Imperium of Man Reaction

Second part of our Double Trouble Thursday where we release two videos in one day features Warhammer 40k. We are checking out some lore from the Templin Institute on what's going on with humans in the grim dark future. Hope you enjoy our Warhammer 40,000 Imperium of Man Reaction. For all our WH 40K vids check out this playlist • Warhammer 40k Reaction...
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[@WexMajor82]

"The emperor is not alive!" Yes, lord inquisitor; this heretic, right here.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😇

[@tonyyul703]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames physically he's a fekking Rotting CORPSE... KILLED by is First born...... Horus! But being the most powerful human Psycher his Spirit being fed by others is Alive.... And can be heard by his Son's.... His Primarchs

[@animusnocturnus7131]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames "Innocence proves nothing."

[@CaptainPilipinas]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames not a lot of KZ, etc other else Lore videos from that channel of templin's Unfortunately. (by the way, try to do that said-KZ video kind of reaction next or something, I do not know?). they have poor versions of Destiny should-be-Lore-focused videos there. etc.

[@Azhan.J777]

@@animusnocturnus7131 damn😂😂

[@chaoswordbearer]

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment " warhammer 40k quote

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😢 we are gonna be disappointed then 🤗

[@KnightofEkron]

This is why Nurgle was right.

[@Mugthraka]

Warhammer 40k might be Dark and Grim, and depressing. But that makes all the Victories, the Heartfelt moments even more enjoyable. It is in the Darkest Nigths, that the Light shines the Brightest. 40k is a fascinating setting to get lost in, where everything is upscaled to 11 and even beyond.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

The first two sentences hit well 😊

[@andrewames247]

The Planet Broke before the Guard! CADIA STANDS!

[@calvinheslop2585]

You guys "oooh look at the cherobs(is that the right spelling for the little angel babies ?) Me:" oh god they don't know they are actually labotamized human babies that now fly around giving people ammo and sprinkle holy water everywhere."

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😧 holy crap! 😂 Nothing is nice in this world

[@nikypercea]

not human babies, man made clones ... they actually come with slots for the future upgrades like wings and such, also they have limited intelligence, akin to dog more than human.

[@feralprocessor9853]

Even before the Emporer of mankind and his imperium of man, the isolated human colonies shunned the technological advancement because of their own AI machines called the "men of Iron" rebelled.

[@mwpretorius7913]

Of all the introductory 40k videos I've seen Bricky's is the best, the first part is just about the emperium of man and the second is all about he other races.(honestly cannot recommend it enough) If I had to choose a faction to live in, it would probably be the Tao. They seem the most morally good, but they are super small in numbers compared to any other faction except maybe the Eldar.

[@troller8680]

Are they good though? I heard that Etherial cast is basically brainwashing others under them.

[@mwpretorius7913]

@@troller8680 Yea I heard something like that too and that they lower the other races's population over time, but compared to the other factions they are the "least evil" I should say.

[@troller8680]

@@mwpretorius7913 yeah but Tau is young, and only at the start of their path. Humankind too have been benelovent and highly advanced, but things have changed. Tau already is race with massive propaganda and brainwashing, plus those who do not accept their Greater Good are slowly removed through sterilisation, so not so perfect. And what they become later if they survive post Kadia shitstorm?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We are still team Ork although the Tao did appeal to us a bit from Luetin09s vid 😊

[@mwpretorius7913]

@@troller8680 Yea i guess it all comes down to what brand of evil you like. When it comes down to it i like the Tau for the mechas and cool suits😂. Ime not a table top player myself just a lore enjoyer.

[@KYZA619]

"Helsreach" is a great starter YT series for new 40k fans. Fan made and based on the book of the same name.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

On our 40k list to check out 🥳

[@cyclone8974]

Well the animation is fan made but the audio is ripped from a Black Library audio book

[@bhurzumii4315]

I'm itching to watch their reaction to Helsreach. I check YT daily for their first episode!

[@Anonymousevilmaster]

40k humanity keeps fighting in large part because, while they are broken in some ways, they are not done. They've survived existential threats multiple times and still survive as a species, and so they keep fighting for the right to exist. I'd like to quote something from the Destiny game series that I feel fits in fairly well with humanity in the 40k universe. It's not an exact quote as I removed some lines to make it fit a bit better. Again, this quote is not from Warhammer 40k, but I think some of it can be used to describe humanity and the existence of hope in the 40k universe. " _I knew a man once. Some claim he was a monster, and I agreed for a very long time. This man, clad in black and misshapen by the weight of his sins, professed to wield hope as a weapon, to offer it as a crutch, a beacon he saw as false promise. "Nothing dies like hope," he'd say. And was right. The loss of hope stings like no other. But he knew something else-a truth he would not share, a truth muddied by his words and deeds and the grim menace of his presence. And that truth?_ _Hope is eternal._ _It may fade. It may get lost in the pain and suffering of existence. But it's always there. Somewhere. Hidden maybe, in plain sight or far from view._ _When you are at your lowest. When hope has faded and you're all alone-in the world, inside your head. When the odds are stacked and despair has taken hold. Remember your fire. It's always there. Once sparked, once the anger-once fear-has lit the fuse, the flame will remain, always-a beacon signaling to eternity that you are here and you will stand, no matter the obstacle. And, in the end, if you so choose, it won't be whispers and shadows that save you-that corruption seeks only to abuse. No-_ _It will be your first loud words, and your enemies' last._ " Each human in the Imperium has a duty; to themselves, to each other and to the Emperor. The duty to never give up. And only in death does duty end. Here's where I got that quote from: www.destinypedia.com/Lore:Letters_from_a_Renegade

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for sharing that quote! 😃 Destiny franchise is one we plan on covering in future 😎

[@KnightofEkron]

I hope the xenos eradicate humanity and put it out of it's misery, for the good of all.

[@johntaylor7029]

Another great KZbinr to watch to learn about 40k is Baldermort, he does self written narratives to help explain lore concepts. Guy has an insanely cool voice, and tells good stories, worth a listen

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟 We plan on checking some of his stuff out

[@Feanor2024]

Yes! Baldermort is the best!

[@SwedetasticGames]

"Why would I care about defending it!?" Because it is that, or all-out extinction. It is that grim.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😱

[@martinkase5842]

To quote Sean Lock (UK comedian). "I'm not a murderer, all my friends are alive."

