Defending Down Under: The Australian Army's New Boxer CRV

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Talking Tactics with Mel Pikos

Talking Tactics with Mel Pikos

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Discover Australia's cutting-edge military advancement with the Boxer Combat Reconnaissance Vehicle (CRV)! In this video, we delve into the pivotal role of the Boxer CRV in modernizing Australia's Armoured Fighting Vehicle capability under LAND 400 Phase 2. Designed to enhance the safety, security, and protection of Australian troops, the Boxer CRV replaces the long-serving Australian Light Armoured Vehicle (ASLAV), providing heightened levels of protection, firepower, and mobility.
Versatile Deployment: From littoral environments to complex urban settings, the Boxer CRV ensures operational versatility, supporting missions ranging from peacekeeping to close combat. Strategic Contract: Rheinmetall Defence Australia has been tasked with delivering and supporting 211 Boxer 8x8 CRVs for the Australian Army, split into Block I and Block II phases. Current Status: Block I has already delivered 25 CRVs, including reconnaissance and multi-purpose variants, demonstrating exceptional performance and availability in Army operations. Future Build: Block II, comprising 186 CRVs, is currently undergoing design and testing phases, with production centered at Rheinmetall Defence Australia’s Military Vehicle Centre of Excellence in Redbank, Queensland.The majority of Block II CRVs will be assembled at Rheinmetall Defence Australia’s state-of-the-art facility, boosting local defense manufacturing capabilities.
Stay tuned as we explore how the Boxer CRV reinforces Australia's defense posture and supports future military operations. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more updates on Australia’s defense advancements!
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00:00 Introduction
00:26 What Is THe Boxer?
02:06 The Boxer vs The Patria AMV35
02:59 The Specifications
04:21 Manufacturing in Queensland
06:28 Is It Worth The Cost?
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@IC3XR
@IC3XR 12 күн бұрын
Boxers were definitely the better choice imo. The fact Australia has set up industry to build these ourselves is what's truly fantastic.
@peterryan4851
@peterryan4851 12 күн бұрын
Ukraine has shown mass matters. I’m not sure the purchase number will be enough. Particularly with consideration to the small number of IFV’s we’re purchasing innparalllel
@defectiveclone8450
@defectiveclone8450 12 күн бұрын
:)
@IC3XR
@IC3XR 12 күн бұрын
@@peterryan4851 you're ignoring a crucial fact I stated in my comment - Australia is dedicating industry to build them here. If/when a large conflict happens, those numbers can now be quickly increased. The real issue (and what I assume you're referring to) is the decision to reduce the number of Redback IFVs, being that we don't manufacture them here.
@jars6230
@jars6230 12 күн бұрын
@@peterryan4851 Ukraine has a border with their enemy. Australian military doctrine is to stop them getting here, not to win battles in major cities after they get here.
@BlauImHerzen
@BlauImHerzen 12 күн бұрын
Being able to produce weapons yourself and not rely on others is always an advantage. In addition, the Boxer gives you the opportunity to cover almost any application scenario with just one vehicle, thanks to its modular design. So they have 211 multi-functional vehicles, whereas without the Boxer they would need 211 specific combat vehicles and hundreds of others to be able to cover the tasks of reconnaissance, medical, command posts or mountains and bridge-laying functions, these would also cost money again. In addition, the Boxer is already tried and tested and is therefore less prone to errors than others. The quality also speaks for itself and you can rely on the boxer. The Boxer is also my absolute favorite vehicle in the German Army. You can't even imagine how big he is, in the videos and pictures he always looks smaller than in real life. Look into your room and imagine a boxer coming through the wall that is 3m wide, 3.4m high and 8.3m long :o It's a monster.
@investornator
@investornator 12 күн бұрын
You can not divide 5 billion dollars by 211 vehicles and come up with "each boxer will cost $25 million a piece" The cost associated with Land 400 Phase 2 include ...Training( and wages of the crew)Ammunition,,consumables such as tyres,oil.petrol,PPE. the list goes on and on of associated costs for the whole life cycle of the Boxer. The Australian Government always gives a life cycle cost of any projects associated with the ADF .
@warlordwossman5722
@warlordwossman5722 12 күн бұрын
People do that for the german boxer purchases too and act like it's a scam but without training, spare parts, etc. they are basically not worth anything because they won't be operational.
@vmpgsc
@vmpgsc 12 күн бұрын
Yep, just more "scratch the surface" journalism that skims published sources and regurgitates.
@Gurfi28
@Gurfi28 12 күн бұрын
In my country they budget armament acquisition almost the same (except training and wages I believe, since our army is conscription based), plus the price usually also includes one upgrade package during it‘s lifetime. That really puts the costs in a differen light.
