DEBUNKING Meghan Markle CONSPIRACY Theories? 🤔

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Shauna x Conspiracy theories swirl around the subject of Meghan Markle and they seem to get more and more outlandish as time goes on...
In this video I let you know what I really think!
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[@thevintageread]

I’m going to share YOUR thoughts in a second video so keep the comments coming. Will be interesting to present all sides! ❤

[@lynnewilliams6662]

I don’t understand with all the money she earned she owned nothing …no house no car . ❤️❤️❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@elizabliss6528]

Rented a 1 bedroom flat and owed a lot of rent. Allegedly.

[@thevintageread]

I don’t think she’d worked out where she wanted to live after Suits finished.

[@elizabliss6528]

@@thevintageread Quite possibly, leaving her options open 😉

[@lynnewilliams6662]

@@thevintageread I was thinking more in investments in property more than forever homes but I do agree that she had no idea where she was going next and still doesn’t 🤣🤣🤣

[@debranielsen2002]

The fact that you have to make a disclaimer because people might disagree 🤦🏼‍♀️ What a world we live in.

[@thevintageread]

Yes indeed!

[@imalison]

I was just talking to my NYC bus driver about this and how ridiculous it is that people can’t speak anymore. (you can tell we’re over 50)

[@psarapsych]

That was my first thought. Well said.

[@hellpoint7534]

I have drifted away from some channels I previously enjoyed because people get so annoyed you don't join the pile on , if you question details of intricate conspiracy theories or point out conflicting facts. I prefer a balanced approach where things are not necessarily black or white and people are allowed to have a conflicting view. Just as the Harkles lose credibility when they exaggerate car chases, the rest of us lose credibility when we exaggerate or create stories out of thin air.

[@L8MeGuess]

Pre 2014/15 I remember when people disagreed they’d either offer a differing opinion or be silent and smile and say ok. Or walk away if it’s too hard. Lately it’s just disagree? DEATH THREATS! But I’ve never personally seen these death threats everyone talks about.. so who knows.

[@Joyof...]

After reading all the really despicable and sordid things that actually DO go on among the rich and famous, nothing would surprise me. I also do not think a nobody like Markle can bag a prince or get gifted blood diamonds from the Saudis without partaking in the seedier side of things. That's my opinion. 😊

[@auburn1945-nh2fm]

exactly. because if the "rumors" were untrue sue happy Nutmeg would have sued everyone by now. pure bullshit.

[@monicaburdett236]

I trust your judgement Shauna. But to be honest, I really don't care about this woman. All I care about is for her to lose her title and NEVER have anything to do with the RF. This woman is poison, there is nothing endearing about her. If the traitor stays with her, then so be it. He's not welcomed or wanted back in the Royal Family by the majority of the UK public. They can live their lives however them want, providing we don't have to suffer them.

[@thevintageread]

I hear you 💗

[@MaryB-tx2xq]

That’s exactly how I feel too. H&M need to just shut up and go away, stop looking for publicity and stop any connection to our RF, and stop exploiting veterans for attention

[@user-xi1br6ur1q]

Well said. I am not sure she is a yacht girl, never heard of it really until a year or so ago.

[@musicandbooklover-p2o]

@@user-xi1br6ur1q A lot of other conspiracies were first put out by ''anonymous'' when you track them down to the first mention - eg the ''she glued a girl's eyes together with superglue'' - and other's have been investigated and there has been absolutely no proof found. Plus if her father paid off all the people he is alleged to have paid off then he had a heck of a lot more money than has been claimed.

[@valeriehoward6088]

Harry lost everything he has ever known because of her. She has something over him that will tie him to her for has long has she wants him. Then after that his life will come falling down around him.

[@ferociousgumby]

There's only one thing I'd add to the conversation, and that is that I think she actually enjoys keeping these conspiracy theories going, because it's ATTENTION and she will die without it. It honestly seems as if she does not even care if the attention is positive or negative. My feeling is we'll never pick it all apart. It would take a court case, and that won't happen. I remember how Elizabeth Holmes' dynasty crashed down in flames, but not before an investigative journalist (John Carreyrou) wrote a brilliant book dissecting her criminal activities. That won't happen here, but right now it seems like a similar hurricane of half-truths and whole lies.

[@user-nw3xc2tk6y]

yes, I think a lot come from the Sussex camp in the first place huh

[@ewingshannon]

I think she *prefers* the negative, which feeds into her victimology. The more, the better. She's really sick.

[@persnickety369]

Sometimes it's difficult for stable people to imagine and believe the things deviant people do. Just because someone has reached a level of financial security and status doesn't mean they are above deviant or treacherous, self-serving behavior. Look at what all Amber Heard had going for her ... 🤔 Just bc you can't imagine it "making sense" doesn't mean it didn't happen. 🤷‍♀️

[@carolbythesea]

Normal and healthy people find it impossible to imagine how a narcissistic mind works. It’s unimaginable and unthinkable to most people what a narcissistic is capable of.

[@thevocalcrone]

@@carolbythesea I am nearly sixty and have a narcissist mother. I still struggle to understand it. I was lied to yesterday and ended up in a conversation with my brother about what where and how their mind works and that is after studying it. they will lie about the most trivial of things, deflect, blame always innocent, and frankly my thoughts run to that there must be something to gain from lying surely? but not always with a narcissist is it possible to work out what they are tryin to achieve with their lies.

[@LKMNOP]

Except that there's no evidence whatsoever that Megan is deviant. I would say she's evil in the things that she does and manipulative, but that's very different than deviant.

[@LKMNOP]

​@@carolbytheseaGo look up the medical definition of narcissist. It does not denote deviant at all. Everyone's using that term to include every mental thing out there. And it's just not true. And no I'm not defending Markle. I despise her. But let's stick to facts. And for one thing, if it's proven that the yacht girl image is wrong, then people won't believe other things that are true.

[@violetacalayan-yh8wq]

She does have a history of hooking up with another man when still in supposed serious relationship.

[@dibryan5061]

Have to pull you up dear friend on one important point “they were in love” MM is incapable of loving anything or anyone IMO. 🇦🇺🦘

[@thevintageread]

Ok I’ll concede that 😂👏

[@LET337]

I think maybe she has one love - money

[@Odo55]

​@@LET337... or her only true love, the image in the mirror

[@textrue9088]

@@LET337 Not more than for herself.

