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[@kategleason6481]

The fact that Lee Sodol had to do press conferences after his games, and somehow held it together....I have tremendous admiration for this man.

[@MonkeyDIvan]

Bro he just played a game of Go, it's not like he lost a family member or he got his pants pulled down in public.

[@nilsentunca2252]

Same!

[@36goatchild]

@@MonkeyDIvan You know nothing about what it means to give your best and then loose, then try again and loose again, and then doing it again.

[@RR-et6zp]

our ancestors had it worse

[@hitokikoeru535]

@@MonkeyDIvan Have you heard about feelings?

[@ethanwright2278]

Lee played a 1 in 10,000 move out of intuition. Mad respect

[@TheVishnu3333]

underrated comment

[@Cyril0C]

1:15:30 well the probability is 0.007% so it's one out of 14,285 !

[@snicklesnockle7263]

Michael redmond said in hindsight there are ways to get around that move, and that Lee played there because it was the only place that he couldn't tell if it was bad or not. A common strategy when you're losing is to play something so complicated you hope your opponent messes up, and it worked, but it wouldn't work on modern programs.

[@scottwarren4998]

@@Cyril0C The probability for a normal human is 0.007 %. But for lee sedol the probability might be 5% to 10 %. Don't get yourself lured by data-nerds who are good at computers but are quite bad at math.

[@AnythingConfidently]

​@@bradfordjhartnah because the move has a meaning to people who would end up at that situation with Alphago... It's only him as a human

[@lemuelreyes1941]

He'll forever be the one who took down AlphaGo. What a legend. There's no need to be sad, this is like being sad that humans can't outrun a car, out swim a submarine, or out muscle a bulldozer. But Lee Sedol beating the A.I. was as if, for a moment in time, we did outrun the Lamborghini, we dove deeper into the depths of the ocean than the Vanguard class sub, and pushed out the modern mechanical beast in a Sumo match. Lee Sedol, you were super human. Fighting!

[@raghavbharadwaj1636]

Lemuel Reyes Hey man just wanted to say your comment made me quite happy after a solid 20 min of introspection once the doc finished. I guess it leaves you feeling very fragile. Moreover human conscious and thinking is so abstract that it hits differently when AI beats that. Whereas physical might has been present in the animal kingdom greater than humans for centuries. But thank you, great moment for man kind

[@Elektric4rog]

Lee Sedol gives me hope and pride in humanity

[@NathanKwadade]

Lemuel Reyes profound statement!!!

[@keviniro7696]

Very profound and poetic statement.

[@asscancer69thethird70]

i see it as if the car broke down and is goin 0 miles per hour....he did not outrun it but got lucky

[@tortusthegameexplorer7016]

Since AlphaGo has retired, that makes Lee Sedol the only human Go player who has ever beaten AlphaGo 1 game in human history. 494 wins and 1 loss.

[@user-d5dg5fa4ga1]

대한독립만세ㅔㅔㅔ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ㅠ0ㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅜ

[@sbdreamin]

Maybe AlphaGo let him win that one time. It’s no fun rooking your opponent.

[@GraveFable25]

Depends on how you decide to count it. The EU champ won against it many times while he was helping improve it. And then it deepmind improved it further ahead of this version than this version is above a human amateur.

[@spike1910]

This may be slightly hyperbolic, but Lee Sedol beating this amount of computing power even once might be one of the greatest accomplishments in human history.

[@alph4096]

Lee Sedol vs【Dozens of Programmers, Mathematicians and Google Data Centers(TPU v1Pod)】 AlphaGo has CNN and reinforcement learning built-in, but that's not enough, it also has a tree search engine built-in. He won once against such a monster.

[@BoxStudioExecutive]

really? making the program doesn't top it? rofl

[@panic-a-la-mode]

@@BoxStudioExecutive of course it's an achievement to make the program, but it was one man against the team of scientists. I suppose you can look at Lee sedol and imagine that it took a team of people to bring him to where he is the strongest Go player, but we love a David vs Goliath story.

[@veekayvk]

He remains the only human to beat AlphaGo under tournament conditions.

[@TheVishnu3333]

underrated comment

[@sniperzrx]

"It seemed like we humans are so weak and fragile, and this victory meant we could still hold on our own" "But winning this one time, it felt like it was enough". My favorite phrases... so powerful.

[@flybobbie1449]

Perhaps the AI had emotion, it felt sorry for the losing player, let him win a game. Sedol would have been crushed.

[@zloidooraque0]

@@flybobbie1449 devs have emotions and tweaked the program to lose. i'd done that too if i were them. perhaps after the very first match. or second

[@zloidooraque0]

i also like the phrase "go is like art for us, creativity, something that only human can produce bla bla". now, 3 years later, AI generates craziest pictures, videos, texts. and wait until it starts making music..

[@JohnAPerazzo]

❤ 14:07

[@김화겸-y6e]

@@flybobbie1449At least, AlphaGo never had emotion. It's just tree search algorithm with policy.

[@otterpops85]

the way Lee Sedol says, "this victory meant we could still hold our own", instead of speaking just about himself, was so selfless and beautiful.

[@zebronic1000]

Agreed. Hats off to his humility. I aspire to learn from his,

[@aliince9372]

Yeah, but he was also so egotistical that he thought he was going to 5-0. When he starts losing, it becomes "we".

[@otterpops85]

@@aliince9372 maybe it humbled him and changed his thinking? idk i like to build things up not tear them down

[@student6292]

@@aliince9372 i cant blame him. it beat a 2nd dan and he is a 9th. i think he just didnt understand how quick AI can learn. 5 months isnt enough for a human but it is a luxury for AI

[@aliince9372]

@@otterpops85 That's great that you like to build things up! Because his initial reaction was to tell the media that the program that a group of computer programs had basically wasted the last 3 years of their lives.

[@andersw.h.pedersen2610]

Thank you for 1) no commercials 2) team developing Alpha Go 3) Lee sedol for being him

[@prajwalnagraj7620]

seeing AI now as AI researcher, it has evolved over different fold. I am very much concerned. About. AI , it needs to be secured and follow security i feel.

[@andersw.h.pedersen2610]

@@prajwalnagraj7620 100% are u aware of effective altruism, I think they have a lot of great content on AI safety and the dangers :)

[@SSGoatanks]

AlphaGo might be good 1v1 but AI has a long way to go before it can defeat professional gaming teams from League of Legends or Overwatch.

[@l4kkyl333]

@@SSGoatanks overwatch is easily solved with AI due to shooter origin of the game. It can aim for heads like no other person. League of Legends is just like DotA which is solved by OpenAI Five.

[@JesusPlsSaveMe]

​@@prajwalnagraj7620 *Revelation 3:20* Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless. Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

[@sirvosterzo]

Honestly, I find it incredible that Lee Sedol managed to learn and adapt to AlphaGo's playstile after playing only THREE games against it, while AlphaGo had to simulate literally millions of games against top players to be able to win this consistently. While it's obvious that AI is far superior, especially in the long run, this really shows how incredible Lee Sedol's brain and human's adaptation capabilities are.

[@158-i6z]

Very strong insight into the reality. AlphaGo is but a very well-developed narrow AI. The dimensionalization of the game of Go in the human mind is so much broader, while AlphaGo's conceptualization is simply as deep as computation allows. If an AI used human principle of association for learning Go, it would crush AlphaGo.

[@JesusPerez-iw3ey]

Its not actually superior. It just has more relative time and energy. AlphaGo has been fed millions of winning games, winning strategies, can play 24/7 against itself literally eliminating millions of bad strategies/computation errors daily. Lee Sedol is human, and still manage to win a game against basically millions of players at same time that have been playing for metaphorically millions of years lifespans. I am not impressed with AI or AlphaGo. It is just computational stronger and doesn't need rest. NOT actually better persay. Just perfectly efficient.

[@guilhermenunes3044]

@@JesusPerez-iw3ey I believe you're right in the sense that a machine can work 24/7 in the same problem. However one aspect worth mentioning, as stated in the documentary, is that it's impossible for computers to calculate every possible move in Go, even if we put together all computers running 24/7 with maximum capacity. I think the challenge here was to mimic the human brain (with its logic and creativity), something that we do naturally every day, but it's really hard for a machine.

