Jeep Wrangler Rubicon versus Land Rover Defender | 4xOverland

Land Rover Defender versus Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
This massive comparison between these two legendary off-roaders reveals some surprises. The Jeep Wrangler (Jeep Wrangler Rubicon) and Land Rover Defender (One-ten stationwagon) are the two great off-roaders by which all others are judged. But which one is best?
Here, 4x4 author and filmmaker Andrew St Pierre White joins 4x4 training guru John Rich to undertake the challenge.
The vehicles are compared in terms of driving comfort, rear seat space, dash ergonomics, on-road ride and comfort, and of course, off road ability. The two transmissions are explained and tested. In the rough, the two vehicles are pretty evenly matched, until . . . Watch the video to find out.
NB. This Jeep is a limited edition 2012 "Call of Duty" Wrangler Rubicon no 246 of 250.
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[@kholomokolo]

Not being an owner but a lover of the Defender and a "knower" of nothing to do with "off-roading" I enjoyed this immensely. I loved the fact that the reviewer, an expert in his own right is not a know-it-all and does ask for help where he feels he might not do justice to the review. In terms of balance I felt it was quite fair e.g. leaving out the Jeep's more advance suspension features to better approximate and even out the comparison to that of the older Defender. Lastly, I find it fascinating that at changeover to the owner drivers that one can pick up that they prefer brute force over patient thought out, line-picking negotiation over terrain. Good work! PS: I don't think this review was to convince anyone that one religion is better that the other. No one is being converted here, relax guys ;)

[@4xoverland]

Thank you Kholo

[@brendanjames7122]

Their designs are also built to suit specific tasks. We don't do much overland driving here in the US, and those who do use off road trailers to pull behind the Jeeps. Likewise you wouldn't normally use a Land Rover where we drive our Jeeps either. Most of our off road experiences are in wooded areas or tight mountain trails. The Land Rovers are at home in the deserts where most of them play. Great comparison though, not biased like most videos.

[@Crashryding]

Brendan James Landrovers are not built for the desert mate. They are built to do it all, same as a Landcruiser. Have a look at the Landrover training course in the UK

[@alettapramesti505]

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[@dre04mach]

@@Crashryding Land rovers would not be able to follow a rubicon rock crawling. There are no land rovers or range rovers in the king of the hammers competition for example...

[@4xoverland]

I think my next head-on-head test review should be Land Cruiser 76 wagon GLX with lockers, and the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon - with lockers.

[@tsfv22]

+4xOverland or a standard gwagon professional ?

[@4xoverland]

+Tom Solemé Yes. That would be very interesting. But not sure If I can get my hands on one.

[@scottzimmermann5649]

+4xOverland i have a G also, and a that price point i think a comparison becomes a bit tenuous. besides, the articulation in a G is terrible. in a devious way, i think you should compare the G v. defender with the lockers off, since its more apples to apples in the overland/payload arena. ive always said the defender was much better at doing everything but carrying me.

[@axelcordes]

+4xOverland The current Land Cruiser V8 against the Mercedes G, or what else.. I was out (last year) with a guy having a current V8 Land Cruiser - wow this car delivers - wolf in sheep dress we would say. (Being Land Rover addicted, but looking over the soup plate)

[@venter9763]

Where in South africa was this filmed? or Souther africa?

[@dobbins2550]

As an American, I feel you were very fair. No one is significantly better than the other. Both are legendary and have such a loyal following.

[@PavleBalenovic]

Both were legends in the past ... but it is all over now.

[@4801328]

Pavle Balenovic how dare you

[@SwissArmySteve.]

Land rover = unreliability

[@dfcvda]

@@SwissArmySteve. Chrysler = terrible transmissions + life span.

[@SwissArmySteve.]

@@dfcvda My Jeep = Mercedes engine + transmission = reliability

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

To me their is no winner or loser! Both are winners to me👍 love them both.

[@healthyamerican]

the only loser will be the new defender which we all know will be a city defender and not an overlander

[@maureencora1]

Touche'.

[@Mikhail.Tolstykh]

@@healthyamerican because most wranglers are not mall crawlers? Common... Both veicules are great Jeep nuts and landies nuts are quite annoying Its like only their veicule is good and all the rest its not worth it.

[@funibikeman6769]

I agree. I couldn’t pick a favourite

[@jessewoody5772]

BongRasta No offense but, it's obvious you've never owned one. I was the same way at 19 yrs old when I bought my first vehicle- a 1978 IH Scout ll.. I was the baddest mutha on the planet with that truck. Now 40 yrs later and I've got that same feeling with my Jeep. It's just passion. You heard the man at the beginning , its like a religion. When you buy a vehicle you love it becomes your life's reason

[@bonob0123]

Same tires at same pressures. Wow the first channel that does vehicle comparisons correctly in any meaningful way.

[@berserkertelevision5350]

I actually really enjoyed the review. I think it was a fair comparison. I actually really like Laddies. Being from North America I will always own a Jeep, and here is the reason. I actually owned a Land Rover here in North America, The sticker price on one of land rovers new or used is most of the time double to triple the price of a Jeep. The price of parts maintenance and aftermarket parts are few and far between, expensive to the point of not being worth it, I lived it. Here in Canada the Jeep market is very accessible. It is literally the Mr. Potato Head of off road vehicles for North America. I could build an insane Overland vehicle that would destroy a Landy bare stock for its price here. And if it breaks I can get it repaired much easier and much, much cheaper. On the other hand if I lived somewhere like the UK or AUS I would most likely own a Landy or Toyota as the availability, parts and repair costs are almost flipped to my above analogy. I think that would have been worth mentioning in the video. A good 4x4 vehicle can be very dependant of where you live. Cheers and Thanks for the review.

[@ernstwondering899]

Berserker Television

[@mrcvry]

True! Land Rover parts are (as far as I know the prices) the cheapest of all cars here if you order from the UK. If you buy i.e. from BMW the Land Rover part prices are on the level of Porsche!

[@YJ-7]

I'm from the UK and would like a Jeep

[@LamontBoucherville]

I approve this message as a. Fellow canadien

[@doominic1882]

4 years late but thats the most intelligent response ive heard to this debate. Im in the uk. LR are cheap and parts are so easily available. We don’t see jeeps. Jeep parts would be harder to find and more expensive.

[@EvanMoon]

I enjoyed that you said "this is my opinion, not science, so don't bother me about that". Your video is enjoyable because you are a person sharing your thoughts, we can read the details in a spreadsheet if needed. Here in the US, off roading is done for fun. Short trips done to challenge driver and machine. So the jeep has great approach and departure angles and not a lot of space. The jeep u compared is the longest one you can get and it has very little space compared to the Landy. Also the springs are designed for the flex and ride height for obstacles not heavy load. The Landy is far better for carrying gear and long overland travel. They sell so many diff versions of attachable rear shelves for the jeep, but that is not the same. In the end, great video and well done comparison. Makes me want to get the clutch fixed on my Pinz 710M and go off road.

