]

lol they don't realize in a castle a King would firstly have incense burning usually it would be sage and sometimes they'd have servants flick rose oil onto the floor and walls and that we've had fire places since early bronze age and its been proven LMAO

[@darthnihilusthebestsith]

Anyone who's been in a stonr house knows it's pretty fresh in the summer, for the heat absorption property Shad described in the video, which by the way is also how tye sea mitigates the climate. But hey, AI doesn't vidit places so of course it didn't know when it made this video

[@Riceball01]

The video wasn't referring to the temperature of the castle during the summer but the smell.

[@fangslore9988]

@@darthnihilusthebestsith AIs can't even Vet the info they vomit up LMAO

[@xxxlonewolf49]

Modern arrogance is just amazing. Projecting their own stupidity & ignorance onto the past, just to feel better about what they don't understand.

[@scottydu81]

It’s Victorian in nature, really

[@Maria_Erias]

There's a specific term for it that I can't remember, and applies to people who think older or different cultures are "lesser" or "stupid" because they unconsciously (or consciously) think their own is superior to it. It's the same sort of thing that causes people to think that the ancient civilizations were too stupid to be able to build the pyramids, or build complex irrigation networks, or even invent writing.

[@xxxlonewolf49]

@@Maria_Erias Democrat? Liberal?

[@Altarahhn]

​@Maria_Erias Hmm... if I recall, the exact term is "Presentism," isn't it?

[@germansnowman]

@@Maria_Erias I think you might refer to “chronological snobbery”, a term which was coined by C.S. Lewis IIRC.

[@dagdamor1]

I heard that telltale "I made it the f**k up" Shorts voice and knew Shad would have a field day.

[@perrywaaz3660]

100% I'm for most AI, but I have never heard that specific voice (and the high pitched unrealisticly cheerful girl) used for anything worth watching

[@ryanmuth8954]

It's AI, the "creator" didn't write the script, they let the AI write it and then had an AI voice over it. Just awful slop that's crowding the internet.

[@Freeze151]

For decades the residents of castles had to crawl through large windows because doors hadn't been invented yet

[@WellCookedPotatoes]

They also had to use draw bridges to enter the castle because normal bridges hadn't been invented yet

[@tobi_is_here9106]

the small windows they made for defense were actually used for throwing infants and small rocks at invaders, because as we all know, ranged weapons weren't invented yet

[@jerithil]

Castles really suffer from survivor bias as so many of the castles you can visit are major castles so many of the more minor ones don't really exist anymore.

[@mrtriwensideb7533]

One thing you missed about the light is that a lot of the rooms would have been plastered and whitewashed allowing the light that entered the room to illuminate it much more effectively

[@fangslore9988]

that and major areas would be lit by indoor braziers especially throne rooms and entry halls of even bigger citadel castles usually they'd be either on either side of the doors of the entry hall and throne room or in the corners of said rooms. since a throne room would be located in the most fortified part of the castle, in massive citadels it would be towards the back of the building, and they'd have a large entry hall where most of the royal guards would be posted but it wasn't the standard

[@Robbedem]

@@fangslore9988 I don't think braziers were common to be used inside, since they produce smoke and soot which isn't pleasant. Oil lamps were probably used most. For fancier occasions/places probably candles. Or maybe they used oil in braziers? I suppose that could have worked.

[@fangslore9988]

@@Robbedem indoor braziers used oil and they were roughly the size of a dinner plate, they didn't burn wood in them like many invissioned, though i do suspect they would use wool or something else to regulate the oil consumption from the fire. it wasn't uncommon for wall mounted indoor braziers in larger castles and grand palaces

[@ShapeshifterOS]

@@Robbedem Candles were far cheaper to make and more common.

[@SamBrockmann]

Whoa. That's wild. We have had fireplaces since, like caveman days.

[@jotheunissen9274]

Was one one of the first and most important 'discoveries'

[@SamBrockmann]

@jotheunissen9274 , exactly. The timeline goes, "Discover fire. Build or dig place to keep fire contained." Caveman 1: "WHAT WE CALL PLACE WHERE WE START FIRE?!" Caveman 2: "UH, WE CALL THAT FIREPLACE!"

[@its_saber1525]

​@@SamBrockmann like the first thing you'd think is "build thing to protect fire from rain"

[@SamBrockmann]

@@its_saber1525 , right?!

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

They had campfires, a fire surrounded by rocks to keep the fire contained, when living in caves. They would typically look for caves with natural vents (holes in the roof of the cave) and then just place the campfire beneath that. If they could build a fireplace they were also building huts (mud and daub in the early days) and only used caves for extreme weather sheltering. You either need extreme skill as a stone cutter to build a fireplace out of stone, or you need to fire clay to make brick. Any major gaps would allow too much smoke to escape and in a cave that would mean breathing issues and respiratory illness.