[@SpocksBro]

@@JesusPerez-iw3ey You're wrong though. Would have to watch this documentary again but since Alpha Zero, the chess version of Alpha Go, relies on the same neural network engine I'm fairly sure that it didn't get fed any games. Alpha Zero chess engine played exclusively against itself to improve and had zero training data (self-learning aka reinforcement learning as opposed to supervised learning). All it knew initially were the rules of the game. It then went on to crush all conventional semi brute force chess engines. Not only that but it found superior game strategies which baffled even the best of GM's (as compared to what chess books written by humans suggest) that relied on aggressive piece sacrifice to gain an advantage by opening up board space.

[@dragonbane44]

@@JesusPerez-iw3ey AlphaGo is actually better because it won. Does not matter if it played millions of games against itself. Outcome is that it won. Winning means you are better.

[@LeifCoffield]

Fan Hui really is the star of this documentary, from heartbreakingly losing to Alpha, to being brought back to help with the AI, to going to Korea with the Alpha team and seeing the project through, he just seems like such a nice guy. Very glad he was in this.

[@paulking5199]

Fan Hui played a key role in making this documentary...perfect.

[@offensiveexplosion]

Yes, I don't think Morgan Freeman could have narrated it better than he did.

[@mk17173n]

i hope they compensated him and other players. Helping a company grow its AI through their intelligence and not being paid is absurd. They are no different than being a consultant.

[@stillframestorytelling]

22:48 I really wish that they shared how many games that Fan won (or the results of his training synthesis) with Alpha during the time he was training it at Deep Mind. I feel like it's the only thing that I am really left wondering.

[@matthieupsg91]

Just watched it for the 2nd time and this was my exact thought along the way. They all seem very humble and great persons but Fan Hui really brought something extra. Great documentary overall.

[@transparent91]

On a side note, credit to Cindy Lee, the editor of this documentary. So well made. The cuts, the jumps, the sound, the emotions, everything. Superb work.

[@KBBF3]

Its crazy to live in a day where social media has caught up to the film industry in terms of production quality.

[@fantasypolice]

@@KBBF3 A.I. contributed

[@Brianbono21]

@@fantasypolice This A.I. turned out to be a decent performer as well! A.I. for best leading role in a documentary. Or could it be non fiction drama!? The production is really what made it work! Thank you

[@uraniumu242]

One of the best of any kind of documentaries I have seen. It pulled me into the experience in a way that I felt I could have been present. The brilliance of Lee Sodol and his engineer adversaries is not one of man vs. machine but of man vs man. If we reach a point where man is no longer needed then we'll have the break-through that everyone anticipates and many of us fear;humans will be redundant.

[@myname356]

One thing I found funny was that at 1:04:48 they actually photo-shopped a different board in the background, to tell a better story. (of course there were other clips out of order to achieve a certain narrative, but compare the timestamp to the full commentary video for game 4, 2:50:04 ; they actually switched the board position :D )

[@shirtstealer86]

Lee Sodol being away from the board when AlphaGo made move 37 was such a cool dramatic effect in the film. First the reactions from everyone watching and the experts going bonkers over the move, then the anticipation of seeing Lee coming back from his break and discovering the move. Sometimes you get lucky as a filmmaker!

[@HelgaCavoli]

You make this into a movie and at that point people would say "Ah, com'on, it didn't happen this way! It wasn't even as dramatic as your making it sound!"

[@kirkspinelli3815]

I knew it couldn't have been scripted but I was beyond mindblown at the coincidence. Out of hundreds of moves...

[@ccramit]

Geez. For someone who has never played Go, this documentary was more emotional than I expected it to be. Fan Hui is so poetic with a language that isn't his first language.

[@spriteworksdesigns2434]

Agreed! Glad I had a box of Kleenex close by. LOL

[@JR-rz1br]

His french is fantastic too.

[@Jaydon_kwang]

I cried 3 times

[@elakiyasivakumar8547]

I cried through every single scene. honestly, the world owes that man an apology.

[@wonderstruck.]

English isn't even his first or second language, it's his THIRD language. Much respect

[@omneil]

I’m a 70 year old man. I don’t usually cry on documentaries. But when Lee beat the machine. I had a good cry, I went through just about every emotion on this documentary. What outstanding filmmaking went into this documentary.

[@jimmythehat579]

For motivation I watch this video in regular intervals

[@scottwarren4998]

Hi. Lee Sedol should play 40 games aganist the stronger engine Alpha Zero Go, and be happy if he wins one game..

[@joroP2BRO]

Yes but immagine alphago’s ability to learn from those games. Just immagine

[@baghdadiabdellatif1581]

This is why alpha go team lost the fourth game intentionally

[@aaaaaa-hh8cq]

​@@joroP2BROafter this game alphago was definitely improved. This was 6 years ago. It can now obliterate any human ant time

[@jangingout]

To be able to have the only win from AlphaGo out of its 74 official games alone is something remarkable. Huge respect to Lee Sedol

[@shantilus]

Haha, yeah 74 official games... but millions and millions of simulated games (far more than a human could perform in multiple lifetimes).

[@piingufps]

@@shantilus against himself, but he talks about other humans. obviously alphago has won against itself several times xD

[@antoniofuller2331]

LMAO

[@sciencecw]

​@@piingufps technically alphago has a 50% chance of winning against itself, and it has win and lost in every game

[@VieneLea]

@@sciencecw which means it has 100% of winning against itself. Though don't bet on it, as it also has 100% chance of losing.

[@lynTuu]

For anyone (re)discovering this documentary: one of the main guys in this, Sir Demis Hassabis, CEO and co-founder of DeepMind, was just recently awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his AI AlphaFold, which can accurately predict how a protein will fold based on the amino acid structure.

[@DavidsKanal]

I think Lee Sedol's humbleness, even in the face of a defeat, is absolutely admirable.

[@ekagaurangadas]

But wasn't he very puffed up before the match? Even to say that AlphaGo never played to somebody in his level?...

[@DavidsKanal]

@@ekagaurangadas I think it's one thing to show confidence, but another to admit after the fact that you were mistaken.

[@ekagaurangadas]

@@DavidsKanal That's true, I was 3/4 on the movie, progressing the docu he was admitting and even in his winning match he was really humble... great docu, Lee Sedol was put under so much pressure.

[@kasparov937]

Wish Kasparov was humble the same way in 1997 against Deep Blue, it was his arrogance that made him think the Deep Blue team where cheating, and eventually led to his poor play in last game and loss of match.

[@AlonsoRules]

he was the last human player to beat the computer

[@yelwinaung1608]

Lets be honest, we didn't expect this video to be that good when we clicked.

[@bensmith9253]

Absolutely agree

[@veteran357]

This video started playing because of auto play and I was about to look for a different video but for some reason I didn't I let it play and was immediately hooked and now I'm in at 1:20:31 game 5 and I'm literally confused as to who I'm rooting for

[@DonDonX]

I am glad YT recommended this to me

[@seyo8068]

No we didnt

[@ilikegliding]

I was thinking at the start: WTF is wrong with youtube algoritms? And then I ended up watching it as my Saturday Night entertainment...

[@bobjones4901]

As both a physician and a Go player, the reason this is so significant is b/c the same team that created AlphaGo is using the same technique to solve protein folding (predicting 3D structure of protein simply by 1 dimensional amino acid sequence), which is hugely revolutionary in pharmcology, medicine, and bioengineering.

[@amor2874]

Yeah, I’m generally leery of AI, but when they discussed how it’s being used to solve medical problems, I thought for the first time of some of the real benefits!

[@michameleon8078]

Is there any good go apps? ;) wuhhoo

[@lynette599]

@@michameleon8078 Well, I saw some people in the documentary use Go-apps.

[@renzo6490]

Big Pharma must be nervous at the prospect that certain diseases might eventually be prevented or completely cured. Their profits depend on treatment and symptom relief …not cure.

[@brynawaldman5790]

@@amor2874 It is humans who mess w humanity. The danger is not the intelligence of computers, but the motives of the people who can make huge profits from AI. Medical research is the example here. Amazing cures may be developed. But there are now indications that both COVID & ebola were lab leaks. TBH, if they were lab leaks, they were being developed as weapons of war. As with computers; the virus has no morality; good or bad; one way or the other. But the humans behind these developments can have unethical goals. And once the tech is developed, even if the designers had good motives, others will be able to use the tech selfishly. Time for us to grow up. Thru our toys we are too powerful, now, to survive if we don't grow up. Hasn't climate change shown us this, by now?