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@ardentdfender4116]

Know it’s a long time since this vid been out. But the one thing that comes to mind in thinking about some hope. “Helsreach”. That Warhammer 40k full movie had hope. It also had a lot of heart. But it had hope! Hope you all had seen it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We haven’t seen it yet but have heard great things. Currently watching If the Emperor Had a Text to Speech Device 😀

[@Nimbasa180]

"the emperor is not alive!" How.. DARE YOU. Only in death does duty end.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😇😁

[@Tazkar]

Yes the Imperium is not a great place to live. The Emperor had some good goals, he was actually trying to bring about more knowledge and reasoning. He was also trying to get rid of religion, so he'd be rolling in his golden throne knowing that the entire imperium was now worshipping him as a God. Also, you are raised in the Imperium with lines of thinking along this, well unless you become a heretic, "It is better to die for the Emperor than to live for oneself!" But yeah, lots of corruption within the imperium machine. You guys should watch the Total War: Warhammer 3 Cinematics, especially the latest one 'The Dawn of Grand Cathay' Which revealed Cathay for the first time ever(Previously had only been heard about in lore snippets). Though the Total War; Warhammer is based on Warhammer Fantasy and not Warhammer 40k, but both have similarities.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We definitely want to get to the fantasy side. 😅

[@feralprocessor9853]

3:45 There is hope for everyone and every idealogical cause. It's just that it's at war with itself.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Fair enough 🙃

[@nolanncerdan7039]

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for clearing that up 😃

[@Tearithin77]

For warhammer content try checking Baldermorts channel, specifically his power armor lore video as an intro to the man himself then his double entry on Rogal Dorn.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Have heard Baldermort is a great source of info 😃

[@B10kHead]

The Adeptus Mechanicus is like a dog that buried a bone and then forgot about it. Who knows what’s in the deep parts of Mars

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@RobouteGuilliman-M41]

1: Hope is not good. There is no "hope" in the 41st Millennium. People live, because most don't have it in them to just commit suicide. 2: Horus was wronged. 3: The Emperor never ushered in a "golden age", except for himself. He's responsible for more murders than the Earth has a population, and with few exceptions, ALL HUMANS ARE SLAVES. If you die, as a previous video you watched stated: "you will not be missed".

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😢

[@seawurm]

The Greeks thought that hope was a curse from the gods. That is why it was freed from Pandora's box.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍

[@arnepietruszewski9255]

Mars is the home of the adeptus mechanicus and no one even dared to do this to them cause there is always the fear of losing all this juicy equipment.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah seems like imperium would be pretty screwed with the Adeptus mechanicus 😯

[@TheFifthHorseman_]

Those "lion things" are actually creatures native to the ice-world of Fenris. Fenrisian Wolves, as they are known, might quite possibly be mutated descendants of the first human colonists on Fenris.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Interesting 😃 Little Norse mythology there 😁

[@TheFifthHorseman_]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Vikings In Space is a large chunk of Space Wolves' shtick :)

[@sir-reynauld-the-kleptomaniac]

19:30 😂 The fact that a year later her answer would from none other than Gulliman himself: “it is hope that will damn us.” Is hilarious to me.

[@vtr0104]

"I want that demon dude!" Games Workshop, sensing a potential Bloodthirster kit and associated modelling supplies sale: You rang :| ?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🤑

[@watpuvinkulkarntawat9939]

Yes, their is hope. Because Emperor always protect.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😇

[@fufucarlos]

Been waiting for this one for awhile.. every video on their channel is worth watching... the best made lore channel I have found.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Their vids are high quality for sure 😃

[@JarethLP]

I really appreciate how authentic you both are. I can tell from your facial expressions that you can empathize extremely well with what you see. I like that :). I hope my English was understandable : /. Love and Greetings from Germany :)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

dein englisch war sehr gut. Danke schön! Und wir freuen uns, dass dir das Video gefallen hat. Best German we could do with Google translate 🥰🤗🥳

[@crimsonknight7011]

Something that is funny is that we know more about the Galaxy and universe than we do of our own oceans depths

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Hmm, never realized that before 😯

[@crimsonknight7011]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames I think it has to do with how dark it is and the water pressure. Yet we keep finding new species of fish and there are quite a few sunken ships that still have never been found.

[@shagun1074]

You should watch the Brickys every faction explained, its so good at explaining and humorous

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We plan to 😁

[@killerman19880385]

The humans in this universe only see things in two light. Either you think like them or you die a heretic. It's simple and effective to run a galaxy wide empire against uncountable numbers of enemies.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Go with what works 😎🤟

[@talosvalcoran7001]

Blood for the blood god Skulls for the skull throne Let’s the galaxy burn 🔥

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😈

[@wepntech]

Btw the admech red robes, camouflage to the red planet.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍

[@Sternly]

Hope is a good thing. I fully agree with that. There also is some hope and some good individuals trying their best. The problem is that the galaxy is so big and the problems so massive that there is only so much one can do. There is one person who wants to and can change things. One of the Primarchs, the Emperor's sons, is back and is horrified how bad things are and is trying to move things in a positive direction. But even with all his power and influence it's very slow going. The thing I like about warhammer is that the terrible circumstances of the current setting are the product of a history of disasters and the galaxy pushing you back down any time you try to get up. Humanity used to be more optimistic and positive in the distant past of the setting. But then due to multiple large disasters happening relatively close together that civilisation collapsed, leading to several thousand years of hardship until the Emperor showed up and started pulling thing back together. Granted he was very authoritarian and brutal in his own right but he was trying to reunite and rebuild a shattered human diaspora and the imperium as he was building it was a lot better then the current one. Then at exactly the wrong time Horus started that civil war. By the end of it the Imperium was a wounded beast and most of its forward thinking leaders were killed or replaced, much infrastructure and stability was just gone now and even the Emperor was effectively out for the count. Then over time the cautious austerity of the post civil war mentality turned into dogmatic adherence to a certain way as anyone who much have pushed for better just couldn't or wasnt around anymore. Basically the humans are so bad because they have a long history of bad things happen to them and now they just reflect that. It's why I like the Tau when they first showed up. They've been made more dark now but when they were new they were positive, and optimistic and tried making friends with the other races. I liked this because they don't have the thousands of years of bloody noses that made the other races cynical. The Tau have only been doing the space thing for a few hundred years and nothing super bad has happened to them yet, so they have no reason to be nihilistic nightmares. The other races have become bad theough bad experience. Again, I would highly recommend Arbiter Ian's timeline video to get a good idea of the context and influence. As much as I like the templin Institute I've learned from experience it isnt actually the best for people who dont have a half decent knowledge beforehand. Theres a lot of phrases and terms that get thrown around. People I've shown templin Institute videos too have tood me they are hard to follow for that reason. I've seen hundreds to warhammer explained videos and they are have an issue talking about it in simple terms. Arbiter Ian has done the best I've seen so far while also not going on for an hour. I would also recommend his video on the Badab war. The rest of his videos not so much as they are more about the models or very niche topics I see people recommending Bricky but realistically while hes very funny his factions explained videos are way too long and he also gets some stuff wrong / explains some things poorly. Channels I would recommend: Templin Institute: yes I know what I said earlier but they are really good. They just tend to pack a lot into their videos so a lot can go over your head. They tend to capture the epic nature of things well though. 40k Theories (warhammer lore for newcomers): very simple videos that get you up to speed on specific things. Worst thing I can say if that the videos aren't very exciting and are a bit dry. Majorkill: this guy is questionable. He explains things simply and with a lot of personality. One of the most consumable ways to learn the lore. The problem though is that he swears and has an edgy sense of humour. I would understand it because of that you avoid him. Hes not exactly family friendly. However hes a lovely guy who tries to make the lore fun. Some of his jokes though.... oof. Baldermort: the lovable grandpa of 40k. Deep, relaxing voice, good story teller, positive vibes all the time. He also writes his own little stories to give you a flavour of the topic at the beginning of the video. He has a lot of long and short videos so its bot too daunting. Leutin: very good but videos are very long. DO NOT REACT TO ARCH. Please. :'(

