Debunking The Manosphere...

[@Geologynut37]

You are so right. That’s why I’m so turned off by content creators. Most of them get paid 10 times more than I do by spreading hate and misinformation. I’m in the military and I can’t make close to what these cons can.

[@kshitijshekhar1144]

Very few make money from the RP industry. F&F made their money from real estate

[@DopeyDetector]

Paid murderer is angry people are paid more than him to spread hate😂😂😂 holy fukkkkk

[@TheNJB]

You hit the nail on the head. The dislikes are from people who got triggered

[@thenew4559]

Being a man isn't about accumulating useless material things like mansions and sports cars, nor is it about using women, it's about being a stable force for others around you, and for civilization as a whole.

[@GlomezAddemZ]

What do you do when your society needs stability from Progressives and those people want society to be different?

[@thenew4559]

@@GlomezAddemZthe most us average men can realistically do is act as a model of stability and masculinity for those around us, as well as raise strong and healthy families. That and civil disobedience against authoritarian laws, such as many did with the mask mandates and Covid lockdowns a couple years ago.

[@GlomezAddemZ]

I think we can demonstrate our masculinity by facing the people trying to rewrite shit, and showing them that while there might not be a wrong way to eat a Reese's, you'll never eat it by trying to stick it up your ass.@@thenew4559

[@GlomezAddemZ]

Also. that other stuff you mentioned might not be all there is to it, but you do need it in order to show off. And for sure, showing off is a part of it. That's part of civilization too.@@thenew4559

[@Sylaces]

"Its funny how masculinity is constantly being defined as giving everything to people who have done nothing to earn our loyalty."

[@---bl3sr]

Anyone who claims that you need to prove their manhood with flexing with their finances and bad hehavior is pathetic, when all you really need to do is to drop your pants.

[@milascave2]

ii It's kind of ironic that the same conservatives who say "If you are born female and reach adulthood, you are a woman. If you are born male and reach adulthood, you are a man, period "are usually the first ones to say that you have to do this, that, and the other thing in order to be a "Real" man.

[@bluegiant13]

The real matrix is that getting rich or at least have a stable life is going to bring you true love. If men knew that this is not the case, society would collapse. But they have brainwashed men that this is what they will get.

[@aubreyplazasuncle]

that is so untrue. the manosphere also attracts 1000s of men who are either rich or have a stable life. they feel bitter and a sense of shame and entitlement because they were TOLD getting to that point would bring them love or women

[@padmac8176]

The way to breaking the matrix is love and intimacy, from these things come happiness and contentment, elevating the human spirit. The "manosphere" will not help youngsters with these things. Great video mate. Plus you have confirmed what I always believed about breaking the matrix 👍🙏

[@ghst_dnce]

Love is the answer, as it is said. I never cared for cliche's, but I have experienced a lot of truth in that one.

[@biyidesalu2869]

Bro im 38 and just want to say great content and your perspective and integrity is commendable for someone your age, keep doing what youre doing youre on the right path 👊

[@urzmontst.george6314]

"Product". Thank you for saying that word. You get a sub just for exposing Tater-Tots for what he is. You are telling it here, thank you for this.

[@nightruler_]

Whoever disliked this is extremely in denial.. Thank you Tom. This video made me feel a lot better knowing others out there feel the same.

[@arrancolbourne8031]

It'd say the biggest problem with the manosphere (and many other 'spheres' of society) is two things 1. Theres a standard you have to live up to, if you're able to live up to it (and nobody defines the standards, the goal posts shift at a persons whim) you're fine. If you're not able to live up to it, you're wrong/bad in an absolute sense. Its so black and white, and since its around the idea of perfection nobody can really live up to it. 2. All the 'spheres' have been influenced by people who don't want to really help out the people they profess to stand for. They just want to inflate the problems and argue with someone. They're more in love with conflict than actually bringing society on a better track. We need more neutral people from all walks of life, to get together around their shared goals of bringing society in a better direction who can put that as a goal above whatever cause they stand for, above whatever group they identify with.

