Debunking Josephus's Testimony of Jesus's Death & Resurrection

[@grimmis9302]

This dude is literally copying testify 💀

[@willrads8969]

doing what his so-called "prophet" did with our scriptures and traditions XD

[@rqezeezezeze]

​@@willrads8969 "XD" 2024? keep relying on scriptures that came literally decades after jesus

[@joshuaoliva1288]

@@rqezeezezeze You literally rely on scriptures that come 600 years after Jesus??? Obviously you must not have known this. Very embarrassing.

[@rqezeezezeze]

@@joshuaoliva1288Okay? And you're relying on scriptures that contain barbaric and unjust verses, written by unknown authors decades after Christ. The oldest Biblical manuscript is literally 120 years after Jesus and is smaller than a credit card... Very embarrassing how you don't know this.

[@Random-ob7dc]

@@rqezeezezeze "Okay? And you're relying on scriptures that contain barbaric and unjust verses" So? Your quran contains even more barbaric and unjust verses. "written by unknown authors decades after Christ" Yours was written by a p3dofile "The oldest Biblical manuscript is literally 120 years after Jesus and is smaller than a credit card" No... The oldest biblical manuscript is the Dead Sea Scrolls, dating to around 200 years before christ... Your timeline is waayy off.

[@Lukaquestion]

Copying Testify, just like Muhammad copied Tanakh, New Testament and pagan Arab traditions and mythology

[@-AEON-]

That didn't happen. I'm astonished some of you Christians still use this recycled debunked argument in late 2024...

[@L-Lawliet14]

Correcting him you mean.

[@pizzaninja5145]

Lmao exactly 🤣

[@zgramzhnisk3036]

You are illiterate if you think the wojak explanation style originated from testify

[@EzzadinFarah]

which new testimant they change every update

[@jamestypo]

No, scholars actually don’t think that’s what Josephus said, it was probably a distortion. Here’s what it probably looked liked: At this time there was a wise man called Jesus, and his conduct was good, and he was known to be virtuous. Many people among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive. Accordingly, he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the prophets have reported wonders. And the tribe of the Christians, so named after him, has not disappeared to this day

[@Josh-te7si]

@@jamestypo no single proof for that kid. How is this a distortion. Cuz it destroyes the lie of muhamad. Proof that it was distorted.

[@jamestypo]

@ dude, i’m on your side

[@L-Lawliet14]

@@Josh-te7si Historically its distorted lil bro

[@Josh-te7si]

Ahh😂Sorry for not reading the whole thing man

[@Josh-te7si]

What evidence do you have to say that kid? The guy in the video doesnt even know what he talking about. He just used a thumbnail that debunk the crucifixion dilemma but he goes on saying "ya josephus didnt say he was the messiah,divine, 🤓 christ bla bla bla.."

[@nikolayjerev6138]

What does Orthodox mean? Are you coping this too?

[@Lucerna999]

Traditional.

[@PET1N10]

Historical evidence of people before Muhammad praying towards Kaaba? Any mentions of Mecca and Medina before the 6th century ? Any manuscript evidence for the Injeel?

[@TENGRI-101]

In fact, it doesn't exist even in arabic history (ignore islamic one). Well mecca didn't have water sources enough even for a huge village.

[@Jackkkkkkkk111]

I will do shahada right here right now if he can provide any evidence for this one 😂

[@contenthubtwo]

Just the Arabian pagans who worshipped 360 gods at the cube by rotating the cube 7x anti-clockwise and kissing the black stone. Hubal/Baal was one of the chief gods and Allāh was the Chief god with three daughters who were chief goddesses. Khadija told Muhammad he was a prophet of Allāh but the creator of the heavens and earth is not any god who was ever contained or worshipped at the cube

[@jamestypo]

Wow, more muslim misinformation and distortion. Here’s what Origen actually said: And to so great a reputation among the people for righteousness did this James rise, that Flavius Josephus, who wrote the Antiquities of the Jews in twenty books, when wishing to exhibit the cause why the people suffered so great misfortunes that even the temple was razed to the ground, said, that these things happened to them in accordance with the wrath of God in consequence of the things which they had dared to do against James the brother of Jesus who is called Christ. And the wonderful thing is, that, though he did not accept Jesus as Christ, he yet gave testimony that the righteousness of James was so great; and he says that the people thought that they had suffered these things because of James.

