Classic/Vanilla WoW Shaman Leveling Guide - Part 1

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Hey Guys! Thanks for watching! If you want more info, including clarifications, corrections, and time data, check out part 2 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqndiYewmK6lebs

[@bloodfurypk666]

great stuff

[@kargozgaming]

Omg lmaoo I love the alpha and p values yesss this is what happens when a scientist plays wow

[@Holycow94WoW]

posted this just in time! im gonna roll shammy on fresh, because they are the most versatile character, you can change your role and playstyle whenever you want something new and it almost always works! plus it screams HORDE like no other class! i hate healing tho so im not gonna heal! im just gonna do whatever i want lol :P

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Turanka Casual wow dude I'm surprised

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

But I agree lol

[@Holycow94WoW]

yea but when classic comes out you know ill be rolling full shield and hoof!

[@lisaozenich]

I tried out playing as an elemental/healing hybrid so I could PvP but still be useful in raids and dungeons. I really recommend it if you are at a higher level.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thanks! Do you have a link of the build?

[@lisaozenich]

I do on my computer. I'll link it tonight when I'm home.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Great!

[@lisaozenich]

classicdb.ch/?talent#hE0dqzZZVbxkqxq I'm hoping that will take you to the page so you can see what I did with the talent points. I know it looks a little crazy, especially not having an "ultimate" ability, but I built that trying to do maximum damage output while still being able to heal, and have the natures swiftness. IMO, natures swiftness is one of the most important talents to have. Instant heals or chain lightning during PvP was extremely useful to me. I built the whole tree around being able to have it.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

That'sa super interesting build and it seems pretty viable. The only thing i think may be useful is elemental fury. I might consider taking points out of purification for that

[@demobay8561]

Awesome guide man. So in depth, going to take me a while to unpack all that. Having all that info in one place will be real handy to anyone that's decided on rolling a Shaman

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Demo Bay thanks dude. Yeah I hope it helps someone

[@zenith_journey]

woo another video. ive read like 4 different ways that its "optimal" to level a shaman, got to love the diversity of vanilla :D

[@BubblewrapHighway]

I love a fellow mathematician. Number crunching in RPGs is so good!

[@dunedain5358]

Ah, the guide you talked about! I love how you give restoration a chance for leveling. It opens so much more fun options if you don't take the cooky cutter way. I leveled my paladin as holy once, can't say I liked it very much, but it was an achievement at least :D. This resto spec seems fun though.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Dunedain it's quite enjoyable, especially if you want to dungeon a lot

[@michaelmoran6674]

Anaylytical biochemist here, love your inclusion for pvalue and any statiscal measures. Simply put thats masterful and great job.

[@AbsolutionFB]

First wow guide I've ever seen with statistical analysis 10/10

[@sulik682]

