Debunking Overwatch GUIDES that are LYING to you

[@Diastolicword88]

The only thing these channels say is, "get better aim" cause they don't know how to play the game 😭

[@djohnthesalty]

But Hydron, I bought this guys coaching for 300 dollars and climbed from bronze 2 to top 500 in 4 games! I can't show you because blizzard didn't track my stats, but I swear its true! Trust me :)

[@AntivenomOW]

The 5000 hours gold5 player watching these guides: "Any day now🤞👶"

[@angel_aeon]

biggest cap in this video is metro saying he's mostly known for his hitscan aim when he knows damn well he's mostly known as that guy in those "I made this overwatch streamer RAGE" videos LMAO

[@zohzie]

Most known for his statline and ability to somehow always die first and always break los with healers.

[@Kajor1]

thank GOD i did not get cooked in this 🙏

[@fkatwigswife]

we're getting you in part 2 buddy.

[@owHydron]

your ass is in part 2

[@zobo742]

@@owHydronLOL kajor is legit tho 😭🙏

[@Kajor1]

@@owHydron do my dva guide i DARE YOU i just released 5 hours ago that shit is flawless idgaf

[@exilyc]

homeboy gotta get pregnant one day from all that driding

[@chase0373]

The first guy wasn’t using cheats, the custom game has a setting that does that. That being said, why even use that clip in the first place, like what does it even accomplish

[@LxRazer]

5:12 "This guys talking about anxiety" 💀💀

[@Gr47372]

When i added edging to my aim warmup, thats when i went from wood 9 to top 500 in four hours.

[@diegospizzo1475]

-Better pc (get at least 150fps) -At least 144hz monitor. -A comfy-light-wireless gaming mouse (1ms response time) -A mouse pad big enough -A lot of fucking hours played.

[@Ropewatch]

The hours is the important part

[@styx2076]

annndddd im still trash.. 🥲

[@armankiarmankii]

I'm too broke for this shi ong 💀✋

[@Zero_zz14]

Can the dude actually hit a fucking throwing knife??? I swear I’ve seen him miss like 10 times

[@Glory_greatest]

The only part of aim you can teach is crosshair placement. Literally everything else is just practice.

[@oyunboldboldbaatar5519]

If you have dog aim, aim trainers do help. Mostly people who don’t know how to fundamentally aim.

[@RyeCA]

@@oyunboldboldbaatar5519 just play the game more

[@keebs5780]

@@RyeCA don't have too much time in ow specifically, but i've got something like 5k hours in various fps games and my aim is still absolute garbage. the only thing that keeps me alive in most games is my positioning/game sense being good from time accumulated but mechanically i've never gotten better lol

[@RyeCA]

@@keebs5780 then that's either due to low fps, bad mouse setup or some other mismanaged setting. No way you have above 5k hrs in fps games and have terrible aim.

[@keebs5780]

@@RyeCA not above, but very close. Not an fps issue since my frames are steady, mouse itself is very good. could be a sens/dpi issue, I’ve tried so many different sensitivities and DPIs over the years but it always starts feeling like I’m moving my hand through sludge and I can’t hit shit. Every so often it feels nice and smooth but that’s a once in a blue moon type thing lol

[@eyrietracer]

6:39 TECHNICALLY, if you’re 1v1ing a moira (and nobody else is looking at you, VERY IMPORTANT) standing still can actually help because moira has aimbot either way.

[@6torthor]