[@efstathiakositzidou2490]

I absolutely agree with this. She loves only one person, I think, herself!

[@jamm9202]

Idk if she was on yachts or not but she definitely overlaps boyfriends. She’s with one and before she ends it completely, she’s found another. So her being with Trevor or Cory (and perhaps Harry 🤔?) really doesn’t matter. Meghan looks out for Meghan.

[@gix2lee]

From this video, she sounds like such a hardworking person and that she was satisfied w what she had accomplished. However, you’re not taking into account her drive for attention and to move up to A lister status. This has been shown from when she was a child, to be better than everyone. You missed a very large part of who she is. Being a yacht girl is not just for money for her. It’s about attention, for connections to powerful people and how she can get ahead.

[@karenturner7184]

A little black book to use in layer life!!

[@nancyforwand7726]

I agree. Before she met Trevor and before she lived with Corey, I believe she had plenty of time to "mess around". She was flinging with Harry while living with Corey. Trevor didn't know where she was during the daytime. Disagree with you.

[@kirri1312]

@@nancyforwand7726In between Trevor and Corey was also an ice hockey player, but it was very casual and it’s during that time I think she experimented in being a “working girl “

[@nancyforwand7726]

Also she had a fling with the golfer Rory...again while she lived FREE with Corey. She live free with Trevor for 10 years before their marriage, too. I've read that in several publications. When you really look at her past, from her dad until present, she always had a man taking care of her. Oh yeah, a real working girl. "Suits" was not going to renew her contract which had just run out, so she ran to England hoping to grab a rich one, And she did.

[@MaryB-tx2xq]

The trouble with some of the theories is that the more outlandish they are the more the real behaviour is forgotten or not believed. I sometimes despair when I read some things because I think it gives fuel to MM and the sugars to be able to say she’s being targeted unfairly. I heartily dislike MM for what I know (and have seen) what she’s done, I don’t need to think there’s anything else/hidden to continue to despise her behaviour and dislike her for it

[@isabellak1394]

You've hit the nail on the head, this is exactly the way I feel. Well said.

[@Nikkers8]

Me too! It is easy to dismiss the anti-MM when speculation is presented as fact. Then the MANY provable facts get pushed aside. She has done enough horrible things that are provable - I have no desire to get into conspiracies without real, tangible proof.

[@carolwilson6281]

Meghan's character isn't nice and is enough to go off. No need to make things up she is her own worst enemy and will create her own downfall.

[@rachmunshine9474]

I’ve bothered to reply that to a few people who are 100% sure about something that just didn’t seem like we had any facts to back it up just theories. My point was she’s (they now) are bad enough without adding things we don’t know for a fact! It just makes those of us who do not like her (and have been vocal about it at times) look stupid like just haters in my opinion. they do enough crazy bad stuff that we can see with our own eyes all on their own. And I’m sure there’s a number of things they did behind the scenes to the Royal family when they were still living there that would make us vomit. But I just feel like unless we can point to pretty irrefutable proof to her actual fans - which somehow still seem to exist - then we’re just watering down any arguments against her being a good person.

[@michelleb3698]

@@rachmunshine9474 I agree. Some of the conspiracies seem a bit absurd, along with lacking concrete evidence. But MM's been exposed as a liar, and gave different versions of events - first date, engagement, etc. It's no surprise speculation occurs. Bower cited the source, Violet von Westenholz as the one who setting up set their meeting. They would likely sue if he was wrong. I think MM gave a revised version in Spare and Netflix in a bid to discredit Bower because they can't take legal action. It's appears MM's covering of her lies has caused these rumours/conspiracies.

[@jaygatsby2790]

I think you're making these observations without considering two things: Meghan's insatiable greed, and her overweening ambition to be at the very top no matter what the cost. And as we've seen, she's not in the least averse to endangering her reputation and putting everything on the line to achieve whatever "victory" her little mind thinks is a win for her (e.g. going against the Royal Family thinking she'll win). While she was a struggling actress she had relatively small ambitions but I think Marcus Anderson was her gateway to really seeing what she could achieve. Through the Mulroneys she saw what status, power, and money could bring, then she met Marcus and did her Soho House "gigs" with wealthy, powerful men and that's when her ambitions went "global", so to speak. As Harry himself said in Spare, Meghan kept a suitcase at Soho House in London for when she has to work, and that her "work" took her to different countries. Suits was filmed in Toronto. What sort of "work" does Meghan do that a hotel/club would actually keep a suitcase for her so she's able to jet off to different parts of the world presumably at a moment's notice?

[@thevintageread]

Well over that 2 years she was getting more and more promotional gigs…for products (Dove) red carpet appearances for brand promos, plus speaking engagements and charity gigs via Gina Nelthorpe Cowne. I think Markus just organised it for her because they were mates.

[@loots9821]

Very true, how many other actors or actresses leave a suitcase of clothes in private clubs around the world? If that was the case all these clubs would be full of suitcases. An owner would not let her do that unless she was on the payroll, so to speak. There isn't a doubt in my mind that she "entertained" for Soho House high rollers. Her & Marcus set it up together for what they could get out of the wealthy clients.

[@jaygatsby2790]

@@thevintageread Speaking engagements? Charity gigs? Brand promos? Were all these activities done at Soho House? And anyway, I don't believe these activities were frequent enough that would warrant keeping a permanent suitcase at Soho House. And I think Meghan and Markus are "mates" in the same way that Ghislaine Maxwell and Virginia Guiffre were "mates". *wink*wink*

[@carolbythesea]

Absolutely!@@loots9821

[@thevocalcrone]

@@thevintageread I think MM would be hard to market for promotional gigs and speaking gigs.. if you have watched TED talkers and then watch MM talking.. she does do the word salad and has a nauseating, patronising and cringe tone and that would repel attendees. I've seen LOTS of public speaking gigs (part of doing my studies) and the good speakers (especially humanitarian and motivational ones) are full of life and expression, they may be repeating the same message in their speeches but they dont sound contrived or insincere. Try researching Brene Brown for instance or any speaker on TED to be honest:)

[@Odo55]

MeMe is loving all of this speculation, conspiracy theories, controversy etc.about herself❗

[@chimerat8012]

ABSOLUTELY.