[@Berserkeroffroad]

Andrew, that was a fantastic comparison and review of the two vehicles. I appreciate that you left out bias and let the comparable vehicle features do the talking. Your overlay shots with the turning radius and axle droop were both simple and powerful with their visuals. Well done! I also want to thank you for the driving skill videos you've produced. They've made a big difference in my driving maturity (and my Jeep's undercarriage thanks you). After years of rock crawling I'm just now venturing into overlanding and your KZbin channel has been a great wealth of information.

[@harisbuza8862]

Great review, really enjoyed seeing these two off-road warriors. Just a note on the HDC on the JK Wrangler. Once activated, the speed can be adjusted up and down while driving simply by changing gears. 1st low - 1.5km/h 2nd low - 4km/h 3rd low - 6.5km/h 4th low - 9 km/h Drive12 km/h It’s a great system 👍

[@omnitaro]

I've been driving a Rubicon for two years now and I'll be getting a 2015 Defender in a week thanks to you Andrew. I am certainly proud being able to own two legendary icons.

[@nicodemusnteta4955]

This is one of the best videos iv ever watched in my life,well done Gentlemen.

[@ethanholshouser5648]

I don't understand why you exclude the Jeep's locking diffs from consideration just because the LR doesn't have them... It doesn't have Hill Descent Control either but you included that. Isn't the presence of lockers on the Jeep an advantage that should be considered?

[@dre04mach]

It's a brit reviewing a US vehicle that's about to take the beloved defender for a run. The hill climb would have been done without a single slip of a wheel with both lockers on.

[@robbo777cricket]

+dre04mach he's South African.

[@phasechange5053]

I have to agree And as far as saying this Jeep isn't stock those are 31" tires pretty darn standard and just BFG all terrains pretty standard indeed . Even sports come with 31" Wranglers (Arguably better than the bfg's ) The only real benefits of the rubicon are the lockers and the gear ratios (not sure if that specific model comes with the dana 44's or not most rubicons did) otherwise get a sport to compare. Most Slightly modified Jeeps would not spin on this course Unlocker swaybar Small lift 35" tires GG

[@dre04mach]

+sf len maybe in other countries they come with those 31 all terrains ta ko's, but here in the states rubicons only come with the mud terrain, in a 32" tire. the sports come with a pretty much highway tire unless you option up.

[@dre04mach]

+sf len maybe in other countries they come with those 31 all terrains ta ko's, but here in the states rubicons only come with the mud terrain, in a 32" tire. the sports come with a pretty much highway tire unless you option up.

[@4xoverland]

There are some discussion as to my nationality as a result of the fact that viewers are accustomed to Brits loving Land Rovers, and Americans loving Jeeps, based purely on their nationality. I assume you think this is so here? Well, think again. I don't care! Really, I don't. BTW. My favourite 4WD is the G-Wagen 461 series and the Land Cruiser, which is what I drive now. And no, I'm not Japanese. Or German. As it happens, born in England to Australian and New Zealand Parents, lived most of my life in Africa, live now in Australia and one of my current favourite places to go overlanding is the USA. Get to know my work and you will understand.

[@damnjustassignmeone]

Hmm. But all of that does not make you objective. The interior is "typical American." Every reviewer from the British empire. I just don't know... Nonetheless, liked and subscribed. Bc, you know, good video...

[@omar1s1]

If you aren't going to use the Rubicons' differential locks then you aren't testing it's full capability and any vs comparison is null and void. Just because the Defender doesn't come with that feature that is standard on the Rubicon doesn't mean your must make them equal by handicapping the Rubi.... WHICH IS WHOLLY BIAS. Also listing the Defenders cons and shortcomings as "character" and endearing qualities unique to the Defender is complete hogwash and bias to it's core.... the same can be said of any vehicle. THUMBS DOWN

[@jeffmullinix7916]

Does Jeeps have true Diff locks ! They have locking hubs but no lock in or lock out diffs . The Defender used to have both diffs locking in and out . That is why the Defender can go into places a jeep cant go . Plus the Defender has Boxed frame and Jeep dont . The Defender is vary stiff while the Jeep distorts in a twist .

[@holton345]

Jeeps have fully boxed frames that are very strong. They have not used locking hubs for decades. The Rubicon model comes with selectable front and rear lockers stock. Were you high af when you typed that nonsense or are you just woefully misinformed? You typed six sentences and five of them are demonstrably false.

[@gamerstrand]

actually, the Jeep has been to places where a Defender has not. "The Jeep Wrangler has set the Guinness World Record for highest altitude attained by a four-wheeled vehicle after ferrying Matthias Jeschke and his Extrem Events adventure team up Chile's Ojos del Salado, the highest volcano on Earth. The trek from base camp to the world record height ran from March 7 to March 13, when the team's pair of Wrangler Rubicon Unlimiteds checked in at 6,646 meters, or 21,804 feet. " read for yourself please www.autoblog.com/2007/04/03/jeep-wrangler-gets-high-sets-record/

[@bozmeg69]

I have had the luck in life to own simultaneously both a 1997 110 and 2010 Jeep Jk Rubicon unlimited. The jeep was bought from the dealer, where the 110 was purchased used and in dire needs for maintenance. The first thing set these vehicles apart was that I found the 110 was like a tractor trying to be a car, while the Jeep was a car trying to be a tractor. Road manners for the jeep were far greater than the 110 on the paved roads, yet the 110 was superior on the offroad. The Utilitarian aspect of the 110 was very appealing for my uses and needs in a four wheel drive vehicle. My needs are simple, my occasional tasks are to get water with my 3/4 ton M 101a1 military trailer. My total payload including trailer is around 3000 lbs. At times I use the set up to harvest firewood in very remote areas. This is not work for a jeep at all. The Jeep would whine while towing my load of water. It actually sounded like it was out of oil as I revved the engine while under tow. The valves just rattled very loudly. Obviously the 110 never showed any weakness in the same circumstances. The 110 that I have has an axle equivalent to Dana 60, where the Jeep has a Dana 44. I eventually installed 33`s on my Jeep with a 2 inch Old Man Emu suspension kit. That turn out to be potentially not good for my C knuckles on the axle, as their design started to bend. My use was not very extreme. I found this to be a very concerning point for me to except seeing as the Rubicon was revered to be the toughest model in the Jeep line up. The overall build quality of the Jeep seemed to be somewhat junk as time went by. The 110 seemed to be much more solid. Less interior creeking noises. Jeeps used to be revered as easy vehicles to work on. I have found that 110 is way easier and cheaper for the diy mechanic. First hand impressions for some will find greater value with the Rubicon over the 110. In the long run, the 110 with a 300 tdi engine has proven to be the greater vehicle for my needs. A true fantasy comparison for this 110 owner would be to have a Gwagen, 70`s series, Rubicon Unlimited with a diesel, and a 110 in the lane way to let things sort itself out.

