Deep Rock Galactic’s Most Hidden Area…

[@Volvary]

As an Unreal Engine developer myself having worked on games that required similar tricks, those elements outside of the map are 100% an additional level that can be toggled in quickly to allow for Cutscenes to play, and are likely not replicated. That way, those cutscenes/animations can never be interrupted by say, another player walking into the Forge or bringing barrels around you while you forge.

[@MusNothus]

Ah that's super interesting! It's nice to hear the explanation from a real developer who knows what they're talking about.

[@TlalocTemporal]

I think cutscenes interruptions are one of the best parts of multiplayer games, and I'm kinda sad that there's no barrel shenanigans. But why would there be a forge on a mission?

[@TheBloodrian]

​@@TlalocTemporalIt's single level with all these things so its either everything or nothing. Probably when you forge on Space Rig, there is the winning screen hall somewhere as well

[@GordonWeedman]

​@@TlalocTemporal My guess is to keep it in memory to speed up load times.

[@Jontohil2]

The reason there's a copy of you holding your primary weapon is for the screen it changes to after the mission end screen, the one where you see your points on the performance pass.

[@MusNothus]

Ah that makes perfect sense! It's all coming together for me now.

[@Iteration456-8_codename_goblin]

Bruh what is my Spy Professor doing in Deep Rock man

[@p_serdiuk]

Dwarf Psychology when lmao

[@TheColtones]

I think it’s mainly the character select screen for players joining an active mission

[@cykeok3525]

Yeah that makes sense. Note that when you complete a mission, the end scene (with victory poses and mission stats) plays immediately after. THEN the client does the loading transitioning back to the Space Rig. That means the victory pose/mission stats scene, and the performance pass point scene with your dwarf standing on the left, is actually part of the mission level (in one of the hidden separated "movie set" areas that this video talks about).. they're not on the Space Rig level, nor are they on a different intermediary level that would waste time with another loading transition.

[@Sylvain_Kain]

2:33 I'm pretty sure that's from the screen after the statics screen when you complete/fail a mission. You'll see a copy of yourself holding whatever weapon/item you left the mission with along with the season background.

[@MusNothus]

Ohhhhhh you're totally right, that must be it! And that explains why both areas load in.

[@MusNothus]

Oh I should point out, too, that at 3:44 even though the third person shots don't look like there's compressed granite there, that's just a quirk of the mod I used to get those shots (better spectator), but there is in fact compressed granite at the top of that shaft, which you can see in first person.

[@MusNothus]

One could probably summarize this video as me having my mind blown as I gradually piece together the most rudimentary concepts of level streaming...but for those of you out there who are also unfamiliar with level streaming, I hope it blows your minds too! And it's definitely a fun place to explore regardless, so it's worth a visit.

[@Real_RUBB3R]

It doesn't exactly blow my mind per se, but it always does interest me a bunch to know if and where certain things are located out of bounds in a game, and why exactly they are there in the first place. Learning that these are actual areas you can explore, and the fact they are there during missions, it is very interesting!

[@G0RSHK0V]

2:33 I think it's for the "pause" ui

[@WipZedKay]

The mission endscreen area makes sense for loading you into the cutscenes without a loading screen. You do also see the loadout screen if you join a mission in progress so probably a similar reason based on the previous theory. Don’t imagine anyone does a lot of forging while a swarm is coming though!

[@MusNothus]

Makes sense! I suppose the developers just made all 3 of those areas into a single "level" that they could load in for every cutscene, which probably simplifies the whole process rather than loading one level in for one thing and another for another. Interestingly, I've been trying pausing the game with Universal Unreal Unlocker (UUU) during different parts the end screen process, and the camera does just move around the area. It actually moves over to the forge at one point if you use UUU to hide the HUD, and then weirdly there's a version of you that's way way off in the distance standing on nothing. I'm going to have to keep messing around with this even more.

[@TlalocTemporal]

​@@MusNothus-- I hope you stumble upon whatever bug makes every UI background the Forge. It's very annoying.

[@imigratingbox]

The cosmetic screen is the class selection screen when joining

[@mikhailgsg120]

Amazing! I didn't even know that was up there!

[@ReapeeRon]

That's pretty crazy! I didn't know that area was in the game.

[@MusNothus]

It's so cool that you can actually go to it! Very surreal walking around up there.

[@Bence3]

Now you should go there during a deep dive Ron. 😅

[@jeanbon6807]

The standing idle dwarf is for pause menu.

[@MusNothus]

Ah you're probably right!