[@MrRaposaum]

Here's how most modern content creators depicts Europeans in the medieval era: People were just clumsy about everything, all the time. If they did anything right, it was by coincidence, not intelligence. People didn't minded STANK. People weren't practical. People couldn't read or write. People didn't sterilized anything or would do anything to avoid catching or spreading diseases. People didn't knew how to build a cohesive society system. People just didn't knew WTH they were doing. And sadly, many people watch these things and carry on these beliefs. I'm just grateful for you and all the channels like yours, Shad.

[@coldshock5181]

It's funny they say that when the fact they could build castles en masse in the first place is super impressive

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

Yah compare modern ‘architecture’ to medieval architecture

[@Ren99510]

It's definitely grating to see historical depictions these days saying the dumbest things that no common sense person, in any age, would abide. They do a lot of this crap with the Romans too.

[@wangusbeef86]

The paranoid schizo in me thinks that this might be an attempt at historical revision of european culture. Like a character assassination of white people in history. But don't listen to me, I'm obviously crazy

[@dwavenminer]

I think part of the reason these people believe all the trite is because they are projecting themselves... I mean just have a look (or smell) at the average gender studies student accommodation...these are the sorts of people that couldn't fix a straw if it bent...

[@stresslevel1009]

That intro was fucking hilarious, how did they even get that wrong?!

[@The_Fallen_1]

It's most likely AI generated, which has basically no fact checking and no one is properly involved in the video's creation. It's basically just someone letting a bunch of bots run wild as a shotgun approach for the ad revenue they can generate.

[@fangslore9988]

fun fact Castles would always smell really nice since many kings would have incenses made to burn such as sage sticks and other types of incenses, sometimes they would even have servants take a bucket of rose oil and the servants would take a brush and flick the rose oil onto the walls to make the castles smell really nice especially in larger citadel castles where they would have to entertain nobles and even other royalty, making the castle smell nice was among the priorities of servants so kings and queens would have a presentable home to impress honored guests

[@stresslevel1009]

@@The_Fallen_1 sounds about right

[@TechnoMinarchistBall]

​@@The_Fallen_1Not even quality AI. Just gpt3.5

[@Halo_Legend]

They? There's no "they". It was probably chat gpt all around.

[@ryko3698]

Fireplaces have been around since humans could build houses…. I’m so confused. Hestia is literally the goddess of the hearth, long before medieval times.

[@user-ou4jk2di4q]

Fireplaces with chimneys built up on the side of the wall are different from a hearth (Hestia and Vesta being goddesses of it) which is a central firepit with no chimney which relies on a thatched roof to filter out the smoke. Fireplaces never became common in many parts of the world but they were already known in the late Bronze age.

[@TheTomko44]

@@user-ou4jk2di4q Nope. The fireplace with chimney was 11th to 12th century. The word hearth refers to any firepit or fireplace of any historical period. It is a generalized term whereas fireplace is a much more specific term.

[@user-ou4jk2di4q]

​@@TheTomko44 The chimney is archeologically attested in the eastern Mediterranean since at least the Bronze age. The earliest finds are from Hattusa of the Hittites and several sites in Bronze age Greece. Even the small "zemlyanka" huts of the proto-slavs often had chimneys to oust the smoke from their earth ovens because such a small, low-roofed structure would turn into a gas chamber by the smallest fire. If the roof is impermeable a hearth (=a central firepit) will fill the space with smoke in no time and rising heat can even burn roof timbers if they are too close to the floor. That is why Viking and Anglo saxon halls who didn't have fireplaces and chimneys are so high-roofed and mostly thatched. The word chimney goes all the way back to Latin and Ancient Greek because the structure was well-known. The fact that the did not become common in England until the Normans is due to England being a backwater.

[@Calebgoblin]

I love this new anti-information-age where AI generate absolute horsecrap videos with no oversight

[@joshuaverkerk4532]

Is this really Skynet? Just trying to make us so stupid through misinformation that the machine take over will be a cakewalk??

[@daffers2345]

And then folks believe that info and spread it around, refusing to believe the truth because they saw it in a video!

[@enoughothis]

After we mastered fire the first thing we did was figure a way to bring it inside the house.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

Even the American indians figured out how to do it, and they didn't have what we'd consider fireplaces.

[@fangslore9988]

fun fact most feast halls, i'm talking about the massive ones would often have either a table top brazier or would have a fire place in the middle of the room during the very early medieval times roughly during the early 300s-900sAD

[@NinjaSimms]

I love how the argument is always "medieval peasants couldn't afford x", as if the concept of a broad consumer base didn't exist. The people providing medicine in the time would have had plenty of solutions that catered to the lower socioeconomic class of the time, otherwise how would they earn their living?

