DEEP DIVE: The Shocking Timeline of Taylor Swift & Matty Healy

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Swiftologist

Swiftologist

Күн бұрын

well...here we are, making the video I NEVER wanted to make....a full deep dive and timeline of Taylor Swift and Matty Healy's brief interruption, slight malfunction etc etc. Aka the nexus of the tortured poets department, our latest download of taylore from the mothership. In this video we ask ourselves....was any of it true? Unpacking the years in which these two modern idiots circled each other before finally closing in. Towards the end of the video I do a juicy lyrical analysis of moments where I think we may have missed the mark on the muses. Enjoy!
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0:00 - 3:33 context
3:33 - 6:00 why matty drove her insane
6:00 - 7:00 1989 is NOT about matty
7:00 - 9:25 neolithic age
9:25 -12:16 middle age
12:16 - 18:40 ice age
18:40 - 32:47 information age
32:47 34:00 revisiting lover
34:00 - 36:00 revisiting folklore
36:00 - 42:00 revisitng evermore
42:00 revisiting midnights

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@theswiftologist
@theswiftologist 22 күн бұрын
by popular demand here's my emotional chronology of the matty healy interlude playlist: open.spotify.com/playlist/7yRZZDNaps3970tYm7QyzW?si=494c02a7f77345de I'll be walking you through it song by song on the patreon!! www.patreon.com/swiftologist/ (this isn't a STRICT chronology, it's more of a vibe check in a sense...you'll notice there are some 1975 songs in there too)
@dramatictoons9303
@dramatictoons9303 13 күн бұрын
Oh no, they'll call taylor a victim player now for the songs she wrote about ratty
@LKYme
@LKYme 11 күн бұрын
What about "The Alchemy"? Do you think it might also be about Ratty, despite the many football references? P.S. You forgot to add "Peter". 😜
@kaleyburchette
@kaleyburchette 22 күн бұрын
“did you ever have someone kiss you in a crowded room, and every single one of your friends is making fun of you” has unfortunately never made more sense than it does when it’s referring to this man
@lambulance
@lambulance 9 күн бұрын
honestly, this lyric line is most likely about Karlie and kissgate
@thelakes6477
@thelakes6477 8 күн бұрын
​@@lambulance that thing is so weeird because it feels eerily fitting to the lyrics and it probably did happen; but I don't think the whole kaylor or gaylor thing was ever real. People's main argument was that the "official taylor dating timeline" didn't completely add up, but after so many years I've come to the conclusion that the reason why it doesn't add up is because most of her relationships definitely overlapped (she's a cheater, we've known). The whole Matty Healy scandal helped filling a lot of holes in the narrative.
@danichiong6727
@danichiong6727 23 күн бұрын
“Swirled you into all of my poems”…one of the most devastating things she’s ever said
@junainahrahman4156
@junainahrahman4156 23 күн бұрын
Nobody is more devastated than me 😭 All my fav songs are from folklore and Evermore. I still love them ofc but lowkey disgusted that Matt is the muse but what ever, I'm just here for the music
@LindaDulcinea
@LindaDulcinea 23 күн бұрын
But actually, though.
@rachelgleason6261
@rachelgleason6261 23 күн бұрын
At least in my mind, that line means ret-conning old songs to be about him. No matter who or what they were about originally
@14NRossi
@14NRossi 23 күн бұрын
@@junainahrahman4156honestly, you have to commend him for being an interesting muse. And that there is something romantic about a pining and longing over a decade, even if it ended up ending so badly. At the end of the day though, the songs should really be what they mean to you regardless of muse.
@JorgeLuis-ej3su
@JorgeLuis-ej3su 22 күн бұрын
Yes... Ratty 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
@rosiebeed9239
@rosiebeed9239 23 күн бұрын
Its so impressive the way you quote taylor swift lyrics so smoothly, bilingual king
@evelynfonsecasiqueiros
@evelynfonsecasiqueiros 22 күн бұрын
I knoww do you imagine explaining all this to a normal person? HAHA
@bamagal7681
@bamagal7681 21 күн бұрын
Love the way you break this down and intertwine the details of the story! A masterpiece! I crown thee King Swiftologist ❤👏🏻🫶🏼
@lisarubin6117
@lisarubin6117 20 күн бұрын
Love this U reign with eloquent intelligence and foresight 🔆
@rachaelc4762
@rachaelc4762 19 күн бұрын
omg truly bilingual
@TheGrandOFF
@TheGrandOFF 23 күн бұрын
Question starts with “I remember” because in About You he constantly asks: “Do you think I have forgotten?”. What a great red herring!
@selkarmi
@selkarmi 23 күн бұрын
Omg
@Clara_taylorsversion
@Clara_taylorsversion 22 күн бұрын
Interesting
@carol0906
@carol0906 22 күн бұрын
I'm a big 1975 girlie and I also always understood that she was responding to “About you”
@Dani-vu7em
@Dani-vu7em 22 күн бұрын
👏 👏 👏 I only 99% believed question was about matty, but this comment sealed it!
@alannafino2493
@alannafino2493 22 күн бұрын
UMMMM YUP! I remember these two songs playing back and forth for me until it finally dawned on me
@katieh.8149
@katieh.8149 23 күн бұрын
matty was always the muse because she could mold him to any narrative she wanted because she didn’t really know him… and it’s genius. he was the tortured artist, mysterious, and a little problematic at times. and she was obsessed and I get it and once they really got to know eachother it ended cause he couldn’t handle it
@sassy6498
@sassy6498 22 күн бұрын
Yes, I have said this .She was in love with the fantasy she created about him " The Peter to her Wendy" not the real Matty. And I think he did the same .They couldn't never survive reality , but she was so unhappy that she created the fantasy in her secret garden of her head like in " I hate it here".