I disagree with aim being not coachable. Aiming has fundamentals that translates differently from game to game, and aim trainers are meant to isolate your weaknesses so you can effectively train them on repeat. Additionally, there’s a reason why aim coaches exist The tips you hear from these videos were what many would classify as “lazy aim,” waiting for the enemy to land in your crosshair for click timing heroes (burst, think Cas, Widow, Genji). This works when the enemy is moving in a predictable pattern, but this isn’t always entirely useful especially in high elo where players understand good movement The 3 fundamentals of aiming are click timing, tracking, and switching and you can train these consistently. Movement is then another layer of complexity that is then added to these scenarios, and for Overwatch (a game with instant acceleration), you’ll want to let your movement aim for you. Your movement is used either for dodging or aiming (see Spilo video on this). Moving to aim is either mirror or counter strafing, where you mirror strafe when you have an advantage as it’s much easier to land the shots, and counter strafe when at equal or disadvantage Sure, these things can be learned just by playing the game like Hydron says, but it’s not obvious at all and you’ll find your average Overwatch player for the most part actually just AD spams and lazy aims. For anyone that has even aim trained a little, you’re very easy to kill simply by stagger strafing and aim down center mass for tracking characters and lazy aiming for click timing heroes (you’ll see this is often how Sojurns aim by standing still for a microsecond when they get rail) For anyone that’s read this far, I recommend watching Greed’s video on aim science to better understand the fundamentals and Spilo’s aiming fundamentals video as well. Spilo has an aim coach that explains movement aiming more in-depth Edit: LMAO the “Kovaak’s freak plays Overwatch” video at the end demonstrates very well particularly the movement aspect I was talking about, though it’s mostly reaction tracking from Soldier. Movement fundamentals was still applied to Cas though. You can systematically, almost scientifically in a sense, get good aim like that it’s very possible. Other things I didn’t mention were ergonomics, mouse grip styles for your sens, sleep and diet (healthy and consistency), focusing on smooth pursuit and minimizing saccadic masking when reading movement (the “eye” part that’s neglected in “hand-eye coordination” of aiming, osu! is unironically a great quick warmup for this), tension management (greater the distance, the greater tension should be on initial flicks before micro adjustments), and crosshair placement

[@Ropewatch]

Most good aimers dont think about aim like you do. Your approach is not optimal. If you went up to a good player in a game. Not a kovaaks player. They would tell you to play a lot. Notice almost everyone will tell you to just actually play the game. Every guy I‘ve seen that smokes me in deathmatch has like a thousand more hours than me. Its time for you to enjoy yourself and not train.

[@6torthor]

@@Ropewatch Sure, but what if you don’t have time to invest thousands of hours and want to be equally as good? Then the aim training approach is optimal. Also, “good aimers” aren’t just those with thousands of hours, there are plenty of people (while a minority) that do approach aim scientifically like this. Some of the best aimers in the world like the Val players Tenz and Demonz are a product of this, amplified by their thousands of hours on top of it making them regarded by many as the best aimers in the world because they know how to improve most efficiently and put hours in. But deathmatch Andy only knows how to put thousands of hours in, not necessarily how to improve his aim Don’t disregard something you don’t know, don’t understand, or isn’t popular as “suboptimal”. I broke it down to its core mechanics and you completely disregarded it, despite being a VERY proven method to achieving good aim. Most “good players” you’d approach would say put hours in because the majority only do this. It’s not wrong, but it’s not the only approach, rather it’s the most inefficient approach

[@eckleyy]

They mislead people in hopes of having more people to pubstomp, but anyone with enough hours and critical thinking will know better

[@vpr2477]

at the end of the day, just play the game

[@shutup11337]

No. If you’re actively not trying to fix your issues in game, you will never climb. This is how u get diamond bots who are hardstuck with 2k hours in the game

[@esqzk]

@@shutup11337 you just said no to a guy saying to play the game then said to play the game in the same sentance 😭😭😭😭

[@shutup11337]

@@esqzk are you ok? there’s a difference between auto piloting in game and actively trying to improve on ur fundamentals. You won’t improve on ur fundamentals if u just play the game. His comment suggests that if you put 2k hours or so in game you’ll automatically get better. It doesn’t work that way, get off ow2 and work on ur reading comprehension please

[@esqzk]

@@shutup11337 he said just play the game where the fuck does that imply that you should auto pilot every game?

[@LeatherNinja]

​@esqzk that is what people generally do, and it's a big reason why people get stuck. Auto pilot is easier than actively thinking every game, and it's why it's important to make sure you're actually putting in brain power when playing.

[@RooThomson]

"I'm not cheating I promise" has to be troll at that point 🤣🤣

[@ZoneOutWay2]

When's the hydron overwatch guide dropping

[@Reezy911]

Never he can hardly guide himself to the toilet before he shits himself

[@lucas411_]

hydron calling these guides bad is like a slug calling a snail slow

[@JeffyJA]

Cooked by Hydron, its over chat...

[@henny117]

LOL

[@stets1183]

your video made me derank bruh

[@legatusmaximus7432]

are you actually top 500?