@richardthomson4693
@richardthomson4693 11 күн бұрын
Yep anyone interested should google whole life cost accounting. Thats how the ADF budgets our defence purchases. The all up price for these is less than 25 million. Also note that in the last few days theres been announcement of about 300 extra purchases of boxer by various countries. At the current rate the brisbane facility might get some extra orders of take some of the a waiting list of the german and british lines
@RUHappyATM
@RUHappyATM 11 күн бұрын
I'm confused. Wages of the crew throughout the program's lifetime or just the wages while they undergo training to use the machines? Same for the other consumarables like tyres, oils, fuels etc. Are these for the life of the program? Edit: Looks like it has a high profile.
@norsehall309
@norsehall309 10 күн бұрын
G'day I'm an retired Grunt from 1 RAR and l think building up our Military manufacturing is a must as the world is changing at a fast past and if anything happens we need too stand on our own two feet and not rely on others, thank for the video, very informative, cheers.
@rikitourangi815
@rikitourangi815 10 күн бұрын
Mate,if the US demands we stop all trading with our biggest partners just to screw us economically,the government will do it and then pay billions for the advice
@chippyjohn1
@chippyjohn1 2 күн бұрын
Exactly. What happens when the US officially invade us. Need to ditch all US equipment and make our own. The time is coming.
@ronaldotrumph8960
@ronaldotrumph8960 11 күн бұрын
German company Rheinmetall and Australia both won here. Even though Rheinmetall has massive productions facilities in Germany, they and the German gov decided to built their Rec vehicles in Austrialia due to competency and availability.
@NotUnymous
@NotUnymous 8 күн бұрын
...why do you think Germany isnt compenent enough to produce their own product? I think it was all about availability.
@ronaldotrumph8960
@ronaldotrumph8960 7 күн бұрын
@@NotUnymous First of all: that someone is competence doesn't mean someone else isn't. So no talks about lack of competency here. But honestly, the main resources and competency of productions for the lanced turret version is in Australia and the BW wanted that vehicle on shot notice. Rheinmetall produces and focus on the unmanned turret version (forgot the name) in Germany I understand. Btw BW ordered these as well as I understand.
@tobiwan001
@tobiwan001 7 күн бұрын
@@ronaldotrumph8960 Germany mainly ordered Boxer's APC variant which are produced in Germany, but they also ordered a reconnaissance version which is almost identical to the Australian version. So the half finished Boxer is exported to Australia and then completed and then exported back to Germany. The unmanned turret version was considered as it was the same version used in the Puma IFV. But that turret is built by Rheinmetall's competitor KNDS, I think Rheinmetall had an interest in the "Australian" version. It is also likely that Germany buys the RCHF 155 artillery version of the Boxer. The only artillery system that can fire on the move.
@fuckoff4705
@fuckoff4705 4 күн бұрын
the german government has very little to say in these matters, the reason rheinmetall is setting up production in australia is because the australian government paid extra for license production so they could have strategic independence, not because of competency and availability, australia would actually be a very bad place for rheinmetall to do any manufacturing
@chippyjohn1
@chippyjohn1 2 күн бұрын
Not sure about competency. Our engineers couldnt manage to secure a box, widen seats, stop cartridges coming into the cabin and fix a fan on the Taipan helicopters.
@CaptainPhatt
@CaptainPhatt 4 күн бұрын
As a former M113A1 Recon Troop Leader, I'll just say that I wish we had had these Boxers back in my day. That Mauser MK30-2/ABM dual-feed stabilised cannon is giving me a Battlefat just thinking about it. Anyway I think that the Boxer was the best choice for Australia, but I would have preferred the MK 1 Tracked version.
@greglee1587
@greglee1587 11 күн бұрын
When it comes to the boxer and Redback working together, it must be a nightmare. Even though they both have the same caliber gun, they both use different ammunition. It boggles the mind
@Paylorek
@Paylorek 12 күн бұрын
Good for Australia. These are good-looking vehicles. Sending love from the USA 🇺🇸 🤝🇦🇺
@00tree
@00tree 10 күн бұрын
Watching from the US. Greetings from across the pond my friends.
@chippyjohn1
@chippyjohn1 2 күн бұрын
We arent your friends, no more support for illegal wars, get your mercenaries out of our country.
@user-ss5gu6pn8f
@user-ss5gu6pn8f 12 күн бұрын
It was only today i was speaking with my friend on leave (Australian army ASLAV CRV Driver) he said they are trying not to break any of the existing ASLAV's untill the new Boxer's arrive because of the mechanical part scarcity and maintenance costs. so YES to defend the land we love so dearly the Boxer's are an non- negotiable
@hylimm
@hylimm 12 күн бұрын
Defend from what? Kangaroo or natives 😂
@lzot
@lzot 11 күн бұрын
lol. Nothing has changed then. When we first got the LAV we only had 1 trailer load of parts. Then we had to mod the vehicle for Australian conditions - tyres in particular were crap. Fun fact - with the aslav you could accelerate on hard lock in 8-wheel drive then flick it to 4 wheel and start doing donuts.