@ellielovely4129
@ellielovely4129 22 күн бұрын
A little problematic at times? Try a lot
@hayleysmith3113
@hayleysmith3113 21 күн бұрын
@@sassy6498I agree with everything about this
@DianeLake-sw3ym
@DianeLake-sw3ym 14 күн бұрын
He was the stereotypical Bad Boy. Many women seem to need to be with a bad boy at least once. For them it's a safe way of rebelling. Which is why I never fell for one. I was the rebel without a cause. I did not need to live my rebellion through a bad boy. But, Taylor has this public image of a good girl. Wholesome. Matty made her feel she could stick up her middle finger to the world and the media without being bad herself.
@valliyarnl
@valliyarnl 23 күн бұрын
I’m so glad I’m chronically online so that I can catch this within a minute of uploading
@yes_hello_hi
@yes_hello_hi 23 күн бұрын
lmao
@tragicsimmer
@tragicsimmer 23 күн бұрын
same 🥲
@kellygrundy1305
@kellygrundy1305 23 күн бұрын
That's so real
@not_iris.
@not_iris. 23 күн бұрын
REALLLL
@klmjtr
@klmjtr 23 күн бұрын
😂
@TheGrandOFF
@TheGrandOFF 23 күн бұрын
I think the play on maroon/rust with Ratty is so interesting. “The rust that grew between telephones”/“if rusting my sparkling summer was the goal”. Scarlet might be a reference to her reputation if she were to date him. A play on scarlet letter, forbidden love.
@rebekahlove4850
@rebekahlove4850 23 күн бұрын
A couple more “I had the shiniest wheels now they’re rusting” on This Is Me Trying and “salt air and the rust on your door” in August
@Violet2148
@Violet2148 23 күн бұрын
Maroon about Matty? Let me laugh. And thank god she is away from that loser. And hopefully away from the chief idiot soon.
@lilym2230
@lilym2230 22 күн бұрын
OMG YEA
@bonjourista
@bonjourista 22 күн бұрын
But is it? Idk it's kinda basic metaphor and she repeats her ideas. Idk but with this specific lyric Im just not cojnvinced 😅
@akcoady
@akcoady 21 күн бұрын
My favorite TS song, outside of "Treacherous," is about MH. OK now.
@willmcnally3388
@willmcnally3388 23 күн бұрын
The worst thing about all these theories is that almost all of them make complete sense
@littlebitaver
@littlebitaver 23 күн бұрын
You are literally the first person I've seen to point out that the lyric "I love you, it's ruining my life" is most likely something that Matty said to Taylor during that decade of trying to "woo" her - hence the refrain. This is why you're the Swiftologist 💕
@annamariesieberns9894
@annamariesieberns9894 23 күн бұрын
This is so genius that you figured this out!
@claudiabcarvalho
@claudiabcarvalho 22 күн бұрын
In the end, it turned out he ruined her life for some time. There's this double meaning: referencing his words to say that he ruined her.
@jeanieboyd2485
@jeanieboyd2485 22 күн бұрын
Yup!
@jessicaklyn1835
@jessicaklyn1835 22 күн бұрын
This literally made my mother drop! I'm like giiirrrrlll can hold a fucking grudge 😮😂
@dogloversmith7139
@dogloversmith7139 18 күн бұрын
hahaha
@aurynm1887
@aurynm1887 21 күн бұрын
“Some guy said my aura’s moonstone just cause he was high” 👀
@ultravioletpisces3666
@ultravioletpisces3666 20 күн бұрын
Oh
@amyelr
@amyelr 23 күн бұрын
Interesting coincidence (?) that maroon can also mean to strand / leave isolated. "How dare you think it's romantic, leaving me safe and stranded".
@anomardolphin
@anomardolphin 23 күн бұрын
never a coincidence with this big brained girl's writing
@musicjunkie31karma
@musicjunkie31karma 20 күн бұрын
THIS!!!!
@Zach27727
@Zach27727 23 күн бұрын
Matty also referred to himself as a cowboy at the 2020 NME awards in his speech
@dalalali1628
@dalalali1628 23 күн бұрын
Omg with this video i think something clicked in my mind, i loved cowboy like me the ending of it was vague not that clear but the chemistry, the goal, the devastation was fully there.
@Zach27727
@Zach27727 23 күн бұрын
@@dalalali1628 yeah it makes sense to me now and it reminds me of ‘like I lost my twin’ in down bad, because of the connection they have as artists, songwriters and creatives
@chrismcmurry8508
@chrismcmurry8508 23 күн бұрын
@@Zach27727 I agree! Read his lyrics. They are two peas in a pod creatively. Both are hopeless romantics. But he's just too messed up to actually make it happen. Quite tragic.
@Cyn8201
@Cyn8201 23 күн бұрын
Taylor so drunk going up there to get her award. I believe something changed that night when they saw each other again. I mean they've been friends for years after they briefly dated.
@yoweemma
@yoweemma 23 күн бұрын
And cowboy like me has a similar melody to 'i can fix him' Cowboy like me is one of my top 3 songs, and it being connected to 'i can fix him' makes SO much sense.
@luisasemerak2519
@luisasemerak2519 23 күн бұрын
I would pay good money for a swiftologist taylor-matty chronological timeline playlist
@abruxademe
@abruxademe 23 күн бұрын
Search on spot for playlist called "Taylor and Matty affair - Swiftology references".
@theswiftologist
@theswiftologist 23 күн бұрын
oh it exists but im still tweaking it....
@hacheck6
@hacheck6 23 күн бұрын
So no 1989, but what about the vault tracks? I mean SLUT for sure since he was on an unreleased version?
@madal3nar
@madal3nar 22 күн бұрын
this video helped me put mine together but it's not in chronological order that's too hard for me😭
@hunniii2356
@hunniii2356 21 күн бұрын
@@hacheck6 it doesn't make sense bc everything in 1989 is about harry bc when she wrote the tracks she hadn't even met him, plus "everyone wants him, that was my crime" isn't about Matty, that's for damn sure
@Ms_Mori
@Ms_Mori 23 күн бұрын
I can't help but think about this "In from the snow, your touch brought forth an incandescent glow" going into this "I felt aglow like this, never before and never since"
@avlrealestatesource
@avlrealestatesource 22 күн бұрын
Ohh and “snow on the beach!”