[@JeffyJA]

@@legatusmaximus7432 Yup. Im consistently top 500 on tank, and top 500 on support when I actually get my 50 wins in. GM rn for both roles.

[@ButterBeanFry]

@@JeffyJAprove it mate

[@Aevee_noob]

my fav thing is educational unranked to gm5 its like educational pisslow to pisslow

[@denn7s]

finally i'm hearing somebody call out his bs content. whenever i get these typa videos on my recommenced i watch them yelling at my screen about how mindnumbingly stupid this advice is

[@natedavis2944]

All you can do for aim or ranking up is things you would normally do for any kind of competition. Have good gear (pc, mouse, pad), sleep well, eat well, learn about the thing ur doing and understand it, and arguably the most important PRACTICE A LOT!

[@bahencio]

to be fair the first guy saying he wasnt aimbotting was clearly a joke, everything else yea u right. Second guy actually said "dont move, dont take shots and dont move crosshair" LMAOOO

[@sawah765]

Most people stuck in gold/plat can get to dia/masters just by improving their 'micro positioning' (idk the actual term for it). By micro positioning I mean more like cover usage. Once you choose a general part of the map to play in (positioning), micro is the exact spots you choose on the centimeter scale. How wide you stand, when to peek, how you move while shooting.

[@sawah765]

Imagine you're on a cheeky angle as Ashe, ana, whatever. Genji pushes you from the side of where you're looking. A low rank player will react to that enemy by moving backwards, panic strafing with no thought of how that exposes you to the other enemies you were just looking at. The best scenario is for you to slightly move so that genji is the ONLY enemy that sees you and multiple allies can see you/genji to assist. The next best case is you and genji are in a true 1v1. Nobody else on either team can see you two to assist. The worst case is you panicking and exposing yourself to everyone in the main fight while turned around tunneled on this genji. It's a common mistake I see even in my masters games. It's an easy skill to improve, just try to be conscious of who can see you and try to fight the urge to panick strafe/walk backwards without thinking

[@azurasenpai3783]

the whole thing about waiting for people to walk in your crosshairs only makes sense for bad players bc they dont change up their movement typically they just adad spam, or they spam jump. this happens a lot in lower ranks

[@dacr8928]

I think my favorite is when people finally hit GM and realize how fucking miserable the game is. Meta slaves, cheaters que times, the same 50 ppl in any given block of time all knowing exactly how you play. be happy in masters / diamond there is a reason there are so many alt accounts down there. You can actually play the game.

[@dcruz3009]

massive cope comment alert

[@dacr8928]

@@dcruz3009 sure huffed right out of a fucking balloon my guy, i don't want to play in gm, shits not fun at all. if you are a grinder and love Adderall by all means wiggle dat ass right up in there. aint for me. Ill raise my hand and be proud about it.

[@ericsombody8912]

this reeks of a guy who never hit GM

[@AntivenomOW]

@@dacr8928 "That’s why I never actually hit GM" type comment

[@dacr8928]

ohhh you got me!!! and I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you medaling kids. grinded echo for 2 seasons 458 games to get to gm3 and asked myself why? I wasn't enjoying any of the matches, they killed the DC server and I just stopped giving a shit after that. When I hear ppl fantasize about playing high ranked I get it, I was there. You don't get a cookie there is always someone better than you, just play the game how you want and your rank will sort itself out in a place you can do that. If grinding meta is what you want then have at it.

[@jetstreamsam6448]

Lil bro said "put the fries in the bag" With 12k subs 1 month later. Exaggerated swagger moment

[@amernej]

I hate that you’re right, I only started improving after I got a new mouse and a new pc

[@vasco0014]

nah no cap theres a coach of owl in yt that made a video about aiming and i think that video really helps you aim better

[@chuyyou]

5:45 I like that. Why would I just give my life away for free without trying?

[@VenulaJ]

The best aim advice I got was not for aiming, mirroring enemy movement.