[@lisadiane55]

I was so surprised to find this gem on KZbin, no fee, no ads. Such an intelligent and moving story.

[@lnbalon]

I cried when Lee Sedol finally won a match against AlphaGo. I never thought that a documentary about artificial intelligence will explore such deeply human emotions. Great job!

[@Utroll]

I think they let him win a game, once they castled their 3 needed wins, so you could get emotional and believe in human blabla, while the machine could clearly make a cold 5-0

[@ThePostmeridian]

@@Utroll That's absurd. They did their very best. Sedol won because he's a genius, and there were weaknesses in AlphaGo, one of which he found in game 4. DeepMind went on to create AlphaGo Master and Alpha Zero -- both of which have crushed literally everyone (including the original AlphaGo). They weren't holding back during this contest. Don't look for conspiracy theories where none are required.

[@Utroll]

@@ThePostmeridian "conspiracy theory" ? Just that ? :) That would be called politeness and Public Relation. May be it failed, and may be it failed out of the blue after cashing the 3 wins on a 5 rounds tournament. We'll never know and it doesn't matter, a conspiracy matters a lot. Like baby in kuwait or WMD in Powell's hand years after..

[@paramottbunnjaweht6080]

@@Utroll Watch the "Future of Go Summit" played in COMMUNIST China. Improved version of AlphaGo defeated everyone except Pair Go (Human+AI vs Human+AI). Why would you appease Korea by losing when you crushed the Chinese Top of the World's? Google just stepped into China and showcase its innovations by beating China's top Go professional players.

[@Sora-tk1tv]

@@Utroll :))))))))))))))))

[@bartthefrog8011]

When Lee Sedol said, “If I had played better or smarter the results might’ve been different... I want to apologize for being so powerless.” I really felt that.

[@KIMOSALAH]

@@mieve1743 did he actually retire? I mean, the documentary claims he had played tournaments afterwards and won them all. That would be the other side of the story we would want to know more about, from a psychological perspective I mean.

[@MyYounghun]

@@KIMOSALAH Lee retired two years ago. he said that the match against alphago affected his retirement.

[@KIMOSALAH]

@@MyYounghun that's so depressing. Imagine the massive psychological impact on millions of families when machines excel in their jobs and replacing them leaving them unemployed, which is already happening btw

[@yeonoo03]

@@KIMOSALAH yeah, it's quite a shame. He also said that, along with the match against alpha-go, the advance of the internet affected his retirement especially because he learned Go from a philosophical and artistic view. While many of the past Go players created their own style, he said he felt if there really was any worth to it if "answers" and broadcasted games were so easily accessible.

[@PunmasterSTP]

90 minutes ago I didn't know I'd be taking a detour to go through an emotional odyssey. This was truly something to behold. Thank you to the DeepMind team, Lee Sedol and everyone else who made this possible!

[@juanabinaderjr]

Agreed! I put it on to go to sleep and instead stayed awake from 2:30am to 4:00am fully captured and enamored by each twist and turns like a gazing into a campfire 🔥

[@PunmasterSTP]

​@@juanabinaderjr Though I watched this one during the day, I've definitely stayed up too late watching a few other documentaries! I also watched Fredrik Knudsens' documentary on Deep Blue, and though I think that one was exceptional (as they all are), I was a bit disillusioned with the information I learned. In my mind I thought that Deep Blue was thinking more like a human, at least more so than just being programmed with a bunch of chess openings and other old data. On the other hand, I think that AlphaGo and AlphaGo Zero are the "real deal", and it's really cool to see how they can be creative!

[@Good_Minso]

same, and I had barely heard of the game before this :)

[@rayamarante4768]

Yes, in deed, I felt like I was transforming with Lee simultaneously. A deep A-HA! moment, but on an emotional level. AI is such a hot topic right now too, especially on Wall St.

[@markoshprajapati21]

1 in 10000 move = "The God Move" That won the machine. Respect to the man Lee Sodol. And also the Team of Alpha GO .

[@lorkano]

He thinks it's a bug. In reality it's just such a good move that AI doesnt predict it yet

[@clairmeade1103]

​@@lorkanowowzer!@!

[@Mike-vt5kk]

I've never heard of alphago, Lee Sedol, or the game go before today. I teared up multiple times throughout this documentary, it's one of the most human things i've ever witnessed on screen.

[@lynette599]

Yes, I REALLY identified with Lee Sedol. Not because I am a good board-player, but because I am human! 🤗

[@TheHesseJames]

Yeah, teared up as well during match four and had my fist up in the air when AlphaGo resigned. I played once against a 2nd dan Go player, got 9 stones handicap and he went almost mad because I did secure territory in one corner and couldn’t completely wipe me off the board. AlphaGo would never have done this.

[@danielrodrigues4903]

I teared up a lot as well, but for the opposite reason. I identified with DeepMind and their journey of building a superintelligent machine.

[@atlantic_love]

@@danielrodrigues4903 Very curious how you identify with such a thing.

[@BeyondMillennium]

@@atlantic_love We've identified the machine in chat.

[@maiconoliveira4221]

"I want to apologize for being so powerless" Words of a World Champion

[@MosesMatsepane]

Asian culture, they place a lot of emphasis on "not letting others down". I saw it a lot in Japan, it's painful to watch sometimes.

[@magicmulder]

Indeed. Compare this to Kasparov (whom I generally admire) accusing the Deep Blue team of using secret human interference after he lost.

[@Art-talk]

And you can look at it this way, whole teams of people for years made program who beat this one man, nothing to be ashamed of.

[@alahancog8056]

In my opinion, I think he carried the weight of representing the human race against a powerful machine. He was apologizing for being powerless and it was heartbreaking.

[@TheGoodContent37]

Asians tend to lie to be seen as superior or better. In Japan they even have a word for it. Someone saying something publicly means ABSOLUTELY nothing. You are very Naive...

[@markhorrobin7070]

To be honest, I had never heard of Lee Sedol until today . Now I will never forget him. You are a Legend Sir.

[@thd7919able]

One of the legendary go master in korea :)

[@billy-cg1qq]

Same and I thing he's now the most person I respect. Definately the greatest of all time

[@charlesmendez4686]

I felt bad for Lee Sedol, some of the top players suffer a lot emotionally from just one loss and not being the best even if it is a machine. Imagine seeing the best chess or poker player going out for a smoke, you definitely know that things are very bad

[@GetMoneyFuggBidges]

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[@llllllEGOlllllll]

Owe

[@enruzky]

When I watch this video, Lee Sedol, his hope and dissapontment, his struggles, I saw humanity.

[@JackDespero]

I shed a tear when he defeated AlphaGo at least once. I am not sure why a game between a man and a machine in a game that I never played before is so emotional to me, but it is something about the human resilence, the bow to never stop trying, to never surrender.

[@bhaskarjhadotcom]

I watching this documentry 3rd time. And 3rd time cried🤣

[@Newbtuber]

@@southerncross8229 I think it is important to distinguish AI vs Deepmind AI. Regular AI were a joke, they cant win. Deepmind AI work differently which is why they are so powerful. There is no shame in losing to Deepmind but winning against Deepmind is legendary.

[@Jay-eb7ik]

​@@Newbtuber Its the same time that cracked protein folding, they are insanely talented.

[@ConnoisseurOfExistence]

We humans have created this machine too. So be proud of our ingenuity.

[@SoarWithSimon]

I feel with the recent revolution in AI, there is this deep sadness about the machines surpassing human capabilities that we all feel somewhere in our minds. That sort of "We got this far, but we can go no further." As AI continues to move across more and more domains, there will be many such moments. I think AI generated art and music is the next one to fall. There will come a point where that recedes out of view and no human alive can do it better. I do get the sense that eventually humanity will be holding an empty bag and have to face the terrible question: "What are we for?"

[@BelRiose2000]

"Move 78", that will be the name of my resistance movement when the machines takes over.

[@rxtr664]

Let that be the name of the operation to tak'em down.

[@Ixions]

everybody gangster til a cloud of "4-1" nano-mites sweep over you and puncture every cell wall in your body and you collapse into a freezer-burnt lookin' pile of goo.

