Defence Against English Gangster Methods (German WW2 Combatives)

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[@brittakriep2938]

I am german, Brittas boyfriend, born 1965, simple rural man, worker. A pure armchair expert, with no Military or Martial Arts Training. Would be a bad soldier, Autism. Some notes. In era of most famous austrian painter, there was a lot of Propaganda nonsens in my country, i know. To explain the use of , Gangster '. There is a Photo, showing Winston Churchill with a Thompson Smg, wearing a mix of Top- and Bowler hat. This picture was used for Propaganda: Churchill the Gangster. And one event, according to a german military magazine, caused anger among german soldiers against Anglosaxon nations Special Forces. A group of german soldiers was bound/ gefesselt in a way, that they strangled themselves to death. In contrast to warmovies not all actions of allied soldiers respected International Law. At first. Wrestling was known in Germany for centuries, but in Hema context it seemed, there was a decline starting in first half of 18th century, but a Comeback in early 19th century in today no more practiced Styles. With exeption of olympic wrestling, there are in Switzerland the folkstyle Schwingen and in alpine Regions of Ausria, Bavaria and South Tyrol the folkstyle Rangeln. Boxing mit as introduced in second half of 19th century, but for a long time not really legal. Jui Jitsu came to Germany in latest 19th century arround 1900, i read , first german state which introduced Jiu Jitsu to Police had been Free Town of Bremen. A note to the knife. Using a knife as weapon was also done in Germany, but assumingly not so common than in Spain or Italy, and as far as i know, not teached in fencing schools. But according to my father, born 1938, who talked a lot with older men, knifes had been often used in 1920s, and also in my fathers young years. Coming from Southern Germany a formerly popular knife type had survived the end of Lederhosen and was carried by older men into 1980s. It is a fixed blade knife ( blade about10cm/4"), carried once in a small Pocket on right side of Lederhosen, called Nicker ( Genick- neck in english). In last ten years we have got an unbeliveable high rate of Knife crime in Germany. As an Englischman you surely know, who is responsible. And not realy martial art, but must be noted in military Training conext , the , Turner 'movement, which started in napoleonic era, when Germany was occupied by Napoleon . The didabled man Ludwig (?) Jahn became the Propaganda face of this movement, a student Karl (?) Friesen the practical head. Those two men had the idea , the german men should prepare their body for fight by Fitness Training. Mr. Friesen had a lot ot ideas for Training without or cheap to make Training Equipment, and he tried to give Wrestling and fencing former popularity. So in Hitler era, the idea of Sports Training as Support for military Fitness was over 100 years old. Formerly in Germany there was seen a difference between Sport and Turnen, but in 1960s the Turner movement stopped the Military Background and switched to Competiton, artistics and ,aesthetic moves'.

[@Santeria78]

Yes, Erich Rahn was one of the forefathers of Ju-Jitsu in Germany

[@andrewrodgers2180]

Thanks again Tommy, very interesting. This book illustrates one of the basic tenant's of war for every weapon or tactic, the enemy will be working on a counter. More practical martial arts were popular in the Third Reich , like boxing and Ju jitsu . Famous General Kurt Panzer Meyer had a black belt in Ju Jitsu . Your right about naval and military press, a great resource foe military history books at great prices. They have a large collection of cool manuals on everything from bayonet fighting to how to use grenades properly (WW I). I love this publisher. Keep on chin jabbing.

[@ivanmuniz3288]

The German response to WEF method was really poor.... they were left far behind in this matter.

[@Hakk8477]

Thanks for sharing Tommy. In fact, it's worth looking into as a complement to the Fairbairn method. Since it was created to counter it.

[@bosshossmotorcycle385bhpwi9]

Just ordered it.

[@drunkenmaster6434]

I've read mein kampf and Hitler mentions how important and useful boxing and Jujutsu are

[@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786]

You deserve a medal for having the fortitude to suffer all the way through Mein Kampf. The struggle is in finishing it.

