Defend and Disarm a Stick Attack

[@hard2hurt]

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[@etherealicer]

I find it really sad that I never see the guy with the stick doing something other than a wild swing (I understand that this is the most common attack by an untrained fighter). Stick for self defense? No, but what about an umbrella? Or a walking stick. And I know you don't like sticks, but maybe it's just because you don't know how to use it. I recommend a single move to learn (and an easy one at that). The stop-thrust: - Assailant is coming at you, you step backwards (fencing style, so it is almost running backwards, quick small steps) - You stop and thrust at the sternum It hurts and I have seen guys in padded armor (HEMA armor) go down from this. Pretty sure you can figure this out, it is simple. Btw, this also works with your beloved flashlight, just a lot shorter reach.

[@etherealicer]

Btw, that technique would be even more difficult to implement against someone who doesn't extend the arm during the strike, but curls it*. It is how I learned it. It decreases the range but increases control and protection (both important if you fight stick on stick), for range we use the thrust as it is both fast and has a lot more reach than even a fully extended swing. * We call it cutting, as the stick (sword) makes a cutting motion.

[@martialartsunlimited01]

@@etherealicer that is true, yet the person with that type of swing and control also isn't likely the one going out there and hitting people with sticks. It's that drunk or passed off guy that is and would most likely have that larger swing.

[@magnumopusjkd6657]

I love it. My argument for the Filipino martial arts is 2 fold that 1. No I probably don’t always have a stick handy but possibly a baton if it’s legal where you live to carry one and 2. A lot of those drills and techniques can be translated to a blade which most people have access to. Most people I know carry a pocket knife everywhere they go.

[@etherealicer]

@@magnumopusjkd6657 Do you learn thrusts with your sticks/batons? I think that is the most important technique for knives.

[@martialartsunlimited01]

I love how Ed gets the disarm and Mike looks like no way, grabs the stick to do it again and again and again. Great video Mike.

[@hard2hurt]

its almost like he's practiced that or something

[@seansnyder2855]

This just looks ABSURD. Love it.

[@kinauki5265]

The leverage, nice.

[@kennethlancaster6868]

That exact thing happens every day at the gym I go to lol . Bull shit ..... Do it again but slower ..... Slower .... Mind equals blown

[@nickwilliams8302]

You know what I like about this disarm? It disarms while removing the weapon (in the immediate sense at least) from the fight, rather than ending the disarm with you in possession of the weapon. This can be crucial when it comes to demonstrating that you acted in self-defence. If there is a point in the fight where _you_ are armed and your opponent is not, then that fight is going to be a lot harder to sell as defensive. Not impossible. But it creates problems.

[@largocharles8729]

The disappointment on mike's face when the stick just get thrown effortlessly even if he tries to hold into it tight is hilarious

[@rooroo9216]

I loved it at 5:19 where Mike is doing just that and he’s like “huuurrrggghhh!!! Thumb energyyyyyyyyy!!!!” *stick drops “thumb energy didn’t work….😒” 😂😂 lol it’s just brilliant!

[@largocharles8729]

@@rooroo9216 he giving it his all but it still doesnt work, he even stood there thinking "why???"

[@CancerArpegius]

He understands "the hand isn't made to hold things well"

[@Necrosythe2]

Mikes face when he tried to keep the stick in his hand and it still came right out is the funniest shit ever

[@hard2hurt]

Dude got me a couple times.

[@licittofficial]

My dad always had an axe handle incase he needed it in a fight. He always said "never swing for their head, they always see it coming, theyll grab it. Feint, then crack the knee as hard as you can, i dont care how big the mf is, they aint getting up after that"

[@hourglas]

Yes. Feint high, hit low works amazingly well. Especially if they're still trying to process someone approaching them with a stick. People rarely expect a feint outside of hand to hand.

[@rocelderamos3013]

That's why in FMA they call it (from upper right to lower left) the number 1 attack 😂 bec. it's such a common attack for any right-handed person armed with a long object.

[@allstarwoo4]

I can remember losing feeling in my knee just from hearing that.

[@blackwingdragonmasta]

Fake high go low amd vice verse is one of the most basic yet underappreciated aspects of fighting. It's something that is present in all martial arts whether it's striking or grappling.