[@davidmartensson273]

Yes, catering only to royals would make you a servant since royals are to far apart to cater to more than one :)

[@suckieduckie]

This is highly dependend on the period. When feudalism was still the norm for 90% of the population, most domains were self sufficient and medicine was often supplied by a local monestary or homegrown. They earned their living by working on the land of their lord.

[@Predator20357]

If there is one thing I know about Shad, it’s that he loves his castles so to mess with castles is to mess with him (and other castles enthusiasts)

[@jamesfrankiewicz5768]

There's an old proverb about (computer) algorithms (which includes AI LLMs): "Garbage input produces garbage output" or "garbage in equals garbage out" (for short).

[@Calebgoblin]

The really short version is commonly "GIGO"

[@davidragan9233]

@@Calebgoblin That's how I learned it as well way back in the 1980's

[@11531337]

"'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -Charles Babbage (for the verbose and possibly much older version)

[@leggotheeggodemon1323]

@@Calebgoblin Its the anti giga.

[@donaldhobson8873]

True. But good data in and sometimes garbage out anyway

[@shadowlessxpan]

Suddenly, KZbin is recommending Shads videos again. What a coincidence.

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

🤔

[@Tonybob12]

Are we not going to address that if a room fills with smoke, you would die.

[@fangslore9988]

heh lol open a window wait medieval castle windows with glass don't open, uh fuck, we're screwed. fun fact in castles where the fire place was in in the middle of the room would have a shutter in the roof, you'll pull a chain and the shutter would open to let smoke out then when you don't need it you can close the shutter especially on the top floor of a tower

[@KeeseGaming]

Cavemen cooked with snow. It wasn't until the geniuses of the middle ages that fireplaces were used.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

Everyone knows everyone ate rocks before the Amazing Greeks and Romans. Then people in the horribly superstitious DARK AGES ate rocks again until the AMAZING and PROGRESSIVE Enlightenment.

[@SamBrockmann]

Regarding "No bathing". You try living near a river, stream, ocean, forest, grass, basically anywhere on earth and not bathing.

[@skibidi.G]

What if they're pirañas in the water 🤔

[@SamBrockmann]

@skibidi.G , guess it's time to move away from that river then.

[@mrsamaritan6881]

@@skibidi.G piranhas actually rarely attack humans.

[@skibidi.G]

@@SamBrockmann but what if it's the only river 🤔

[@SamBrockmann]

@skibidi.G , there is more than 1 river on earth. Move.

[@owennoad-watson2820]

"Castles would smell horrible" people at the time believed that disease was LITERALLY caused by bad smells. That alone contradicts this

[@White-Wolf1969]

Not that farfetched of a belief either, bad smells are often a sign of unsanitary conditions which are a leading cause of disease, the problem is they thought it was the smell itself so they covered it up instead of cleaning up the source of the smell.

[@tobi_is_here9106]

That is also why plague doctors had these long masks, to put good smelling things into the nose part to ward off diseases, at least that's what I heard

[@ulfhedtyrsson]

Unfortunately, humans didn't discover fire until 2006.

[@paulherman5822]

Fire was actually invented in 1975 by Dave Fire. 😂

[@samsammich8465]

I am the inventor of fire and the wheel

[@paulherman5822]

@@samsammich8465 But, but... The wheel was invented in 1975 by Dave Wheel.😁

[@samsammich8465]

​@@paulherman5822 He's only credited for it because I was frozen in a glacier this whole time. I was able to escape by inventing fire.

[@nikkibrowning4546]

Heard that in an AI generated video.

[@SidneyPatrickson]

Did you know that men and women looked the same till the vikings invented beards. A lot of chainmail in medival art is actually just hoodies made out of knited steel wool strong enough to block swords but not katanas. And medival animals had human faces.

[@DavidSmith-vr1nb]

Please mark sarcasm with /s, not all of Shad's viewers speak English as a first language.

[@gilgameshkingofheroes5903]

​@@DavidSmith-vr1nb Please don't do that.

[@dawnfire82]

@@DavidSmith-vr1nb Because you have to speak English as a first language to know what sarcasm is.

[@tobi_is_here9106]

@@dawnfire82 I don't speak english as a first language and I know what sarcasm is

[@themulattomaker2602]

Somebody better let that AI know that some people *still* pray about sickness, a thousand years later. That fact'll blow its little microchip.

[@HaterMayCry]

You know what video had a great depiction of what a real castle could look like? The reveal trailer of Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, which raises the question.. will we see the trailer breakdown/reaction here on Shadiversity?

[@Max1990Power]

I am waiting for that :( but time moves differently from Austria(australia)

[@Madison-iw8ix]

Fun fact: a lot of the negative stereotypes about the Middle Ages came from the Enlightenment, where religion started becoming less fashionable and the Greeks and Romans were put up on pedestals. A lot of these stereotypes can be debunked by basic logic. "Medieval people couldn't read." Well, when was the printing press invented?