[@Preyser123]

Greetings from South Africa. Your Defender 110 will then be one of the late 399tdi models since it is a 1997 model. We, as a family, don't own one at the moment but I tend to a gree that the 300tdi is a fantastic DIY engine to work on when problems occur and need to be fixed. The double cab pickup versions of the Defender are my personal favourite as they gave the practicallity of a double cab pickup and I also like to believe they are unique and something different to the traditional station wagon models. I'm not really a td5 fan as it was the era when things were beginning to become more electronic but I do respect the fact that some people enjoy that engine. However, I would buy a Discovery 2 with that engine and a manual transmition mainly for long distance tar road driving and some gravel road driving but not for extreme off-roading as 4xoverland discovered. For off-roading in a Discovery I would take the Discovery 1 wit the 300tdi engine and manual transmition. I also like the 2.4l Pumer engines, although they are more electronically controlled compared to the 300tdi engines. These are my thoughts as a blind person, putting myself in a normal sighted person's shoes.

[@donewhiskey]

"What single unique character makes their vehicle special to them?" Jeep: "It provides you a sense of being invincible. Everything is so well thought out and put together that driving it, no matter where you are or where you're going to is never an issue. You just use it and it goes." Land Rover: "Everywhere where you go and you stop, the guys always come and talk to you and swap stories out." I think that about sums it up.

[@1ode2joy]

I think it's worth saying that this is in this video at 37:20 for those who didn't make it that far. It says a lot in my opinion. Of course, in America, the players could easily be reversed. Park an overland Jeep and people gather.

[@seanl764]

@@1ode2joy They shouldn't have compared it to a Jeep JK which was a mass market appeal car with 1 million+ sold. They should have compared it to the holy grail of Jeeps, the 2004-2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (long Wheel Base) 2 door Rubicon which has the legendary 4.0L I6 Engine that literally can run reliably without engine oil. Also, every Jeep Wrangler ever made is a Convertible, and you can make it look like a Defender if you want with a Gr8tops Safari Hardtop. Not to mention parts are very cheap for the Jeep. A brand new Engine is only $2000.

[@chadingram6390]

@@seanl764 Run reliably without engine oil? Drop the hyperbole it will make you seem more trust worthy

[@designexplainedllc346]

@@chadingram6390 Jeep 4.0l i6 from the 1990's were notorious for having a faulty oil pump after 100k miles. There are numerous people on Jeep forums who ran their 4.0L with a broken oil pump for thousands of miles before they noticed. The 4.0l is a big engine with a robust block that is very understressed and overbuilt. It only outputs 190hp, only bad thing about it is that it runs hot and it overheats easily, which is quite annoying if you are in the bogs and constantly need to be on the gas to get out of sticky situations, but the radiator is pretty straightforward to change out and there are plenty of aftermarket solutions.

[@chadingram6390]

@@designexplainedllc346 Someone claiming to drive thousands of miles without oil pressure on an internet forum is a lot different from "literally can run reliably without engine oil"

[@GaneshRaman07]

I appreciate how you set a fair playing field for both the vehicles. I love the iconic defender and the much loved jeep.

[@mervynjones6469]

This is the first time I have watched one of your videos. I liked it. You were fair and knowledgeable. I will be back.

[@bm_videa]

I found your channel a couple of days ago, and I am really glad I did! Your reviews and advice are really top notch, very balanced and based in reality. Thank you for the information.

[@spydoorman7583]

The Jeep is 4x4 weapon while the Defender is a 4x4 overland tool, the former a lifestyle offroading toy while the latter a workhorse recreational camping tool. Both have ups and downs.

[@nycgags]

If you are going to showcase the hill descent feature of the Rubicon, you need to do the same for the front and rear axle locking differentials, it really makes the gap in off-roading performance that much greater. I'd expect the Rubicon to tackle that obstacle on first try with no slipping.

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

You're absolutely correct! Now they could get a new Defender against that Rubicon and Rubicon would still be better I've seen it done in real life. Also he said the defendant had better will travel that's not true he probably didn't disconnect the sway bars on the Jeep with the electronic option. Have you seen the later video or he takes a black Rubicon to the sand dunes and you finally admits it's the best off road vehicle in the world

[@danielsmith5351]

How could a Jeep fan not like the Land Rover...How could a Land Rover fan not like the Jeep.

[@jimbobjones3391]

The comparison I've been waiting for - well done Andrew! My questions: 1. You made no reference to the sway bar disconnect of the Rubicon. Was this activated during your test? 2. The Rubicon's transfer case has an extra-low 4:1 ratio. You commented that the speed going down-hill (with descent control on) was perfect. Was this due to the low gearing or the electronic descent control?

[@baz770]

Thank you for taking the time to put this together. I can imagine the setting, content, production took some time. I am looking forward to the Cruiser comparison. On a personal note, having seen Japanese, American and British 4x4 work on multiple continents (exploration geologist by profession) I would say that I don't have a clear winner that is always my "go to' vehicle. This relates to support (parts), cost and a multitude of little factors. Here in Australia the Criuser rules supreme and is hard to beat, yet earlier this year I was in Gabon and good old, ex-UK Army Landrovers driven by the drilling company were the best vehicles on site in the rainy season. On a side note about track though, several years ago one fo the drilling companies put people into F250's in the bush rather than putting three big blokes across the front seat of a HJ Cruiser ute. Great vehciles for getting from Perth to the field site (1000km drive) but no good once they were there. Why? it was not build quality, handling etc but the wider track. So much wider that you always had one wheel well off the 'beaten track' and they picked up stake after stake and had to change tyres continuously. This came to mind when I heard you discussing track. To each there own and I can put my hand up to personally owning multiple variatiosn of Amercian, British and japanese 4x4's but i will leave you guessing as to which one it is right now. All the best Adrian Byass

[@JasnoGT]

Amazing brilliant video. These guys are great when it comes to offroading. They aren't trying to make you laugh or annoy you with personal bs. They are truly thorough unbiased and objective. I enjoyed the Jeep WK Grand Cherokee review many years ago and enjoyed this one even more. Excellent work!

[@celebratingandover6135]

As a relatively young person looking to get in to 4x4’ing, I am finding this channel very helpful. Thank you :)

[@Jeffy2n]

As an American, I would just like to say, after years of off roading, I completely agree with your assessment. Thank you for your very honest report.

[@Xeonz1000]

this is best 4x4 review I ever saw , Thank you Sir!

[@Altema22]

I thought it was a good comparison, and it is a good point about the payload and range. However, the fact that the Jeep had far better off road abilities, even when intentionally crippled, is telling indeed. Your fuel range is zero when you are stuck ;)

[@jonbertocchi173]

Do you know which cripples the jeep? Thats right the hummer 1 will go where jeep cant. I wish jeep had the same suspension.

[@gabrielmessam2374]

@@jonbertocchi173 only to a certain extent. I love the humvee, it's my dream truck. But they are massive, to the point of impracticality. Too big for small trails. And they are very difficult to modify. You definitely need lots of expertise to upgrade a humvee. Jeeps are comparatively easy to upgrade

[@funibikeman6769]

To be fair the h1 is a lot wider than the wrangler

[@indigogolf3051]

I have never driven off road nor have I owned a 4x4 though I am interested. However, your channel is absolutely riveting. I don't know how I found you but when I did I just keep watching your vids one after the other. You must be doing something right! Many thanks Andrew from an urban dodgem car driver in England.