[@DennisMcCoy-b2r]

Then why does she never leave the house? If she doesn't care whether attention is negative then why didn't she go to the coronation? People would have been so offended and the press would never let it go

[@MarieEllis7]

Thank you Shauna for being a voice of reason. Some conspiracy theories on other channels are too far fetched. I'm definitely not a fan of the grifter MM by the way 😅

[@TardyGater73]

I think MM is an unpleasant enough person and a shoddy enough example, without all the conspiracy theories.. All they do is muddy the waters and give her reason to say that she is being victimised to excuse her and her husband's cruelties towards his dying grandparents. The wrongs they have done together are quite sufficient to have produced the distaste for them they have earned.

[@lido6457]

Trevor would have had no idea about the yachting, just like he never seen the marriage ending when she posted the rings back to him 😜😜😜

[@loots9821]

No way was she earning that much!

[@ladytamaya4737]

googled and it shows $50k oer episode

[@loots9821]

@@ladytamaya4737 do you trust everything Google tells you?

[@lebkha]

Being a high end yacht girl is never about money is all about the connections; those elites are similar to what's depicted in the movie Eyes Wide Shut!!! Everyone who's anyone participate in this on the down low.

[@user-fp6mp7hg8b]

So true !

[@mario-qi3yw]

I’ve never heard the soho house call girl conspiracy. The yacht girl one I’ve heard. Either way what I do believe about her is that she’s low class, no morals and incapable of loving anyone but herself. The way she chooses to earn her money really doesn’t matter. Your wonderful Shauna. Thank you.❤

[@Agnar669]

Well Harry alludes to what one suspects...he is taken in through a back entrance, down a hall, Meghan's luggage is stored there, even when she is not there, and when they knock on her door, she flings it open and Harry is dragged in in one foul swoop.....She waves the guy off and H is immediately, taken care of.....Also, the guy from Soho House allegedly lives with them, on and off, and is seen in nearly every photo lurking in the background. Marcus Anderson.

[@jan6986]

It's difficult to believe she was making the money you quoted. It was a tv cable show that no one had heard of. Filmed in Canada. Naw!!🤔

[@pollyparrot9447]

Some of the most popular shows on TV are and have been filmed in Canada! What's your beef with Canada?

[@gingernightmare9152]

Production companies go to Canada to film to save money. Tighter, lower-budget cable TV. @@pollyparrot9447

[@jan6986]

@@pollyparrot9447 love Canada ❤️ just no one ever heard of suits until mm shagged Hawwy.

[@deeshires8721]

I watched Suits from the beginning, not for Megan’s character lol. Always enjoyed it till actually they made Megan’s character bigger. I liked to her better as the shy hard to get character. The men were the stars of the show!

[@deeshires8721]

Top shows the main people get 1 million an episode plus money for reruns!

[@wendystavinoha5618]

I agree with every word you said. And believe me. I am NO fan of MM. I have loathed her ever since the Oprah interview and her mocking curtsey. BUT...from the beginning of time, every unpopular woman in history has been called a "ho"__starting with Mary Magdalene.

[@pollyparrot9447]

You're quite right. It's depressing that it is mostly women who are pushing this malicious nonsense.

[@thevintageread]

Correct!

[@Anna_Key]

Hopefully there will be no nasty comments. We can all have different opinions on what's going on. The most interesting part of the suss-ex-royal saga is learning about narcissists and toxic relationships. They are a gold mine of the worst character traits. That said, I do think Soho House is a hookup joint for sugar daddies and sugar babies. And that's why when Harry "first" saw that dog filter picture of her, he asked "his friend" about her and his friend said there were other people asking about her too.... 👀

[@thevintageread]

Love the eye emoji 😂👏

[@kathyevans2968]

As always, I love your logical and reasonable analysis & viewpoints.

[@thevintageread]

Thank you kindly!

[@Loobylooto2]

Most of the sex workers I’ve ever known have had a personal life well away from their work life - family, boyfriends husband etc some kept the sex work quiet others shared the what they did It’s not a big stretch of the imagination as to what’s occurred

[@carolbythesea]

Yes, well said. When I first saw the engagement announcement video when they walked out to meet the photographers, I thought to myself: “she’s behaving and looks like the call girls I’ve seen in upscale venues”.

[@edronc2007]

​@@carolbytheseaYou wouldn't recognize a really top class call girl as such.

[@user-ms5eq7fl6y]

But if there is no evidence, why assume it?

[@barbrajustice4461]

Thank you, I'm so tired of complicated conspiracy theories, remember, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

[@user-xi1br6ur1q]

Agreed.

[@Susan-vl8ts]

Earning $75k an episode is very common, especially after several seasons. You have to deduct agent, manager, attorneys fees - not to mention taxes. She didn't own a house and she rented a car. You also have to save your money if you don't have any potential roles - and Meghan was never offered a film role or even another tv show. She needed a game plan and that included a wealthy man.

[@thevintageread]

Of course! My video was about the extreme theories…I have made plenty of videos about her chase for Harry!

[@evelynhillier2877]

A normal person wouldn't risk their relationship by becoming a yacht girl, but she isn't normal. She's a narcissist and the normal rules don't apply. She firmly believes in her own invincibility and that whatever she chooses to do cannot possibly be wrong. She does whatever she wants because she 'knows' whatever she wants is right and proper, and her just due. She is deluded!

[@KnutFan]

I am with you on this one! What irritates me about all those conspiracy theory channels that cover Markle is that they lay out so-called “facts “and people believe them! To me, it’s very clear that all these so-called facts are pure conjecture. If I mention anything like that in a comment under one of those videos, I get attacked.😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@thevintageread]

Exactly!!

[@eshiestrik2756]

I agree with you! I no longer watch channels that push the conspiracy theories. They don't help the cause.

[@patriciaschoffelen2299]

She went on a yacht trip, she even told about it in The Tig. It is all about making connections in this circle. But that doesn't mean she "worked" as a yacht girl. I went on sailing trips and so did my friends, it only made me poorer😅

[@avissmith8384]

Shauna just as a thought M had it all for the future with the Royal family and she threw that all away!

[@thevintageread]

Indeed she did!