@lucifer007007
@lucifer007007 3 күн бұрын
@@hylimm control of the population in then next epidemic BS coming ?Organized warfare appears to have started in the Neolithic Age and then ramped up during the Bronze Age. People have been killing each other since as long as there have been people its just got more technical how we mutilate each other
@jamesnicholls1180
@jamesnicholls1180 2 күн бұрын
​@@lzottrust Aussies to figure that out 😂
@pwa8453
@pwa8453 12 күн бұрын
1700+ Boxers already ordered globally. UK another major user now. Germany to order even more, e.g. as self-propelled howitzer
@shanerooney7288
@shanerooney7288 12 күн бұрын
Modern war will not be gentle with these AFVs. A $35,000 lancet will destroy a $10 milliom (UK) / $25 million (Aus) Boxer from 40km away. So could a $500 drone with a shape charge ducttaped to it.
@roadrunner6224
@roadrunner6224 11 күн бұрын
@@shanerooney7288 the same argument was made for ATGMs for decades now. Unless you are Russian you usually try to avoid getting hit in the first place by not sending out your tank on its own but maybe with an air defense vehicle, jammer or something similar.
@shanerooney7288
@shanerooney7288 11 күн бұрын
@@roadrunner6224 the two main differences are the range and the fact you don't need line of sight at time of fireing. NLAW = 800m Javelin = 2km MILAN = 2km Spike LR = 4km FPV drone = 10+km ZALA KYB = 30km ZALA Lancet = 40km a Boxer IFV will out range and have line of sight on the ATGM teams. But not on the drone teams.
@roadrunner6224
@roadrunner6224 11 күн бұрын
@@shanerooney7288 but they are slower, less well protected against direct attacks and ew. Drones are a problem for which there already dozens of solutions. APS, RWS, dedicated SPAA, counter drones, Manpads, AMM, EW, targeting the operators. I'm not saying drones arent a threat, but they are a threat that will be dealt with.
@shanerooney7288
@shanerooney7288 11 күн бұрын
@roadrunner6224 You can have 100 different ways to shoot a drone out of the air, but it makes no difference if they are unreliable. Example 1: (lack of opportunity) "Target the operators." You just need to find them and hit them before they hit you. It's definitely something I'd do when given the chance. But it's not something I'd rely on for Anti-drone defence. Example 2: (funding limits) Let's say Australia gets some SPAA, something similar to the Flakpanzer Gepard or 2K22 Tunguska. That's millions of dollars spent per vehicle. Also, It would only work when the SPAA was travelling with the Boxers. I just dont see Australia buying 50+ SPAA to drive around with their 200+ Boxers. Example 3: (working around the problem) Take Ukranian Kamikaze drone boats for example. There is evidence that they now have limited AI guiding them. You can't jam the signal if it doesn't rely on transmissions. Alternatively, have AI targeting only kick in when the signal is lost (usually on terminal phase of attack) And let's not forget the cost difference. If the drone costs $30,000 (Lancet), vs the vehicle costing $25,000,000 (Aus Boxer)... they can shoot hundreds of drones per vehicle and still come out ahead. That's why the days of $30 million dollar IFVs are over.
@tiktok000VS000ushi
@tiktok000VS000ushi 11 күн бұрын
I am not familiar with the Patria. The things I know about the Boxer tell me it is an incredible versatile and powerful platform with fairly easy and cost effective maintenance vectors. That Germany now receives Boxers produced in Australia just adds to this versatility. I don't know if it is better of the two, but it is a very good choice for sure and I am glad that we over here in the German army will be equipped with the Boxer platform as well.
@haemmertime
@haemmertime 12 күн бұрын
The "command and conquer"-version comes with a very great musical theme
@Matt_JJz
@Matt_JJz 10 күн бұрын
I recently saw a Boxer CRV on display at Gallipoli Barracks and it is huge. Like it is even larger than our M1A1 Abrams tanks. Really scary and impressive that thing is.
@itsnotagsr
@itsnotagsr 9 күн бұрын
Shame this video didn’t show it next to the ASLAV, which is already a tall vehicle. In our flat largely desert country, it’s going to stand out like dogs ⚽️⚽️
@h.c5750
@h.c5750 7 күн бұрын
​@itsnotagsr a very big needle in a giant haystack, good luck actually finding the boxers in the millions of square kilometres of bush
@donovanteale6502
@donovanteale6502 5 күн бұрын
@@h.c5750 who needs luck when you have drones
@CASA-dy4vs
@CASA-dy4vs 3 күн бұрын
@@donovanteale6502drones that can easily be intercepted on launch*
@Internetbutthurt
@Internetbutthurt 2 күн бұрын
@@h.c5750 you clearly dont know how good sensors are these days
@paulwatson6013
@paulwatson6013 9 күн бұрын
As someone who has done time in workshops within the 'system', one of the biggest issues is keeping up with the parts. From 1st hand experience out on exercise. Watching wheeled vehicles like this were being driven like they were tracked vehicles through sharp remnants of shrubs. Lots of axles being chained up for the drive back as they ran out of tyres. 38 tonnnes-hell the Leopard tanks were only around 40, and they are a tracked vehicle with seven 'road wheels.'