[@kiwi-kt2bo]

One of the best reviews on ANY car i've seen. EVER

[@lex_dis8707]

this is one of the best reviews I have ever seen. so much useful information, love it. Good work and keep it up.

[@nareshkumarhandagama7438]

I'm an American living in Texas. This is an objective comparison.....and I might say....bloody well done!!!

[@mr.mintoutou]

I simply love the iconic Defender, it's my dream SUV! Regardless of all the old disadvantages, this car gives us the feeling that it is full of itself. The style, the reliability, the lack of comfort, everything is part of its character.

[@carandril86]

Reliability...... Let me disagree 😆 I have one it's always at the workshop

[@GustavoGomigCorreia]

@@carandril86 maybe it is your fault, a good Defender with right maintenance is reliable

[@codyb6106]

All too often a 4wd comparison comes down to who has the best tires. Bravo to you guys for solving that first. Great job!!

[@JeepsRtheDevil]

As a jeep owner I don't feel like he was unfair. What I will say is almost no jeep owner who off roads leave their jeep stock. Day one bigger tires...lift...winch...aftermarket bumper...underbody armor...changs the gears..change the axle..change the control arms...change the suspension..basically change almost every aspect of it outside the interior and make it your own. It's a expensive mr. Potato Head which we make into a beast.

[@wlh227]

I currently have a 2 door Jeep JK and it is my 4th Jeep and IMO the biggest weakness is the lack of load capacity and towing ability. That said it is excellent in just about every other area.

[@waltermeono5253]

Well, FCA listened your pray: the new pick-up Gladiator has lots of load capacity and towing ability. Greetings from Costa Rica.

[@m.fatani7288]

Toyota still makes a whole line of offroad vehicles that havent changed.. they just dont offer them in the states because barely any market for them.. the troopy.. the classic hilux trucks etc.. all still for sale world wide. Plus they offer base model and diesel Land cruisers that will rival anything by Jeep or Land Rover

[@wmeyer116]

it annoys me that you excluded the Rubicon's lockers, as they wouldn't be in the defender, but at the same time you said you liked the defender better because it had more space, which the wrangler didn't have. if you are going to include individual features, allow both to use what is unique to them. Just saying

[@mudpanther6079]

but you can add a locker to defender , you cant add more space in the rear of a wrangler , dimentions wise anyway

[@dre04mach]

@@mudpanther6079 Sure you can add more space in the rubicon, by getting the rubicon unlimited.

[@oldcargeezer]

I own a Defender but am sure the Wrangler would have the edge in extreme off road with the locking differentials.

[@MythicalDust]

@@dre04mach that is a rubicon unlimited lol

[@sbohunko]

Great video! IMO the Jeep proved to be superior in ability overall. I appreciate the character of the vehicles, but would go for the Jeep.

[@callummarshall4989]

The big thing for me is that the 110 is not a 110 i own one that is an old military spec and it has dif lock but no back seats. 2 rows of bench seats instead.

[@evanvillegas9145]

Andrew S (4xOverland), just wanted to say thank you for such a lovely channel. I am very glad that I stumbled upon it on while doing research on Jeeps and trying to learn about mine. Its such a refreshing thing to see someone give thoughtful, unbiased commentary and also just have interesting things to say and show us in general. Thanks again.

[@Wachuko-1]

Very honest and fair review. Loved it! And yes, would love to see one using all the vehicle capabilities (lockers). Thank you for putting this together!

[@Daveinet]

You missed one big thing about the hand straps in the rear. These are safety devices. If you hang on to something solid and roll the vehicle, your hand is crushed. If you are hanging on to a swingy strap, it just moves around and saves your hand from getting crushed. The Jeep is well thought out.

[@4xoverland]

Oh. That's very interesting. I learned something new today. Thanks for that.

[@emekaossai5485]

This test should be the way all off road reviews should be done

[@T4nkcommander]

By intentionally hamstringing one vehicle? Other than that tho, it was pretty good.

[@InsanityHere]

My choice is Wrangler Rubi. Yes, I'm also biased toward "American stuff". Can't wait to get my Rubi. Test drove one recently, and I thought it was a great drive on the road.

[@KTMcaptain]

Im glad you left the axles open. Really showcased how well the suspension keeps even pressure on both wheels. Lockers woulda hid that and everyone would have said no duh it was better it was locked.

[@iamoutofideas13]

Amazing video, Andrew. That superimposed video of the axle articulation was fantastic. Thank you.

[@johnybrokeit]

What a beautiful episode! This gentleman looks like he gave it his all :) thank you, Sir. Excellently done! And the off-road teacher gentleman, so calm and peaceful. I could probably accept anything he might teach me simply cuz he is so calm n composed and regal like :) You did however limit the jeep by not allowing its use of its sway bar disconnect option or the front and rear differential lock feature (I forgot which one u did not allow) for the sake of fair game :) Altogether, a beautiful watch this video was. Thank you, gentlemen! Johny

[@MalcolmMulroney]

Great video, as an old school 4x4er I have never put much on "electronic" controls like the downhill assist. I now own a 2015 Jeep Wrangler Willies, took it up a track here in Colorado called Red Cone Pass; its has a decent from 12,800 ft that is unbelievable (google it). anyways, i put on the down hill assist thinking it wouldn't help, but why not, and wow. The jeep walked down the hill like it was walking down a country lane.

[@dre04mach]

and meanwhile you're sitting there 1/32nds of an inch off the brake pedal biting your nails wondering if it knows what it's doing... Yep, I was doing the same thing, lol :D

[@rogue109]

I love my Jeep for it's flexibility...not only the range of travel for the front and rear axles...but for the front and rear lockers... I get to choose if I wan't front wheel drive, rear wheel drive, all wheel drive or limited slip, everyday stuff....either way, I get to decide.

[@OhYeaMista]

The "front wheel drive" lever on mine must have fallen off.

[@rogue109]

pcosta816 You know, you are right. I can lock the front but the rear stays limited slip, so it's not really front wheel drive...but most of the traction comes from then front in that case.

[@lvmybears]

+pcosta816 ya,mine didnt have that either

[@loweaguirre454]

Jeep and Land Rover owners share the same spirit. The spirt of the outdoor adventures. Always dreaming about the next after market accessories. Always dreaming about the next trip. Life is good !!!

[@kellandbailey2970]

I cant say that I agree enough with this video. I live in Colorado and drive a lifted Wrangler X as my fulltime vehicle. It can go anywhere I could possibly want offroad without breaking a sweat, but take it on Interstate 25 at 75 MPH is one of the more terrifying experiences I've had. It's great to take camping when I'm by myself, throw other people and their stuff into the mix and things get complicated quickly.

[@adamdrumonde1664]

I thought this was a great review, though I'd have liked to see more testing, but I thought your comparison was spot on and for anyone mentioning any bias because you're british... You were in favour of the american vehicle in terms of performance, which is totally against the grain and I think proves in this situation you were being true and honest.

[@bobbymulwee7641]

I love only one (JEEP) but respect and enjoy the heritage of the Defender. The Jeep is part of us Colonist ;) and it's part of the family when your an owner.

[@HeliRy]

And now as 2019 draws to a close, the new Defender 110 is available for roughly the same price as a four-door Rubicon. What a time to be alive!!!