[@Carole67182]

Agreed. I think her enormous ego just couldn't stand the thought of showing deference to Catharine and Charlotte for the rest of her life that did her in.

[@evasfinch8687]

You're going on the premise that she has morals. Bless your heart.

[@thevintageread]

Ouch! There is that very sarcastic bless your heart! 😂💗

[@lorettalindamood1345]

You must be from the south !😊 please be kind to Shauna !!😊

[@evasfinch8687]

Not from the south but I have lots of southern friends.@@lorettalindamood1345 I was being kind. She's much kinder to Rachel than I will ever be and I find it admirable.

[@evasfinch8687]

@@thevintageread Perhaps. But I do admire your ability to stay neutral on this very toxic person.

[@bluerose_11]

😂 ...exactly though!

[@jhill7904]

Thank you for sharing your opinion! I do agree with a lot of what you think. That is the perfect example of “free speech”. Have a great day! Thanks 😊

[@thevocalcrone]

my thoughts, are to retain an open mind. As you say - a grain of truth can be stretched. My understandings is that there is a high class agency which is like a dating agency but involves yachts and the worlds highflyers. I can''t remember the name of it but I do recall researching and finding a newspaper report that refers to Eugenie working at the same agency. This doesn't mean its an 'escort agency', there are plenty of dating websites around. I find it plausible that if MM was in between partners that she may have started 'window shopping' (or less happy in her marriage) with an eye on the next meal ticket because she was also aging and actresses in Holly wood have a use by date. So i don't see her out there as a high class hooker, but I can see her throwing out a fishing line trying to 'catch a big one'.

[@eve_in_paris]

Love your no nonsense approach and your work ethics! And you’re just the best in sharing a nuanced opinion 👏 It’s not all or nothing. Well done (again)!!!

[@thevintageread]

I appreciate that!

[@mellie5899]

I respect your opinion, Shauna, but have seen far too many receipts to agree with it. And from personal experience with a narcissist I know that they can act in ways that are unfathomable to someone who isn't a narcissist. While a normal person wouldn't risk all they had to aim for more by being a yacht girl for the super rich, a narcissist would. She didn't love Trevor to begin with or she couldn't have done what she did to him by returning his ring by post when they hadn't even had a falling out. He was blindsided. Narcissists literally don't see other people as human beings with feelings and they think they are invincible.

[@carolbythesea]

Yes, narcissists and sociopaths take risks because they believe they are above the rules. They also believe they are smarter or more clever than everyone else and will never get caught.

[@TootF4iry]

Agree

[@jusuiselisabeth]

Perfect description of the sickness of narcissist actions and their disregard of any consequences.

[@loopyloo788]

Totally agree with all you’ve said. How these people have the bare faced cheek to face others after what they do and say never ceases to amaze me. Yet they do it like they’ve done no wrong. 🤷‍♀️

[@run4cmt]

She earned money and connection by yachting. Also she was still seeing Cory when she started dating Harry.

[@lizaltieri]

🎉 Yes! Recent yachting stories don't make sense. Also, how else can it be said except that while she was, of course, good-looking but she simply wasn't in the high-end yacht girl league. The well-known picture of MM and others on the deck is obviously a bunch of women who've rented a boat for a vacation. However, Cory Vitiello did work late hours while MM very aggressively networked. It makes sense that she deployed Markus Anderson in her goal to land big fishes through Soho House parties but, as you say, there's a lot of distance between socially targeted partying and escorting. 🥂🍾

[@marblehead2500]

I am inclined to believe that when MM was “with” Trevor and Cory, she was not necessarily faithful or monogamous. She traveled a lot for work, to many locations, and had lots of opportunities to meet up with men for a night or two. The money and the intrigue would flatter and appeal to her. The logistics would be manageable. However, there is not any solid evidence that I’ve seen to make me sure of it.

[@gingernightmare9152]

Her special friend Rory McIlroy is known to buy expensive gifts for women.

[@wendieking4184]

That’s the point there’s no proof. Someone just said it was so, and everyone believes it. Proof not theories.

[@renekirebornrenekireborn4777]

I think opinions are formed by life experiences so it stands to reason that everyone will have a different one based on their own unique lives. The fact that some people can’t understand that this is not meant to be offensive, boggles my mind 🙃 I can confirm that no one was harmed while watching this video 😂

[@thevintageread]

👏💗👏

[@chimerat8012]

Regarding your last sentence, you clearly do not know that every time you say you do not believe in a conspiracy theory, a conspiracy theory dies.🙃😉

[@reddisa2953]

There are the comments from the woman who runs golf tournaments who said mm was one of the most popular 'caddies'. Just recently there was a statement from a hotel owner on St Barts. It would seem that, despite being married and in a relationship prior to meeting and marrying h, she spent much time 'playing' away.

[@Marlene521]

MM has given us a lot of evidence about her personality and the lies she has told. I can see for myself what a horrible person she is. I don't need to know everything she's done in her life. The way she treated Prince Phillip and our late Queen is all I needed to know about her character. The lies she has told and the damage to the Monarchy is evidence enough. If reliable information comes out down the line, I will have a look. Otherwise, I don't spend my time chasing down stories. My opinions are based on what I've seen and heard. Some ppl believe in "all or nothing", black and white thinking. If you are not critical enough about MM, You are definitely on her side. It just doesn't work that way. Thanks for the video.

[@marensweet719]

I truly do appreciate everything that you said Shauna, and precisely where you were going with it. However you yourself have been pointing out all of the things that Meghan has been potentially doing behind the scenes to manipulate Harry and other members of the Royal Family. Including the segment about the Rules. Therefore I have to respectfully disagree with you as I simply do not believe that Meghan ever loved any one man over herself. This is after all, a woman who is still estranged from her own father who still loves her and is very much obsessed with the late Princess Diana as well as her untimely demise. I still believe that poor Trevor and the chef were mere stepping stones on her way to the top. I think Meghan is beyond ambitious. I mean remember the pooch she adopted and said died or was forced to give up. If she can do that to an innocent animal… ain't nothing or no one person not even her late Majesty the Queen (God Rest her blessed soul) is ever going to stand in the way of whatever it is that she wants or even when she wants it either. I also believe very strongly that Harry having been then and still partially now besotted with Meghan that he did virtually everything and anything that he could possibly think of to in physically thwart the rest of the Monarchy from learning the truth about Meghan and her actual background. I think that it is also one of the predominant reasons behind Megexit actually. Remember the wedding and even members of their own staff who were abused by Meghan? To which Jason Knauf called her out for having done? I understand what you are saying; but please look at what Harry himself has done in recent years to his fellow countrymen (the British people; the UK) as well as his own family based on a pack of lies by her. So Meghan certainly knows how to pull all the right levers. And it is also quite possible too that in order to fund The Tig and other ventures of hers in the wings… especially since The Working Actress had ultimately revealed some of the truth…that in her mind she had no other alternative to but to go yachting. And rather frequently might I add. After all, it would have still been considered yet another way for her to network with others.