[@TENGRI-101]

IDK about biblical things he's claiming. But am sure that he can't defend aisha's marriage. Well they can't condemn it 'cos the whole book was narrated by whom married aisha 😆

[@jamestypo]

@@TENGRI-101?

[@rqezeezezeze]

@@TENGRI-101 haha is that the only argument u can stick to? jesus literally condones child marriage when he saud "follow everythign the pharisees teach"

[@nahom17asrat63]

O my days flat lie😅​@@rqezeezezeze

[@deformissimia6935]

Without lies, Islam dies!

[@qasmb1546]

Yeah bro every scripture is corrupted but yours right? How can anyone with half a brain take this seriously?

[@rqezeezezeze]

Yes. It follows logically that Allah swt will preserve the Quran as it is the final revelation intended for humanity

[@qasmb1546]

​@@rqezeezezeze You clearly do not understand logic. Quran over and over says it came to CONFIRM previous revelation one example is 3.3, that's one of the proofs of Quran. *If the previous scriptures are ALL corrupted, how do we confirm the Final one?* It fails its own verification test.

[@Seek_knowledge123]

find ONE contradiction in the Quran! YOU WILL NOT!

[@rqezeezezeze]

the term "musaddiq" doesnt necessarily imply that every single part of the previous scriptures is uncorrupted. the quran confirms the original unaltered previous revelations

[@qasmb1546]

@@rqezeezezeze It clearly says confirming (Musaadiq) the previous scriptures, why on earth would you assume it only means some parts when it dont explicitly or inexplicitly say that? *Why dont you let the text speak for itself.*

[@User81981]

‘’Which has let the overwhelming majority to either say it’s completely inauthentic or partially inauthentic.’’ 🤔 Interesting how you don’t expand on this comment…how about you inform your audience that the majority of scholars do believe it underwent interpolation, however the majority also believe is has an authentic core which claims he was crucified. The whole reason us Christian use the Testimonium Flavianum is to demonstrate Jesus was crucified, even if it underwent interpolation it doesn’t change the fact it can still be used to demonstrate this, as even without the interpolation it affirms his death by crucifixion. Infact there was an Arabic version of the Testimonium Flavianum found, which strongly supports the idea that this passage has an authentic core, this Arabic version appears to present that, it reads: ‘’At this time there was a wise man called Jesus. His conduct was good and (he) was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die.’’ As we can see it presents a version with less (if any at all) interpolation.

[@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful]

The problem is that even this transition is prone to criticism because it only removes some of the Christian additions to Josephus' original text. That's why it's still so Christan-like. Beyond that, this transition is from the 10th century so almost 1000 years later.

[@User81981]

@ how exactly is it, ‘’so Christian Like’’? Other then the fact it calls him a wise man, the rest of it looks like it’s simply conveying historical information about him.

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

This manuscript of agapius is a Syriac translation from Eusebius, also an interpolation of Christian’s removing of what Josephus wouldn’t have likely said.

[@quandale1200]

It could also hint at the circulating story of the virgin birth, as in A.A. Bell, 'Josephus the Satirist? A Clue to the Original Form of the Testimonium Flavianum.'. A good paper which kind of reconstructs the core is '"To Be or to Be Thought to Be": The Testimonium Flavianum (Again)' by John Curran

[@Josh-te7si]

JOSEPHUS DIDNT BELIEVE THAT HE WAS THE CHRIST!!! you just read it bruv. Josephus mentioned him as "so called christ" considering the assumption of many jews at that time.

[@xxsqf]

Where does he said Joe believes jesus pbuh as Christ .?

[@Josh-te7si]

@@xxsqf 😂 he just quoted our holy church father of Alexandria saying "josephus doesnt believe he was the christ" as a reason for the forgery of the testimony. But we totally agree that josephus didnt believe he was the messiah he was a jew. So what makes the testimony of jesus' crucifixion forgery???