@bagelmaster2498
@bagelmaster2498 7 күн бұрын
Tbf leopards weigh a whole lot more now as well
@PaulieLDP
@PaulieLDP 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for another video on Aussie military hardware.
@TopShelfOzzie
@TopShelfOzzie Күн бұрын
Very well put together & easy to understand thanks mate have subscribed
@reeceagland1980
@reeceagland1980 11 күн бұрын
One of the few times we made the right choice. Now we need to consider new variants like mortar, AA/C-AUS,
@Warhorse469
@Warhorse469 12 күн бұрын
Transported are numbers of these beasts through the Fraser Coast to Gympie from Brisbane. You don't realize how large these things are until you stand beside them; they're taller than Abrams and a tad bit shorter in length.
@thomasromanelli2561
@thomasromanelli2561 12 күн бұрын
Very excited to see content regarding the Redback IFV.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 12 күн бұрын
Boxer is a superb asset, and the new Brisbane factory is a significant contributor to Australian defense manufacturing capability.
@CASA-dy4vs
@CASA-dy4vs 3 күн бұрын
Now we just need a better navy to actually stop any enemies from landing millions of troops and thousands upon thousands of tanks
@GM-fh5jp
@GM-fh5jp 10 күн бұрын
Interesting commentary and analysis, Mel. Subscribed!
@CeinOG
@CeinOG 7 күн бұрын
Subscribed. Good informative, easy to follow video
@The_Stoic_PhilosopherSH
@The_Stoic_PhilosopherSH 12 күн бұрын
Fantastic channel! Subbed
@WoolyJumper5
@WoolyJumper5 12 күн бұрын
Thanks mate 🎉
@KF-bj3ce
@KF-bj3ce 2 күн бұрын
Happy that these vehicles are made in Australia and I would love to have one.
@baronblahblah2396
@baronblahblah2396 2 күн бұрын
The Unveiling of the Boxer CRV was 12/12/2002 and the Announcement of the. first 25 vehicles was in October 2022! That’s 2 years ago! Thanks for the Update Mate!
@greybuckleton
@greybuckleton 3 күн бұрын
Whilst 25m per vehicle seems too expensive, the fact it has come with the infrastructure and tech transfer to enable domestic construction seems to make this worthwhile. Hopefully over in NZ we can get a budget together to order some off you!
@kahmusicaustralia
@kahmusicaustralia 12 күн бұрын
Wow Mel, thanks for your insights. Being an ex RAAFie your knowledge is great and you convey it well. I was unaware of the Boxer series but it sounds like the various military manufacturers are putting a lot into Australia. I was involved in a few projects and know that testing of these “new” systems can get very intricate. I subscribed and liked and am looking forward to more offerings from you. Keep up the great work.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words @kahmusicaustralia ! Appreciate it.
@markryan8344
@markryan8344 12 күн бұрын
My father was conscripted into the British army post WW2. He saw active service as a 19 year old in 1948 in the Middle East and was a gunner in a tank brigade. I am proud of my father and I like your content.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 12 күн бұрын
Thanks Mark and appreciate your fathers contribution
@johnwoodall3791
@johnwoodall3791 6 күн бұрын
These are Truly Remarkable all Terrain Vehicles, A long time coming for the Army. Some great variants & I really like the Interchangeable Modules. Nice Video Sir ... Really Well Explained ... Respectfully ...
@adriang6259
@adriang6259 10 күн бұрын
Love that they're built down here. Just be nice to have more.
@gaius_enceladus
@gaius_enceladus 2 күн бұрын
NZer here. Looks like a great bit of kit, especially alongside the upcoming Redback vehicle too! *Go you good things!*
@peterdmatthews7427
@peterdmatthews7427 11 күн бұрын
Excellent 👌 Worth every cent.
@glennllewellyn7369
@glennllewellyn7369 9 күн бұрын
Yeah nah.
@-2u2
@-2u2 7 күн бұрын
Glad to see the Aussies finally made up their mind. They definitely made the right decision.
@jamesr8473
@jamesr8473 5 күн бұрын
Only took a bit longer to make the decision than …. the entirety of WW2
@littlehills739
@littlehills739 12 күн бұрын
i volunteer to test this as my daily driver
@mikerowe402
@mikerowe402 12 күн бұрын
Great narrative, thanks for putting this together. Touch wood some of the fit outs you mention have some sort of anti drone capability based on what we have seen recently.
@zigorro3478
@zigorro3478 Күн бұрын
Thats what the iron fist is supposed to help with
@RARDingo
@RARDingo 12 күн бұрын
Awesome that we are exporting to Germany. Glad to see Australia leading the way in many respects as far as incorporating new technologies successfully into our military lineups. Wedgetail, Boxer & Redback to name a few. Much better than the Rovers & M113s of my day.
