Debunking Anti-SJW Narratives | MARVEL COMPILATION

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@iggyelle
@iggyelle 3 жыл бұрын
Hey y’all! Found you via a video The Serfs made based on your Comicsgate video. You’re very talented and I’m prolly gonna binge your content. It’s so rare to find good comics discourse and history. Anyway, you know, I’m beginning to think the grift runs even deeper on the comics end of things: They’re fake fans. They don’t engage in the content on good faith. Maybe this is obvious, but honestly I just thought they had no ability to analyze and interpret media from an objective viewpoint. XD Yes, I can be very naive.
@movieblocks9164
@movieblocks9164 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that I hate is that when captain marvel came out every anti-sjw grifter was saying, "Why don't we have a black widow movie? I wouldn't hate it if it was a black widow movie". 2 years later..... We got a black widow movie. And they're STILL malding.
@madsgrams2069
@madsgrams2069 3 жыл бұрын
Because it was..."woke trash" :)). Funny thing, I actually agree with them that the Black Widow movie wans't very good. But not for the reasons they think that, of course. :))
@brandonpick1486
@brandonpick1486 2 жыл бұрын
​@@madsgrams2069 what was woke about Black Widow?
@ellehcim2779
@ellehcim2779 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonpick1486 because... She's a girl 😁
@Rokutakaoka234
@Rokutakaoka234 2 жыл бұрын
@@ellehcim2779 sexist
@Captianmex1C0
@Captianmex1C0 2 жыл бұрын
@@madsgrams2069 they think that a movie is bad because it had "Woke" elements but in reality it's just bad writing or effects
@billycalifornia1112
@billycalifornia1112 3 жыл бұрын
Im so glad I left that Anti SJW bullshit behind
@marvelguy1625
@marvelguy1625 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@ellehcim2779
@ellehcim2779 2 жыл бұрын
Same now I realize how wrong both are
@LadyOfTheEdits
@LadyOfTheEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@RedCapKid514438
@RedCapKid514438 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@This-is-a-commentt
@This-is-a-commentt Жыл бұрын
Me too
@movieblocks9164
@movieblocks9164 3 жыл бұрын
Even DC has had incredibly left leaning politics. Superman took on the KKK, gun control, and even US imperialism, Green arrow took on the drug war and is to this day the most left leaning hero in comics, batman took on corrupt politicians and evil corporations, wonder woman was a giant feminist and was constantly taking on issues of women's rights, comic books have ALWAYS been extremely political. And these people just ignore all of that for money and so they can believe their stupid world views without them being challenged.
@castynscott4394
@castynscott4394 2 жыл бұрын
Taking on the kkk is not left leaning considering democrats started the kkk😂
@smns34087
@smns34087 2 жыл бұрын
​@@castynscott4394 Yes it is. Quit ignoring the party switch it's embarrassing.
@castynscott4394
@castynscott4394 2 жыл бұрын
@@smns34087 no it’s not quit repeating that lie it’s embarrassing
@ccole2262
@ccole2262 3 жыл бұрын
That She Hulk run was almost a Dwayne McDuffie run. His pitch became She Hulk Ceremony.
@azazel166
@azazel166 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed at the "Pharoah" sign, they can't even spell Pharaoh right.
@lilmovieperp3599
@lilmovieperp3599 3 жыл бұрын
this is why the anti-sjw's won't debate their positions. its in turn made their fanbase run away from debating. they know they don't have a leg to stand on. I've tried for the longest time to try to debate these "woke sjw ruining entertainment" for the longest time. they all run away...its crazy. keep doing what ur doing...
@SipDeathTheKid
@SipDeathTheKid 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I really thought I was the only one who was dumb enough to make the attempt (not calling you dumb but me for wasting my time). It's quite sad, they regurgitate these same tired arguments and everytime I ask them "hey have you actually read the comic?" They do every single thing they can to deflect, it honestly makes me wanna make a video of my own because it seems like soooo many people are just brain dead idiots with little to no real world experience nor ability to think for themselves.