[@revolvertaco7493]

Good advice.

[@Pikepaw]

As much as my favourite combo is IcyMike and Sensei Seth, I really do appreciate the recent videos bringing in a wide variety of experienced guys in different combat areas. Martial arts is best when we reach out and share our knowledge. Also even if not entirely realistic, I do think stick fighting is just really cool and looks awesome.

[@jc-kj8yc]

It's also incredibly fun!

[@Pikepaw]

@@jc-kj8yc exactly and the reason we stick with martial arts most often is because we are having fun.

[@jc-kj8yc]

@@Pikepaw hehe, stick with it, hehe

[@martialartsunlimited01]

Yeah, I need to bribe him into having me in a video

[@Reubengotgame]

There's something about understanding how gross motor movements work that comes from a guy with missing fingers. I love it!

[@metrolinamartialarts]

If it works lol

[@malkomalkavian]

Purely asking for information, and if it is none of my business then I understand, forget I asked. But what is the situation with your fingers, Sir? Is that from fighting?

[@metrolinamartialarts]

@@malkomalkavian I was in an electrical accident 30 years ago

[@malkomalkavian]

Thank you for indulging my curiosity, carry on :)

[@kevinready3948]

Holy crap..... This dude is so good I didn't even realize he was missing finger until you pointed it out. Unreal

[@sharpshooter9407]

I've done stick sparring before (FMA practitioner for 10+ years). That "circling bullshit" that Ed does absolutely can work. Not that it'd reliably work, but I've had it done to me and did it myself. Felt real cool everytime I got it done. And you're right about the more esoteric, fine motor movements too. They're a whole lot harder to land and they hurt like hell if you mess them up

[@metrolinamartialarts]

100% agree. I still train them, but I'm Def not doing them in self-defense

[@atomic_wait]

There are some similar disarms in Fiore's longsword manuscripts from centuries ago. The wrist can only rotate so far, so you just keep cranking the weapon until it pops out!

[@thomasgross8289]

Duel sticks and the bo staff hands down are my favorite weapons. Well ok the katana for the cool factor, but the before mentioned weapons I'm confident in thier use. Almost any technique CAN work lol that's why they call it fighting not winning. But I was joking, in a conflict I'm not going to break into some hair brained idea...probably.

[@RebuildingSaad]

@@atomic_wait ngl that's pretty cool

[@gskate117]

I feel like that shit works on drunk people

[@humorlessclown]

Mike’s face when he realizes he looks kinda like the old man doing Tai Chi in the park after he lands that disarm is fucking priceless 😆

[@grayalun]

It is stuff like this that makes you question how many movements in Kata, Tul or Forms have similar applications but they have been lost misinterpreted or just taught wrong over the years. Ramsey Dewey has been looking at similar stuff on his channel and even simple stuff like the low block movement from Karate, Taekwondo and other similar arts his friend who is a wrestler said that's for stripping grips.

[@humorlessclown]

@@grayalun - Agreed. People like to talk about how kata training or traditional Chinese kung fu has unnecessary movement for training and can be next to useless but fail to ponder the “Whisper Down the Alley” effect that may have happened. How it’s probably eastern martial arts version of shadow boxing so to speak and it was better to try and advance muscle memory with it then do nothing at all. But like you said, the misinterpretation does hurt but what can you do when people don’t clearly write the instructions down 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@VlogCandyMinus]

​@@grayalun I just watched that video! The one with Jesse Enkamp!

[@2rustysporks]

The videos that come out of these meet-ups with other channels have been awesome. Thank you all for these :)

[@hard2hurt]

Still got some more coming!

[@ryanoneill6481]

Ed has such an elegant way of explaining things. Very polite and well spoken.

[@DeezyP]

Just can't get enough of H2H and Icy Mike!

[@EvolveNowYoga]

Seths stick fighting joke in the end is underrated

[@staysafemartialarts]

Love these recent videos. The atmosphere is great. Cool to see each video is with someone else offering their insight/knowledge for a given situation.