Great video. Nitpicky stuff, I love this stuff as it sounds like you do too =) Please accept this as constructive feedback, I in no way want to minimize the great work you put into this video. Enhance notes: It's important to note that flametongue bypasses armor values, so for higher-armor targets it is a nice DPS boost. Most beasts have high default armor values, humanoids (casters especially) tend to be lower armor and hp. If you're fighting a bunch of humans (sometimes lower hp and often lower armor) then rockbiter can be a better choice to maximize DPS. I don't know why you take 5% mana boost instead of shield specialization for the 1h builds. This will decrease damage taken quite a bit and should increase your uptime as it helps deal with additional pulls quite a bit. 5% mana usually isn't even a single cast of a spell unless you are downranking. For 2h builds I agree, if you're never using a shield then why bother putting points into it. An additional strategy can be useful in dungeon groups or in any group really as a enh dps shaman. If you have clearcasting, forget the '5 second rule' and instead spam rank 1 shocks in long fights. Whenever you get clearcast procs, use a max rank shock (obvioulsy Earth/Frost for damage depending on ranks, and flame for DOT or on a boss). Otherwise you will go OOM very fast using max rank shocks and spend the rest of the fight without options. This can also be useful in a group if you're just doing quests as you can chain-pull quite a bit more. This is very situational of course, and not something I'd ever think of for soloing unless you run OOM and have no choice but rank 1 shocks. Very pertinent to mention the hit% talent in resto as a nice DPS boost, hitting an extra 3% of your attacks can be very handy especially in 2h windfury where every hit matters a lot. Regarding searing totem- This can be a DPS boost but can also be a decent waste of mana. I like to drop it only when I know I can quickly pull another mob after the first one dies with minimal delay. If it's the last fight before I have to drink then you're better off saving the mana for another shock or to start the pull with lightning bolt or something. Also if it pulls aggro on an add then the totem will die which is a big waste of mana as well. But on the other hand it is a must for elites or other hard-to-kill mobs. Also why no mention of mana spring? You gain the mana cost back after I think either 10 or 15 sec, so if you are being faithful to pulling 3 or 4 mobs during the life of your totems it is giving you an extra spell or two over the course of that fight with no downside other than the extra GCD. Elemental notes: Chain lightning during soloing is extremely mana inefficient. This will cause a lot of extra down time. Forget it- just keep the LB spam for basically equivalent DPS and much less mana usage. You did "hit upon" Nature's guidance here which is very spot on. Your use of earthbind is interesting I never bothered with it while elemental soloing. Stoneskin and mana spring, pulling one mob at a time. Rank 1 frost shock after the 2nd lightning bolt lands, then a 3rd lightning bolt. By now the mob has arrived, and should be less than 1/2 life. Depending on crits/etc, I just melee it down with perhaps another lightning bolt (despite pushback) if the mob has a decent amount of life left. Take a bit of damage, don't waste time moving during the fight, and trade some HP in order to use mana-free damage to finish off the very low hp mobs. Great elemental trick- cast max-rank lightning shield before you drink. Generally its not as mana efficient during fights, often I use a lower rank lightning shield that I put on while the mob is lower health and I'm autoattacking. When autoattacking to finish off a mob, use rank 1 earth shock/frost shock (rank 1 Frost does about 100 damage) to try and trigger clearcasting. Clearcasting is always a big DPS boost. Again, love the content. If you've got through the whole thing then thanks for reading, and I hope it's interesting.

[@NavyPharmD]

^ These are all excellent points. From a guy that played shaman in Vanilla and leveled another one on Nostralius.

[@theshaman415]

That was really in depth

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Yeah, this one took me a while

[@fandabidozi3191]

Great work Melderon. A true rear commander!

[@illbean1337]

Some comments here and there, but first let me tell u that this was a very good video with lots of useful informations and comparisons. While i had a difficult time to understand the graphs because i don't know how to read them they're still useful to those who can. Why wouldn't u take Improved Lightning Shield whenever u go the way into enhanc? It's the most mana efficient ability the shamans have, sure, it costs some mana, but it also does more damage per mana spent than the rest, and if u compare it with Flame Shock, there are times where Flame Shock won't run it's duration thus costing u more mana / damage. Lets also not forget the fact with LS + Stormstrike. The debuff left on the target causes the target to take increased damage from all sources of nature damage, even the non-direct ones. This means that ur lightning shield WILL deal 20% more damage, i've tested this myself and used it on Lights Hope (Lightbringer). The race selection is also important for more than just leveling, u have to think about endgame aswell. Tauren is a great PvP class, especially as Elemental as u can stun the target to get a free 3x cast with CL, NS+LB and ES to finish it all off. If u're planning on raiding, resto is usually the way to go, then being orc won't do u any good, go troll. However, if u're going enhancment in raiding (as myself) u should definetly be an orc to get Axe spec for Nightfall use, as that's basicly a mandatory weapon to even get into the raid. Again, GREAT video, really like all the different points that u bring up, just wish u would include more than just the leveling process as it might bite u in the butt later on (races). This comes from some1 who has 2 60 shamans on Lightbringer and leveling a 3rd for F R E S H.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Great Comment. Except for the Tauren part, I did mention the rest about races at the end. As far as lightning shield is concerned, I do have to apologize that it may be more mana efficient than FS and I actually was surprised to learn that it does benefit from flame shock without consuming its charges, pretty interesting. I was under the impression that it didn't as I did not see the charges drop off when LS hit. As far as ILS, many crafters are in agreement that a 15% increase at a 3-talent point cost is not worth it, arguing that anticipation is a better choice as it will be more useful in more situations

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

I'm making a part two and will address this in that!