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Oh no. What’s wrong with Arch? We’ve had channel recommended more than once 😯

[@Sternly]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Well... theres a few reasons. Probably the biggest reason that matters for your channel is that hes known for his multi part series of hour long videos. I presume you dont want to have to dedicate that much time to one video creator for one of the many fandom properties you cover. The other reasons are that I dont like him much. I dont find his humour any good, I feel his videos are very bloated and drawn out, and the least important thing of all... I dont like his politics. I know! I know! That's dumb and it probably matters very little to you, which is why I didnt bring it up before. You can react to him if you want. I'm just one guy, my stance doesn't outweigh all the people who are asking for him. Ultimately I never understood why he was so popular, especially now when there are have a dozen or so other channels who do what he does better. I think it's more to do that he was one of the first to do warhammer lore on youtube. Look, you can react to him of you must. I just really dont like the guy, as a person or a creator.

[@Brakvash]

The sheer breadth of your wacky wholesomeness is infectious. You continue being you ;)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 Thanks! 😝🥳🤗😁

[@rickr9111]

as I stated before is sad that humanity is in that state and the emperor wanted the imperium to be of “science, equality and logic” he even said in somepoint“some xenos need to be annihilated but not all of them” sadly his sons and the rest did not get the meaning of those words neither. And even worst was Horus was beating him in there battle to the point of the state he was gonna be in but he loved him so much that he dint strike him even when he was about to kill him. Also to the “is hope a good thing or a bad thing in this universe?”….I’d say the more the expection of living in this world you either hope you survive to live another day or accept death!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for helping answer our Hope question 😊

[@rickr9111]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames no prob guys!

[@nightwolf9160]

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment"

[@cliveklg7739]

There are exceptions in humanity that are 'good' or try to be as much as they can without stirring the pot too much. The novels highlight some of them. It also depends where you are in the galaxy too. There are some worlds ruled 'well' or 'fair' compared to others, as long as they keep their tithes and support for the Imperium up. But then again their foundations are still the same oppressive core systems they still serve that could come at anytime and change that.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

So there is some glimmer of hope 🤗

[@Proteus2905]

Always look on the bright side of imperial life. As a human being you're either with the imperium or you're dead. I guess even a enviorment as hellish as the Imperium looks like a large posion candy if all your alternatives are involving to be ripped apart by an alien race. The emperor protects... ;)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Bright sis did imperial life…such a thing exists? 😜🤗

[@Proteus2905]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGamesAye, you may be allowed to keep on living your life... for the emperor of course. ^^

[@AsuraDandy]

14:45 That's not even half of it. The Emperor never wanted religion to ever exist again because he knew how divided it made humanity. He fought to crush religion and band together under science and knowledge. Though now that he's in the golden throne, unable to speak for himself, they created a religion with him as their god emperor. The greatest irony of them all.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Cruel ironic fate 😢

[@Syaniiti]

The god of Hope is a bad guy in 40k, " The intertwining latticework of probability, hope and change is Tzeentch's meat and drink" So yeah, hope's a bad thing.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯

[@dlpheonix]

As for why people fight? They fight for their god the emperor. They fight to survive. They fight for the hope of tomorrow that belongs to humanity. Because all other avenues have been corrupted, conquered, or devoured.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🤗

[@bhurzumii4315]

As a Nurgle fan-boy, the futility of this, all of it, makes me smile. In the end, Grandpappy Nurgle will claim us all.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 love that he is called grandpappy Nurgle

[@slimslamfl]

And then it will be reborn. Gramps has it covered

[@Rando62022]

And this is just Warhammer 40,000. There’s also Warhammer, a fantasy version that’s similar but also rather different.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Which we want to check out as we love fantasy 😃

[@alvarogarcia9862]

Bricky´s video is sure the easiest way to understand a LOT of w40k

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

And we will for sure see it eventually 😅

[@alvarogarcia9862]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames eyy! i love you answer my response!! a big hug from Spain!

[@chaosXP3RT]

I can't believe you guys still haven't watched Bricky's "Every Warhammer 40k Faction Explained". It's funny, entertaining and explains the whole Warhammer 40k universe very well.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Can’t start with the best. Need something to compare it to first 😁😜

[@chaosXP3RT]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Fair enough!

[@FrayedBristles]

The Golden Age was the time the emperor was alive and rekindling the flame of humanity. He didn't proclaim to be a God and actively pushed the ideas of science and reason. Only after he got put into the golden throne did the imperium begin worshipping him. The current imperium is totally not what big E wanted for humanity.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Everything good always gets warped somehow 😢

[@GarlicAvenger]

I love watching new people discover this incredible universe of our extreme, dark future. Only thing i can say now is... Helsreach, by Richard Boylan - reaction when??