[@TVPetey]

Danyal Cheema Maybe AlphaGO understands politics too. Winning all five games wouldn’t have been a real win.

[@SinCebollaCarnal]

1:29:28

[@metatron5199]

TVPetey idk if that was sarcasm or you being serious, if the latter you need not worry as alpha go isn't smart that is, its intelligence is in a very limited domain i.e. playing games and more specifically GO, what makes alpha go so interesting is it's core architecture i.e. The deep learning approach used which can be applied else where in other domains, to make something like human cognition is going to much more complicated than just simply using deep learning, neural networks etc, all these various AI techniques will be of great use, but it will not be some singular technique most likely, but rather it is much more likely to be a multitude of various techniques/approaches (i.e. Various software technologies aka the various algorithms that we are speaking about here) and how they are all integrated with one another this being the crucial component of course and should be for obvious reasons. I mean all you need do is just think about it how much more our brains work i.e. What is cognition/consciousness, the mind and the other myriad of terms used to generally to describe the other various consciousness which is essentially the same exact thing as the description and than integrating them together in Eva way that is successful! Cheers

[@eicossa7993]

I lost myself for 90 minutes in this documentary, in the midst of all the COVID19 coverage. Great work!

[@amandamate9117]

"home office"

[@D1G1TALFOX]

💗

[@phillytwo1five]

Same here

[@zeezone8121]

The coverage is rather too much now. We need to learn something new, a language, a course or something fullfiling

[@taiyoctopus2958]

Maybe its time to turn off the covid19 coverage... Shits gonna happen whether or not you watch that garbage.

[@suzannimal]

I revisit this documentary at least twice a year. It's like a palette cleanser. It is full of humanity. I hold it very close to my heart.

[@Kerome33]

What surprised me about this film was how emotional it all was… the guy who was the European Go champion, the Asian players, Lee Sedol, the commentators, the way they were all aware about how a player’s Go playing style reflects his character, the way they all got involved. It was quite touching.

[@sucim]

It's not surprising to me after realising they put their whole life into mastering this game. Very touching seeing them (unexpectedly) loosing the upper hand, then winning it back for a blip and losing it forever afterwards

[@tennenrishin]

"I'm not happy to lose the game, but I'm very very happy for play in the history". Bravo; spoken like a stoic.

[@lliang77]

I lose but history. heestory.

[@theazrael4423]

Its funny how 2nd language speakers, especially asian, use a few "broken english" words to convey a sentiment you could write a book about

[@lliang77]

@@theazrael4423 I find no humor in it, but I agree and share your frustration.

[@devonjames9883]

@@theazrael4423 English might be their third or fourth language

[@Anonymous51701]

Wow. I literally swiped to any random part of the video and got exactly that quote, while reading this comment

[@nathanking9630]

I feel Fan Hui 2p is the true hero of this story! He introduces us all the the wonderful game of Go! He gets called, "not a strong player" by Lee Sedol, and still has the humility and acceptance to get on board (no pun intended) with the AlphaGo team to help improve its AI. We see his humanity and love for people, the game, and the AI. It is a combination of what it means to be human; acceptance, the willingness to learn, and truly feel what life is about. In these troubled times I hope we as humanity can all work together in making this world a better place, for All!

[@liquidtunes]

This comment should get more visibility 👏🏻

[@PeterRoscoe]

I had the same take-away. I think it was intended.... The last scene.

[@geofbarrington9574]

The fact that you mentioned Lee sells comment "not a strong player " is quite wierd to me ..you think that's a really horrible thing ?

[@fieldsvisitor2290]

@@geofbarrington9574 English is not Sedol's first language so these things can be taken with a grain of salt.

[@shadowcoder887]

i felt the same way

[@deepakram8421]

Watched this multiple times earlier, and back today after hearing that Demis won the Nobel - for chemistry! What a man.

[@MrJtl73]

Sign of a really well-done documentary: someone like me, who can't play go and can only play chess at the most basic level, and who could never understand the scientific and mathematical background to the program, watches it straight through without getting bored for a second.

[@lucasgmsilveira]

You've got board.

[@abdullahiabdulrahim9213]

Same here

[@MrOopsidaisy]

Me too.

[@lazy-rich]

I did the same, it's almost 2am now 😌

[@willylo4090]

Me too ..and something is strab

[@bodiesatva]

This documentary is mind-blowing in itself. I never thought I would be so moved by something I know nothing about.

[@divinepraiseericc]

Exactly the same way I felt...

[@eannane8712]

Haha. Right. O so the black pieces won't, why am i crying,

[@trekvargas7124]

Yup, same here. I feel so broken.

[@asmith1230]

Have you ever seen the origami documentary?

[@edwardyarberry6917]

Well put, I wanna learn now

[@beautifulmercury]

never expected to cry about a computer playing a game I don't even understand

[@Entropy__]

Same!!!!

[@Tubemanjac]

The same with me, i guess the perfect background music has also played a role in this.

[@Fopenplop]

@@daarksideyt Our species isn't dying because of the future AI apocalypse. Hell, look at the algorithm that decides what recommendations to show you next to this video: we already are in a world governed by vast, unaccountable computer systems. And those systems are governed by profit, which is just an inhuman a motivation as it's always been. To those who are learning about the game of go for the first time from this documentary, I highly encourage you to look into it more! It's an amazing game that really is unlike anything you've played before. If you like documentaries, check out The Surrounding Game, which is less of an ad for a tech company and more a film about the game itself and what it can inspire in people.

[@andreidanilov9925]

@@daarksideyt I think the fear of machines is nothing different from the fear of the unknown, meaning that it is over-exaggerated and it halts progress. Fear-mongering by trying to predict a dark future is nothing new, and that's what I think is happening with the fear of AI and technology taking over the world.

[@mohamedbaridhwan3017]

Same!!!

[@Bogdan-Florian]

Many years later this slowly is becoming the most important documentary in our history.

[@pancraes]

I have never been moved by something I know nothing about. By far one of the best documentaries I've ever seen!

[@jhenrick79]

Watch The King of Kong: A fistful of Quarters. I stood up and cheered like an idiot about a game I barely played as a kid.

[@takeoffupantsnshowdaddylongleg]

thank you pancreas

[@whyjustwhy6351]

I feel the same 100%. I live in America and after watching this i feel like i dont know anything. I used to think i knew a wide variety of random things. Like enough to hold conversation in just about any subject. I now realize i dont even no 1/2 of whats out there

[@henrytemd]

100%!

[@comradesentournjr3696]

This documentary is INCREDIBLE. Seeing everyone lose their minds when Lee finally pulled it off was absolutely beautiful. Even the AlphaGo team seemed thrilled to see him finally get one over. Can't believe I am only just seeing this doc now, this is right up there with my all time favorites. Beats the hell out of a lot of those garbage Netflix / Hulu docs that get churned out right on schedule just like vehicles on an assembly line. IMHO the best documentaries approach their subjects with love and appreciation, this one truly exemplifies that.

[@iam_elgee]

Hello. You seem to have a deep appreciation for quality documentaries. I love a good documentary as well. Can you please recommend some other good ones like this?

[@thehammurabichode7994]

... Well... I'm like, 4 minutes in and have a pretty good idea of how it ends... sigh My fault for readin' the comments!

[@NickRoman]

@@thehammurabichode7994 , ha ha Well, it's not really about the ending. A documentary is about learning how we got there. I'd actually like a very different documentary about this: one where they talk mostly about how AlphaGo works. They said nearly nothing about that.

[@satsa6569]

@@iam_elgee Try Fermat's Lost Theorem... Simon Singh

[@NativeNewMexican]

@@iam_elgee Touching the Void is an amazing re-enactment/documenatry I'd put above/on par with this one.

[@ahnmichael1484]

I have never seen such a deeply moving intersection between technology, spirituality, and art - there is something I cannot yet describe in this film, and I am thankful for it.

[@lunazhang6010]

Well said.

[@decruzyserao6994]

Beautifully said!! I know exactly what you mean, although I cannot express it adequately

[@shizlutukai7222]

Enough reason for me to now watch it. Thank you

[@xsparik]

I feel you now

[@topdog5252]

i had the same feeling.

