I’ve never been wealthy enough to own anything from Jaguar/ Landrover… which is such a relief looking at this list 😳
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@craigme2583 Жыл бұрын
10 yo jags are very reliable and generally better maintained than other brands
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
@@craigme2583 my mate’s 7 year old diesel XF with 60k on the clock just got scrapped (with full Jag service history) - engine ate itself and Jag basically said “yes, they sometimes do that”
@craigme2583 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru pretty sad.
@jdmguy44 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru 😲what engine was it fitted with?
@jackking5567 Жыл бұрын
I knew a bloke who was with Nissan at Sunderland from the start. He managed the supply systems, in particular the IT side of the supply chain. Being in that role he knew the Nissan systems inside out. He let slip a secret, one which will apply to all manufacturers. He explained that a 100% reliability model could be done but the costs would be high. Instead, they made cars with a known average failure rate and they knew exactly what things were likely to fail. Parts were made that worked but not ones that worked faultlessly. Known weak spots were manufactured in with the full knowledge of the company.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
It keeps the dealerships in business I guess.
@MikeLawtonUK Жыл бұрын
Any decent mechanical systems engineer is aware of the concept of MTBF (mean time between failure). If you know the failure rate of an individual component, then an overall model can be built - the maths gets complex! Any competent supplier of electro/mechanical systems (Inc cars) will have calculated the optimum sweet spot of reliability vs anticipated sales vs time to market. Markets cannot afford systems optimised solely for reliability. Nuclear power plants are a good example.
@ohnoitisnt Жыл бұрын
An open secret - noone builds anything that will last forever. I think the real juicy info would be what components are of limited life ascross different manufacturers
@McNasty214 Жыл бұрын
I was not aware that the 2013 model year golf tsi had an issue with turbo actuator failures and excessive oil consumption until I started having issues with mine. VAG group were probably aware but did not want the expense of issuing a recall. It seems the turbo design on later models were revised as a result.
@dcarbs2979 Жыл бұрын
Don't see how it was much of a secret. It's been known for US-Ford since the 1950's when they invented 'planned obsolescence'. Even in other fields of engineering, this is true: something that is 99% reliable is much more expensive in R&D and manufacturing than something 98% reliable (assuming that 100% is impossible). So they can sell something slightly less reliable for a much cheaper price and higher profit than going all-out for ultimate engineering excellence. It's one of the reasons (old) Rolls Royces were so expensive - they were engineered to be the best possible, and were modestly marketed as 'The best motor car in the world' just 6 years after formation. Today, they are still expensive and well engineered, but a lot of the expense is now on the hand-labour of trimming the interior. Something that even 'cheap' cars did in the 1920's did (there was no such thing as a genuinely cheap car in the 1920s!). RR continued where their cheaper competitors automated more and more of the production process. The new RR has always been at least as expensive as the average house.
@saxongreen78 Жыл бұрын
Geez, don't ya just miss the Morris Minor, MK I Escort and Datsun Cherry!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@alanthomson1227 Жыл бұрын
Have never owned a Ford but would really love two Escorts , a MK 1 Mexico and a MK 2 RS 2000 custom .
@jonford6119 Жыл бұрын
Not in the slightest. Although they were simple and easy to fix, they broke down far more frequently than modern super-complex cars. They were also slow, uncomfortable, noisy and crumpled like a crisp packet in an accident.
@alanthomson1227 Жыл бұрын
@@jonford6119 oh well just shows nostalgia is t what it used to be .
@SloopyDog Жыл бұрын
I miss the simplicity of the cars such as Morris Miner, Morris Marina, and Vauxhall HA vans. You could buy an old car for less than £100 pounds. I could afford to buy several cars a year, do them up and sell them on. I can not afford today's overpriced cars. I run a VW Fox now and I love it.
@FleetAdmiral215 Жыл бұрын
I can never understand people not having their Cars serviced or buying cheap Tyres ? , look after the Car & the Car will look after You, Great Video as always
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@Markcain268 Жыл бұрын
My 23 year old focus is very reliable, no problems for nearly 2 years since i payed £500 for it, though i have used "the car won't start" or "it needs a new part" excuses a few times to avoid ferrying folk about when i can't be bothered lol
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
They’re a lot better than some of the more modern Focus’ to be fair Mark 👍
@Markcain268 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru i don't use it much, but its always ready when i need it
@PatLadsChan99 Жыл бұрын
This excuse is genius. I might try it myself
@gmc9451 Жыл бұрын
Did it come with a small bucket to bale out the leaking boot. There's plenty of vids on KZbin of owners trying to find and fix the leak. Poor build quality is the root cause.
@Markcain268 Жыл бұрын
@@gmc9451 no, it doesn't leak
@kevdavies3445 Жыл бұрын
could all the suspnsion faults be down to our dreadful roads?
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Maybe, yes! and those mountainous speed bumps.
@rich_rich90 Жыл бұрын
Notice how Nissan plummeted off a cliff following the Renault tie up? Funny that 🤔
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@cjmillsnun Жыл бұрын
Yet there are no Renaults on that list.
@diegosilang4823 Жыл бұрын
@@cjmillsnun Because there are more Nissan than Renault on the road? Just look at UK sale chart, Renault hardly made it to top 10.
@iainmclaughlan1557 Жыл бұрын
I have a Nissan Primera registered in September 1999 and it cost me £1,595 15 years ago and is incredibly reliable. Renault use their parts in Nissans and have ruined the brand. As long as you distinguish between pre-Renault and Renault ownership you are fine.