[@repro24569]

Great video. So refreshing to see people do a comparison without bias and egos and immaturity.

[@phracture]

Great comparison Andrew. I think John summed it up beautifully. Off roading/adventuring/overlanding is about your relationship with your vehicle. Knowing how your vehicle will react in certain situations combined with the drivers experience and knowledge gets you a result (good or bad). At the end of the day we all love adventures and getting into the outdoors. Whatever horse you choose is your decision, and yours alone! Treat your horse well, learn as you go and have fun!

[@mickeydee3595]

They are both great! However I think Land Rover failed in keeping the defender up with the times and hence why there is no more defender. I was honestly thinking about swapping my JK diesel for a defender mid last year. Went to the LR dealership and was treated very poorly there by the sales people. I had to demand their assistance and a test drive after waiting 45 mins circling a defender with nobody coming to see me. It was then that i truely realised how dated and poor the interior is compared to the Jeep JK. Very cramped to the point where the only way I could steer was with the window open so my elbow could protrude out. And power wise the Defender couldnt touch the wrangler's VM motori. It felt slow, sluggish and truck like compared to my JK. Still love the defender but having the Jeep before hand really put me off and thats when i decided to keep the jeep instead of the swap. The jeep is also much safer in the event of a collision. Just my 2 cents and I know not everybody will agree with me but thats the awesome nature of being human, We are all different with different likes/dislikes. Awesome Videos. I really enjoy them!

[@queef3057]

You can buy all that stuff for defenders too, probably cheaper and undoubtably in more places throughout the world.. Not only that, but with the £10,000 saved by going for a defender 90 over the rubicon (retail cost uk) you could buy axle lockers, multiple sets of tyres, a winch or two, or even a van full of after market goodies if you so desired. The rubicon would then be left well behind off road for the same money. Jkandl actually hit the nail on the head. The actual difference is refinement, and that is personal preference. Personally i loved having the ol elbow out of the window. I love the air conditioning even more, two fecking flaps with levers!!!! That's great. No carpet? Good, i can clean it out with a hose pipe. Uncomfortable seats, love em, i'm a bit odd like that. The defender has it's place: farms, expeditions, military, true off roading and passionate enthusiasts.. It's near perfection for such markets... Land Rover don't really target the general public with defenders for good reason, they don't need to. They have other 4x4's targeted at normal folk who want comforts, plus, the defender pretty much dominates the global market for it's particular class of vehicle.. If someone wanted a refined land rover they sell them. The Freelander, Discovery and Range Rover. Various styles and engine sizes available. In other words, people need to stop telling themselves they want a utility vehicle when really they want an SUV. Maybe that way people will stop being disappointed with the trim of a utility 4x4 vehicle. It's not a friggin land cruiser :P They should stay basic and unrefined.. I'll just give you a quick example of why changing some of the things you mentioned would actually be bad for the defenders intended use and market. - More ellbow room would require a wider cab. A defender is very well known for getting through narrow spaces (dense woodland). Is it worth losing that for elbow room? Not on a utility off road truck, most true off road has obstructions, it doesn't matter how much elbow room your car has if you have to walk . - Refinements need cleaning. Defenders carry dead livestock, feeds, mud, all sorts. Add refinements and you can't hose it down. In fact it would probably be in a terrible state within weeks of hard use. - Refinements break. The less to break the better for it's intended use. - A bigger engine isn't really needed. The 200/300 tdi and td5 have enough power to get through deep mud and snow, but not so much to apply too much force on slippery technical sections. They also tow well. Real world off roading isn't mud baths and v8 engines, it's tight, technical and normally slippery sections at a slow pace. Some off roaders actually fit lower powered engines without turbo's by choice.

[@yo2748]

JkandI i love defender and my dad is probaly going too get one but like you said everybody is diferent

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

​@@queef3057 buy all what stuff? Haha he didn't mention buying anything. Just talked about the overpriced outdated slow Defender

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

​@@queef3057 you must really not like the new Defender the way you are defending how great the old one is for being so under-equipped and every way the new one is so over equipped now hahaha but that's how Brits are at they are way underdone or way overdone they don't find a middle line everything they do seems overdone or underdone

[@queef3057]

@@ronaldrrootiii6040 lol. Under equipped. It's a utility vehicle it's not about who has the best AC and heated seats. Original defender isn't designed as an suv, it's a work vehicle. Sorry to break it to you but axles out perform modern air suspension / tc setups. No serious off roader would disagree. Maybe those who call a muddy track off road would agree with you. I'll accept I'm wrong when I see them doing the same work a defender has been doing for decades. The newer discoveries however have already done a real good job of showing users they are not as capable as previous generations. Sure Jeremy Clarkson took one up a hill, but that's nothing compared to what an early axle driven disco can do. To get a modern style defender or disco to do the same work requires some seriously expensive upgrades. It's been seen time and time again with modern LR getting bellied out in terrain a standard axle driven LR wouldn't. They simply don't deliver fully on their promise. Not saying I don't like them at all, just I don't see them as the same thing. They are suv now, not utility work vehicles. And that comes at price in cost and capability. I'm sure they make great cars for doctors but you simply ain't seeing them on farms in high numbers and it is for good reason. It's probably worth noting that I live in Cumbria UK, a place where farming is a central factor in the landscape and terrain is simply put, pretty damn bad. It's a very wet, muddy and rocky area, it's called the lake District for good reason. I've used both modern and old style 4x4, and have experienced the shortfalls of both in real world use. I'll say this: it's only the modern ones that I've had to have recovered. They tend to belly out more readily, and as you may or may not know, that can be a real pig to recover as the flat belly creates a lot of suction. Not as bad on the old defender, actually I've not once been truly stuck in one. There are other advantages too that are very well established. Such as TC based 4x4 systems being reactive and only kicking in after traction is lost. Opposed to an axle driven vehicle where you can lock the drivetrain independently of electronically controlled systems, when you want it. Hands down the best I've used, as in capability not features, late model 300tdi. Has the best of both worlds. Axle driven, with TC. It's doesn't rely on the TC. I paid £10.5 k for a low mileage model on a galvanised chassis. It'll outlive the new defenders your seeing on the roads now, more capable, fraction of the price. But I use them as work vehicles not family cars. Prices for old defenders are inflated overseas, maybe something you should consider. I know in the US they pay up to 80k dollars, and that's not a good buy I would agree. Very different vehicles the old and new. I guarantee you'll not see the modern versions being held onto like the older ones, for good reason. Im certain if you go to any serious 4x4 forum and ask these questions you'll see I'm correct: Which is better for off road use: axle driven or modern TC based systems (The answer is axle driven) Which is better for off road use: chassis or monocoque (The answer is chassis)

[@rondail5675]

Fair testing. But the Jeep's locking-diff would give it a big advantage. What about price, difference? Excellent comparison. Thank you.

[@w9jim]

Interesting, but a poor comparison. You should have used the Jeep Wrangler Sport. It's closer in features. The Rubicon has auto sway bar disconnects and and front and rear lockers standard. Not using them is like sending a fighter into the ring with one hand tied behind his back.