@babyxblue
@babyxblue 18 күн бұрын
I know it shouldn't matter that much, but i feel absolutely pissed to know that some of my favorite songs have matty healy references on them 😭
@kaleydeweese7413
@kaleydeweese7413 11 күн бұрын
Matty is truly the manic pixie dream boy with which TS was in love with the idea of. Holy shit. This is 500 Days of Summer irl
@billyk8397
@billyk8397 23 күн бұрын
“Question…?” not being about Harry but about Matty makes me so mad but only because it works way to well
@_xoxo_gossipgirl_
@_xoxo_gossipgirl_ 23 күн бұрын
But its start with "i remember" and it references to out of the woods so how can it be about matty healy?
@neeliknowsnothing
@neeliknowsnothing 23 күн бұрын
@@_xoxo_gossipgirl_every bait and switch was a work of art ✨
@PandoraStolen
@PandoraStolen 23 күн бұрын
​@@_xoxo_gossipgirl_ he explains that in the video
@KarolinaK00
@KarolinaK00 23 күн бұрын
​​@@_xoxo_gossipgirl_ on About You, a song he played after the infamous 'you know who you are I love you' he repeats 'do you think I have forgotten?' over and over. I think that's her reply. Both were written around the same period when they reconnected through Jack who produced both of their albums.
@alexandrite61
@alexandrite61 23 күн бұрын
Looking at it from the context of the muse being Matty, her sampling OOTW is probably more so a reference to them meeting during 1989 era, as opposed to it being about the same person as OOTW. If true, what a red herring that is lol
@xeme2774
@xeme2774 23 күн бұрын
The NoDaysOffOlogist is back and we are SEATED
@KarolinaK00
@KarolinaK00 23 күн бұрын
I'd also add Labyrinth to the Matty Healy of it all. I think the 'oh no I'm falling in love again' is very much about them reconnecting while her relationship with Joe was breaking down. Also 'back into the hedge maze' lyric on Guilty as Sin links that song back to Labyrinth.
@adriananabananana
@adriananabananana 23 күн бұрын
I had this same thought!! 😊
@denizece3672
@denizece3672 23 күн бұрын
I‘ve been told I was delulu for saying that Labyrinth was far more significant than we thought 😄
@KarolinaK00
@KarolinaK00 23 күн бұрын
@@denizece3672 I don't know if I would have come to this realisation without ttpd so I can understand people not seeing the vision initially 😅
@auddiemtr1083
@auddiemtr1083 23 күн бұрын
I thought the same as well
@denizece3672
@denizece3672 23 күн бұрын
@@KarolinaK00 No, totally, because I didn‘t think of any more than her and Joe being on and off, initially
@caitlinboyle154
@caitlinboyle154 22 күн бұрын
‘Is the effing acoustic record about us’ TOOK ME OUTTT
@Fea54
@Fea54 23 күн бұрын
1989 - 1975 = 14. So it was never gonna work.
@sageslittlechannel
@sageslittlechannel 23 күн бұрын
…..a fortnight exactly
@akashvalsan6609
@akashvalsan6609 23 күн бұрын
😮😮😮​@@sageslittlechannel
@lifeiscruisey1912
@lifeiscruisey1912 23 күн бұрын
13+the 1
@MarcDoesNotKnow
@MarcDoesNotKnow 23 күн бұрын
@@lifeiscruisey1912oh I'm eating this up
@Desiree-Laine
@Desiree-Laine 23 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@heabooktubes
@heabooktubes 23 күн бұрын
I absolutely love how you’re able to hate on the men without blaming Taylor for liking them. ♥️♥️♥️
@lifeiscruisey1912
@lifeiscruisey1912 23 күн бұрын
But shouldn't she be blamed for wanting to cheat on Joe with Matty for nearly 3 years. For all we know she did cheat and then ditched Joe because she wanted to make it official with Matty
@evelynwright329
@evelynwright329 23 күн бұрын
​@@lifeiscruisey1912I mean this so seriously, someone's relationships do not equal the relationship you have with them. don't try and paint someone as a villain when... she's just being honest. and the reason fantasizing is so taboo is because everyone else lies. 90% of people will have a fantasy in a relationship lol. guilty as sin doesn't imply she slept with Matty in a relationship.
@lifeiscruisey1912
@lifeiscruisey1912 23 күн бұрын
@@evelynwright329 cheating doesn't mean hooking up. If your boyfriend was texting some other girl and writing love song for her all nice and coded that's cheating too. Face the truth. She cheated and things broke down. She's human.
@dazzlingburritoes5693
@dazzlingburritoes5693 23 күн бұрын
Cheating is her repeated behavior. We've been seeing that since she was dating Calvin Harris. But also celebrities drama, non of our business. We're here for the songs.
@Marina-nn4md
@Marina-nn4md 23 күн бұрын
@@lifeiscruisey1912 yup. love is messy like this. we would all like to have ended everthing and had a clean break up with one person before ever developing feelings for someone else, but the truth is: it rarely happens like that. when you reach your thirties, if you've dated around enough, that overlap it's bound to have happened a couple of times at least
@felipepaze
@felipepaze 23 күн бұрын
i love when you say a taylor lyric mid sentence to complete your thought because thats EXACTLY how my brain works
@emperaliz
@emperaliz 23 күн бұрын
Now THIS is Pulitzer winning journalism, sir. Thank you for the derangement and the light you shone down on all of this mess. As always top quality work from the Swiftologist
@Mrs.Currie
@Mrs.Currie 21 күн бұрын
Haha, derangement as pulitzer caliber journalism.