@Falcovsleon21
@Falcovsleon21 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there are some pretty lousy trends and bad writing occasionally rearing their heads in modern comics and there are egotistical self righteous comic writers in Marvel. Kate "All men must die" Leth was one such person and it's what led to me siding with Comicsgate. (Until they showed their true colors and then I dumped them) That said it's not nearly the problem on the level these people actually want to make it out to be.
@user-unos111
@user-unos111 Жыл бұрын
They run away because they know these people don't want to learn anything and only pay attention to people who praise their pathetic ideology. Then sjw try to rationalize their views and present themselves as enlightened. Basically, they are like a new brand version of delusional religious fanatics. P.D.: Also, valiant statements considering in my experience sjws rather prefer to ban people who disagrees with their opinions and then insult you to boost their egos
@yogsothoth8389
@yogsothoth8389 2 жыл бұрын
I cringe when I think that I used to watch those anti-SJW clowns unironically. I'm honestly ashamed to admit that I bought into a lot of that crap for a while.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 2 жыл бұрын
I was never Anti Woke dude but I suddenly got death threats for being nothing like them and never caring for the flaws. Me an my father were called shit people
@blueizumi
@blueizumi 2 жыл бұрын
Same I’m embarrassed for thinking they were logical
@user-unos111
@user-unos111 Жыл бұрын
@@blueizumi They are
@secondmemelord8859
@secondmemelord8859 Жыл бұрын
I fell into the Rabbit Hole too. We can be glad we got out of this dumpster fire.
@jameshowlett5106
@jameshowlett5106 3 жыл бұрын
There is another one that I think needs to be talked about; the whole "manga sells better because Japanese people don't force politics into their stories." Just remember, kiddies, when people say that, it's usually from people who don't know a damn thing about Japan, Japanese history, culture, customs, etc. There's plenty of manga with political themes in them, such as Akira, First President of Japan, or Deathnote. Anime and live-action movies such as Space Battleship Yamato, Japan's Longest Day, Japan Sinks, a good chunk of the Godzilla franchise (to name a few), are also examples of Japanese creators expressing a political, social, or philosophical viewpoints. Ya know, it's almost like these guys don't think deeper than "Yay big tiddy anime waifus."
@ActualFandom
@ActualFandom 3 жыл бұрын
I've been collecting info on that. Soon.
@jameshowlett5106
@jameshowlett5106 3 жыл бұрын
@@ActualFandom That'll be a fun video to watch!!!
@devforfun5618
@devforfun5618 3 жыл бұрын
naruto, one of the most popular anime of the decade is all about politics, weapons of mass destruction, racial cleansing, the price of peace, economics of war, what makes a good leader
@bubbainc-k6u
@bubbainc-k6u 3 жыл бұрын
Even the most popular mainstream mangas like One Piece and Naruto has some politics in it.
@ragsnstitches
@ragsnstitches 3 жыл бұрын
Considering its themes I think it's relevant to mention My Hero Academia too. With its blend of both American and Japanese superhero motifs, it comments on modern Japanese society, disillusionment over established power structures, failure of state bodies to prepare for disasters, how the youth of tomorrow are being forced to carry the burdens and failures of their parents and forebearers etc. The addition of super powers to the mix makes for some awkward metaphors but it's also a show/manga for kids and teens so a little leeway is expected in these allegories. *spoilers* I wonder if there's anything behind the fact that the "symbol of peace" is a blonde haired, blue eyed ultra powerful "superman" type character whose costumes are all red white and blue, whose special attacks are are US state names with SMASH at the end of it, and that as his powers diminish, there is a growing threat of a "dark past" returning from the shadows to drag the country (Japan) back into a "might makes right" style fascist society. Hmm...
@codenamekendall2780
@codenamekendall2780 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to hear your take on clownfish tv…… those people hate everything, at some point what’s the point in being a nerd if you hate everything about the culture 😑😑😑😑
@lunakingsley.7247
@lunakingsley.7247 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention they spread a lot of misinformation.
