"DEEP HENDERSON" Rare CHARLEY SKEETE'S ORCH on Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph Record 51775

[@loretsdad]

What great music. Thanks for posting and sharing.

[@digitalmetadata1]

The machine fidelity is very good trouble is the microphone placement. The microphone appears co-located with the camera. This means the microphone is picki g up the sound from the soundbox and not from the horn. As a result the record noise is emphasized.

[@JeanPaulCorro]

Amazing sound. I close my eyes and picture myself living in the 20's. I still find it amazing that we're able to listen to music performed almost a century ago. Thanks a lot for sharing!

[@tyroneepps3018]

I 👍 this 🎶 !

[@bedfordbanjoshop]

Thanks for sharing this gem. Some fine banjo playing by Joe Jones, according to Rust. I hadn't heard him before.

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@jednpep Thanks for the gracious comments. You know I was wondering about doing that sometime in one of my phonograph videos. With your encouragement I will consider doing that in the near future. Thanks again for your comments.

[@jednpep]

That was great!! Wish you would pan around the room so we could see your collection. These are such beautiful machines. I have had a couple in my life but resold them.

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@moonchild0204 Thanks so much for the nice comments!

[@frankolen4137]

Thank u

[@gferrick]

I wish someone could do a modern transfer from modern turntable of this.

[@gennettor8915]

Fortunately that has been done - and at the correct speed and without all the noise!

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@philt666 Thanks for taking the time to post the nice comments. Stop back again anytime.

[@gennettor8915]

This is played at an incorrect speed. The way to get the right speed is to pitch the music to the correct key. "Deep Henderson" is in the key of F, and other recordings of the tune (for instance by Coon-Sanders, King Oliver and Mike Markel) are all recorded in that key. This version was also recorded in the key of F, however, here it is reproduced in a high Eb (almost a full note flat), and therefore much too slow. To reproduce this side correcty it should be played 7.5 RPM faster then the speed it is in here. (A full note is 8.5 RPM).

[@Borriaudio]

Great Disc, Edison had acoustic recording perfected about as good as it got, you can hear the detail of all the instruments. I have a professional recorder from this period, may have recorded this record (could be used to make cylinder or disc records.)

[@JoeMarx1929]

Thanks for posting this side, but since you have the record would you PLEASE post the flip side "Tampeekoe" sometime? Thanks again!

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@famouswolfy Thanks!

[@davidlogansr8007]

I agree with your assessment of the speed! It sounds like human beings playing, any faster would be a caricature! Thank You and keep up the Great Work!

[@gennettor8915]

Not so. This is played far too slow. The way to get the right speed is to pitch the music to the correct key. "Deep Henderson" is in the key of F, and other recordings of the tune (for instance by Coon-Sanders, King Oliver and Mike Markel) are all recorded in that key. This version was also recorded in the key of F, however, here it is reproduced in a high Eb (almost a full note flat), and therefore much too slow. To reproduce this side correcty it should be played 7.5 RPM faster then the speed it is in here. (A full note is 8.5 RPM).

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@Symphonicprelude I play all of my records at a speed that sounds right to me and generally pay little attention to the suggested rpm. This one sounds natural and just like it should if a band was playing the selection live. I have played some of my Edison Diamond Discs (I have about 6,000 of them in my collection so I have listened to a few Edison Diamond Discs over the years) at 80rpm and the band and vocals are clearly too fast. Listen to Louisiana Five at 80rpm. Thanks for the comments.

[@gennettor8915]

I'm afraid that your idea of "right" here is quite off the mark. This is played far too slow. The way to get the right speed is to pitch the music to the correct key. "Deep Henderson" is in the key of F, and other recordings of the tune (for instance by Coon-Sanders, King Oliver and Mike Markel) are all recorded in that key. This version was also recorded in the key of F, however, here it is reproduced in a high Eb (almost a full note flat), and therefore much too slow. To reproduce this side correcty it should be played 7.5 RPM faster then the speed it is in here. (A full note is 8.5 RPM).

[@moonchild0204-1]

this is fantastic :) thanks :)

[@TheMedisonMan]

Great record! Thanks for making me dig mine out and play it. It's been a long time since I heard it. Can I ask what "take" you have on yours? Mine is "B".

[@jellywhipper]

The surface noise is not so prevalent if played with a rewired stereo cartridge. The lateral signs are cancelled and the vertical enhanced.

[@artshifrin3053]

YOU ARE UTTERLY CORRECT---PLUS A MORE APPROPRIATE STYLUS---AND---THE MECHANICAL NOISES AND ROOM ACOUSTICS ARE EASILY AVOIDABLE SONIC CORRUPTIONS

[@thendrjazz]

Although this was his only appearance on record, Charlie Skeets led fine bands mostly in NY for about a decade from the mid 1920s to the mid 1930s. He usually played taxi dance halls, like Rose Dance Land. These 10 cents a dance places where you paid for ech dnce were tough on the bands who had to grind out lots of tunes in a night as well as the dancers. These were tough and low prestige jobs usually held by youngsters just starting out or new people in town who haven't got a rep yet. Partly as a result, many fine musicians played in his band over time and left as their rep improved. In fact Skeets lost 2 whole bands to bigger names, Jelly Roll Morton in the 1920s and Claude Hopkins in the 1930s.

[@chicagosouthsidefilmfestiv5740]

Charley Skeete was my cousin. I'd love to buy this record if you still have it.

[@chkchrycla]

If that were true....you would be dead. ;)

[@Symphonicprelude]

Hi Great record, but I think your turntable is going too slow. Are yousure it's doing 80 RPM ?

[@gennettor8915]

You're right - this is played at an incorrect speed. The way to get the right speed is to pitch the music to the correct key. "Deep Henderson" is in the key of F, and other recordings of the tune (for instance by Coon-Sanders, King Oliver and Mike Markel) are all recorded in that key. This version was also recorded in the key of F, however, here it is reproduced in a high Eb (almost a full note flat), and therefore much too slow. To reproduce this side correcty it should be played 7.5 RPM faster then the speed it is in here. (A full note is 8.5 RPM).

[@BixBix81]

Hi! It was first today I saw Youe nice Edison. Mr. Symphonicprelude have a right. I have this same number in F-sharp(F-dur). Yours is almost in E-sharp(E-dur)It makes half a ton to slow. Some musician can ask why not in Eb-flat. In Eb will be very slowly. Any way, this is nice recording. You're lucky with 6000 Edison. I have 250, and I'm happy.Do You have some Seven Blue Babies in Your library? Best Regards Bixbix81

[@stevefish3124]

"Dur" is the German word for "Major" not "Sharp".

[@dymitrmarkiewicz876]

@@stevefish3124 Of course you are right. In my country, we use Dur and Moll. As a musician, when I play with international musicians I use Sharp and they know what I mean. Even so, your Pathefon or record player does not have the right pitch control. So what? I'm just trying to get the sound the way they did in 1920. Sorry about that - please don't kill me, I'm just a trombonist. Bixbix81

[@HarborGuy]

Edison hated Jazz - he recorded it to save the Company but his label didn't make it despite the great stuff he recorded like this one --