[@EpictheEpicest]

I know this video is old but I've found a couple of things that I think could be improved: 1. Even with a fast dagger I've found rockbiter to be superior to flametongue for 1h/shield leveling. Maybe this changes later on, but I haven't yet experienced it. 2. You can get away with more consistency by pulling 1-2 mobs at a time and only using fire totems and mana spring totem, the other totems are pretty useless in open world leveling. 3. I've found windfury weapon/totem to be very sub-par with a 2h or 1h in open world leveling; pulling 1 mob at a time it rarely procs and even if it procs it often overkills the mob, making the extra damage useless.

[@brucekentallen]

Nice video I wish someone could graph out how these combs "1h+shield/ fast 2h / slow 2h" would scale with stats and level because there's bound to be thresholds there regarding optimization for leveling.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

brucekentallen true, that would be nice maybe I'll collect data while leveling on fresh

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Although it will be quite difficult to switch specs a lot but I could sure do it for enhancement

[@BobTheLegend]

I will gleefully fund gold/etc for the sake of science and data if you were to do this on retail classic/fresh.

[@TheJackbhoy]

Just watching your videos and, honestly you have really put a lot of effort and will continue to watch more.

[@mizoto6550]

Good vid. I don't disagree with anything you said, im just adding something because I have nothing else to do right now Lightning Shield, as you mentioned is a lot of Mana. but depending on the ranks of spells you have at the time, lightning Shield can be the highest instant damage-per-Mana-spent spell you have, making it the most efficient to use... Until you get more ranks of other spells

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Yes! Check out part 2 where I clarify that. Thanks so much for the comment

[@brandonspengel5727]

Dagger/shield Enhancement is some of my favorite, most enjoyable grinding experiences in the game

[@YourIQDoesntMeanShitToMe]

Agreed

[@pettytos6387]

Thank you for this :D , had doubts over shield and dagger but boy is it fun.

[@DavidsGameplayMC]

Gonna be crazy how people are just gonna stop playing bfa when classic hits lol

[@aspiringnormie9499]

We already are ;)

[@AggrarFarmer]

I skiped wow since legion now i wait for classic . Want play shaman.

[@jordanfast7354]

wow classic will most likely be like runescape 3 when oldschool came out it balanced out for quite awhile

[@Imkaje]

Very informative, however, there is one point I have to disagree on. You put strength>agility>stamina for stat priority. I would have to say that agility>stamina>strength is better for leveling purposes. The attack power needed to decrease the number of hits necessary to kill a mob from 10 to let's say 9 is pretty much impossible, but even 1% crit would make you kill 1 mob in 10(assuming it takes 10 hits to kill each mob) with one fewer hits by getting that one crit for double damage in early game(59 & below). That doesn't even take flurry into account. Agility gives you more flurry uptime, which in turn gives you more crits. Warrior leveling follows a similar logic. Agility is better, which is fortunate, because there's not a lot of leather strength gear. Otherwise great guide!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thanks brother, I'll be covering that in part 3 for sure

[@Pytliczello]

Really would love to watch video about dual wield in TBC. Great video keep it up!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thanks, bro! Hopefully will work on that at some point in the future

[@ashrulessb]

Loved the statistics man

[@classict.j.1311]

Great video. But I never recommend casting Chain Lightning while leveling unless Elemental Master or Elemental Focus is present. Too much mana drain. Just my 2 cents. These are valuable numbers!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Classic Azeroth great point! Especially for the resto caster!

[@Ruskad]

I agree. It's been a long time since vanilla but efficiency is the goal, in my opinion. I'd rather save a little mana regen time and take a little damage then try to burst down mobs and have to drink more often. Spirit helps both and made a large difference in my leveling experience back then.

[@Ixnatifual]

Thanks for this guide. I’ll keep it in handy for Classic as I level my first shaman to cap. I’ll be going with 2H enhancement for effectiveness, respeccing to Resto at 60. I want to do my trade skills while leveling, herbalism and alchemy, as well as cooking and fishing. So I should have a bunch of pots and buffs I can use for grinding as well as dungeons. I leveled a Druid as Resto in Vanilla, and I don’t really feel like doing something like that again, lol.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

lol, I get that. Best of luck!