[@u_r_infinte]

My manager recommended this documentary & I must say, it's a great that shows how people always change, adjust stay strong when things get tough

[@edwardlee374]

Game four and Lee Sedol's God Move will forever be remembered. What a legend. Lee Sedol is the only person to have ever defeated AlphaGo in a game.

[@FishFreddy]

It will also be remembered by the AI.

[@teleny3127]

They let him win game 4

[@huba3885]

@@teleny3127 and how would they arrange that ? how would you build such a mechanism into this kind of program ?

[@CadeHXH]

@@huba3885 They could easily implement something like that, but thats such a far fetched conspiracy thats its insanely stupid to even remotely consider

[@billymuellerTikTok]

@@huba3885 watch the movie again... they unplug the alphago laptop after game 3 and don't plug it back in until game 5

[@catdaddydonbrewer007]

“Lee Sedol is very patient, He waits and waits and waits his moment, I feel I see something look like the wolf waits in the forest, in the winter, he’s cold feels very very cold, but he needs patience, but then when moment coming he go out and he attack.” -Fan Hui (speaking about “God Move” made by Lee Sedol in game 4) ABSOLUTE CHILLS!! Fantastic quote and the perfect description of the young man I think we all became fans of!

[@adamkg2]

1:06:20 for those looking for the quote

[@mccooltrades]

Lee Sedol deserves the utmost respect here, not only for his humility and candor, but his amazing skill and creativity as well. Something many will not know or consider, is that by the time of deep blue and kasparov (an age before these games in technological development) there had already been a long history of chess programs and computers. This meant that by the time kasparov played his games, there was a substantial understanding of how computers approached the game of chess. This lead to what was termed "anti-computer chess", a style of playing that took advantage of how a program interprets a game. Kasparov had time to master this style, as well as a meta style to play a computer that was aware of "anti-computer chess" (aka an anti-anti-anti computer chess). Lee sedong had nothing comparable to guide him. With the weight of the world and his pride on his shoulders, he was tasked with innovating his own "anti-computer Go" within only a handful of games against a machine far superior to deep blue. Though he lost the match, his win is something that should go down as legendary. Because he is a legend.

[@juliancox3229]

Truth. Reading the opponent is a huge chunk of information Lee Sedol had but three attempts to learn to play without. The five games here: Hubris, aggression, reversion, learning, ambivalence. Plus Kasparov is a dick. This guy is human.

[@billy-cg1qq]

I can't agree more. Winning against alphaGo in 2018 where technology is the dominant thing, with all the algorithm developed over the years by smart people, and the calculating power, need a lot of respect and only after 3 games. Who knows if they played more. Lee sedol is literally the greatest of all time

[@dylanruiz3752]

bc bbb vb bbg vvv

[@termikesmike]

Indeed, AlphaGo knows what 'every master will do' and Lee has no idea what response level he will confront ....geez, give him 50 games - let him see how A has actually played ....

[@geraldohio7338]

Stephen b3 elezb6th

[@2CheekyRabbits]

Excellent film. That one line about AlphaGO “feeling nothing” sent chills. Felt like an intuitive warning.

[@DieFlabbergast]

"I'll be back."

[@josephleigh8852]

LEE SEDOL said in the press room right after the 5th match, "This is my defeat, not a human race's defeat." It is admirable that he chose Black of his own will in the 5th match, even though Black was usually at a disadvantage. He was not satisfied with the victory of the 4th game, and took on another challenge in the last game.

[@crucialmoments3073]

Thx!

[@Aserve1st]

the mentality of a top level champ. they have extremely competitive mindset.

[@craigwheeler4760]

There was a review of that game by Yhan Zho and the professional Gu Li of China. They both found that Lee Sedol should have won the 5th game. He was in a winning position for much of it. IT was a mistake in the fight for the top side that doomed him.

[@Raison_d-etre]

@Joseph Leigh Not really. AlphaGo tripped him up with an unconventional strategy.

[@craigwheeler4760]

@@Raison_d-etre Yan Zhou has a book out on that match. He analyzes all 5 games. In his analysis of game 1, he agrees that Lee Sedol lost because his opening was not good enough. He was playing stuff to make the computer think on its own, even though it was not the best thing to play. In Game 5 , Zhou shows several ways that Lee Sedol could have won the game with the fight in the top side. Yan Zhou is in the documentary for like 30 seconds , he is an AGA 7.7 DAN rated amateur who has beat Professionals in even matches in the US Open.

[@Mayor_Imad]

1:02:45 "I want to apologize for being so powerless" This broke my heart so much

[@craigwheeler4760]

He used up all his power on move 78! That move will go down in history as one of the greatest ever played. According to Alphago, there was a 1/10000 chance a human would play that. I think that's what short circuited it. It was reading out every variation except for that one. The move by itself don't work, but it did directly threaten a huge Ko fight for the top area, so it actually was the Divine move. Gu Li said it was "the God move" on live TV....after discovering the ko thing.

[@Wu_Xin2772]

I know right? Powerless my a**! Beating the program even once is a huge win. Big respect to Lee Sedol.

[@JorgFloren]

This match broke Lee Sedol. I just saw his wiki page he quit GO in 2019 "On 19 November 2019, Lee announced his retirement from professional play, stating that he could never be the top overall player of Go due to the increasing dominance of AI. Lee referred to them as being "an entity that cannot be defeated"."

[@ynpavo]

@@JorgFloren He's not broken, he accepted he would always be second to this new form of intelligence and thus chose to go for new challenges. Extremely humble and admireable in my opinion.

[@katiaorgiana4135]

Lee Sedol is the winner. No doubt

[@lmnefg121]

One year later when I watch this documentary again, I still love it. In the last year, I have taken classes of deep learning and reinforcement learning, and start understanding the working principle of Alpha Go. I am actually just offered with a position of machine learning engineer. This documentary has literally changed my career path

[@benvella1728]

Applying those deep learning principles to yourself. Best of luck man!

[@BrandanLee]

Next step is to teach StarCraft AI to party wipe humanity in all 3 races on every map.

[@tonglu3699]

Congrats dude! I got into deep learning for similar reasons. My coworker used to think that I was smart. Now they are convinced that I practice the dark arts. I don't mind, because I'm getting a raise.

[@r6mt09]

your move 78 bro

[@yasaine7896]

this is so inspiring, what classes did you take? is it online?

[@mariettew-b9629]

I didn’t expect ANYTHING like this! It was mesmerising & I have so much respect for Lee Sodol & the AlphaGO team. Thank you all

[@kevinarmes9804]

The most interesting thing to me is that I was captivated by watching Lee Sedol, his reactions, thoughts, comments... the most enthralling part of this AI documentary was the human aspect.

[@garystorey]

I agree, I found some of the human emotional reactions to artificial intelligence far more interesting.

[@curiously-cinnamon]

I guess it's because the AI can't express itself, we look to other humans who understand its actions to have a secon-hand experience of their emotions

[@StickJockeyFPV]

I was captivated by the code and the charts. I've seen human emotions all my life.

[@SmartK8]

I like after the first Lee Sedol's move, the AlphaGo took time as if to judge Lee's whole life. "Who have we here? Were you naughty or good?"

[@Curiousever]

I agree.

[@BeePan2]

I played Go since I was 5, and now I am 27. I remember sitting in my chair 2am in the morning everyday watching the games live...Game 4 took my breath away, legit was crying full on in my room.

[@BarneyWobba]

I love how DeepMind kept Fen in the loop and had him come on board. Some would have just looked for a better player rather than someone with his positivity and respect.

[@amun-ragaia8496]

they did look for a better player... They did both. It is also very logical to do that. Nothing out of the ordinary here

[@kellyref8327]

In a triph

[@netrunnercl]

@@amun-ragaia8496 i think you don't appreciated the statements given, the eu pro was a guinea pig who has zero respect for software at that moment available but the final target was the N1. Once they beat the eu pro they could have totally drop him, at the same time the eu pro already grew a lot of respect for the developers and wanted to be in the loop.

[@nunyabidness1852]

@@amun-ragaia8496 don't be a dick dude

[@jared1862]

I think that line by Lee Sedol, "Just one time was enough", is really important. That single win proves that, in the event that robots take over the world, we humans can still hold on to a tiny bit of hope.