[@neonoir__]

2:24 theres a way to make a custom game "aimbot" in the custom game creator, pretty sure thats what he's doing to show off what good aim looks like or something, makes no sense but I don't think he's cheating cheating

[@skelespan3822]

You should do more of these videos they’re entertaining af

[@SSsevenx]

The only tip I ever give to people for having better aim, other than not having ridiculous sensitivity, is having good positioning. This way, you can focus a little more on your aim and a little less on everything else. The only aim tip i think makes sense

[@WokFryed]

Can very easily coach aim. Simple example is how different heros have different movement with their models like bap leans and mercy doesn't so you're gonna aim for baps slight lean but then centre for mercy. Agree with you heavily on how you get higher ranks with better macro though

[@LuigixD]

But you don't need coaching for that, you can get that easily with experience playing the game

[@noahherbert8347]

@@LuigixD yeah like you shoot where there their model is no

[@ericsombody8912]

Bro was speaking facts but also talking about himself in owl a bit ngl

[@fewry-_-7394]

Only thing people can give you on aiming is just general tips like focusing on crosshair placement, get used to actually moving your mouse a lot to get those muscles comfortable with fuckin aiming in the first place (a big problem i see is people going to super high sens because they are too damn lazy to just move their goddamn mouse), etc. Past those bare basics its literally just play the game and either aim will come or it wont, theres no tips to get better

[@BlackWolf-of5ce]

Ngl these guides r trash I’ve been playing since 2016 I’ve been thru all these videos. I hit top 500 every season overwatch 2 and in overwatch one I was always 3900. Legit all these guides now of days basically say aim train and give 2-4 tips at most for one character. Like when the game first came out u watch haksal and seagull to learn genji and he’d tell u how to interact with certain abilities and characters to combo. 💀 the guides now are a mere husk of what guides r supposed to be

[@chuyyou]

8:43 That hurts me because it is true. I am in the top 5 % in kovaaks and still plat 5. And I keep saying that if I can aim better. one day I will be good.

[@Falloutx360a]

I remember playing a gold game in OW1 console and being in the same lobby as a level diamond border player who had peaked in Masters

[@sv4lker]

we love hydron

[@ravishekchand2699]

ima keep it a stack. I used to be one of those players saying your teammates aren't holding you back it's you. And this was good I climbed from plat in ow1 to now mid masters in ow2. Trying my hardest to hit gm, but it seems like every game I'm the only one on my team even trying to win. not even coping I have so many replays and stat boards of me having so many kills and getting so much value, meanwhile my team does absolutely nothing. The biggest problem I have right now with the giga tanks patch is the enemy tank see's me doing this and they decide to just focus me and shut me down. And that's totally okay because that would allow my tank to freely get value, But that's the problem he does absolutely nothing and goes negative. I can't even fight the tanks how I used to before as a dps main you used to be able to counterplay, and outskill tanks. Now it's no more. If you 1v1 a tank you lose %99.99 percent of the time simply due to their role. The balance of the game is so messed up, but honestly I could care less about that I can work around it. But the matchmaking is like the cherry on top. I'm not even trying to cope like genuinely my games be a 1v9.

[@mickeyboy90]

Kiting the tank is value, but u have to live/get a kill most fights to carry if you can’t rely on a teammate to do decent.

[@pi-2627]

Ignore stats, stop dying to the enemy tank If you are not climbing given you are dedicating enough time to the game to climb, there is something fundamentally wrong with your play that needs to be adjusted.

[@ravishekchand2699]

@@mickeyboy90 hard to kite a dva that can delete me in about .2 seconds even if i have perfect positioning. 👍🏾

[@ravishekchand2699]

@@pi-2627 well yeah obviously stats isn’t everything thats why i talk about value as well. But theres no reason my tank should be negative in a game like ow where u can do 1 dmg to someone and get an elim. That just shows they are not engaging the way they should be and basically spectating.

[@teencorn9169]

Yeah u got to ignore stats in this game. Whether or not the process is fun for you is for u to decide

[@Chiza15]

And you CAN coach aim with aimtrainers, people with hundreds of hours in aimtrainers will have a diferent perspective in technique and should help you to play scenarios present in game and get a sense of progression

[@weither]

dawg where tf is part 2

[@ZeroWasUsed]

these guys tryna keep the skill gap down lmao

[@xevurr]

bro played my fav aimer in the end 🙏

[@P1nn9cle]

Do mousepads actually matter for aiming?