[@waltz999]

Great video. I am so looking forward to Classic. I have only played extremely sporadically over the last few years, and the game as as it sits now is broken ihmo (but I know ohters disagree). Anyways. Really looking forward to Classic, I will play again then. Great and informative video. Also: Subbed ;-) I found your channel after you were mentioned in Kargoz WoW Classic Shaman lvling guide. Cheers. Keep it up.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thanks brother!!

[@retadinftw]

Absolutely perfect!

[@johnhandcock3242]

Also, I heard that lightning shield was the most efficient dmg per mana you could spend. I might be wrong about that though, but I vaguely recall it being rather efficient. idk

[@Evaese]

Cheers mate!, solid leveling advice. Still can't decide what to roll for the fresh LH server :P

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Well, it can be a tough decision for sure as we all know what a grind it is. I suggest perhaps writing down pros and cons for each class and go from there

[@highmarshalhelbrecht4715]

All retail guys should be made to watch this

[@ferfykins]

Just finished the video, was an amazing guide. Thanks so much!!

[@Marco-q7c-s7f]

Not sure if you will ever see this comment, but I'm interested in making a hardcore shaman. I would like to focus a fast one-hand/shield build for survivability and am torn between going elemental/resto or enhancement/resto. I've seen you guides and masterclasses and i'm leaning towards Ele/Resto but with a melee mindset. Wondering if you could eventually produce a hardcore guide if interested. I'm playing on Turtlewow right now and they are tweeking the talent builds over there, but I guess what would be useful for me is what are the key talents I should target for survivability and reasonably kill times. What stats to focus (my assumption is agi>stam>int>str>spirit, but not sure). I prefer to play alone unless I find some guys who are less sweaty, so this would primarily be for "out in the world" questing stuff. Thanks in advance.

[@Jake-ym6vv]

Absolutely loving your shaman videos! Really eye-opening, and can't wait to start leveling mine! Just a quick question though - what's your scrolling combat text addon? So satisfying!

[@adrianparker3116]

Enh Tauren Shaman for life!!!

[@speedsterleite]

Great video! Just a detail, at 4:20 you mention a pvalue of 0.73 means there is a 73% chance of achieving the same results by dumb luck. That's not accurate, under the null hypothesis the pvalues observed would fit a uniform distribution between 0 and 1

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Correct. However, I try to use verbiage that is a bit more colloquial for many reasons

[@menrathmatei4402]

Uummm...yes totally agreed and totally understand that

[@NavyPharmD]

I prefer to 30/0/21 Elemental spec in Classic. It's what I played on Nostralius. You can level very efficiently, you can farm end-game materials very efficiently, you can heal dungeon groups (albeit with a fair bit of drinking), and you're absolutely devastating support in world and battleground PvP. No respecs required, easy access to gear. The one big issue is that you're not an effective enough healer for most raid groups, and no one is bringing an elemental shaman to a raid. So you might have to find yourself switching to a 0/5/46 build when your raid nights swing around. Overall, though, the 30/0/21 spec (fast dagger, flame-tongue) is one of the strongest and most enjoyable specializations in ALL of Classic WoW.

[@connor1q1q1]

Not sure if you respond to comments here anymore but from playing Pservers and leveling a shaman to 60 something I learned is getting green whelp armor at lv30 will make your life infinitely easier and as it’s leather any class that can wear it would benefit from it especially on pvp servers

[@Rakyr]

Overall for pvp do u think tauren might have the edge as warstomp allows a clear chain of lightning/heal? I just ask because I love tauren and everyone seems to go orc.

[@jetrpg22]

6:48 Time for flametongue vs WF on Dagger. 12:08 Time for all setups (minus above dagger + wf). WF median was what ~158 with dagger shield spec as hybrid spec with WF weapon that should get you even closer to 2h fast numbers.

[@tumppigo]

Wonderful video, thanks!

[@carlmcclatchie2122]

A spec you did not mention is 0 30 21, enchance without storm strike but with natures swiftness. This I think will be my end game spec for pvp and raiding, assuming I can convince a raid to add me to a melee group but with a nice emergency instant heal when needed. Ideally I would prefer the 31 in storm strike but I think that limits my raid use, as I cannot justify using an additional debuff slot and losing a possible insta chain heal or healing wave. Or do you think you could still get a raid spot with 0 31 20?

[@ferfykins]

I was hoping you could make a video on enhance PVP, what spells you do use, and what spells you don't use/or need... Thanks!

