Deep Snow Winter Off Road - Part 1 - Land Rover Defender vs Range Rover Classic vs Discovery 4

Part 1 - Deep snow, tire failure, recoveries and more snow off road action. The deepest snow we have had so far and it brings both fun and troubles for the Land Rover Drive team. Me (Simon), Erik and Ørjan go offroading with a Land Rover Defender 110, Range Rover Classic and a Discovery 4.
In part one you will get to see us trying to get up that first hill, and not without trubles. The snow is deep and the cars handles it in different ways. You will se winter tires vs Mud terrains and you will see which terrain response mode the LR4 should use when driving in deep snow.
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Land Rover Drive is a KZbin channel created and run by me, Simon Schybaj Mastermo. Here you will get to see Land Rover, Overland, Offroad, camping and garage videos. Winter overland, winter offroad, winter camping and winter preperations. There will be overlanding in Norway, offroading in off road areas, reviews on cars and gear, workshop and how to fix you car, welding and painting, On the channel you will see Land Rover Defender 90, Defender 110, Defender 130, new Defender, Land Rover Series 1, Series 2, Series 3, light weight, Land Rover Discovery 1, Discovery 2, Discovery 3, Discovery 4, Discovery 5, Range Rover, Range Rover Sport, Range Rover Classic, Land Rover Freelander, Freelander 2. Petrol and diesel, TD5, 200tdi, 300tdi, TD4, TDV6, SDV6, V8, V8 supercharged.
Team cars:
Simon Schybaj Mastermo
2000 Defender 110 - 2.5 TD5 - Center diff lock
Erik Iversen
1976 Range Rover Classic - 2 door - 3.5L V8 - Center diff lock
Ørjan Berg Nikolaisen
2010 Discovery 4 - SDV6 - Automatic Center diff lock - Traction control
Tires (same order):
Goodyear Ultragrip ice - Studded winter tires
Cooper STT pro - MT tires
Nokian Hakka - Winter tires
Land Rover Defender 110 vs Range Rover Classic vs Discovery 4
Center Diff lock vs Center Diff lock vs Terrain Response System
Winter studded tires vs Mud terrain tires vs winter tires (not studded)
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[@LandRoverDrive]

Which car would you bring to this DEEP SNOW PARTY? Any car, and why? :) I would bring my Defender again, just because I love it! 😀👍

[@mrcvry]

A Volvo TL6!

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@mrcvry 😀👍 Haven't seen that before, only the old bv206. That's awesome :)

[@silentfill1295]

Probably my Disco2 - it's all I got. And I Love it XD

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@silentfill1295 Good enough reason for me! :) Nothing better than setting off in the car you love to drive! 😀Standard or have you done any upgrades? We run standard with only minor upgrades like tires. 👍😀

[@mcfobossan]

FZJ 80 4.5 24V, because I have only that car and I would love to test it in that beautiful snow that you have there. Enjoyed it watching almost as you driving Greetings from Sarajevo

[@overnighter]

Snow White ❄️ Mate, I appreciate your efforts for showing the difference between standard and lower tire air pressures 👍

[@LandRoverDrive]

😁👍 Just fun being out there in the snow. Glad it could be a learning experience as well. 😊

[@thesheepman220]

Can’t beat old technology that old Range Rover is a snow plough great channel love it

[@LandRoverDrive]

The RRC is amazing, and it shows that new is not alwasy better. 😉👍 Thank you so much for you support! More will come and part 2 of this series is now out. Hot that notification bell on the channel so you don't miss out on future videos. 😉👍

[@jessecosway1375]

Great content guys.. only just found your channel.. Am thoroughly enjoying seeing the norther Europe winter again while still being locked down here in Australia. Hopefully we’ll be able to get out for some 4WDing soon.

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey and thanks man! Appreciate the feedback. 👍🙂 Winter is coming back here now so so we will see some snow again in a month or two. 😀 Is the a lock down all over or just in regions? We can go 4wheeling in Norway, as of now, and hopefully it won't change before the snow comes. Best, Simon

[@rawill1958]

I appreciate that you do your videos in English. Respect from the USA...