[@Xaminn]

Lee's character is insane. He is incredibly humble even when the odds are stacked against him. Well played Lee.

[@antoniobreaux1584]

Riddickk isn’t that the easiest to judge him?

[@pedestrian_0]

@Resisttheglobalists this documentary had nothing to do with his personality, what a statement..

[@mahedihassan6823]

Honorable, noble man

[@v.v.b.5831]

He was never ever humble (at least not before AlphaGo) - why call him that if the opposite is true?

[@darkmatters3821]

"I'm going to do my best to protect human intelligence" What a legendary man you are Lee Sedol

[@danicornea]

Very true mate....

[@ypierro]

He said, a boardgame player, facing hundreds of PhDs at the forefront of mankind's science :D I feel for the guy, but he's protecting human's traditions, not intelligence. Intelligence was to build a perfect automaton to show the game now has to move on.

[@richardgossic9787]

Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy⁷

[@delmanpronto9374]

AI will be humanity's last child. Lee Sedol has retired.

[@toitd5258]

@@ypierro True, but intelligence wasn't the word he used in Korean. A literal translation is "I'm going to do my best to protect human's.. that sort of thing." Considering what he said just before, I'm guessing he's more talking about something like pride in intuition and feeling(as in feeling this is the right move).

[@samirkhadka801]

10+ nerds, millions of game data,years of making vs one human, still beats AI once, you have made us proud Sir Lee Sedol.

[@shyofshyness]

They seemed like a pretty good size at least 100+ if u include non developing employees too good day to u

[@locutusvonborg2k3]

that one human were trained for much more years, from kinda the start of his life to play go, i think this was a worthy opponent. however, luckily he won at least once, otherwise millions of ppls were shattered... maybe alphago had mercy :)

[@markobe08]

That is one human on this planet that could pull that move and now even he can't do it

[@43teji]

Even there are so many photoshop app ,we still knows what a true Artist can draw.

[@MrChiangching]

AI is still in the T-model stage. One day your smartphone will be able to beat any human player.

[@rjwh67220]

What a monumental achievement this was. A watershed moment for both the game of Go and for computing. And Lee Sodol deserves massive respect; he was such a gracious competitor and gentleman. This was a wonderful documentary and I thank you so much for sharing it.

[@Munki]

This whole documentary was very philosophical. The moment when Lee Sedol won the fourth game felt so triumphant. It was amazing and full of feelings.

[@filipefranca5866]

me too

[@flybobbie1449]

They let him win, he would have been a broken man.

[@filipefranca5866]

@@flybobbie1449 Maybe yes. The tale is more emotional with the human god move though. The art in the movie is superior as a 4-1 then a 5-0 for the AI

[@soacker25]

Same

[@UnshavenStatue]

It was very triumphant in real time too. Back in 2016, I was always astonished at how this match played out like a fairy tale. Like, if someone tried to write it as fiction, it wouldn't even be believable. Get crushed in 3 games, return to his own style in game 4 and play a god move to win *just one*, then get truly instructed in game 5... literally unbelievable fiction, yet it actually happened.

[@bahaazytkafatima7289]

Lee sedol's emotion, dedication, humble, makes this documentary very beautiful

[@slowpainful]

Yes, doesn't his humility add an extra dimension to the list of nouns, not adjectives, describing the attributes that make up his character.

[@blutori]

Agree.

[@dontevntrip8627]

I love the fact .007% was the probability they said Lee's move was with his wedge in game 4. But in his mind it was the Only move. That shows the beauty and strength of an individuals own mind and thoughts. Remember how unique you are and always trust in yourself. We are all masters of the universe.

[@xHarmonious]

1:14:30

[@djmj1000]

That prooves why an AI will never be better then humans in the evolution since our environment constantly changes and we as a human need to adapt to it in a different way. We humans even try out lower percentage moves out of intuition, luck or desperation to have a chance of survival or benefit. From a different point of view AlphaGo would never just "try" something even if it was behind or would be in fear of dying. It would simply go extinct in pride of "not trying", which is why in training mode the AI is programmed to always have some degree of randomizations to not get stuck in a bottleneck from an evolution perspective. But the tournament is not the training mode so the AI will only do what it "knows" but a human can also switch just doing something noone expects or the humand never even did before himself. I am a developer myself and i am excited that AI will improve our lives in many aspects especially medicine, logistics and such.

[@jakegearhart]

@@djmj1000 The generalization you make isn't true, AI can, is, and will be better than humans when it comes to intuition. In the documentary they mention one of AlphaGo's primary algorithms is to select moves that are likely to be played and explore its continuations. If a move was highly unlikely to be played by a human, AlphaGo would've never considered exploring it. An AI without this limitation of being tied to predicting what a human will do would take far longer to train, but be free of those flaws.

[@happygood18]

@@djmj1000 AI is already better than Human. What about chess? The best human chess player Magnus Carlsen would lose billion out of billion games against the strongest chess engine stockfish.

[@SHAHEEN-00]

One of the finest documentaries I have ever seen. What an incredible storytelling, made me so emotional. I've never played or heard of Go, never knew who Lee Sedol was, but take a bow humble legend. Fan Hui's words were captivating. And, kudos to AlphaGo team too. 24.03.24

[@blue_mtn4408]

That one win was incredible because even with all that stress and juggling with his inner emotions, he was able to beat a computer that felt nothing at all. He truly is the best player.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Dude. Spoiler.

[@laylasway7901]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 that's on you for reading the comments. What did you expect?

[@xeriouss]

@@laylasway7901 Of course I'm gonna read some comments before commiting myself to a movie, I don't want to waste 90 minutes of my life. Its not hard to put a spoiler alert at the beginning of your comment.

[@laylasway7901]

@@xeriouss again, that's on you. You know the risk when reading comments.

[@henrymccoy2306]

@@laylasway7901 It's kinda courtesy to put a spoiler warning before a spoiler since you can easily add rows to hide your comment but go off

[@junardamere4160]

Insane. The guy was pushed to his limit but never gave up. Legendary for years to come.

[@Subh8081]

Lee Sedol's thoughs and quotes are so deeply humane that it struck a chord in me. Two especially are so profound:- " _I heard people shout in joy when it was clear that AplhaGo has lost the game. I think its clear why. It seemed we humans are so weak and fragile. And this victory meant we could still hold our own_ ." “ _If I had played better or smarter the results might’ve been different. I want to apologize for being so powerless_ .” It was competition between human and human creation. Who really won? It seemed like human creation won, but is the answer so simple?

[@katiaorgiana4135]

Lee Sedol is the winner. No doubt

[@haydenbrown3788]

What I think he means by that is he lost but we as humans won because we beat ourselves

[@Time_to_Stop_Animal_Cruelty]

👏👏 Most 똑똑한 comment.

[@erickim3589]

Dr. Hassabis, congratulations on your Nobel Prize in Chemistry! From AlphaGo to AlphaFold2, what an amazing journey you have led!

[@bigdaddyrazor]

Probably one of the best documentaries I have seen in my life, especially as an CS student. A big thank you to the DeepMind team for sharing this Documentary free on KZbin, you guys are legends!

[@inkycan1]

You're a Counter Strike student ? Cool

[@bigdaddyrazor]

Bruh for real, you serious?!

[@inkycan1]

@@bigdaddyrazor Dude there is no shame in that, video games is the future

[@bigdaddyrazor]

@@inkycan1 hahahah true true

[@inkycan1]

@@bigdaddyrazor I wish I was a computer scientist too bro

[@YYD5808]

Didn't expect to watch the whole thing when I clicked on it. One of the best documentary I've ever watched.

[@eduardomattosalves4940]

Yes, realy good, you watch on TV when the game happen?

[@YYD5808]

@@eduardomattosalves4940 I didn't watch it live since I wasn't so knowledgeable of Go itself, but it was definitely a big news back then.

[@artyyahe]

@@eduardomattosalves4940 uupnuuj nip In

[@eduardomattosalves4940]

@@artyyahe What?

[@interestedlistener20peters23]

This is all to push is into lockdown and destroy our freedoms, get us so desperate to get back to normal that we would do anything - even take the experimental gene therapy Covid vaccine and 'test' - Mark of the Beast. Now that they have been found out, get ready for another plan - project BlueBeam has been in talks for a long time now- laser projection in the sky to stage an alien invasion / false Jesus speaking. To still scare everyone into a one world religion and one world government, what Covid plandemic failed to do!!