[@CFH298]

Part 3 please ;) Great video!

[@a1no1x]

Awesome video! Any opinions on TBC at all?

[@stoneshinz]

Great video. Will a larger n (i.e. n=30) give the same result?

[@FooDanger]

Great video but honestly skip 10 points in enhance and screw stormtrike, it's mana inefficient and sucks with fast weapons. Instead go with a dagger that never is below 1.5 in speed. That's where the flametounge scaling really goes crazy. If you manage to pick up a blue 1.3 dagger. Look forward to 10 quick levels because you will be hyper efficient. And since you've freed up alot of your talent points by not going for stormtrike you can get tons of nice points from the ele tree. I've ran this build personally from 1-60 and I was so efficient in grinding mobs I opted to purelyob grins for a large portion of all my levels. Since daggers are really not used by many classes, I managed to pick up some GREAT super fast daggers really cheaply on the AH. Would STRONGLY recommend. I did 2h in retail vanilla and it's a huge difference.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

great advice, man. Thanks!

[@HuskerUK]

Any chance you link the build here? I would like to see where you put your points, I'm new to vanilla WoW so I could use all the help I can get.

[@edwardelric4427]

If you don't mind, please make videos for the other classes as well. This sort of content can't be weight up in gold! Thank you very much for all the hard work you put in there.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Edward Elric hey man, I will try although I don't really play other classes. It takes a ton of time to level a character and get stats but I will consider it down the road. Thanks for the viewership

[@edwardelric4427]

Defcamp & Melderon TV I only can guess how many time it took to collect all the necessary information. If you need raw data, such as the stats that you mentioned, I have a lvl 40 druid on a German Blizzlike Vanilla server and could do some gathering for you. Or maybe other people in the community are better suited? (I think with a fixed test procedure and method we actually could do an effective division of work.)

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thanks so much! together Melderon and Myself may be able to do something like that in the future with the help of other people in the community! Thanks so much for your support, and suggestion!

[@bellphorion]

Chugged a energy drink before watching this. So stoked to play vanilla

[@ODGreenZa]

I went with elemental currently using a dagger and shield can heal or dps in a dungeon

[@quieteyes881]

I never played Vanilla, I started in LK pre-patch. By that point Shamans could dual wield. I went dual wield enhancement with 2.40 maces and I tended to stack crit chance till I got about 25%. I never did anything back then except solo pve, and I thought I was the shit. This is gonna be a totally different experience

[@alexanderkomosa2254]

A metric that is missing is exp per unit time which is probably the most important metric for leveling.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Its in part 2. Thanks for watching

[@trafalcs_go3434]

Thanks for this guide ! I'm going to play rsham on Classic, but i also want to do my leveling quickly so, I won't do it with the resto build. I was wondering what is the best for this case, elemental or enhancement ? Maybe elemental build can provide me a basic stuff for heal at lvl 60 ?

[@SinSorrowEU]

Okey. Been searching but there is no good resto shaman PVP quide. Do you have any links, videos etc for it?

[@Loon65]

Defcamp needs to do a guide for Paladin!!

[@griftahxtc]

I'm looking at dual boxing with a Tauren feral druid and Shaman as the second. So thinking resto/ele type build would be fun

[@ageoflove1980]

Great stuff! Question : Can you spec enhancement but still heal 5 mans while levelling if you swap to healing gear? Or do you really need the talents? Id love to solo enhancement and heal in group content. (Ill switch full resto at 55 - 60 of course for all the harder content ).

[@Czeron01]

I have found that being enh and switching to healing gear (stuff with int mainly) is viable so far (at late 30-40 mark). It probably helps if you have a good tank.

[@mihailoristic7264]

Really eye-opening video. Keep it up :D. I am wondering in which order would we take the hybrid talents? Also i am wondering why we are taking Eye of the Storm 3/3 instead of Elemental devastation and why wouldnt we get a few points in Call of the Thunder instead of Reverberation? I think we could maybe even sacrifice some ench talents (weapon mastery or lightning shield) to max out Call of the Thunder (last lvl gives 2% crit chance). Would love your feedback on this and thanks in advance, love your content

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

All great points. I'm working on a part 3 where I tackle some of these issues. It will take a bit to pump out although TBH so stay tuned

[@dankduelzperuvian]

@@DefcampMelderonTV Don't bother, on-crit effects were fixed as of Patch 1.10.0 (possibly earlier) and /sit abuse is a private server bug. You've already seen this in the demo I'm sure.