@g3roingrimm79
@g3roingrimm79 12 күн бұрын
:D Greets from Germany Rheinmetall is our company and we need hundreads of vehicels in a short time so we let produce in other states as well. Today the media reportet that we order 103 new Leoprad 2 a8 MBT´s in total 120new ones.. Last week a order for 150 new Boxer with a diffrent turret the same as on the Puma and 2 frigattes in total 6 new :D Today also a contract for artillerry shells for 8.1 billion for rheinmetall from our governent. Long Range Ballistics from Israel Arrow 3. F35 Jets from USA. Then we need like 1000+ Troop carrier in the near future, looks like they choose a Patria we will see... And much more coming :D
@VillaMasterSF
@VillaMasterSF 12 күн бұрын
wtf u talking about the Boxer is produced in germany, an is an joint venture of the british and german military complex.
@g3roingrimm79
@g3roingrimm79 12 күн бұрын
@@VillaMasterSF The Australians choosed the Boxer for there troops and Rheinmetall produces there together with australian companys too. So the german governant decided to produce a bach over there for the german troops and import them
@flummi6966
@flummi6966 12 күн бұрын
@@VillaMasterSF Boxer is produced in vareity of states, and OZ 8 by 8 seem to be top notch, so we order some.
@Ascaron1337
@Ascaron1337 12 күн бұрын
​​@VillaMasterSF Mate.. there is more than one Boxer factory around the world. The German one is occupied with work, so the Australian facility produces all of our "Schwere Waffenträger" for our medium heavy forces. Plus since they are practically the same as the Australian variant, it makes even more sense. The whole production force is already hired and trained, the parts are already known and on site. This info is just 1 Google search away, btw.
@paulywalnutz5855
@paulywalnutz5855 4 күн бұрын
imagine a $1000 fpv drone melting a 25 million dollar boxer vehicle
@nathanabsolom2199
@nathanabsolom2199 10 күн бұрын
Iv seen that redbank facility from the out side and it looks awesome
@Crimethoughtfull
@Crimethoughtfull 10 күн бұрын
The modularity is AMAZING! One platform that can do a dozen things as needed w/o having to build 3,000 of them just b/c once they're built they can't be changed. Also, in 20 years when tech has advanced, the SAME basic "cab and chassis" can keep doing the job with newly re-designed modules dropped on its deck.
@scottsmith1742
@scottsmith1742 8 күн бұрын
Agree with so many comments below from current and former members. This is a must in Australia. We have seen in the latest conflicts the ability to dominate / defend the front positions has come down to a quick response from these kinds of vehicles. These seem to be balanced well between firepower and protection. I would really like to see more defence units become mobile and these are the weapons to make it work
@vintagetintrader1062
@vintagetintrader1062 7 күн бұрын
Making something with modular components just makes sense, from war to domestic flood and fire recovery, for a country with vastly difference terrain. As others have said, finally a worthwhile military purchase that is future proof.
@sabour34
@sabour34 2 күн бұрын
Definitely a step in the right direction for Australia and its Regional Partners.
@jasonkennedy1670
@jasonkennedy1670 12 күн бұрын
Be interesting to see how they perform compared to the Bushmaster under live fire conditions
@kenreckless2757
@kenreckless2757 12 күн бұрын
Need to get a few Boxers with the Skyranger turret to engage drones.
@TrangleC
@TrangleC 12 күн бұрын
The 30mm gun is the same as the one on the German Puma IFV and the Germans are currently working on a software upgrade that will enable the Puma to engage drones just like a Skyranger AA gun. The only difference is that the Puma isn't equipped with radar, but it can use its multi spectrum optics to scan for and track small aerial targets. So once that software exists, it should be possible to upload it to any platform that uses that 30mm gun, including the Boxer and turn it into a anti drone AA gun. It won't have all the abilities of the radar equipped Skyranger, but it will probably be good enough to defend itself and disembarked troops nearby.
@FlashBFE
@FlashBFE 12 күн бұрын
@@TrangleC The radar isn't the only difference. The skyranger boxer has a revolver cannon that can fire 1200 rpm for the 30mm ammo. The normal belt fed 30mm is way slower with around 200 rpm. Also the maximum elevation is much higher which needs it's space in the skyranger.
@TrangleC
@TrangleC 12 күн бұрын
@@FlashBFE Don't know about the version in the Australian Boxer, but the one in the Puma is not belt fed, but fed by a link-less twin feed ammo cassette. I'm also pretty sure Rheinmetal has been focusing on revolver guns for a long time, even before they bought Oerlikon. I doubt that they would cannibalize their own business by developing 2 different 30mm guns.
@kenreckless2757
@kenreckless2757 11 күн бұрын
@@TrangleC Regardless of the cannon, the key will be the ammo and sensors. Airburst rounds linked to a sensor (radar/ladar/EO/IR whatever) that can effectively engage the small FPV drones up to helos. And then you need enough of this variant that they can provide mobile air defence to a battlegroup.
@hansmeyer7225
@hansmeyer7225 10 күн бұрын
​@@TrangleC The Puma/Boxer IFV and the Skyranger are indeed fielding two different 30 mm canons. One developed originally by Mauser and the other one by Oerlikon.