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Not sure when but it will happen 😇

[@RealShologar]

About Mars: It is wholly owned by the Adeptus Mechanicus. It has a unique treaty with the emperor from ages past that they are inviolate from the Empire in exchange for their alliance and technological support. Because the Mechanicus is so secretive, mankind only knows what they are told by the mechanicus about the goings on of Mars and that is extremely little. Much like we don't know about top secret military installations, the vast majority of Earth knows nothing about what happens on Mars. About the Imperium: Yes it sucks. It is horribly depressing. But it's horrors are literally nothing compared to the threats and evil from say the forces of Chaos, Orcs, Necrons, Dark Eldar and the Tyranids. It is the very, very LEAST of the bad things facing mankind and the only one fighting tooth and nail to make sure humanity survives to tomorrow. It is a barrier that is trying to guarantee the continuance of the human species the best they can while administrating a government beyond the capacity of human minds to conceive due to it's size. Much of the technological stagnation and ignorance is a result of a part of history not covered in the video you watched, where there was a war between mankind and Artificial Intelligence's of his own creation which is the closest mankind has come to extinction. But there is hope in the Imperium. It is just a different kind of hope than we in 21st century America are used to. Smaller, dimmer but a light is still there. This is NOT the Empire that the Emperor wanted by any stretch of the imagination. His plan was to bring knowledge and plenty to all of mankind, not this crap. But he was shattered and stuck in the Golden Throne and this is what came up from the MEN that were left or came after. If you learn more about the Golden Age of Mankind and what the Emperor's actual plans for mankind was going to be you might be very surprized.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for all the info and helping answer our hope question 😊

[@nadeeml9276]

Im a huge fan of WH40k, mainly the lore, and that's how I came across your videos, love your reactions! Luetin09 makes excellent videos and I was wondering if you guys would be up to doing another reaction of one of his videos. Something 'relatively' short and a general topic - his videos are pretty long and in depth. Anyway, looking forward to more stuff!

[@nadeeml9276]

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[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for sharing the link! We do plan to do some more Luetin09 but we actually have something else planned for next month for 40k 😁

[@nadeeml9276]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Fantastic! Definitely looking forward to it!

[@Fydron]

Worst job ever... sounds about right with a twist that when you die the job doesn't end there as you continue the crap job as a flying skull.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😧

[@Methyll]

Hope may actually be a bad thing because one of the chaos god's represents a heavily corrupted and diluted concept of the universal idea of hope. Also your question of why live, because its canon that in this universe, there is actually something worst after death, if you don't follow the emperor's ideals. And its proven that this after life exist because Demons do travel over from it and invade the galaxy....so its one of those things that not even escape through death will help you either.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Interesting. Had not heard that before. Makes sense if the afterlife is worse why they would fear death 😯

[@Methyll]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yep its more indepth lore essentially Chaos or the Warp is also known as the Sea of Souls where everyone ultimately goes when you die, however because the Warp/afterlife has been corrupted, so heavily by all the emotional backlash of wars that took during Humanities time and before "The War in Heaven" it has essentially destroyed and turn a massive amount of the Warp into the modern day Chaos realm. Now the Imperial worship of the Emperor as a god, is essentially the only hope since this universe's gods runs on belief and emotion, the more people believe in a concept in the real world the more likely it takes form in the Warp. So by believing in the ideas of the Warp humanity is essentially creating or empowering the Emperor's soul in the warp to essentially protect humans souls as they die and pass on safely to the afterlife. And while some may say this is just propaganda by the government, but in this universe there is clear indications of faithful people coming back to live in the forms of angels, Demons are repelled and destroyed with acts of faith to Emperor are all recorded to have happen. So if you want hope there is your hope, of course the core dogma of Emperor is Human superiority and hegemonic conquest or destruction of all non human beings. Another reason why the Emperor wanted to kill or subjugate all aliens is because Chaos and daemons are not empowered by just humans but also other alien life as well, so another reason why his original orders of destroying all aliens is also part of his long war with Chaos. His thesis is by removing worshippers and beliefs of Chaos, they would be weakened and ultimately defeated, but he was betrayed during the civil war with Horus, who was tricked by the Chaos gods.

[@horusrage]

Its not that they don't know about Mars. Mars by the lore of Warhammer 40k has been long since occupied by humanity. The issue is there is alot of missing technology & information. Alot is hidden or forgotten. No force in the 40k universe is the good-guys as we would understand the term. It is all shades of grey. Hell even the Gods of Chaos aren't evil. While the Templin Institute are very skilled their video should be considered a very simple primer on the Imperium of Man.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🙂

[@harpknight5817]

One thing they leave out is that TECHNICALLY by new lore revealed, the Emperor has essentially ascended to godhood against his own will. Because in the universe of 40k, intense faith has the ability to manifest the faith to reality in the warp. The Emperor is the only reason humanity is still going, to the extent the Chaos gods and daemons are straight up horrified of him.

[@Ower8x]

The Templin Institute has many great videos on 40k and I would recommend reacting to all of them, but for me the stand outs would be: The Realm of Ultramar, The Emperor of Mankind, Astra Militarum // Imperial Guard, The Orks, The Necron Dynasties And for an better understanding of the current situation: State of the Galaxy in Warhammer 40,000

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for the video suggestions 😃

[@davidhernando353]

There is much talk about the loss of technology, but humanity has also lost its history in 40K. Humans more or less know the 10,000 year history of the Imperium, hardly anything about the Dark Age of Technology and nothing that came before. So when they talk about Crusades, inquisition, etc ... For them those words mean something totally different, because they don't have the remotest idea of the origin of those words or what they originally represented. It is difficult to learn from history when that too has been lost. The funny thing is that the more details of the 40K lore you get to know, I do not know if you will think that there is more hope or despair or if things get better or worse as the present of that universe progresses. It can be interpreted in both ways, which is part of what makes the lore of W40K interesting.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yes the more we get into the more questions we have 😅

[@Acatarro]

Hope is heresy.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😈😁

[@mehgod1114]

FOR THE GOD-EMPEROR OF MANKIND

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😇

[@kentonjen8475]

The thing about the Emperor is that he's stuck between alive and dead. While his body is decomposing and incapable of movement, his mind and soul are still conscious, trapped in a hell of watching his work--the Imperium--descend into maddening superstition and religious fanaticism, which was what he tried liberating humanity from in the first place.

[@sovietpowersupereme6231]

Even with the heretical phrase "The emperor is not alive" thats why the inquisition is so feared there power is limitless until the emperor is revived Also to point at your point of "we don't know shit about mars" we know more about space then our oceans.