@sambrooks7862 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the average qashqai owner knows that they're actually driving a Renault. Same with volvo, my father in law bought a 2018 V60 and he simply refused to believe that it had a ford engine in it. On the other hand I had a mitsubishi carisma 1.9 diesel with the 1870 Renault engine and it was possibly the best diesel I've ever owned, certainly better than the mondeo tdci I had.
@bob-ye9fr Жыл бұрын
I've been driving for 40 years and up until the last couple of years most of my cars have cost something between two and seven hundred. it's nice to see a car blog in my price bracket
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@petergerritgroen3157 Жыл бұрын
Here the same😂😂
@lint8391 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 1990's I lectured to a group of JLR students. These were guys on the track to become management. They all complained about the quality control in the factories where they worked. It seems that poor quality is so ingrained that they've not fixed it over the years. Makes me wonder if they ever will fix it?
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
I actually doubt they will. The cars keep going up in price and popularity so why bother. The repairs keep the workshops busy I guess.
@iainmclaughlan1557 Жыл бұрын
But there are people like me that will never buy them because reliability is so important to us.
@bobhob35 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for producing a video which is hyper-relevant to me. I'm the guy who commented in your previous videos about only buying second-hand cars and driving lower mileage. It's great that you read your comments and produce content your fanbase finds relevant. Love the channel keep up the good work! 👏
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Thanks James
@bobhob35 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru It's great to see the channel growing.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
@@bobhob35 this video has done really well be it’s been tough going for quite a while. I’ll keep plodding on for now 👍
@clivefrear1784 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure that ‘battery’ - which I assume means it needed replacing - on cars over six years old is necessarily an indication of reliability. They really are a service item, like brake linings and spark plugs….
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@DM-it2ch Жыл бұрын
My brother-in-law is a very wealthy man who loves Range Rovers. He's had about 8 or 10 of them over the last 30 years. He's careful to tell anyone who'll listen, "If you can't afford a brand new one, you certainly can't afford a new one." He rarely keeps them once the all inclusive warranty runs out, or they ned an MOT.
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@chrispritchard4676 Жыл бұрын
Informative video, thank you. My 17 year old Lexus LS430 does not recognize unreliability. It just soldiers on and on, and seems impervious to any design flaws. However, the other cars in our family are not so kind on the wallet !!!
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@nottjohn9418 Жыл бұрын
I've just stumbled on this while scrolling because I've seen your stuff before but thanks for posting a video of "proper" used cars, as in the type that I buy. My 2005 Mondeo is still going but the DMF is rattly and the clutch is high and I've lost nothing in deprecation! Right, I better watch the video now! Thanks again!
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@AndrewKNI Жыл бұрын
Just a thought ...... any chance that as cars age, especially pricey ones, many are not regularly serviced possibly leading to the unreliability scores? High Peak Autos has commented that when cars are expensive to run, like Range Rover, costly servicing may be ignored (until it goes wrong). 🤪
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe, he’s also highlighted some ridiculous bills on them in his channel.
@mmwaashumslowww7167 Жыл бұрын
I have owned many different cars in my lifetime with varying reliability but the best one I have ever owned is my 13 year old Mazda 3. Its never let me down and starts everytime.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@mattwarren69 Жыл бұрын
My 2003 E39 BMW 530i has been a solid soldier for the last 8/9 years of my ownership with nothing major ever gone wrong other than a module of some sort in the auto gearbox needing replacement £400 ish part and labour. Overall other than general servicing , battery, tyres usual wear and tear the gearbox thing to have to fix is not too sad for 9 years of excellent service
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@briancowie9450 Жыл бұрын
2008 Ford Fiesta, bought from garage 18 months old with only 1800 miles on clock. Oil changed every year and m.o.t. advisories fixed. Only wash it when I can't see out the windows, ( two or three times a year.). Now has 90.000 miles on clock and still going strong, fingers crossed. Only normal wear and tear, no big issues. Also have a Vauxhall Meriva from new, regularly serviced, well taken care of, it's my wife's. What a pile of junk that is, recently spent approximately £1500 repairing it. First and last Vauxhall.
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@everythingtechnew7400 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this 👍 I’ve had many vehicles from new the only vehicles I’ve never had an issue or warranty repair were my two VW Passat both 04 & 08 reg’s. I owned them from 2004 to 2011. Other vehicles were Audi A3 diesel, SEATLeon & Golf’s all had issues with the Golf being the absolute worst of any vehicle. I’m also in the half that world that wouldn’t touch an Evoque or any SUV come to that.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@sambrooks7862 Жыл бұрын
In complete contrast possibly the worst car I've ever owned was a 2007 passat dsg 2.0 tdci. It destroyed itself when the oil pump shaft failed, apparently a well known achilles heel on that model.
@TheBlaert Жыл бұрын
In the past 10 years I've bought 2 B5.5 Passat TDi's (a 2002 and a 2005 model) with the 1.9 TDi 130bhp engine. One cost £160 and one cost £250 because they had a lot of niggly faults from poor maintenance over the years and it wasn't economically viable to pay a mechanics fees to fix them. Probably spent £400 on each sorting out various faults. I still drive the £250 one which is an immaculate black Highline with only 130k miles on it. The other one I keep MOT'd incase a family member has a car breakdown and needs a car in a hurry. The newer Passats are nowhere near as reliable as the B5.5
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@sambrooks7862 Жыл бұрын
The 1.9 PD engine is a world apart from the crappy 2 litre that replaced it, you were extremely lucky to find that motor for 250 quid and as you obviously know 130k is nothing for that engine, barely run in. I would love another 1.9 PD but I would rather get the bus than by another 2.0.