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey and thanks for that! Trying my best with the English commentary.. 😉 Hopefully it will only get better! What did you think about the video and the content? Any critics, good or bad! Thanks!! 👍😀

[@Vassilika1]

Did you ever think about learning another language? I speak swissgerman, german, french, english, some greek, some italian, and some dutch. Just asking.... ;-)

[@rawill1958]

Wow, you must be (are) really proud of yourself. I only speak English, German & Spanish; you're clearly better.

[@rawill1958]

I watch all your videos for adventure. I'm a Jeeper myself and don't want to criticize your methods. Just do your own thing and know that other off-roaders enjoy it.

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@Vassilika1 Hey, I hade some German in school but it's all forgotten now. Never used it, sadly. Would love to have learned some more languages but don't have the time. But since you know so many, you are more then welcome to translate the videos. :) They are open for you guys to translate! :) Thanks for watching! 👍😀

[@Trotlining]

Excellent work guys! This is pure gold in it's purest form .9999! The way this work of art came full circle at the end was a plethora of cinematic genius! The ups the downs... Just, an amazing piece! Keep up the excellent work and absolutely can not wait until the next adventure!

[@LandRoverDrive]

Wooow, thank you so much for such an amazing feedback! Made my day. 👍😀 Part 2 is out so check that out and let me know what you think. Will start working on part 3 tomorrow. 😉 Will try my best to keep up the quality and make it even better. 😀👍

[@silentfill1295]

Yeah guys. Now you've nailed it. This one was really a great pleasure To watch and have a Cup of Coffee :D and I really like your "humble kind of a nordic (?) attitude" when doing your things, and your respect for snow :) All that is just absolutely nice and cool :) 💛

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey and thank you so much for such kind words! I really do appreciate it! 😀👍Nice and cool, is the content I would like to create. Telling a story as we go out and not constant actions. It's enough of that on the web being created. 😀We like going out and we are all learners at some level and on different things. 😀 Having fun with friends is key. Thank you for watching and glad you liked it! 😉👍

[@scottasbell5837]

Well said Silent Fill. The lack of pretension and moments of just regular guys having fun and learning as they go is very refreshing.

[@LandRoverDrive]

👍😀

[@timb4655]

Awesome ! So fun to watch. So very very jealous 😊👌

[@LandRoverDrive]

Thanks man! Glad you like it and glad you are jealous, that means I'm doing a good job and creating good content! 👍😀 Thanks for the feedback!

[@tombrown879]

Great Video guys. fun to watch . Can't wait to see how you get Erik out on the next one.

[@LandRoverDrive]

Thank you so much! :) So glad you liked it! Really appriciate getting feedback after spending so much time on creating this video. 😉👍 So my "cliffhanger" worked, part 2 is going to be as great or even better. 😀 And if you have some critics just let me know. ;)

[@erikiversen4497]

Even I can't waint to see how part 2 will evolve! :)

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@erikiversen4497 Hehe, hopefully even better than part 1. :) Come visit and get a preview next week. 😉 If the snow keeps on coming we maybe need to go and check the conditions. :) Test your winch. 👍😀

[@erikiversen4497]

For sure! :)

[@Volvette1991]

You have a wonderful winter !!!

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hehe, lucky this year. And at the moment it snowing like crazy again.. 😀👍

[@-Ola-.]

One of the best so far! No boring sequenses, alot of cameras in use, alot of info as you go, love it! Might be good to focus a bit on volume level between clips while editing, to keep music/talk at same levels, had to adjust volume several times :) Not complaining at all, only ment as input for improvement!

