Debunking the Difficulty - Ghosts 'n Goblins (NES)

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This one surprised me.
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@jeremysolomon1209
@jeremysolomon1209 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid I remember this game feeling impossible, even for the first level. And I hated that with each time dying, the stupid level map showed up. It was as if the game was mocking me, saying “Yeah there’s 5 other levels, and you’ll never see them!”
@EmergencyChannel
@EmergencyChannel Жыл бұрын
And then you have to beat those levels twice to actually get the real ending!
@jaybee1158
@jaybee1158 Жыл бұрын
Idk if you’ve beat it if not go back bro defeat that damn demon after words I bet you feel like “first beat the game” after beating it “Take over the world” lol I tell people if you grew up in that time it wasn’t easy but if you do it now you want to tell everyone..as a kid you would gat mad respect now it’s like crickets sound” lol … much respect ✊🏾
@NubianNemesisArise
@NubianNemesisArise 18 күн бұрын
😂
@lorydr2003
@lorydr2003 2 жыл бұрын
For those that don't know, the famicom version is more difficult. Enemies are faster and you have no continues.
@adamrmoss
@adamrmoss 2 жыл бұрын
Famicom version has hidden continue: hold right and press A or B three times, then Start.
@daviddamasceno6063
@daviddamasceno6063 Жыл бұрын
Other thing I noticed is that the famicon version seems to a bit more laggy, something to do with the fequency, I can't really tell. But like, when you shoot the goblin you can't stun lock it as efficiently as in the US version. The european version is the easiest, cause the response time is the best and you can stun lock enemies much easier. In fact, that's the only version I managed to beat.
@bigriverraiders9243
@bigriverraiders9243 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about there being continues and weird speed. I was like this isn't my ghost n goblins from my childhood.
@draconic5129
@draconic5129 Жыл бұрын
@@adamrmoss Wish I knew that much sooner.
@hulksmash2780
@hulksmash2780 Жыл бұрын
This is the original darksouls . I came real close to beating it then I said forget it 😂😂😂😂😂
@mikewilliams6025
@mikewilliams6025 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since Ryu modeled for the main character, he hasn't stopped pushing this game. I think he gets royalties.
@Jjgm69
@Jjgm69 6 ай бұрын
XD lmao.
@xavierharding8938
@xavierharding8938 6 ай бұрын
Ryu from street fighter is a real person ?
@PhuryousOne
@PhuryousOne 2 жыл бұрын
It's easy to say this game isn't difficult after someone else mapped it out for you, but as a kid, this game was why I started smoking cigarettes at the age of seven. I had the Advantage joystick that had turbo buttons. When you paused the game, nothing shows up on the screen, so I used to use turbo on the pause button and basically play this in slow motion and I got pretty far doing it that way. Nowhere near beating the game though. Gamers that can beat this do make it look pretty damn easy though.
@isaacwilbourn3362
@isaacwilbourn3362 2 жыл бұрын
"You don't HAVE to get the knife"..... *2 minutes later* "Okay the knife is really good, I would get the knife" I love you Ryu
@isaacwilbourn3362
@isaacwilbourn3362 Жыл бұрын
@@mbagle ???
@mbagle
@mbagle Жыл бұрын
@@isaacwilbourn3362 Sorry. i think I was replying a separate comment and clicked on yours by mistake. I remember a Spammy comment but it wasn't yours. Sorry.
@quadpad_music
@quadpad_music 10 ай бұрын
I mean, those two statements don't contradict each other...
@Ugh718
@Ugh718 7 ай бұрын
@@mbagle You mean something like"Didn't ask,my content is better"?XD
@mbagle
@mbagle 7 ай бұрын
lost in this entire conversation
@2Zone
@2Zone 2 жыл бұрын
After never playing the game before, I beat it today thanks to your video! It was still quite hard and took a couple hours but definitely would have quit without your numerous tips
@ethanwinters184
@ethanwinters184 2 жыл бұрын
I just use save states i know it's cheating but it makes the game so much easier
@magicbymccauley
@magicbymccauley Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's like the only way to beat the game is with the collective knowledge of millions of people finding very niche strategies and then compiling it. As if no normal person would find this game easy without extremely obscure knowledge.
@tsimon8374
@tsimon8374 2 жыл бұрын
If AVGN is Yin, this series is Yang. It's amazing. This game absolutely is a crapshoot that deserves to be ranted about (Yin), but with a levelheaded, disciplined approach... it can be managed (Yang).
@valentds
@valentds 2 жыл бұрын
is basically, less fun, but more chill (and tutorial)
@suburbanindie
@suburbanindie 2 жыл бұрын
It's basically how James (AVGN) is IRL
@thegamerdt3744
@thegamerdt3744 Жыл бұрын
He’s gonna take u back to the past
@ooj316
@ooj316 Жыл бұрын
We didn’t have the internet when this came out. No idea where the hidden armor was. Died a million times as a kid
@joshybones
@joshybones 2 жыл бұрын
I need to start a series called "Bunking the Difficulty" to bring balance to Ryu's god gaming.