@TheBlaert Жыл бұрын
@@sambrooks7862 it was a really good find. Needed a full set of brakes and pipes and a few things like a fuel cooler and engine mounts. Had to spend a week detailing it too but still a very cheap car.
@sambrooks7862 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBlaert nice one, worth doing the work to keep that PD engine on the road.
@MrAarongilbey Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Mini didn't feature in the list. Certain engines are known to have weak timing chains which break or get thrown. Engines coking up and EPS failure are two other issues.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Same here, huge surprise
@Steve-rv1ql Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Not really, N14 engines 2007-2011 were not great, N18 2012-2015 much better, I’ve owned 2 of the forma currently own a R56 2015 JCW. Servicing is key. My current mini has never had problem in 3.5 years, but is maintained correctly. By all accounts the F56 version is even better😅
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
@@Steve-rv1ql 👌I just know 3 people who’ve had epic issues including 2 engine swaps. If your experience has been good the.mmm n great and long may it continue. Clutch change is not exactly cheap either is it 😁
@Steve-rv1ql Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru No it isn’t, I remember the £1700 bill quite well, only had that changed as the crank oil seal was leaking (another common problem…). This was at 65k miles so getting near end of life anyway. All done at main dealer so guaranteed for a year and no problems after fitting. Servicing and oil level checking are vital, you also need to remember that this a BMW underneath, quite expensive new, OEM parts costs don’t reduce when the car is 15 years old and over 100k miles unless you negotiate an older car discount - which can be done. Same car (cooper S) had the common timing chain tensioner problems, whole assembly changed and upgraded, £1400 from memory, BMW paid half as it had full MD service history, after I complained. So yes not the cheapest, or problem free but never been stranded, MD service has been good. I blame Peugeot for the less than great engine, the bmw bits are decent quality. Love my JCW convertible, it has no same size competitor, so will by an F56 version at some point.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@Howie57 Жыл бұрын
80% of range rovers are on the road, the rest made it home.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Good effort Sir
@glennsheppard3320 Жыл бұрын
Surprised that some of bmw diesel models haven't ended up here as well
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Me too, particularly the 2.0d with the unrealistic manufacturer service intervals leading to timing chain issues etc.
@evans66ph Жыл бұрын
3 fiats (2x 500 and 1 xPanda) in the family since 2005 and a great track record. A pair of shocks changed on the Panda - £80 and a few tyres/brakes here and there. Can't fault them . Who said Fix It Again Tony? 😀 Great little city cars
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
👍👍 I bought my wife an old Uno for her very first car, £150 I think. Every time it rained it got a built in foot spa and changing gear was like stirring a bowl of porridge. Good times 😂
@TringmotionCoUk Жыл бұрын
Old motor trade joke - how can you tell a land rover owner has given up? The bonnet is down! My suspicion is a lot of the suspension faults are the bad roads and a lot of the diesel issues are people buying cars unsuitable for their use.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Yes, very probably
@richarddixon6354 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Sorry not been commenting recently, recovering from an eye op, but I have been watching / listening.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
EYE promise not to make any puns, good to SEE you back in the comments. 👍👍👍
@classiccars1994 Жыл бұрын
I've owned two L322 Range Rovers and an L405 all have been good cars. One L322 had 120,000 miles on it when I sold it and my other 158,000 miles, my L405 is now racking up the miles . I have also owned a Jaguar XF again mileage when sold 112,000 , the only things I replaced were one wheel bearing and the battery. The worst cars I've owned have been BMW and in particular Audi, issues where electrical , brake , gearbox/torque convertor, swirl flap issues etc etc
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@leethatsme1988 Жыл бұрын
I always said the quashqai was a bit better with the nissan own petrol engine. Nissan 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6 are very tough engines. I now prefer suzuki they are honnest cars, ever since my first i fell in love with them. I had ignis 2000 which was written off the got a 2001 and had no issues at all. But my most favourite has got to be the liana estate 2004 1.6 petrol. I have abused this car to death and it has never ever let me. After my 2nd ignis was written off i needed a bigger car also and my uncle knows a scrap yard i can buy scrap cars from. Well i initialy went to view a 2006 focus but it sounded like rubbish when i noticed the liana, it caught my eye. He didnt want to sell it as they are rare in scrap yards but i talked him in to selling it me it. I got it for £230, failed m.o.t with fair few fails. Turns out all fails were linked to one problem. A broken bolt in the exhaust and needed a balljoint. Spent 130 on it including the price of the mot. 7 years on now 184k miles she still runs bang on. I have rescued many other cars with it, serviced every 2 years and all its ever asked me for is a clutch and thermostat. She is a battered a bruised old girl but runs like a swiss watch. Again needed a bigger car so got a scenic mk2 with 53k miles and 1 owner private sale this time. Passed mot no problems, 6 weeks later it started falling to bits. Im putting my old suzu bk on the road soon.
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@Mr80sliveon Жыл бұрын
We have a 2009 peugeot 207 1.6 hdi 16v. Currently on 217,000 miles and ive only had to do a coil spring, oil cooler to stop oil leak, rear wgeel bearings and brake cylinders. Recently brakes all round and its finally getting a clutch ... ive had no turbo issues at all.. and its still on same exhaust. Its on its third egr valve but must admit to they being used egr valves..