[@drunkenmaster6434]

@@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786 not as bad as Das Capital lol

[@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786]

@@drunkenmaster6434 Hmm, difference in quantity and quality. There are three giant volumes of Capital, and vast swathes of it are about the price of corn and other things that are only interesting to obsessive historians and economists. And they don't deserve a medal for their peculiar interests.

[@connorperrett9559]

That is interesting. Jujutsu had really taken Europe by storm then and seems to have supplanted a lot of folk wrestling styles. It seems like JJ was big in the Victorian through Georgian periods, then fell out of common knowledge until the 90s when the Gracies took UFC by storm. Now every medium sized city has a BJJ gym.

[@bobadams7654]

SO DISAPPOINTING! I thought you were translating instantly 😢 Excellent presentation of a fascinating manual. Nice one our Tommy.

[@patrickedwards7107]

This will be joining study materials

[@rm8874]

Do you know anything about "Francois d’Eliscu"? I saw a video on Odysseus Files(a channel that primarily focuses on military history specifically 19th century) that was titled "America’s W.E. Fairbairn: How Francois d’Eliscu Taught US Rangers “To Kill or Be Killed”" and I was curious if you knew anything about him.

[@thomasarillotta6518]

7/8/23 Viewing and learning; loved it!

[@qudavid1128]

Simple and Practical. Just how I like combative manuals. Going to check it out

[@OllinXiucoatl]

What did the Japanese think of W.E Fairbairn’s combatives?

[@junheceta268]

They said to themselves, “We should never have taught these white people Judo.”

[@ignitionfrn2223]

3:05 - Stab from the front 4:35 - Strangle from behind 5:25 - Chop 8:00 - How to kill the english 10:10 - Note to instructors 11:20 - How long to read it 12:45 - Conclusion

[@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786]

Fascinating for the modern application as well as the historical. We all get to rehearse the arguments about whether it is better to only attack, to only block and counter, or to mix attacks with blocking and countering, all over again. Endless fun for all the family. Yes, that last bit is sarcasm. It will be interesting to find out if anyone makes the effort to work out through training how well these counter methods work in modern terrrorist situations and so on. Will they work against Islamists with knives taped to their hands? Against muggers? Rogue PC Wayne Couzens types? You get the drift.

[@Tito_Viera]

Tommy where are your cup of tea. Yeap, I have the stereotypical image of a english man in a cosy corner of his home reading a book and drinking a cup of tea. Jajaja... well jokes apart thanks for sharing this "unicorn" book.

[@shitmemedankpost5926]

The fact that they refer to the British attacks as gangster methods, and claims that stealth kills had never occurred to Germans because it's a subhuman tactic despite commando operations during the blitzkrieg shows how infused propaganda had become with martial arts. This is why historical martial arts are important. The history of martial arts has been rewritten.

[@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786]

Are you aware that you just went through the same process you complain about? When you said 'This is why historical' you invented a rationale which sounds plausible and imposed it on the past. You rewrote the history all over again. You don't need to do that. You can observe without giving reasons or seeking causes and causality.

[@junheceta268]

The reference to British combative tactics as “gangster methods” was simply in keeping with the official Nazi propaganda line that the British and American soldiers were murderers and psychopaths recruited from prisons and asylums. It was hoped this would discourage German troops from trying to surrender. In fact, during the start of Operation Overlord, the Normandy invasion, Allied troops were in fact ordered to take no prisoners alive. Since they had not yet secured and consolidated their position, it was felt too unwieldy a logistical burden to secure and feed so many POWs. Just a simple truth in the cold equations of war.

[@andrewrodgers2180]

@@junheceta268 Was the fact that the Germans called Anglo-American forces gangsters also a nod to especially the Yanks being the home Of Al Capone and prohibition. All those great old gangster films helped to spread this perception of America being ridden with crime. Also that famous picture of Churchill with the Tommy gun did not help neither. Reach for the sky ya Nazis rats !!😀

[@connorperrett9559]

@@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786 Most modern people are not aware of their own biases, surely just how it has been in the past. Moderns tend to think that 21st Century Secular Liberalism is the end state of civilization and that we have scientifically discovered the best path to the end of history.