@phosphorus4
@phosphorus4 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, bunking would not be…well it wouldn’t be that…
@riversart2030
@riversart2030 2 жыл бұрын
First episode- Kirby's Dream Land- unable to get past the second level.
@globalistgamer6418
@globalistgamer6418 2 жыл бұрын
"You see these guys?" *Points to Waddle Dee* "These guys are DEADLY. I call them 'Muderators'. If you see Muderators coming, you RUN and you HIDE. In a bottomless pit."
@seymourglass26
@seymourglass26 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, because there aren't any KZbinrs who scream and rage at game difficulty. I can't think of a single one.
@seymourglass26
@seymourglass26 2 жыл бұрын
And for the record, I love the MaximillionDood Boss Rage series.
@zarinblade5936
@zarinblade5936 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video ever since the series started. Never beaten this game so I’m hoping after I watch this I can finish it.
@amberhamlin9695
@amberhamlin9695 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@Ryu
@Ryu 2 жыл бұрын
you got this
@ChefRengar
@ChefRengar 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ryu gotta do super ghouls and goblins
@stacychamness9077
@stacychamness9077 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChefRengar Don't forget about Ghost N' Goblins Resurrection on the Switch on legend difficulty.
@phosphorus4
@phosphorus4 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChefRengar Super Ghouls ’n Ghosts?
@Nick_Lyston
@Nick_Lyston 2 жыл бұрын
I have a special technique for watching Ryu videos. I click the “like” button BEFORE watching it because I know its gonna be good. I don’t want to risk dying in a meteor shower before I finish and missing the opportunity.
@christophersavignon4191
@christophersavignon4191 2 жыл бұрын
Ryu: "I want to show it isn't so bad" Game: "My sprites are often invisible, you arbitrarily lose for getting the wrong weapon, the whole thing is a twice-twice, and the reward for all that is a lazy ending message that's not even spelled properly." Ryu: "It isn't so bad..."
@andrewkwon2808
@andrewkwon2808 2 жыл бұрын
This is spam impersonating ryu. Report as spam
@zeroreyortsed3624
@zeroreyortsed3624 2 жыл бұрын
The only part of this game that peeved me was finally beating it, then finding out I didn't beat it😂
@tisdue
@tisdue 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you're doing with this series. You're removing the stigma that these challenging games are "impossible" for the average gamer.
@aschlamishowsup
@aschlamishowsup 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah no shit lol
@Drip404
@Drip404 2 жыл бұрын
@@aschlamishowsup lol
@rectalespionagesailboat4819
@rectalespionagesailboat4819 2 жыл бұрын
Listen, I love this series and will always watch it. But you are not going to convince me this game isn't brutally unforgiving 🤣
@IncubiAkster
@IncubiAkster Жыл бұрын
@Heath He literally said he wasn't saying the game was easy near the start with his series, and at the end. xD
@stevenjohnson243
@stevenjohnson243 Жыл бұрын
does this guy sound like a gay mountain man or is it just me?
@CyanideSublime
@CyanideSublime Жыл бұрын
Silver Silver and Battletoads are remorseless.
@pseudzy
@pseudzy Жыл бұрын
@@stevenjohnson243this comment made me laugh hysterically because of how out of place it is. Also Ryuka has a wife lol
@metalgearsolidsnake6978
@metalgearsolidsnake6978 Жыл бұрын
spiderman lol< try it!!!good luck!!!n lol next spiderman and Dick tracy
@hell-yeah8776
@hell-yeah8776 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! This game is still mind numbingly difficult but hopefully this will make the game more bearable. You failed to mention some things tho. At 8:57 actually if you stayed longer in the platform until it goes high, you can spawn an item disc that can increase your timer. That was really helpful. At stage 3, there are 2 armor placements, you failed to mention that too. I personally think this game can't be made any easier because so many random elements that you can't control happened and that can really ruin your run. If you succeed doing one thing in run 1, maybe that thing wouldn't work in run 2. At least that was my experience. You can make this game bearable but never easy.
@ryukahr
@ryukahr 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I could never get the first armor in stage 3 to spawn
@hell-yeah8776
@hell-yeah8776 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryukahr That's funny because I vaguely remember watching you on twitch when you tried to beat this game the first time and you managed to spawn it lol. Anyway, these debunking difficulty videos are the best. Keep 'em coming.
@conorneligan7694
@conorneligan7694 2 жыл бұрын
In fairness knowing stuff like where the armor is and the enemy patterns makes it far easier. I beat this with only the guidance of the manual and it's fucking ridiculous. On another note I never knew that second armor was there in Stage 3. I thought there were only 5 suits of armor in the game.
@DeanG142
@DeanG142 2 жыл бұрын
This comment should be pinned. The random elements is what make this game difficult.
@markaitkenguitar
@markaitkenguitar 2 жыл бұрын
Before I even watch this: yeah fucking right. But ima watch and learn and maybe this will be the time I finally beat my favorite impossible game ever! Thanks, best series ever Ryu!