[@YaShetani]

love your videos guys, much love from germany

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🥳🥳🤗🥰😊

[@laszloszombati7966]

The Emperor does not protect.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Heretic! 😂😈

[@karama300video]

You can watch Gothic Armada 2' cutscenes some time.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Sign us up 😁

[@gildtesoro4313]

the Emperor Protect

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😇

[@satsunada]

More fun facts: Oh you want good? How about you join the Tau and fight for "The Greater Good". Just sign right here on the dotted line and you can be Tau, but not real Tau, just the Tau Empire... we need more grain so work harder.. for the Greater Good. We need you to breed more farmers... for the Greater Good. We conscripted your son to be a test range target because the commander wanted to practice live target tracking with his new equipment... for the Greater Good. We didn't mention up front that this was only for the Greater Good of the Tau? Oh you thought we meant the Empire.... oh no no non ono nonononono... we meant the Tau Race. The rest of you are worthless garbage and exist only to clean my weapons... oh hi Commander Farsight... why do you have a whip? We don't use melee weapons. "The Silence Offends... " *cracks the whip*

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😧 No thanks Mr Tau 😂

[@murtaintergalactica2847]

Would recommend watching The orks by the templin institute very informative and entertaining

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Anything Orks we are sold on 😁😈

[@TheXChemicalzx]

I love all you guys' videos keep on the good work! If you want to see some warhammer 40k video's about Orks in battlefleet gothic armada.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Believe that’s on our 40k list to check out 😃

[@Cyricist001]

If a literal daemon came to eat your flesh and torture you and your loved ones for all eternity, I bet you would be very happy with fanatical inquisitors launching crusades against them. Never forget that all other factions are worse for humans.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Orks are at least funny 😂🤗

[@Cyricist001]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Not if you're a human living in that universe.

[@LilFrenchie]

You should know with the warp reflecting the feelings of the material world miracles can happen At their peak eldars (space elves) were so powerful they could believe gods into existence They would all start believe that a god granting amazing ideas to architects existed and that actual god would be born in the warp and do just that So there is a chance that through the absolute zealous faith of trillions upon trillions of humans that the emperor is an all powerful God that the warp birthed an actual God emperor protecting humanity

[@AkiraDatBoy]

While warhammer 40K is practically the definition of hopeless, there is some hope in the primarchs. Not all of them are dead or evil, hell some of them are just deadass asleep and waiting to wake up. Primarch Roboute Guilliman is awake, extremely depressed, but he’s alive and doin stuff in the imperium last I checked but I dunno all the details since I’m a bit behind on the more recent WH40K stuff

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

All we need is a small sliver of hope 😇

[@redfalconsmdx]

Tho war is always inevitable as long as there are power hungry people. Or resource scarcity is a thing. Or the XENOS just pisses you off... *Glares at Stellaris AI*

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🤗

[@tomcummin6801]

I like humans, I really do. I'm a humanitarian. I mean they are great with mustard, they're ok with horseradish or bbq. But they are just superb with mustard. The armour can get stuck between your teef but everyfin haz itz downsidez.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Lmao 😂

[@ianbruce1745]

Warhammer 40k is the only universe where the fans don't want to be in it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We believe it 😧

[@DrNox-wo4pd]

I want

[@ianbruce1745]

@@DrNox-wo4pd mmk

[@Yeeren]

Dark Souls fans would like to have a word with you...

[@ianbruce1745]

@@Yeeren That is also true 🤣🤣 you're correct sir

[@GaldirEonai]

The "best" part about Horus ruining everything is that at the very end, _he realized it._ His patrons finally stopped deceiving him and for one brief moment he saw exactly, in perfect detail, how badly he'd fucked everything up. He didn't take it well :P.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 can imagine that would suck 😛

[@lockretvids]

"We still don't know shit about Mars" To be fair, Mars was also a major battleground during the Horus Heresy. Imagine a gigantic library which has burned down but much of it has been scavenged. Then, not only was the library burnt down *again*, the mechanisms inside are actively trying to murder you (if you're lucky). As for hope, think about it this way: the administratum worker doesn't care if you live or die. Your commisar doesn't care if you live or die. Actually, scratch that, the commisar will shoot you if you're not willing to climb over that trench. But do you know who cares? Your comrade right next to you. Your loved ones back at home. That little girl who just randomly ran up to your unit and hugged your leg, thanking you for your service. You're not in this for yourself. You're not in this for the Imperium. Do you know why you're in this? For them. Because if you fail, who's going to protect them? Are you ready to climb over that trench now, guardsmen?

[@LHKcode13]

Imperial propaganda xD

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

"Feelings? Morales? We want you to fight and die like a little bitch, and that's the way it should be after billion years of existing." - ICOG from Xeelee Sequence, probably.

[@olafcorsson3898]

Yoo Vulkan! We've been looking for you bro

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Great speech 😊

[@Shifty51991]

Well we do know there is a void dragon sealed in the core of it lol....

[@TheDonmayo]

As a Tyranid player I like humans too... as a food resource.

[@mrcactuar8515]

As an Ork player, i like both humans and tyranids... because WAAAGH!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@FloeticsPH]

We hangry

[@tonyyul703]

*FEKKING* ROTTING XENOS

[@justcaino9176]

so....are we like.... tasty? how many hive stars do we get? lolz

[@anubisshadowreaper8808]

Hey guys if you want to learn about all the warhammer factions I recommend watching a youtuber named bricky its a 2 part video and he's hilarious

[@andrewholmes5924]

I was just about to recommend that lol

[@kennethv5250]

ive put links up numerous times. they tell me that theyre going to watch Bricky vids but theyve been telling me that for the last 3 months. so i wouldnt hold my breath. post the links on every vid they do, maybe someday theyll actually do it

[@sunghj11]

@@kennethv5250 From what I've been seeing is that they eventually react to most videos people ask for. There's only so many videos they can go through with the schedule they set out. Just be patient and eventually they'll react to it. I actually prefer them learning the basics before watching Bricky's videos since he glosses over a lot of stuff without explanation.

[@tailssonicteam1604]

Seconded

[@tailssonicteam1604]

@@kennethv5250 bare in mind bricky's videos are 50+ minutes long each so it would take a long time to film and edit the videos. So be patient and eventually they'll upload them

[@terrenal2092]

to quote a space marine librarian "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment." and "There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt."

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Good quotes to get people in line for imperium 😇

[@terrenal2092]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames the first one is a Latin proverb from what I've checked and the second one makes a lot of sense In Warhammer 40k considering every faction is out for themselves

[@Shiftry87]

Was that taken from the Dawn Of War games. The Librarian in Soulstorm says that.

[@terrenal2092]

@@Shiftry87 yep

[@astro6009]

@@Shiftry87 Pretty sure he says it as far back as the original Dawn of War.

[@tailssonicteam1604]

"I like humans" The Emperor approves

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@skebaba918]

Well I hate humans, as they ruined Big E's goals, by becoming religious nutjobs when he wanted to make a SECULAR Empire

[@sovietunion6598]

@@skebaba918 is that heresy I hear

[@JakeBaldwin1]

@@skebaba918 Maybe the emperor should have read "how to parent for dummies."

[@skebaba918]

@@JakeBaldwin1 TBF Big E assumed his kids would be as big brain as he is. It was the first time he did it after all, and he'd gotten used to the mentality of big brain for the tens of thousands of years he's been alive (born in like 8000 BCE, in Anatolia (modern Turkey region)), so it's not like he'd be the biggest knower of how lesser intelligence people behave.