[@Auriel17]

This is an amazing guide thanks!

[@chrisandreas3142]

I would add that its better to level ench till 40 and than resp to Elemental

[@jetrpg22]

Nice job. Edit this was a pserver (not hating) This may change (some people think Ft will change) but i think WF would be the one to likely change if any.

[@stefanoskechagias1736]

Thank you for the video:) I 'd say your sample size n is a bit small here. The dps distributions may not be normal, so as a rule of thumb you need at least n=15 but you d be safer with 20 to 30. If you do end up trying larger samples I d also suggest to be aware of practical versus statistical significance.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

You should check out my advanced shaman leveling guide, this puppy is old. Thanks for watching

[@wrexelementalshaman8640]

Very nice video man :) It will be useful with Northdale launch next week Personally, I will go enh 2H (STV PvP

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Hey man! Thanks so much for the comment. I'm uploading a part 2 to this tomorrow some time with even more info. Also, in regards to healing, my resto shaman leveling guide may be helpful. Just ignore the parts about resto talents, basically, it's all about knowing when to use what heal. Enhancement can heal just fine

[@wrexelementalshaman8640]

Thanks man, I will check these videos for sure :) I remember back in retail vanilla i leveled as elem it was fun but you drink like an irish guy lol

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Wrex Elemental Shaman lmfao

[@Crooxan]

What about going for that 2h and enhancing totems and rest in resto. just to get a little dps boost when questing but still doing great healing dungeons?

[@2manygamestoplay]

And as we know now a year later dungeon leveling seems to be the new meta..

[@J450NAv3ng3d]

I'm a complete noob to classic, so could you explain why dungeon leveling is the "meta"? With how the stress test was looking, I'm leaning towards dragging my friends through dungeons to get away from all the mob tagging, at least for the early levels

[@zakkonfire2257]

@@J450NAv3ng3d so the reason it could be considered "meta" is classic wow dungeons are easier than private server dungeons and it allows you to avoid competing for quest mobs with the crowd at launch.

[@sePODEtemCAST]

First off all, srry about my bad english. In video u say "choose quests u will make", how i do this? Im rlly nb on wow classic, u have some videos talking about what quests do? Thanks.

[@jankroka4593]

Useful video, thanks.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

You are very welcome

[@redryan20000]

Comparing the STDEVs of both groups, weren't you concerned the two group variances were significantly different? This would throw off the original test (I think mostly due to low sample sizes of 10).

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Ran an Anova. The result wasn't significant

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

You should check out my advanced guide. Sample sizes are much larger

[@sandreid87]

I love the boxplot approach to testing, but a bit let down by the fact that you didn't factor in down-time, in the final results. Its pointless to go with Elemental, because "AMG High dps" if you have to drink 70% of the time (Which I know you have to - Elemental Main since early TBC here). I know you commented on this, but actually incorperating XP/hour in some way would have been much more useful, if you ask me. Just some constructive critism for the future :)

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Hi I address that issue in part 2. Let me know what you think

[@jasonreese8644]

awesome vid! subbed!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thanks bro!

[@jasonreese8644]

any good shaman resto and ele pvp video guides?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

@@jasonreese8644 not from me, but have you checked out orcbit and hamsterwheel

[@dnb888]

I've been leveling as Enhancement and am getting pretty tired of the RNG nature of the build. I'm almost 40 and plan to switch to Elemental. It'll be tricky to be collecting all new gear and get a mount as well as all skills as I level

[@textymctexterson3154]

This a noob question I know but how does one go about allocating the talent points for a given build as they level? Is it ALL the points on the first tier, then down to the second, or if you put so many on the first that unlocks a specific talent on the second then go there and etc... It's always been confusing to me how to allocate points for a given build. Thanks in advance and please forgive my noobness.

[@sensator]

I was thinking of running an Enhancement tank spec for leveling so that I have the possibility of easily making groups for dungeons. It would probably be something like this: classicdb.ch/?talent#hLZEif0Exut Not sure if it's viable as I've never seen it but I have heard some people say Enh tanks are perfectly fine in the earlier content.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

I think that's a great spec. Have you seen my shaman tanking guide?