[@LandRoverDrive]

Thanks man! Yeah i know, i tried adjust the levels but kind of difficult getting it perfect. Need to get the a proper mic setup soon as it's brings the overall production value down. :) Felt like it was a better flow in the video as you mention and found my self watching instead of editing several times. :) Thanks you so much for your real feedback, it really helps and i really appreciate it! Keep it coming! 😀👍

[@BigfootRCrcoverlanddave2646]

Great 👍🏻 video guys really enjoyed the way you put this together 🤓🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿real snow!,,,,,,,look at that Range Rover go is it aV8 have now subscribed just watching all three in one go keep the good work

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey and thank you so much! 😀 Yep, the RRC surpriced me up that first hill as you can hear in the video. Thanks for subscribing, more to come this weekend so hit that notificatin bell if you haven't yet.. The RRC gets tested out with chains on the rear. 😉

[@WizzardPrang]

Awesome stuff! I just hope you don't have to wait for the snow to melt before you can get Erik out! 😂 Also very interested to see Sand Mode being successful in deep snow. 👍🏻

[@LandRoverDrive]

Thank you so much! Let's let him sweat for a bit! :) No, in 12 days you will see if he gets out. 😉👍 Yeah, it's great to be out there learning. Took me some time in the D3 too get it right but now after 5 years I know that car and the terrain response software pretty well. If you noticed in the video, I didn't ask if the D4 was in snow, I just told him to put it in sand. 😆 We are all learners in some way and on different levels so this is a perfect way to get some hours of training in before setting of on longer trips. There is a summer video on the channel where you can see the D3 with and without traction control. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it! 👍😉

[@AndrewClelland]

Awesome fun!... I learned how to drive and off-road on soft sand many years ago in Oz, but now living in Sweden would have loved to try some deep snow like this before I sold my Defender here :(

[@LandRoverDrive]

Yep, awesome day out with the guys. Lot's of Defenders around and i have seen lot's of great trail videos from Sweden. :) Driving in the snow is so much fun and can't wait to release part 2 of this series on Sunday! Remember to Subscribe and hit that notification bell so you don't miss out. 👍😀

[@themanontheroad]

Enda en flott video - venter i spenning på episode 2 👍

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hei og takk! Så bra, da har jeg klart målet mitt for denne! :) Takk for at du ser på, setter stor pris på det! 😀👍 Bare å komme med kritikk eller ideer hvis du har! 😉👍

[@adamdisco426]

Good fun and enjoyable to watch Simon but after that effort I am going to call you Mr Plough! Nice to see the D4.

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hehe, felt like Mr Plough at times. Glad you liked it and thanks for watching! Just bring on the critics if you have some, good or bad! :) Helps me alot! Still need to sort the mic and better sound issue. 😀D4, was not sure it was going to make it since it is so heavy. But with sand mode it drove up quite nicely. 😀👍

[@adamdisco426]

Land Rover Drive we went out this morning. Nothing compared to your video but good fun all the same. Appreciated the time and effort that you put in to brings us all your adventures.

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@adamdisco426 😀👍 Thank you for watching it! 😉 Snow is always fun! Just be safe on the roads. Started snowing again here last night so hoping for more powder snow so we can filming again. 👍

[@pablomax3045]

Nice video. BTW, a little start fluid and a match will get that tire bead set right up. Works a treat. Loads of videos how to do it and it is super easy actually.

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey and thanks! 😀 I have seen a couple of videos with it done right and a couple done wrong. Have not deared to try yet. Saw a firecracker one aswell, looked a bit safer also. 😀 But with some practise we probably could do it too. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe and hit that notification bell if you haven't yet. 😉

[@pablomax3045]

@@LandRoverDrive It is scary only the first time. Assuming you don't use the entire can, it should be fine ;)

[@bushcraftwildspirit]

Great video guys 🍺🍺🍺

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey and thanks! 👍😀 Really appreciated!! 😉 Part 2 will be out next weekend so remember to subscribe and hit that notification bell so you don't miss out! 😀 Thanks for watching!