[@thevintageread]

Yes there is a lot that is provable 💗

[@user-nw3xc2tk6y]

She simply said she didn't believe that MM was a Yacht girl after she met Trevor or that she worked as an escort at Soho House and that was it - so I have no idea what you saw.

[@marensweet719]

@@user-nw3xc2tk6y Meghan created a blog around 2010 entitled The Working Actress in which she describes her frustrations about the harsh realities of being an actress. This was the same blog that Shauna had also brought up during a recent broadcast as well. And I was simply implying that if the what Meghan wrote on TWA blog was at all accurate and truthful then it would make perfect sense that she (Meghan) would in fact become a yacht girl as implied because in her mind it would have simply been yet another way to discreetly climb up the social ladder and network with others who were far more influential than herself. The bottom line: Meghan could never have reached the upper echelons of aristocratic British society without having been able to get in touch with all the right people and that also requires an awful lot of networking and so much more. Because it is a mighty gigantic leap to go directly from Trevor Engelson to Harry. And there is substantial evidence and proof online that Meghan was doing a number of very questionable things behind Trevor Engelson's back during their marriage as well.

[@artemisjuno]

I have never paid much attention to any of the conspiracy theories about MM. That being said you have to admit that a whole lot of weirdness has surrounded her from strange frienships with rabidly anti-monarchy elderly Irish politicians, a marriage to Engelson remarkable for no photographs permitted,lasting a year and a half, a strange relationship with Cory Vittiello where she spent little time with him, a deep and steadfast,loving relationship with Marcus (look at the photos) all culminating in the greatest love story ever told in her late thirties with a witless prince.

[@kappy-nf6uh]

There are so many views out there but I do appreciate and welcome your viewpoint. It puts everything into perspective. Not everything on the Internet is all one-sided and that's the beauty of being able to form a balanced opinion.

[@loots9821]

The friends cast (who were in practically every scene) started on 22,500 per episode. Meghan was hardly on screen on a much smaller, far less watched series & wasn't a main star (even allowing for the fact that suits began 6 years after friends began). If she earned that much why does she own nothing in her own right? She had a business manager, lawyer & agent to pay for which she did even when suits ended and she was in RF.

[@thevintageread]

I estimated with that income she should have had at least 4.5 million in savings taking into account expenses. She earnt big money for 6/7 years. Even if she saved half she would have quite a bit.

[@jamm9202]

I think her money went to clothes, PR, and paying people to make her look better. An example-she brought stylists and a photographer to Rwanda for her “charitable work” and spent money for her photo shoots there. She was paying for puff pieces and interviews. She spent a lot trying to turn herself into an Angelina Jolie, Amal Clooney, Diana, etc

[@joannelim5483]

@@thevintageread I have to disagree. Even before her expenses taken into consideration, her total income during her 6-7 years of solid income was around $3.75 million (that is by overestimation). If you subtract the cost of living (cost of rent, utilities, travels) , manager, lawyers, agents, PR agents (she was using Sunshine Sachs who are not cheap), hair stylist, make up artist, clothes, private jets, attending parties in order to keep up with the Joneses in the upper echelon of society that she orbited around, I think she has hardly anything left. Her ex- agent and ex-friend Gina Nelthorp-Crowne said that Meghan asked her to work for Meghan for free as she did not have much money at the time.

[@xhogun8578]

For a start friends ran from 1994 to 2004 . Suits first aired in 2012, so comparing salaries is a bit of a moot point when there's nearly a 20 years difference when they first aired.

[@kappy-nf6uh]

@@joannelim5483 Even less after tax. She didn't even own her own home or car while in Toronto. Everything was leased and she lived beyond her means.

[@deeshires8721]

I have never believed these crazy conspiracies Don’t want to prove Megan right!

[@deep2218]

As stated by most people here, she earned and still could not have enough as she was trying, hustling to get an English guy, her words. She was definitely not your common tart...but a high society one where its all very hush hush. One thing I have always wondered is the wedding she gate crashed and basically arm twisted Harry ino a proposal. He did have 2nd thoughts that time. One of the ways he was enamoured by her is because she was willing to do whatever in the sack. Thats been alleged that H told his friends about her. So all this mastery in fulfilling some probably kinky stuff is definitely a red flag of what she has done in addition her acting.

[@thevintageread]

I’ve made a video about that wedding, we differ on the gate crashing part although they did have an argument!

[@ajune583]

I've heard the early stories/theories on Meghan but I base my opinions from when Harry met Meghan. Through her words & actions my opinion is Not positive towards Meghan! This also includes Harry!!

[@chubbanino]

You are looking at her from the spectrum of norms and how average normal people thinks and acts. You need to read up about narcissism . They have no emotional empathy and little conscience,people are means to an end. Their personal gain precedes everything and everyone .

[@bluerose_11]

Agree 💯

[@danceteachermom]

She was spending WAY more than she was earning. I TOTALLY believe she was a yacht girl. YES, she would put everything at risk for what she wanted. We don't know much about Soho House, but it's VERY shady. I think there was stuff going on there.... But I think it's for people who want to have "dates" with benefits. I don't think anyone thinks of it in any other way. But I also think that blackmail is the biggest thing going on there... But definitely $€*.

[@lori452]

Lol… not saying she’s actually ever done any of it but… she’s still capable of all of it.

[@Kari_B61ex]

I think that MM tends to fan the flames of conspiracy as she likes to be talked about - where Markus Anderson is concerned there is definitely something dodgy about him.