@aquajewlz1
@aquajewlz1 23 күн бұрын
“She joined tumblr in 2014 and got hooked on the rat. Many such cases” 💀
@tangozmangoo
@tangozmangoo 22 күн бұрын
Like Halsey. Her poems about Matty Healy are truly my Roman Empire.
@sunshineyrainbows13
@sunshineyrainbows13 22 күн бұрын
that was me at age 15 lol. poor taylor.
21 күн бұрын
It happened to the best of us 😂
@minuishaq631
@minuishaq631 18 күн бұрын
​@@tangozmangooI really don't get it. I like Halsey and Taylor they both seem intelligent & decent people. What did they see in him?
@lexi7749
@lexi7749 Күн бұрын
@@minuishaq631based on the content I’ve seen of him, he strikes me as a genuine narcissist. However, I think they may have been drawn to his strong sense of self, confidence, he seems like he knows how to be funny and charming. Maybe he knew exactly what to say them?
@kianna270
@kianna270 23 күн бұрын
“I support women’s right and women’s wrongs” 😂
@dikshasharma3031
@dikshasharma3031 23 күн бұрын
It was clear that there were two muses since folklore. I always assumed it to be Harry and the songs just started connecting. I was devastated or more like my world was turned upside down when I realised those songs were about Healy!
@clashfan2875
@clashfan2875 23 күн бұрын
The videos for Cardigan and Falling Again so weirdly paralleled each other for example. I can see how you could assume Harry.
@anomardolphin
@anomardolphin 23 күн бұрын
@@clashfan2875 I just won't accept Cardigan isn't about Harry. But my overall position is that almost no song is inspired by one person and that all the writers, whomever they be (and this includes Harry), write lines are inspired by more than one relationship. This gets done unconsciously at first and then tends to stick even if the writer see what s/he has slipped into the work. Hence, do not expect any analysis to be on target for every line or other clue in the song. As far as the Cardigan MV goes, the paper airplane which appears as Taylor goes into the piano bench in the video cannot be ignored. All you guys have seen that paper airplane, right?
@troubleskipper4084
@troubleskipper4084 22 күн бұрын
@@anomardolphinI still think Cardigan and question…? Is about Harry no one can change that like Harry also has songs that are parallel to these maybe both of them inspired it but it’s Harry for me tho
@Karensmusic292
@Karensmusic292 21 күн бұрын
@@anomardolphin I've never seen a paper airplane in that video. After several watches, I saw her dress fall into a V shape under the bench as she's getting into the bench - is that what people see as the paper airplane? It's a coincidence that her dress falls like that. It's not a paper airplane. That's a HUGE reach and very wishful thinking.
@februaryone5923
@februaryone5923 20 күн бұрын
@@anomardolphin I agree the plane is in the video and we were supposed to see it or it would have been changed/ fixed/removed because the producers would also have seen it too when they watched it before it was released. It is there because we are supposed to associate it with Harry. Taylor must find it so funny when the facts are twisted to fit what/who we like or in this case go blind or hallucinate for them to say the plane isn't there or it is her dress. Don't let others sway you because they are fickle. Songs that were loooong established to be about Harry can't just change overnight because Matty was seen with Taylor for a few weeks. Also some content creators will write/say anything for monitization of videos.
@ClassProjects09
@ClassProjects09 23 күн бұрын
We're just going to skip over the fact that Nashville was one of the first rain shows, he was in attendance, and the Black Dog references her "rain soaked body".
@Cvinkavich1
@Cvinkavich1 21 күн бұрын
Reading the lyrics again this is definitely a Matty song. I can’t believe the ologist didn’t reference it. ‘You said I needed a brave man Then proceeded to play him Until I believed it too And it kills me I just don't understand’
@sofiarays
@sofiarays 15 күн бұрын
The Black Dog is 100% about Matty. There is a bar in Cork, Ireland called the Black Dog, where the 1973 performed on June 13 last year, a week after news of TS & MH's breakup.
@meadhbhloml
@meadhbhloml 23 күн бұрын
How about in willow "wait for the signal and I'll meet you after dark" "begging for you to take my hand, wreck my plans" also "head on the pillow I could feel you sneaking in" could tie into guitly as sin
@musicandmania
@musicandmania 23 күн бұрын
I'm new here but the other day I was intently listening to willow and it struck me that it sounded suspiciously different now that we have different contexts. to be fair now that this plot development has been uncovered to a great extent and this is where we are, I find myself listening to things in a whole different way because of our current "revelation as a collective that was presented to us very late"
@meadhbhloml
@meadhbhloml 23 күн бұрын
@@musicandmania Same :)
@nubesvaporosas7191
@nubesvaporosas7191 23 күн бұрын
He really was one price she'd cheat to win
@imawakemymindisalive13
@imawakemymindisalive13 23 күн бұрын
omg i never heard “head on the pillow i could feel you sneaking in” as being very sexual before but now 💀💀💀
@musicandmania
@musicandmania 23 күн бұрын
@@imawakemymindisalive13 well, not even in the sex sex kind of way but.. 17 year olds don't drink wine and intertwine in sheets like a romcom, marked me like a bloodstain.. living for the hope of it all, cancel all my plans just in case you called. That's like. Deeper than 17 and absolutely Rat coded (this is a reference that goes with my previous comment about how Betty august and cardigan are not as fictional as she tried to imply but are simply, most unfortunately, now more understandable. Willow is in the same category.
@manouka
@manouka 10 күн бұрын
Going back and analyzing her lyrics and stories and the way they intertwine is like literature class on drugs and one of my favourite things to do ever
@lins_z2
@lins_z2 23 күн бұрын
Also it’s so interesting how the more overt Matty songs have this old western /Wild West sound to it. In my first listen to TTPD, I immediately connected the songs to cowboy like me. Also congrats for moving pass your denial of the 1 being about ratty lmao!