@highstimulation2497
@highstimulation2497 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, all people have to do is USE STRATEGY and BOTHER TO OBSERVE PATTERNS instead or brute-forcing everything:)
@dirty56ace
@dirty56ace 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed a great game , It was one of my favorites as a kid even tho I don't think I ever saw level 3 back then. I didn't beat it until 30 yrs later , lol.
@markaitkenguitar
@markaitkenguitar 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the full commitment jumping. And the ‘attacks from all sides, get clusterfucked’ thing that happens all too often. Ryu’s video makes it look so easy it’s insane!
@techmark3665
@techmark3665 2 жыл бұрын
For those playing the original arcade version, the red arremers use a different AI from the nes port. When you see it waiting, you can get a free hit on it once (it will dodge subsequent attacks), then you must wait/dodge through its attack cycle until it charges straight at you horizontally (this prevents it from dodging). When it does this, you can then finish it off with a few more hits before it rams into you.
@quadpad_music
@quadpad_music 10 ай бұрын
I think game overs actually reset all of your points, so if you're playing for score those WOULD matter. This is pretty common in arcade games.
@Joshhow
@Joshhow 2 жыл бұрын
I always loved this game. I also loved one of the spin offs from this game called Demons Crest (SNES) . It's main character is one of the flying Red Arremer enemies in this game ( as a hero named Firebrand) and I believe was also the main character of the Gargoyles Quest series
@Blankult
@Blankult 2 жыл бұрын
I believe demon's crest is a prequel to gargoyle's quest
@Joshhow
@Joshhow 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it went Gargoyles Quest 2, then 1, then Demons Crest in terms of the lore. Once you get the Time Crest I believe there is a bit of dialogue with one of the townspeople where he freaks out that you have returned or something similar to that. I could be entirely wrong however.
@Blankult
@Blankult 2 жыл бұрын
@@Joshhow I might be confusing it for gargoyle's quest 2, i only played demon's crest to the end, the other ones i have yet to finish.
@ShadowSora8491
@ShadowSora8491 2 жыл бұрын
Demon's Crest is a sequel to the Gargoyle's Quest spin offs.
@kashgarinn
@kashgarinn 2 жыл бұрын
Bro.. your reflexes and feel for stuff like how the (incredibly clunky) jump works is what’s helping you the most, and that’s something you only learn by going through the gauntlet.
@amberhamlin9695
@amberhamlin9695 2 жыл бұрын
"The most annoying part is how the hot-dogs spawn randomly" 😂😂 Thanks for debunking one of my favorite childhood games. My brother and I would play this for hours on end. I didn't even know about the armors! Thanks for sharing another awesome video!!
@mrblueduck
@mrblueduck 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda II in 2 parts?
@GodofMasks
@GodofMasks Жыл бұрын
I have a yearly "Try to beat this game!" party where we do line-ups of difficult classic games and this is one ive never beaten. Not even close. Then i watched this video, sat down and did it in like 20 minutes. I'm blown away how just a handful of tips have checked this game off for me.
@necrocorey6408
@necrocorey6408 2 жыл бұрын
My dad is a god at ghosts n goblins. He prefers the arcade version by far, but he runs over the nes version as well. I'm pretty sure I wasn't worthy of his love until the day I beat ghosts n goblins.
@mikeallison5549
@mikeallison5549 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this, I went down memory lane and watched Ryukahr struggle with this game 4 years ago on his extraordinarily hard game series. It was funny watching the struggle on those demons and accidentally doing the humpback technique before he knew that was the strat.
@mrroche6146
@mrroche6146 2 жыл бұрын
in the words of AVGN GET THE KNIFE!
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat 2 жыл бұрын
Arcade version was ROUGH (tons of RNG). The NES version was just about memorizing everything, and "enjoying" the stupidity of all the secret nans, weapon requirements, etc. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
@andrewkwon2808
@andrewkwon2808 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t hit him up on telegram. It a scam, lol
@nickpry968
@nickpry968 2 жыл бұрын
The Debunking series is my new fave. It amazes me how I could sail through these games as a 10-12 year old kid, and now as an adult I struggle.
@cedric1138
@cedric1138 2 жыл бұрын
No one ever sailed through Ghosts n Goblins
@conaldeugenepeterson2147
@conaldeugenepeterson2147 2 жыл бұрын
@@cedric1138 Contra, Metal Gear, G&G, Battletoads, Spanky’s Quest, and so many other NES and SNES games were beaten on a Saturday a piece at a friends house. Ridiculously hard games were the norm. Especially compared to modern games.
@RedHairdo
@RedHairdo Жыл бұрын
Not even that hard, any of those games. Unlike Souls games, but even those are a matter of acclimation.
@dontrodella298
@dontrodella298 Жыл бұрын
Said Noone ever lol
@Genghis420Khan
@Genghis420Khan 8 ай бұрын
​@@RedHairdosouls is easier.