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@alien4422 Жыл бұрын
I still wish that I had my peugeot 106. That little runabout was one of the best £600 that I have ever spent.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@mattkinsella9856 Жыл бұрын
My ex had a very high mileage 106 when we met and we said we'd sell it whenever it needed anything major doing to it. That never happened, it just kept on going. I changed oil, brake pads and tyres and it just kept going. If I remember correctly it failed an MOT on a frayed seatbelt strap which was a few quid to swap a secondhand one. Crazy how reliable and bulletproof those cars are/were.
@davidlang3625 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, the golden age of the PSA group when they built simple cars which were reliable, cheap to buy and run and drove well. My wife and I had a couple of Citroen zx's back in the day which fitted that brief perfectly. So much for progress!
@mattkinsella9856 Жыл бұрын
@@davidlang3625 You hit the nail on the head there. So much for progress. I'm looking for a car now and the "newest" cars I'm looking at are nearly 20 years old, just because I'm looking for something reliable and I can work on myself if necessary.
@luvstellauk Жыл бұрын
Bugs me why anyone, let alone half the country would want to drive around in a Range Rover Evoque, nothing shouts "look at me I'm a terrible driver" more than those things.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@DC3Refom Жыл бұрын
or look at me I think im more superior than you and that look where they expect to move from them when its their hazard like your their servant or something
@eccosabanovic15893 ай бұрын
..as much as it may sound weird, im driving 27 years old Range Rover P38...considering its exceptional reputation of wide variety of issues, mine runs just fine with no issues other than usual wear/tear all vehicles have. Stock suspension and no modifications whatsoever...must be one made on wednesday..
@DefinitelyNotAGuru3 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s a keeper 👍👍
@williamfence566 Жыл бұрын
My 8 years and 120,000 mile fault free Honda ownership shows why I'm keeping it and not buying JLR / Nissan / Stellantis.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 2 absolute sh*those Hondas in the past. People often buy them and assume they don’t need to maintain them I think.
@williamfence566 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Prevention is better than cure but a decent starting point helps. Owned many different brands but never kept one car as long as the Honda
@johnnyhollis9977 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, properly and reliably serviced these cars will run for year's. I have had 5 Honda's over many years and the only reason I changed them was because I could. They were all very good reliable runners. Out of all of them, honestly, the only thing I had as an issue was the stereo played up on one of them! Look after them and they will look after you! 😉
@terrylawler9988 Жыл бұрын
Anyone noticed Japanese derived cars don't really figure in this list of bad cars. Nissan once regarded as ultra reliable has suffered now Renault are involved shame really Renault missed out to raise their srandards, instead they appear to have dragged Nissan down. I own a Suzuki Vitara my only complaint is why oh why did they fit such a tiny sunvisor! At least they put the sunglass's holder near the visor so you can easily break out the Foster Grants.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Yes, always good and bad examples and obviously they don’t always suite those looking for nice interiors or an engaging drive but if treated well a Toyota or Honda will usually be more reliable than most of the competitors.
@stuartainsworth3461 Жыл бұрын
And cheapo carpets.
@felixalbion3 ай бұрын
Biggest problems with diesels is often all the emissions crap they are forced to have now. Usually problems with DPF or EGR. I have a 2008 1.9 diesel Skoda Fabia. ( Pre dpf model ) And so far its proving to be very reliable. Only problem so far is minor electrical problems like electric windows.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru3 ай бұрын
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@martinwarner1178 Жыл бұрын
British Leyland cars had a better record! Good video. Every motor engineer I have spoken to, on this subject, tells, never go near Range Rover/ Land Rover. And one, very respected engineer, told of the best car.....pre 2005 VW Sirocco diesel. Peace be unto you.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@easydrive3662 Жыл бұрын
It really does depend on the life a car has had to endure whether its reliable or not, a well looked after car thats not been ragged about will last longer
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@timothygreen4997 Жыл бұрын
Oh the joys of modern era cars.It’s a pity we can’t get survey results for old Volvo 2 series,I owned several of them over a 25+ year period ,all lower priced s/hand and did 100,000’s of miles in them ,maintained them regularly and only failed to get to destination four times in all those miles- and one of them was caused by a stone from a tipper going through the rad on a motorway.we pay a dear price now for all the fancy gadgets and suffer the manufacturers short lifespan build policies now.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
My Dad had a 1978 2 series that he purchased in 1990 with 220k on the clock, he sold it around 10 years later with 340k on the clock having just gone through it's MOT. It needed a new exhaust and a steering rack during his ownership. I saew it driving round locally about 4 years after he sold it!
@Jimages_uk11 ай бұрын
Nice to see that there aren't many electric cars in the list, the Tesla S was their first major production model, so reliability has only got better with other models.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru11 ай бұрын
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@Lamby1010 Жыл бұрын
My Honda jazz is 8 years old , regular service and 4 new tyres that’s all it’s had . Drives like new👍
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@buysellbuysell4699 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2010 Honda Fit (the Jazz is called the Fit in Canada) with over 320,000 kilometers and it was the most reliable car I have ever owned and I drove it hard much of the time.
@kittyhawk9707 Жыл бұрын
yeah that is because "Jazz" driver pootle about at 10.3 mph EVERYWHERE they go .. :)
@Lamby1010 Жыл бұрын
@@kittyhawk9707 better than posing in some big flash car that’s on hp !