@cryptopecker7339
@cryptopecker7339 2 күн бұрын
About bloody time! Aussie built for Aussie requirement's and Digger Proof!
@philiplewis8213
@philiplewis8213 12 күн бұрын
The best thing about the Patria is their special mortar system. Seems like a good choice was made.
@LS1Cobra
@LS1Cobra 2 күн бұрын
I saw these being transported on the Bruce Highway a couple of months back. I wondered what they were.
@wimmeraparanormal6581
@wimmeraparanormal6581 12 күн бұрын
Likely that the ASLAV's will remain in service for a number of years to come, especially with various reserve units. The numbers of CRV and IFV's procured are way less than the Army needed. A service life-extension program is already being talked about in Canberra. With the M113's being taken out of service completely, the need for an armed APC capability that the Bushmasters cannot meet is obvious. A cheap stop-gap solution is to retain the ASLAV's.
@IC3XR
@IC3XR 12 күн бұрын
They would be silly not to keep the ASLAVs, they are by no means outdated. Well said.
@forgivemenot1
@forgivemenot1 11 күн бұрын
@@IC3XR The ASLAV’S like the older M113 are indeed outdated and are no longer fit for purpose on the modern battlefield, that said, they are still ok for low intensity battlefields against less technologically sophisticated adversaries or for policing work overseas, however keeping ageing equipment just for that only incentivise our government not to spend money on what we really need for our troops and has been the main problem in vehicle procurement for decades.
@IC3XR
@IC3XR 11 күн бұрын
@@forgivemenot1 uhhh... you really didn't OP's comment, and it shows... That's literally what we're saying: keep the ASLAVs for the Army Reserves, and retire all M113s. (i.e: for low intensity conflicts)
@forgivemenot1
@forgivemenot1 11 күн бұрын
@@IC3XRI was replying to ‘you’ specifically not the OP, if I was replying to the OP I would have @ them. And in that context, I stand by what I said!
@IC3XR
@IC3XR 11 күн бұрын
@@forgivemenot1 then you’ve completely misunderstood my original reply. 👏🏼 I never said they should be kept for high-intensity conflict, and just because they can’t, doesn’t make them ‘outdated’; they still have a use.
@bigred8438
@bigred8438 12 күн бұрын
Red Bank Ipswich aye? Lets hope the river doesn't flood often.
@shengyi1701
@shengyi1701 2 күн бұрын
Sad to see the ASLAV go. Will now need to build that 1:35 Trumpeter kit!
@jayjayspoon8824
@jayjayspoon8824 3 күн бұрын
please tell me we looked into the 105 gun model attachment at 1:16
@mathewthompson6396
@mathewthompson6396 10 күн бұрын
are they worth it, absolutely if the enemy doesn't have any drones. If they have drones they will be turned into scrap in short order.
@neilfrasersmith
@neilfrasersmith 2 күн бұрын
My comment mirrored yours. Unfortunately with the long timelines needed to design and produce a vehicle like this, it would have preceeded the war in Ukraine. I don't know what the solution is, but the next generation of military vehicles will have to have anti drone capabilities.
@sf2372
@sf2372 7 күн бұрын
farking awesome....
@hgf334
@hgf334 11 күн бұрын
Nice combat recon vehicles, unfortunately as we have seen, many armoured combat vehicles are vulnerable to drone attacks, if the conflict in Ukraine is anything to go by. These will need to be accompanied by some very effective anti drone countermeasures, whether that be drone killing lasers or something like the Anduril Industries interceptor drone, putting combat vehicles in the field these days risks losing them to some very cheap tech threats.
@brianphillips7696
@brianphillips7696 7 күн бұрын
Boxers have a good reputation and the ability to build the base vehicle and mate it to a variety of modules is a very flexible way to do things. I think it is a better choice than the Stryker family of vehicles we use here in the US.
@bigjohn697791
@bigjohn697791 12 күн бұрын
Yeah the Brits have put a larger order in for these as well The UK's Boxers will be made in a factory in Wales after the first lot come from Germany (250)
@paulgrima3812
@paulgrima3812 2 күн бұрын
Australia always had the construction abilities in all industries. So it’s great to see it’s become a reality in one field. Construction costs, power etc, are a thorn in Australians industries. But our technology is immense in planning and know how, just getting into production is the sore area But this is great news 🇦🇺🥂🥂🇦🇺
@amerphillips
@amerphillips 9 күн бұрын
Wow awesome indigenous Aussie weapons
@Rusty_Gold85
@Rusty_Gold85 4 күн бұрын
A war is won by who can can Logistically supply the most and quickest turnaround to the front line , then maintain the damaged ones to return quickly to service. The Armament industry needs to ramp up considerably and be self reliant. I think I can sense the Planning Commanders want self reliance and self belief at the front line rather than relying on slower commanding from the rear. Having them as kit builds for separate roles helps the quick supply idea.