[@brittakriep2938]

​@@junheceta268: Some notes from Germany. You allways think, every Action done by allied soldiers was according to International Law, while all german actions had been against International Law, and nearly all war movies show this picture. If there had been a warcrimes trial against allied soldiers... According to a german military magazine , the reason of anger about anglosaxon nations Special Forces came from an event, where german soldiers had been bound(?)/ gefesselt, in a way that they strangled themselves to death.

[@bewarethegreyghost]

Can you do breakdowns of the fights from the old star trek show. So much of Captain Kirk's moves are WW2 combatives and point shooting. (Minus the goofy bits)

[@junheceta268]

I’m a little late viewing this video but I’m glad I finally got around to it. You’ve done an excellent review of an outstanding book, one I had no idea existed and I must get myself a copy. For all their fascist Aryan supremacy insanity the Nazis were, with a few exceptions, exceedingly efficient and frighteningly competent-which was what made them so dangerous. Prior to WW2 they instituted a nationwide campaign of physical fitness and martial sports training to cultivate the “master race”. Judo became extremely popular in Germany, the UK, and France (and still is) largely due to the tireless efforts of Judo founder Jigoro Kano to propagate the art in Europe. Prof. Kano in fact attended the 1936 Berlin Olympics in his capacity as an official of the International Olympic Committee. To be clear, Prof. Kano was NOT a Nazi sympathizer; there are existing photographs of medal-awarding ceremonies at the 1936 Olympics that show Prof. Kano stubbornly and noticeably refusing to render the Nazi salute even though other foreign dignitaries did so. The book is another example of German efficiency, instructing students how to counter combative tactics likely to be used against them by British commandos, SOE operatives, and the like. Practical as ever, they focused only on countermeasures that worked, no stylized ritualistic BS. That said, seeing the “vertical hand defense against a 3 Stooges eye poke” appear in an authentic military training manual is hilarious. I agree with you 💯 percent that Naval Military Press has done an outstanding layout job for this book. The large size and the high definition full-page photos together with concise but clear instructions make for easy study. Many many thanks for letting us know about it. Would it be possible for you to maybe demonstrate these methods on video? Just a thought.

[@brittakriep2938]

A note: In napoleonic era a german man named Ludwig (?) Jahn was annoyed about french occupation, and wanted to do something to help free Germany, even he was didabled. He heared of the ideas of a patrotic student Karl (?) Friesen, and as a good speaker, he became the main propagandist of german, Turner ' movement, while Friesen became practical head. What was the ,Turner 'movement? Mr. Friesen thougt, the german men must use the time before fighting for german freedom to train for a fit, trained body. So Mr. Friesen created ideas for simple and cheaper training devices, and also , even cheaper, without devices. Also he tried to make Wrestling and fencing more popular. In 1850s , english ' sport was added to german Turnen and still nowadays many rural sports Clubs call themselves ,Turn- und Sportverein '. But in 1960s the Military part/ aspect of Turnen was mostly removed, and , beautiful movement ' and ,artistics' became more important. So a sportsmovement for supporting Military Fitness was in Hitler era an over hundred Years old thing. And according to a german,yellow press' maazine, Free town of Bremen was in Imperial Germany First german state, where Jui Jitsu was introduced for Police. A rich merchant from Bremen noticed, that the son of a japanese Businessman could Beat His son, being smaller and lighter than His son.

[@ibrahimadnan1187]

Amazing

[@thehastingsdojo2332]

Love this book thank you so much for sharing and inspiring

[@heerarodriguez9563]

Is there one for Black gangsters? In my country they're one of the smallest groups yet responsible for over 60-70% of violent crimes.

[@wor53lg50]

You should have used that books knowledge and defended yourself from that bloody fly that landed on yer" my ole mans a dustman, cap" at 7:59...bleeding thing has just done my nut in watching it scurry around on ur bonse for the last minute or so!!

[@connorperrett9559]

This is the most English sentence possible.