[@alisonford3649]

I have always thought that MA was a fixer, a connector of people, people who each wanted something out of the relationship. It would appear that MA is the ONLY person she has maintained a long term relationship with. Harry's first wife may not have been on anyone's payroll as such but I do think she enjoys the 'company' of gentlemen who she thinks will be beneficial to her should we say, and would without shame milk any encounter, however brief, with someone who could connect her up the food chain. It is her vulgarity, indiscretion and blatant thirsty hustling that will be her downfall, you can take the girl out of Soho House but you cant take the 'soho house hustle' out of the girl ! IMO. She is toast.

[@jetranger47]

It doesn't matter how successful her previous boyfriends/hatband were... success doesn't mean they are smart with personal relationships.

[@michele-kt]

I disagree. If Meghan Markle was an ordinary person and her goal was only to get ahead and become a top-tier actress. I'd agree with your theory. But she is not. She is a narcissist and possibly a sociopath. She controls, she manipulates, she lies, she cheats, she is incapable of having empathy or feeling guilt. She can not change who she is. Therapy can not change her either. As we have seen, she doesn't know when she's got a good thing. She could have taken advantage of her royal status and lived a life that most people dream of. But she even blew that due to the narcissism she can't control. I have little doubt that she lied to Trevor and did whatever she pleased to raise her status and that meant meeting even richer men on yachts. She networked herself right into the Royal Family! And about Suits firing her if she was a yacht girl well that would NEVER happen! The TV and movie industry is a swamp and without high morals. Its not uncommon for models and actresses to do yachting. Literally no one would care if that's how she earned extra money on her time off.

[@eldamandal7856]

The yachting and Soho sojourns was her way to hunt a bigger fish while she was with someone who is taking care of her living arrangement. She started doing it back in her school days and just continued until she got the big fish.

[@thevintageread]

I’m open to new information arising…

[@user-me7by2jc3d]

And while with Trevor she slept with Cory, while with Cory she slept with the golfer then Harry. What is the difference, she was not paid in cash but in opportunities to move up and network. Same thing a different payment type. Not loyal and fidelity to current partner. Her behaviour with the RF has shown she is not someone with a moral compass; and people of that ilk will do anything if it advances them. You don't have to get paid in cash, especially in that industry that she worships and craves so much.

[@joricardochard2824]

I certainly agree with most of what you said. I’m not convinced Meghan would see earning extra money would put what she already had, at risk . Wanting more seems to be an accepted norm for some. Thank you

[@margaretsmist7140]

I agree with you about the conspiracies- it’s ridiculous and makes people who have legitimate concerns about her look like they are the rest of these people.

[@MaraMorrigan]

Hmmmm, MM seemingly never pays her own way. Early on it was Daddy, then Trev, then the Suits' production company, then magazine paying for her to visit Malta in exchange for an article and photoshoot, charities/NGOs similarly paying for her travel and expenses to Africa and India, Marcus/Soho House hooking her up with hotel rooms when she was in town, ultimately, the BRF paying for her entire lifestyle, etc, so i suppose its not a huge stretch to imagine that she might also finagle time spent on a luxury yacht somehow...after all, grifters gonna grift and she clearly has always demanded a champagne lifestyle on a beer budget.

[@di942842]

Respect your opinion Mam. You are of course free to think and believe what you want about Meghan Markle. Others are also free to have their own opinion about Meghan. My opinions about her are anchored on various things, various receipts, as well as my personal experiences living and being raised by a narcissist. My mom is one. I know how narcissists think, what they are likely to say and do, and how they would behave after causing people pain and distress over their actions. I didn't think Meghan was a narcissist before, but after reading Tom Bower's book and after knowing about some of the things she has done based on what she and others close to her has said she has done, the picture of the narcissist has become so clear to me. What may seem outlandish and illogical to others would not be so far-fetched to the narcissist and would actually be in keeping with what a narcissist would do.

[@cagirl2220]

One wrong assumption is that having money more than average Joe makes one not to want more. As you make more money, you hang out with people a lot richer than you. More you have, more you need. This is a fact for all "ambitious" people. The second wrong assumption is that she didn’t cheat on her bfs. We have John Fitzpatrick on podcast speaking about his flings with Meghan (taking her to the White House, Ireland,..) while she was with Cory. Regarding Markus Anderson, being a member of Soho house for a long time, I kind of agree with you.

[@susanjacquier5358]

Well..thank you Shauna. I actually have to say I'm of a similar opinion. Sometimes when I listen to 'other channels', I think to myself " Yeah, nah"....it just doesn't add up. That she and Haz are cruel in the things they have said on public record..yup...I agree with that. That she and haz are users and abusers...eyup..agree. But, I need more factual evidence than 'sources speculation' or tabloid shite. Their behaviour is increasingly weird, but when a union is based on falsedoms, it will never succeed.

[@thevintageread]

I agree

[@madz48261]

Narcissists do love risk. MM thinks she's really clever, she isn't.

[@jackiemasek8302]

So… I have a sister who is a raging narcissist. She would totally do all those things, at the same time, and not get caught. Eventually yes. One day I’m sure. Not yet. Her brain, the brain of a narcissist just does not work the same way as a normal person’s does. They have NO morals, no sense of getting caught, no fear in anything actually. Sorry, m’dear, you have not moved the needle for me on this.

[@thevintageread]

I wasn’t trying to convince anyone. I just wanted to make it clear I didn’t subscribe to those theories.

[@jswjanjan]

Dear lovely Shauna: Because you are a kind, decent, normal person it is hard for you to imagine what drives Megsie. She does not share any of your values for anything. It's quite clear that she has no values. Just PR objectives and revenge. That's it. I think one day we will all be quite shocked at what she's been up to. This is a person with zero boundary recognition and tremendous greed......

[@thevintageread]

I have experienced similar, I have not lead a sheltered life…I think people are turning her into a super villain and she is really quite average 😂

[@jswjanjan]

@@thevintageread All we can do is stay tuned ... ;) ♡

[@elainebutterworth8051]

Hi Shauna, I think you might have underestimated the greed of a narcissistic opportunist, someone driven enough to do ANYTHING for money. Take a look at TRG's deep dives..... 😊

[@thevintageread]

I know TRG 😊

[@elainebutterworth8051]

Well then.....?! @@thevintageread

[@MaryB-tx2xq]

The first part of the recent info from TRG has been in general circulation for a long time, it’s what a lot of people already knew or suspected, without the conspiracy theory. I respect TRGs work ethic and she has a right to her opinion but I find it goes too far down the conspiracy rabbit hole for me

[@Hanami1498]

I think MM is capable of anything, after all during her years with Trevor and Corey they were not lavishing her with gifts or giving her a luxurious lifestyle. That was why she dumped them.😅

[@maureenmatthews7257]

Voice of Reason once again! Kudos to you!