[@brianmead7556]

Partially from the enlightenment, and extremely heavily from the Victorians, who had a massive complex about themselves being the absolute best and pinnacle of all mankind so if something was one way for them, they assumed all prior ages would’ve had it or done it worse. Victorian, practically inventing their own histories, has done an irreparable amount of damage to real history, as well as common understanding of history.

[@Ren99510]

Don't worry, modern people have went after the Romans too, apparently they were also bumbling drooling idiots!

[@Madison-iw8ix]

@brianmead7555 Once again, it's the British's fault.

[@fangslore9988]

this is incorrect, until the latin language was made public (the language we get a lot of our English letters from) the british people would read and write in Anglo Saxon Futhark runes which date back almost a thousand years when the saxons broke off from the Germanic tribes during the time of migration, there's examples of such runes written in caves presumably by children and a few other places then the latin alphabet when Latin was made publicly avalible to commoners to read and write in, in fact there's still Futhark letters lingering in the english language the capital I (traditional not times roman), X and F though F has been altered slightly over centuries

[@jedh3721]

​@@brianmead7556sounds a lot like what people do in current day. 🤔

[@zacharymelvin6669]

The oldest known hearth, which is around 300,000 years old, was discovered in Qesem Cave, Israel, in 2014. The hearth is located in the center of the cave and contains multiple layers of ash, which scientists were able to evaluate under a microscope after removing and hardening a chunk of sediment. Evidence of fire use at the site dates back to before 382,000 BP and continues until around 200,000 BP.

[@mrsamaritan6881]

BC*

[@perrywaaz3660]

Wow. They must have loved that cave

[@1crazypj]

@@mrsamaritan6881 I did wonder how BP was getting blamed for a fire in Israel?

[@HS-su3cf]

@@mrsamaritan6881 Might BP, Before Present. Used when carbon-dating. Present is 1950, so you subtract 1950 from a BP date to get BC. From the numbers, 1950 years might be within the uncertainty anyway.

[@davidmartensson273]

@@mrsamaritan6881 Does not really matter when we are talking about 200 000 years ago, the 2 K since Christ is just a rounding error :P

[@matthewlentz2894]

Oh come on, Shad. Of course the Romans had fireplaces but once the Medieval period started, everyone suddenly got stupid. I thought that was common knowledge.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

That's Enlightenment propaganda. Prepare to deal with the Spanish Inquisition!

[@tenzhitihsien888]

The Dark Ages were so Dark because the Sun hadn't been invented yet.

[@tobi_is_here9106]

And the black death was called black death because nobody could see anything... because light wasn't actually invented until scientist Charles B. Light invented it in the year 2015 along with fireplaces, torches and fire that actually spreads heat...

[@keasterthegreat]

"Hyper condensed nonsense" is a great line. Keep on fighting the good fight against the algorithm

[@jameslightfoot1872]

The journey to truth leads through the forest of lies.

[@jeffmaesar]

coming on strong from the start with the fireplace were invented during the middle age... sure, and the Greek, Romans, Egyptians ate their foods raw.

[@davidmartensson273]

I mean, it did not claim fire was not invented, just fireplaces :) Still wrong of cause since as Shad said, they had been around since ancient times, its just that mot all house types benefited from a fireplace. If the walls are wood and you had thatch root, going through the hazel of creating bricks was probably not worth it since a central fire, as also said, heats the room better. If you had access to bricks, or if the walls was stone, adding a fireplace makes much more sense.

[@tobi_is_here9106]

Obviously not dummy, they only ate berries fruits and mushrooms, because meat was invented in 2004

[@jeffmaesar]

@@tobi_is_here9106 born in 1977, life was boring without meat before 2k4....

[@beetrootmcguillicuddy4185]

Slapping, thats was the real reason for all those arenas. They are slappitoriums to cook all those chickens.

[@prepper_nation_h]

Even my grandparents' 1827 farmhouse had 6 fireplaces originally. Three chimneys with both an upstairs and downstairs fireplace for each chimney. I remember the absolutely enormous fireplace that dominated one end of the great hall at Linlithgow Palace when I visited there.

[@richardsylvester4518]

This is the problem with the Internet. Anyone can say anything without context or references and morons believe them.

[@skibidi.G]

Alright, but : *The freedom to be an internet moron is basic human rights*

[@themulattomaker2602]

-Abraham Lincoln

[@raphk9599]

I don't think it's an issue with the internet, I think it's a problem with gullible morons. Those have existed long before the Internet.

[@dawnfire82]

That has always been the case. The difference is that now you don't need a radio station, newspaper, or tv broadcast to get an audience, and the potential audience is larger. William Heart set out to (and successfully did) generate propaganda in the late 19th century sufficient to justify a major war. And he was confident he could do so, because that's basically what journalists are for: propaganda.