[@xapeton_photo]

Wow! pure snow powder! That's great! Thanks for english and subs! Simon you can speed up some moments there no car movements, and no speech =) For the more dynamic video=) Good luck and wait for new series =)

[@LandRoverDrive]

Great fun! And you are very welcome, trying our best! Thansk for the tip, if you have some time stamps to where you think I can cut let me know. :) Very helpfull, and I really do appreciat real feedback like this! Thank you so much!! 😉👍

[@ØrjanNikolaisen]

This was so much fun, can't wait for the next trip! Thanks for all the views and comments everyone! 😀

[@LandRoverDrive]

WOW... :) Hehe... 90 on the next one?

[@ØrjanNikolaisen]

If it's driveable by then :) Parts ordered today :D

[@LandRoverDrive]

:) Can't wait! Looking forward to get a 90 to compare the 110 and RRC against. It's going to be awesome. 👍😀

[@scottasbell5837]

This is outstanding, as we now have teaser Cliff Hangers! Will Simon be able to pull Erik to safety? Will the D4 be able to play in the deep snow? Will Erik buy everyone lunch for pulling him out of the ditch? These and other questions must be answered... Great video again!! Looking forward, as you can see, with great anticipation to the exciting conclusion of DEEP SNOW.

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hehe, glad it worked! 😀 Very happy about that part. 😉 Just wanted to add more, but asked about lenght before I showed it around and they all said around 20min long. I said, I can't cut it at 20min.. Showed them the preview and we agreed on 30min, hehe. 😀 Almost all your questions will be answered in the next part. 😀 So thankfull for you support and your appreciation for the content that im making with the guys. It gives me great joy to share it with you! Thanks again for watching!

[@erikiversen4497]

Totally agree Scott! Not many places to by lunsh up here though, but I'm cooking dinner on our next trip ;) Hope that does it Simon. :)

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@erikiversen4497 :) Chef Erik, hehe. I think we will come out pretty even when the day comes. 😉👍 But some pastries over a cup of coffee never hurts. 😀

[@haanjamiis]

Yea with disco4 sand mode in low is probably best for that hill. Snow mode is for road use. It kills power and spinning. Made this mistake myself 1st time.

[@LandRoverDrive]

😀👍 It sure made a lot of difference. 😀 I have been driving a D3 for 5 years now and as you say, I think all terrains respons owners discovers this at some point. 👍 Thanks for watching and leaving some experience in the comments. :) And subscribe and hit that notification bell if you haven't yet. 😉😀

[@stephaneg]

No wonder why old Rangy gets stuck. He always goes first... Not fair!

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hehe, Erik is young and not afraid, so he often get sent first. But he also has the best cars for it last winter. 😀 I still get amazed by how good it performs. 1976 is just a number, doesn't mean much when we get out there.

[@axemeister7460]

Looks fun! Do you consider the Mts or wintertires better for this deep snow? Not on road (where wintertires win) but in deep snow. :)

[@LandRoverDrive]

Great day off-roading. 😀Depends on the conditions and tire size but for this winters trips the MT's has been the best in cold deep snow. On the other winter video when it was around zero degrees the winter tires were the best. If you had MT's with studs I would think that would be the best option, but narrow MT's so they don't have to push the snow. Another option would be artic truck size tires so you can float on the snow, but that is not an option for us or regular cars. :) There are more winter videos on the channel so be sure to check them out so you can see for your self. :) Thanks for watching.

[@PLAYINGAROUND]

Higher gears and diff' lock, and avoid peak torque. Junk those tyres on the D4. Nice video though chaps.

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey and thanks! Glad you liked the video. :) And you are quite right with you three first points. We are mostly using second and third low in this video, both the Defender and the RRC. It's kind of what they can handle in terms of engine power. I stalled it on that first hill in third, because of too little torque at the low rpm's. All three have center diff locks, and me and Erik (Defender and RRC), are thinking about getting a rear diff lock. 😉 Will try and do second high next time to see if that is a good middle way. 🤔

[@LandRoverDrive]

And thanks for watching! :)

[@PLAYINGAROUND]

@@LandRoverDrive get going and try first or second high box with diff' lock if it's not overly steep. The gears overlap to some extent, between low box high gears and high box low gears. Anywho, enjoy yourselves and stay safe.