[@thevintageread]

Appreciate that! Thanks 💗😊

[@cornelia9778]

I don’t think anyone cared about her being a yacht girl except some reporters trying to make it inti a big deal. Although perhaps immoral from some perspectives it was a good way for young women to meet movers and shakers who could help their careers and have a lovely trip at the same time. I can see her doing that as she saw her role on Suits dropping off. She had some time between Trevor and Vitelllo. Why not take advantage of a good holiday. Who knows who one might meet. There are sordid yachting trips arranged by sordid people but certainly not all and I don’t think she was on the scuzzy ones. I worked on a yacht in the Mediterranean as cook and crew and I give you my opinion from that perspective. When a charter was going to be iffy my Captain would give me the option not to go.

[@Disco1000]

❤Yay Shauna!❤️🇦🇺🦘🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️Love your work! So thoughtful and full of insight 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️❤️❤️

[@thevintageread]

Appreciate it thanks x

[@parkwood6334]

Thank you, I think some of the rumors about Meghan and the Sussexes are either ridiculous or no one's business. I'd actually consider Meghan more of a feminist if she had been a yacht girl instead of depending on her dad and Trevor to pay her bills.

[@margiekraftkindt4208]

Bringing forward the theories, and turning them to look throughly from every angle was helpful in sorting through all of the speculation--you are right, most of the time we don’t know, some of the time we don’t care, and often parts of the past are not relevant. Maybe the important issue, regardless of what she has done in the past,, is whether or not she brings out the best in Harry, and vice versa.

[@CommonWealther]

Just to let you know, prostitution and sex work is not illegal in Canada. MM has a reputation as being a flirt and a hustler. I'm on the fence.

[@carolbythesea]

To me, it’s clear from observing M’s body language that she has little respect for others and less respect for herself. Something in common with sex workers.

[@debbiemorgan4537]

Saying that prostitution isn't illegal in Canada isn't quite right. While the girls aren't charged with prostitution they are charged with living off the avails of prostitution. If we can't get you one way we'll get you another way.

[@CommonWealther]

@@debbiemorgan4537 I believe they have to pay taxes on their earnings. Who, besides waitresses, fully report their "cash tips"? I waitressed in the 70s and reported half of my tips. Those were the days when we were paid $2.00/hour.

[@robb2biago]

Ok fine! Marcus isn’t a pimp. But there’s something about him and Markle that keep them thick as thieves. Money, secrets, and power. But, he flies way under the radar, she flies directly into the flame.

[@maggiedavies5312]

I agree with you about the conspiracy theories surrounding the yacht girl, I think that would be far too much like hard work for megraine. Interesting that they haven’t sued though.

[@lindahunter6027]

You are very fair. It is an interesting world we live in where people hiding behind their keyboards can sling arrows. Your opinion is your opinion - period.

[@lenorefrost7681]

How would you explain that MM had apparently met Prince Andrew previously? I believe there was some awkwardness there when M pretended to Harry she didn't know who Andrew was. Remember that Virginia Guiffre had intended to call Markle as a witness in her case against Prince Andrew. The point of intersection would appear to be on Epstein yachts - or Soho House, or whatever unseemly place they all hung out.

[@idgriffin56]

Fair, pragmatic and detailed opinion and I totally agree. We, the general people, tend to seek out theories that are in line with our own. That’s insulting not only to the person we’re accusing of wrongdoing but to our own intelligence. To be honest, Meghan has caused so much well documented damage to her own reputation that’s there’s no need to deal in speculation and theories. Great job!

[@tricianilsson6870]

Agree!❤

[@toronto4640]

I agree. She had no reason to do the things conspiracists claim. She already had her sights set on a bigger catch so why jeopardize that?

[@jeanette-emt]

Greetings from Sweden! I highly appreciate your logical reasoning and calm, well-measured views on these matters.

[@thevintageread]

Glad you think so!

[@retrogradepink]

i don't think MM was a yacht girl, but Anderson IS in a position to have some power over powerful people. with everything that's come out about Epstein, i am now much more open minded about what people are willing to do to get ahead in life, no matter how illogical that might seem to normal people. Epstein's case also highlights just how connected all these players are.

[@musicandbooklover-p2o]

Brilliant video, a voice of reason in the wilderness which is sorely needed. Meghan has NEVER been important enough to have her past activities wiped from the internet, marrying Harry was never going mean she was suddenly so vitally important that her reputation had to be protected at all costs, especially as there have been no shortage of people willing to speak out about her. My bugbear is the conspiracy theory around the kids - their existence I mean. Have people seriously bothered to sit down and work out just how many people an average child knows - school teachers, parents of their friends, family members, neighbours, shop keepers, doctors, the person you walk past every morning and so on. IF Archie was the child of either the groundsman or one whose parents enrolled him in a modelling agency for TV work etc then just seriously think about how many people that child would know, along with the family. How many people then would require paying off to keep quiet about the boy being used as a ''substitute royal'' and being put on the line of succession, having been baptised by the Archbishop of Canterbury, seen by the late Queen and Duke of Edinburgh, Archbishop Tutu, and all the others who would have seen him on a daily basis. How many family members, friends and acquaintances would you have to pay to keep that quiet because the media have very very deep pockets indeed and if the local shopkeeper knows that the little boy who lives at no.20 is actually the same little boy shown on tv as Archie Harrison Sussex then he could make enough to retire on. I did actually sit down one weekend and do some working out and I reckoned they would be paying out several million a year just in hush money for Archie alone, add in Lili and the numbers increase and no matter how wealthy they are, if you are paying out 2 or 3 million a year JUST IN HUSH MONEY then you WILL go broke (heck, it's claimed their security is a couple of million a year as well and they simply don't have that much money). The conspiracy theories are entertaining to read but in reality the vast majority really have no sound basis outside of a novel.