[@havocman3725]

i didnt know that the lord created fire only later as an update or something

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

Most people don’t realize it came in a patch in the early 1300s, really was a massive quality of life update. Of course, it wasn’t until 1600s that actual houses were invented, so having fireplaces 300 years early didn’t really help all that much with nowhere to put them

[@themulattomaker2602]

"Fire.exe OP, burned my thatched roof. Plz nerf"

[@mandowarrior123]

It indeed was a patch, religiously speaking.

[@tobi_is_here9106]

@@Meyer-gp7nq I didn't like the house update in the 1600s because even though it was great, it was a paid dlc sadly

[@davidtucker9498]

I am now wondering why we don't make gated communities that are just castles...

[@1crazypj]

thought you said 'grated' like another fire gag.😇

[@TheCloudCreation]

I don't want to jinx anything, but I've almost every one of your new videos shown near the top of my YT home page since you made the YT is killing my channel video. Hopefully you calling out our YT overlords, caused them to reverse whatever shadowban they had on you. Keep up the great content, Shad!

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Some people just straight up make things up, Sad to see

[@fangslore9988]

*creates a youtube vid* Someone in the comments: whats your source? Owner of the KZbin channel: I made it the fuck up.

[@merlith4650]

When the video talks about "fireplaces not being invented before the middle ages," it's 100% referring to chimneys. When you search for the invention of chimneys, the immediate online sources claims the chimney was invented around the 11th-12th century, and the invention of the smoke canopy was invented at an earlier point in the middle ages. Which is certainly closer to our more contemporary understanding of a household fireplace. This is probably the piece of information that is being misinterpreted to claim that a "fireplace" is from the later part of the Middle Ages. Which strengthens the impression that this is AI generated.. or a guy doing very sloppy research while also severely misinterpreting the information he is reading. But my bet is on AI

[@josephfisher426]

That could be true for common construction in Europe, but what about the ME? Chimneys are used for cooling in Iran.

[@zabrid9143]

I think a good idea could be making your own KZbin shorts debunking these in a similar way to Miniminuteman. I would definitely enjoy them

[@davidmartensson273]

Bulls''t is more compressible than real facts unfortunately :)

[@METALFREAK03]

There is a "castle" in Wales that has been re-purposed as an air bnb Tower to live for a family of 5. (it's a small tower, as you say in the vid)

[@ExAnimoPortugal]

According to these videos, it's amazing that humanity not only survived, but also thrived in the middle ages

[@orphideus8057]

Don't let AI do the heavy lifting in your production. You've still got o do the work, its just a helper!

[@Skatche]

In addition to the fireplaces, I imagine wall hangings (tapestries etc.) and rugs would have been used as well, no? Like, they certainly look pretty, but they also provide insulation.

[@davidmartensson273]

Yes and Shad have made a number of videos on the subject, both directly and indirectly when visiting existing castles.

[@Senior-Donjusticia]

So informative! I had no idea fireplaces were a modern convenience!

[@Muritaipet]

A castle is a family business. Any family business has a structure, usually someone older at the top, the younger people doing more work. So with regard to "servants", a number of those roles / jobs are likely done by the family or extended family.

[@fangslore9988]

mostly you would have 2 servants per member of a royal house hold, one would be your personal servant catering to your immediate needs like serving you meals running erands then you would have a house servant who would clean and maintain your property and often being a servant was coveted work, you're higher in society than a peasant the pay was good (for the time) and most kings and queens rewarded faithful servants with lodging until death and even attended funerals of servants who died plus they would be given their own personal grave rather then burried in the city's tomb or graveyard

[@Muritaipet]

@@fangslore9988 Well in truth, where you write "you" - that would likely not apply to either of us. And although I don't actually know your situation, I was not born into great wealth and privilege. But thank you for your assessment. You are right. My comment was fighting against the idea that anyone who had a castle, was surrounded by a vast array of servants. Just as it's really not true now, it probably wasn't true then.

[@fangslore9988]

@@Muritaipet its written to be hypothetical if "you" meaning if you were in that position

[@Muritaipet]

@@fangslore9988 That's cool. I really liked your summary of the reality of medieval service.

[@davidmartensson273]

@@fangslore9988 I think the "royal house hold" was specific enough for me at least :D, that already ruled out most small castles anyway where multiple servants was probably not so common.

[@zack65769]

I would love for you to review a game called manor lords since it's based on the medieval villages and some military aspects of the middle ages

[@joshbone9888]

“Medieval people didnt bathe” “Eureka” “What?” “Eureka” “What did you mean?” “What do you think when you hear Eureka?” “Archimedes” “When did he live?” “Thousands of years ago” “What was he doing when he said eureka?” “Having a bath” “…”

[@beetrootmcguillicuddy4185]

People that think medieval people didnt bathe arent the type of people that know who Archimedes was and they certainly havent heard that story.