[@billybro1403]

I agree with you completely. This manosphere ideology is cringe af! I've no idea how it suddenly became a thing because I swear I thought it was a parody starting out lol...regardless I'll keep an eye out on your content. You've earned a sub

[@IHEARTCOQUETTECLOTHES.777]

This feels so genuine. Its refreshing to see a man that doesnt hate women talk about mens issues .Its so sad redpillers who are very hateful and empty people prey on young mens loneliness converting young lonely and insecure men. Honestly as a woman you genuinely seem to care about mens issues instead of seeth and hate women. Oddly the manosphere does absolutely despise women yet surround there lives talking about them. For all the all the men who actually care about mens issues instead of play the victim or hate women i just want to say thank you. Manosphere seems to make men miserable and angry. Thank you for helping men and not being violently misgonistic to women💛 hope all your mental health is good.

[@almcdonald8676]

I view the manosphere as I view feminism. It had some valuable insights once but now has just become a racket. The difference of course is that the manosphere has been a racket for about 3 years and feminism for 50 years

[@ruslanagadzhanyan2753]

Holy fing shit! Self improvement KZbinr not just speaking some sense (most of those speak absolute bs), but spitting the facts like crazy. You got yourself a new viewer congrads.

[@tomscarborough]

Haha appreciate that brother

[@TheLazyPirateGuy]

I really liked the message at first be the best version of you exercise take care of loved ones etc I missed the point where it devolved into treating women bad and putting other men down and flexing some things that are most of the time just rented where did the self improvement and being good attitude go my mma coach said that being real man is a man who keeps his word and takes care of his loved ones and that it's the only definition we need

[@gailainsley6939]

6:15 I’ve never understood why the men always speak to literal adult entertainers and then class them as ‘all women’. They are upset that the women they want aren’t behaving the way that they want them to? It makes no sense to me. There are plenty of normal women out there. Yet. The obsession is always with getting these girls to behave a certain way. Why is that? 😂😴

[@fredo3816]

perfect reading of "the situation" out there !

[@oleghrozman4172]

Thank God I was never a fan of "Manosphere". Because those channels are just waste of time. I highly agree that modern people just don't know what the Real Man truly looks like. Modern boys don't have a good "father" figure. In old ancient times there were an old traditional rituals made by man for young boys, but those traditions are forgotten. We must study our own history to understand how our ancestors lived, then we can understand ourselves and become better. My personal "man" figure are Carl Jung and Peter Kingsley, and this is enough for me.

[@brianmeen2158]

No the manosphere channels are not a waste of time. Like any ideology, the “red pill” has its good points and it’s bad. Most adults can decide which ones to take and use and which ones to ignore

[@ProTele-ql5om]

@@brianmeen2158 the problem is that a lot of young and influencable boys watch these without any criticism. I saw a clip of sneako with young teenage boys saying gays should d!e and women are all wh0res

[@shezgokal1382]

Damn bro fellow tech person on full time self improvement? Beautiful stuff man ❤️

[@tomscarborough]

Haha cmon Shez!

[@thestupidcupcake8334]

Good points friend! I hope that your channel grows!!

[@montyturner6511]

It's honestly both scummy and disgusting how they claim to want to help young men in life. But end up being a mixed bag at best yet harming them at their worst. And the worst part is that inexperienced young man might as well be in a echoes chamber if he or others are convinced that women are heartless individuals whom just don't understand men. Godspeed to those young men who seek help without any manosphere's influencing their actions and taking life head on. I hope other young men will do same as well.

[@tomscarborough]

I enjoyed reading your comment Monty. I liked how you mentioned they're a 'mixed bag' - people like F&F DO understand the furstrations of men and will make occasional points that most guys will agree with. Unfortunately they also understand that emotional men are the easiest to sell against.

[@montyturner6511]

​@@tomscarboroughYep. And that's the scummy part about the Manosphere.

[@GlomezAddemZ]

You shouldn't just call them emotional. To resist emotions is to ultimately deny them. The negative emotions bely a problem that needs solving. Solve the problem, no more negative emotions. What nobody addresses is that emotional men torture themselves with their beliefs.@@tomscarborough

[@reibubbles2505]

Based on the dislikes, the people who needed to hear this the most, found you. Great job.