[@Majtzy]

Yes

[@aeloh6921]

Yeah they actually do, mouse also. If you're broke just order an aqua control they're like 20$ for a giant one

[@shutup11337]

imo, yes. Control or fast mousepads can really optimise your aim, just gotta find the right one

[@fable4916]

ngl u were right on the first guy the second guy was spittin... maybe this is why team USA got touched.

[@bink97]

“how to become a top 500 player in Overwatch! use code VAXTA in the game browser”

[@mystic9314]

I watched a really good player from Xbox named hcpeful and took his tips I’ve went from plat to gm1/top 500 in all roles if anyone wants help learning the game he’s been rank 1 on Xbox and pc

[@Thefontanayears]

Im also console top500 and have played like hundreds of games against/with him on my team, I never knew he had a youtube lol

[@gobbagoo]

love or hate hydron, he is still in the top 1% of players and unranked to gm guides are never truly gonna get you to top rank

[@adamelallam6146]

mechanics are quite litrally 99% of any game

[@WorthlessGod]

That last sentence was perfect, was gonna say aiming is a lot like weight lifting aka the gym. In the way you use it sure u can't teach aim nor can u teach someone to lift x weight / do x reps BUT you can teach someone proper form just like with aim you can teach someone proper techniques. These techniques won't make u a good aimer just like proper form won't make u a good lifter but it will set you up so that if ur serious and you put in those thousands of hours you will become a good aimer/good weight lifter. Also metro is actual trash at aim, all kovaaks players know this just like all kovaaks players know good aim doesnt make you good at the game you play it just makes u good at aim.

[@Kiba114]

most people dont know what they are doing, even in top500 sadly

[@simplerabbit2186]

I think a lot of factors come to together to build the concept of "aim" but the Pointing and clicking aspect isn't even that hard. most people just have wack hardware, environment and settings. shid posture, shid grip, shid mouse, shid computer, shid montior, shid mousepad, shid humidity (turn on the AC noob). People be playing on a post-it note and 5billion sensititivy. Learn to use a competitive cm/360, and lower your ingame sense to 0.01 (crank up your dpi as needed) to eliminate crosshair skipping. Trust 0.01 sense+100000 dpi is better than 100 ingame-sense 10 dpi. if ur dpi dont go that high. unlucky hardware gap. Not saying to dump a million dollars to get slightly better mechanics. but like I'm sure you can copy and paste a few settings, clean your desk, adjust your seat, turn on the ac, etc and have better aim instantly. My 9 y/o cousin can hit nasty shots on my setup and they never used anything other than a like an ipad. yeah sure they get their ankles broken by a tracer knowledge gap on crosshair placement/hitboxes, but they can point and click just fine.

[@j6shy]

omg, more of these vids pls

[@baileyskates]

i love this kind of content

[@LiteralKing]

Aiming is blackpill

[@rebootow]

me when I spread misinformation on the internet

[@Frame2]

10:42. So true hahah, there’s really not that much more to it

[@pixelmelons4280]

9:30 its so true

[@patrickluke5028]

Agreed with most but MattyOw is top 500 and is the most known aim trainer. But i will say ow is a game where aim alone is definitely not enough

[@Qursuu]

Mr Hydron why don’t u make a 2 second video on how to rank up cuh

[@leonarddekkers5904]

true

[@fenfir106]

I know metro because he yelled at me in a diamond ranked game

[@zobo742]

I saw this video a couple days ago and thought the same shit lmao

[@Duoflash5]

More of this plzzz

[@bigfella23729]

just play brig and smack people, my aim is ass except for whipshot so its all positioning and management and stuff

[@Axur3e]

What the flip hello Hydron

[@reyc3ro]