[@gwidao123]

I'm a Escryma Teacher and i totally agree with this guy. Flourishing pretty shit never works for real. There are a TON of wrist disarms that are actually very effective though, pull 'em off in sparring all the time. You're not gonna disarm a knife though, no way. Long objects though, really good chance you can

[@marceldouwstra5847]

Agreed. It's too fiddly to work in a adrenaline pumped real life situation. I prefer to control/immobilize the knife arm and make them drop the knife by some "physical convincing".

[@thomasgross8289]

Its actually quite easy to disarm a knife with a strike. Back of the hand, into fingers, inside and outside wrists, for arm, radial nerve. Ok the fingers would be hairy lol

[@jirkazalabak1514]

I guess it depends on the type of knife. With a big steak knife that is pretty slow and heavy, has only one sharp side, and can easily be grabbed with both hands, you have a decent chance of disarming, or at least controlling it. If someone pulls out a small double-edged tactical knife, you are absolutely fucked. These things are so small and handy that even when fixed against your body, a crafty attacker can still figure out a way to jam them right into your flesh. Not only that, but the handles on those knives are often made specifically so that the knife doesn´t slip or fall out, so it´s extremely difficult to actually get it out of someone´s hand. That doesn´t even mention the fact that a guy with a tactical knife on him will probably be more skilled than an angry housewife with a kitchen knife.

[@jasonsimpson1397]

The fancy stuff still looks cool, but it's only good for form competitions. It's unfortunate that it makes the whole art seem like a joke. It's unfortunate that people refer to it as stick fighting and ignore that it's a fairly rounded system, including dumog.

[@jasonsimpson1397]

Also, let's not ignore the grip strength it builds 😅

[@grayalun]

These two working together is great viewing. It's actually nice to see guys from two completely different fighting styles looking at what they can learn from each other. Rather than what we see so often with one style saying their way is the only way, learn from everyone I say.

[@allstarwoo4]

I love Mike's face of disbelief. You've done it before with wrist strips but slightly different. Using leverage to break someone's grip, same idea different application.

[@brianmagsipoc8718]

Took Kali for a few years, gross motor movements absolutely work in sparring far better then the flowery stuff. At least you have a much higher percentage of landing them.

[@stanisawzokiewski3308]

4:30 same thing in hema twisting weapons out the hand clock like

[@Annokh]

Damn, finally someone talking sense about stick-related things on the KZbin. Have you noticed that the motion in question can be seen even in some TMA forms? For me, personally, Silat comes to mind. They like this motion a lot. On the matter of using sticks in self-defense situation. Well, I agree, it's not the most intuitive thing. Walking canes are a bit out of style as of late. But as my experience shows, it's not that much of a problem to bring it back, heh.

[@streetkombativesystem4704]

"Dude if your teaching that stuff, you can't fight." replies "Your not wrong." Then at 4:20 mins in shows us some of the flowery shit he agreed wouldn't work 🤣. Salute.

[@legin777]

prepare for all the Silat/Kali/Bondo practitioners to come out of the woodwork.

[@oldschoolkarate-5o]

your not lying ,i do some Jun Fan Jkd with my friends who train in that system and they do love the kali sticks. and oblique kicks🥸👍🏽

[@metrolinamartialarts]

I said some things and people are gonna be mad.

[@Ventus_the_Heathen]

Silat practitioner out of the wood work here! That disarm is the same in my style. All the kickboxing, wrestling, and jiu jitsu I train also helps back it up Haha

[@metrolinamartialarts]

@@Ventus_the_Heathen sweet!

[@WatchMysh]

*A wild Kali instructor appears* Metrolina is 100% right. All the fine movements don't work. That's why PTK for example mostly abandoned them - especially when instructing law enforcement or military personell. Gross motor movements, closing the distance and grappling/elbows all the way. Great collaboration by the way. More of that, please! :)

[@andrewtaylor6795]

Live how the stick disarm actually works and love Mike's reaction reaction more 🤣

[@eemotion]

I've watched several videos with Ed and I have not noticed his right hand until now!

[@arthurfleck8777]

Congratulations on 400k Subscribers Mike, you've earned it!.