@badreedinedjellali1328
@badreedinedjellali1328 2 жыл бұрын
yeah the also defended the uncharted movie calling people who hate it are woke and the movie is actually terrible it shows these people only doesn't like these movies if there politicals but not because there bad
@yourgodismean4526
@yourgodismean4526 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating walk through comics political history. I’m rly digging learning about this stuff 🦋
@yourgodismean4526
@yourgodismean4526 3 жыл бұрын
@@EyeofValor Speak for yourself, dearie
@KloudShun
@KloudShun 3 жыл бұрын
We need more channels like this on KZbin. Keep up the good work!
@somik-i3x
@somik-i3x 3 жыл бұрын
I always love to see anti-SJW argument getting destroy by reality itself.
@Deemo202
@Deemo202 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I never noticed the symbolism of Dark Reign.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 3 жыл бұрын
About Time finally someone said the truth about comics being anti sjw or SJW argument being nonsense because frankly that's been driving me insane these past couple of years, that people can't accept that marvel has been political from the very beginning.
@movieblocks9164
@movieblocks9164 3 жыл бұрын
23:27 I love how the bullet sound is "CHUD" like every anti-sjw youtuber is.
@sarelmarais7645
@sarelmarais7645 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to have found this channel.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you one hundred percent :)
@calebelectric
@calebelectric 3 жыл бұрын
Funny story, I heard of the new Iron man comic was written by Christopher Cantwell (previously did the Dr. Doom mini series great stuff). Heard some angry right wing youtubers saying that Hellcat “hates white men amd toxic masculinity” from channels like Thinking Critical, Geeks and Gamers and the Quartering as usual. Decided to read the story to see what the fuss is all about and sure the scene was a bit distasteful because Stark just broke his entire body to save some scientist from a super villain but even though Hellcat was a bit insensitive and out of line she was speaking from a place of pain as half her face had scars and was hearing voices from supervillain Michael Korvac but of course they leave out that part in their reviews because the context went against the narrative. Honestly I’m digging this run because it’s not not dealing with Stark wanting to be more of a street level superhero while having a partner like Hellcat who has this buddy cop feel of two very different people working together for the common good to stop Michael Korvac whose trying to regain his old cosmic powers from Galactus ship which in my opinion it’s a really cool story and highly recommend it to check it out. In conclusion, I just find it hilarious they ignore a really good plot line for this current run of Iron man for “toxic masculinity, white man evil” rhetoric. Bunch of pussies (sry for the language it just infuriates me these people are even allowed to be doing stuff like this) and I’m not a left winger or a right winger , more of a centrist they are good and bad in each apples in each camp.
@jeetlaha9627
@jeetlaha9627 3 жыл бұрын
Stark has been berated by Daredevil, Black Panther, Spider-Man etc with the same wordings Hellcat said.
@osborn.illustration
@osborn.illustration 3 жыл бұрын
This is right on! Thanks for the video. Subbed!
@ActualFandom
@ActualFandom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@BrookeSkylarShields
@BrookeSkylarShields 3 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel, great work.
@ActualFandom
@ActualFandom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome!
@edward2962
@edward2962 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd throw out there though that there's all kinds of politics/social issues though...the Red Baiting in those 60's Marvel/DC Comics, some comics spoofing feminism, and of course a whole genre of war comics...then there's the Underground Hippy Comics...
@hgbguy
@hgbguy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey new subscriber here saw one of your vids hosted on the serfs t.v. talking about comics gate. great content and analysis keep up the good work we all really appreciate it.
@movieblocks9164
@movieblocks9164 3 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if these people existed back when the green arrow vs green lantern story arc was going on? they'd probably go insane because of the SJW agendas being pushed into their face.
@djm122270
@djm122270 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for of this! Glad to know someone out there sees it as I do. Can’t stand those hypocrites!