@happycommuter3523
@happycommuter3523 23 күн бұрын
Yeah, “I can fix him” gives serious Old West vibes. There’s definitely a connection.
@Cyn8201
@Cyn8201 23 күн бұрын
Matty grew up in northern England which is similar to the American south with western/country influences. His dad influenced a lot his country inspired songs in his own catalog.
@tangozmangoo
@tangozmangoo 22 күн бұрын
I mean if she was The 1975 girly in 2014 the whole theme it’s so clearly „Robbers” coded.
@TessaTruehart
@TessaTruehart 17 күн бұрын
The reason for the Wild West themes is bc Matty’s greatest song is called Robbers. It’s based on the idea of Bonnie & Clyde.
@Lurrrrrrrrr
@Lurrrrrrrrr 23 күн бұрын
Love how you were denying and cringing at Madeline for saying the 1 and illicit affairs were about ratty healy, but now you’re in 100% agreement.
@causeimnachoprincess
@causeimnachoprincess 23 күн бұрын
Listening to TTPD and then revisiting her older works has been the most fun I've had in ages because Taylor is usually so careful to keep her mess private & this was one time she just let go
@jjl3530
@jjl3530 23 күн бұрын
Listen, when I say you saved my Sunday afternoon… that‘s an understatement. Thank the lord for the No-Days-off-ologist
@jjl3530
@jjl3530 23 күн бұрын
@swiftologist ilysm
@JR47625
@JR47625 23 күн бұрын
The greatest thing to come out of this was the "He lets her bejeweled" meme.
@lesliehale8595
@lesliehale8595 23 күн бұрын
The "Why She Disappeared" poem from the reputation magazine also mentions con men and get love quick schemes which I find quite compelling...
@sarahfosch5893
@sarahfosch5893 18 күн бұрын
oh the rep vault bout to be crazzzyyyyy
@fletcher447
@fletcher447 23 күн бұрын
I attended The 1975 show the night they played in Perth (the night of matty's birthday), and I remember hearing his speech and getting this sinking feeling it was about Taylor 😭
@sarahfosch5893
@sarahfosch5893 18 күн бұрын
sorry but they could never make me hate him 😭😭😭
@trinabaker3186
@trinabaker3186 23 күн бұрын
Wow ! No wonder you love Taylor so much. You are such a wonderful poet yourself. ... like the Rosetta Stone that keeps on revealing to us. I am as obssessed listening to your art as much as Taylor's art. You have a way with words.
@theswiftologist
@theswiftologist 23 күн бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@PandoraStolen
@PandoraStolen 23 күн бұрын
He says things in his videos all the time and I'm like that could be a song lyric but I think it's because he's a writer.
@trinabaker3186
@trinabaker3186 22 күн бұрын
​@@PandoraStolen ... yes ... a very good writer !
@jeanieboyd2485
@jeanieboyd2485 22 күн бұрын
So true!
@alisonshaw7563
@alisonshaw7563 22 күн бұрын
Agreed ❤
@thefirstrenegade
@thefirstrenegade 23 күн бұрын
I was sooo confused by the "I remember" sample until I listened to About You by the 1975. Matty keeps repeating "do you think I have forgotten?" over and over again. There is also a verse where a female voice sings "there was something 'bout you that now I can't remember". I think that "I remember" might have been a message to Matty but it of course also served as a red herring since Taylor is a mastermind. She probably didn't want for us to figure out the Matty connection at that point of time.
@hkandm4s23
@hkandm4s23 23 күн бұрын
Just want to add that while i may be in the minority, i think fortnight is actually quite more autobiographical than everyone seems to think. It's a much more chronological album that everyone seems to give it credit for. She's reminiscing about the fortnight her and Matty spent together, likely described in maroon, probably shortly after they were reintroduced. Talking about being good neighbors, each of them having partners, but being in love with him. While dramatized, i think it's setting up the situation perfectly.... then towards the end of the song, she finally admits her partner is cheating she's miserable and she's ready to "kill" him. Always dreaming of the fortnight they had together, they finally agree on a plan to pursue the relationship once the breakup is announced and she goes to Florida. Just my thoughts❤
@TheGrandOFF
@TheGrandOFF 23 күн бұрын
I also thought that she wanted to set the scene here. It’s like preface to a good novel.
@jessicam3707
@jessicam3707 23 күн бұрын
Yess and he is her “getaway car” for the relationship, hence “buy the car you want”. Florida in general is a metaphor for the chaos of Matty (“work your life away just to pay for a timeshare down in Destin” timeshare is usually 1-2 weeks so a fortnight, Destin=destiny as mentioned in BDILH. She worked her whole life for a fortnight with her destiny). But then “it won’t start up til I touch you” with the hand with the ring in the video - she didn’t actually get her happy getaway until Travis.
@claudiabcarvalho
@claudiabcarvalho 22 күн бұрын
It was always clear to me that the whole song was an allegory: the husband is Joe and the neighbor is Matty. She had to act like they were just acquaintances every time they ran into each other, because she was still committed to Joe. Then she's like "No, Joe is cheating on me, I need to leave him", and she went running to Matty. The "killing" is also metaphorical, it means ending things with someone. When Florence says "your cheating husband disappeared", it's a reference to how Joe went back to being insignificant once he was no longer with her.
@jamiekay3650
@jamiekay3650 22 күн бұрын
@@claudiabcarvalhoI also think the “backyard” and being neighbors is Electric Lady…
@paulaooook
@paulaooook 22 күн бұрын
It is chronological! 100%.
@ReeCrowsFray
@ReeCrowsFray 23 күн бұрын
From experience (have very much been baited and chased like this. It’s intoxicating), when you have this dreamy, aloof, and fantastical “love” or wonder for another person romantically, you often find the dream is far more beautiful. Once you are able to final get that full moment of connection with a person you long for like this, it almost always burns out faster than than a cigarette. The story and longing period is forever ingrained and magical, but the true moment is just…not it. Not sure if this is the case, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it was for Matty and/or Taylor. I very much see him as the one who loves thinking of love more than actually maintaining it long term.