[@tuukkasavolainen5734]

It is true at some sence to understand what is wrong or twisted in the world and they are just bringing up the proplems that are real and they make good points but to understand of it all is probable but not possible at the same time, it is just good to see what problems we have as men and at the same time you just have to listen all and make your own decisions on your own lives and make the most of it and boys should have good role models

[@tomscarborough]

That's true brother, the problems are real but we must reach our own conclusions on things.

[@tuukkasavolainen5734]

@@tomscarborough you are not wrong 👍 keep up the good work

[@antoniogo6931]

Thanks to the manosphere and the red pill now... No more heartbreaks, no more overspending and being used, now I have a 19 y/o virgyn girlfriend, no porn, no masturbation, workout 5 days a week, no debt, I have my own car , already building my house, the manosphere goes beyong Tate or F&F.

[@Asterion80]

Wise words, thank you ❤❤

[@SethHMG]

Excellent video. Boost.

[@Isack363]

Wise guy make the world better. I'm 27 but I belive you can learn from enyone

[@HidingSleeper]

Aragorn. Aragorn is a good example of healthy masculinity.

[@szcynkowsky162]

Thank you! My thoughts exactly. And I'm 69 now ...

[@oliviedolezelova2638]

This was great, thanks. I am kinda worried that so much boys listen to this stuff..

[@ultramegadavidbowie6314]

Problem is that completely different ideologies and groups of people are all placed under one term "manosphere". Not everyone who is talking about men's issues preaches materialism and sells courses on how to become "high value man" or some other stupid bs.

[@HeyLady08]

Yes to everything you said.

[@drot13]

I don't follow manosphere so I'm out of tuch with rules... Riding a bicycle to work is not manly enough? I'm a police officer and ride a bicycle to work so my wife can take our car to work (she also ride a bicycle, but her work is in a nearby town and she works in unusual shifts,. so it's more logic that she takes the car). I am confused...

[@tomscarborough]

Haha nothing wrong with it pal…just making a joke

[@drot13]

@@tomscarborough I know, I know, don't worry.:-) You were clear and gave a good take on this issue, but I once saw a conversation with similar premise - you are not a man if you don't have a car, and I live in Croatia which isn't so carcentric. You gave a fair look on this matter, thank you.

[@dsds3968]

There are some truthful parts of the wider manosphere. Mainly some of the black pill content creators.

[@Rain-ec4jj]

How about the red pill guy Rich Cooper aka Richard Cooper? Is he right about what he teach?

[@TheBriefwastekan]

that gave me a new better point of view

[@thomaslawrence6353]

I used to follow the 'manosphere' and it only made my problems worse.

[@thuglaza4728]

8:19 That STFU came from the bottom of his heart🤣

[@peterGnash]

caught me off guard, was expecting something lame but was pleasantly surprised. I would point out that more toxic parts of the space are only popular and useful for dudes who need to depedastalise women. In that regard its quite effective at showing dudes that a beautiful woman isn't everything its cracked up to be. A lot of dudes in today's day were raised under primary influence of their mother (divorce rates, single mother rates etc.) and a lot of dudes find themselves in this trap. And since, humans project their parental relationship onto their future romantic ones, these guys need to see strange, attractive women get hurt, confronted or just old-school pwned in order to finally feel the separation from the mother. Something that culture and tech are also inhibiting. Lastly, I'll add social media alone has given rise to what's mostly likely (from an academic perspecitive) the most narcissistic generation of women that have ever existed. And that's before you count the past decade (or two) of toxic AF feminism (and social justice in general). NIce vide mate, gave a like for the algo.