@MikeyNightchilde
@MikeyNightchilde Жыл бұрын
I remember being able to warp to any level by doing some button combinations on the title screen. You are then able to play the final boss with any weapon you want too. Start the button combination right when you see the title screen and be sure to complete it before the game demo happens. 1. Hold Right and press A 10 times 2. Up (do not hold) 3. A 3 times 4. Left (do not hold) 5. A 3 times 6. Down (do not hold) 7. A 3 times 8. Start 9. B 10. Start This is off memory from my childhood. If that doesn’t work then just use B button for all the combinations. When you complete a level it will take you back to the warp screen. You can also practice the same level over and over again. Great way to practice that 1CC.
@P90XBowler
@P90XBowler 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you do this game, there is a way to avoid the forced fire weapon from the ladder on level 2, i'd have to replay the game to remember but it depends of your trajectory. i also beat this last year on my channel both quest and it felt nice.
@DarkYuan
@DarkYuan 2 жыл бұрын
Besides the way he showed?
@conorneligan7694
@conorneligan7694 2 жыл бұрын
The torch spawns if you come down the last ladder just before the ladder with the torch on top of it. If you take another route it won't spawn. Using the speedrunning skip is kind of overkill, given that it's very easy to get hit after that. He was extremely lucky in this video (unless there were other takes we didn't see). Often the Unicorn bosses just run into you and there's nothing you can do about it.
@P90XBowler
@P90XBowler 2 жыл бұрын
@@conorneligan7694 Yup I agree and that is the way I did it myself, by not triggering the torch and not taking the shortcut. You do have to hurry but you should have enough time to get to the end. Ah I should replay this game soon, been a while, that and Ninja Gaiden remain my favourite 2 NES games to beat!
@truthhearer6323
@truthhearer6323 2 жыл бұрын
I love this series. Keep keeping on, liking the positive vibe
@Cadrid
@Cadrid 2 жыл бұрын
“I always have people getting mad, saying ‘You didn’t debunk the difficulty! It’s still hard!’” You could’ve called the show _Nullifying the Notoriety,_ but then you’d lose the double-D.
@mikethered123
@mikethered123 2 жыл бұрын
It gets quite hard if you keep doing more and more loops. I've never heard of anyone getting further than loop 7.
@mikethered123
@mikethered123 2 жыл бұрын
@@markxv2267 Holy f, that's nuts. Grats! Any idea where the loops "break" and just become repetitive or crash the game?
@adamsyed5535
@adamsyed5535 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I didn't notice Loop 3 as being any more difficult than Loop 2.
@Animebryan2
@Animebryan2 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikethered123 Wouldn't be surprised if it breaks only after loop 255 (FF in hexadecimal).
@Eralen00
@Eralen00 2 жыл бұрын
@@Animebryan2 someone should make a TAS for it and test it out
@im_cart8656
@im_cart8656 3 ай бұрын
this guy has such an easy time with these hard games.. he really does just cruise through them.. i spent like an hour on stage 3 and now i've been on stage 6 for an hour. don't know how he does it
@maxhebertson6403
@maxhebertson6403 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you ryu. Making any hard game easier is all about knowledge. Which in early games is everything.
@yeolemillinial8295
@yeolemillinial8295 2 жыл бұрын
"you feel a strong welling in your body" but is the princess's body ready?
@jamesmclinden1481
@jamesmclinden1481 Жыл бұрын
If you still struggle defeating the red devils, you can make them de-spawn as another method. Make sure they are on the edge of the screen and shoot one projectile. As soon as the projectile hits, run away so the devil is off screen. You need to run a short distance. The devil should then de-spawn. Works on most devils. Just make sure you have enough room to run away from the devil so it goes off screen.
@jezzmaninjapan
@jezzmaninjapan 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to these episodes like I was looking forward for the next AVGN episode, back in the day. Time to get some noodles and enjoy.
@ayearinthelifeofanxietyjoe4413
@ayearinthelifeofanxietyjoe4413 Ай бұрын
Get the knife!
@tuntemon
@tuntemon Жыл бұрын
"Get the knife" is one of those classic lines from old youtube history, just like "You can just walk over it".
@jamesaitchison9478
@jamesaitchison9478 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, this video was awesome. Breaking down the game to a few core strategies that really helps make the game seem more approachable and less daunting of a challenge to complete was very cool.
@Caleb_Landry
@Caleb_Landry 2 жыл бұрын
I almost beat this game on NS Online without knowing it was infamously beyond difficult. And I was thinking to myself the whole time “wow this is hard”. But now knowing that, I’m proud of myseld
@VinciWare
@VinciWare 2 жыл бұрын
Solid video! It was actually really enjoyable to watch. I’m currently watching a bunch of play throughs of the classics so I can apply some of what I see in the retro styled Metroidvania I’m developing, and so far your videos have been some of my favourites to watch 😁 Cheers, friend! 😁🍻
@bigfest6498
@bigfest6498 2 жыл бұрын
Red dude is called Firebrand Congratulations 👏🏽 The NES was notorious for bad interpts lol
@jay_cee583
@jay_cee583 2 жыл бұрын
If you choose 'continue' after you beat the 2nd playthrough, you get a 3rd playthrough. It starts at the final boss, but just kill him and see for yourself how it looks once it poops you back to level 1. And if you beat loop 3, loop 4 is pretty insane.