@saturnrising8515
@saturnrising8515 23 күн бұрын
I think she was very infatuated with the fact that someone as "hard to impress" as matty was lovebombing her, it made her feel special and not like the other girls lol
@ayomidedareabel5525
@ayomidedareabel5525 23 күн бұрын
"You said normal girls were boring but you were gone by the morning" lol. The only reason she fell his lovebombing is because of her pick me tendencies the need for escape from boredom with joe
@MarcDoesNotKnow
@MarcDoesNotKnow 23 күн бұрын
it's also probably bc 6 long and slow years of boredom and wanting to escape meant that she'd eat up anything anyone offered after actually leaving
@ayomidedareabel5525
@ayomidedareabel5525 23 күн бұрын
@@MarcDoesNotKnow exactly. She was with someone who never praised and barely spoke about her in public. Someone like matty openly praising her for being a good artist must tugged her heart strings
@maryem9225
@maryem9225 23 күн бұрын
YUP. Taylor seems to feel perpetually not enough and looks for that reassurance in her relationships. We can see it with John Mayer (a big shot in the music world), Jake Gyllynhall (big shot in acting), Conner Kennedy (a literal kennedy), Joe Alwyn and his posh british theater thing, and then with Matty. And it’s crazy cause like she’s Taylor Swift she does not need some man to confirm that she’s smart and intillectual and good enough.
@ayomidedareabel5525
@ayomidedareabel5525 23 күн бұрын
@@maryem9225 I mean when you look at her history of being bullied in school and even till now people still undermine her talent you can kinda understand why she seeks that validation. Although I have noticed lately that she's developing an idgaf attitude. Which is good
@emmar9190
@emmar9190 23 күн бұрын
This might be unhinged of me but I also see Matty in The Lakes and Willow. Like in Willow she’s begging him to take her hand and wreck her plans (presumably with Joe) and then she can finally say “that’s my man”, which then leads to I can fix him “when I tell ‘em he’s my man”👀
@maria_m326
@maria_m326 23 күн бұрын
Yesss, take me to the lakes where all the poets go to die
@kmax594
@kmax594 23 күн бұрын
And she is not going without her muse.
@vee.13
@vee.13 22 күн бұрын
"I'm setting off, but not without my muse" ...I think I'm gonna throw up..🥲
21 күн бұрын
As someone whose two favorite artists have been the 1975 and Taylor Swift for almost a decade, I just wanna applaud your work on this video!!! You did such a great job and I wish every Swiftie would watch this cause I’m tired of having to explain the lore 😂😂
@theswiftologist
@theswiftologist 21 күн бұрын
Tysm!!!
@sarahfosch5893
@sarahfosch5893 18 күн бұрын
so trueeeee swifties NEED to listen to all i need to hear and about you it’s just crazzyyy they could never make me hate matty healy, this man and his band saved me from so many depression episodes i love them😭😭
@KelLauren
@KelLauren 22 күн бұрын
zach this video is BELLISSIMOOOOO GORGINAAAAAA 5 STAR JOURNALISM. no one does it like you, might be your best one yet.
@lizsoranno4636
@lizsoranno4636 21 күн бұрын
It really is so good. Thorough. Informational. Poetic. Hilarious. I think he really enjoyed making this one.
@samagyashaw2723
@samagyashaw2723 23 күн бұрын
The script of this video is insane 🔥🔥
@theswiftologist
@theswiftologist 23 күн бұрын
thanks for noticing!!
@digyashaw
@digyashaw 21 күн бұрын
❤❤
@aestheticalrose4553
@aestheticalrose4553 23 күн бұрын
Whenever I see a Swiftologist video that's almost an hour long, I cry with joy.
@KelseasComments
@KelseasComments 23 күн бұрын
Maroon is absolutely about Matty as well. That night they stayed up till 4... her waking up with his memory over her.. etc.
@LeVoyagedAudrey
@LeVoyagedAudrey 23 күн бұрын
On my show she didn't perform a TTPD song on the surprise songs set, instead she did Hey Stephen and... Maroon!!!! (And that was the moment I knew)
@shilohgoes5544
@shilohgoes5544 22 күн бұрын
I think maroon is imagining the whole relationship playing out even before it begins, in the same way that Wildest Dreams is.
@claudiabcarvalho
@claudiabcarvalho 22 күн бұрын
​@@shilohgoes5544 Wildest Dreams is about Alexander Skarsgard.
@hunniii2356
@hunniii2356 21 күн бұрын
@@claudiabcarvalho wildest dreams is about harry
@hunniii2356
@hunniii2356 21 күн бұрын
the night they stayed up till fouur was on jan when she was a guest a their show and that was after midnights came out so she's def referencing something else
@MarcDoesNotKnow
@MarcDoesNotKnow 23 күн бұрын
the way I can't unhear the mattyness of snow on the beach now like omg ☹️☹️ great insightful video as always
@jenniferpeters8981
@jenniferpeters8981 4 күн бұрын
Weird, but fu&%$ing beautiful!?
@francescayuzon1255
@francescayuzon1255 23 күн бұрын
I was just finding something i want to watch while painting, instantly left movie streaming platforms to watch thee swiftologist!
@samanthalang2211
@samanthalang2211 23 күн бұрын
You really laid your life down for us with this one
@hkandm4s23
@hkandm4s23 23 күн бұрын
So glad people are finally understanding the lyrics of Chloe & co, and the fact that it literally sheds light on the entire relationship and gives the missing chronology alluded to throughout the album. So many people misunderstood the song, completely missing the word 'decade' or thinking it was about a different person. I listened to the album initially without knowing anything about Matty Healy except that they dated but after that song i was like oooohhhhh..... this person must have been an old flame never pursued that she watched that descend into addiction. No wonder it seemed so promising and gave her the push to get out of her miserable long term thing. What an ass for lovebombing her and lying about how much he changed. I thought all this before i knew who he was, and watched as everyone who actually followed celebrity stuff was totally confused or in denial. i was like.... did we listen to the same album?