[@GustavoGomigCorreia]

should have compared with an original wrangler, not rubicon mw3

[@healthyamerican]

the jeep still won

[@dre04mach]

@@healthyamerican It did, but the point of comparison is to see the difference, not just a winner. If you race a corvette and a golf, you don't use 3/4 throttle in the vette because it wins anyway....

[@eyeofhoruswadjet4236]

Bang for the buck, The Wrangler smokes the Defender. Now that the Jeep Gladiator Rubicon exists, this I think would be a more comparable test to the 110 (especially for overlanding). I think I would have rather seen a D90 go up against the regular Wrangler Rubicon.

[@kristenwaller6029]

I absolutely love my 2014 JKU Sahara... waited along time before finding one I could afford.... it's awesome!!!!

[@s.daniels9564]

Very good review. I own a modified Unlimited Rubicon. Do a lot of rock climbing with it. Always wondered why I saw the Land Rovers and never Jeeps in the safari and expedition videos. Now I know. I must add that with the rear seats folded down and externally - mounted fuel tanks, the Jeep might be able to match the LR in range and capacity. Where the LR must follow a trail, the slightly modified Jeep can blaze its own trails and go where most other 4x4's can't.

[@flybyav8tor]

That was the most boring off-road trip ever, were the wrangler's sway bars even disconnected? didn't matter I guess no articulation was needed. Loved the part of keeping the lockers off to keep it fair, its not fair at all, wrangler wins!

[@brad9690]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@caverdog1]

+flybyav8tor Absolutely right. He left a major benefit to the jeep disabled because the LR didn't have it?! I don't think I'd be doing that in the field so don't do it in a field test.

[@gro_skunk]

they had to keep the sway bars connected and differentials unlocked to keep it fair lol.

[@healthyamerican]

@@gro_skunk i know, he should have filled up the cargo area of the defender to keep it fair to the jeeps lesser cargo area

[@KreatorStudios]

Surprisingly, watching the two vehicles drive down the road, I think the Jeep looks better. I always thought the Defender was awesome, but I actually like the Jeep more. Humble opinion.

[@fiveowaf454]

When I lived in the UK I owned a Land Rover Series 3, but always wanted a Jeep, now I live in the USA and own a CJ5 Jeep the one I lusted after as a teenager, I find myself hankering after a Land Rover, I think that's because they are both so iconic and have both been vehicles that influenced me so much in my youth. I guess having one of each would be the answer but Defender prices are outrageous here in the states some are in the G Wagen level, so I doubt I will ever own another and I console myself with memories of the negatives of the LR's to counter my heart that just wants one.

[@Gods_Patriot]

Offroading in south africa would be absolutely awesome. Here in utah we have probably the best offroading the united states has to offer. From moab to the red rocks to the endless rocky mountain trails. But south africa would be a great experience

[@jimbobjones3391]

South Africa is awesome all round, and offers some really spectacular trails, but unfortunately not much public land like you have in the US. Moab and Rubicon Trail is on my list!

[@ThomasAlkaersig]

This is probably the best comparison I have ever seen between the two, and i pretty much agree completely with your conclusions. I passionately love both vehicles so thank you for the great an honest review.

[@davejeep]

Great comparison. I find it a little unfair (bias aside) that the lockers were left out, as you were comparing vehicle to vehicle, not features to features. Not that it really matters because the Jeep won the off road portion anyway, but that small hill climb would have been child's play for any vehicle locked at both ends. As for the gvwr of the jeep, I wouldn't worry about that because if you try to stuff 5 adults in a wrangler, your trip will self destruct before you make it through that first full tank of fuel.

[@justinl9077]

davejeep yep especially since even a Rubicon Wrangler is less expensive than a base Defender, so not testing it with lockers is not fair.

[@masonmethot3186]

It's not an SUV, it's a Jeep...

[@dfcvda]

Chrysler.

[@waltermeono5253]

@@dfcvda Well, Fiat-Chrysler Automobiles makes the best off-roaders in the industry. Period. Greetings from Costa Rica.

[@EvanMoon]

We who like 4x4's, the more the vehicle is awkward and unhappy on the road the more we enjoy it. We just like to smerk at the idea of a vehicle with comfort and style as the main goal instead of one with getting things done as its purpose. This is not unique to serious 4x4 owners, think low riders or street racers, but these 2 off roaders are great examples of vehicles that gladly say "we don't care" to the creature comforts of most vehicles.

[@johnster1964]

At last, a well-informed vehicle analysis. Very well presented - thank-you for uploading.

[@redinight4212]

I drive my Jeep six days a week on my mail route. Blizzards, a foot of fresh snow, down pours, high winds, sand, mud, ice, and hilly gravel roads... I hope it's realiable for years to come. I appreciate that Land Rovers' payload and distance advantage. I would try one if I could afford it, and it was automatic, RHD of course.

[@jerrodcorey25]

Both great vehicles, both LEGENDARY. Both can get the job done with unique strengths and weaknesses. A bit of a let down the Jeep had to be handicapped without the use of its lockers, to make it fair to the Rover. Strictly from an offroad perspective . . . .the Jeep has no equal, easily king of the mountain. Even without the lockers.

[@detsgtrogerson]

I love my JK, but truth is this wasn't a fair comparison as far as the off road element is concerned. Auto V Manual puts the defender at a disadvantage (I own and prefer manual, but fact is auto is better for most off road scenarios, especially those tested here) and probably most importantly, the JK Rubicon 4LO is REALLY low. It's geared for rock crawling, so again the defender is at a disadvantage. Probabaly a more fair comparo would have been a Unlimited sport and the Defender, as the sport doesn't have the diff lock, sway bar disconnect or rock crawling gears of the Rubicon.

[@aram442]

+SilverJK I also own a JK manual but sometimes I really hate the manual gear, its faster its better for open roads, but when it comes to off roading the clutch sometimes brakes or burns tbh dude

[@consaka1]

I applaud you guys for at least using the same tires. Too many comparison videos do not. Question though. Do these vehicles weigh the same? Setting the tire pressures is about percentage of squish. This will change based on weight. The heavier vehicle will need more pressure to have the same percentage of squish. It has been a while but I believe 20% is the target.

[@4xoverland]

+consaka1 True. But being a real world comparison, and not a scientific one, who knows the precise weight of their vehicle and knows the exact 'squish' coefficient at any time? Nobody.

[@consaka1]

4xOverland I know the precise weight of my vehicle. Well close. It hovers around 8000 lbs. I think a real world comparison can be done having as many variables as possible, the same. I mean you guys used the same tires. Its not that hard to compensate for weight. I'd be real curious the weight of both vehicles. I would think the Landrover would be heavier but I have no real experience with either.

[@TheVtxpredatornc]

+consaka1 Yeah, I can't tell you how much my Jeep weighs right now, but when I first got it I did, that's when I calculated the amount of pressure it should have on-road and what it should have off-road. Those are the numbers I memorized and use. I would guess that the Rover weighs in at a 500-1000 lbs more than the Jeep, so if you had both at 30 PSI then the Jeep was at a disadvantage....