[@anthonyforster529]

Great content. One of the techniques against the backhand taught at my wing chun school was to step in with a simple double forearm block to the weapon arm on the backswing, then elbow check with one hand and weapon wrap to disarm with the other. This at least allowed you to keep pressure forward when your opponent tried to back hand again and looked super cool if you could actually pull it off ;)

[@shadowfighter6445]

That disarm looks really fun, I'm practicing that one 😄. Thank you for sharing ☺️.

[@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76]

it also works using your arms crossed and catching the stick near the guys hands. Hurts like hell and ONLY works when they take a baseball bat style swing. Then spin the stick from them. If you keep the stick, you're in a great position to jab it in their throat, balls or anywhere in between.

[@jaystedman4819]

5:00 similar movement to Mawashi Uke in Naha-te Karate styles. Shows that techniques like this originally come from effective and natural body movements like arms rotating in different direction despite the fact that any practical use of such movements is predominantly ignored by modern clubs.

[@jordanmurray4061]

"look at him, he feeld good now" lol! I love that background commentary

[@camfer9616]

just when Mike hits the big "bullshit..." the ads pop XD perfect mid credits!

[@KhaosTy]

Great video and good timing. I just moved home to Manila and just this morning was working with an Arnis instructor at a park. He was showing me this same "snake" disarm, but he was telling me to grab the thumb of my opponent, which felt a little unrealistic. To his credit he showed me other, similar disarms depending on whether I could grab the hand, wrist, or weapon.

[@aetius2277]

Love the video ! Lol teachers teaching students to put their hands up to block a stick. They are not teaching that that is the ideal technique to use but the fact is the reality is if somebody comes charging at you flailing a stick you will get blasted ! And your arms receiving it is a lot better than your face or a vital spot on your body. So it’s not that it’s the technique that you want to use but sometimes the only one that you can use and it’s damage control. Being that you receive damage then you react off of the hit because you got hit anyway . Yes the techniques of being able to enter in control the distance and be out of the effect of range of the stick is the ideal techniques to use as demonstrated in this video. However the reality is you’re probably going to get blasted while you are closing that distance. And therefore your arms would be the better place to receive it and you will still have to react off of that. It’s the same thing as if you were attacked with somebody who has a knife you’re going to get cut . It’s never the fact that well it’s just OK to get cut on your arms and then you just go do this and do that because that’s stupid because your arms just got cut . That’s not the case is the concept of if somebody charges at me with a knife wailing I’m probably going to get cut so I want to control that damage on my arms rather than my neck or my face or being stabbed in the body and then I’m gonna have to react off of that No it’s just training worst case scenario . And then separately training the ideal scenario. I love your videos keep them coming .

[@eljoelo2459]

That was Mike getting his mind blown again and again The way the stick comes out of the hand is perfect since it is being forced against the thumb. If someone has the thumb strong enough to not let the stick go, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.

[@frisc0strangler207]

This might be the baddest dude with one good hand on the planet. Good stuff fellas!

[@paleamigo8575]

Excellent instruction! Finger gouges to the eyes are underrated and often available if close enough. People don't think about them because they are focused on looking cool while fighting. Lastly, I believe a defender should always shadow the hand holding the weapon without grabbing until you are ready to. This way you can partially guide where it goes and you know where it is without taking your eye off of the attacker. If you are on the inside of course. Great video, thank you!

[@krab999]

8:05 " You've already seen me and Ed stick fighting " LMFAO

[@ronclauw]

Instead of throwing the stick away, there are a few alternatives, starting at 4:58. The first one is that the defender uses his right hand to come down hard on the attacker's ellbow. I can tell you (from experience) that this is very painful. The second alternative is that the defender closes up the attacking arm to his body and initiates a wrist lock. By lifting up his arm and turning a little to the right he puts the attacker's ellbow under pressure (maybe at the risk of breaking). The attacker's body is now fully uncovered, and even the stick can easily be taken away.

[@michaelclarkson1376]

I saw a guy try to block a metal pipe with his forearm without closing the distance. There's no better object lesson for what not to do than watching someone's forearm go floppy. The radius and ulna were both broken horribly. Less a fracture and more a shatter. Had to have his bones wired and screwed into place.

[@hard2hurt]

bUt DiD hE gEt HiT iN tEH heD?