@JennSkywalker.
@JennSkywalker. 23 күн бұрын
I just finished this break down. Now I’m off to make myself Sunday breakfast & re- listen to folklore, evermore, midnights & TPD super intently because I can’t unsee everything you just laid out here for us Zach.
@aanaperdigao
@aanaperdigao 23 күн бұрын
Same here 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@aanaperdigao
@aanaperdigao 23 күн бұрын
I don't wanna miss any song.
@brighid9527
@brighid9527 6 күн бұрын
I am going to be rewatching this video and absorbing the lore for months to come. This is beautiful. Its educational and poetic. Thank you for this masterpiece.
@NewFish07
@NewFish07 22 күн бұрын
love the way you just casually started talking in lyrics also thanks for such a thorough breakdown :)
@theswiftologist
@theswiftologist 22 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@melaniersos
@melaniersos 23 күн бұрын
This is such an important historical record. To be referenced for years to come! This felt like an offering to our collective brains who have been trying to hold onto pieces of the puzzle and now we get to see them assembled. As for songs- the Peter/ Cardigan links.
@veruhruba2618
@veruhruba2618 23 күн бұрын
Also Snow on the beach - your eyes are flying saucers from another planet - Down Bad?! omg
@meghansullivan6812
@meghansullivan6812 23 күн бұрын
OHHH
@makaylat7616
@makaylat7616 23 күн бұрын
He mentioned this directly at approx 42:30
@veruhruba2618
@veruhruba2618 22 күн бұрын
@@makaylat7616 Oh, I missed that, thanx :) I was so proud of myself that I came up with that on my own xD
@teresaspedaliere6114
@teresaspedaliere6114 23 күн бұрын
I think this relationship is just the perfect example that if you build someone up to be something in your head, you are just gonna be disappointed. but I will say Matty did give Taylor a reason to do that. And it is crazy that this is kinda his Mo, like Halsey and FKA twigs both have supposedly written lyrics that say he very much love bombed and then changed his mind.
@teresaspedaliere6114
@teresaspedaliere6114 23 күн бұрын
@@greentearainTaylor or Matty?😂
@jubilee4
@jubilee4 23 күн бұрын
Imo both 😅 ​@@teresaspedaliere6114
@ayomidedareabel5525
@ayomidedareabel5525 22 күн бұрын
@@teresaspedaliere6114 matty lol. Taylor is an anxious attached girlie
@wearesurvivorsx
@wearesurvivorsx 22 күн бұрын
@@greentearain do you mean avoidant attachment? because avoidant personality disorder is something different
@greentearain
@greentearain 22 күн бұрын
@@wearesurvivorsx oh probably
@guineverer23
@guineverer23 23 күн бұрын
Ok the Cowboy Like Me connection is brilliant. Forever is the sweetest con --> A conman sells a fool a get love quick scheme. Mind blowing analysis just for that, but there is so much more here to ponder. I will have to re-watch this video to get these details into my brain because I think you are spot on here with these parallels. I have also wondered why she would have been so hung up on Harry Styles years later and the answer, lol, is she wasn’t. ok, going to wonder forever, in what crowded room did Matty kiss Taylor?
@jessierehwald3809
@jessierehwald3809 22 күн бұрын
THANK YOU for making this video. i’ve been waiting for it lmao. another hint i noticed (which might be sooo far fetched) is that “the 1” could have been titled “the one”, but she didn’t do that, and to me it seems like a reference to “the 1(975)”. it’s out there but mentally i’m telling myself it was on purpose lol.
@sarasweet3578
@sarasweet3578 23 күн бұрын
I’m so glad I’m not one of those crybabies who feel certain songs are “ruined” because they’re about matty. I loved the mess and chaos of the relationship and feel he is an interesting muse. Doesn’t mean I like HIM- but I like the ART
@pde8444
@pde8444 14 күн бұрын
I like connecting the songs to the real people because I can feel the emotion and feel the heart break and pain
@kellymcguire4524
@kellymcguire4524 23 күн бұрын
Wow, this makes the anthology so much more interesting!
@delobster7711
@delobster7711 23 күн бұрын
I know how difficult this was to make Zach but I honestly appreciate it. Because if I'm gonna have to learn about this tragic fabric of their dreaming I'd rather hear it with your snarky and wonderful commentary. I am as you say seated. And grateful.❤
@tillie_brn
@tillie_brn 17 күн бұрын
The fact that you referenced "flying saucers from another planet" but didn't make the connection to the alien abduction imagery in Down Bad...
@noahffence
@noahffence 23 күн бұрын
I have been wanting this timeline explained for so long, THANK YOU
@rollinginthedeep6900
@rollinginthedeep6900 23 күн бұрын
This is such a top tier swiftologist video!!! So thorough and vivid in the way you're able to describe Taylor, her environment, and her mindset. You're always adding to my ability to appreciate my favorite artist and I love your content so much for that 🫶❤️
@fedelede2
@fedelede2 19 күн бұрын
The parallel between “Karma is the guy on the screen coming straight home to me” from Karma with “I need to get back, I've gotta see the girl on the screen” from If You’re Too Shy (Let Me Know) has always stood out to me
@LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName
@LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName 17 күн бұрын
Nice catch!
@elizabethreed3317
@elizabethreed3317 11 күн бұрын
I hate that taylor often feels intellectually inferior to her partners
@jonasreich3607
@jonasreich3607 23 күн бұрын
Fastest I've clicked in my life. Thanks for starting off the week right, Zach!!