@muskett4108
@muskett4108 10 күн бұрын
The UK is also building a Boxer plant and buying/building similar numbers. Armies just need an armoured taxi that can defend itself to transport at speed and over distance the specialised troops and weapons systems that modern warfare demands. The Boxer is the best in class at present. The module system gives it the flexibility to adapt over its lifespan. By all accounts its pretty cool. Ukraine is rewriting tactical doctrine anyhow. Best to invest in stuff that will always find a use.
@billygibson2613
@billygibson2613 12 күн бұрын
Very good policy best defence against terrisom very smart brilliant masters of engineering 😊😮❤😊😮❤
@alphabravo3304
@alphabravo3304 12 күн бұрын
Australia has been promised getting these vehicles for the last 6 years, when will the fleet actually be at unit level? Not only can we not recruit, we can’t get enough uniforms AMCU , let alone AFVs. The problem with the ADF today is, the over use of the APS and contractors, and the slow pace of defence industries in general. Battlefield? What battlefield, high range, shoal water bay, these things will never see dirt overseas manned by Australians, unless it’s via an export to the Ukrainians, with foreign crews.
@donovanteale6502
@donovanteale6502 5 күн бұрын
They are built to fight wars in the days before drones ruled the front lines
@onibformi3590
@onibformi3590 12 күн бұрын
I think Germany ordert these Vehicles in Australia because lack of production capacity in Europe.
@WilhelmEley
@WilhelmEley 12 күн бұрын
The issue is mainly, that due to the Ukraine war all capacities are utilized, they are also being enlarged, which you can't do infinitely fast, so as the European customers want as much as they can as fast as they can, also non-European production sites are used to achieve that.
@hofnaerrchen
@hofnaerrchen 12 күн бұрын
Why build a new facility when you can use one already existing. Australia might be far away from Germany in geographic terms but large companies operate on a global scale these days and Australia is not a as insecure location like, lets say building stuff in China. In the end all countries involved will benefit from this. Especially when you consider that the Bundeswehr will get vehicles that underwent ample testing already. In my opinion this is the way to go. Will save us (Germany) quite a lot of money by buying stuff that is working out of the box.
@WilhelmEley
@WilhelmEley 12 күн бұрын
@@hofnaerrchen Boxer has been in use in Germany for over a decade, many produced, sent to Afghanistan and the Balkans. Testing isn't the issue...
@tonelee8878
@tonelee8878 8 күн бұрын
does anyone know what's happening with the retiring aslavs?
@petermaxine5895
@petermaxine5895 10 күн бұрын
Combat recon in Australia, what is the target that requires observing?
@Doingstuff.since76
@Doingstuff.since76 6 күн бұрын
Totally support the defence industry setting up shop here. There should be much more of this sort of thing. The price the Navy is paying for the cannons on its new boats Armadales? I forget the name but the ships were defenceless before they ordered these cannons which were hundreds of millions for 5. 340 mill I think. For that we could set up a whole industry from scratch. Or almost. I hope we are going to see much more of this sort of thing in future.
@ondoogretchtub
@ondoogretchtub 12 күн бұрын
Great decision to build these two vehicles, definitely the right decision.
@christiansantiago2615
@christiansantiago2615 2 күн бұрын
I saw the turret and immediately said " oh, it's a Puma with wheels"😅
@El_Locoroco
@El_Locoroco 10 күн бұрын
The craziest version is the rc h155...
@bigman23DOTS
@bigman23DOTS 8 күн бұрын
Kinda think I would like to have seen 30 or so artillery pieces ,30 or so anti air pieces and 30 electronic warfare pieces
@philmenzies2477
@philmenzies2477 2 күн бұрын
Im going out on a limb here and predicting the nickname for this will be Thunderbird 2
@andrewcombe8907
@andrewcombe8907 11 күн бұрын
Not sure why they chose the Boxer CRV as recon to replace the ASLAV but the Redback as an IFV/APC to replace the M113AS4. It would have made more sense to have the Boxer as an IFV/APC to have interoperability and single manufacturer.
@neilfrasersmith
@neilfrasersmith 2 күн бұрын
I didn't hear him mention any defence system for drone attack. Isn't that mandatory now?
@nicholaidajuan865
@nicholaidajuan865 8 күн бұрын
Hasn't "talking tactics" been a feature on United 24 for the last few years?
@davejamie5667
@davejamie5667 10 күн бұрын
great chanel mate, well researched, definately looks like a professional production. hope the comment and like help the algorithm for ya
@Tophet1
@Tophet1 12 күн бұрын
It's the infrastructure that wins. That is an awefully large and expensive vehicle.
@davidscott802
@davidscott802 12 күн бұрын
Dude, are you just reading Rheinemetal's press release and platform specs? Maybe in the next video include a little more analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of the platform and background on the motivations for developing the vehicle.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 11 күн бұрын
Hi David, we are a business channel primarily interested in the economics of the defence industry. I’m sure there are people far more qualified than me to delve deeper.