[@AtlasReactionPodcast]

Wut u r saying is true. In fact, I'm a woman and my social circle is really restricted cuz I'm careful and analytic. I've a male friend and when I met his acquaintances, they were a bunch of butthurt people who claims it's better to date many other girls including the one u're initially interested on, so if she dumps u, they'll have a second option. These same people get frustrated if their girl leaves, like bro, u r literally cheating from day one cuz u r insecure that she's gonna cheat on u first lol this said, from the moment he consumes the red pill bs. Another thing about the red pill is the men being oppressed cuz they can't express their emotions or complain. First, men lose their shit easily and fastly, anger is an emotion after all, then they get agressive or they drive like a gta NPC and get accidents (his friends later on blame the girl and sometimes make her life a living hell). Second, for those saying women cry a lot, it's not that they get devastated or sad quick, but it's quite facile to trigger tears for a certain age gap (quite frankly, they r more resistant and tolerent to bs and drama than men r, just take a look at how women and men react regarding to children making a fuss at home). Third, if we pretend that men should be void of emotions, then get ready to visualise a robot wojak face, that's just impossible, we r all humans. Or r we referring to the endless vent? It's badly perceived from both genders, cuz it means that the person talking will never appreciate wut he still has and always look at wut's not possessed yet or compare himself to others. Also, Guys, if u go to the gym or whatever, u do it for urself. Women do makeup for themselves. Wut goes in ur mind when u catch the flu for days or go through a hard period? We all tend to let ourselves go but it only makes us feel worse and enhances the negative energy. U look at urself in the mirror and be like: wut am I looking at? This can't be me? I wanna die... Wut's also funny is that it's based on 3.0 feminism (that I seriously classify as woke tendency with all the LGBT thing) with opinions based on ur experiences that r due to ur acts. Yo wut? Tho it's ok, if it's based from their pov, it's fine, but if it's her pov and opinion, everyone goes berserk. U seriously should start checking at the reality of the world, feminism started to fight for valid reasons, it's a value equality, there's no way a man can be a woman or a woman can be a ma, we both have our own characteristics which is why the void should be filled. I personally live in a third world country, they most likely have the same mentality and social structures. U wouldn't believe me if I tell u that few years ago, if a woman takes a bottle of water outside, she'll get lapidated. Of course, If u get raped, ur father or ur husband or ur bro will butcher u. It's also right for men to kill their wives if their woman wants a divorce, they don't get pursued (check the Egyptian justice for example). We all get called hoes and bitches the moment we step outside to go to school, college or work. A man is less valuable and girls have privilege? In traditional families, they celebrate the birth of sons and grief over the birth of girls, sometimes they kill them or abort (then when these parents become old, they victimize themselves cuz they don't have a daughter who's ready to sacrifice her career and life to take care of them by pure obligation even if they did her dirty) If a woman is pregnant with a girl, she gets humiliated by the husband's family, they kick her out and she has no right to marry someone else for the rest of life unlike men (and we all know that men r those who provide the y chromosome). Some times they'll also claim it's an illegitimate child so the groom's family won't get dishonored by few mentally stable and logical people. Women prefer to work than stay at home (+ has to do all the traditional rules without getting any knowledge from her husband, and she has to sftu btw) cuz if her husband dies, whether she has children or not, the male's family will own her and every material thing provided by the deceased guy. In several times, when unable to bear all the BS from the family in law (since yea, often, when men marry women, they change the second their wedding is over, their women will be obliged to serve her full family in law and forget about her own tree) she prefers to stay in the streets, be surrounded by cats and lose her mind. Another point I wanna add although there r lot of things to be said, these hosts feel better about women with less pride yet again insult every female and call them a hoe (which is someone who has no pride at all for me) and when someone doesn't wanna depend on u and wanna pursue her dreams too, it's called selfish? Ah, u value ur job more than family, Sherlock, if I bring money, I can provide a better life for my children u know? Wut's selfish is ordering someone to let go of all their efforts cuz they r insecure that she's gonna bring more than him or she'll cheat on him (that's the only claim they r capable to put cuz they think with their d***) À gud wife is a woman who supports her husband (but they prefer the word submit as if they own u and they r ur leader in some sort) a gud husband is also someone who supports his wife. We all have one owner and one leader and that is God. It's said in the Bible I believe that eve is created from Adam's rib, not from his feet so that he'll step on her, and not from her head so that she's gonna boss him too. We r all equal in terms of values, just use ur logics, we r not animals, we don't depend on instinct and pulse, we r gifted with a brain and a heart too, we put ourselves in someone else's shoes. This is wut builds a complementary and healthy society. Take care dude, this was an interesting vid, keep up the gud work and I hope ur channel grows as quickly as possible! U deserve it X)

[@tomscarborough]

Thanks for the thoughtful comment, I’m glad it raised some interesting talking points for you. Nice to get a woman’s perspective on this topic.