@DarkYuan
@DarkYuan 2 жыл бұрын
THERE'S FOUR LOOPS!?
@jay_cee583
@jay_cee583 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkYuan There's unlimited I think. It gets faster and faster.
@magicbymccauley
@magicbymccauley Жыл бұрын
@@jay_cee583 No. It's four loops.
@jay_cee583
@jay_cee583 Жыл бұрын
@@magicbymccauley I've been to loop 12 myself. We talking the nes version?
@matthiasplatz5919
@matthiasplatz5919 2 жыл бұрын
One other difference between Loop 1 and 2 is that in Loop 1, the Axe and Shield weapons do not appear until stage 5. In loop 2, they can appear at any point.
@NeszVidz
@NeszVidz 5 ай бұрын
In the 2nd stage, if you avoid going up to the top floor and skip the secret armor, the fire doesn't spawn so you don't have to get hit by that bird to keep the knife.
@IrLosin
@IrLosin 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! thank you. I was playing some Castelvania SOTN and I was thinking about this weird Castelvania game I played as as kid on my NES, but I could not find it anywhere. And now I remember, it was this game! I was racking my brain about it..
@stacychamness9077
@stacychamness9077 2 жыл бұрын
After you finish Castlevania SOTN, look for a giant yellow/golden skeleton called Paranthropus, this enemy will drop a Gauntlet and Ring of Varda. You can find 3 of these enemies in the room above where you fight a boss named The Creature in the inverted castle. You'll want 2 Rings of Varda. Also, in the inverted castle, go to the library and look for a enemy called Schmoo. This enemy will drop a sword called the Crissaegrim. After you get this new sword, defeat the Guardians in the room below where you fight Shaft. They'll drop an armor called God's Garb. I hope my comment here helps you on this game. Have a great day!! 😎👍
@Blankult
@Blankult 2 жыл бұрын
@@stacychamness9077 he didn't even ask for that lol
@Bubonic22
@Bubonic22 Жыл бұрын
There's another hidden armor in the blue caves. At 11:20 (right before the two white devils spawn), jump from the left corner and an armor will spawn.
@faithfulflyingsquirrel2934
@faithfulflyingsquirrel2934 2 жыл бұрын
Diggin the debunks Ryu!! Much love!!
@joshuaspector8182
@joshuaspector8182 Жыл бұрын
I’m impressed. Not cuz you beat it (which still respect) but because you showcased the escape route with the damage boost in stage 2 😂
@Anjin-qg3ie
@Anjin-qg3ie 2 жыл бұрын
The one for master system, with the tornado monster, and the burning village, is so much harder than this one.
@TheArizonaAssasin
@TheArizonaAssasin Жыл бұрын
“I think the fire is better against the dragon” as he proceeds to completely wreck two dragons with da’ knife.
@jacobmetz3267
@jacobmetz3267 7 ай бұрын
-Great vid! Here's one for ya: at 8:00, if you don't need to get the armor, stay off the top floor, and that fire won't drop, blocking the ladder. -also, there is a cheat for this game. Kinda like the one for Contra(up, down, up, down, etc.) I don't remember exactly what it was but, the cheat allows you to start at any stage except the last one(where you fight the Devil). And also, the cheat negates needing the cross(shield) for the final boss.
@OttoBittoSplatoon
@OttoBittoSplatoon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you, I have finally beaten this monster of a game!! And with the good ending too! You did miss a couple useful tricks, such as another extra armour on level 3 (pretty late, on the stairs where the two flying dudes spawn), but you gave me the power of will to beat the game and I really needed the technique to kill the little red devils. You're great, Ryu!
@cyplexgames
@cyplexgames 2 жыл бұрын
This series is fun to watch. Are you gonna do the SNES version, too?
@chrismeulen8108
@chrismeulen8108 2 жыл бұрын
he played and beat that on 1 or 2 twitch streams like 4 years ago or something.... don't think that playthrough is still there though.....
@AnthonyFlack
@AnthonyFlack 2 жыл бұрын
All those hidden armour spots are very much an arcade thing. You'd learn about stuff like that by watching other people play, and the knowledge would gradually get passed around.
@kruksog
@kruksog 2 жыл бұрын
We "ran" this game over and over (it was one of a few options available at a buddies apartment) and we got to the point where we could reliably beat it. It's definitely doable. We weren't pro gamers at all. Edit: and I mean we were beating it without continues. We could reliably beat it on the first set of lives.
@johnburn872
@johnburn872 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE DO WIZARDS AND WARRIORS
@yuurou7927
@yuurou7927 2 жыл бұрын
Aside from obviously good, there're other reasons why get the knife. In the famicom version: The Unicorn is immune to cross/shield The Dragon is immune to lance/javelin The Big red devil is immune to both lance and axe So if you die at boss rush level with a cross/shield you're in deep shit -- fire is not enough to kill Unicorn with no damage since it arcs and can only allow 2 projectiles on screen. So you're stuck farming for a knife. They give you a lance for free -- but the dragon is immune. It's one of the most hostile game design I've seen in famous 8bit games.