[@consaka1]

TheVtxpredatornc That's the best way. Memorizing the right numbers. Curious if both those BFG's were the same size. Jeep looks a bit wider. could be an illusion though because in the picture it is closer.

[@deepbludreams]

+consaka1 Really? a bloody F150 weighs less then that.

[@superfleapilot7484]

Full disclosure. 1) Unapologetic American 2) Jeep owner for over thirty years. First Jeep a CJ5 Willies, newest a JL Unlimited. As I type this there are four Jeeps in my driveway and garage. I’ve used them on road and off, hunting, camping, overland, farming, commuting and wheeling. Love the Landrover and would gladly own one but have yet to find a situation on road or off that my Jeeps couldn’t handle effortlessly. They have also been the most reliable vehicles I’ve owned (that will get some people but it’s been true in my experience) Very well done video, very entertaining and informative. Yes, I did expect the typical UK nose in the air, America, and American auto bashing and I was wrong. Happily so. But I digress. The comments here are interesting. The Jeep and Landrover’s histories are intertwined right from the start. The original Land-rover prototype was a Willies Jeep frame and suspension fitted with an aluminum body after its steel one rusted out. Look it up. It’s the truth. The original WWII 1941 Jeep spanned the globe between 1941 and 1948 when the first Land-rover came off the assembly line. Both vehicles have evolved since then and only become more capable. I thought you were very fair but I didn’t understand why you’d handicap the Jeep by not using the lockers that come standard on the JK Rubicon. I realize that the Rover doesn’t have them, but it doesn’t have descent control either. Given, had you used the lockers the Jeep would have crawled over those rocks effortlessly and may have made for a pretty boring video. But it would demonstrate the real capabilities of the vehicle.

[@danecroft21]

You will be happy to hear that Jeep has moved the subwoofer from the rear passenger side to the floor of the cargo area.

[@MrBelly666]

Only thing I would say about brakes going down hill, using brakes on a hill decent on a muddy/slippery hill is very dangerous, one thing I think could have been mentioned , is on the Land Rover,just like my Nissan GQ patrol, the handbrake is on the tailshaft right behind the gearbox, and on descents, especially muddy ones, is that it's much more safer and more effective to use the engine compression with a little handbrake to reduce the engine running on a little, Otherwise it was a fantastic no gimmick review of two very capable 4x4s

[@ronquin5272]

Thanks for the tip !

[@ofbarea]

Great tip. On slippery down hill I usually engage rear lockers on my defender. That helps to keep the truck aliened.

[@christopherdiperi7561]

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[@Terminxman]

The filming and narration of these videos reminds me of a David Attenborough special...except with vehicles.

[@crashandburnbirner]

But muh reliability... said no landrover owner ever...

[@crashandburnbirner]

***** Sounds about right, or i would rather push my landy than drive your cruiser.

[@crashandburnbirner]

Not many people know that the manufacturer of Land Rovers attempted to market a computer. Why did they stop? The could not find a way to get it to leak oil!

[@crashandburnbirner]

***** yeah, except for my jeeps apparently.

[@crashandburnbirner]

Don't be an ass, Im sure people have had good luck with rovers too.

[@crashandburnbirner]

Yeah there probably is, whats your point?

[@EpiphanyOne2]

Mr. White, 1st things 1st.., A Fantastic comparison (IMO), I was most impressed with your efforts to be "unbiased". Additionally, the "Off Road~ Ascent & Descent testing" was the BEST comparison I've seen this far!

[@chopperchuck]

I know I'm a bit late to the party ,but as a Rubicon owner i have to say you review was spot on the jeep is better off road stock from the factory the defender has more room and for overlanding would be better

[@kansaskid6969]

Without using the Jeeps locking dif's you are not comparing them correctly and saying the Defender is a better road excursion 4x4 because of its ability to trek across Africa is stupid. only .001% of the population uses them for that purpose. If that's your only reason to buy one of these outdated 4x4 makes you in MY opinion a fool. The jeep wins 8 out of 10 categories.

[@4xoverland]

Have you ever considered that Jeeps are sold in countries other than the USA? Have you ever considered that there is a world outside of the USA, that also uses 4x4s? I guess not.

[@davea8957]

Even I understood your comparison and why you did not lock the differential, which was to make it a fair comparison, and even than the Rubicon won that test, so I do not understand the complaint.

[@davea8957]

As a Texan American who lives in a vast off-wheeling region, I do not need all the extras, but if I was to go cross country or cross continent, I will choose a different vehicle and none of these two, but you are right, having owned both vehicle, the defender is more reliable long distance.

[@davea8957]

I had a 72 defender with a Toyota motor that will put them both to shame.

[@MerpSquirrel]

But the defender isn't even sold in the US. Doesn't that means the Jeep wins 10/10 in that case? Just wondering because you did have locking axles on your jeep right? It might have at least been worth showing and testing it. Not saying I disagree with your reasoning in the end, just figure it would be worth comparing.

[@balzarini51]

all we learned today. bfg ko's are antiquated. and open diff suck

[@MrTherealgus]

This is super interesting! really! I loved it and going to watch another "defender vs ... "

[@insomniacryan9916]

I’m personally very happy he decided to do the test without the lockers on the Jeep, it really got to show off how good the traction control on the Wrangler is without them. Sure, it basically made this comparison Defender vs Wrangler Sport, but frankly that’s an apples to apples comparison to make. Same tires and same number of doors, too. It demonstrated completely the Wrangler’s dominance in this kind of thing, while showing off some of the Defenders party pieces I didn’t know about. If there’s another objective Wrangler vs Defender comparison video out there, I haven’t seen it. Good vid.

[@dmwil1]

Great video. I am a Jeep owner and enthusiast, but I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. Cargo and range are the big shortcomings in the Jeep, indeed. In the US, we don't have tracks that are as long as they are in the places you roam, so fuel range is not as big a problem, and neither is resupply. In Australia, however, that would be a huge problem. I'd have to give up some major comforts to carry fuel. I would love to drive and experience a Defender. I've always admired them from afar.

[@markgreen4011]

Great video. Although I understand your reasoning for not engaging the Jeep's locking differential, it's worth pointing out that you're throwing out a great amount of capability by not doing so.

[@4xoverland]

+Mark Green I've almost 40 years driving 4x4s. I understand that. But what would be the point of the Jeep gliding almost effortlessly up the slope while the LR struggled. Not all Wranger style jeeps have lockers. It had to be a fair comparison off road. Any vehicle with lockers is going to be better than one without. Also, with lockers, how good is the Jeep's traction control? We would have no way of telling.

[@anandasene]

+4xOverland Hello, I am using a small Daihatsu old soft top jeep . I want to fix a hood rack . Can you give me an Idea please. [e-mail]

[@markgreen4011]

4xOverland No worries, guy. I enjoyed the side-by-side comparison of capabilities. Being in the US, I don't have any experience with Rovers because they're prohibitively expensive here. It was good to watch a compare/contrast between them.

[@4xoverland]

+Ananda Seneviratne I am only able to reply to questions to 4xOverland.com subscribers and Patreon supporters. Sorry.