[@TheSurroundification]

awesome video

[@_sSs_Andreii]

I'm sorry but what's your R2 ? we need to know. Also, we'll need a Poisson distribution of 100 attacks and their procs on windfurry :D love this

[@fishy_png]

was that tips on the warrior

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

perhaps ;)

[@storm0fnova]

how are Druids such fast levelers? also I would have thought rogues were higher on the list.

[@johnjaques7642]

/clap. great vid man

[@ferfykins]

Ehh i'm confused, which is better for windfury, 2h slow or 2h fast?

[@jca6819]

On my private server, the damage of flametongue allow the proc of clearcasting. Very useful for leveling with dague. I don't remember that in 2005. Someone on Classic confirm ?

[@fluuuuuu]

Whats the on click healing addon and UI addon you are using bro?

[@thorulkeiner424]

I played a shaman back in vanilla. Ive done most of my time pvp. I want to say something about surviveability in pvp for shamans. If u are melee ur SA(survivability) ist not that good if u dont have a healer behind u. no matter if u are 1h+S or 2h. Ele is better because u dont have to go in meelerange and casting Chainlightning in a group can be devasting - no IT IS. But the greatest thing u can play in PVP is Resto. U where Mail + shild and 1h weapon. u can specc that ur heals can be stopped from beeing hit (still can be kicked) and u can do damage as well. To Enhance in PVP: These videos roaming the internet especially UNBREAKABLE are a Montage. Very often WF dont proc and u die.

[@matthewkeating6970]

Great vid.

[@spiritofhell1]

What UI Addon you are using ?

[@hallzytheconqueror6232]

Why no imp lightning shield? I seem to remember imp lightning shield being a more efficient mana to damage spell than shocks.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Hey thanks for the comment. IMO improved lightning shield isn't worth the points. A 15% increase to me is negligible. However, you are right about the mana efficiency aspect. After doing some research it would seem that it may be better than flame shock. I'll have to rethink that. But, according to some other theory crafters, the 3 talent points in lightning shield just isn't worth a 15% increase, those points should go elsewhere.

[@razziez]

So I wana go tauren, but I also want to pvp. Should I really roll orc for the stun racial? I'll probably go enhance till 40 then respec to eleresto.

[@niftygoohighlights3910]

Razziez Tauren is good for PvP too. The stun resistance is nice but a war stomp gives you time to get either a heal or a chain lightning off that can be enough to win the fight.

[@mikehagan5938]

are you using max rank spells when leveling?

[@jordanedwards2714]

You could actually make statistics interesting for me hahaha

[@leonix9882]

i wonder if 2handed hybrids could be useful

[@RufusBaartok]

what's the 2H speed breakpoint where WF starts being more insteresting ?

[@Donaldburger]

Cool. I didn’t know you could level as Ele

[@CuriousShrimp]

Interesting video. I think most of your points still have value but I feel you should have more significant sample size for your experiments. 10/20 is not enough considering the variance you still hold 😢

[@evgeni9246]

Where do you play? server name

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Hi! We play on light's hope both lightbringer (alliance) and northdale (horde): Names on Lightbringer are melderontv and defcamp and on northdale: melderon and defcamp

[@evgeni9246]

Defcamp & Melderon TV thanks, mate. I might try it soon

[@yeahido9072]

what about earthbind kiting

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

This guide was made before Kargoz made that guide. It's something I may incorporate in future guides

[@k1bo996]

Does anyone have a good build for a duo shaman warrior leveling? I had some form of enha resto build in mind but no build runs the talent in enha tree that upgrades your strength totem. I think it sounds good if i have a warrior on me at all times, thoughts?

[@malohn2068]

I won't use lightning shield and searing totem it really isn't worth crap. Grace and strength. Storms trike earth shock. Usually here you get a crit or a wind fury proc and the target is dead. Using 6 abilities every pull is absolutely ridiculous.

[@Chris031999]

so if you would want to level but also heal in dungeons what would you do ?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

You can heal very well as enhancement or elemental

[@dahut95]

Brilliant :)

[@Ghost-fe1vp]

Earthbind kiting not being mentioned here?

[@arzos2603]

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