[@ivpiv5933]

"The Emperor is not alive!" That sounds like something chaos would say HERESY!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😇😈

[@-JustHuman-]

"That sounds a lot like heresy, I'll go fill up the flamer..............the Heavy Flamer"

[@Gabor-92]

Exterminatus

[@ssilmath]

"If there's truly no hope, why live?" Spite, pure and simple. One analogy I've heard for the setting is that the Imperium is a man hanging off of a cliff while the other factions stand by and watch. The man could use his energy to hang on tighter and perhaps even save himself, but he's too concerned with giving everybody else the finger to do so. Also, there is certainly hope, and even a god of hope (Tzeentch), and they're evil.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Fair enough 🙃

[@CorenusYT]

The universe as a all seems hopeless, but sparks of hope are shining in some places. Each one with a vision for a final outcome on darkness. Inquisition embodies well the nihilism part of the Imperium. They are depressed by constant horror and course for pure survival at all costs. By they are only a part of the universe. Some forces are fighting for other causes, like the love of family left behind. They are in fact some of the rebellous forces in the Imperium. Not all rebellion are the work of Chaos or Genestealers, but just people sick of any cruel regime, and wish to live their own way. The deep nature of the universe is not friendly to hope, but it can not firmly kill it. Hope is perhaps not enough to save the galaxy, but at least some people. This with love for cheerished ones are enough to keep trying to fix things... Then the Imperium / Chaos / Orks / Necrons / Taus / Aeldari / Drukarhi / Tyranids come(s). They screw everythings up. But still, hope remains...

[@famillebeaulieu-luangkham2923]

"Space Nazis ? How could we EVER make them appear as the good guys ???" Answer : "By comparison" ... The grim dark future of Warhammer 40k seems to portray humans as terrible beings, but this dystopia is sooo hard that every single other faction tries litterally to wipe us all of existence. No democratic regime would be efficient or authoritarian enough to defend Humanity against the terrible things it's facing. Think about Tyranids, devouring everything in their path, leaving only sterile spheres in their way ; think about Ork warbands, multyplying like rabbits and genetically programmed to love war and destruction : they will not stop destroying things untill there's nothing else to destroy ; think about the Chaos Gods, who, in 40K are not just superstitions : these gods DO exist and they have considerable power over any sentient being : no species is immune to their temptations.... And soo many other threats I didn't even mention ! When you think about all this, you come to the horrible conclusion that Humanity has absolutely no choice : if the survival wars that the Imperium fights on all corners of the galaxy were submitted to a vote, if every inhabitant of a planet not directly concerned with these "distant events", or if any person who never truly witnessed the horrors of this Galaxy thought that they are wildly exagerated by government propaganda, or completely fake, and thus would never agree to conscription or war untill their own world is directly threatened (and by then it is faaaar too late !), then there would simply be no Humanity left in this Universe. The thing is : every guardsman/guardswoman fights for their loved ones. Every soldier in the Imperium fights for Humanity because they are brought to the dark reality of this "spitefull Universe" firsthand : they see things that 99,9% of imperial citizen will never see in their lifetime, and they deeply understand the profound meaning of what they are doing, and why. This is why even "simple" guardsmen are heroic in this Universe ; this is why no Starwars stormtrooper would stand a chance against a WH40K guardsman, with or without armour : the Universe that forged the mind and will of any Imperial Guard is faaaar worse than the "light" dictatorship of the Emperor in StarWars. In 40K, an event like Alderaan's destruction is another tuesday morning, before lunchtime. I'll recommend you to read some books in th "Gaunt's Ghosts" series : it focuses around standard guardsmen and it depicts really well their thoughts, mindset etc. And you'll see that everything they do is for Humanity. They are protectors, even when they are as***les ;) And by the way : the original plan of the Emperor was to banish superstition and religious zeal from Humanity, to stave off the Dark Gods, because he knew that they feed on human emotions and fears and that the less you have a religious or superstitious mindset, the less you try to pray to higher powers to obtain what you want in life. In 40K Gods exist, but they are all variations of Satan. After the Horus Heresy (the civil war that brought everything down), the Emperor was considered a God because more and more people came to know that Gods were real, and they were not our friends, so they made their own God, a God who would be on their side. And this is so profoundly human ;)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for all this info and helping answer our questions and reading suggestions 😃 Also it is definitely sad irony Emperor ultimately became that which he wanted to end 😢

[@famillebeaulieu-luangkham2923]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Thanks for your answer ! :) And yes, The 41st millenium is a dark place to be... During the Horus Heresy, many people with a rational mindset aligned with the traitors because they came to criticise the acts of the Emperor as WE would have done it. The thing is : this Universe is irrationnal in so many ways that a rational mind is an easy prey for devious thoughts. "Blessed is the mind too narrow to feel doubt". The Emperor is th most powerfull psyker in the Galaxy, but in WH40K, the future is not unique, it is an endless mesh of interconnected ways, dead-ends and possibilities. As powerfull as He is, He cannot see every single path, even some that might seem "obvious". But one thing He saw was that Humanity could only survive in the long run under the form of a galaxy-wide empire. Any lesser domain would not survive. Another thing He saw was the rising of the Ruinous Powers, which led Him to the foresight that the action window for building this empire was very narrow. Things HAD to go fast and strong, so sacrifices on the scale of genocides were made so that Humanity as a whole would have the slightest chance of survival. The Emperor fights for Humanity, not for humans, important distinction ;) if he fought for humans, Humanity would be long dead by now ! Another thing you should know about the Emperor : He loved Terra (Earth), and after His total victory over all other warring lords and techno-barbarians, He supervised planet-wide reconstruction of the ecosystem. He was resurrecting the great oceans, long evaporated through atomic warfare, rationalised the cities to make them places of knowledge and enlightenment without devouring the surrounding forests and ecosystems He was reviving all over the planet while no other warlord cared about. He wanted to give back to Humanity the golden craddle in which it was born. The Terra of the 41st millenium is a corrupted hive of crawling humans with no resources left whatsoever : every single piece of food is either synthetic or imported from other planets. It is as far away as it could be from the original dream of the Emperor ;) If you want to know more about the Emperor : kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXvdc4yolsaVm8U&index Cheers !! ;)

[@martinmcfuga842]

The thing is the Emperor IS alive, as that is the entire function of the Golden Throne, and his re-awakened son Guiliman spoke with him ,but it is speculated that the Emperor spends most of his psychic will playing the Great Game with Chaos in order to thwart them.