[@techni1766]

Was expecting a guy reacting to videos for a channel of your size but got a 50k sub youtuber experience. Keep it up!

[@tomscarborough]

Appreciate the kind words

[@victormutta1115]

Keep this production value up and I’ll bet you’re hitting 250K subs in 9-18 months.

[@tigerada77]

Amazing work bro! I watched until the last second ;)

[@tomscarborough]

Appreciate you my brother

[@ProTele-ql5om]

the problem with your video is that it's not radicalized enough, we need to think when we listen and people don't like that, they want easy solution for their personnal problems and they are ok with paying hundreds for that even if it's bs, they'll feel good

[@flamurljimani6707]

Do you have an email for business inquiries?

[@rabbychan]

You don't F other women when you're in a relationship, you're talking about bums like fresh&fit and tate. Like I said in my previous comment, talk to Rollo.

[@PrestonGarveyofthesettlements]

Rollo may actually be worse.

[@rabbychan]

Because he's married so he's supposedly contradicting what he's preaching, is that what you're thinking? How much have you read and did you watch his earliest streams, yes or no? @@PrestonGarveyofthesettlements

[@PrestonGarveyofthesettlements]

@@rabbychan Oh no, I'm not saying he's contradicting himself because he's married. In fact that's supposed to be one of many goals in the red pill space. But he did contradict himself in other ways, the most recent example being his list he put out, saying that it wasn't advice and then using the definition of the word 'advice' to describe his list. He's also quick to react in a negative manner instead of maintaining the frame of a rational male whenever confronted.

[@rabbychan]

He's definitely not perfect and I agree with that last part, that's why I suggest his earliest streams, he's much more humble there.@@PrestonGarveyofthesettlements Can you send me the clip or timestamp of the stream where he talks about that list, I'm curious.

[@PrestonGarveyofthesettlements]

@@rabbychan kzbin.infoxP8JXeG0G7w?si=DMCt5RF3r0CJXO52 at the 1:36:30 mark, rollo joins the fnf podcast and debates sneako and destiny on it.

[@svartvist]

Old man of 73 here (married for 50 yrs, raising 10 children). Been inspecting these various male movements for the last 6+ yrs.You're on track, using your noggin and cutting through the slag. Keep it up, just don't be seduced by the same motives they have been. I've written against (and not limited to) A.Tate's marriage attitude, Tom Leykis, F&F, Rollo, Better Bachelor, Christine G. Smith, Alexander Grace and even Pearl over some of their ideas. With few exceptions do they have the wisdom, learning, and foresight to lead young men (or women) out of trouble. Some of what they say is just common sense that any introspective and attentive person can figure out. Some of it I wished that I had been exposed to when I was young. Few of the problems they talk about, especially regarding relationships is new. It just wasn't as easy to discover then, but its there in the literature of the times. As a history buff I've observed their presence among men and women as old as recorded history. Only one way to make these issues diminish, and none of them are talking about it. I dislike how metaphors are treated with indiscretion, soon losing their relevance. All "Red Pill" meant was waking up to reality--that not everything is as it may appear. Many who have presumed they have come out of the Matrix fail to realize that Neo never escaped it. And so it is with much of what these "influencers" do not get. What they're offering is not a way out, but merely conflict avoidance. Important, but not the "solution."

[@trevorrovert3103]

Fresh&Fit have a call-in show every week. Instead of making these cringy hit pieces for clout, why not call in and expose them live?

[@svartvist]

For those who have been around the block with Tom Leykis and his show, you never take the host to task on his own turf. They'll just talk over you you until you expire.