[@rangerman375]

+4xOverland I was originally going to go "Why did you bring a Rubicon out, if you're not going to use the Rubicon features?" as the 5 big things a Rubicon brings to the table vs a standard Wrangler are Tcase low range gearing, Differential gearing, Diff locks, Swaybar disconnect, and tire/rim size. But, you went further in your video as how you were using it to do Wrangler vs Defender, not Rubicon vs specific model of Defender... so I can accept that. Having said that, an answer to your question plus an explanation for something in the video: A Rubicon's traction control when you have lockers on is as good as the driver.... as it's disabled. The reason why the Jeep only has fabric door limiters in lieu of solid components to hold a door in place: Jeep doors are designed to be removed for offroad/enjoyment purposes, just as the entire roof is as well. You just unbolt the retainers on the door pins, unplug the cable for each door if you have power windows, and lift up the strap and poof go the doors. I concur on your mud/water being neigh worthless as a test. There's 3 things that end up mattering in either of those, Driver skill, Line, and traction from the tires... Well, 4, fording depth which is generally easily changed by breather extensions and a snorkle, depending on if you want to scuba-truck or not. I still wouldn't mind a Defender, as I had the pleasure of a "sponsorship" to work with 110's for some time in the US Army. Hard to Impossible to get newer ones in the US though, so I enjoy my Rubicon instead :) Good comparison overall!

[@martinsohlberg7521]

Andrew, did you use the sway-bar disconnect on the Jeep?

[@4xoverland]

+Martin sohlberg Yes.

[@troyerich2611]

+4xOverland yeah the sway bar disconnect only comes on the top of the range models. Crazy option even the land cruiser won't come close off-road when the jeep has something like that and lockers std. Loved the video nice work would love to see more jeep stuff from this channel

[@titudoan5108]

+Troy Erich Sway bar disconnects are standard on all JKs. (It's the electronic swaybar disconnect that comes with a Rubicon)

[@troyerich2611]

+Titu Doan I thought you could disconnect the sway bars on any active diff, they could of done it to the defender if they got out with a spanner but no one got time for that. That's why it's so awesome with a rubicon to just push a button and there disconnected.

[@moparmtb360]

+Troy Erich The problem with defenders is that they use radius arm front suspension. It is very restrictive by nature. alot of defender 110's do not even have front sway bars. removing the front sway bar on a solid axle land rover will never yield the results of the jeep wranglers 4 link with panhard rod front suspension. I used to own defenders and now have a Jk Wrangler unlimited. Off road ability is not even comparable. I will never go back.

[@JP-nisu_2]

The best unbiased vehicle comparison made to date. *Maybe I’ve watched this video more times then I should have.

[@erhardt1477]

This is by far, the best comparison video I have seen so far … nice job sir … 👍 Greetings from Germany everybody 👋

[@juketurbo321]

Why did they not use the Jeeps full locking capability?

[@dre04mach]

Because the defender would have looked way, way worse.

[@4xoverland]

correct. What is the point, unless you want the Jeep to look better just because you like Jeeps more than other vehicles? The Jeep is better off road, even without the lockers. Now if I had locked up the Jeep, viewers would have said the test was unfair. This way, it makes the Jeep look EVEN better than it would had I locked up.

[@dre04mach]

4xOverland The point is you're reviewing 2 vehicles. If you're not gonna showcase what the Jeep is truly capable of, what's the point of filling up the LRs tank all the way or trunk all the way?

[@juketurbo321]

dre04mach Agree with you. It is an off road test .use each one's full capability

[@aaronpingel8454]

Juke Turbo si

[@dalushenal]

ive owned a few jeeps, and now i am driving a Rover, and i will give it to the Rover hands down with out comparison the Rover is 1000times better in the snow!!! every jeep ive ever owned was sketchy at best in the snow, the Rover i had never had a single issue!!

[@danielscott9769]

Saint Sugar Britches drives a Disco. HaHaHa

[@hotroddaddy-et4xg]

i live in the 2nd coldest city in the world. jeeps everywhere,, not 1 land rover.they only come out when the snow is gone .tonight it's a balmy -43..plugged in (block heater) with an inline heater (cooling) an extra pan heater (oil pan) a battery blanket,and a fuel heater, the jeep will start easier with just a block heater.

[@edwhite4992]

I’m a Jeep guy and I love to see Jeep challenged. Competition benefits all and I found your review to be very non biased in approach. If I had the money I’d have one of each!

[@Cherrytea558]

Brilliant video. The roasting of both vehicles cracked me up. Both vehicles are amazing.

[@8__D]

So you’re disabling the jeeps unique off-roading equipment so the Land Rover looks better??

[@BigSmartArmed]

No, you fail in comprehension of the test.

[@jwdyna]

Using lockers and sway bar disconnect would have made it no contest. Jeep wins hands down.

[@esteemedenergy]

Jeeps fall apart like legos.

[@stuartmoerdyk6357]

Fantastic!! Thanks Andrew this was a great comparison

[@carpathianoverland]

Great Video! Thank you. My wife and I live in our Jeep full time. I was thinking to swap for a little larger vehicle. My wife says I am crazy. You proved her correct. Thank you. The Jeep will continue to be our home. Rock and Roll!

[@angeloshamus2870]

the 2 door jeep is daddy.....not the 4 door....thats a mom van w a rubicon package

[@traviscoleman3315]

angelo shamus each had their purpose. 4 door out performs two door in certain situations and vise versa

[@angeloshamus2870]

Travis Coleman no sir.....u are very wrong....the four doors wheels from front to back are a longer distance, making it easier to high center it....the extra length also creates more problems fitting around trees on trails....the 2 door jeep is legendary for a reason...putting lockers and dana 44s on one makes it unfair to the competition

[@traviscoleman3315]

angelo shamus if you say so 😊

[@angeloshamus2870]

Travis Coleman well ive only owned 6 jeeps....my cousin currently owns a 2 door 2015 rubicon....so yeah....i did say so....

[@traviscoleman3315]

angelo shamus that's nice. I've owned Jeep's too so... we can agree to disagree.

[@ar1368]

How about the re-sale value? I would much rather have my money invested in a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and get really great re-sale value. I can say that the Land Rover will not retain the re-sale value even close to the Jeep!!!!

[@scottzimmermann5649]

+Rick Riccar this depends on location. my '93 defender 110nas was 40,000usd new, i sold it for 60,000usd in '11, and it just resold for 90,000usd in '14. oops.

[@enja001]

+Scott Zimmermann how ?

[@tylermcneill7998]

You clearly have never tried buying a nice defender at a reasonable price. They sky rocket in value all the time bud.

[@scottzimmermann5649]

+Scott Zimmermann in all honesty though, i always considered it a POS compared to just about any modern mas produced vehicle. put lockers on one, and a G wont touch it for capability. not much will.

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

+Rick Riccar If you overland, or do serious offroading, your car will have zero resale value when you're done with it, no matter which car it is. They get very naggered when you use them for serious offroading.

[@astrogypsy]

As an owner, at one time or another, of numerous Toyotas, and two Jeeps, I can appreciate, without bias, the look of shame and heartbreak at 27:15. Andrew, you're the best.