@kittyhawk9707 Жыл бұрын
@@Lamby1010 true ..I have a 1.4 08 Astra and i love it ..has cost me nothing major over the years.. don't feel the need to change it at all .. (mind you it is the 3 door sportshatch .. and i always wanted one of those)
@itchyscratch3829 Жыл бұрын
Passat B6, what a let down after the Passat B5 tdi. VAG diesel cars went downhill fast after 2005, ruining their reputation in one fell swoop. The introduction of DPFs and cost-cutting on engine internals killed reliability. I have 2004 Audi A4 with the Passat B5 1.9 pd tdi engine and it's still going great at 267,000 miles. No good in a LEZ though, but I'm in a rural place.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
The 1.9 PD being replaced by the 2.0 was a sad day.
@beastman.330 Жыл бұрын
You are spot on ,got a 2.0tdi vw tdi with DPF, engine light and glow plug light. 1.9 tdi bored to 2.0 with a 16v head would have been the best way ,instead of making a new engine.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
@@beastman.330 100%
@courtney-rw8ch4 ай бұрын
I have a 1998 Buick and it will last longer than any of the cars on this list for sure. I even put a transmission worth more than the car itself into it. 138,000 miles on it now. She will go another 138,000 no problem. And by no problem, I mean, have to do the tensioner pulley again probably, the alternator for sure, probably the water pump too…😂 but it’s relatively cheap parts and I can do that stuff
@DefinitelyNotAGuru4 ай бұрын
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@barryrathbone Жыл бұрын
I had a Citroen with the automated manual and yes it was dreadful even when new! Surprised no FIAT in that list
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Those old automated manuals felt like they were trying to kill you!
@mikeball5883 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see no Skoda’s in the lineup
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@rayeverett8501 Жыл бұрын
Peugeot/Citroen and Renault electrical faults. My 307 had 7 indicator stalks (com2000) in twelve months. My 307 SW was in repair more than i drove it. Even a complete rewire couldnt fix it. Ive driven Honda for the past 15 years and had zero issues… touch wood 😂
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@rudfil Жыл бұрын
My Canadian 2006 Ford Focus (w/247k) hatch with an automatic transmission btw, has been basically trouble free even in our harsh winters with temp. from -10F.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
The Powershift autos here are a nightmare (I think yours maybe has a different trans)
@SpecialReserve Жыл бұрын
Cars will cost you always. Mine I've had from new, serviced fully on time by main dealer. Cost me on consumables £750 for new disc and pads (not warned of pads being low, that caused the disc issue). New alarm siren £450, this was such an irritating issue, as there was no way to disarm it, without leaving the car unlocked with the bonnet open. If you own a Volvo over 5 years old, get the siren changed as the battery will go in it.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@carolinetv5112 Жыл бұрын
I've until recently had a 2005 s type jag sold due to London ULEZ. Plus a 2005 Landrover freelander commercial owned from new. This will reluctantly also have to go due to ULEZ,Little trouble with either.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Such a shame eh!
@altvamp Жыл бұрын
Glad I don't buy the expensive status symbol cars, I've always known they are more unreliable. I had a Nissan Micra which had two issues, one was the throttle body needed replacing and the other was the fan speed control resistor. I also had an Astra where the water pump failed which was quite a common fault, I have stuck to Honda since with no issues other than the odd recall
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@coolbreez7735 ай бұрын
So relieved I still drive an old 'dumb car' with no electrics!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru5 ай бұрын
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@bmpowellicio Жыл бұрын
Heavy and complex Land Rover products are inevitably costly, but they drive fantastically well which is why people buy them again and again.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Great cars if you have the budget to keep them running and properly maintained. Really should be more reliable though.
@jdmguy44 Жыл бұрын
There are many cars that drive fantastically well though but don't have the quality and reliability issues that JLR have.
@matthewwebber2225 Жыл бұрын
One wonders why JLR seems content on producing vehicles that are substandard in their reliability. But then, folk keep buying them so I suppose I have answered my own question! Wonders never cease!
@bmpowellicio Жыл бұрын
@@jdmguy44 I cannot think of any.
@bmpowellicio Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Most of the people who assure me that Range Rovers are unreliable have never sat in one let alone driven one.
@mauriceslaney1136 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim 😊
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir
@slickkorth6877 Жыл бұрын
Wow I never knew this. Nice one for the news dude. What are your thoughts about Ford Rangers? I'm thinking about getting one for All round mainly for high use on the countryside roads mainly and heavy loads?
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
I like them, just make sure the payload is sufficient for your needs 👍
@slickkorth6877 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru right I've got it. Nice one bro
@robertowen64993 ай бұрын
My 2017 Jaguar XF has been one of the most reliable cars that I have owned in over 50 years of car ownership.We have also owned quite a few Vauxhalls(Cavaliers, Astras ,Carltons Corsas)and all have them have been very cheap to run and maintain.The most unreliable car that I have owned was surprisingly a Mazda 6 . Correct and regular servicing of all vehicles pays dividends.😂
@DefinitelyNotAGuru3 ай бұрын
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@Mind-your-own-beeswax Жыл бұрын
My 2011 Passat diesel is still going strong on 211k so that one surprised me.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Nice
@chriswebb4162 Жыл бұрын
The two worst cars I drove as company supplied vehicles were the Morris 1700 Ital estste and the Peugot 306 estate. Unreliable, uncomfortable and downright ugly.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@kevinjackson7340 Жыл бұрын
It`s usually Range Rover 1st. Most expensive, unreliable piece of crap on the road.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Maybe 😬👍
@groundhoglife Жыл бұрын
I’ve had three Suzuki swifts over the past ten years and the gear box failed on two, the third one had a major issue with the brakes. I know I’m a glutton for punishment buying three 🙈😆 . I now have a 19 plate VW polo TSI and it’s been faultless so far. I’m looking at a Volvo for my next car but I need to do some research first.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
You see, luck is a factor even when you follow "the rules"
@Sleepywhispers79 Жыл бұрын
My 2010 Chevrolet Cruze is very reliable just the normal wear and tear and I've had it 5 years and serviced every year
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@Finglesham Жыл бұрын
No KIa cars there. I have a 13 year old Piccanto that just does not go wrong. It had a 7 year warranty and during that time I had one fix. brake light switch. Kept teh car off the road for 15 minutes, once he had in in stock. I have since replaced it again from Ebay for buttons . easy to fix and economical . No air con nor silly features so suits me. I also have a 18 year old Mondeo estate Duratec 2L petrol. Great car being super reliable. Some people are ripped off for their bling cars.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@alanstonelake2673 Жыл бұрын
Got a vw touran 2009 2.0 tdi. Lovely car. A bit fugly but very comfortable and fairly reliable but sunroof opens and closes by itself. A small piece of the impeller has snapped off the turbo and we had a small leak which i cured. Be interesting to see how it matches up to my many Japanese cars ive owned prior to this.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@steve00alt70 Жыл бұрын
My 2005 golf diesel has 164k miles and no warning lights on the dashboard its still going strong.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
👍 2.0 or 1.9?