[@aregulargamer1]

That, and keeping a giant warp-rift under the golden throne closed against the infinitely large daemon army trying to tear their way through. If the Emperor dies, Terra becomes a second eye of terror. Just like that. Not good.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Hmm. Interesting 🤔

[@imcallingjapan2178]

So the light of the Astronomican doesn't exist anymore in current fluff?

[@aregulargamer1]

@@imcallingjapan2178 No, it still does. The Emperor projects it. Its just that Terra sits on the entrance to the Emperor's human webway project, which is currently drowning in Daemons. Custodes, Titans, and Sisters of Silence have been fighting them back for 10k years, while the Emperor has held the breach as shut as it could be. If he dies or the throne fails, Terra instantly drowns in daemons and becomes a second eye of terror.

[@Menhtrol]

When you are talking about the ''Great Game'' i dearly hope your talking about Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker 😆

[@GT-dv8gh]

I apologize in advance for the length of this reply. Lol To be *completely* fair, humanity didn't really "choose" its current circumstances. The terribleness of the Imperium makes a lot more sense in context. Humanity *had* its Star Trek-style "Golden Age" (roughly 10k to 20kish), where technology and progress made the human experience a veritable utopia. Unfortunately, it fell apart... *HARD*. First, almost literally every alien race humanity ran into turned out to be (and continue to be) giant dickheads, primarily interested in eating, enslaving, or otherwise wiping us out. After a while, xenophobia kind of became the reflexive norm. Second, the super intelligent computers and armies of robotic warriors that made our golden age possible turned on humanity, causing a war far more destructive than anything in even 40k. This is why 40k humanity tends to be so distrustful of advanced technology, and computers in particular. To be frank, they're not wrong to do so, Artificial Intelligence in the 40k universe is more dangerous than in most SciFi. Not only do the bots often have the classic "destroy all humans" mindset, but they are uniquely vulnerable to corruption and possession by demonic warp entities (due to lacking the natural defenses most living beings possess against demonic influence, I think?). Third, the demonic infestation/pollution in the Warp became progressively more and more dangerous as time went on, and as humanity's own psychic potential grew. In 40k something like the Exorcist would be almost cute. A single psychic, or cult, under demonic influence can easily open a Warp portal capable of flooding entire *planets* with an endless horde of ravening horrors. This is why "heresy" is taken so seriously. As if that weren't bad enough, (thanks to the psychotic culture of the Eldar birthing Slaneesh, a new Chaos God of depravity and excess) the festering in the Warp eventually became so great that it was able to spill into real space without even that pre-condition. This resulted in the tearing open of the "Eye of Terror" (an area of space thousands of lightyears across where Hell literally exists in the real world), and the breaking out of warp storms across the galaxy, making it impossible to travel between different star systems for several thousand years. This was the final nail in the coffin for humanity's Star Trek-style "Golden Age," and brought about the almost complete collapse of human interstellar society. Human space for thousands of years after that was basically an interstellar version of "Mad Max." Most high technology was completely forgotten apart from a few relics being held together with bubble gum and duct tape, and savage warlords and psychic sorcerers in league with the demonic terrorized everyone and everything. Where human tyrants, mutants, and monsters didn't do so, aliens did. Even a lot of the tech that was saved during this period wasn't fully understood (cars or gasoline in Mad Max would be a good comparison here)... Leading to the tech that survived often being worshipped as a god in and of itself, most notably by groups like the Mechanicus on Mars. The Emperor fixed this... Somewhat. To be clear, the Emperor isn't a regular man. He's humanity's immortal guardian; basically a minor Warp god. He was created by the psychic Shamans who ruled humanity in pre-history committing mass ritual suicide to merge all of their souls and powers into one entity, because they *SAW* what was coming, and knew humanity would need a protector. The Emperor has been around ever since, watching and guiding humanity from the shadows. When interstellar society fell, he decided to cut the subtlety and take over outright. First taking Earth, and then spreading outwards from there. Even then, however, it was like putting a puzzle back together... After it had been left to bleach in the sun for a few months, half of it had been set on fire, and with about a third of the pieces missing. You can only really expect so much when trying to bootstrap MadMax style barbarians back into the space age. But still... It was a start, and "Big E" had plans in motion to both kickstart human progress, and curb the power of the Warp in human affairs. Until... Of course, the demonic Chaos Gods in the Warp decided humanity was getting too uppity, demonically possessed the Emperor's favorite general/son, and caused the Horus Heresy. The Emperor won, but was put on permanent life support in the process, which completely derailed his longterm recovery plan for humanity. In his absence, the uplifted MadMax barbarians took over government... Which worked out about as well as can be expected. Especially so given the fact that the Imperium the Emperor built has effectively been under siege, both from within, by demonic influenced heretics and more conventional rebels, and without, by genocidal aliens like the Orks and Tyranids, ever since. Civilization has never really been given the chance to "catch its breath," so to speak, and finish trying to put the proverbial puzzle that was pre-collapse society back together. The best most can hope for now is to simply survive, which is a lot easier banding together than hanging apart, no matter how terrible one's government happens to be. Survive, and pray that the Emperor manages to eventually pull a miracle out of his hat. Which he very well might. Fun fact: Given how the Warp tends to work, all the trillions of people worshipping the Emperor as a god might have very well made him *into* a god, possibly capable of even fighting the Chaos Gods on their own terms. This might have even been his plan all along. Time will tell! The Emperor Protects.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Whoa thanks for all this info and helping answer our big Hope questions 😃🤩

[@GT-dv8gh]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Not a problem!

[@vz4579]

This was an excellent read‼️ incredibly easy to visualize such a complex subject.

[@maxhax367]

@@GT-dv8gh Tiny correction. AI stands for Abominable intelligence not artificial =)

[@0815UserII]

Was the whole Shaman stuff brought up in recent times? I don't remember reading anything that contradicts that part, which could very well be the origin of human Perpetuals in general (Big E isn't the only immortal human around, and apart from not dying from old age or the likes, they basically have a respawn mechanic and return from basically everything physical, I think including being reduced to atoms, though I'd have to reread the specific instances we've seen in the novels). Either way, the newer books revealed quite a lot about big E, and hinted at quite a lot more. Most notably how broken he is by his precognitive powers and how badly it interferes with his plans actually having the intended results. He used to be sort of a leader figure among the Perpetuals (it's heavily implied if not outright stated that a lot of our Mythology is based on him and the other Perpetuals), knew really early on just how dangerous Chaos was and had plans to endure it wouldn't ruin humanity. Unfortunately, he developed a nasty mix of distrust even towards his closest allies and a habit of wanting his cake and eating it too. He'd attack and stop dangerous cults, but instead of destroying their library to ensure their chaos corrupted knowledge wouldn't create the next cult (like everybody around him had agreed to do), he'd sack it for himself, to incorporate it into his plans (thinking he'd be able to use t safely). That obviously caused everyone around him to distrust and finally leave him, forcing him to downgrade his plans. Just as an example, the Great Crusade seems to have been planned early on in one form or another, but initially he wanted the other Perpetuals to lead the armies as his near-equals. Only after most of them left him, he had to resort to the Primarch program (which went horribly wrong too, as we all know). And even then, he didn't tell them the truth about his plans, which was a big contribution towards the Horus Heresy. He declared Horus as the warmaster and returned to Terra to work on the next stage, causing the Primarchs to understandably feel betrayed by him. By the end, even the Loyalist Primarchs like the Khan only stuck around because his bad plan was still better than allowing the by then irredeemably insane traitors to take control.