@torritaite2880
@torritaite2880 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many Marvel characters that I love and can relate to that it's just not funny! For one I can relate a lot to both, Bruce Banner/Hulk. Matt Murdoch/Daredevil, Luke Cage and Peter Parker/Spider-Man. All of these characters on some level I have a lot in common with! As much as I love DC , their characters and on some level I can relate to them too. I'm more of a "Marvel Guy".
@tnt9126
@tnt9126 3 жыл бұрын
Some people have a very visceral reaction to when they see diversity right in front of them. They can look past metaphors for social justice like with mutants if the characters are aesthetically reflect them imo. Once they don't its a different story, their minds shut off and for them that automatically makes the character lose all relatability. Its like code switching if you're trying to get a job, they'll have an excellent conversation with you on phone, take no issue with your resume/credentials but the moment you physically see them and they know you're not white the good vibes are gone and you're not getting a call back lol
@This-is-a-commentt
@This-is-a-commentt Жыл бұрын
Guys, let’s get this clear… 👏🏾an👏🏾agenda👏🏾does 👏🏾not👏🏾 necessarily 👏🏾mean👏🏾 it’s 👏🏾 a 👏🏾 bad 👏🏾 one!
@iraford3702
@iraford3702 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video.
@andrewaugustus6447
@andrewaugustus6447 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you been calling the this is too woke crowd. I’m sharing all that shit brother and as a black man I am glad you’re saying this.
@torritaite2880
@torritaite2880 3 жыл бұрын
X-Men #303 was a very good story and so was Hulk #312.
@cryptking6283
@cryptking6283 3 жыл бұрын
Spot On. It's such a tiring phenomenon from the Grifters.
@cryptking6283
@cryptking6283 3 жыл бұрын
@@EyeofValor He's not
@MrSaxokeet
@MrSaxokeet 3 жыл бұрын
Love the analysis
@andrewaugustus6447
@andrewaugustus6447 2 жыл бұрын
Young Rippaverse 59 needs to read this and people who think like him.
@jaxthedisintegrator8096
@jaxthedisintegrator8096 2 жыл бұрын
15:24 And he did ! XD
@75YBA
@75YBA 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you and yours are safe and happy!
@LadyOfTheEdits
@LadyOfTheEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel! I'm going to be watching a lot of videos of yours :3
@manuelcarmona7140
@manuelcarmona7140 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Keep up the good work.
@costelinha1867
@costelinha1867 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you make a new character? Well they did, they just happen to have similar powers to the older ones.
@pro_rookie_gamedev
@pro_rookie_gamedev Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the day a movie or game will come out and these people will be like, "THE ONE PIECE!!! THE ONE PIECE OF MEDIA THAT HASN'T BEEN CORRUPTED BY WOKE POLOTICS IS REAAAAL!!!" This is the second place I've posted this joke. Also, Champions looks really good and interesting, from the 3 or so issues I read from the Gwenpool omnibus.
@duce7999
@duce7999 3 жыл бұрын
Saw you on Serfs
@costelinha1867
@costelinha1867 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling me that the school shooting scene in the Static Shock cartoon that features a black protagonist is a thing that only happens in super hero cartoons and comics.
@Falcovsleon21
@Falcovsleon21 Жыл бұрын
Please. There's only one name to refer Jeremy as: The Fat in the Hat
@padraicloingsigh421
@padraicloingsigh421 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Doom shed a tear? Bullshit! at least in current cannon. They need to retcon this, but some shithead decided to make Dr. Doom 100% irredeemable by not only making him a rapist, but also creating a bullshit sith lord story where he turns the skin of the "love of his life"(bullshit cause he wouldn't fridge her) into his fucking armor. Seriously, WTF is wrong with the person who wrote that story, as a what if, fine, but they put that buffalo bill vomit in the main fucking cannon!! anyhow, as it stands Dr. Doom is shit and I hope he is taken out of cannon until that shit is retconned. Seriously, he chooses his mother over the love of his life.. Oedipus complex anyone?
@deannasmith4443
@deannasmith4443 3 жыл бұрын
IGNORE ME!