[@ajaxorion]

they are there to save load times, when the game ends your physical players body teleports to a spot just to stay in case you are being affected by a status effect, like frozen, that way it doesnt show up when the camera is taken to the end screen space, where a separate render of your character is spawned, that way if your team throws a grenade at you before the drop pod takes off when you end a mission, you wont be frozen or whatever during the end screen i think

[@MusNothus]

ah that makes sense, yeah

[@dogdog357]

I guess that explains why the camera can get stuck on the forge background after I'm forced out of a game, somehow

[@acquaintedfowl1767]

it would be super cool if they had that end of mission area have a proper reachable spot in the space rig, and used what they have now as a replica for easier processing

[@MusNothus]

that would be very cool

[@anxiouscatentertainment]

3:39 Driller: 💀

[@kepipek6598]

dirt

[@swaghettimemeballs4420]

sand

[@-VictorGames-]

I wonder if these entities exist somewhere in the distance of the space rig. Because the pedestal and forge area could only be useful there; outside missions. Does the rig count as a "map" and these holdover entities serve as sort of a default loaded anchor to any map generated maybe? Or the pedestal/forge could just be holdovers not worth the time to clean up and they copypasta'd some code into to something else and left them be.

[@zerorig]

i would guess it's easier to make a doppelganger do the missing ending animations for some reason and maybe keeping the real thing nearby makes sure everything like the cosmetics load properly.

[@MusNothus]

@-VictorGames It seems like this should exist in somewhere around the space rig, but I looked around and couldn't find it anywhere. I even went outside the skybox with the free cam and couldn't see it. But it still seems like it should exist somewhere in that area, because otherwise yeah the forge being part of this makes no sense. So if anyone finds it, let me know! Maybe it really is still hidden somewhere. Actually, I'll have to check if it's loaded inside the upper part of the space rig, because that part has no collision and could hide it...

[@MusNothus]

@-VictorGames Update: I tried looking for this area around the space rig again and then I realized that the reason I can't find it is that I can't toggle on let there be light in the space rig, because that mod only becomes usable in the caves. BUT, as I was looking for this area, I found something else weird. There is something called the "icon generator" which is a dwarf mannequin that is used to display the cosmetics in the season terminal when you hover over them. This dummy object appears super high up above the main space rig and is super tiny, and when you hover over items in the season terminal, it'll actually change what that mannequin is wearing. Presumably this exists for the same reason as the liminal space rig.

[@-VictorGames-]

@@MusNothus Neat find!

[@Real_RUBB3R]

I would figure these do have to exist somewhere outside the space rig, because of how they seamlessly load in and out when using the terminals in the space rig. Also, the pedestal is likely used for when you pause in-game and see your dwarf, and during the end screen where it shows Season XP

[@ThePixelPear]

You used to be able to find the end screen closer outside the map that odd small room, we found it by accident. Just digging about.

[@MusNothus]

Yeah it's interesting that in that video by Seels, the area is much closer to the map than it is now, so I guess the developers must've moved it

[@madrockon7357]

gold

[@poptre67]

nitra

[@Icewallowcome012]

Mushroom?

[@jeanbon6807]

Goosack

[@MusNothus]

Mushroom

[@dddmemaybe]

hrmgh! *fart noises*

[@gamergaming7007]

Why is there a overclock forging area? I mean, we can craft oc's only in spagerig, so there's no need for game to use that area on missions.

[@MusNothus]

My best guess is that they just wanted to have all these things load in en bloc rather than loading one in for one thing and another in for another thing

[@MrQuantumInc]

My question is why does the caves need a copy of the forge area? Does every level need a copy of these scenes?

[@MusNothus]

My best guess is that they just wanted to have all these things load in en bloc rather than loading one in for one thing and another in for another thing

[@xandier5951]

Did you try call molly or used supply drop on those area? :>

[@MusNothus]

Ohhhh no I didn't think of that but now I definitely will try it!

[@eliteguard225]

I eat rocks for breakfast.

[@ashen-one--x]

rock and stone!

[@MusNothus]

rock and stone!

[@D3lpDelight]

i know you could special powder therought the droppod in season 3

[@D3lpDelight]

oh yeah that 3 year old video, actually thanks couldnt find it

[@MusNothus]

@@D3lpDelight Yeah it's interesting this has been around/known for awhile, but it seems like the location is farther away from the map now

[@D3lpDelight]

@@MusNothus probably the result of actuall map being much bigger, vertically at least

[@presentrama]

i just realized his channel name is supposed to be Drilling In The Name Of Subscribe with subscribe being the button

[@ZarHakkar]

One KZbin layout change away from not working anymore

[@Scripzure]

that isn't it. its a reference to the song "Killing in the Name Of"

[@youngblood3647]

This feels Ai generated

[@MusNothus]

If you're referring to that area then yeah I totally agree. It's the kind of place that almost looks right, but not quite because there's stuff missing.

[@magnetic9089]

[@MusNothus]

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