@Twizted86
@Twizted86 7 күн бұрын
I realise this is all about the Rheinmetall Boxer CRV but paired with the Redback IFV I think we made some good choices in the replacements for the ASLAV and M113AS4. I have friends over in the US army that bitch and moan about their aging M2 & M3 Bradley IFV/CFV, constant malfunctions and engine wear. They just revealed the newest M2A4E1 over there and the lads are super hyped to see how long until those new toys start pissing coolant down the motor pool drains too lol. edit: Guess it's just an in-between til the XM30 has a proper prototype out, but still.. it's kind of a 'ain't broke, doesn't need replacing just yet' for them I think.
@bagelmaster2498
@bagelmaster2498 7 күн бұрын
And the funny part is the xm30 also has a rheinmetall entry so there may be a whole lot of German armored vehicles around the globe come 2030
@jacktattis
@jacktattis 9 күн бұрын
Are the bodies Steel or Aluminium? Thanks
@ponz-
@ponz- 3 күн бұрын
Idk how you miss the opportunity every video to say “click subscribe downunda.” Every video 😂
@victoryh67
@victoryh67 3 күн бұрын
Gaijin we need this
@allansivula3669
@allansivula3669 Күн бұрын
Certainly hope they can keep spare parts up to them when they get a bit of wear and time on them just saying
@WeedyFlash
@WeedyFlash 3 күн бұрын
How do they hold up against drone warfare?
@harveybirdman74
@harveybirdman74 13 сағат бұрын
Do they have protection against drone attacks?
@sophdog1678
@sophdog1678 10 күн бұрын
I would argue that this is a perfect example why we must maintain a manufacturing capability in this country. In a war, you really don't want to be reliant on other countries for ALL your bombs and tanks and guns and so forth. At the very least, you need to be able to produce basic munitions and consumables.
@fatal_bull
@fatal_bull 17 сағат бұрын
👏👏👏
@hanswurst6712
@hanswurst6712 10 күн бұрын
As a german i am so happy that Australia has chosen the Boxer. And now Australia is even producing Boxers for the german Bundeswehr (because germayn cant handle the demand). Win-Win for both Germany and Australia :D
@ericyeoman2687
@ericyeoman2687 3 күн бұрын
Thunderbirds are GO!
@superwout
@superwout 12 күн бұрын
Let's hope the Elbit Iron Fist active defence system works properly against drones...
@WilhelmEley
@WilhelmEley 12 күн бұрын
Or Australia just buys the newly developed antiair/antidrone sensors for its boxers, with its 30mm air burst munition, the boxer essentially becomes an anti air asset that way, without loss in other capabilities.
@eddgar-ce3md
@eddgar-ce3md 11 күн бұрын
@@WilhelmEley The Radio Frequency Sensor is certified for the RCT-30 turret , but I don't know if it's certified for the Lance turret yet.
@superwout
@superwout 11 күн бұрын
@@WilhelmEley you need up close sensors for the drones that only get discovered at too short distance for the AHEAD ammo to work
@user-jv5uj3un9k
@user-jv5uj3un9k 6 күн бұрын
The boxer should also have a 105mm cannon varient
@RealHooksy
@RealHooksy 2 күн бұрын
They are pretty much a big Ute. Aussie as bro 😎
@andrewsmall6834
@andrewsmall6834 8 күн бұрын
Please do the Nasams.
@penitent2401
@penitent2401 Күн бұрын
Why only 211 vehicles?
@antonroux6737
@antonroux6737 9 күн бұрын
this reminds me of the old Honda CRV 🥸
@JudgeVandelay
@JudgeVandelay 12 күн бұрын
Which 30mm round will these use? There are several.
@hans_am_ende
@hans_am_ende 12 күн бұрын
30 x 173 NATO The same is in use in the IFVs Puma, Lynx and Ascod.
@bagelmaster2498
@bagelmaster2498 7 күн бұрын
@@hans_am_endeone of the bigger 30mm rounds to my knowledge, it allows stuff like AHEAD to be fired which airburts sub projectiles at a predetermined range.
@schlirf
@schlirf 10 күн бұрын
Don't get me wrong, in any Recon or CAV the commander needs firepower. But the boxer, excellent as it is, is as the narrator put it...Massive. The motto of the US CAV used to be "Sneak Peek and Retreat", then call in the Dam-Dam on the other guys as needed. If the Boxer can handle the environment(s) where it might be deployed all well and good. But small faster vehicles with the same firepower are available all over the planet. Break a Leg, Aussi CAV, and teach the other guys about not messing with your nation!
@haydnw869
@haydnw869 12 күн бұрын
So how does this compare with the Bradley?
@hans_am_ende
@hans_am_ende 12 күн бұрын
It is better to compare the Boxer with the Stryker.
@Anothercommentsection
@Anothercommentsection Күн бұрын
LET GO AUS WOOHOO
@Ryan-lx6oh
@Ryan-lx6oh 12 күн бұрын
More industry of Australian made Boxers or anything defence related is great news! Jobs Jobs Jobs & the ability to stand on our own two feet defensively while increasing our GDP is positive all around.
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