[@xxsqf]

@Josh-te7si we it is true that alot of Josephus works have been made into forgery idk why he said that then

[@edwardboness25]

No serious scholar doubts the original quote as authentic. Yet this munafiq thinks he's smarter than them. Laughable

[@deformissimia6935]

Oh, Jesus the Christ, Your glory is so significant that Satan had to deceive a certain man to create a religion that denies your divinity!

[@drewcorcoran9251]

Obviously he didn’t believe that Jesus rose from the dead. But the whole point using Josephus is to prove that Jesus existed and that he was believed to be the messiah which it helps to prove

[@Notled-no4ki]

Very knowledgable video akh, keep it up, Barakallahu Feek.

[@thanushk]

Brother , how long you will support this prophet momo. It's of no use

[@dcrypt9107]

are u Restarted Akih ? obviously what the question here is if Jesus was Crucified, you are going on a tangent to connect the connected to say Josephus believes in Jesus divinity, was he crucified or not ?, you don't want to go there because you know it will trash the Quran there and there. Josephus ain't the only one btw, would love to see you make a video denying all information about Christ's Crucifixion to be false (Catch is, do it without using Islamic sources )

[@reuxygneln]

The Quran claims that people believed that Jesus was crucified. Historical sources about his crucifixion show that people who wrote them believed that he was crucified. There is no contradiction

[@Josh-te7si]

@@reuxygneln bruhh out of topic. Josephus explicity recorded his crucifixion. He didnt knew that by reading biblical sources. He is a historian who collects his information by many kinds in ways(even communicating with the ppl that lived in the era of jesus)

[@reuxygneln]

@@Josh-te7si I think it doesn't change the point

[@Leopard_Star5667]

Nice. You make Pretty Informative videos Akhi

[@TENGRI-101]

By any chance, how old was aisha when Josephus wrote something? It was 6, wasn't it? 🤔

[@deformissimia6935]

Maybe, maybe 9.

[@brokeboiacey5674]

Make a video about the Christian dilemma, regarding Jesus knowledge of the hour. If jesus didn’t know the hour, he cannot be god if he did know the hour but didn’t wanna declare it, he played dumb which is a form of lying and that contradicts numbers 23:19 which would mean he cannot be god.

[@otyllo]

Are you still in 3D when you play a 2D game? He can have limits despite being a God. He is God in nature, which means that as a ruler above creation he is not selfish. Despite fealing everything as we do he does what his soul desires above his bodily needs. That is a Kabalistic interpretation of God, God is the only being with a will to bestow. God doesn't need anything. There is no selfishness in God almighty. He as a soul has no issue dying. His body may be tired or hungry or in pain. Still his soul will prevail. Sin has no hold over him. Death is just a state of body, not spirit. Jesus can't be less than buddhist enligtened beings. He is much more than them. I can quote both Jesus and buddhist, to show you that he is a great spiritual man. Containing all their best qualities with no issues that they posses.

[@DivineJustice-xl1jw]

Um no stop using that argument the original Greek word was Oiden ne pies it means to tell or to inform when Paul wrote that he meant Jesus wouldn’t tell it not because he didn’t know but he wanted his father god to lay out everything and tell it’s gonna be it’s like you getting married, you know everything that’s going to happen but you want your father to arrange it l, that’s what happens that bible verse was just a mistranslation stop using it Paul’s Greek word was to inform and what it said was that only the father will inform as that is his job so yes Jesus does know the hour but it is not his mission and when rapture comes people who truly believe in him(not Muslims) would be carried to heaven while people who did and took the mark would be condemned to hell like your prophet and all the Muslims, Jesus is the only way the truth and the life.

[@DivineJustice-xl1jw]

Um no stop using that argument the original Greek word was Oiden ne pies it means to tell or to inform when Paul wrote that he meant Jesus wouldn’t tell it not because he didn’t know but he wanted his father god to lay out everything and tell it’s gonna be it’s like you getting married, you know everything that’s going to happen but you want your father to arrange it l, that’s what happens that bible verse was just a mistranslation stop using it Paul’s Greek word was to inform and what it said was that only the father will inform as that is his job so yes Jesus does know the hour but it is not his mission and when rapture comes people who truly believe in him(not Muslims) would be carried to heaven while people who didn’t and took the mark would be condemned to hell like your prophet and all the Muslims, Jesus is the only way the truth and the life.