[@michaelclarkson1376]

@@hard2hurt I’m betting he would have if the guy with a pipe had gone for a second swing. Luckily, pipe dude got freaked out when he saw the arm flop and ran away. I’m guessing he knew the cops would be on their way. 🤣

[@thomasgross8289]

Who is fundamentally that stupid?

[@PipEnigma]

@@thomasgross8289 my mom put me in a mcdojo style place when I was younger and i shit you not we practiced blocking sticks with our arms like that over and over. I did it one time outside of that place when at school with just a regular old stick, and i went home with a huge welt on my arm. I knew then that something was up with that place lmao

[@thomasgross8289]

@@PipEnigma LMAO

[@willmaier4134]

Good advice, good explanation of the importance of controlling the distance; good technique. I also like an option of grabbing the stick with your right hand (palm up) to strip it, instead of just knocking it away. Now you can use the stick if you need to. Always enjoy your videos! A lot of good stuff!

[@bartangel4867]

This is a good video. i like the defense of course someone would need to practice it for quite some time to get the muscle memory down, but its still simpler and probably more effective than some other ways.

[@DHRGrafix]

Great video. I lead an FMA training group. We also add dirty boxing, clinch fighting and BJJ. Stick is really good for teaching timing, distance and how to manage the fear of somebody hitting you with a stick. But I tell my group that stick duels, knife duels, sword duels, etc. while fun in training aren't very realistic for self defense. So we spend some time every session doing "self defense" like defending against somebody with a bat or stick. When we do it looks exactly like what Ed is teaching except I've never learned that disarm Ed teaches Icy Mike. Looks sweet. We will be trying that one out this Saturday at our next session.

[@juanmoralesvideo]

Great technique! Looks realistic and grounded. I would like to see some defenses when the guy is holding the stick with both hands.

[@MonkeyFist]

5:54 you need blue arrow on your head in that moment hehe (air bender thing) But! Sparrings with the sticks (real sparrings - not choreograohy or drills) are pretty crazy... I think that all selfdefense gurus should try it hehe

[@ramonvelasquez8431]

Awesome stuff, nice to see a cool looking move that actually works! I do know a few but sadly the majority seem to be a very specific niche kind of thing.

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah I think some guys either get too bogged down in "looking cool" or things "working" and never look for things that are both. Martial Arts is TWO words.

[@ramonvelasquez8431]

@@hard2hurt Very good point! It has indeed a martial aspect, but it is also art as in everything when crafted correctly. Cheers Mike!

[@aaronandrewmonterola7394]

I agree that fma is not great for self defense, (it wasn’t meant for that) That flashy disarm moves etc etc…. I watched fma teachers saying don’t do it, it is just for the art but then again would you attack someone who practiced those moves a hundred of times. I know I wouldn’t. He said know your skill level first, run if possible if not be the aggressor do not maintain in the defensive position. This is a self defense youtube channel, where you can learn self-defense the most effective and practical way. I learned something from this video thank you.

[@martialartsauthorreacts5495]

Awesome video. Good job Sifu Ed with the disarm. Enjoy the podcast with Sifu Ed Stahl. I hope to have another chat. Enjoy Hard2Hurt content. Deflecting to disarming a weapon knowing how to control the arms. Absolutely agree that knowing how to grapple which can help you to deal with a weapon if it goes to the grown. Having the sensitivity drills like hubud give you that concept of knowing how to redirect the weapon hand so you can get the disarm. Timing the distance of the weapon knowing how to read the movements of the attacker motion. Not saying that hubud is the key of learning disarming a weapon, but it is a good drill to give you the concept of it. Excellent video Mike and Ed.

[@The_Taiji_Viking]

Great video. Interestingly enough, this is all strongly in line with TaijiQuan principles too. Most don't know it's a blade based art as well, but it is, prioritizing Spear and Sword but including Daggers too. Everything from the "use gross motor movements and discard the fine/complex," to using the forearms as a primary interaction surface for safety against weapons, to the exact disarm shown here. The first half of the movement is in our forms as "Cloud Hands" or "Wave Hands Like Clouds,' and the finish is exactly the motion of "White Crane Spreading Wings" or "Wing Split". Super cool video

[@KungFuCooter]

Ed is Awesome. I enjoyed talking with him at the last seminar that I attended.