@CarwynAndrews Жыл бұрын
How is the Renault clio not on this list? Everyone I know who owned a clio, including myself had major problems with their electrics. Most of the people I know had 2002 ish generation of the clio and mine was a 2008 model (I don't know the names of the different clio models/generations).
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@bertieschitz-peas429 Жыл бұрын
My Dacia Stepway circa 2014 is based on the Clio, its had some work done on it the four years i've had it but nothing electrical
@jonathanthorpe1653 Жыл бұрын
My 52 Clio had major water leaks from the sunroof. The seats was always wet after a rainy night.
@darrenwallis7630 Жыл бұрын
Not enough Italian cars on this list 😅 who knew they were so reliable 🤣
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Or maybe not enough responses from drivers of Italian cars
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
The people who buy Italian cars rarely respond to surveys, because by the time their cars get to 8+ years old, they're spending so much time fixing them....or walking to places they'd rather be driving to...
@alanthomson1227 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru not many survive to be 6 years old
@sisyphussapprentice8976 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Probably still awaiting a recovery truck when the survey was conducted. 😀😀
@matthewwebber2225 Жыл бұрын
The Fiat 500 and Abarth 595 and perhaps last generation Fiat Panda seems to be the exception to the rule. Those small Fiat's built out of Poland seem to fair surprisingly well.
@oliverlotus Жыл бұрын
Owned my 70k mile Renault Megane RS265 Cup since almost new in 2015. No issues other than a battery replacement in 2020.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@alexlowe30 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jim! ❤
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@reececollison5101 Жыл бұрын
1:35 hit the nail on the head. People who neglect their cars are always the first to moan about how awfully unreliable they are.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@ant6695 Жыл бұрын
I just have to say, I'll stick with my twenty three year old K11 Nissan Micra 😂, in the 11 years I've owned it, it has never once broken down or not started. The times I've driven passed these so-called "prestigious" cars broken down at the side of the road, particularly in winter, always makes me chuckle.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@kwc1138 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much as expected. Lots of VW/Audi, Mercedes and Land/Range Rovers. Everyone I've known with a VW or Audi have suffered large garage bills. Mercedes engines are poor .. mine suffered massive oil leaks at 90K .. told by garage this is very common with larger Mercedes engines and oil seals. However, £1600 later with all new oil seals, I think it now might be good for another 90K.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
I've only ever had new German cars and they've all been amazing but know of issues with some of the older stuff, particularly diesels.
@tonyhull5539 Жыл бұрын
I have a disco 2, 04 reg, never had a breakdown, or let me down apart from it needing airbags, why you as me ? That is because I service it regularly. A lot of people buy these and try to run them on a budget as they have no extra cash after purchase, so they skip on servicing. Once that happens you can expect problems, just like you would get with any other you do the same with. Moral. Look after them, simple really.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
👍 there’s so much bent service history flying around too that people can sometimes buy a car in good faith without any knowledge that it’s been abused in the past.
@NorthernsoulBoy63 Жыл бұрын
Have a 2015 xe love it its great on fuel and fast . Only issue was i couldn't get car open one morning but used key and started itcof fob on left side of dash at alback of steering column.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@DC3Refom Жыл бұрын
my first car , i passed 2 year ago took a year and half to find something that is nog a shitbox or high on insurance 2004 Toyota corolla T3 3dr hatchback 1.6 vvti auto( has the allows , side skirts slightly tinted windows like the T sport( dyspaxia motorskill co ordibation etc auto only licence ) 110bhp 80,000 miles paid £2500 , at time dealers were asking the same money for a base model 2001 yaris with cassete and 120,000 mile and 1.1 litre with the shitty CVT gearbox .This is the better one lot more space ( rare is this auto spec 3dr )havent seen a single one out on tbe road or online , had it 5 months so good so far touchwood , havent had to top oil off since i bought it and refilled it ., i am ocd so keep it really clean as possible , a nnew trye bought when i got puncture and bulbs replaced 12v bluetooth as adaptor and i can plsy my playlist and play songa ob youtube through the speakers , whixh are pretty good so is tbe cd player i only have 2 dislkes the clown who previously owned who made a small dent in the corner of the roof and i wish it got another 6 mpg i get av 28 modtly round towm still pretty good for an old 4 speed auto , its fun to drive , nothing to distract me big buttons and dials which is must for someone with my handicap ,
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@gmc9451 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see my no-frills Mitsubishi Lancer is not on this list. It's been ultra-reliable from day one.