[@zacharybosley1935]

How many times have people like Destiny or Jazmen, or Farha actively pulled up the data that counters Myron's worldview to his face, to Rollo's Face, only to be blatantly ignored in order to push their Redpill Narrative? Being on their home turf does create an environment conducive to tempering their beliefs, because they're not motivated by a pursuit of truth or accuracy.

[@rrichmond14]

Because they charge 20 bucks for people to call in

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@rrichmond14 no shot, seriously? That's insane. who would spend 20 for 30 seconds of fame like that?

[@rrichmond14]

@zacharybosley1935 it's facts. I've been wanting to call in but refuse to pay that.

[@hardone7317]

How do you explain dating apps? Why women only swipe on 5 to 10% of men? How are men to be blamed for women's increasing requirements for good looks and height?

[@ProTele-ql5om]

dating apps are not reality

[@hardone7317]

@@ProTele-ql5om 60% of women nowadays find their current bf, FwB on a dating app. Why the hell are you pretending they are not real life?

[@OmarJones-t5q]

I love the red pil

[@xuoario]

i hope your channel grow dude

[@psychopathgains2510]

Son you have much to grow.

[@kev9617]

11:45

[@dangonzalezb]

1. Red pill is about looking at things for what they are, not the propaganda, not the slogans. Just looking at things honestly, it's beyond women. 2. That ceteris paribus a high status man will have an advantage in relationships with women is obvious, Why does this guy think that is somehow controversial?

[@zacharybosley1935]

The stats supporting most Redpill Assertions are qualified at best. Looksmaxing has minimal impact on sexual partners. Dominance doesn't increase your probability of securing a long-term mate Hypergamy literally has not been replicated outside of the simulated environment of dating apps and the list goes on.

[@dangonzalezb]

@@zacharybosley1935 "The stats supporting most Redpill Assertions are qualified at best. " 1. What's the source for those "stats"?Sounds like you are making those up, as there was no mention of anything concrete (journal article, survey). 2. The red pill as a space for general men's content is only a few years old and yet you talk about long-term partners, 3. "Hypergamy literally has not been replicated outside of the simulated environment of dating apps" That's such BS, female hypergamy has always existed and it keeps on going, every sociological survey finds newlywed women overwhelmingly choose wealthier/upper status men as their husbands. i.e. Gender Asymmetry in Educational and Income Assortative Marriage-Journal of Marriage and family (2017)

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@dangonzalezb oh boy oh boy, The Journal of Marriage and Family? My dude, in that same study they literally blame men for women's habit of marrying upwards. "evidence suggests that men may still feel uncomfortable forming relationships in which they have lower status than their female partners." That's not women marrying upwards because they're gold-digging harlots, that's Men refusing to put up with anybody who threatens their status as "The Breadwinner." It is literally a skill issue of close-minded men who have defined themselves by being superior to their partner.

[@rabbychan]

Have a talk with Tomassi, you're misinterpreting some core principles of the red pill as many do, it's hilarious. RP attracts many toxic, immature, angry boys who have zero ability to even introspect. Talk to him and you'll understand.

[@bro918]

facts

[@j0ery]

he misinterpret all

[@1REDGOBLIN]

you sound like that guy on a rave trying to sell me a meth cut pill as pure e, fuck off

[@urzmontst.george6314]

"But a high value man has leverage!" Shut the ____ up. Nailed it.

[@priestmorrison6564]

Jack OF ...'ALL'...trades. *master Of..None Ben.. 💡⚡ electryc..FRANKLIN

[@rimiserk8277]

hahaha, youre funny

[@tariqwilliams5493]

77 7 :)

[@tariqwilliams5493]

you are an angel. thank you

[@yep81]

dope vid

[@Ziero_H]

Ahh the two glowies…leave it up to feds to ruin men

[@XavierJAlexander]

I agree with a lot of what you say and well done for making this video. However, there are quite clear links between manosphere ideologies and white supremacy, even from black creators. Having said that, it doesn't take away from the point that suicide is the biggest killer of men and much more needs to be done about it. All these manosphere grifters use these lonely and vulnerable men to make money, when ironically the break down of society (in this way specifically) can be traced back to the hyper capitalistic policies of the 1980's and its only accelerated since.