[@I_love_bread_and_Hungry_Jacks]

Shad sounds like he's going to go ballistic because of this video

[@saveversus]

"Ugh, if only I had a place for all this fire." Seriously though, I would flag this type of video; there's no host, and I imagine it's mainly posted just to get ad revenue. If you check out the channel, I'm sure you'll eventually see a thumbnail with a well known scientist who's barely in the intro.

[@tobi_is_here9106]

flags won't be invented for another 50 years, how do you know about them

[@gowzahr]

Can confirm, thermal mass is a term used to describe that heat capacity. I can also confirm that the kind of people who routinely use the term, "thermal mass," have to deal with people who like to debate whether or not, "thermal mass," is an appropriate term or whether a different term should be used instead.

[@johntheknight3062]

Shad: I don't think people making these videos should be stopped. SellSword Arts: Reeeeeeeeee!!!

[@skiveman]

Huh, an old style Shad video where he just sits and talks about a specific subject. I like these. It also probably helps to keep his chronic fatigue under control where he can just sit instead of swinging swords and other weapons around.

[@nikkibrowning4546]

Shad is at his best when he has a mix of videos

[@meganfoster8838]

Regarding "stinking" castles, I was thinking the other day about how the system of using straw or rushes (which smell quite nice) as a floor covering, mixed with herbs like pennyroyal and rosemary, then removed and added to the compost pile when it started getting manky was pretty efficient and eco-friendly. Wood ash sprinkled over excrement blocks the smell. Used this heaps in cat litter trays. Servants couldn't afford medicine? Maybe... but the master could afford it, and the understanding was that the master would provide medical care for the servants. It was part of the deal.

[@sebastianwieczorkiewicz2612]

That *film* is so misinformed and so full of itself it has probably an liberal arts degree.

[@Blindy_Sama]

The bathing thing, even in the early eighties on my dad went to Honduras working for NOAA some of the places weren't developed yet.. there was specifically a river where at the top of the river they swam, the next section down they bathed, the next section after that they wash clothing, and a section after that they washed the vehicles that they had if they had any.

[@jamesklee]

Glad to see YT is putting you back on my home page and whatnot. Keep fighting, and we'll be right there with you good sir(s)!

[@shu93129]

Ooh, lucky day! A classic Shad sitting and talking about stuff video.

[@emmitstewart1921]

Let me tell you a few things about bathing. My grandfather lived in a house without any indoor plumbing. His water came from a hand pump outside his kitchen door. Water for cooking, drinking, or any other purpose was brought in in a galvanized steel bucket ,but him and my Uncle Bob bathed frequently. they had a galvanized steel washtub about two feet across and a foot deep. They would set this on the kitchen floor, fill it with water brought in with their bucket, stand in it, and wash themselves from head to foot. people in castles would have had similar container that could have been used the same way. I did, for a time, live in a building where a woman lived who wouldn't bathe due to mental illness. She thought that splashing cologne on herself would be enough to get her clean. The smell when she walked down the hall would linger for almost an hour. The fact is that not bathing for months at a time has a physical effect on the human body. Every few months, her case manager had to sign her into the hospital to be treated for severe fungal skin infections. People found ways to bathe, or at least wash themselves, just to keep healthy. if the local lake or river was frozen over, they could bring a laundry tub or a handy half barrel into the kitchen and wash themselves there. You do not need to fully immerse yourself in hot water to get clean. A three gallon bucket will do the job. For much of history, only the rich bathed in warm water. Most commoners bathed in cold water and enjoyed it.

[@gemstonegynoid7475]

when i visited rural relatives, i learned how to bathe with a barrel of water and scooping just little pails of water on me at a time. got just as clean, and i probably used less water than a shower.

[@Roland3ld]

Thanks for the great video, Shad. The past 30 hours have been rough with a quadruple whammy of being sick. Your videos are always something to look forward too.

[@DygoKnight]

Make more videos reviewing video game castles like you did with Kingdom Come Deliverance and The Witcher!

[@crolithebard4964]

You watch Shadiversity?? Awesome!

[@pointman2]

that intro absolutely hooked me, great video, keep it up 👍

[@user-dd2lw6rq4x]

lol they act like owning a castle isn't 100s of thousands of gold or equal to owning a air craft carrier today

[@fangslore9988]

fun fact most castles were multigenerational constructions, a king dies his son becomes the new king and may decide to build onto the castle adding new parts and then this repeats the smaller castles dotting the landscape are first and formost forts with garrisons of career soldiers who are assigned to keep that region of the kingdom safe and secure

[@davidmartensson273]

@@fangslore9988 Smaller castles was also often local lords with maybe a few permanent soldiers where the castle was both the house of the lord and a safe place.