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@PLAYINGAROUND Thanks and we will! 👍😀 So much fun being out there in the snow! Cheers.

[@iditriza9708]

Hi guys. Really enjoyed the video. And I was going through the comments to find exactly what I needed. A discussion about the gears 😅. Would you mind elaborating a bit please? I have a Discovery 300tdi (1996). This weekend we went up in the mountains. First part, used tracks with snow and a bit of ice. Then we started to hit deep snow. The bed was rock and dirt and the snow was 30-40 cm, in some parts pretty frozen. We were 5 cars and there was a discussion as to use high or low gear ratio. I kept low and was pretty happy with it. But on the other hand I was fourth and the others “paved the way” even though they got stuck often. What is your suggestion on the gear ratio and most importantly why high vs low? I would really appreciate if you could answer! Best!

[@ErikTaraldsen]

Hvor i landet holder dere til? Ser ut som fint kjøreområde. 👍😀

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hei, vi holder til i Trøndelag. 😉👍

[@ErikTaraldsen]

Ålreit! Blir muligens et par uker i Nord-Trøndelag i sommer. Tar dere i mot gjester om det skulle passe med tid og sted?

[@runesteinsnnkristoffersen5641]

Æ kjenne æ blir `svett` , her æ sett i stolen m kaffekoppen :-) I know I get sweaty, here I`m sitting, in the chair with the coffee-cup :-) Good work, mates !

[@LandRoverDrive]

:) Thanks! Really glad you liked it! So much fun in the snow! 😀👍

[@rgbteamoffroadbartek4307]

I would like ride with you but I'm from Kristiansund ... where you have such a nice place 4x4

[@LandRoverDrive]

Kristiansund is not that far away! :) 3 hours drive? :) Check out NLRK on Facebook and on their webpage when there are events. And you can just follow me on facebook and Instagram for daily updates. 😀 No trips planed in the near future. Thinking of this weekend but all the snow is raining away at the moment.. 😱😰

[@UchaGogoladze]

Defender super 👍

[@LandRoverDrive]

The Defender is awesome and I love it! :) Thanks for watching and remember to subscribe if you haven't yet. 😀👍

[@jameslindley8318]

Check out Toyota 76 Wagon with MARKS Portal Axles - WOAH !!!!!!!!!

[@LandRoverDrive]

Would be awesome to watch! Don't think the 76 series is sold in Norway. It's a pity cause it's an awesome looking truck and got some great off road abilities! 😀👍 Thanks for watching! What did you think? Have any critics? Thanks !!! 😉👍

[@jameslindley8318]

@@LandRoverDrive No Critics at All ! Great Stuff. But Check our MARKS Portal Axles on You Tube, youll be gob smacked

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@jameslindley8318 Hehe, will do. :) Saw Tibius is making portals for Defender. But don't know if it would be road legal in Norway though... 😀👍

[@Volvette1991]

Why on Defender other numbers? red ..? on 20:20

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey, I broke of the license plate holder. It's in plastic and does not like the ploughing I been doing. 😀 Will remove the holder and bold the license plate directly to the front bumper. The red is a temporary license number, if you need to drive it MOT and you don't have a license, you can pay to get a 24 hour license. 👍😉

[@Alex_Melkadze]

Guys, Erik is using these factory rims without tubes ? or are they aftermarket ?

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey Alex, and good spotting. Yeah, no tubes. But that has actually changed this year. Erik had a slight leak so he put in tubes last week when he change from winter to summer tires. 🙂 I'm pretty sure it's the orignal rims on this one. Maybe Erik can fill in the blanks, will ask him.