@alex..cas09
@alex..cas09 23 күн бұрын
ur getting crazy close to 100k! sad i can't gatekeep anymore but happy for u
@AylalikeKaylawithouttheK
@AylalikeKaylawithouttheK 23 күн бұрын
THE PERFECT VIDEO I’ve been needing this breakdown of the timeline that’s so thorough! This video better blow up
@yasmingoodwin9680
@yasmingoodwin9680 23 күн бұрын
Started feeling ill as you went through the back catalogue WITHOUT MERCY. But at the same time it always baffled me that everyone was so convinced folkmore was so fictional. As if my love obsessed girlie was not writing from the heart!? Cowboy like me is so beautiful and unfortunately fits Matty too well. It's so rough for her that she had this pining for so long only for it to not work out but that's what makes her such an interesting artist because it's such a relatable experience. I gotta say though, TTPD is a treasure trove for those willing to go to these lengths!!! Thanks for dissecting this Zach!! 👏👏👏
@alexnicole6806
@alexnicole6806 23 күн бұрын
Oh, I’ve been waiting for this one ❤️ seated and READY
@Reputation.133
@Reputation.133 23 күн бұрын
Highlight of the week , can’t wait to watch it ❤❤❤
@nikshepsingh136
@nikshepsingh136 23 күн бұрын
Hey! This analysis was so thorough and meticulous. ily for creating such a well thought out video for us
@sajaaz-ym8bj
@sajaaz-ym8bj 23 күн бұрын
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONEEE. TURN IT UP🔥🔥🙏🙏
@keatonhayes6636
@keatonhayes6636 23 күн бұрын
I've been waiting for this oh my gosh 😭
@JRay.R
@JRay.R 23 күн бұрын
Simply brilliant, again…and as always. Take a bow, you’re somehow the king of both comedy and reality and I always find you and your channel very refreshing. Also love that your videos are so often posted just minutes before I sit down to eat breakfast, lol perfect timing!
@helloheyo4ever
@helloheyo4ever 23 күн бұрын
Absolutely love this dissertation !!! All for this thank you!
@klaratichakova
@klaratichakova 22 күн бұрын
I was SO looking forward to this, and you delivered, as expected. Impecable reporting, as always. I think I'm gonna watch it again, because I still cannot believe some aspects of this affair. To quote the Queen herself, what a mess.
@requiemforwinter
@requiemforwinter 23 күн бұрын
Absolutely love love Love your breakdown on this. 👏👏👏
@happydude5517
@happydude5517 23 күн бұрын
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
@lovelover4408
@lovelover4408 23 күн бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one 💓
@lisareed1384
@lisareed1384 23 күн бұрын
i love a video essay from you on any pop culture topic. thank you for the food!
@isiii17
@isiii17 23 күн бұрын
i‘d love to see a playlist with all the songs you think are about him maybe even just the timeline in general 🙏🏼
@JennSkywalker.
@JennSkywalker. 23 күн бұрын
Yesss
@aanaperdigao
@aanaperdigao 23 күн бұрын
If a missed any song. Please let me know and I'll add
@Donna-C
@Donna-C 23 күн бұрын
Sooo many songs
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 22 күн бұрын
drop the link pls, anyone
@Jena29
@Jena29 23 күн бұрын
I ran as as soon as i saw the notification 😭✨
@happycommuter3523
@happycommuter3523 23 күн бұрын
I love this so much, and I think you nailed the timeline perfectly. The lyrical references make sense, too. Great work.
@finalmovieac
@finalmovieac 23 күн бұрын
I was waiting for you to do a timeline on this! Thanks for taking the time to put this together! I particularly LOVED your lyric analysis of songs through her discography in light of the Information Age! I watched a video from a KZbinr “Kara’s Bookshelf” (Decoding TTPD) which helped with the Healy/Swift interlude and that one coupled with yours are must see!
@haleyscloud
@haleyscloud 22 күн бұрын
Perfect takes!!! Great work Zach. I agree with basically everything
@ThatsSoAnne
@ThatsSoAnne 23 күн бұрын
I think this was my favorite video of yours so far 🥹🫶
@meghansullivan6812
@meghansullivan6812 23 күн бұрын
HOLD TF UP SHE ANNOUNCED THE JOE BREAKUP ON HIS MF BIRTHDAY?’?!?!?! That is literally evil omfg TAYLOR!!!!
@janeydanger
@janeydanger 19 күн бұрын
“So scarlet it was maroon” - the love was so forbidden it was abandoned. It was deeper than red.
@LKYme
@LKYme 11 күн бұрын
Great insight
@girlfindinggod
@girlfindinggod 18 күн бұрын
Wow. This is one of the best KZbin videos I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Thank you for your work 😭😭😭
@delylahdavies1
@delylahdavies1 23 күн бұрын
hey queen! the swiftologist has done it again. constantly raising the bar for us all, and doing it flawlessly! i’d say i’m surprised, but we know who you are. we’ve seen it up close and personal. you make us so proud, and we love you! ❤
@thedivinefemme5285
@thedivinefemme5285 23 күн бұрын
This is the video I've been hoping for since the wee hours of April 19th, and it did not disappoint!
@broccoli748
@broccoli748 22 күн бұрын
I have been waiting for this, thank youuu!! I am obsessed
@AngryGoldenHore
@AngryGoldenHore 22 күн бұрын
I have been writing a dissertation length essay on this for the past two weeks. I am SO excited to see someone validating my insanity! I personally think it goes all the way back to Reputation and Lover too.
@bettyo8417
@bettyo8417 23 күн бұрын
Wow so much to think about as I re-listen to Folklore, Evermore, & Midnights! Great video, thanks so much!
@madelynsmith1766
@madelynsmith1766 18 күн бұрын
This ep is INCREDIBLE. super well done, I loved watching this
@hattie143
@hattie143 23 күн бұрын
Amazing video as always!! Thank you for feeding us a delectable Sunday treat!! ❤
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