@jaybennett2740
@jaybennett2740 2 жыл бұрын
This series has given me so much hope in beating these games. THANK YOU 😊
@joshuascholar3220
@joshuascholar3220 Жыл бұрын
Note, in the Japanese version, you don't get infinite continues. I think you get 3.
@Truephoria
@Truephoria 2 жыл бұрын
Congraturation!
@HowardHello
@HowardHello 2 жыл бұрын
You should do Karnov at some point. Not sure if it's a famously difficult game, but I couldn't get far into it when I was a kid, and I still can't. Kind of reminds me of Ghosts 'n Goblins.
@kind2311
@kind2311 Жыл бұрын
"Will you two stop saying 'knife' so much?"
@stang6552
@stang6552 2 жыл бұрын
I cant believe you actually did this one!! Dude you are a legend.
@Jb-uy5zx
@Jb-uy5zx Жыл бұрын
Started playing this game in 1987, finally beat it 30 years later.
@hawaiidkw1
@hawaiidkw1 Жыл бұрын
All right, little historical lesson here. In the pre-Internet, pre-globalization days of arcades, video game companies didn't make incredibly difficult arcade games, or torturous arcade games, or unfair arcade games... they made _arcade games,_ following whatever template the boss said was going to sell. Therefore, if a game was too hard, or too demanding, or too unbalanced, _there was no way to let the company know this._ All they could do was look at earnings reports and say, "Well, that one's run its course, back to the drawing board." In the case of Japanese companies, this was further complicated by the fact that non-Japanese speaking nations (which for a _very_ long time meant "every nation in the world other than Japan") had no means of even communicating with them. So yeah, there were some miscalculations, and given that an endless game _had_ to make the player fail at some point, more than a few of them went too far. I remember always hearing the exact same music from The Speed Rumbler because _no one ever made it past the first level._ Ghosts 'n Goblins? What's there to say that isn't obvious? Checkpoints. Severely limited mobility.Only being able to take two hits before dying. Enemies attacking from multiple directions. Enemies attacking from locations you can't attack. Enemies that can take 10 hits. Moving platforms that switch directions on a dime. Same as it ever was.
@Med1umentor
@Med1umentor 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, the entire "debunking the difficulty" could be ended at 5:00. Once you got the trick for "red devil" down, game isn't really that difficult anymore :D
@conorneligan7694
@conorneligan7694 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. The red arremers are way harder in some places than others. The first one is nothing compared to the one you have to fight in the last level. It's all to do with the level layouts and whatever else is going on around you.
@Med1umentor
@Med1umentor 2 жыл бұрын
@@conorneligan7694 Nah, it doesn't matter. Once you know what make him do a beeline over the top - it's just a point of not freaking out. Moreover, the most tricky devils aren't on last level, but ones on the huge staircase in the middle, where uneven ground make it tricky. Tricky, but that's it. Before knowing how to control devil's AI, game seems literally unbeatable. After that - it's just a matter of slightly above average difficulty. Last level isn't an exception.
@conorneligan7694
@conorneligan7694 2 жыл бұрын
@@Med1umentor >slightly above average difficulty what games are you playing lol, I've beaten this and it might the hardest game that I have. I did do it on 3DS which might've had some input lag compared to if I was playing it on original hardware but I can't imagine it makes the arremers that much easier. It's hard to consistently nail them. The last one is hard because of the combination of the double shot (on the second loop) and the big man firing down at you. Plus he activates before you get off the ladder, so he has a headstart on you. But yeah, the stage 3 ones are tough.
@hypnos9336
@hypnos9336 4 ай бұрын
last level is still ridiculously hard
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter 2 жыл бұрын
It's Red Arremer. I think it's pronounced "ah-reh-mer". Also, the dragon didn't spawn, because you passed by the good king statue. Surprised you didn't mention the extra life in stage four. Yeah, the shield can't kill the cyclops, and the javelin can't kill the dragon. The the thing with the shield (or cross in the Japanese version), my reasoning is that you need a Holy Weapon to fight Astaroth. Lastly, the Cross/Shield is good in that it cancels enemy projectiles.
@Bingo_the_Pug
@Bingo_the_Pug 2 жыл бұрын
Red Arremer AKA Firebrand
@matthiasplatz5919
@matthiasplatz5919 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the Axe cannot kill the bosses of 5 and 6. (the Satans)
@Paiste2002Fan
@Paiste2002Fan Жыл бұрын
My friends and I will often say, “I feel strongth welling in my body.”
@dslguy2008
@dslguy2008 Жыл бұрын
The invisible projectile at the third boss fight is the NES hardware limitations. Think of each rite of pixels as a scan line. One line can only display 8 sprites (which are usually 8x8). When a character that large throws a projectile, it results in more sprites present than the hardware can display. That’s also why sprites tend to flicker on busy levels.