[@Alex_Melkadze]

@@LandRoverDrive Thanks Simon :) I was reading that these original rims are designed to be used with tubes. In theory you can use them without tubes but it is a bit unsafe as it has smaller bed flanges and it’s easier for the tyre to come off. Some aftermarket workshops are producing these rims with the bigger beads and flanges but they are quite expensive. Lets wait for Erik :)

[@LandRoverDrive]

Aaa, okay, I did not know that. Yeah Erik knows alot about RRC. :) Expensive aftermarket, I cand only imagine. 🙂

[@user-ih4ig3km1z]

дефендер это класс!

[@LandRoverDrive]

The Defender is great! :) Love goint on trips with it, nothing like it! 👍😀

[@user-ih4ig3km1z]

@@LandRoverDrivedеф это чудо на колесах

[@Montblanc1986]

They only broke down 9 times it's a record!

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey and thanks for watching. 😉 Broke down, no, just standard winter offroad stuff. Getting stuck, popping a bead.. All good and fun! Learning by doing and nothing wrong, yet, with the cars. 👍😀 Pretty awesome they hold up as good as they do with the strain in this kind of temperatures. Im amazed by them! 😀 More videos of them on the channel if you are interested.

[@363one363]

Hi! What is the pressure in the tires?

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey, Erik was letting out as he was driving up but he target was around 1bar /14.5 PSI - But not 100% accurate. He checked all tires after he changed the one that popped and then he was running 1bar/14.5 PSI. I was running 1.2 - 1.3 bar / 17 - 18 PSI on the Defender and Ørjan was running 2.2bar / 31-32 PSI. 👍😀 Thanks for watching! 😉

[@363one363]

@@LandRoverDrive It is not enough for deep snow. Try a pressure of 0.5-0.8 bar. On steel disks it is easier to disassemble the tire. But stock alloy wheels hold better.

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@363one363 Okay, will try to go down to that next time and see on my winter tires. Did not know that steal and alloy made a difference when it comes to pop a bead. 🤔 Does wheel size vs rim size matter? Like i thinking of going for 8" wide rim with a whider tire, 285mm ++

[@363one363]

​@@LandRoverDrive Not even the material has a meaning. It is just the stock alloy wheels 7 inches wide. They better hold a flat tire. Yes rim width does matter. The narrower the disc, the lower the chance to disassemble the wheel at low pressure. Someone sawing discs from 7 inches to 5.5 inches. For 285 enough and 7 inches. The most optimal dimension for defender 255/85/16.

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@363one363 Aaaa, thanks man, good to know. 😀👍 7" 285 and really low pressure. Hmm, needs to be tested out. 😀 Thanks again. Great getting tips and tricks. 👍

[@briankelvindiffey3006]

What are you guys trying to prove ??

[@billbilly3142]

Brian Kelvin Diffey it’s for fun not for proving

[@LandRoverDrive]

Hey, as Bill Billy just said, not trying to prove anything. Just out having fun with friends and sharing it with everyone who enjoys this kind of trips and adventures. There is more videos on the channel that shows what we are all about. Overlanding, off road and good times with friends! 👍😀 We are out learning in all areas and we share our experiences with everyone, and everyone who like can comment and share their experiences with us, so we are all learning from each other. So much to learn and so much fun to be had. 😀 Thanks for watching and please check out the other videos. 👍

[@iknutis]

Redigeringen og filmingen blir bare bedre og bedre. Stå på, ble også sliten av å se på. 😂

[@LandRoverDrive]

Så bra!! Glad for det og satser at det fortsetter. :) Sliten, å hvilken måte? Tolker det som bra sliten, hehe, håper i alle fall. 😀

[@iknutis]

Haha, får litt adrenalin når bilen sklir mot kanten. Og ikke minst setter seg fast, og jeg vet hvor mye jobb det er å komme seg løs igjen. Så ja, positivt sliten. 👍

[@LandRoverDrive]

@@iknutis Ja ser den, ble svett minst et par ganger, ville ikke at D4`en skulle bli hengen over kanten på tur opp. Da hadde hele dagen gått til å få Ørjan opp. :) Heldigvis gikk det bra og fikk filmet litt forskjellig. :)