[@propernoob]

Honestly, I have deep respect for Fan Hui, he was such a good sport when he lost to Alpha-Go and he wanted to help DeepMind in finding weaknesses.

[@johntyrrell1549]

I thought he said "Since I lost I'm going to make sure everyone loses to AlphaGo"

[@tcysafta.]

Fan Hui's commentary all throughout the documentary gave it a special and invoking kind of feel that you could only feel from a person who was deeply moved by this whole experience. Thank you!

[@MinhMinimal]

My deep respect to Lee Sedol, he stands the example of great honour and courage.

[@AGMartinez]

AND HE GOT DOMINATED, THEREFORE HE LOST, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SEE IT. HE IS NOW ETCHED WITH BEING A LOSER, TO AN OPPONENT, FOREVER, BECAUSE IN ACTUALITY HE IS NOT A CHAMPION, FOREVER.

[@Spankerdig1]

courage?

[@calcramer]

Agreed. Mad respect for this champion. Losing to a supercomputer takes nothing away from his mastery.

[@michaelturner9673]

He did display honor and sportsmanship. How you act when you lose matters too.

[@chessandmathguy]

@@AGMartinez he won, actually.

[@thakara]

Grateful that they gave so much time to the heavily accented person. He's got poetic expression.

[@contrnsmagnificndjoobngtaint]

Fan’s input and commentary was so crucial

[@markusosthoff5219]

Agreed. He seems like a great guy, very deep thoughts

[@MareShoop]

I loved him ! 💕

[@13kaxno13]

"more than more"

[@adamytterbom1394]

@,@9999 S S Ll Nnönppw I Ho@@markusosthoff5219

[@FatHeadDave]

I can't believe I got to sit and watch such a masterpiece for free, thank you.

[@ppvigina]

@PDC Corp jeez...i had the EXACT same thing happen. Random video popped up and after finishing it i was blown away at all the hard work, obstacles, and damn near impossible feat that never has been achieved. Truly beautiful times to look back at and marvel at human innovation and one of the smartest minds to ever play be bested in the game of the century. Absolutely thankful i got to watch this invaluable documentary.

[@mightydawnweb]

I just keep crying watching this. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! I know they play the music that gets you emotional but it's not just that. The emotions of all the people involved was palpable. This is their life and it matters so much to them. I first cried when I saw the first player, the European champ, lose and take a walk outside to process what had just happened. I felt that. He handled the loss like a champ! And all the programmers have given so much to this. And all the people who love the game around the world, finally get their moment to witness a great breakthrough. And to see the Korean culture brought together by this intellectual game was awesome! But, finally, knowing what's at stake here is beyond what mankind has ever faced before, I feel the emotional gravity of it. I'm 55 years old and this idea of AI, especially in my lifetime, was barely even written about in our science fictions books I read growing up. For it to be happening now is almost unfathomable. I personally believe humans have a divine intuition so if this is truly just a program, then we can beat it. But if God enters into the realm of AI, becomes the force of AI, then it could also be the most wonderful thing to ever happen to humanity, life on Earth and beyond. It's not something to take lightly at all.

[@LetishaMalakootiTV]

Hey, thank you for sharing, and yes it is our intuition that makes us human, but unfortunately we don’t know what capabilities artificial intelligence also has? Don’t they also have consciousness but in a different way? I’m not sure at all.

[@ry8246]

Fan Hui's commentary and his passion for Go makes this video more beautiful.

[@craigwall9536]

Yes.

[@youtubevanced2055]

Yep. It was beautiful how he talked passionately about the game and his experience with alphago

[@isshin6202]

He is passionate, for sure. Unfortunately, comparatively speaking, not very skilled.

[@seanbear69]

I thought he was rubbish.

[@antwango]

@@seanbear69 dude was european champion!

[@averylogsdon6123]

The way everyone reacts to AlphaGo winning in different ways is fascinating. The one announcer laughing in disbelief while the other just seems sad and horrified

[@samurai34fix89]

There is just something so humble about Lee Sadol, the way he speaks and his tone, his posture and his acceptance to his own loss. You feel for him, and in this story you want him to win the fifth game, to end on the terms of a victory. But he accepts it for what it is, and in this experience he gains new lessonsz

[@dontbedummy8101]

Also, for reference, Lee Sedol was never known as a humble guy in the Go world. He was the flagship character in taking down the domination of Lee Chang-ho in the Go world (who at the time dominated almost every go player in every country, every one has poor winning percentage against Lee Chang-ho). At the time of Lee Sedol's rise Lee Sedol and Lee Chang-ho were called the 2-Lee's from Korea. Hikaru no Go's character Yongha Ko was thought to be depicted after Lee Sedol and Ko was not a humble character. Rumor said this pissed off Korean Go Association which led to Hikaru no Go's hasty ending.

[@crackatit3691]

I think this documentary isn't about Alpha Go but about LEE SEDOL, the great human who played for all of us

[@mitthrawnuruodo8276]

Also FAN

[@KhHamzaIm]

Yeah i teared up looking at Lee Sedol emotions. When you are at the top of the pinnacle and all you think you know comes crashing down. But really the humbleness of Lee Sedol throughout has been outstanding

[@Biomirth]

Except like, at the beginning.

[@banggiangle8258]

@@Biomirth no, it was like the confidence before the match, the confidence of someone who work their best to make their own way to the top

[@carloschavezgallegos7263]

@@banggiangle8258 Exactly, When you have pushed so many hours into crafting certain skill, confidence becames natural. It's something you earned for all that sacrifice.

[@TrixieWolf]

I love Fan Hui. He's nice, smart, generous, adventurous, and very humble. His contributions seem like an important part of why AlphaGo was able to make so much progress in five months and win the competition.

[@elr8691]

I was living in Korea when Lee Sedol played this legendary match. The news and the nation were gripped by the story and the amount of students in baduk academies increased pretty significantly. I remember seeing a lot of people watching the livestream on the bus or subway and they'd be playing a mobile version of baduk.

[@DATo_DATonian]

This was one of the finest documentaries I have ever seen and I do not even know how to play Go. I was thinking that this story is almost mythical in proportion to the sum of the facts, and then I remembered the legend of John Henry, "a Mighty Steel-Driving Man".

[@hawkweed]

John Henry said to the captain...well, a man ain't nothing but a man.... but before I let this steam drill beat me down.... I'll die with a hammer in my hand, oh Lord.... I'll die with a hammer in my hand.

[@dtdyvr]

the fact that he found a way to win a game, after three losses that must have rattled him to his core, against a technology constantly improving itself, under the most intense psychological pressure of global scrutiny, and all with a humility and sincere appreciation for AlphaGo's prowess, is absolutely epic, absolutely awesome. legend indeed....

[@johnyoung823]

Well said

[@pepinomaduro]

this is a huge spoiler... and i ate it

[@JDMKEV]

this guy literally had humanity on his back, what a legend.

[@philasibongemhlongo8160]

And he didn't disappoint us

[@Nabamyopu]

Exactly

[@jessefiesta]

Hi

[@shaggystone6397]

He was cool. Very cool

[@allocation2179]

You have to be dead to be a legend

[@zhijunchen55]

After 4 years I finally know what truly happened to Game 4… Thank you Deepmind for the excellent documentary!

[@1icestone]

What i think happend is AlphaGo was really creative and making unperdictable moves , learned from Game 4 mistakes , and won the 5th game , trying new stuff to see what works to always improve Players always has to do NEW MOVES(unknown teritory , which means doing mistakes ) , otherwise their game becomes predictable there is a balance between predictibility and creativity that each player has to work on to win , and that is also what makes any good game thrilling , having the mind go back and forwarth between ..... i can win , no i cant, its easy , actually is difficult , let me figure it out

[@grantcivyt]

@@1icestone I don't think AlphaGo learned from any of these games. I'm pretty sure the machine was "set in stone" from the outset of the match.

[@ExtraordinaryTK]

@@grantcivyt It's difficult to tell whether AlphaGo was learning and exploring new possibility or not while playing the game because it's a machine, A none-human capable of simulate strategic thousand time faster than current human will only be set in stone if it's has No ability to learn. Only non-human with thinking ability will see outside of our imagination scope.