@cezarandrade
@cezarandrade 2 жыл бұрын
15:20 No, I think what really happens is that the game has ran out of slots to spawn the boss, since you jumped over all the armor stuff and you left some of them behibd and they don't despawn, those are using slots the game has programmed to keep their data and position, so when you grabbed them you free some of the slots that those were using and so the boss can spawn now.
@akhandtripathipyz9888
@akhandtripathipyz9888 2 жыл бұрын
So it's a glitch
@cezarandrade
@cezarandrade 2 жыл бұрын
More like a bug, where the game works as intended but the developers didn't see the problem it would have for a player to leave items behind. I see glitches more like a game trying to handle something that was not intended to be managed that way, reaching a point of corrupting data or total crash of the game.
@jackbruno953
@jackbruno953 4 сағат бұрын
There are many weird details left over from the arcade version of the game. The game overs, the points, and beating the game twice. It seems when porting the game they didn’t tweak it to fit home console more.
@JS-oi5jt
@JS-oi5jt 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video of you saying, "Everyone equip healing potions to the hotbar if you haven't already. Uh, Kyle, go ahead and cast Arcane Brilliance to raise our intelligence. Stan, what enchantment does your Cloak of the Tiger have? Give the cloak to Kenny, he needs the agility boost for bow attacks. Kenny, get ready to turn on true-shot aura. At that moment, I will use intimidating shout. Okay, hit him with pyroblast, Kyle."
@macdaddymario
@macdaddymario 14 күн бұрын
7:58 fire doesnt spawn if you dont go to the upper level. Thanks AVGN! Yet another tip learned from the master.
@endlessoul
@endlessoul 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe the title. Ambitious, indeed!
@BladeOfLight16
@BladeOfLight16 2 жыл бұрын
Proof positive that knowing the best strategy is 90% of the battle.
@bluecollarbuddha948
@bluecollarbuddha948 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how much I enjoy this series. As a general suggestion for future games, I remember finding every game by Ocean on the SNES to be rediculously hard. Robocop 3 and The Addams Family drove me nuts.
@dimitrisalisafakis9054
@dimitrisalisafakis9054 2 жыл бұрын
The difficulty on this game was to aquire all the knowledge you found online, via trial and error, while spending pocket money. There is a puzzle japanese game named Meikyu Jima, or something. I would love to see you clearing it.
@SquatSmack
@SquatSmack Жыл бұрын
I’m not trying to be an asshole, but I do love, with this game’s standing and history and all, that after all that tediously hard work, you’re met with a simple “Congraturation.”
@stevelewnau193
@stevelewnau193 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with this game is the jump control. Unlike Mario or Metroid, you can’t really reposition midair and makes dodging difficult.
@Gamxin
@Gamxin 2 жыл бұрын
It's so you can shoot better
@dontrodella298
@dontrodella298 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to know what everyone thought about "fair" save points in retro gaming? Like spawn point saves, beginning of level saves? IMO it's the equivalent of leaving my NES on for WEEEEEEEEKS like we used to! Just curious, if you think it's cheese just explain why please :)
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm not saying this game is easy. I'm saying it's not as bad as we thought." In other words, you're debunking the difficulty. Well done, Ryu. Have a good one.
@TheArizonaAssasin
@TheArizonaAssasin Жыл бұрын
So, I’ve been playing this game steadily for the last 2 weeks on the NES virtual console on the Switch. I had never been able to get past the second half of the second level, so when I picked it back up, I decided to play it through using save states so I could get past level 2 for one, and so I could see what all this game would throw at me over 2 play throughs. However, because I used states to run through it, I knew that I could not say that I have actually beaten the game, rather I ran through it. So, I decided that I would run it again, and this time, I would only use the checkpoints that the game allots, and that I would only use save states at the checkpoints the game allots so I wouldn’t have to look at the stage screen and have to wait every time I lost a life. I have been stuck on level 6 for the last 3 days, and tonight, I FINALLY beat level 6 and beat Lucifer, and I have just started the second play through and will once again use only the checkpoints that the game allots, but when I finish the game, I still will not feel like I have beaten it properly, so I am going to do a 3rd play through where I use no save states at all, even if they’re at designated checkpoints, and I am going to wait on the level screen any time I die, and I am going to do it in 1-2 sessions. (Understand that in the 80s, if I was deep into a game that didn’t allow you to pick up where you left off, I’d leave my Nintendo on for a couple 2-3 days and pray that nobody turned it off, kicked it, or worse, it would glitch out.) On debunking the difficulty of this game- I would definitely say that you can make the first 3 levels a lot easier on yourself if you play the game right, level 4 is extremely easy, and while level 5 can definitely be a pain in the ass, once you know what to do, you can handle it pretty easily, but level 6- oh, hell no. The only way that I was able to beat level 6 was to just do it, and I literally played that level for 2-3 hours a day for the last 3 days. I finally got it tonight but I will say that if you’re playing level 6 without glitches, it is by far the most punishing level that I have ever played since I started gaming when I was 8 years old in 1987. In the last 3 days of playing level 6, I would have to say that I’ve given no less than 100 tries, probably significantly more. Either way, it is a very brutal level and to top it off, it throws a ton of cheap shots your way. When you clear the Unicorn and Dragon (which I was doing in no time flat) and get up into the tower where the Red Devils, Skeletons and Big Men are- cheap shot city, and those fucking ghosts are a huge pain in the ass because if you clear the unavoidable Red Devils and Big Men, the ghosts will either overwhelm you or you’ll end up firing a shot off and hitting an avoidable Red Devil and you’ll get screwed. The ONE saving grace though- Level 6 will force you to get better at the game, it will force you to learn how to take out Unicorns and Dragons in no time, it’ll force you to learn how to get Big Men to go the direction you want them to, and it’ll force you to learn how to time Red Devils, and it forces you to become much better at the game, so I definitely feel more confident about the second play through and more confident that after this play through, I’ll have the ability to get to where I play through the entire game in one sitting. This shit makes Kid Icarus look like Super Mario Bros.