[@ME_YA4P]

That disarm basically also exists in medieval dagger and I've done it in sparring (with blunts).

[@Capablanca42069]

I think the best thing for me on this channel has been seeing that gym fill up behind you with awesome people! I live in Scotland but I swear down if I'm ever in America Icy Mike is my go-to autograph goal!

[@scottbarber2736]

Millennials in the back: Get off yer damn phones and pay attention!

[@introvertincognito4518]

FMA that u see online is the art...the extensive flowery stuff is often things just to teach flow.

[@kencoffman7145]

Knocked outta the park again! Could we get a part 2 maybe?? "You disarmed him, now what??". I think that a lot of people think that once you've taken the weapon away the bad guys are just going to take off. Love your stuff Mike

[@matijaderetic3565]

Then you are evenly armed and do all the shit you trained for. OODA, speed, suprise, agression. Grappling and striking. 1 v 1 I guess you can ignore the weapon, otherwise someone might get it. I might be wrong, but the past situation of weapon being involved changes nothing in the present moment of two unarmed people fighting. Grabbing the weapon could leave you open for attack. I am not saying it's a bad question, but there's too many scenarios and that's where other vids come in. Obviously watching h2h isn't enough to defend yourself and needs practice among other things.

[@jdpace4371]

It's obvious: side kick.

[@kencoffman7145]

@@jdpace4371 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@jirkazalabak1514]

It´s tough to give solid advice on what to do in every situation. It really depends. If you are alone with your attacker, you have plenty of time to finish them off (this is tactical advice, so we´re assuming you can do that) and grab the weapon after you´re done. If you´re in a crowded place, it might be better to simply create some space and grab the weapon immediately, because it that case, the risk of someone else picking it up is too high to ignore it.

[@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76]

@@matijaderetic3565 Instead of tossing the guy's stick, keep it for youself. Them beat the shit out of him with chops instead of swings. Kinda hard to take a stick that's used properly

[@peterrussell6029]

Good vid - try going straight under the nose after the crash in with the free hand to get the opponent’s head back (with a view towards getting him onto the ground) - we‘ve had a lot of fun with this one 👍

[@Amajor10]

All the way in or all the way out. Nice mantra to live by for multiple things in life...

[@gingercore69]

We did a similar thing against slashing with knives, retreat on the first slash, and when they go for the reverse we would try to crash in and get a wakigatame... From there, either trip them over with basically a tai otoshi with a wakigatame grip, or change grip into an udegarami style grip and twist arround to.drop the oponent... We would do 2 minutes sparring rounds changing who gets the knife each time there was a dissarm First thing we noticed... Its very hard to not get hit at all... Just make sure you dont get butchered... Second thing, no matter how many times you practice knife sparring not having a knife yourself is stressfull when the lther guy has one, even if its a practice one... Also, in sparring we allowed any grip or attack, but the easiest techniques to defend from are the reverse slash and any straight downwards attack like a descending slash from above or an icepick grip descending stab... Also... ALWAYS WEAR EYE PROTECTION

[@isaweesaw]

Time to go into a dodgy part of town and self defence some guys with this cool ninja move I've never practiced

[@WatchMysh]

Don't forget to record

[@legin777]

So i have a question. Instead of sweeping the stick away. Why not transition into a standing kimura? You are right there.

[@metrolinamartialarts]

You could!

[@WatchMysh]

In FMA the sweep could be prioritized because the stick is seen as a blade. You want that gone from the opponents grip. Afterwards your own small blade enters the game. Someome once said: FMA is just a way to arm yourself while defending. Of course that's only one of many mindsets and not viable in a civil environment. But it explains where the disarming priority might originate. The standing Kimura would be a completely logical option if the stick really is just a stick.

[@rabidfox---1161]

That's a classic Tang Soo Do, and Hapkido disarm, it's found in a variety of other styles as well. You'll find it many traditional korean, japanese karate, and chinese kungfu forms. There are many variations in forms of the same movements having various uses, or meanings sometimes, both in striking as well as grappling. The trapping arm can go over, under and around and strike to the groin, ribs or liver while trapping the arm/elbow joint --while simultaneously also defending or applying a forearm or elbow strike with the other arm, into a take down, or chop/hammerfist to the neck/temple/jaw.