[@fangslore9988]

@@davidmartensson273 most lords would have Mannor houses of large towns and villages and would be given governance over them. for example a large town may have that 1 large Mannor house where the local lord would govern the town. like royalty nobles would establish their homes in populated areas for logistical reasons like food, water and to govern

[@lurker_man7216]

This is my type of content. Stay strong Shadiversity!!

[@jmats90usmc]

Glad to see a return to these video essay style videos.

[@SuperCityscan]

I tried an outhose where you have to throw straw on the fieces to mask the smell, and they work really well. Much better than just a big hole with a "toilet" on the top. I would say a really good alternative if you don't have access to a good amount of water and sewers/cesspool or a big well ventilated drop.

[@phileo_ss]

Many houses in Japan still do not have flushable toilets so they do sometimes smell offensive OUTSIDE but they are fine inside unless something is terribly wrong.

[@kaandervis6276]

Very entertaining video Shad, thanks. I really like those types of classic Chad videos with him sitting and talking about castles and debunking.

[@therowofboats4840]

Shad, keep up the great work! Hope you're doing well.

[@JaraKex]

Recently I read a "Top 10 things you didn't know about the middle ages" and it was wild! There was stuff like "Peasants didn't get sweets and the nobles only ate fancy cake, because everything else was not invented yet", what a load of ****. By this logic, I have to ask, where did the "fancy cake" come from... if normal cake wasn't invented!

[@steakinbacon8593]

Apparently people think the average medieval person was always dirty, hated fun, didn’t like good food, and was dumber than a rock. lol do people really not understand that if this was the case than none of us would be alive today because our species would have gone extinct because of how supposedly “stupid” our ancestors were. People in medieval Europe were not dumb just because some of them couldn’t read which even that wasn’t entirely true depending on the era and availability of education,

[@AkodoAkira1]

One of my favorite "bad history" videos had a section where it argued the Europe didn't invent butter until the latter part of the Renaissance. Like despite 3,000 year old bog butter and Roman texts regarding butter, I guess no one invented it until the 1600's or so...

[@gimligloinson972]

I wonder if Carrickfergus Castle is roughly the average size for a castle. As someone who live relatively close I can say that we generally make fun of it for being so ‘small’, but that’s probably just compared to popular media

[@elizabethmcglothlin5406]

Castles were also a place of refuge, that you ducked into in times of trouble and hoped it didn't last too long. If it did you were in more trouble because of food. Did the garderobes smell bad? Probably, but you weren't in there for long. People, I suspect, were always as clean as they could be. Likely less in winter, but there's such a thing as washing with a bucket or basin and cloth. I lived for a number of years with limited sanitary possibilities. It was a nuisance to be clean but achievable.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

Plus it's harder to smell when you can't feel your nose.

[@gallixypegasuss1546]

I had a thought for a sword enchantment: it extends the word's length without compromising the durability, but the weight stays the same and the weight distribution changes

[@NeinBreaker]

So, like Shinso from Bleach and Wailing Dark from Asura's Wrath. Both of those can extend to be ridiculously long, but are both made through supernatural means, and Shinso has no weight since it's made of spirit energy. I guess that the compromise your version needs to work is to give the sword molecule-thick sharpness to counterbalance the weight issue. A split-second time limit would need to be imposed as well, since a prolonged battle with something as long as the world wouldn't be practical. And if the durability isn't enhanced, then too much flex would snap the blade if the flat edge bumps into something.

[@bmardiney]

About the smells, even today, some cultures don’t seem to smell body odor nearly to the degree that people in the West do. In college, my Spanish class came after an English-as-second-language class for Asian immigrants…the room absolutely reeked of BO. Clearly there was a difference in odor tolerance there.

[@davidmartensson273]

Its very much a case where you can get used to many things, in warmer climates you will sweat a lot, if not you will suffer and maybe die, so its not something you really can avoid, you can mask it or just get used to it. But you have similar even within countries, farmers are usually much less grossed out by the smell in barns and stables than inner city inhabitants ;) So yes a medieval castle might be an assault on the nose of a modern fashionista or wall street stock broker, but be perfectly fine to anyone used to normal mother nature smells in general :P

[@gemlord17]

I've learned most of this already but I just love listening to your rants 🤣

[@trynda1701]

Love this Shadiversity video! 👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎 Full of your usual enthusiasm, and love your incredulity about the misinformation the castle video short was providing! That was quite a few belly laughs you got! 😃😃😃😃

[@LiteratureDevil]

Hey Shad! This video popped up in my recommended. Plus, I really like these kinds of videos lol. Very nice!