@GhostBusters-wb4un
@GhostBusters-wb4un 2 жыл бұрын
In DC Robin was used as a tool for Nationalism in the 40’s
@yungmuney5903
@yungmuney5903 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating 1) "Less politics" or really "no politics" is ironically a decidedly political stance to take, because at minimum it favours the speaker's own politics over others and at the most, or it completely ignores the politics that the speaker entirely takes for granted. There is no apolitical stance. Seeking to invalidate an opinion because you don't "want" (read: like) the politics is in itself a political stance. These people are acting as if this is there Vietnam War, and they are conscientious objectors. But not even a conscientious objector who refused to partake in the politics of war would have called their stance apolitical. 2) not hiring creative staff "on the basis of their gender, sexuality or ethnicity" is similarly ironic, because of what it really means -- that the speaker believes too many staff from diverse and minority backgrounds are being hired. And this whole line of argument is a trap, because irrespective of why a person is hired, the speaker will always see a diverse or minority hire as "political". Of course, they will never see the opposite as political because to them, it's "normal", i.e. the politics that they take completely for granted. But because they view diversity and minority groups as inherently political identities while viewing their own identity as politically neutral, their viewpoint on these hires will never change. 3) not replacing, embarrassing (whatever tf that means for a fictional character!) or changing heroes is a very transparent hypocrisy, because these characters are changed all-time. What the speaker really means is not changing them to be representative of diverse or minority groups in ANY positive way. So again, this is another demand that is ironic because it's actually saying that replacing or changing heroes is fine as long as they are changed in ways that are politically correct to the speaker. And I'm using "political correctness" at in the way that it's supposed to be used, as a neutral term that could apply to the policing and virtue signalling of any ideology. 4) to have their complaints taken seriously and not brushed aside is bigotry. This is another ironic demand, because in most cases, they are already getting it. Their complaints ARE being taken seriously, which is why their demands consistently cause controversy; and their demands are NOT being "brushed aside" bigotry, because in most cases, they are being accurately IDENTIFIED as bigotry. Basically, the speaker is demanding to be taken objectively without bias while making a demand that thoroughly exposes their OWN biases and their own inherent blindness to them, e.g. their bigotry
@kelog5446
@kelog5446 2 жыл бұрын
I was reading X-Men(all of the x titles)since jr high and that time machine done fked me up too even though I've never been in the same region of the earth as it...
@Bentons-Crib
@Bentons-Crib Жыл бұрын
PLEASE do this with DC
@user-unos111
@user-unos111 Жыл бұрын
So many self congratulating people in the comments
@blackwingwizard8134
@blackwingwizard8134 2 жыл бұрын
Man I do
@brandonpick1486
@brandonpick1486 2 жыл бұрын
i really don't understand why people think everything that comes out is woke. i haven't seen a bad comic movie or show since Batman Begins came out. batwoman is a really good show. i mean that first season was kind of bad. but thankfully it stopped being super woke after Ruby Rose left. Captain Marvel was pretty good as well. that movie wasn't woke in any way. Birds of prey was a fucking great movie same.with both Suicide Squad Movies. basically for me if its based on a comic be it Marvel, DC or something else. it will always be good to me. even if its bad its still good. meanwhile you got people that are either not watching the movies/shows. Or you got people that come into it with the intentions of picking it apart and looking for every single flaw real or imaginary. like how do you enjoy anything in life if you're always looking for the flaws in something.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 2 жыл бұрын
Even if I might hate myself for this I never hated any superhero film. After seeing that I am a heretic and bullief hard I almost commited suicide
@B4BYD0LL_NANA
@B4BYD0LL_NANA 2 жыл бұрын
im in love with you and im supposed to be lesbian
@MyDeeroc
@MyDeeroc 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is that the marvel characters are change to black people.
@SoulGizmo
@SoulGizmo Жыл бұрын
I hate politics so ive stopped watching or reading anything with them.
@ripleyjlawman.3162
@ripleyjlawman.3162 3 жыл бұрын
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