[@robertwomack8653]

I was taught that exact disarm in an Arnis class...a lot of it is impractical but some of it does work.

[@alterstassfurter5743]

I did combat arnis and karate-do (shodan)...and...I am absolutely with you.

[@dylvillain]

FMA is fake, ineffective etc. *proceeds to use literally the same shit we do in balintawak* I get it, its all in good fun. But Sensei Seth should hook Mike up with Guro Alex Ormaza, I think that'd be a cool vid.

[@ShaunMeaney99]

Never seen anything quite like this! Great video!

[@aezakmi4183]

I noticed the hand only watching for the second time..makes it even better now.

[@LuxisAlukard]

4:20 That's scene for some kung fu movie, with Mike as young student and Ed as old, wise master that teaches him secret techniques

[@benlee181089]

Nice channel, great research done in a light hearted manner

[@moneyfornothing3264]

This was great. Thanks Ed.

[@punymagus]

Looks exactly like how we learn any technique in Aikido, no joke.

[@baron5595]

It's probably the most high probability stick disarm. Sometimes called the 'snake' or 'snake and vine' disarm.

[@marcusinfestus1333]

Me since forever: "I have terrible hand-strength and can't grapple or disarm." ... I have no answer for what I just saw. I learned so much. Thank you!

[@wiredrabbit5732]

Where are you ? Malaysia! I was in Kuala Lumpur at a market once...some Thai vendors and Malay vendors pushing carts around got into a fight. There was suddenly a cloud of tens of sticks flailing in the air. Everybody had a couple. We made distance naturally ... and fast

[@vaughnsangalang7934]

sticks are good self defense weapons specially a guy that knows even a little kali and sticks are vary fast weapons

[@benjaminpujols1914]

LOL you guys are giving me a lot of memories from the past I used to actually walk around with anywhere from 12 to billy clubs bad neighborhood Dirtbag left and right you never know nobody at that time would fight one-on-one and if they did they would have their boys around so if they are losing or looks like you may know what you're doing they will jump in so if anything were to happen I was not going to put myself in a position where it's going to be a match and respect the rules of that match if I get into a fight with somebody 10-20 years ago and it looks like it's going to be similar to like a match like you would see in boxing or wrestling or whatever I am going to go into it that way if I have no choice obviously cuz I never liked fighting on purpose unless I'm angry but I'm still going to keep in mind to disrespect the rules of the match meaning that I will use whatever weapons I have is if it's a knife billy club a chain flashlight because sooner or later if it's a few seconds or few minutes it could be 20 years from now his friends are going to jump in eventually and that's something that I needed to be ready for when you're going against more than one person you definitely going to want a weapon to even it out as best as possible anyway and that's yeah that's what I would do a lot of moving I was in better shape then if I try that now I would guess South faster than I don't know faster than giant truck with no gas

[@SamFreedom]

Many videos are bunk but this was interesting and plausible.

[@sullyb23511]

"I'm pretty sure that they were stck fighting over there, earlier."

[@thecomedian5933]

Half way through the video I realized dude was missing some fingers. Its always impressive to see people who have a physical disability be a bad ass. Props to that dude.

[@emanuelcain9024]

This is a great video !!! But , I'm still waiting for the promise HAMMER self defense course videos!!!

[@BjjMaster]

Been loving this channel for a while… would you do an episode on cane’s?

[@metrolinamartialarts]

Oh boy! I said some mean things about Kali! 😅

[@BeReadyFighting]

We need more of that.

[@hard2hurt]

an army of keyboard warriors approaches!

[@WatchMysh]

Where? I have 10+ years of Kali behind me and didn't spot one mean thing - only logic and truth found in sparring and pressure testing. That's why there are different schools of Kali. Some kept the complicated stuff, some didn't. The fancy disarms only work reliably if you already defeated the attacker - which means another punch would KO him anyways.

[@letsfilipino]

I'm not falling into this trap.

[@krab999]

8:05 "You've already seen me stick fighting" LMFAO

[@mattdowds8505]

4:20 Remember Icy Mike, "The hand is not made to hold things very well"- Dale Brown, founder of Detroit Urban Survival Training & the Detroit Threat Management Center.