Hydron, I lost respect for you on this one. Sure this coach is a fraud and giving some very ChatGBT advice... on improving... however Criticizing Coach Mills because he reacted to getting one-shot by a Widowmaker on stream isn’t fair. Mills is one of the humblest coaches out there; he openly admits he’s not the best at the game but excels at helping players understand it, much like Spilo. You're a great player and a cool guy, but you need to be more balanced in your critiques. There was so much miss information here.... like the not everyone can make it to GM... whats ironic is my friend is Masters but plays in a top 3 team in AU but cant hit GM because he isnt good at solo queing and he doesnt have the time outside of playing with the team to grind. You talked about how new players seek a “quick fix” for aiming improvement, but then you mentioned buying high-quality peripherals as a quick fix. Good peripherals like a 24-27 inch monitor with 240hz, and a mouse that fits your grip style (like a Death Adder for palm users or a Sora V2 for claw users), are important. Additionally, cloth mousepads generally provide better feedback and control than glass ones. Upgrading gear is similar to buying a better BMX bike-it improves performance to match the standard but doesn’t guarantee improvement. As you mentioned, OW2 requires thousands of hours of aim practice. It’s essential to train the right skills, such as vertical aim with Metro’s aerial targets. For lower ranks, warm-ups and 1v1s help with dueling mechanics and adapting to human movement. Aim improvement can also benefit from coaching. As an ex-CSGO pro, I found that feedback on my aim-like reducing sensitivity and improving crosshair placement-was crucial. Movement is indeed more important than aim, as it helps with avoiding damage and controlling recoil. And yes, Bogur outperformed Aspen-Bogur solo carried his team to the first World Final for Marvel Rivals and reached GM faster than anyone else. Sure that game isnt OW2 but it's a high skill ceiling game that is brand new so Bogur is someone that can pickup things instantly... the guy was a Software Engineer before he was an OW2 player... fairly sure Aspen has a masters degree in wearing Cat Ears and uWu'n

[@Bruhcel]

No one's reading all that bro, It's a video gam

[@abc12369]

"top 3 AU" doesn't mean shit there's like 50 ppl on the entire server

[@pogchamp154]

Hydron cooking

[@jkekws4754]

i fw this heavy

[@mattyrose75]

your bicep is distracting lowkey

[@ichigo_34]

Yo this guy is best girl I like his video keep it up

[@pyryvirtanen6081]

W R O N K

[@tylerstanier9561]

he needs a guide on how to pronounce those tricky one syllable words

[@b23beatz]

Ok lol the coach mills clip hes a coach so his mechanics arent anything crazy 😂😂

[@pyb8216]

"there is no aim secret" I strongly disagree with that statement, at least when it comes to improvement. The best way to learn how to aim, as any mecanical skill requiering muscle memory is to do it well and slow before doing it well and fast. You start slow and bad untill you're slow and good and only there you train your rapidity in order to be good AND fast. I thing people that struggle with improving their aim (including me) don't take the time to aim well before aim fast. Also, having a consistent strafe pattern helps a lot not to screw it's own aim with it's own strafe

[@BigL10000]

sound mixing is awful. Youre way too loud compared to the videos

[@lustfulscholar1199]

MY KING!!!!!!!!!!!

[@YoRHaNazrin]

good video

[@clockwork_]

wronk

[@Cronx.]

8:23 nah u can def teach someone how to aim better wtf are u saying lmao

[@yaxxydesu5776]

2 🗣️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥

[@ethanhobbs6030]

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[@x_skull_x1722]

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[@Jack-xl6oj]

these videos are funny but i think u go too hard on the aim training its def not the most important and staying alive plays whatever tf u wanna say is better but aim training is def not the worst thing to do and it will help you get better, esp at a lower rank ur like a billionaire telling people not to save money or invest or someshit lol its not the worst thing and it does help

[@soxxks]

You lost me at 8:30 cause there are plenty of examples of people that aim train being nasty at the game(s) they play. Not just Tenz. But yeah, aim isn't everything. Still ly papito

[@pi-2627]

These are individuals who already have good aim. If you have good aim, you will be good at fps games by default.

[@salted2096]

@@pi-2627 Exactly, they're already good at aiming but they can see they can improve so they train it more and get even better. You don't see a guy that''s been going to the gym for a year and put on 5 lbs of muscle as a beginner during that time (which isn't much) all of a sudden become an IFBB pro, there's either something missing be it too much stress, too little sleep, bad diet etc... that can all be fixed but at the end of the day you might just not be genetically predisposed to having a good physique. Some people can hop on any game and be good mechanically but others just might not have that good hand eye coordination.

[@jyhmz]

You microphone is absolutely terrible, can't watch.

[@robertdecker3598]

100 percent hydron…. Thank you for speaking truth. God’s truth in my opinion.

[@D3LTAG1RL]

i forgot that you were sm,art. m'y mestike

[@lookatmeize]

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