[@mlmf2012]

What actually makes us feel cold is mostly the wind that blows away the heat radiating from our bodies. Go test it out, set your airconditioner to 18 degrees and play around with the fan speed and see which setting lets you feel cold more. In a room with closed windows, your own bodyheat radiates around you and heats up the place. Same with a fire place. Same also why when you get cold hands, you insert your hands inside the jacket's front pockets, so the heat radiating from your hands get trapped in the pocket by blocking the wind and in a few minutes that cold pocket becomes warm

[@steakinbacon8593]

I winterized my chicken coop with nothing more than some wood and tarps. I didn’t use any heaters or anything too fancy and the wood and tarps kept the inside warm enough for the chickens to be pretty cozy simply because the wood and tarps stopped the wind from getting in. It’s amazing how much the temperature can change by simply controlling wind access. So with closed windows and lit fireplaces castles might be pretty cozy even in winter.

[@mansfieldtime]

. 5:30 Question. Shad; IDK the archeology, history, or common life, but I was wondering, "Did most castles have a village/town near by?" Say within sight or no greater the 10 km/6mi. I ask because if someone had a castle, they were at least wealthier then peasants, and it would need to be supplied somehow. So wouldn't a farming village be near? Even for the single family castles, it makes sense to me, but I haven't done research in this. I was more interested in battles and siege events though I now know I should expand my knowledge.

[@mrsamaritan6881]

It would depend on the castle's purpose. Most castles were created to have a safe place to retreat too when attacked, so most castles were near or surrounded by villages/towns. Some castles however were built to be forts often to protect strategic locations and so would not necessarily be near towns/villages.

[@DavidSmith-vr1nb]

​@@mrsamaritan6881 what you said, mostly. However, they would maintain a supply line even if they were relatively remote.

[@NixonRules963]

Castle Video AI: Says anything. Shadiversity: I'm about to end this AI's whole career

[@k101_]

i love this format of your videos. i think sitting down and talking about things in an intellectual way is better than the live action productions you and the boys were up to

[@Serahpin]

"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." -Carl Sagan

[@Madison-iw8ix]

He isn't wrong.

[@CruelDwarf]

It is kinda possible to argue that most people were unable to afford HOT baths. Firewood was kinda expensive in a lot of places and in a lot of times.

[@Azorees-oj5zr]

Firewood wouldn’t have been particularly difficult for anyone to get, high quality firewood is a different matter though.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

It's not like cold baths clean you any less.

[@davidmartensson273]

I would say that would have been more of a city problem and probably not so much a castle problem as such. And many would be able to have a heated bath, not hot but at least tempered, many times (according to images) baths was not necessarily full body but smaller tubs where you used a sponge or some container to pour water over the upper body so the actual amount of hot water might only have been tens of liters or less, similar amounts that could be used to wash clothes, which would be quite achievable to most with their own home, and very likely to anyone in a castle. And as long as the lord of the castle can bath, they will want any servant to be able to clean up also ;)

[@steakinbacon8593]

I don’t think it would be that bad without heated water for a bath. If the room was fairly heated the bath would boot be to bad I don’t think. And there’s also the option of putting that bath out in the sun so the sun can warm it over time.

[@dawnfire82]

...what? Almost any peasant boy with an axe could generate firewood. It was used routinely. How else did people cook?

[@bobingabout]

The house I live in... used to have 5 fireplaces. when my dad moved in over 40 years ago, he knocked out the fireplace in the kitchen, and blocked off the upstairs fireplaces. We still have 2 fairly nicely decorated gas-powered fireplaces downstairs, though we don't use them any more since getting the central heating installed.

[@Therozzer24]

With the 'smelling horrible' thing, many medieval people believed in Miasma theory where they thought illness was spread by 'bad smells' so they may have even been more intolerant with poor smells as us as we don't consider them as life threatening

[@jvy012896]

Welcome to the world of low effort AI content. Copy paste chatgpt and make a short in 10 minutes 💀

[@----Jay----]

+1 for turning Shadlands into a shorter edits re-up channel. All the long vids on here of pissing about taking turns throwing shit at dummies can drag on a bit, not gonna lie. It was cool seeing the original videos over there, of your castle concepts & construction plans, but this new idea will hopefully do really well for you.. algorithm & audience permitting.

[@Grandwigg]

I love how this video was framed. And the teaser for the Shadlands was beautiful (if it could have been audio balanced a little closer to the main video). Just had that thought at the start. Excited to watch this.

[@jackmcslay]

19:00 an addendum: since these castles were probably plastered on the insides, often times with white or another bright color, that greatly increases the efficiency of those windows by maximizing the reflection of light by the walls. The building I work at has the same principle applied with roof windows that lead into a shaft down the central corridor where the walls and floors are white, such it's well lit during daylight without needing side windows nor electric lights, while another building on the same campus that doesn't have the all-white corridor has similar roof windows but the corridor seems visibly less bright.

[@taklampan650]

I don't watch much Shad anymore but this was a good upload. Good job, this felt more like the Shad I started watching like 7 years ago

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

Yuh same