[@thevintageread]

Yes It would take a lot of money to stop the real story coming out and resources I doubt they have! I think there are clear inconsistencies in their story which has fuelled all the conspiracy theories. So, in other words…covering up minor things which has lead to massive distrust.

[@gdog0387]

Hi some interesting things expressed. However, no one knows what the children look like. Their faces are always blurred or photoshopped. So how can anyone point them out? Parents of the paid actors sign a NDA (non-disclosure agreement) Bless you for taking the time to consider ideas

[@silva7493]

Good for you! You're a really sensible person, and I usually have an open mind. Your opinions and takes on things are always interesting, and I'm here because I enjoy hearing them.

[@thevintageread]

I appreciate that!

[@TheMrsPea]

I think Marcus Anderson and Markell scratched each other’s backs. She helped him recruit high end members. How that was done is left to your imagination.

[@philipmilner9638]

I wonder where all her 'money' went, I wonder if its all squirred away in a Swiss bank account?

[@beverlyw6881]

I agree with you on these and the age conspiracies. I wish people would give it a rest. It makes us look less credible.

[@thevintageread]

Yes it distracts from the real concerns!

[@MaryB-tx2xq]

Well, that’s exactly what I tried to write and I wrote an essay whereas you expressed it succinctly. I hate that the waters are being muddied with all the conspiracy stuff and I don’t give a sh*t if she lies about her age either

[@rubechenique]

I don’t doubt that she was a yacht girl she was looking for connections

[@desiree32129]

While I applaud your valiant efforts to see the good in people, I suggest that you may need to cultivate some better sources. In Canada it is quite common knowledge that Marcus may have duties well beyond his job description. After all most uneducated bartenders don't get that high up in any firm. Megs extra curricular income is a fairly well documented and researched subject on the internet if you care to read. Suffice to say, she has never sued anyone in this regard.

[@kathleenkinchela7180]

I disagree with you,but i except you have the right to your own opinion.

[@Meems56]

Trevor was just another step up. Risk? Look at what she’s risked already? She has no bounds!

[@teachersusan3730]

There are even conspiracy theories out there that she was planted in the RF by the „elite“. I‘m very wary of all the stuff that‘s out there. I dislike Harry‘s wife and her disrespect to people. But on the other hand she teaches us what a narcissist is and how one operates. That in itself is very useful.

[@edronc2007]

I disliked her from Day One (think "dog poop hat") and, to be honest, that's what I thought in the beginning, although I hate conspiracy theories usually with a passion. She was so unlikeable and incongruous in that family. I underestimated what a narcissistic woman would be able to do.

[@madelinetanner6159]

Look at the way she acts now. Suits and dating Trevor we're not enough for her. She was looking for power. Look at the way she's behaved. It's not the way a normal person would behave

[@thevintageread]

No argument there! I have made plenty of videos about her behaviour!

[@robertclark693]

After listening to Lady C she also has said the same she would not put herself in jeopardy to get what she wants good sleuthing

[@gremlin5622]

Very reasonably stated, thank you. (I was going to pretend I was outraged that you hold differing opinions than me but nowadays even joking is tricky - but I don't care. 😇)You may regret the "poor MA" comment. 😉But if things are as dodgy and elite as some/I suspect about SH and MA then how will we know? Dark ops at that level are not revealed. Case in point, JE's close buddy Bill C slithered into the shadows no questions asked. So many people involved but only two, Maxwell and Andrew, called out.??? MM's man-catcher moves involved Trevor AND Corey, Corey AND H, the first being cuckolded while MM made her moves. And it seems there were smatterings of other "trial" men in there somewhere. Busy woman.

[@thevintageread]

Yes I get what your saying I just don’t think she was connected at that level 😊 However it is only opinion I could be wrong!

[@gremlin5622]

I could be wrong, too. 🤫Thanks for your videos.@@thevintageread

[@vermillionbird1352]

Thank you for the voice of reason. I am no fan of Meghan Markle or Prince Harry, however, I do not like falsehoods to be bandied about as truth. This does not change my opinion of them, just the opinion of those who repeats fantasy thoughts and those who manufacture them. Thank you once again for being the voice of reason.

[@RecordingsofaReader]

I completely agree!

[@marnoch4632]

Agree

[@isabellak1394]

Totally agree 👍

[@kirri1312]

Unlike another KZbinr who just loves to post what are essentially rumours with no fact to back it up. I’ve called her out a few times and unsubscribed

[@RecordingsofaReader]

@@kirri1312 there are several like that.

[@virginiasteward545]

You are great. Don’t let the crazies get to you.😊

[@angelawhitehouse8066]

Thank god for a voice of sanity among the madness. It has always sat badly with me that someone is being accused of prostitution without a shred of evidence, and like you I am not a MM fan.

[@ladymary22]

Finally a rational post on getting caught up in conspiracy theories Call anyone out on their behavior that is a fact Don't go into wild speculation. That is irrational and can be dangerous You nailed it, Shauna ❤

[@thevintageread]

Thanks 😊💗

[@user-fp6mp7hg8b]

I do enjoy your videos and your endearing sense of humour and positivity. You know there is a But and However coming don't you ?......... Millions of people were very naive when it came to Epstein, and for many years. I think the same will be said of Marcus, Meghan and Soho house. Most of us cannot imagine these lifestyles and the corruption that comes with. The beginnings of Meghan's relationship with Harry , to me, seemed to be a well rehearsed and manipulated trap, with Marcus supporting Meghan all the way. Harry, being rather vulnerable, was a perfect catch , and could easily be compromised. I use the word " compromised" rather than "blackmailed" . Like yourself, I do read all the conspiracy theories and enjoy the search for the truth. In most cases involving powerful personalities, we never get to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ! Keep up the good work.

[@thevintageread]

Yes fully open to more facts coming to light!

[@gdog0387]

Yes right I agree with all you are saying. Remember Epstein worked in plain sight. Virginia Giuffre in her court case against Prince Andrew wanted Meghan to take the stand. Then court case was settled. How did Virginia Giuffre know Meghan Markle??

[@ambercruse278]

Spot on, as always! Love from 🇨🇦🌻

[@thevintageread]

Thanks so much!