Deceive & Win: Get Opponents to Bluff!

[@spacecadetsMia]

Great call. I like how Nate asks Bart what he would do first on each street then goes over what he did and why.

[@borknagarpopinga4089]

No way in hell would I have only called. I would want to see that fold getting 48-to-1. :D :D

[@chrisko6439]

Hero shoulda put the last 80$ in, so villain had to fold his air getting more than 20 to 1, haha.

[@borknagarpopinga4089]

Was even almost 50 to 1 :D

[@sr4087]

And then villain and table doesnt know what hero has; information; and lack thereof is power

[@timsullivan4566]

Talk about 2 people on the exact same wavelength! Great video! 👍👍👍

[@moneymikz]

Why not raise the river? I realized any missed draws won’t call but he has the effective nuts

[@williammickle9077]

great insight! "you have to bet to win" can be a dam-bursting leak.

[@WeAreAwakeTV]

Your videos are really helping my game. Thank you!

[@lowlimitcashgamespodcast]

I think one thing people miss when “so many straight draws and so many flush draws exist” is that villain can only hit one exact straight draw. So the more of them that exist, the more they actually miss. With flush draws any suit makes their draw. So all the combos they can hold come in. On this board 98, 97, 87, Q9, Q8, K9, KQ, AK, is a lot of straight draws. Obviously those suited in diamonds hit with a diamond. But the rest have to hit exactly. Meaning if any one of them that isn’t a diamond comes in, that means 21 combos of straight draws misses. All of the straight draws that aren’t diamonds. People check back too much when one of many straight draws hit. Villain has more that missed than hit. So in instances where SPR is one like in this case you just put it in regardless unless specifically the flush draw comes.

[@Stockhandle123]

Villain almost never has a straight here (only 87d) and almost never has a strong hand here so i like checking this river in hopes villain bluffs.

[@datsumcrzysht]

While I agree in theory for the most part, not all straight draws are equally distributed based on any given V’s range. For example, in this situation, the likelihood of holding KQ is higher than say a 2,3.

[@AT-bw4cm]

I think you missed the point of the call. When you get to the river and your opponent is pretty much capped to having a busted draw, you should give them a chance to bluff. The one caveat I would add would be: when trying to induce a bluff from a higher thinking opponent, sometimes it is better to bet small like you just want to fold out draws (like you might have a busted draw yourself,) but doesn't look like an obvious block bet. Something like $175 in this hand.

[@pot_kivach160]

10:26 _your hand is just a call, Right?_ Wrong! Most of time your hand is a winner here, therefore a raise is a must.

[@Stockhandle123]

This is a jam on the river. Villain had $80 left pot was $1885. If was bluffing with a pair he is going to call and if he folds not showing your hand is worth more than $80.

[@Its__Good]

I assume that hero just lost track of the pot.

[@kevinb5436]

if he folds then hero doesn’t have to show his hand?

[@jackryanTV]

I call with nut low with 80 left something something pot odds 😂

[@daveythehand4964]

@@kevinb5436correct

[@Stockhandle123]

@@kevinb5436 yeah obviously

[@Bobbypinker]

I don’t agree that when villain bets $600 you just call here. You shove. 95% of the time, you’re good here with top set, and if villain has any pair at all, he’ll call the rest just for the pot odds. Not throwing in that last $80 when you’re this good is leaving money on the table. If villain has air, they fold, and you’ve lost nothing by shoving.

[@JJ-yn8fl]

I think he left $30 or whatever behind at the end because he knew he wasn't putting anymore in and wanted to leave himself money for a couple drinks after busting lol..Also, Hero should always just call in that spot, instead of raising for the last bit of change (unless he has the stone nuts, then raise obviously) because calling makes his opponent show first, and if Hero is then beat he can muck and not show.

[@shawnfogelman6847]

Very well played Nate! I would say this play works a lot of the time in the $2/$5 NL games, both in Cincinnati, as well as Jacksonville. I also believe this play is a little bit player dependent as well. Having played many years in Cincinnati, and currently in Jacksonville, you would not see this play at the $1/$2, $1/$3 and the $2/$2 games. I do like the possibility of throwing out a small type of block bet on the river if you believe your opponent is not likely to bluff on it if it is checked to him or her. Sometimes with that block bet, very small in comparison to the pot will often induce the missed draws to jam all in due to them seeing such a bet on the river as very weak and possibly that you too missed your draw. But again, I would say that is very player dependent, and you would have to have some time and/or hours played with that particular opponent in order to come to that conclusion. But very well done regardless!

[@budapestgambit8946]

I think its a good line to give villain to buff when we hard block top set. Villain then has very few AJ, KJ which they may even fold after overbet turn line to a river bet. They are probably folding all worse to a bet, AT and pair plus draw so we don't miss any value from those and we have a lot of check give ups river so checking definitely helps balance that range. Villain has so much air that can land here depending on how loose they are and are just not going to check back their 98 or KQ. I think it can sometimes be forgotten as well that while solvers say don't bluff flush draws alot of recs still will bluff with these cards

[@gabrielrockman]

Should Nate have raised the river? If 8-7 of diamonds is the only straight, and there are three combos of pocket 10s, maybe it's better to raise? If you're only getting called by straights and sets of 10s, maybe its still the right move to raise?