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@leogeee14 ай бұрын
Looks like I slipped through the cracks with my 2015 Nissan Note (USA). 7 years and still faultless. I guess I'll keep it.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru4 ай бұрын
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@lesklower7281 Жыл бұрын
This list doesn't surprise me what no Hondas Mazdas Suzukis well there was one Lexus but no Toyotas just goes to show the four best nakes of cars you can buy and we did own 2004 Ford Fiesta and it was a pile of crap had a lot of problems and we bought it brand new and our latest car is a Suzuki Beleno GLX 2021 bought brand new and no problems so far and my vehicle is a 1997 Toyota Hilux a couple of issues age related but still worth it do a lot of work myself but no engine or gearbox issues
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@lesklower7281 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru I can't understand why people buy them l guess they don't research them well l didn't realise how good a car was until we bought our Beleno but they did sell well because of they were cheap the Beleno GL was one of the cheapest cars available in Australia when they sold but the two other cheapest cars now available in Australia is the small Chinese built small wanabe MG which is crap and the small crappy Kia Hyundai and Kia are trying so hard to be like Toyota but Toyotas very good reputation for reliability Kia and Hyundai will never get there as for Honda Mazda Suzuki and Toyota buy them not this European British American and South Korean crap and there us another country that did build very good and reliable vehicles that is Australia the Ford Falcon and Holden Comodore there are plenty of them still driving around 10 20 30 year old cars going down the road plus we do not have the rust issues that other countries do in Australia and in N,S.W we have yearly regestration inspections for cars over five years old so it will be interesting to see how all these Chinese South Korean cars go when they go for there first regestration inspection and the LDV are a a Chinese built vehicle and from brand new they are having rust issues my 26 year old Toyota hilux doesn't have rust issues at all never been knocked back on my yearly regestration inspection for rust l have been knocked back for age related issues and no engine issues infact l don't think there any South Korean or Chinese car that has ever done 9800000 kms there are two Toyotas l know of that sold with 9800000 kms on them on a 1997 Hilux and the other a 2002 Toyota Corolla
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
@@lesklower7281 I don’t think the only measure of a car is how long it will run before it’s scrapped. A lot of people want performance or driving experience over pure reliability when push comes to shove. Cars coming out of Korea now are superb by the way. People will always just buy what they want and rand the rough abd the smooth with it. As good a d feliz me as many Japanese cars have been, they’re often a little dull (big generalism I know) which puts many people off.
@lesklower7281 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru l think you should be able to buy a vehicle and the longer you own it with out to much trouble in the case of my 1997 Toyota 2wd aluminum trayed Hilux now l have been watching the market and my Toyota Hilux in its configuration is the most desirable hence they are selling for aud$5000 $6000 $7000 $8000 and one sold for $10000 how much are 1997 Hyundais and Kias are selling for whats the big deal about performance now in N.S.W the fastest you can go us 110kph and the Toyota can do that comfortably so can our Suzuki Beleno GLX and it has a 1.4litre engine and do 50mpg without any problem and may l remind you a 1997 Toyota Hilux sold that had done 980000kms for aud $500 and had no trouble why it us because of the famous 22R motor that is sitting under the bonnet reliable robust last much better than any Horrible Hyundai or Krappy Kia bring me one of these makes that have done say 400000 kms and can sell for say aud $5000
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
@@lesklower7281 stick to what you like mate, who cares what anyone else is into eh? 👍
@kola1003 ай бұрын
Wonder if a lot of “diesel” issues are cheap supermarket fuel ?
@DefinitelyNotAGuru3 ай бұрын
It definitely wouldnt help, if I had a modern diesel I'd run it on super.
@stjohntownsend3019 Жыл бұрын
Surprised that a bmw mini isn’t on there
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@flickthenick Жыл бұрын
Had a 2011 model Mini One, such a bag of trouble and a great investment in my bank account from BMW!
@davidgeorgea13 күн бұрын
I have a 1•2 Ford Fiesta . 2012 Zetec petrol 43miles a gallon. No issues . I have it😂 service and MOT without issues. Can’t fault this little car 🤗
@DefinitelyNotAGuru13 күн бұрын
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@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
And there we go. Land Rover takes the crown yet again. Why do these things become *so* unreliable once they get past 3 to 4 years old? And what's really odd, is that they retain their value massively at 3 years old, often being worth 65% of their new cost. You'd think that their abysmal reliability record would hammer used values...... The used market for old Defenders is scary to those who buy "normal" used cars. There's an older - about 7 to 8 years old I think - Defender long wheelbase station wagon at a Honda dealer near me, and it's got a sticker price of £30k plus.....
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
I guess it’s good business for JLR as it coincides with the warranty expiring
@Markcain268 Жыл бұрын
Land-rover s used to be very reliable, a long time ago though lol
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
@@Markcain268 when they were new 😁
@MJ-uk6lu Жыл бұрын
They are like Apple of lux off-roaders with owners of similar mentality. That's how.
@shaunjones6049 Жыл бұрын
They come out of the factory with the warning lights on. 😔
@cjmillsnun Жыл бұрын
12V battery/battery seems to be a common complaint. I'm sorry but on a car over 5 years old this is normal, lead acid batteries don't last forever. Also brakes, I wonder how many are just it needed pads and discs?