[@fildafernandes4366]

So your still on step 1?

[@R007CarrotVUX]

Christians are being dumb here; No, it doth not signify to inform or whatever. *Only the Father knoweth the Hour.* Jesus didn't. Your claims about the Greek manuscripts are wrong, whereas my claims about the English manuscripts are right (Mark 13:32) alas, he ith not God, for he doth not know everything.

[@Ondonol_]

Hey brother can i ask you somthing? Are you Bosnian?

[@Hmm78889]

He is from libya

[@Ondonol_]

@Hmm78889 Relly?

[@SultanFinnad]

Gonna debunk this soon

[@gamerjj777]

So?

[@Gazaruu]

can you make a video about are the gospels written by eye witnesses?

[@Josh-te7si]

@@Gazaruu ya they are why do you think there not??

[@Gazaruu]

@@Josh-te7si lack of early manuscripts, lack of knowledge of the so called authors etc

[@MrApoons]

@@Gazaruu Muhammadin talking about a lack of early manuscript is the biggest joke ever, since they dont have hadith manuscript prior to the 14th... It's even worse for your sira. All gospel athors are well attested, from writting of the next generation.

[@Gazaruu]

@ that is a flat out lie. The earliest written Hadith collection was 100 years after HIRJI if u even know what that is. Seerah isn’t scripture so that’s a red herring + seerah is based on Hadiths. Paulians caught lying 🤥

[@Josh-te7si]

@@Gazaruu my god😂😂😂. You dont have a single hadith that date back to muhamad. All are 8,910,11th century writings and the remains of the manuscripts are way older than 11th century

[@foresttaylor7850]

The presentation of this video and your speaking was good, but I feel like your argument is very weak. I only got 2 main points from you: that (1) your version of the document says "so-called." and (2) that it was so unlikely for a Jew to record pro-Christian testimony that the reader should dismiss it. Neither of these points are fact based arguments: at worst, they are inferences based on literary tone, and at best they are remote possibilities. A dissatisfying watch

[@theologyroom]

Excellent content.

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

Glad you think so!

[@Uhshyu]

BRO THIS CONTENT IS GOLD

[@SatireRON]

Yes, shit covered in gold leaf.

[@kromiekaze2277]

can you make a video about the lineage of the prophet muhammed pbuh I love your videos akh

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

What do you mean video about the lineage ?

[@Notled-no4ki]

@@MuslimOrthodoxy I assume he means connection to Ishmael(AS)

[@alwingeorge5283]

​@@Notled-no4ki😂😂😂 Pedo army

[@MrDaftFunk]

Only jews can be prophets of the true God. Prophets ended with Jesus. Unless your saying muhammad was a jew.....maybe he was??

[@easop9768]

Great video

[@LifeLyne2099]

It's kinda funny bc this hurts Muslims more than it does Christianity. Debunk it if you want.

[@DawahSnippets]

Allahumma barik

[@FuryWZM]

Basically Jesus finished this story himself Mark 10:18 jesus says he is not good only God is Good , so if he were a God , then this is a hypocrisy and i know God is not a hypocrrite

[@اوابعبدالهادي-ح2خ]

You are liar ...he didn't say that .

[@FuryWZM]

@@اوابعبدالهادي-ح2خ I gave you refrence mark 10:18

[@georgiacap9294]

John 10:11 Jesus said “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep”. Looks like Jesus called Himself ‘good’.

[@FuryWZM]

@@georgiacap9294 Then that is contradiciton , first he says he is not Good then he says good , then it is error Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD ? there is none good but one, that is, God.

[@NailTouze-l2k]

​​​​@@FuryWZMwhere Jesus said "I am not Good"? Mark 10:[18] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. [19] Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother. Jesus said only God is Good, so he refering himself God Matthew 22:[32] I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Hallelujah Jesus said I am God There's no passage Jesus said "I am not perfect" I agree with you there is a Contradiction in your Life

[@bhatsahil9267]

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