@dawgeth321
@dawgeth321 2 жыл бұрын
Love this series, and I'll continue waiting patiently for Battletoads :)
@Satsui_No_Hado
@Satsui_No_Hado Жыл бұрын
You're easily one of my favorite content creators, I'm here for when you have a million subscribers that said I'm glad I've been here for a long time Your contents really phenomenal and fire And even when I'm having a bad week when I see one of your videos drops it makes my entire night Phenomenal work my friend 👊
@EuSouRCS
@EuSouRCS 9 ай бұрын
Another debunking thing is that you don't have to beat this game twice at all since it's an infinite looping based game with the same levels and same enemies,the only difference is their speed movement and projectile speed (and of course a goofy final screen).
@joshuamusicante4841
@joshuamusicante4841 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, Ghosts and Goblins, the game where you might as well wear armor made of paper as it is as protective. And also the game where the devil trolls you into playing a second time.
@tomhanks1769
@tomhanks1769 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Love seeing these videos, i don't play these games myself but that makes it all the more fun to watch.
@fyr3st0rm65
@fyr3st0rm65 Жыл бұрын
All of these old games seem to have a similar theme of 'screw up once and you might as well start from the beginning, but we'll give you extra lives just to make it SEEM fair'.
@macdaddymario
@macdaddymario 14 күн бұрын
Year late but, thats because a lot of them stem from the arcade scene. So they were designed to eat quarters. No quarters at home to eat. So you got arcade difficulty in the home, with a pitty mechanic that made you feel better about yourself. Miss that in games today.
@wolffiegaming
@wolffiegaming Жыл бұрын
I finally went through and beat this game. On level 2 the fire only spawns if you go to the top layer. And you can kill the trolls from the side through the wall making the down ladders free. Level 3 you glitch out the red devils. Take 1 shot with it half on the screen and run back. Then return and it disappears. Works on all but the last one. Level 6 still took me forever
@mutt-the-barbarian
@mutt-the-barbarian 10 ай бұрын
That little red devil caused so many tears of rage to kids that Capcom punished him by giving his own games so that he could suffer as he made kids suffer.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 2 жыл бұрын
Not only did I NEVER make it to LV 2 on BOTH the NES and Arcade version the Super version of the game on the SNES I never made it to LV 2 either so Super Ghouls and Ghosts is just as nearly impossible to beat with 0 death but the SWITCH port of the game is just as difficult.
@Himmel.Himmel
@Himmel.Himmel 2 жыл бұрын
the first time i watched ryu he was playing this game on twitch, and honestly it’s my favorite twitch vod of all time. glad to see it return!
@lukemather9653
@lukemather9653 2 жыл бұрын
You should definitely debunk Double Dragon II.
@Sequalsgoon
@Sequalsgoon 2 жыл бұрын
Always love these series, keep it up, my friend!
@dirtysouth9222
@dirtysouth9222 2 жыл бұрын
I love this series, but watching a professional gamer say that it isn't quite as hard as it seems is a tough pill to swallow
@Predaking4ever
@Predaking4ever 2 жыл бұрын
I like this series cause it is like anti-AVGN.
@fyr3st0rm65
@fyr3st0rm65 Жыл бұрын
To be fair if an average person picked any of these games up without knowing what they are they'd be virtually unplayable.
@superduty4556
@superduty4556 Жыл бұрын
@@fyr3st0rm65 unplayable? Little far I think.
@ericshun3331
@ericshun3331 Жыл бұрын
@@fyr3st0rm65 did you mean unbeatable
@rumbletown1563
@rumbletown1563 Жыл бұрын
@@superduty4556 nah I agree this game is unplayable for normies
@EuSouRCS
@EuSouRCS 9 ай бұрын
AVGN is all about fun,period.
@sway_onthetrail
@sway_onthetrail 2 жыл бұрын
Best way to put it is this series isn't Debunking the Difficulty of games, it's Demystifying the Difficulty.
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