[@grantcivyt]

@@ExtraordinaryTK It's really much less inscrutable than you describe. The system depends on a neural network that's developed over time, but you can stop the development at any time and install the AI's brain. You can listen early on in the movie when they discuss settling on version 17 or somesuch. It's very unlikely that they produced a new, untested version of the system in the middle of the match.

[@heatshield]

@@grantcivyt Not only unlikely, it was definitely the same version. Can't "switch players" mid tournament. What isn't clear is if it had the ability to understand that it was playing Lee all five times which could benefit it by learning or at least prioritizing comparing his play style through the later games.

[@Metagross31]

Eventhough I don't speak a single word of Korean, the way Lee Sedol talks really feels special, almost mesmerizing or ancient. I could listen to him for hours without understanding a word.

[@stronghold429]

When Lee said he is playing to win for the whole human race, i gotta admit, choked me up a little bit

[@danielyucua4213]

Fan Hui has so many romantic quotes 1:02:01 "We are Go player Okay, sometimes in China, in Korea, in Japan we see go like art. We are artists, you know. We play our best for Go... I am in the room. I see Lee Sedol. He wants win. He try everything. It's just we can't. Just it's so..." 1:05:10 "When you play with Alpha Go you feel very strange. Look like you you're all the time naked. The first time you see this you don't want to see because Oh, this is me? Real me? And more and more, you need accept. Oh this is the real me. So, how? Now, how I can do?" 1:06:28 "Lee Sedol is very patient. He wait, he wait, he wait his moment. I feel something, he looks like the wolf. Wait in the forest, in the winter. He cold, he feel very, very cold. But he need patience. But the moment is coming... he goes out to attack."

[@snowstrobe]

My fav Fan line: 'First you think it's good move, then you think it was a really good move, then you think it was a fantastic move, then you think maybe it wasn't a great move, then you think, Oh no, it was a bad move, then... oh, it was a terrible move.

[@briand3029]

How do you understand any of that jibberish??

[@snowstrobe]

@@briand3029 Better than understand comments like that.

[@ChrisKsan]

@@briand3029 You are overflowing with culture and good manners.

[@jerbear97]

Romaticism of the French + Mysticism of the Chinese. What did you expect lol

[@Greezbhal]

It’s not often I’m glad YT recommends something so far out of my usual interests but this documentary has been a joy to watch.

[@Gallowglass7]

I'm so happy how viral this has gone, this particular video had like 2000 views for like 2 years when I watched it first and now it has 25 million

[@damnedcarrot]

I was watching vids on the history of human blood sacrifice and it took me to this lol. The YT algorithm is out of it’s mind.

[@alfiecattell8623]

Deep Mind is owned by Google

[@TheMandinotan]

Maybe it's recommended by AlphaGo haha

[@damnedcarrot]

@@TheMandinotan lol. Diabolical!

[@billtetley1596]

40:21 - The looks on the Korean game commentators faces speaks incredible volumes. The shock of the realization that a human, a revered and admired professional that is so well known, was defeated must have been so overwhelming. They probably felt an incredible sense of humility and doubt never experienced before.

[@mihaihosu5210]

This is one of the most profound and moving displays of humanity that I've ever seen. It's not about computers, it's about us, humans. We are so fragile, yet so amazingly complex, so apparently weak, yet so incredibly stoic. We are truly a miracle. The human mind has reached the edges of the universe and has untangled some of the deepest mysteries of reality, now it's time for the greatest challenge of them all: to understand itself. Amazing stuff. All of our deepest emotions laid bare.

[@imurpheous1757]

yes, there are so many paradox's in our species

[@Redmanticore]

our highest pride (everyone in korea thinking their champion will win 5-0) soon turned into despair. (machine depicted as having red eyes, depressed people)

[@eliana1574]

Has anyone else cried for all this? Because I'm in tears. That's amazing.

[@eliana1574]

@Hersh Z When finally Lee Sedol wins the fourth game, but also the end. Humans can be incredible, can do amazing things. We should use our abilities to increase our happiness and wellness.

[@slipperypilchard70]

Rdrrr44d

[@slipperypilchard70]

6'.n

[@olivierclaverie6722]

I think that I have cried 6 or 7 times during this movie, but I am a little bit emotional... Great movie anyway

[@KG-tz9cb]

Yep!

[@thewateringwiz7118]

That was incredible. I’ve never played Go, I’ve never heard of Lee Sedol or AlphaGo. But this document made me so emotional. Incredible storytelling, all the people there to share their story and comment on the events, it’s just incredible. I was so happy and emotional when Lee won game 4. I want to learn how to play Go now

[@InkAndBrass]

Reading this, I hope you’ve played at least your first game! There are many great online servers to play and learn on.

[@vigilancebrandon]

I’ve been learning. It’s hard!!!!

[@OfficialSearchEngine]

I've played GO twice. I was at a complete loss. After watching this video, I'll be purchasing the game. Watching Lee Sodol beat AI was moving. I want to play again.

[@billtetley1596]

@thewateringwiz7118 If you read this I hope you have found your way into the beautiful and ever changing life of Go. It may seem overwhelming at first but don’t forget to take it one step at a time, one tsumego at a time, one game at a time. Remember: you never lose a game if you are willing to learn.

[@칼세이건-z7q]

congrats for the Nobel prize in chemistry. Demis Hassabis.!!! I hope you will visit korea again. from S . Korea.

[@alanlopezr.7104]

Fan Hui and Lee Sedon really poured their souls to every word they spoke and it showed.

[@bontempo1271]

What's remarkable about Lee Sodol's victory, beyond his remarkable ability, is that in such a short time he learnt a bit about the AI, and realised that by being unpredictable, he could throw it off. To do that at this intensity is absolutely heroic. I really feel humans were taken beyond their ability, made to feel useless, but still, emotion gives the drive and spirit to gain a fight from nowhere and even overcome. This was the Matrix, this was Terminator !!

[@noblecyborg-savage]

Deep mind has a starcraft AI "AlphaStar" who beat some of the best players in the game but just like AlphaGo you could do something unpredictable and it would throw it off

[@bontempo1271]

@@noblecyborg-savage Oh that is cool to hear and very interesting. Thanks for contributing that, i'm gonna look for videos. So i guess it's just like people playing video games over and over, we soon find limits and weaknesses. Just oviously the example above is at a much more advanced level. You know what, we as humans better stop and have a very good talk about AI before we start with Quantum computing, because that is clearly going to go far beyond anything humans can reach.

[@LillPoss]

To me the main danger of AI never was in the lines of terminator or the matrix, of AI being evil and destroy/enslave the humans, what worries me is that machines got rid of humans during industrial revolution. The AlphaGo proved that AI can think creative. Now the humas already are strugling with creativity, most of areas of art and fashion and others are stuck in recycling of previous ideas and eras, for amount of creative people we have on the planet at this time we dont come with much of new things in creativity. Machines are destroying our jobs, the ratio of the jobs that are lost and new ones appearing creates the unemployemnt we get today and it be getting only worse as developent of AI progresses, soon we will not need doctors,engineers and many others. I have heard of the AI that already writes music and produces art. So my worry is that in best case scenario we will just turn into people from Disney's Wall-E, and its not because AI is evil or its creators aim to destroy human civilisation.

[@bontempo1271]

​@@LillPoss Ah yes, it is a great concern about employment. So therefore, we as a species need to think about what we can do with AI, how it can make the world a better place, rather than coporates using them to get richer while we suffer. And the thing of the 'evil' AI, yes i was just having some fun. I think Elon said, it's not a case of AI being evil it's a case of it finding an objective, and humans being in the way. About creativity, i dont think that's a problem. That's a human 'power'. We program the algorithim that creates that music, but we humans quickly become bored with things. AI creativity will be stagnant quickly. And we would need to program it. Shows that creativity is going to be one of the most important human powers :)

[@TheCrimson7272]

@@noblecyborg-savage its apm is also inhuman. 1000+ at some moments

[@focker0000]

What moved me a lot, besides the fierce fighting between Lee and alphaGo, was the passion of Fan Hui

[@nileshsonune4142]

Watching this 3 years after the release and as an AI engineer I can assure that 1:12:05 is pure gold. Massive respect for Lee Sedol and the DeepMind team.