[@ekponlima6816]

Check out the french "Canne defènse". I think the french Police is still training it nowadays. I started with "Canne de Combat", which is the safe competition Version. Helps in learning to handle a cane under fatigue and pressure from your opponent.

[@ajhatti2011]

Question, my dad was in riot squad. They were taught not to swing the baton, but to drive the end strait into the sternum and face Two handed. How would you defend a two handed stabbing at chest and face besides run?

[@kiowhatta1]

I‘m not sure if he is referring to Sikiran Arnis, the Phillipine street fighting art that use ‘ twin escrima’ 19” sticks, the butterfly knife, plus kata and sparring. The dojo I attended Drilles mostly Hand to hand, with knife attack drills. The sticks were somewhat more ceremonial and I don’t recall this type of drill. I found Sikaran Arnis pretty cool.

[@CancerArpegius]

1:33 tbf self defense gauntlets is a thing. I should send you a pair to review lmao.

[@matthewk6731]

That disarm is very slick. You need too be mindful of the inertia of the stick. Hitting the wrist may cause the assailant to let go or loosen his grip, and the stick will continue to swing and still bean you in the mellon. It looks great in slow motion, but put on full head and other protective gear and go at it. Then the flaws come out. Train like you fight. And fight like you train.

[@gr2192]

So there IS something effective AND cool!

[@nacktheslayer9882]

we do this in hapkido, against knives where you go in on the second strike. But obv it works against anything swinging in that way.

[@Carnerd101]

Mike, still learning how to defend himself and talking like he's the expert

[@STARKILLER15100]

A master always knows hes not learned everything yet.

[@tomastelensky-vlog8723]

This guy says FMA is bs and then teaches you FMA...

[@iitim2152]

Mikes brain broke when that flashy disarm worked lol

[@heathenshaunt681]

The point he makes at the 7 minute point even if you don't have the torque advantage for a disarm you can lock it up or get in close to negate it and ruin them either way and continue to disarm or take control of the weapon to use on them

[@philip2685]

The second part where blocking the backhand or closing in on the forehand is what we were thought in krav.

[@punkerguy805]

As a long time FMA practitioner I approve this message. We are not allowed to snake dis arm in competition though because it can "damage" the other person's wrists...

[@rocelderamos3013]

And most Arnis competitions only score points with hits with the stick. So grappling/disarming's not gonna win the competition.

[@punkerguy805]

@@rocelderamos3013 3 "legal" disarms is generally considered a TKO. But yes most bouts do not end from disarms tho they technically can.

[@rocelderamos3013]

@@punkerguy805 Oh. Didn't know that was actually a thing. I've seen competitions, not a single one trying to pull off a disarm, probably because it's easier to smack people with a stick than to gamble getting too close to give the other guy the point. Anyway, if there's one thing I find troublesome about FMA is that it keeps advertising itself as "self-defense" when in reality, a stick is a weapon, and a weapon is intended to hurt or worse, kill people. It's an art that favors the armed person which is probably why it works better for the military than it does to a civilian.

[@Rippleshanks]

Can we get a video of Icy Mike defending against a stick attack with the Cold Steel buckler?

[@LastStar007]

For those following along at home, this is called a snake disarm. It's your left hand that's actually applying the disarm; your right hand is just intensifying the leverage.

[@sachabingham]

Some FMA is very fine motor skills. But this reminds me of the snake disarm which is very similar.

[@rayellthedruid2971]

3 mins In I can confirm this is an aikido move that works and I've used live on the job as a LEO and the fight instantly stopped cause the disarm scared the guy into giving up ot was so smooth.

[@ManaDorksMTG]

Does the same fight theory work against someone armed with a cucumber in a Kroger produce aisle I need an answer quickly

[@metrolinamartialarts]

No, the cucumber is too powerful

[@Dzingzing]

@@metrolinamartialarts thank you for the speedy response

[@ManaDorksMTG]

@@metrolinamartialarts you were right he beat my ass with it

[@RemingtinArms]

@@ManaDorksMTG as long as he only beat it... You got lucky

[@benjameshowden]

Bite

[@Erjad]

This is very similar to Grappling in HEMA, we do many disarms similard to this