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

I could imagine due to the insane pot odds they’d be getting someone calling with Tx diamonds or even worse hands. Since they’re getting about 20:1 maybe they just hope hero has misread the board, lost track of the pot size or is drunk or whatever.

[@SuperSlayinJJ]

Great call and great hand. Nate is 🧠

[@jaylo9421]

The block bet works when the backdoor flush comes in because villain knows you are capped at top set and may rep the flush. The check is best in a spot like this where the draws bricked out for the reasons nate outlined. Great discussion!

[@gino8383]

Nate !! You messed up big time that hand ! ? The correct river play is to go into the tank ….. let him think you’re contemplating a fold … then the jam it on him and make him fold $30 into $2k+ 😎 Jokes, perfectly played hand 👏 and great insight into your thought process ! 🙏🏼

[@johnny8309]

This was a perfect opportunity for the reverse spaz block bet.

[@jimmymason6893]

Cincy reg here. Let's go Queen City!!!

[@kineahora8736]

Basically 87♦️♦️ and 87♣️♣️ maybe. So choose lead for value, check to induce, and maybe a nice spot to protect your blocking range by making a blocker bet… Ha! Bart considers the block-induce! I like the block-induce mostly vs the best most aggressive players at the game…

[@Badbentham]

Hero's range after overbetting Turn / checking River: TP(TK) + , and all the give-ups ( draws) . Villain's value range that he may pot with River: JT ( possible) , and exactly 87dd. - So: If Villain really wants to bluff, then small, primarily to get Ax draws to fold. Even though it is still very hard to represent anything, as Jx should likely check behind.

[@coreydiller80]

This river seems like a slam dunk check spot. I can't imagine what hand calls 2/3 for two streets that doesn't brick out. Even if there are some 10s here, they would have to be truly terrible to call a river bet. Over pairs would likely raise pre.

[@daithi1966]

My reaction on the river here would have been to bet a small amount like $50 to either induce a bluff or give such great odds that I get a call. However, after listening to Nate and Bart, I have to agree with them and think the check to induce a bluff is probably more profitable here.

[@gunsandgaragegear601]

Yep. Checking screams weakness

[@Kd4c]

The caller said that as soon as the villain bet and he called, the villain mucked. Does the collar then have to show his hand? I do agree that if you don't have to show your hand, you don't give information to the other players. But on the other hand, if people know you will check top set on the river, are they going to try to bluff you in a similar situation when you raise pre-flop bet the flop, big bet on the turn and check River? I think this is a lot of villain dependent. My biggest problem is that when I hit a strong hand I'm going to want to get paid. How many times do you check a monster on the river and they check top pair or second pair behind when they would have called a third size bet or even a half size bet thinking that you're bluffing them.

[@fluffysheap]

If opponent mucks, you never have to show.

[@bochuanzhang6130]

I hear extreme protection on the turn

[@azother1]

Freaks me out as I keep hearing Bart talking to me. Wish I could get the fish to bet into me when I'm near the top of my range.

[@javierb479]

I bluff catch with 73 and always get shown set of 66+ with xx,1.1p, p jam line….

[@dmoneyrepresent7024]

Can someone please help me understand the concepts around term ‘unblock top pair’? TIA 🥂

[@calewhitney8812]

The term means that the hero's hand does not contain the highest card on the board. For instance if the hero had 10 10 on this hand it would make it more likely that the opponent could have a hand like Ace Jack and call a river value bet. Since the hero had JJ it greatly reduces the chances that the opponent has a hand that can call a river shove.

[@revbenball]

Do you ever post calls that fold before the river?

[@Tomatolover120]

Yes there have been a lot of them

[@CrushlivePoker]

yes and everyone bitches at the lack of result :)

[@jamesbell1613]

I would shove the river just so I don't have to show my hand. Such a puny amount left.

[@pot_kivach160]

would that matter? After you raised last $80 and get snap folded, everyone will know that you had a monster anyway.

[@jamesbell1613]

@@pot_kivach160 Shrug... Might get called by worse too.

[@patrick_kyker]

I never use a blocker bet so I don't know how to balance it.

[@Mauricio-kf8qx]

mediocre hands that’s still beat value for example 2 pair or sets on 4 to a straight run out balance it with nutted hands when looking to induce a bluff raise.

[@dandattola]

I would bluff at this, if I missed my draw because that's a lot of money in the pot (considering the stakes) and it's the only way to win if I missed.

[@BengalsOAL]

WHO DEY!

[@jdaz5462]

We have a player named Cincy Joe in Arizona. Haven't seen him in a while. Maybe he's back in Cincy? Who knows Joe?

[@patrick_kyker]

All the draws missed so they could easily have a draw that missed and has no show down value that would bluff.

[@steveb9525]

The micro bet induces a huge raise sometimes

[@a_canal]

Let me start off by saying I think your content is excellent Bart. But I don’t think this hand was interesting