[@Ryan--G]

Yeah, Bricky's series is probably the easiest (and entertaining) to absorb. Definitely worth checking out if you guys have the time (or willpower) :D

[@The_Lurker]

They're the adeptus ridiculous not the adeptus accuratus

[@Ryan--G]

@@The_Lurker Yeah, I'll let him off with some inaccuracies, there is a lot of stuff to cover. He gets the general idea out there, and it's not a slog to get through.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Time is the more rare currency these days for us. But we will find it eventually. We just don’t want the Bricky vids to be too spread out so figuring out a way to watch em and work then into schedule 😊😇🥳

[@Ryan--G]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Totally understandable! 😊

[@cyclone8974]

He's fine if you like warhammer from a meme perspective.

[@BigM33100]

I think you'd like the Templin Institute's video on The Fall of Cadia, one of the most noteworthy events and a critical story for the Imperium and Chaos.

[@falgarshame8473]

Cadia Stands, you stupid heretic

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will check it out 😃😅

[@H2OHydraulic]

Cadia...? Oh God _(emperor)_ *_starts sobbing uncontrollably_*

[@domtoretto1677]

Now say it with me : The-

[@BigM33100]

@@domtoretto1677 -planet-

[@sunghj11]

There are "paradise" worlds where people live great lives! Also the age when the Emperor was alive was truly great for the humans. They lived better lives than now and were not threatened of extinction as they are now. Now that the Emperor is lost and 1/2 of their forces turned traitor, instead of falling to despair, they made the Emperor into a "god" to bring some hope. In the long run, humanity's hope is for the Emperor to resurrect and save them from the situation they are in right now. People are actively looking for ways to bring him back. The reason why humans seem so extreme is because they need to in order to fight off the horrible aliens and demons that are attacking them. They can't afford to be nice when galaxy eating gods and other terrible entities are present and have set their eyes on humanity. Believe me, there are definitely worse ways to live than what you saw in the video. Souls being tortured by the Chaos gods, Dark Eldar making you a slave for thousands of years while keeping you on the brink of death the entire time, etc. :)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

So this video was actually an optimistic view on the 40k world 😂😈

[@TheKingOfBears.]

Boy oh boy am I happy to see Warhammer.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😁🥳😈

[@kennethv5250]

Brickys factions explained part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnSqfIOInq-jbpY and part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2fNn6aObJyHebc

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Gonna check it out eventually 😇🤗

[@kelvinbill]

"The Emperor is not alive! Is he?" "Sort of." I think she gets it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@RustyARMPIT12]

if youre into watching more of the Templin Institutes Warhammer videos i cant recommend their "Cadia" video enough, you dont need much knowledge of the wider lore to understand it and it is one of the greatest lore moments in the entire setting of 40k. "CADIA STANDS!" "The planet broke before the guard did!"

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Cadia seems to be most recommended vid from them right now 😃

[@ac4th371]

Luetin09 is without question THE BEST Warhammer 40k Lore guy. No one comes close to his level of knowledge and detail and he speaks Clearly too.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We enjoyed our first video from him 😃

[@lalalala666]

You forgot Majorkill, baby =)))

[@steelbear2063]

@@lalalala666 Well first he does not speak clearly, second screw him in general

[@tailssonicteam1604]

@@lalalala666 ahh I see you are a man of culture as well

[@warangelthelight2077]

​@@steelbear2063 facts over meme

[@Knightlight-kw9sh]

Bricky's video on "Every Warhammer faction explained" is great. He's funny and informative

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will check his stuff our for sure 😇🤗

[@pokeczarelf]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames YES!

[@seanwalters1977]

40k is one of those universes where its own fans would never want to live or be a part of it lol

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 we can see why

[@TheOffkilter]

Love the Emperor, for He is the salvation of Mankind Obey His words, for they will lead you into the light of the future Honor His servants for they speak in His voice Tremble before His majesty, for we all walk in His immortal shadow.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Someones been drinking the emperors koolaid 😜😇

[@TheOffkilter]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Heresy! The Emperor only serves the finest of wines and bourbons at his psyker dinner parties! Although they do give you a Ork sized hangover..

[@thelastroman3177]

Please react to Cadia by the Templin Institute!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Added to our 40k list 😎🤟

[@keithbuchanan9282]

Fun reaction. Face expression are appropriate for what 40k is. The Cadia video by the templin institute is excellent. It tells an easy to understand fantastic story of Cadia, which was referenced in this video. Highly recommend you check that out since the overarching faction videos are overwhelming. Also as mentioned everywhere. Bricky…

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Bricky and Cadia both on our list to check out 😃

[@sepehrpooladi4418]

there is a video called the last church by luetin... amazing video to get a picture on the history of universe... its also a small and very facenating story... and his voice is very pleasing xd

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We enjoyed what we’ve seen from Luetin09 so will add this to our 40k list 😁

[@sepehrpooladi4418]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames i checked the video is claled emperor of man part 3 and its a very long video but its choped to 6 or 7 part and first part is called the last priest... great videos bt

[@aennaenn7468]

Yeah no, other fandoms answer the question "if you could live in your chosen fictional universe, would you?" Differently than 40k fans.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@robertbuckey6517]

Since you guys keep bringing up hopelessness in this setting, I highly recommend the Helsreach movie. You can watch it in individual episodes. It actually is very much about hope, the hope of the common man fighting against an alien threat. Even though it is written from an Astartes perspective, hope is very much a theme, along with the main character's struggle with loss of it. It's a very deep story.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for rec. that is one we wanted to check out for sure but didn’t realize it had a little optimism in it 😊

[@starshifter]

Hope = playing Orks. May as well be happy fighting in this grim dark future.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We agree with this statement 😁😈

[@cyberash3000]

orks are insanely happy orks love life, and they love to fight they are the happiest faction

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Which is why we are team Ork 🥳