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@jasonking1284 Жыл бұрын
If you want to "discover" a true adventure, buy a Land Rover Discovery...
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@leegorman8322 Жыл бұрын
It's just unforgivable premium cars are dogs, and have been for some time. 🙄
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@petert922411 ай бұрын
All the normal suspects … stick with either Honda or Toyota ., with Lexus making a mention ..Range rover reliable … is like saying a low mileage Prius is kosher
@DefinitelyNotAGuru11 ай бұрын
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@PJ-om2wq Жыл бұрын
Brakes shouldn't count. They are a wear/consumable item.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@sideshowbob5237 Жыл бұрын
No Hondas in that list. What a surprise - not.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@stephenmurray2851 Жыл бұрын
Will you do the most reliable next?
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Yes
@zaneclone Жыл бұрын
I always take reliability survey's with a pinch of salt... much being dependant on how hard one drives a car or if they're serviced regularly and properly... You'll also get many "complaints" from popular cars- as more are sold ! I own an 09 C3 Picasso HDi... most would steer clear of such a thing- yet mine has been 100% reliable- bar a brake light bulb ! That said, what I do take notice of are fairly modern models with electronic faults... which are not generally service dependant and usually expensive to put right. A little surprised the Astra's no 2 (unless it''s the 1.8 !)- though they do get hammered by everyone lol...
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@helenloughton2418 Жыл бұрын
My mate reckons best motor he ever owned a land rover freelander2 it was used hard towing regulary to poland a caravan .my worse car a bmw 520 bag of nails so all manufactures have issues
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@cundycross Жыл бұрын
Nice to see all those "Premium" marques doing so well as usual. Still never understand why people buy them knowing the shockingly unreliable record. As for Nissan, part of Renault/Mercedes now so no real surprise there.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
It’s not a big deal to some John, they either want a more interesting car with a better or more engaging drive and don’t care so much about reliability.
@stuartainsworth3461 Жыл бұрын
Most lease them.
@timtube1663 Жыл бұрын
Dacia Duster surprises me. Dacia has had a fantastic reliability record over the years despite their cheap price.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@problemslayer3538 Жыл бұрын
It's actually reasonably straight forward. Buying a car depends on budget and needs. JLR products, particularly the engines are best avoided. They offer good interiors and comfort but so do other brands with better engines. You buy Japanese if you want reliability whilst sacrificing interior quality. Honda Mazda Toyota Mitsubishi Suzuki all offer reliable petrol engines with satisfactory interiors. You buy German if you want a nice place to sit in. BMW and Mercedes provide quality interiors and their engines can be as reliable as the Japanese if well maintained. Mercedes diesel engines whilst rough will run and run and as some will know the 2.1 variant used in most diesel cars is the same engine that's been pushing the sprinter vans for well over 500k miles and more without major issues. BMW diesels are the most refined bar none and if well maintained will also return well over 200k miles under disciplined maintenence schedules. The Korean brands Hyundai Kia etc fall behind with interiors, cheap nasty plastics dominate the cabin and although the engines will prove reliable other components such as gear boxes, particularly Kia will at some point fail. If you are doing under 10k miles a year then you don't need a diesel unless towing. Sadly in current times we are paying anything towards 2k more for the same car 3 years ago, although this could become the norm although I have seen higher prices begin to fall. Now is not the time to be buying from dealerships. Negotiating a private sale on a good motor will save you a lot of money rather than putting it into a dealerships pocket.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@Casavult Жыл бұрын
Make a "Most reliable older cars" video
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@nickhayes4169 Жыл бұрын
My 2009 Kuga has just blown its turbo, it looks like I'll need a new engine, it really has been a nightmare, njce car & comfortable, looks great but avoid if you can
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Ouch!
@nickhayes4169 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru 😫😫😫
@jagjay8033 Жыл бұрын
you have got to remember these cars are 6+ years old and things ware out its down to maintenance things don't last for ever
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@freddythefrog70 Жыл бұрын
Honda......its the future!! My 2017 hasn't cost a penny so far...touch wood!!
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@Glenn1967ful Жыл бұрын
The previous generation Nissan Micra is in this list, which is no surprise. i had one whose clutch died at 18,000 miles and was a known fault with the car which Nissan knew about and didn't action. After that. it's been Skoda for me and no faults to report.
@Kevin-mx1vi Жыл бұрын
Probably designed for the driving school market, so expected to have the clutch replaced often - driving school cars have to have the clutch replaced every month, whether it's worn out or not.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@matthewwebber2225 Жыл бұрын
Coincided with Nissan sharing parts with Renault (notably electrics).
@Glenn1967ful Жыл бұрын
@@matthewwebber2225 Some of the engines are shared with Renault as well. Latest Nissans seem to be less dependent on Renault, which should help reliability.
@matthewwebber2225 Жыл бұрын
@@Glenn1967ful Absolutely! I had a 2003 Micra and whilst the engine was absolutely fine for the first 60k the keyless ignition system played up after 5 years or so. Glad that Nissan are now free of Renault so hopefully they can go back to building cars that are wholly reliable. The Bluebird springs to mind!
@michaelbamber4887 Жыл бұрын
Look, half of this reliably is bollocks, if the exhaust gets a hole after 8 years or the radio packs up. It has fuck all to do with reliably. It is a vehicle to get from a to b. If the radio breaks, you still get to the shops.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
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@alternativeperception6949 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video
@DefinitelyNotAGuru Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much
@justjacqueline2004 Жыл бұрын
That would be my boss's three month old Range Rover.